sarge test

[testing]

when you take the sargeants test , provided you actually pass, do they assign you a new post or can you choose where you want to go? are you able to choose day or night tours or do they pick for you ? do you start from the bottom again and lose all senority you might have already had ?

just how hard is the test, anyone know the percentage of people that take it and pass or fail ?

[scpd 84]

Go to Barnes & Noble; they sell book there that would help you prepare for the test and they have old sample tests in them as well!

[scpd 84]

Go to Barnes & Noble; they sell book there that would help you prepare for the test and they have old sample tests in them as well!

[scpd 84]

Go to Barnes & Noble; they sell book there that would help you prepare for the test and they have old sample tests in them as well!

[sargetest]

Go to Barnes & Noble; they sell book there that would help you prepare for the test and they have old sample tests in them as well!


Thanks, but I really wanted to know what happens after the test, and is it really worth it in the long run.

[scpd 84]

sorry, can't help with the other info.

[testing]

thanks anyway.


any sargeants out there that can answer this for me ?

[GuestBossman]

You don't say what job you are on. I'm assuming you are on Long Island (not NYPD), so:

1) If you make sgt, you will start over in seniority.

2) You will be assigned a precinct and squad based on where the openings are. They MAY ask you for a wish list (if your list number is getting close), but you will almost always go to a different precinct and wil probably go to mids.

Good luck, and it's never too soon to start studying

[testing]

what would you say the percentage of people taking the test passes and fails is?

[Try Learing To Spell]

The first thing you should do is learn to spell the word Sergeant.

[PD2005]

Before you make fun of someone's spelling and or grammer....you should check your own dip $hit.

"learing"

[Alright!]

Wow, since we are grading spelling and "grammar" -

Dipshit is one word! :wink:

Typos are almost understandable, a cop misspelling Sergeant is just hysterical! :lol:

[testing]

I didn't come here to be made fun of for a spelling error. where did I say I was already a PO ? did you stop to think perhaps I might be asking because someone I know is thinking of taking the test ?

Don't get me me started azzzhole, with the lack of maturity that you exhibit I shudder to think that you in fact ARE a PO !

If you are hell bent on pointing out spelling errors , start a new thread for it.................GROW UP !

[testing]

BTW.........Thank you PD2005 :)

[guestbossman]

Anyway.....

The "pass" rate is different from the rate of those actually promoted. Since you still aren't clarifying what job we are speaking about, I'll generalize for Nassau and Suffolk. Almost everyone "passes" (i.e. scores >70). Maybe 2-3% of those taking the test will get promoted (on a good list).

I'm not sure how towns and villages work. I think they make much more use of the 1 in 3 rule...

[Oh That's Funny]

So, now you are asking questions about a civil service promotional examination for your "friend" who is already a Police Officer in a local jurisdiction?

You really think your "friend" needs you to search out information on passing rates, assignments, transfers, seniority, etc.? Wouldn't he find more accurate information at work?

You are either an idiot - or a liar. Won't you tell us which one it is?

[The Mistress]

I know why she's asking. She's the mistress. She's dating a patrol cop. A married patrol cop. She wants the cop to "keep" her, apartment, clothes the whole works. He says, he can't afford to because he's only a patrol cop. He'd have to be sergeant to make the kind of money she's talking about. Besides, he tells her, he likes being a patrol cop - he's in her district and that gives them an opportunity to be together. SOOO that's why she is asking all these questions.

To , OH THATS FUNNY..................I asked about "passing rates" because I know it is a difficult exam and want to find out what my family members chances are as far as promotion goes. I don't want to ask my family member because I don't wish to discourage him with figures. GROW UP.

To THE MISTRESS,

You are a complete azzhole ! First off I don't think my WIFE would appreciate an affair, least of all with a MAN. Nor would the thought of an affair EVER enter my mind, or any other DECENT persons.
Second , sounds to me as if YOU have carried on such an affair with a married cop yourself and got BURNED, DUMPED, THROWN TO THE SIDE, and rightfully so. Anyone with so much "knowledge" of such an affair has usually experienced it first hand, and YOU my dear sound as if you have ! I hope YOU and the married PO you carried on with have received your just desserts , and I hope they were served by the PO's ( hopefully) ex wife !



To GUESTBOSSMAN,

Thank you for your information with regards to passing rates and promotion, 2-3 % doesn't sound very promising. I knew it was competitive, but I had no idea it was THAT competitive.

Stay Safe

[testing]

The previous post was from me, I forgot to insert a username.

For the people on this thread from whom I have received an intelligent response , I am sure they were already aware of this.

This post is for the benefit of the imbeciles that have posted in a manner that reflects their true intellect .

[brrrr]

YAWN

[chatti-patti]

re; the mistress;
dont mind me I'm just obsessed with the sex lives of police.

[Intelligent Answers]

Sounds like guest is the idiot - can't lighten up and enjoy a humorous post huh? Apparently, you have no friend that you can have an "intelligent" conversation with, and you are so distant from your relatives that you can't discuss the issues like two human beings. Instead, you have to go behind their back, to strangers on a website, to find out information, that your "family" already knows. If they are taking the test, they know the stats. If they aren't discussing it with YOU - it's because they don't want YOU to know! As for me, I come to this post to be entertained - like most normal others I know who read this site. You can't believe anything you read without checking it yourself because you have no idea who is posting what or what their agenda is - maybe competitors are TRYING to discourage people from taking the test? As for me, I like to believe the mistress post is closer to the truth than the secret family member sneaking around behind her bloods back to get info the relative doesn't want to discuss with him. THAT would be alot sadder. Boo hoo guest - go back to ly*nbrook.

[Guest BOSS 2]

I can't say for Nassau but in Suffolk the # of people who make out of the # of people who take it is more like 15% on the last few exams. Lowest i can recall was 5% 4 or 5 tests ago. Study hard because someone else is. Maybe a few people got lucky but the large majority just worked hard at it. Ask PTS what they; think if you are a serious contender.

[GuestBossman]

The % that gets made...

Average number promoted: 40ish (discounting the current list, which will go unusually high)

Average number sitting for the test: 1400 (averages 65-70% of PO's and Det's that are eligible).

Divide 40 by 1400 = 0.028 or 2-3%

If 15% were promoted, that means suffolk would be hitting list numbers in the 200's...

[JimJam]

The Dept. is up to almost the 5900 shield number for POs. 1100 shield number for Sgts. So figure of all the POs ever hired, about 1 in 6 has made Sgt. some time during their career. Not bad odds. You have a good shot if you really study. I hear most who made it did at least 5-6 months of 4 of more hours a day. Study like it's your second job. It doesn't guarantee a good score, but the odds are in your favor if you keep studying and taking tests. If 1 in 6 make Sgt. during his career, it's unlikely that 6 in 6 study.

[Guest Boss 2]

Ah, let me clarify. Out of the people who PASS the exam the promotion rate has been, on the prior test and on this exam, most probable, 15%. I'm not basing it on people who sit for the test. This is because the vast majority of people do not study for the exam. Out of the 1400 peoploe who sit for the exam maybe 300 put in some effort to study. If one does not study, the odds are against them to even pass.
My stats professor taught me how #'s can say whatever you want them to say. Maybe 150 people are studying hard enough to get have a chance; maybe 50 will get made. So if we look at it that way the odds are improving already to 33%. Out of the 150 who are studying hard, possible that 50 are first time test takers(almost no one makes it the first time) So that leaves 100 serious possibles with 50 getting made. Could be the odds are better at 50% for the serious studier. It is all in the way it is looked at.
So i made the estimate on passing scores, not the people who have no chance. If you study hard, your chances improve. The hardy one works the luckier they get. CALL PTS it's not too late.

[chatti-patti]

Every cop has a mistress, even female cops. Even cops that are mistresses have mistresses. Thats true, I know because I read it in the enquirer. I only wish someone wanted me...sigh

[as if....]

Like getting some on the side is that easy, please....
Sounds to me like someone is a anti-male, anti-cop, ex-perp that beat up on her daughter!!!

[babaoriley]

One question, Are you a boss's kid ? Or a "Chosen" member
of "Gabriels class".If so , no need to study, just memorize all the ANSWERS from previous tests... :lol:

[Guest Boss 2]

Don't be fooled into believing that the test is fixed and don't believe the people who say some have the answers so it is not worth it.
This reeks of jealously and is the easy way out. By claiming no one can make it by an honest means is just not true. There may have been people in the past who did have advantages over others. But the vast majority of us including myself, made through the way of hard work in study, through memorization and reading ability. Don't be turned off by those who can't; misery LOVES company. The harder one works the luckier they get.
Good Luck to all. PS I'm not selling PTS but I only Know 2 bosses who made not using PTS.

[babaoriley]

Boss 2 FYI ,I too am a boss....and did it the right way.I STUDIED!
and if you're gonna make like none of that happened you are either too new to remember, or have been drinking the kool-aid.

[Guest Boss 2]

Sorry, Babaoriley, Why not go back and read what the post says. The reading on your test must have been easy. It was hard on the tests I had.

The past is history, I'm living in the present. Why discourage anyone from trying to get ahead. Don't misunderstand me, it is not easy to get a good grade, but not to try because some people cheated in the past, does not make sense to me. Baborileys logic escapes me. If it is what you really want it is possible to do. Not easy but possible.

[testing]

Boss,

Thank you for all your responses. My family member has the PTS study guides. I had a look at them, you weren't kidding, I can't get over all the material there is to study !

[testing]

if my family member makes it, there will be one hell of a party thrown !

You should learn how to spell Sergeant first.

when you take the sargeants test , provided you actually pass, do they assign you a new post or can you choose where you want to go? are you able to choose day or night tours or do they pick for you ? do you start from the bottom again and lose all senority you might have already had ?

just how hard is the test, anyone know the percentage of people that take it and pass or fail ?

[babaoriley]

Boss 2 , did you ever hear of the word sarcasm?? Stop taking yourself so seriously. And Grow up!

" The reading on your test must have been easy. It was hard on the tests I had. "

Boss 2 , did you ever hear of the word sarcasm?? Stop taking yourself so seriously. And Grow up!

" The reading on your test must have been easy. It was hard on the tests I had. "


you sound like a twink

[testing]

You should learn how to spell Sergeant first.

when you take the sargeants test , provided you actually pass, do they assign you a new post or can you choose where you want to go? are you able to choose day or night tours or do they pick for you ? do you start from the bottom again and lose all senority you might have already had ?

just how hard is the test, anyone know the percentage of people that take it and pass or fail ?




I don't need to know how to spell it AZZZZZZZZZZZHOLE...........I'm not the one taking the test.

GROW UP ! YOU MUST BE ONE BORED FRUSTRATED MISERABLE SOB !

[Test 1]

Anyone have any idea which Books to read? Which is better Gould or Looseleaf Law? Any other ones?

[StudiousOne]

Sgt Prep Materials:

Get prior PTS sessions for Sgt & for Lt./Capt. PTS offers a basic/Sgt. course and an advanced Lt./Capt. course every year, and you can buy prior courses for 1/2 price. Order PTS course materials for '04 Sgt. & Lt./Capt. courses now - don't just wait for the '05 Sgt. course to come out. Also, ask for prior Cram courses (You will see 15-25 questions on the test right out of the "Points to Remember")

Iannone is a must - but, knowing the broad concepts will not be very helpful for the vague and poorly written test questions. Make sure you also get a copy of the study guide for Iannone's book (available from Davis Publishing)

Manual for Police is a must. Either get to know a State Trooper and ask to borrow his/her copy, or you can purchase one from Looseleaf Law.

If you have the time:

Criminal Investigations by O'Hara (1,000+ pages)
PL, VTL, CPL and FCA - PTS offers "summaries" of each, but the test will usually have 1-3 questions based on law sections not covered in the summaries (you know, the important stuff - like, what is the maximum candlepower for a headlight at low beam? [32])

Just remember, because the promotional exams for Suffolk are usually ridiculous because of poorly written questions and also the trivial pursuit questions, luck becomes a big factor. (Because of this, there are some sergeants - and even some lieutenants - that don't know basic laws of arrest) But, remember that "chance favors those that prepare." Also, because of the ridiculous questions, you can get 10-15 wrong (out of 90 questions) and still get promoted.

Good luck!

[Guest Boss 2]

Excellant advice in the last post. Just wanted to point out he is either kidding or doesn't know about the Troopers Manual. Judging by the well versed post I would venture to say he was kidding. I don't want to see anyone confused. Sorry if this is obvious to everyone BUT:

There are 2 VERY different Manuals and the one the State Troopers use for themselves is not the one the SCPD Promo test is based on.

The "Manual for Police of New York State" is a guide for local Police Departments issued by the State Police. This is the one our Promotional test is based on.

Good Luck, Study hard, the harder you study the luckier you get.

[PTS ?]

I haven't gotten the first one? Did anyone Yet

[New Jack]

Does PTS have a website or phone number? Thx

[A Little late 2 start]

Does PTS have a website or phone number? Thx

www.policetutorialservice.com

[Guest1010]

Sgt Prep Materials:

Get prior PTS sessions for Sgt & for Lt./Capt. PTS offers a basic/Sgt. course and an advanced Lt./Capt. course every year, and you can buy prior courses for 1/2 price. Order PTS course materials for '04 Sgt. & Lt./Capt. courses now - don't just wait for the '05 Sgt. course to come out. Also, ask for prior Cram courses (You will see 15-25 questions on the test right out of the "Points to Remember")

Iannone is a must - but, knowing the broad concepts will not be very helpful for the vague and poorly written test questions. Make sure you also get a copy of the study guide for Iannone's book (available from Davis Publishing)

Manual for Police is a must. Either get to know a State Trooper and ask to borrow his/her copy, or you can purchase one from Looseleaf Law.

If you have the time:

Criminal Investigations by O'Hara (1,000+ pages)
PL, VTL, CPL and FCA - PTS offers "summaries" of each, but the test will usually have 1-3 questions based on law sections not covered in the summaries (you know, the important stuff - like, what is the maximum candlepower for a headlight at low beam? [32])

Just remember, because the promotional exams for Suffolk are usually ridiculous because of poorly written questions and also the trivial pursuit questions, luck becomes a big factor. (Because of this, there are some sergeants - and even some lieutenants - that don't know basic laws of arrest) But, remember that "chance favors those that prepare." Also, because of the ridiculous questions, you can get 10-15 wrong (out of 90 questions) and still get promoted.

Good luck!


Is there any difference between the material for the Sgt course and the Lt/Capt course?

make sure your friend is aware of the surgery that they perform when promoted

[SCINS]

What is up, why no Promotions. Isn't COP's son #1? Why isn't he signing or r they signed?