Time Clocks?

[TimeKeeper]

Will Mango nix the Time Clocks?

[Miss Clock Slip]

Will Mango nix the Time Clocks?


What an absolute waste millions of taxpayer money. How much did Suozzi's buddy receive for this contract? Bet they contributed nicely to the Suozzi's campaign coffers.

[Unregistered 0987098]

Will Mango nix the Time Clocks?

For the best interest of the tax payers, lets hope the time clocks remain, its the only way to keep tabs and control of the employees who come and go as they please

[NYCTA Law]

Time clocks are meaningless as a way to guard against time theft, especially when people work all different hours. Its easy to give someone your pass to clock you in when they come in (without you) and to clock you out when they go out (although you've left hours earlier). People can clock out for a 1 hour lunch, take it at their desk or in the break room, clock back in and THEN go out for 2 hours to workout at the gym. Then there's the old standby - managers and workers spend hours on the phone having personal conversations (or playing on the internet, or hanging out chatting up the coworkers), and THEN clock in on a weekend or after hours claiming they need the OT or comp time because they have so much work to do they couldn't get done during regular hours.

[Unregistered3232]

For the best interest of the tax payers, lets hope the time clocks remain, its the only way to keep tabs and control of the employees who come and go as they please

Wait till they do it at the jail. OT will soar. Right now when you work certain areas and get relieved late you just take it on the chin and go home. Now youll have to report back to the desk to swipe out, theres going to be a ton of late relief OT that now documented by the swipe card must be paid. Then theres a platoon of 140 guys trying to all swipe in right before roll call. That alone will cause backed up line ups and more OT. Yet another County cost saving measure that will end up costing.

[punch-y]

I have seen a huge in crease in accountability since the clocks have been implemented. No one comes in late and nobody leaves early either. If people are clocking in for someone else or just not clocking out the manager should be accountable for their workers.

A time keeping system is about 15 years overdue.

Is it perfect? no!, but Mr. "I want it done today" Suozzi pushed it out before all the bugs were out, and did not have nearly enough County Employees involved (OH YEA....but alot of Consultants who are gone now)

The Taxpayers already spent the $$. Keep the system, eventually everyone will get used to it.

Jail & Police...well they kept them for last, because...you know!

[Unregisteredbla]

I have seen a huge in crease in accountability since the clocks have been implemented. No one comes in late and nobody leaves early either. If people are clocking in for someone else or just not clocking out the manager should be accountable for their workers.

A time keeping system is about 15 years overdue.

Is it perfect? no!, but Mr. "I want it done today" Suozzi pushed it out before all the bugs were out, and did not have nearly enough County Employees involved (OH YEA....but alot of Consultants who are gone now)

The Taxpayers already spent the $$. Keep the system, eventually everyone will get used to it.

Jail & Police...well they kept them for last, because...you know!what do you mean, ya know?? I would love to see 150 people clock in at once. not really possible.

[Just inTime]

The only people who don't like inTime are the ones who were abusing the system before it went live, now they can't get away with their BS anymore. People who show up on time for work and do their job like they are supposed to have no issue with inTime. It's a joke how easy it it to use.

If the Republicans pull inTime out, that would be about the dumbest thing ever.

[Unregistereddfdfs]

You must be the vendor that sold the county InTime.

This software program creates a nightmare in mangement as they can't do their jobs because they're doing the timekeepers job. It is also not really for use with a multi-tiered structure such as exists in many departments.

Once again, the Suozzi administration (or the IT morons) assumed everyone in the county works 9 to 4:45 at a desk with access to a computer. Many workers do not have easy access nor do they work standard hours. It might come as a surprise to the County administration, but some facilities run 24 hours a day.

Cards can be swiped by other people, missed clocks can be filed when "the clock didn't record my time" people are late and don't swipe. Schedules can be "changed" to accomodate lateness in some areas.

The only thing this really accomplished is hundreds of thousands of dollars in licensing fees every year are now lining the pockets of some supporter that probably didn't even donate a tenth of what they got in profit on this software. I doubt that the money that is "saved" by catching people who are late comes even close to what it's costing the county to stop the latecomers.

It would probably be cheaper to cut the loss of the investment than put more money in every year that isn't recouped.

[DoesEverybodyClock?]

For the best interest of the tax payers, lets hope the time clocks remain, its the only way to keep tabs and control of the employees who come and go as they please
How does this system work for those "no-show" jobs?

[Unregistered332]

How does this system work for those "no-show" jobs?

They install the clockin your kitchen

[beeeeeper]

how come i dont get paid for punching in early? and punching out late?
but if im running late or jump the gun............DOCKED!!!!!!

[Unregistered43443]

how come i dont get paid for punching in early? and punching out late?
but if im running late or jump the gun............DOCKED!!!!!!

If your a Union employee you have to grieve it. The employer cant have it both ways

[OT Abuse]

Do all employees clock in and out when they work overtime? Do they just submitt some false statement of hours worked and have it approved? Why have an electronic clock system and just continue to allow OT abuse and corruption? Millions of dollars in theft and corruption.

[Seen it done]

The only people who don't like inTime are the ones who were abusing the system before it went live, now they can't get away with their BS anymore. People who show up on time for work and do their job like they are supposed to have no issue with inTime. It's a joke how easy it it to use.

If the Republicans pull inTime out, that would be about the dumbest thing ever.

Exactly the point. People who do their job - do their job. Whether or not they have time clocks. People who cheat on their time, need to be monitored by a live human being because they can still find ways around the time clocks.

Just because you come in and clock in - doesn't mean you STAY there. Noone is preventing you from leaving and going to the deli for coffee after you clock in, It also doesn't mean that you are working even if you are present in the office. A hard worker might come in 5 minutes late, but get right to work and be more productive than the worker who clocks in on time, then spends the next 2 hours on the cell phone having personal conversations.

Plus the people who really need to account for their time, are the very people who won't be required to clock in and out because of their level of authority, or type of job - like field work or court work. And whooever posted about OT is dead on.

Workers actually DO work late sometimes, without putting in for compensation - or work through their lunch - again without compensation. NOW they can't because they will have to punch out & get paid.

Workers need to be accountable for sure - but its the department head who needs to make them accountable.

That's why its so important to hire a department head who has integrity and a strong work ethic.

I also find it hypocritical that people advocating time clocks, don't themselves punch time clocks in their own jobs. Yet just because someone works for the government, they think everyone should punch a clock.

[clock puncher]

You must be the vendor that sold the county InTime.

Once again, the Suozzi administration (or the IT morons) assumed everyone in the county works 9 to 4:45 at a desk with access to a computer. .

Hold on, don't blame IT for this one, it's a Human Resources Program and IT told Suozzi that it was not ready for prime time....but noooooo.

[Punched Drunk Suozzi]

Hold on, don't blame IT for this one, it's a Human Resources Program and IT told Suozzi that it was not ready for prime time....but noooooo.

But Suozzi really really really needed the campaign contribution from the people who pitched him the idea in the first place and they in turn needed the 9 million dollar contract. It was a WIN WIN for both parties.

[Flex timer]

Best managed place I ever worked was a family run business of about 100 or so employees. People could come in between 8 and 10 in the morning, were expected to work 8 hours and take 1 hour for lunch. So if you dropped the kid off at the bus stop and came straight to work - you got there at 8. You didn't have to kill an hour going back home. Then you could leave at 4. But if there was something you had to do, or you just overslept, you could come in at 10 and leave at 6. People workded the hours that suited them best - and were happy. And productive because they didn't want the flex schedule taken away. Workers kept an eye on each other. Nobody wanted anyone caught cheating the system because it worked and they didn't want it taken away. Managers kept an eye out to make sure there were no real abuses. As long as the productivity was always high, and the work was getting done, the owners were satisfied. Adults treated like adults. Professionals shown respect. The County has alot more than 100 employees, but each department in each agency is usually alot smaller.

[Unregistered Guest]

Best managed place I ever worked was a family run business of about 100 or so employees. People could come in between 8 and 10 in the morning, were expected to work 8 hours and take 1 hour for lunch. So if you dropped the kid off at the bus stop and came straight to work - you got there at 8. You didn't have to kill an hour going back home. Then you could leave at 4. But if there was something you had to do, or you just overslept, you could come in at 10 and leave at 6. People workded the hours that suited them best - and were happy. And productive because they didn't want the flex schedule taken away. Workers kept an eye on each other. Nobody wanted anyone caught cheating the system because it worked and they didn't want it taken away. Managers kept an eye out to make sure there were no real abuses. As long as the productivity was always high, and the work was getting done, the owners were satisfied. Adults treated like adults. Professionals shown respect. The County has alot more than 100 employees, but each department in each agency is usually alot smaller.

You are a good Employee who has worked and understands the Private Sector. Many County Employees have not and would abuse your flex system. The Union would take the tardy Employees side, grievences would be filed, and work would further slow down.

The good Civil Service Employees are always punished because on the useless Hacks.

[Unregisteredjjj]

The Poilice Dept is not going to do it. Anyone out in a car post signs on to a computer everyday. In their case every minute is accounted for. They are on assignment, on patrol or doing an administrative thing. As for people inside, the hours vary, they change day to day, they often have out of office assignments. It wouldn't work.

[In time to go]

I've been a private sector employee, and now am a public sector. I can't believe what a joke this system is. The people who abused time before, still do. The abusers all seem to be supervisors. Yet, even before intime, these supervisors would go after employees who were 5 mins late back from lunch, yet they would come in late, and leave early - stealing at least 1 hour a day from the taxpayers - not to mention all their personal phone calls, and online time.

So the regular employee was always accountable. This system has been especially designed to keep the supervisors from being accountable themselves. As a "timekeeper", I've seen supervisors go after someone who was a few mins late in the morning, but then they fudge their own time. I had reported an incident to their supervisor, but was told to mind my own business. Supervisors and up are allowed to go on a computer from home or work, and enter their "arrival" and "departure" times. They enter "Missed Clock Forms." They can make these up. They don't even have to show up to work to do this.

For those of you residents who think this is a good system, first of all, its always broken. More time is wasted trying to fix the problems Intime creates. Everyone's' accruals are always wrong. I recently took a week long vacation. Put the information in correctly, and was charged for five 1/2 days. My supervisor spent over an hour with me trying to fix the problem to 5 full days, and had to make several phone calls -- what a waste of time for us both. By the way, it was my honesty that found this error.

I also saw a lot of honesty in the average employee in my department, (again, as timekeeper). Yes, people did come in late, some often. There are issues with bringing kids to school in the mornings, and of course, the parking lot problem. But what I saw was that most people would feel guilty about arriving late. Maybe it was by 5 or 10 mins or so. Then they would take 15 mins to 1/2 hour of their lunch to make up for that lateness. They gave back more to the residents, than they "took." But again, that was your average employee; not one of those "on the top" who are still exempt from accountability, and this Intime system.

[I saw that 2]

Too many supervisors, managers, senior this and head that. They had nothing to do most of the time and flittered away time all day long. Not only didn't do much County work while at work - that's bad enough.

But the 2 and 3 hour lunches and leaving early all the time for pretend meetings was just too much. Meanwhile regular employees working on County business most of the day while they are at work, and these useless morons give them a hard time for a few minutes late or leaving a bit early.

Unqualified people who got jobs they never would have gotten had they not been friends or relatives of someone in Suozzi's administration, abusing the system and the workers. Of course the taxpayers pick up the tab.

[Unregisteredhack]

The County could have saved "MILLIONS" of dollar if they just got a simple punch clock and had everyone use it. Why so high tech? Could it be a payoff to some family member or political supporter?

[UnIdentified 01]

easiest way to stop municipal employee abuse of time? do what they have at the Coliseum.

Palm in and out.

that way NO ONE but YOU can sign in and out... no way to punch someone in or out.

its that simple.

[Unregistered1-8]

Yes palm them in and out. How about an eyeball ID while you're at it or your nutsacks. While we're at it, let's spend another $65 million sprucing up the court building and then the county can pay for the Hub development too.

This system is idiotic. It wasted precious taxpayer dollars and people aren't working any more or less than before. The jerk offs are still jerking off and the people who work are working as always. Of course the appointee Suozzi jerk offs will all be gone soon so they won't have to worry about the system will they.

[LMAO2]

easiest way to stop municipal employee abuse of time? do what they have at the Coliseum.

Palm in and out.

that way NO ONE but YOU can sign in and out... no way to punch someone in or out.

its that simple.

Right - trust some idiot civil service personnel with my palm print. Sure. Right after I give them all my pin numbers, mother's maiden name and blood type.