Carolyn the wonk

[IQ Test]

On top of her issues!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ospNRk2uM3U

[Unregistered Guest]

Gosh, you'd think she'd know the issue cold. It's really unreasonable to expect a congressperson to know every issue thoroughly. I expect a congressman to know the key points on every issue and to know one particular area in detail. Sadly, Mrs. McCarthy is found lacking in both general knowledge of broader issues and detailed knowledge on gun control.

She relies on her high-turnover staff all too much to prop her up. She seldom varies from the simplest of her party's talking points. It's not simply a matter of partisanship. I disagree on more issues with Gary Ackerman, but I respect him as an engaged politician. Mrs. McCarthy seems rather disinterested in the process.

[Earlyriser]

Amazing how these two posts, written by different people, were both between 1-2 AM.

Didn't realize so many people had zero lives.

[Reply2Dullard]

Some folks have insomnia once and a while, others work different shifts, some may have had a late night engagement. Only a complete idiot would make the judgemental remark that you made. Do you know what a barrel shroud is?

[Somepeople]

Some folks have insomnia once and a while, others work different shifts, some may have had a late night engagement. Only a complete idiot would make the judgemental remark that you made. Do you know what a barrel shroud is?

There are also some people who post under various names. Or people who vote in a poll over and over

Then there are some people who are just dics, like the guy who made the last post

[You're off topic]

...like the guy who made the last post
As soon as you clicked submit, I guess that you just elected yourself. I won't disagree with you. But you forgot to add that some dem voters vote from two addresses, some are felons and some are dead. In any case, what does any of your nonsense have to do with the topic of an incompetent person in congress?

[Stonewall]

On top of her issues!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ospNRk2uM3U

Nothing more than a stupid bitch who is still running due to the tragic death of her husband, who was killed by a black Racists. Who did not have an assult weapon.

[Unregistered Guest]

Amazing how these two posts, written by different people, were both between 1-2 AM. Didn't realize so many people had zero lives.

Slow day at work? No job at all? Really now. What honestly-employed person has the time to surf the web and post between 12-1 PM. Pot-kettle-black?

[TickTocktime]

Slow day at work? No job at all? Really now. What honestly-employed person has the time to surf the web and post between 12-1 PM. Pot-kettle-black?


I think it was 12-1 A.M. I guess you would actually have to read a thread before posting.

[Unregistered Guest]

I think it was 12-1 A.M. I guess you would actually have to read a thread before posting.

No, go back and read the post that I quoted (and it was "1-2 AM"). The person complaining about those posting in the wee hours of the morning was himself posting during a supposed workday.

I guess you would actually have to read and comprehend a thread before posting.

[Rathervague]

No, go back and read the post that I quoted (and it was "1-2 AM"). The person complaining about those posting in the wee hours of the morning was himself posting during a supposed workday.

I guess you would actually have to read and comprehend a thread before posting.

Or you could have just made your first post clearer instead ;)

[Unregistered Guest]

Or you could have just made your first post clearer instead ;)

What about "Slow day at work? No job at all?" was unclear? Anyway, I think the fellow who posted snidely has gotten the post.

Thinking Long Islanders can now return to evaluating Carolyn McCarthy's record in Congress. Even Dems concede its lackluster. She shows up, votes the party line, has a few PAC fundraisers, stages the rare district photo op and that's about it.

And this isn't strictly a partisan criticism. I'll give Bishop, Israel and Ackerman credit for at least engaging their constituents on critical issues. I actually enjoy watching these Ackerman debate issues.

McCarthy? Zero. Waste of space. Could pay an illegal alien peanuts off the books to do what she does for us.

Democrats are now beginning to sense that they've spent too much money, too quickly and that's it's had little effect other than to guarantee massive inflation or crippling taxes down the road. Some Dems are backing away from the precipice, but not Mrs. McCarthy. She'll follow the order of Pelosi/Rangel and march right off. The problem with that is she'll take us with her.

[Unregisteredfinito]

She's finished politically. She didn't listen to what the people of her district wanted.

[Unregistered Guest]

She's finished politically. She didn't listen to what the people of her district wanted.

I don't know that she's "finished," but I think she's vulnerable just as every other politician on tax and spend autopilot is at risk. Now the armchair general crowd -- the folks who never work on campaigns but offer plenty of their "wisdom" -- will say Obama won her district by X%, she won by Y%, therefore she'll win easily.

When you confront those folks with the example of Ed Mangano defeating Tom Suozzi, they strain to find reasons why this doesn't apply to Mrs. McCarthy. Where McCarthy and Suozzi do differ is that Suozzi -- when he put his mind to it -- was an effective campaigner. Mrs. McCarthy is like the quiet kid at the back of the class that nobody ever noticed. Suozzi, my Chaminade friends point out, was the class clown.

On the whole, the 4th district is pretty representative of Nassau County. It doesn't veer to the left as the areas represented by Ackerman and Israel do nor to the right as the Kingly areas.

Mrs. McCarthy is not a terribly focused campaigner. Tom Suozzi wasn't focused either -- or rather he didn't focus of the campaign he was actually in.

Count on Mrs. McCarthy to raise @$1.6 million. Unlike Suozzi, she'll spend nearly all of it and unlike Suozzi her media guys won't waste $$$ on Manhattan cable TV advertising. But Suozzi was charismatic and had a decent organization. Mrs. McCarthy is something of a dud.

Odds still favor this incumbent, but not prohibitively so. A well-funded ($800,000) GOP challenger can beat her.

One last point. Some have objected to the putative GOP challengers because they lack excitement. I disagree. But take a look at Ed Mangano. Great guy -- actually a pretty warm guy up close -- but not exactly Mr. Excitement. It's a subtlety within a nuance, but it's not whether a candidate is exciting per se so much as whether a candidate and campaign can excite folks. If people think their guy can win, they'll get excitement regardless of Newsday's biased perceptions about a candidate and campaign's geekyness and/or emptyness.

[Dump McCarthy]

I don't know that she's "finished," but I think she's vulnerable just as every other politician on tax and spend autopilot is at risk. Now the armchair general crowd -- the folks who never work on campaigns but offer plenty of their "wisdom" -- will say Obama won her district by X%, she won by Y%, therefore she'll win easily.

When you confront those folks with the example of Ed Mangano defeating Tom Suozzi, they strain to find reasons why this doesn't apply to Mrs. McCarthy. Where McCarthy and Suozzi do differ is that Suozzi -- when he put his mind to it -- was an effective campaigner. Mrs. McCarthy is like the quiet kid at the back of the class that nobody ever noticed. Suozzi, my Chaminade friends point out, was the class clown.

On the whole, the 4th district is pretty representative of Nassau County. It doesn't veer to the left as the areas represented by Ackerman and Israel do nor to the right as the Kingly areas.

Mrs. McCarthy is not a terribly focused campaigner. Tom Suozzi wasn't focused either -- or rather he didn't focus of the campaign he was actually in.

Count on Mrs. McCarthy to raise @$1.6 million. Unlike Suozzi, she'll spend nearly all of it and unlike Suozzi her media guys won't waste $$$ on Manhattan cable TV advertising. But Suozzi was charismatic and had a decent organization. Mrs. McCarthy is something of a dud.

Odds still favor this incumbent, but not prohibitively so. A well-funded ($800,000) GOP challenger can beat her.

One last point. Some have objected to the putative GOP challengers because they lack excitement. I disagree. But take a look at Ed Mangano. Great guy -- actually a pretty warm guy up close -- but not exactly Mr. Excitement. It's a subtlety within a nuance, but it's not whether a candidate is exciting per se so much as whether a candidate and campaign can excite folks. If people think their guy can win, they'll get excitement regardless of Newsday's biased perceptions about a candidate and campaign's geekyness and/or emptyness.

McCarthy is a do-nothing. Depending on the GOP candidate, expect a strong Dems against McC organization.

[Old_Tired]

Step aside Carolyn. You don't do anything and you don't know anything.
We deserve better!

[Old&tired]

Step aside Carolyn. You don't do anything and you don't know anything.
We deserve better!

Old & tired describes the same lame complaints about McCarthy. Yet she still keeps on winning.

[Unregistered Guest]

Old & tired describes the same lame complaints about McCarthy. Yet she still keeps on winning.

Since 1968, Long Islanders have elected or re-elected Democrats Tom Downey, Lester Wolff, Allard Lowenstein, George Hochbrueckner, Michael Forbes, Robert Mrazek, Jerome Ambro and Otis Pike. Of these past Democrat Congressman, only one retired entirely of his own choosing.

Anyone who thinks Mrs. McCarthy has a lock is letting his partisan views distort his thinking process. Odds favors the incumbent. But Suozzi has taught us that a well-known supposedly-popular incumbent with a huge $$$ advantage can lose in a bad year with a terrible campaign.

Mrs. McCarthy will run a better campaign, doesn't have Suozzi's talent for self-promotion and will run in a bad year. The thing up in the air is her spending advantage. If the GOP closes the gap from the usual 7-2 to 2-1, then it's a horse race. Big if, but that's how it will play out.

[Watch Out!]

Since 1968, Long Islanders have elected or re-elected Democrats Tom Downey, Lester Wolff, Allard Lowenstein, George Hochbrueckner, Michael Forbes, Robert Mrazek, Jerome Ambro and Otis Pike. Of these past Democrat Congressman, only one retired entirely of his own choosing.

Anyone who thinks Mrs. McCarthy has a lock is letting his partisan views distort his thinking process. Odds favors the incumbent. But Suozzi has taught us that a well-known supposedly-popular incumbent with a huge $$$ advantage can lose in a bad year with a terrible campaign.

Mrs. McCarthy will run a better campaign, doesn't have Suozzi's talent for self-promotion and will run in a bad year. The thing up in the air is her spending advantage. If the GOP closes the gap from the usual 7-2 to 2-1, then it's a horse race. Big if, but that's how it will play out.


DAMN - Dems Against McCarthy Now

It's coming!

[track record]

Step aside Carolyn. You don't do anything and you don't know anything.
We deserve better!

What's her win-loss record? If you look at the history of LI congressmen and women she has one of the best strings of reelection in Long Island history. Even if she loses next year (no guarantee) she still has an enviable track record.

[BlameFurgeson]

The price was paid...

We all know the one reason and one reason ONLY, why she has had a string of wins. Most or all of us have or will be met with adversity in our lives. I think it is about time that the collective sympathies for this do-nothing congresspersen have run the well dry.

[that's not it]

The price was paid...

We all know the one reason and one reason ONLY, why she has had a string of wins. Most or all of us have or will be met with adversity in our lives. I think it is about time that the collective sympathies for this do-nothing congresspersen have run the well dry.

That argument lost steam about 10 years ago. She may have gotten elected because of it and maybe reelected once because of it. After that, your constituents know what you're about and that's how you get judged. If you serve your constituents well you get to keep the job, if not you're out. Obviously her constituents have judged her service to be worth keeping.

[WRONG!!]

That's the whole point. She has NOT served her constituents well, and by far the majority of people I encounter feel this way. And, her record also supports this conclusion. Sympathies can run a long course, and to make a foolish assertion that those sentiments do not survive past 2 election cycles is absolutely nuts. She is a piss-poor member of congress whose replacement is long long overdue.

[you're nuts]

That's the whole point. She has NOT served her constituents well, and by far the majority of people I encounter feel this way. And, her record also supports this conclusion. Sympathies can run a long course, and to make a foolish assertion that those sentiments do not survive past 2 election cycles is absolutely nuts. She is a piss-poor member of congress whose replacement is long long overdue.

You're obviously "encountering" the wrong people BECAUSE SHE KEEPS GETTING REELECTED! She OBVIOUSLY serves her constituents well. Her record supports THIS conclusion. You just can't accept that.

[Campaignerone]

You're obviously "encountering" the wrong people BECAUSE SHE KEEPS GETTING REELECTED! She OBVIOUSLY serves her constituents well. Her record supports THIS conclusion. You just can't accept that.

He's mixing up his own personal feelings with reality. She stinks, thats true, but she has not totally ignored her constituents and is seen in the district.


She doesn't serve us great, but she satisfies a solid number, hasn't done anything crazy to piss them off. Until someone takes her to task, you don't give a reason to vote her out. Mangano had taxes, it created an anti-property tax swell and Suozzi paid the price(arrogance also helped).

Mccarthy is flush with cash, she will spend it, and she has somehow managed to lay low during this period.

All roads lead to re-election, albeit buy a smaller number, unless someone gets tough. So far, nobody has taken her to task for anything. Hence, were is the reason for her supporters to change.

Property tax frustration caused this years losses.

[WhatHasSheDone?]

Frankly I just don't see what she has done for the majority of CD-4 constituents. Most people I talk to don't think she has done Jack. Yet, why has she been so Richly rewarded?

[campaignissue]

Frankly I just don't see what she has done for the majority of CD-4 constituents. Most people I talk to don't think she has done Jack. Yet, why has she been so Richly rewarded?

You are right, really she has done nothing. However, nobody has the balls to say it. Rather they campaign around her, trying to hit issues being afraid they will have a Rick Lazio moment.

What do alot of elected officials who arre re-elected do. Not much. They all try and stay out of trouble, keeping the status quo.

Until somebody grows a set, says it like it is, she is assured re-election. You have to give reasons to dump her. So far, ball lacking candidates are abound.

[Unregistered Guest]

Other than get-elected, what has Mrs. McCarthy really done in office?