Nassau County Assessor Finally Going After Slumlords

[Tax the Slumlords]

Now if we can only get him to come to Suffolk.

The only ones complaining are the corrupt landlords and legal and illegal immigrants who want housing legal and illegal.

[Please]

So it's simple than. Keep out illegal aliens. Cut back on legal immigration. We'll have more affordable housing for those who really need it. Our legal long term residents.

Unless your really not an idiot but a slumlord yourself, why wouldn't you mind them taxing illegal dwellings or do you feel that the rest of single family one dwelling homeowners should pick up the slack?:">
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[Spoken Like a a True Idio]

you guys even complain when the administration does something good...

[reasman]

While this sounds like a good idea at first, upon examination it is not. The County changing the status of those buildings to commercial pouts them on toice that they are mulitple dwellings. Allowing the increased population in those buildings wihtout inspection to make sure they are fire and health safe exposes the County and the Towns to liability should something occur. The County cant have it both ways - take the taxes from a commercial property and then let it operate with known code violations. I am a supporter of Suozzi but I think the County Attorney's Office should have thought this through alittle bit more. I read in Newsday that Kaiman is against the idea because it does nothing to alleviate the conditions just collect money for it. Thats another reason this needed some more thought before grabbing the headlines.
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[AlbertsonFF]

John Kaiman wouldn't know code enforcement if it bit him on the rear end. So, why would anyone be surprised that he does not think Levinson's is a good idea. John's all about development and currying favor w/ developers, not enforcing the laws as they relate to zoning and occupancy (or anything else for that matter).

[reasman]

I dont know what you're talking about. In your town (and mine) of Albertson, Kaiman shut down two illegal houses. I called the town recently to complain about another one when I saw that after getting the c/o on a renovation, they knocked part of the rear wall down and put in two back doors. The inspectors informed me that they are wating for the owner to complete the new back steps and then pay them a visit.
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[AlbertsonFF]

BTW, what is wrong, in your mind, with making it more expensive for illegal landlords to do their business. That is, if that is the only benefit (and I do not think itis), why is it a bad idea? Isn't it a salutory result to have these guys (and gals) pay a more proportionate share of the tax burden? I personally think that would be a good thing and am having a hard time figuring out what the downside is. What is your view/thinking on this?

[PeeWee Levinson]

LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA!

The selective enforcement of these assessment laws, rules and regulations in order to gain increased revenue for the County and publicity for the Assessor and his Democratic allies is scurrilous!

He and his allies in the liberal press and the Democratic regime pay lip service to the real issues without addressing them. The same issues of Lyndon Johnson’s “Great Society” such as the lack of low and middle income housing, homelessness, and yes bigotry still prevail.

We, the people of Nassau County have required our elected officials to protect us from the evils of the life they left in New York City. We have also, over the years, systematically segregated our society not only by race but also by income with gated communities, red-lined school districts and even old fashioned codes and property covenants. The only reason why the older parts of Nassau County are Lilly White is because old-time German farmers, in places like Jericho, Hewlett, Searingtown, Mineola, Manhasset, Oyster Bay and Hicksville would retaliate against black interlopers with beatings and other more fatal forms of violence.

All the while, we have ignored the real needs of our society and let those of a marginal existence fend for themselves. Illegal housing is the outgrowth of this systemized bigotry and ignorance and we have no one to blame but ourselves.

So instead of proposing remedies for these societal problems, the public officials now resort to a new form of bigotry and punishment against those who live a marginal existence through their landlords. As if we were farm owners and they were share croppers.

Harvey reminds me of a PeeWee Herman holding his hands over his ears while screaming LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! to drown out what he does not want to hear!

These GESTAPO style of search warrants can’t be legal. Can you get a search warrant for code violations? Can it be legal to enter a home to assess occupancy to satisfy an ordinance, can it?

Is this the act of a true public servant? Or, will this be the kickoff of FACIEST tactics of the new Democratic Party?

[GOOD OLD DAYS]

LOOK AT ALL THESE SLUMLORDS BITCHING AND MOANING.

KEEP ON THEM HARVEY YOUR DOING A GREAT JOB.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Maven]

For your information Levinson is not part of the current gang at West St., he is an independently elected official.
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[reasman]

To respond to your question ALbertson FF, the County, by changing the zoning and charging more money for that land becomes a slumlord as well. It also is going to be difficult to enforce. Why change the assessment there but not for the little old lady who takes in a border
as Harvey says he will not do? IF you do it there you haveto do it everywher or you will be ccused of selctive enforcement, racial discrimination and everything else. IT also opens the County up for liability. If ther is fire next month at one of those homes and someone dies because they cant get out of the firetrap, a good argument can be made that the County bears some responsibility because they accepted the property as a commercial property without making sure it was up to code. You cant have it both ways. Also, what if the landlord evicts every body for four months and asks for a reassessment saying he will follow the rules, then next year does it again. Are we going to reassess him constantly? What if he says they are all related or living "family style" meaning one central kitchen and entrance? Thats neither illegal nor commercial. ITs just not well thought out and is barely enforeceable. Its one of those things that sounds good at first blush but when you give it a little thought ends up causing more problems than it solves. And that the last reason its a bad idea: it wont solve the problem, it will only make the County government part of the problem. We just need to enforce the code thats in effect.
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[reasman gets it]

Reasman must be a lawyer. All you need is a couple of these immigrants to fall down and hurt themselves, or something else to go wrong, and now you can find the County fully liable because they as much as admitted in their Democratic Rag that they inspected these homes, that the police have made many visits to these homes, that they even had warrants for the homes and that they know of , and aren't doing anything about, the condition of the homes except collecting protection money. In fact, maybe the neighbors can bring a class action alleging the County is aiding and abetting a nuisance to exist. And if the theory is that they are only going after homes after they get complaints, there is a hefty discrimination charge if many other complaints come in and it's only the ones with illegal or even legal hispanics living in them that they are going after. Thank you once again West Street and the County Attorney's office for this very fine deep pocket event you've gotten yourself into again. And yeah, Levinson was elected with the full support of Suozzi and that makes him anything but independent.

[PeeWeesWorld]

He blames them for being bigots so now some 60-150 years later it still our fault that slumlords by houses than rent to as many people as possible and in some cases actually collect HUD taxpayer money for some renters.Illegal dwellings and the people who profit from them and the people who use them have cost the taxpayers of Long Island plenty.Look to see where most violations occur and it's near large populations of immigrants. The rich need them. The middleclass pays for them. Our poor must compete with them.

[TAXTOTHEMAX]

You go after the landlord hard. He sees he will not win. He throws his tenants out. Spruces the place up and puts it back on the market in an already over priced market. What about those people who got thrown out. If you think the problem is solved your sadly mistaken. the problem is just beginning. Pat yourself on the back for solving a problem. Give yourself an "F" for creating a situation that led to the problem you just solved.
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[Its FOUR homes]

Levinson probably is satisfying a personal vendetta for somebody for going after 4 people. The point is, he says, if you believe Newsday and nobody really should these days, he's not going after the widower renting out a basement apartment to a Hempstead Town clerical worker - but what's to stop him if he wants to get back at somebody ? I hope the landlords suing him and the County win a bundle in punitive damages, and I hope a couple tenants fall down and sue the County for another bundle and I hope the Daily News prints it up so the taxpayers can see through the smokescreen these media mongrols operate under.

[First hand]

We will all get hurt with this!! The four commercial property will now sell for more money. And your taxes will go up, because the house down the block sold for more money.
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[shortwave]

We need to understand the underlying physics of this problem.

It's not that hard to undrstand really. Nassau County is running out of land. This physical constraint notwithstanding, the treasonous Democratic and Republican politicians, whores that they are for the greedy businness comunity of LI, imported thousands of legal and illegal immigrants into the LI labor market so the bossman could get his labor subsidy. In addition to terrorizing the native born LI workforce into submission, globalizng LI labor markets has increased the size of the population.

:Like they say in real estate:land,they ain't making anymore of it.

If the 1965 immigration reform act had never been passed 40 years ago, this problem and quite a few others-like the expansion of islam on LI on the nation as a whole-wouldn't exist.

Growth doesn't come cheap. In fact, beyond a certain point, growth will never pay for itself. Raise all the bonds you want, It won't solve the problem.

By the way, adding more tax payers to the LI population throuugh legal immigration and the legalization of illegal immigrants won't solve the problem. They growth that they and their offspring are generating has a price tag attached to it-a big one.

I have never known a situation where an intractable problem was made easier to solve by increasing the scale of the problem.

If you are serious about solving these problems- you can be sure that the treasonous democrats and republicans are not the least bit serious about solving the massive problems that confront this nation-you must oppose those policies that increase the scale of pre-existing problems.

Without a doubt, legal and illegal immigration are increasong the scale of several very serious problems in America.

Now you can choose to use brain or not use your brain.


Solution:0 legal and illegal immigration.

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[Come on]

Let's be real here. Zoning is a town issue. If Levison was legitimate, at his press conference, he would have announced that he has certain powers and authority to WORK WITH AND ASSIST THE TOWNS in solving this very difficult problem.

A couple of questions.

If Suozzi decides to move on and try to go higher up in his poiltical career, who is the democrat to step in?

Who is the democrat that attacked the Town of Hempstead Supervisor at the press conference on illegal apartments, the same supervisor who may be a republican choice for County Executive?

Who is the democrat that did not attack a fellow democrat supervisor from the Town of North Hempstead, who just may be a rival for the democratic nod down the road? But both are playing nice in the sandbox, for now.

Mr. Levison. If he really wanted to solve this complex issue, he would work with the towns.

real motive, just politics.


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[short circuit]

Absolutely beautiful with plenty of boutiques and shops. Ice cream parlors, general stores, restaurants with outside bars and decks for eating over the canal. Outside cafes and bars with Caribbean flare and outdoor entertainment. Boats of all sizes docking at the restaurants and bars. Very enjoyable. Noticed houses along the canal and surrounding area are nicely maintained and landscaped.

Then you go through the town and you say to yourself where the heck am I? Is it safe? Is this another country or what?

Shortwave may at times sound brutal but basically he's
CORRECT

[Bumper]

Here's a woman who acquire several homes in the Levittown area thru her divorces and lived in close proximity to her own residence near her rental homes. She rented her homes out to the max and more. She crammed multiple families into a single residence. These renters raped the local tax system while she amassed a fortune. These renters created other problems, too. So much that the local Police had to called. Fights, drug dealing, syringes spewed about, etc. Channel 12 News was supposed to do a story on it as her neighbors were in an uproar about the bad situation she created while she amassed thousands and thousand of dollars at everyones expense. But unfortunately that story got bumped. She sold her home, packed up and left town, and even with another womans husband. It's time these landlords paid thru dues for the thousands of dollars they are making at everyones elses expense. The ones who pay thru the nose for local services including the school taxes that the renters drain.

[Dum Dum Levinson]

Levinson is a very dim bulb. He has made no secret of the fact that he wants to be the next County Executive. He is, however, oblivious to the fact that he doesn't have a snowflake's chance in hell. Unaware of how truly meaningless he is in the world of Nassau Politics, he is trying to raise the level of his name recognition as a precursor to a run for the CE's office. Toward that end he's pulled this grandstanding stunt. As a true amateur in politics, he is unaware that for every dumb yahoo that cheers "go Harvey go" on this site, there are thousands of voters who perceive his stunt as an act of pure politics and stupidity. Harvey, it's only a matter of time before we voters will return you to the obscurity from which you came. Enjoy your 15 minutes . . . .

[Okay Dum Dum do you think]

To Dum Dum Levinson -

Office of County Assessor runs six-year terms, so you'll have to wait a while to vote him out. And I'm not quite sure about your insistence that he's looking to be County Exec. I believe he's 66 now, at the end of his term that would make him 72. A little late to be making that run up the career ladder.

[Some slumlords s**k, BUT.]

To Plainview guy: Try to see the obvious. The issue of when his term as Assessor would expire is irrelevant. Suozzi's goal is to be out of here in 2006 if not sooner. Harvey boy's drooling to step into his shoes as the next CE. But it's not going to happen. As for how to address the slumlords, the slumlords of which you speak are the minority when it comes to illegal apartments. In most cases, people rent out their basement or a portion of their home, just to try to make ends meet. Absentee slumlords should not be placed in the same light, nor should harvey do something stupid which will cost the County millions in lawsuits, when he does something which he has no authority to do. If you want to fight the absentee slumlords, the answer is simple. Call the building inspectors who can issue violations against them. That's the "legal" way to handle it. The funniest thing will be if Dum Dum Harvey tries to deem them "commercial properties." Watch what happens when the owners say, OK, that means I can open a commercial business here. The lawyers are going to have a field day, and the poor taxpayers of Nassau County are going to foot the bill for Harvey's stupidity.

[Tax Free?]

I couldn't agree with you more. I live in the Town of No Hemp and the town has been very responsive in getting back on complaints of illegal housing. They are giving fines and shutting down the homes. Putting pressure on the building dept, writing letters documenting the situation puts the govt on notice and they become concerned about potential liability. Sadly this is all they respond to, but it works.

[INSPECTIONS]

is this possible I thought the towns housing authority is responsible for doing hud inspections?

[Dear Confused apparently]

Pius is at every major fund raiser (all cash), and is the number one reason Hunt Station went from a great community to LI's number one crime site.

The crazy thing is that most of the HS neighborhoods are still occupied by old time, refuse to die, optimistic residents. If Pius, and the slumlords faced any pressure, HS would come back in a heart beat. Too bad the Town Board lives in Half Hollow and doesn't gice a s... about what they vies as blue collar scum in HS,,

[OLDTIMER]

Bias in Huntington town government towards residents living here thats undisputable fact
But they do make money from government programs spent here they do let developers and builders have free reign here and they dont enforce their building codes
many feel some officials are on the take
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is she still on long island?

[Quoth the Maven Nevermore]

For your information Levinson is not part of the current gang at West St., he is an independently elected official.

yeah, yeah, yeah...... Levison was a DCE level Suozzi appointee who investigated the Assessor's Office and then ran for that office later. Like it or not, he's Tom Suozzi's boy. Just like the hacks Tom Suozzi hired from the City who failed to remedy the hundreds of millions of dollars of bribery related corruption in the NYC Department of Finance.

[Here's what happens]

See the article in Newsday about how young adults can't even afford rentals in Nassau County, nevermind to buy in Nassau County? The article started out about the pros and cons of living together and featured 5 women who were college buddies and who just graduated, moved to long island and roomed together in a house. The article ends by saying the 5 women got thrown out of the house because some neighbor called code enforcement and complained there were 5 unrelated adults living there. Next time, the 5 college buddies will NOT move back to long island, where it is unaffordable and where Levinson's policies will prevent them sharing expenses. In the meantime, we still have 100 illegal aliens living together in HUD assisted homes, with Suozzi setting huts up for day laborers and their contractors to conduct their illegal labor buisness. Go Peterson in 2005.

[quote="Maven"]For your information Levinson is not part of the current gang at West St., he is an independently elected official. [/qu


Not really true, The present assessment review commission was appointed by Suozzi and the Dem. majority of the NC legislature before Levisons was elected and they still remains.

[Fly on Z Wall]

#1 topic today at the rep event-no question about it

[Dr.Know]

Tell us the buzz at the breakfast, fly.

[quote=Maven]For your information Levinson is not part of the current gang at West St., he is an independently elected official. [/qu


Not really true, The present assessment review commission was appointed by Suozzi and the Dem. majority of the NC legislature before Levisons was elected and they still remains.

Its about time they deal with this problem

[what have they DONE?]

even with all the newsday Press releases and pretty pics - what have they done? How many did they catch - how many illegals sent over to immigration and back on the bus to los angeles? or was it just talk and press releases in an election year - what they do best?

[Noone can Answer]

You won't get a reply because there isn't one. They haven't done anything. They won't be able to point to one illegal dwelling they closed down sending the illegal aliens over to immigration for deportation. They don't really care about that. Tom Suozzi revitalized Glen Cove by giving the illegal aliens day laborer sites. They donate money to his campaign and stick literature in doorways and on windshields for him. Levinson's idea was to allow the landlords to use single family homes to house multiples of illegals as long as they paid him to do it by re-classifying them as commercial properties. Forget about the zoning violations. It was too much work to get the cooperation of Law Enforcement. Until Dillon woke up and decided maybe he could use some press time too and decided to rescue Suozzi's poor clods and hit the law enforcement angle. Which, he's probably not prosecuted anybody under anyway and I bet he's not set up anything to work with immigration on the issues either. So there is no answer because the truth is that this administration can do nothing but give Newsday press releases because there is nothing they've accomplished. And the accomplishments they claim don't exist.

[Multiplicity]

Levinson's scam won't do anything but make money for Tom Suozzi to spend on his patronage jobs. Market rates for the illegal apartments will just be raised to cover the costs of higher taxes. More apartments will be made in the houses to accomodate more renters. More renters will pile into the rooms and apartments now split off to be able to pay the higher rents. They will start pitching tents in the backyard. That's what Levinson's plan will accomplish. So go ahead and call big brother. It'll only backfire in your face like everything else the Suozzi administration does on the pretext that it's for your own good.

[ill wind blows no good]

Nassau County is just like Suffolk County

Daylaborer sites funded with taxpayer dollars is strictly illegal.

Ex County Executive Gaffney wouldn't let the county of Suffolk do just that because of the law.

So how does Suozzi and Petrone get away with that? :?

[Pass the word]

Tell your friends about Suozzi's pro-immigrant stance and how the solution is to close their eyes and tax them higher. Build, Build, Build - low income apartment buildings. Let's urbanize surburbia says Tom. Then tax them at commercial rates. Print out this thread and show it to them. Pass around the truth. Get Suozzi out in 2005

[The problem with Newsday]

It's all fluff and no substance
After all this publicity - what finally resulted?
How many slumlords did they actually arrest - how many buildings were actually forced back into compliance and how many illegals were actually handed over to the INS?
I bet none
What about tax increases due to re-classifications?
How many buildings were identified?
Seems the two answers should be the same no?
No.
Why?
Because the plan was all fluff with no teeth. Just like the whole Suozzi vision thing.
All talk - no details - no action.

And the campaign is full of more of the same. Lies and more Lies.

How's Suozzi's police drivers doing?

[Curious Georgina]

look at you all praising levinson for coming down on the latino community for ilegal housing well, why don't we take a look at other areas like, Mineola where white's do the same, East Meadow, white's do the same, Long Beach, whites do the same, etc. This is not an issue just in Hempstead, Westbury, Uniondale, Freeport or Roosevelt. This is a problem everywhere......and it should be a concern to the Thomas suozzi administration. But Suozzi is not doing anything either he thinks that by building more upward or more housing that he's solving the problem, however, either he's dumb or blind because this housing that is being built is unaffordable anyway.

I'm tired of politics, I thought the democrats would protect my people but Suozzi is not pro - Latinos. He's against us by sending inspectors to our homes. Suozzi all that he's doing is hiring a few token Latinos such as Marianela Jordan who does not do anything at CASA anyway. Where did she come from? I never heard about her before Suozzi? Every time I go there, I've been turned away because I have to first make an appointment and then the people there look at me bad like I have 2 heads. CASA was not like this before, I used to go there and the doors were always open for me and my family. In 1995 CASA helped me get my resident papers filled out and everything was great.

George Siberon another token latino who I never saw him before Tom Suozzi won. Where did he come from?

Luis Mendez, well at least I know where he came from. Before Suozzi he was already doing positive things for our community, not much, but he was doing something.