Mosque In Massapequa?

[tom339]

Any truth to the rumor they are putting a MUSLIM MOSQUE smack dab in the middle of Massapequa on Merrick Road and Biltmore Rd where the Christian Science Church is?

[Unregistered32232]

Any truth to the rumor they are putting a MUSLIM MOSQUE smack dab in the middle of Massapequa on Merrick Road and Biltmore Rd where the Christian Science Church is?

Who cares. My neighbors are Muslim, nice people, well bahaved kids, put the flag out on the 4th. Most Muslims, especialy in this Country are normal American loving people. ANd if you try to run that shit about the Koran demanding they kill infidles I can show you parts of the Bible that say you must kill those who arent Christians.

[PutUporShutUp]

I defy you to produce these alleged parts of the Bible.

[Unregistered335]

Who cares. My neighbors are Muslim, nice people, well bahaved kids, put the flag out on the 4th. Most Muslims, especialy in this Country are normal American loving people. ANd if you try to run that shit about the Koran demanding they kill infidles I can show you parts of the Bible that say you must kill those who arent Christians.

Please post the bible parts where it shows Christians should kill non Chriatians.


I'll wait...

[Unregistered SnowBoy]

There's no chance this is true. The TOB would never allow this to happen because they know residents will be up in arms about it.

[Unregistered3232322323]

Please post the bible parts where it shows Christians should kill non Chriatians.


I'll wait...

In chapter 13 of Deuteronomy

"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods...thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God."

Feel free to apologize now.

[Unregistered Guest]

Please post the bible parts where it shows Christians should kill non Christians. I'll wait...

Waiting here, too. This will be a stunner.

As to Mosques. I have mixed feelings. Not too long ago a Muslim group tried to buy a building in my town to start a mosque. I went to a meeting of a Catholic men's group where the members complained about it. I thought to myself: turn back the clock to 1922 and substitute Catholic for Muslim. This is what our supposedly Christian Protestant brothers once said about Catholics: we're not real Americans, we have foreign allegiances.

Now there is a subtle difference. Sadly, my fellow Catholics have engaged in terrorism and used religion as an an excuse to do so. Occupied Ireland comes to mind. However, Irish Terrorists had one ironclad rule. Even though the US government was always Anglo-friendly and there were many British targets here in the US, they never committed acts of terrorism in the US. The sense was that, if the PIRA car-bombed a British diplomat in Manhattan, Irish-Americans would react negatively.

Frankly, I don't see American Muslims angry about Muslim terrorism. They make excuses, peddle bizarre conspiracy theories (e.g., no Jews killed on 9/11; Mossad did it) and object to our war on terrorism. American Muslims need to lead our fight against terrorism if they truly wish to consider themselves Americans.

One last thing. Mosque? Massapequa? Will Peters Schmitt/King dedicate it? I'll pay to see that.

[Pope John]

A mosque is a church, and as such is entitiled to certian protections. Any politician who says he or she won't allow it is blowing smoke. He or she may not be able to stop it. This is AMERICA.

[Unregistered Guest]

In chapter 13 of Deuteronomy

"If thy brother . . . entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods...thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death . . . ."

Feel free to apologize now.

I feel sorry for someone so uneducated in western culture and religion that he fails to grasp the difference between the OLD and the NEW Testaments. I'll try to keep this short. The Old Testament (in which the above quote appears) refers to God's covenants with the Jews. It applies to Christians equally where the New Testament doesn't supersede it. The New Testament treats God's new covenant with Christians. Christians, according to the new testament don't divorce and can eat lobster -- because the New Testament allows us to do so.

Matthew 12:31-32 clarifies the Old Testament for Christians:

Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven. And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.

The Christian testament speaks not of killing, but generally of forgiveness and makes the narrowest excepts for forgiveness -- but then points to heaven or hell as the reward/punishment rather than a premature earthly path.

It's hard to believe that some folks are so plainly ignorant.

[Unregistered33223323]

I feel sorry for someone so uneducated in western culture and religion that he fails to grasp the difference between the OLD and the NEW Testaments. I'll try to keep this short. The Old Testament (in which the above quote appears) refers to God's covenants with the Jews. It applies to Christians equally where the New Testament doesn't supersede it. The New Testament treats God's new covenant with Christians. Christians, according to the new testament don't divorce and can eat lobster -- because the New Testament allows us to do so.

Matthew 12:31-32 clarifies the Old Testament for Christians:

Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven. And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.

The Christian testament speaks not of killing, but generally of forgiveness and makes the narrowest excepts for forgiveness -- but then points to heaven or hell as the reward/punishment rather than a premature earthly path.

It's hard to believe that some folks are so plainly ignorant.

I got news for you, the Old Testament is part of the Bible, is it not ? They still read from the old Testament in Mass do they not ?

By the way .

Matthew 10: 34-36
"Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword.



Now if that was printed in the Koran many wuold be jumping up and down sreaming " see see see".

The Koran is many places very specific about war and killing, Generaly spoken of in the context of self defense only and that Allah does not allow war to made on \the innocent regarless if they are Muslim or not. If you want to take it out of context however you can turn the Koran into a murder manual


As to the Bible, is it a diffrent God in teh New Testemant? Maybe its the same God but he realized he was wrong before? Is that your argument ? HAs teh Christian religion stated that the Old testemant was wrong , inacurate and shouldnt be taught ? How is it that the same religion that vehemently disputes evolution becasue teh Old Tetstemant talks about Creation suddenly think other parts of the OLd Testemant are null and void. ?

[on the tit]

I feel sorry for someone so uneducated in western culture and religion that he fails to grasp the difference between the OLD and the NEW Testaments. I'll try to keep this short. The Old Testament (in which the above quote appears) refers to God's covenants with the Jews. It applies to Christians equally where the New Testament doesn't supersede it. The New Testament treats God's new covenant with Christians. Christians, according to the new testament don't divorce and can eat lobster -- because the New Testament allows us to do so.

Matthew 12:31-32 clarifies the Old Testament for Christians:

Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven. And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.

The Christian testament speaks not of killing, but generally of forgiveness and makes the narrowest excepts for forgiveness -- but then points to heaven or hell as the reward/punishment rather than a premature earthly path.



It's hard to believe that some folks are so plainly ignorant.

You believe in the supernatural and have the temerity to call others ignorant????

[Smarter than U]

You believe in the supernatural and have the temerity to call others ignorant????
I didn't post here earlier, but feel I must interject. Talk about temerity! It is the atheist who is truly ignorant. A fool says there is no God. But nobody is going to win or lose that debate here on these boards anyway. I just couldn't help noticing your own hypocritical temerity.

As far as commenting on another post, no, God didn't change His mind about anything. At the right time, old BC rules were superceded by the new, trans-Christ era. You would naturally not understand any of it if you are an outsider, and the knowledge cannot be conferred to you in this forum. Neither can faith. So, since you are ignorant about Christianity, it is pointless for you to exude your condescending opinions.

[Mosque Or No Mosque]

Things got a bit off track here. Is there a mosque or not coming to Massapequa. If there is it should get real interesting. Allah versus Venditto. I'd make John a 17 1/2 point favorite. Remember how he ignored the Constitution and bounced out all of those adult places.

[Duhhh]

Thanks for specifying what type of Mosque it is.
Didn't know there was any other type.

[Unregistered43443]

I didn't post here earlier, but feel I must interject. Talk about temerity! It is the atheist who is truly ignorant. A fool says there is no God. But nobody is going to win or lose that debate here on these boards anyway. I just couldn't help noticing your own hypocritical temerity.

As far as commenting on another post, no, God didn't change His mind about anything. At the right time, old BC rules were superceded by the new, trans-Christ era. You would naturally not understand any of it if you are an outsider, and the knowledge cannot be conferred to you in this forum. Neither can faith. So, since you are ignorant about Christianity, it is pointless for you to exude your condescending opinions.

Im NOT an outsider. Since the New testament superceded the Old one why is the old one still spoken constantly in Church ? WHy is evolution constantly refuted by Christians because of what the Old Testtemant says/ Why is homosexuality condemed becasue of what the Old Tetamant say s? YOur above quote is ridiculous. Well God used to order babys heads smashed in en mass but now theres a new translation, see all better now, but those dam Muslims.

ANd did Christ not also say, I did not come with peace but with a sword?

The point in the Bible and the Koran can be translated to suit poilitcail purposes with ease. I belive most Christians and Muslims are decent people. EIther book read by a rational person trying tu understand teh underlying message are books of peace

[dynomite]

Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto preaches of a virtual paradise on earth but we all know better. The actual practice of communism gave us Stalin, Kruschev, Mao, Castro, Ceuscesco (romania) etc... All mass murderers. Similarly, the Koran may say wonderful peaceful things but the practice of islam is mighty violent. Remember Fort Hood? The exceeding majority of terrorist acts around the world are perpetrated by muslims -- not Christians.

[lisadf]

Things got a bit off track here. Is there a mosque or not coming to Massapequa. If there is it should get real interesting. Allah versus Venditto. I'd make John a 17 1/2 point favorite. Remember how he ignored the Constitution and bounced out all of those adult places.

They always put these places in white neighborhoods. There is an all black church in the middle of Seaford for years on Jerusalem Ave. Now there is an all INDIAN one on Jerusalem as well.

WTF?

[Unregistered send back]

Most of these people own a lot of busineses and send their money back home to their country. Never will they invest in their community or their schools. when they start building private schools we will get shorted on our public schools funding

[kitkatty]

They need to assimilate and sharia law is a moot point! If they don't vet and turn in their extremists than they should close down the mosque! I think thats
only fair for the preservation of our country.

[Swiss Alps]

Swiss vote to ban new mosque minarets
Last Updated: Monday, November 30, 2009 | 12:27 PM ET Comments1123Recommend318
CBC News
Voters in Switzerland have approved a proposal to ban the construction of minarets on mosques, according to results of a referendum held Sunday.
In this Oct. 26, 2009, file photo, pedestrians walk in Zurich below posters promoting a "Yes" to the initiative banning the construction of minarets in Switzerland. (Steffen Schmidt/Keystone/Associated Press)
Some 2.67 million people voted 57.5 to 42.5 per cent in favor of the initiative. Voters in only four of the 26 cantons, or states, opposed the proposal, paving the way for a constitutional amendment.
Polls conducted before the referendum showed that only 37 per cent of voters support the ban on new minarets.
The nationalist Swiss People's Party, the largest party in parliament, had pushed for the national vote after labeling the mosque towers as symbols of militant Islam.
Walter Wobmann, president of a committee that backed the initiative, said its aim is not to stop people from practicing their religion, but to stop political Islam and the "further Islamization of Switzerland."
Supporters of the ban claim that allowing minarets would represent the growth of an ideology and the Islamic legal system Shariah, which they claim are incompatible with Swiss democracy.
Amnesty International, though, has warned that such a ban would violate Switzerland's commitment to religious freedom.
Swiss Muslims say the recent construction of Sikh temples and Serbian Orthodox churches is proof that Islam is being singled out for discrimination.
"The initiators have achieved something everyone wanted to prevent, and that is to influence and change the relations to Muslims and their social integration in a negative way," said Taner Hatipoglu, president of the Federation of Islamic Organizations in Zurich.
The seven-member Swiss cabinet also spoke out against the initiative, put to a referendum after members of the Swiss People's Party and the Federal Democratic Union collected 100,000 signatures from eligible voters who said they were in favor of a nationwide vote.
The Swiss government argued a construction ban would cause "incomprehension overseas and harm Switzerland's image" and it reminded voters that Swiss mosques currently do not broadcast the call to prayer outside their buildings.
In the country of 7.5 million people, about 400,000 are Muslims, most of them immigrants from Turkey or the Balkans. Fewer than 13 per cent actively practice their religion, the Swiss government says.
Only four of the country's estimated 150 mosques have a minaret, while a fifth tower has recently been approved for construction.

[Unregistered323223]

They need to assimilate and sharia law is a moot point! If they don't vet and turn in their extremists than they should close down the mosque! I think thats
only fair for the preservation of our country.

You know what would be fair for the people of this Country. If we stopped calling the Saudies who sponser the worlds most radical from of Islam in the world our allies. The Country that produced Osama Bin Laden. The Country that produced most of the 9-11 hijackers. The people who attacked us where not American Muslims, they where mostly Saudie Muslims. My muslim neighbor whos kids are riding up and down the street with my kids on bikes going to a Mosque once a week isnt the threat. The people who run Saudie Arabia, gave Clinton millions in bribe money and did millions of dollars in buisness with Bush are.

[Unregistered344444]

Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto preaches of a virtual paradise on earth but we all know better. The actual practice of communism gave us Stalin, Kruschev, Mao, Castro, Ceuscesco (romania) etc... All mass murderers. Similarly, the Koran may say wonderful peaceful things but the practice of islam is mighty violent. Remember Fort Hood? The exceeding majority of terrorist acts around the world are perpetrated by muslims -- not Christians.

True. Yet the largest slaughter of people since WW2 in Europe was the genocide of Muslims by Orthodox Christians in Serbia. Then of cousre there where teh thousands upon thousand genocided in Rawanda by Catholic forces. Took the vatican 4 years to condem it .AS tragic as Fort Hood was ( what assholes didnt catch that guy long ago ) and 9-11, I will not be happy till Bin LAden is fucking killed and to think that we went to Iraq first and still refuse to go into Pakistan to get him is unacceptable, there are many many tragedys in the world. If you want to convince yourself that CHristians arent part of it go ahead

[Unregisteredopenmind]

True. Yet the largest slaughter of people since WW2 in Europe was the genocide of Muslims by Orthodox Christians in Serbia. Then of cousre there where teh thousands upon thousand genocided in Rawanda by Catholic forces. Took the vatican 4 years to condem it .AS tragic as Fort Hood was ( what assholes didnt catch that guy long ago ) and 9-11, I will not be happy till Bin LAden is fucking killed and to think that we went to Iraq first and still refuse to go into Pakistan to get him is unacceptable, there are many many tragedys in the world. If you want to convince yourself that CHristians arent part of it go ahead

Thank you for that post.
Maybe (just maybe) it will open some minds.
At least people should do a littlelpersonal research, and perhaps read some world history before forming such closed minded prejudiced opinions.
It's the (usual small percentag of) radicals in any organized religion that are the terrorists.

[Ed4554]

Mosque in Massapequa = Bye Bye property values.

[Blackrain6721]

Mosque in Massapequa = Bye Bye property values.
The white trash republicans have already brought down the property values

[Blackrain6721]

Any truth to the rumor they are putting a MUSLIM MOSQUE smack dab in the middle of Massapequa on Merrick Road and Biltmore Rd where the Christian Science Church is?

They dont complain when you red neck republicans park your 6 cars on your lawn

[Trollbuster]

Black... you're one strange dude. Are you from Mississippi or something?

[Unregistered so what?]

Why would anyone other than bigots care?

[TommyBoy6]

The white trash republicans have already brought down the property values

The houses on Biltmore range rom 600K to 2 million each. I'm sure you're in a nicer area...lol

[Aleenak]

It's so sad to see how ignorant some people really are:(
I mean, really, it breaks my heart. People who haven't read the Quran are able to say such stereotypical and biased things about it. Amazing! That was the last kind of stupidity I had to see, so thanks.

As for all these terrorism acts, the Quran does NOT allow for it. Hurting ANYONE innocent, Muslim or non-muslim, is NOT allowed. So please people, get educated. And don't be racist. Cause you're in the wrong country then.

I wish they'd build more schools. Some of you can start with elementary.


And I'm really impressed by the intelligence of others! Clearly, some people really do know the difference between a religion and radicalism:) Kudos!

["Peeps" Schmitt]

Allah be praised!

[Slaving To Pay Taxes]

I have no objection to the mosque than any other religious body. All of them pay no taxes for the services they use and mooch off the taxpayers.

[Thoms More]

Seeing how 90+ of the people in the country belive in God, they have the perrogotive to determine that religious institutions need not pay any taxes. Get over it.

[Slaving To Pay Taxes]

Seeing how 90+ of the people in the country belive in God, they have the perrogotive to determine that religious institutions need not pay any taxes. Get over it.

The religious could do the same praying, wailing, kneeling and thumping without forcing others to pick up the tab.

[UnregisteredssddD]

Things got a bit off track here. Is there a mosque or not coming to Massapequa. If there is it should get real interesting. Allah versus Venditto. I'd make John a 17 1/2 point favorite. Remember how he ignored the Constitution and bounced out all of those adult places.

Yeah... his assistant had to go to a used bookstore in all the way in Levittown to get porn.

[Levittown Only Wishes]

Maybe so but you're hitting on one of the very reasons why Venditto is probably the best vote-getter on Long Island. People have had enough and he gets it.

[Unregistered 678]

Do you think venditto honestly cares about anything but his political party, he singled out mosques, did he do the same for churches.

[UnregisteredRenhack]

Any truth to the rumor they are putting a MUSLIM MOSQUE smack dab in the middle of Massapequa on Merrick Road and Biltmore Rd where the Christian Science Church is?

They should put it next to Peter Kings house. Someone needs to keep an eye on it!