Mary Haviken -Road Rage

[Nassau Resident too]

It sounds to me like Officer Ripp was doing his job when an out of control- road raged- arrogant - name spewing - hostile woman puts other motorists in harms ways. Why was she not locked up for obstruction??? I bet if it were me or any other tax paying citizen we would have found ourselves in cuffs in the back of the patrol car waiting for a ride to the precinct. Why was she allowed to get away with her hostile actions because her HUSBAND works for the county of nassau in the police department? I can not believe (if you can believe Newsday) that the Commissioner of Police really listened in on the telephone call between Haviken and her husband. What would provoke this guy to have his boss get on the phone? I guess it must be a "new york city" :roll: :roll: :roll: thing. Was she given a sobriety test? She should have been escorted to Area IV (psych) of NUMC for mental observation. Mary Haviken (60 yrs old) throws a childs temper tantrum because the big mean police officer would not let her make a left turn. GET A LIFE! :roll: :roll: :roll:

[lets be honest]

Why was she not locked up for obstruction???

You've got to be kidding? You expect a Nassau County patrol officer to make a misdemeanor arrest that does not involve a police officer or a domestic situation?

That ain't gonna happen!!!!

Most Nassau patrol officers want nothing to do with misdemeanor arrests (aka "Bullsh!t arrests).

By using a variety of tactics not taught at the police academy, and by taking advantage of the fact that they go largely unsupervised, most Nassau patrol officers would rather find a way to sh!t-can, rather than make a misdemeanor arrest...even if the complainant wants an arrest made.

So if you expected PO Rigg, for the good of the public, to take action in the form of an arrest, you apparently assume cops in Nassau care about the public.

[PBA member]

As if you know anything, firsthand not cut and paste, about what cops do anywhere.

[Taxpayer II]

The 2 Long Island County police forces are a disgrace to any LEO, they are overpaid and thus they are lazy and spend the whole shift in the firehouse parking lot, the diner, down some deadend street, etc .... where are the sergeants, lts, etc to supervise them? They have no supervision (like little kids), are greedy and nasty (always demanding another raise), when I was a kid back in the mid 90's i had a friend who was being chased by another group of kids and was robbed and attacked in FULL VIEW of a marked SCPD car and he ran to the officer asking for help and he said "sorry kid i got better things to do" and drove off. Abolish the SCPD and NCPD and just have a sheriff's office to do countywide and specalized police work, jails, courts, civil process, etc and municipal police forces (like pre 1960 Suffolk County), also no more civilians (abolish commissioners) and every rank (except maybe chief) should be civil service.

[FROM GREENER PASTURES]

AS a former NYPD who came out here for the better job, i admit we are treated better, better benefits and pay, but in no way is it the country club everyone claims.

[Blue Blooded]

When you were a kid in the mid-90s? What are you now, in your teens or maybe 20? Paying sales tax on your candy bar does not justify your referring to yourself as a taxpayer.

[6th Pct MOS]

I believe the PO at the scene did the right thing at the scene by not locking this EDP up. If she put her hands on him then that would be a whole different story. What I found most disturbing about this story is the part about the brass offering to end the investigation if the PO apologized to the woman. Are you kidding me? This woman should be apologizing to the officer and her husband should be apologizing for the behavior of his wife. Even the civilian witnesses are saying that she was wrong. Hopefully this whole thing will be put to an end soon. And to all of those people that keep complaining about the Nassau/Suffolk PDs, if you are unhappy where you live then leave. If you can afford to live out here then you can afford to live anywhere in the U.S. You are the same people that tie up the police with your house alarms that go off when the wind blows or your 911 calls about your neighbor's dog barking. We are paid just right for what we do and the things we might have to do. Maybe you are overpaid for whatever it is that you do.

[INTESTINES]

EDP.....NOW THAT WAS FUNNY!

[perfect match]

The 2 Long Island County police forces are a disgrace to any LEO, they are overpaid and thus they are lazy and spend the whole shift in the firehouse parking lot, the diner, down some deadend street, etc ...
for the taxpayers of these two counties

[cop fan/dt]

Officer Ripp showed remarkable and admirable restraint. The Suozzi Hacks and their families are clearly out of control, and this is why they must be stopped. Hopefully, this incident demonstrates to the police why Suozzi and his New York City goons must be sent back to Pelham, Bayside, Brownsville, New Dorp, or wherever the hell else they live in the 718 area code.

[UF-28]

AS a former NYPD who came out here for the better job, i admit we are treated better, better benefits and pay, but in no way is it the country club everyone claims.

I understand the pay and bennies are better on the island. It's the part about LI Police having a "better job" that I do not understand. Are these better jobs simply because of the pay and benifits, or are there other reasons it's a better job?

[greener-pastures]

yes we are treated far better by the supervisors.you dont worry as much about being hung out to dry. the work is about the same, you work alone so you pick up double the workload, less violent calls... for now. the people are different out here. the average citizen doesnt believe our laws apply to him, less respect than most of the skells i dealt with in the city.

[hear and now]

when I was a kid back in the mid 90's

that makes you about what....17. run for county exec!!

[truthbeetold]

Once a rat always a rat.


Sounds like you've been in trouble. Theres no rats in IAB. The rat is the guy or gal working next to you that writes those annonymous letters.... or that go complaining to the bosses.

[9yearcop]

I for one, commend Officer Ripp for showing the restraint that I believe should have been shown. Of course if she had turned it into a physical thing then the rules of the game change. But, Officer Ripp was, as I understand it, controlling traffic. That to me means that what he was doing at that exact time was keeping motorists safe from collisions and pedestrians safe from being squashed. To any decent LEO, that means that the intersection IS the priority and should not be abandoned because some EDP is VERBALLY abusing you. A simple call over the radio asking for one additional unit to assist would be the way to go. Then the cop who responds and sees this bitch pulling her S**T has all the time in the world to deal with her while not jeopardizing the safety of those passing through the intersection. OR, the backup unit can take over the intersection while the cop getting verbally abused does what needs to be done (which hopefully would be at least a DISCON). Just my two pennies. Stay safe all!

[0.75yearcop]

I for one, commend Officer Ripp for showing the restraint that I believe should have been shown.


OR, the backup unit can take over the intersection while the cop getting verbally abused does what needs to be done (which hopefully would be at least a DISCON). Just my two pennies. Stay safe all!

Your two pennies add up to 3 cents.

How do you reconcile suggesting PO Ripp did the right thing by taking no action AND then suggest the "bitch" should have been cited for DisCon?

You make no sense. Where did you spend your 9 years as a cop? Patrolling a Walmart parking lot?

And if you are a cop, you epitomize why cops are their worst enemies.

Regardless.....look at all the publicity it got because of who she is.

Place the average taxpayer in the same scenerio where we make a complaint and it falls on deaf ears. The taxpayer is not only rebuked, they are called liars then harrassed, stalked, slandered and humiliated because they had the audacity to stand up for themselves.

If that woman initiates a civil suit she won't be treated as I was, she will be listened to and respected because her hubby is a big kahuna. The average tapxayer will be ripped a new anus in court because the county attorney will make up lies and coersing the jury that it was under "indeigent circumstances" that it happened.

[YOUAREWRONG]

''Place the average taxpayer in the same scenerio where we make a complaint and it falls on deaf ears. The taxpayer is not only rebuked, they are called liars then harrassed, stalked, slandered and humiliated because they had the audacity to stand up for themselves''
If this woman does anything but than apologise in public she will be laughed at by all, forget the civil action.

[9yearcop]

.75 years? That sounds about right for you. You speak with the arrogance and ignorance of the newest rookie (or civilian). If you took my post as a whole and not take each sentence individually (my compliments on your copy and paste talents, I'm impressed), you would (or at least a veteran would) see where I was coming from. The idea was that the officer didn't risk the safety of the motorists he was directing so that he could deal with a non-violent EDP. I hope my wife and kids aren't passing through an intersection you're directing while you just walk away from it because someone hurts your feelings. By the way, since when is calling for another unit considered "doing nothing?" It's called responsible Police work. Get some time under your belt before you start snapping at other officers who give their opinions. Learn how to have a civilized conversation officer.

[gotmy20]

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[quote="9yearcop"]
OR, the backup unit can take over the intersection while the cop getting verbally abused does what needs to be done (which hopefully would be at least a DISCON).



[b][i][u] Actually she should have been issued a ticket for VTL 1102 - fail to obey a lawful order

[22yearcop]

prioritizing. 9yearcop couldn't have said it better. When faced with several situations simutaneously you handle them in order of importance. .075 years? If you have to use decimal points to total your year on the job maybe you should go back over your academy material instead of being a wiseass to an experienced officer. Hopefully your intelligence extends to the testing process.

[0.75yearcop]

I hope my wife and kids aren't passing through an intersection you're directing while you just walk away from it because someone hurts your feelings.

I am a trained, professional police officer. When I am wearing my uniform I suspend my feelings and replace them with my oath to uphold the law and protect life.

I am still confounded about how you claim by his inaction, PO Rigg did the right thing, yet you believe a person who acts like Mrs. Haviken should be arrested for DisCon.

I didn;t write this post, you did:

I for one, commend Officer Ripp for showing the restraint that I believe should have been shown....OR, the backup unit can take over the intersection while the cop getting verbally abused does what needs to be done (which hopefully would be at least a DISCON). Just my two pennies. Stay safe all!

[fess up!]

When faced with several situations simutaneously you handle them in order of importance.
Then perhaps you could tell us what is more important to the average police officer?

Public safety? OR administering a spanking to a civilian who has the unmitigated temerity to question police authority?

[BabaORiley]

" I am a trained, professional police officer. When I am wearing my uniform I suspend my feelings and replace them with my oath to uphold the law and protect life. "

This guy is a d1ck.....

[SCPD012]

Wow Fess Up can use a Thesaurus. He is not a Cop and it is obvious that he has little to no life if he is so intrigued with the Police. I commend the NCPD Officer for his restraint. Discon, OGA, and assault 2 all come to mind as opinions yet he decided to cut her a break. Coming from the NYPD I have knowledge that the Chiefs there are under the immpression they are omnipotent. This comes from doing the wrong thing to so many cops there over the years. I guess this guy's wife thinks she is incapable of wrong doing marriage to a Civialian member of the Department. I'm sorry to say but this appears to be another of Suozzi's hand picked leaders to change the County. Good luck NCPD, we feel your pain in the EAST, remember VOTE for KATE! for County Exec

[22yrcop]

When faced with several situations simutaneously you handle them in order of importance.
Then perhaps you could tell us what is more important to the average police officer?

Public safety? OR administering a spanking to a civilian who has the unmitigated temerity to question police authority?

In your infinite wisdom, Fess Up, please enlighten us as to where the "spanking" was. In almost all traffic control situations there will invariably be some self-appointed all-knowing numbnut that thinks, after observing the scene for all of 10 seconds, that he or she knows a better way and will not hesitate to inform the officer of how to do the job correctly - especially if that person has to suffer the slightest inconvenience. Public safety is the name of the game. Even for a**holes like you, because those without any common sense need protection more than the average person. Now think for one minute, if you can, what would happen if everyone at that intersection acted like the woman in this instance. Forming a mental picture? Is it a pretty sight? Now just plead guilty and mail your ticket in and try to rejoin society.

[Guy in Flannel Pants]

Wow Fess Up can use a Thesaurus. He is not a Cop and it is obvious that he has little to no life if he is so intrigued with the Police.

You say that as though you believe those of us who sit here 24/7 watching the screen and waiting for the next police related post, are somehow infatuated with police officers?

Personally, between page reloads, I like to watch my DVD copies of Adam12 and Barney Miller...now they were real cops!

I commend the NCPD Officer for his restraint.

He would have sold a lot more papers if he gassed her, she had a heart attack and he had to perform CPR on her right in the middle of Park and Wantagh Aves. That's the primary reason I carry a disposable camera when I'm out riding my fully dressed 57' Schwinn Glider.

Discon, OGA, and assault 2 all come to mind as opinions

Charge her with assault 2 and you will find yourself walikng a steady foot post in the precinct parking lot.

yet he decided to cut her a break.

It's comforting to know our police officers can pick and choose who they want to arrest. I wonder if Officer Ripp would have generously cut me some slack if I disrespected his authority in front of an audience?

Coming from the NYPD I have knowledge that the Chiefs there are under the immpression they are omnipotent.

So you moved to a job where not only do the chiefs think they are omnipotent, but so do the police officers. Can't say I blame you.

This comes from doing the wrong thing to so many cops there over the years.

I have a feeling I am not the only one reading this who is curious to know why NYPD chiefs do "the wrong thing to so many cops" in the city? You seem articulate and opinionated. Why not start a thread providing us with the specifics. I'll do you a favor and alert that there may be a sudden increase in bandwidth usage.

remember VOTE for KATE! for County Exec

I am going to have to agree if you're referring to Kate Murray?

Norman and I hope she is always in a position to dictate how taxpayer money is spent. In case youre interested, Norman is my African Grey. I line the bottom of his cage with the tons of self promotional material Mrs. Murray causes to be placed in my mailbox every month and he does his best to drop a slimy wet one on her broad smiling face as she stares up at him. When he hits his target I reward Norm with a half a teaspoon of Islandai vodka. Take my word for it, he rarely misses.

[Guy in Flannel Pants]

In almost all traffic control situations there will invariably be some self-appointed all-knowing numbnut that thinks, after observing the scene for all of 10 seconds, that he or she knows a better way and will not hesitate to inform the officer of how to do the job correctly -

It's about time some of you officers were properly and more intimately supervised.

Public safety is the name of the game.

I thought "flagging" was the name of the game?

Even for a**holes like you, because those without any common sense need protection more than the average person.

When I read your writings, why do I picture a man wearing white boxers shorts with little pink hearts embroidered down the seams, sitting at his PC with one hand on the keyboard and the other God knows where?

Now think for one minute, if you can, what would happen if everyone at that intersection acted like the woman in this instance.

I think the supervisor on the scene would have called for a mobilization and when back-up troops arrived it would have been hats and bats with some arrests to follow.

Forming a mental picture? Is it a pretty sight?

It may not be a pretty sight, but it is exciting watching a group of arrogant motorists getting their heads bashed in by riot police who want nothing more than to unleash their rage and frustrations on unarmed, pain in the azz civilians. I hope Newsday heard about this.

[Puleeeese]

Police and thier families ESPECIALLY the wives are the biggest offenders then cry to daddy when somebody disrespects them. waaaa, boo-hooo :cry:

Police and thier families ESPECIALLY the wives are the biggest offenders then cry to daddy when somebody disrespects them. waaaa, boo-hooo :cry:

And where does the wife of a police officer derive the notion that they are special and above the law?

I'll tell you where...from her husband!

[To My Friend Guest]

Guest, I am glad to see that you are placing Mrs. Harkiven's culpability squarely on the shoulders of her husband, who must be considered a part of the new breed of New York City hacks imported by the Tom Suozzi regime to cause havoc in this fine county. So, Guest.... are you now prepared to denounce the Suozzi Administration's suspect hiring practices, and are you calling for the termination of Mr. Harkiven, and all the City imports just like him?

[yeah!!]

The city crap wont fly out here. The cops are stronger, less Anti goverment types ala Tim Mcveigh, Sharpton. Just the gangs ala 8.1. and the crips, blood, l.ks, ms13, m18s, etc but they have political pull, the cities full of political crooks, out here they're just school board members,lol.

[yeah!!]

OOPS, I meant the gangs have no pull, politically. The city bosses will face the music out here, where the cops at least get a fair shake.

The city bosses will face the music out here, where the cops at least get a fair shake.

Maybe you could explain what you mean? :)

[No can do]

If you dont know, you shouldnt be reading here.