Police Conference Shootout

[lmnopqrst]

Has anyone heard that there was a "disagreement" between the PBA and some of the other police unions in the Conference when they tried to throw out the Deputies Union from the Conference? Word has it that the Southampton PBA stood in defense of the Deputies. Imagine that! Can anyone verify?

[chilipepper]

Has anyone heard that there was a "disagreement" between the PBA and some of the other police unions in the Conference when they tried to throw out the Deputies Union from the Conference? Word has it that the Southampton PBA stood in defense of the Deputies. Imagine that! Can anyone verify?

if you have to ask, you'll never know.

[Unregisteredand]

I was there. I don't know exactly what happened, but I saw a couple of the PBA higher ups walking out of their private meeting in side room after the regular conference meeting had begun. Looks like they had scowls on their faces. Maybe thats what it was about. Who knows. Who cares. Just open the food line already.

[Unregisteredjax5]

I was there. I don't know exactly what happened, but I saw a couple of the PBA higher ups walking out of their private meeting in side room after the regular conference meeting had begun. Looks like they had scowls on their faces. Maybe thats what it was about. Who knows. Who cares. Just open the food line already.heard buster sinclair took a stand. good job buster. i am an scpd member and believe the conference is a FRATERNAL organization. much too political. i believe the pba is trying to take over the conference. fuck em. they have this sense of entitlement that is really starting to get under everyone's skin. just pba board members that have absolutely no say in how the pba is run(only one guy does that) so they want to flex their muscles in the conference. i'm supposed to be impressed with "P.J. the B.J."? this guy has never done one meaningful thing on this job. not one. wait! he did try to help out a drug dealing mta cop at the 7th pct. a few years ago by shooting off his big fat mouth. now he wants to be "joe police conference". police conference is a joke. just another cash cow for members of the suffolk pba (more stipends). everyone should get out now.

[Unregistered6566]

Has anyone heard that there was a "disagreement" between the PBA and some of the other police unions in the Conference when they tried to throw out the Deputies Union from the Conference? Word has it that the Southampton PBA stood in defense of the Deputies. Imagine that! Can anyone verify?

Take my word for it, or ask any southampton cop. The sheriffs are a pain in the balls and always come out here wantin to play cop, are not wanted and get in our way. They come out here and wind up making a mess. Please stay the $#%^ out and do what you're hired to do. They would take over our jobs in a heartbeat.

[fhsdfghbb]

The guy that mouthed his concern has a family member who is a dep. Believe me Southampton thinks the deps should go back to making baloney sandwiches also. Blue sticks together.

[End This]

Yes it is a FRATERNAL org., I understand the Deps. had to go on the L.I.E and the Sunrise but their UNION should have been shouting NO! Then followed their orders and went. But when a union steps on another union with its leaderships blessings that is just wrong and not in the spirit of a FRATERNAL org. What should really happen is for the Deps. and P.D. union leadership, sit down and hash this out without either one losing face. Both leaders should see that neither side wins, but it helps LEVY. In this case it looks like the deps. union leadership is in bed with the C.E. and that will be dangerous in the long run. Right now the deps have more pull in the C.E. office, but how long do you think that's going to last....a couple of more years at most? Then what is going to happen, the P.D. come back in power with the C.E. and then the deps are going to pay. Again who wins....nobody. This war should not be fought and the UNION leaders should see to it. Both union leaders should work hard to see that this war ends because in the long run both will benefit their members.

[UnregisteredJustDrive]

I love it when the sheriffs radio in nonsense like an mva without injury. Where as the motorists were content on just exchanging information which is the requirement under the VTL, the deputy tries to impress himself and radios it in on our band. This generates a CC and 50 more minutes of paperwork.

If nobody is injured, MYOB. We'll get to it without your help.

[Unregisteredeli]

Yes it is a FRATERNAL org., I understand the Deps. had to go on the L.I.E and the Sunrise but their UNION should have been shouting NO! Then followed their orders and went. But when a union steps on another union with its leaderships blessings that is just wrong and not in the spirit of a FRATERNAL org. What should really happen is for the Deps. and P.D. union leadership, sit down and hash this out without either one losing face. Both leaders should see that neither side wins, but it helps LEVY. In this case it looks like the deps. union leadership is in bed with the C.E. and that will be dangerous in the long run. Right now the deps have more pull in the C.E. office, but how long do you think that's going to last....a couple of more years at most? Then what is going to happen, the P.D. come back in power with the C.E. and then the deps are going to pay. Again who wins....nobody. This war should not be fought and the UNION leaders should see to it. Both union leaders should work hard to see that this war ends because in the long run both will benefit their members.the deps union should worry about the suffolk pba? why?
every union should worry about the best interests of THEIR OWN MEMBERSHIP. nothing personal. that's just business. I think the sheriff and county exec put the deps in a very difficult position. if my union president came out publicly and said that our members weren't capable of doing any job i would immediately demand his resignation. but no! the deps union should worry about what's best for the members of the sc pba? when has the suffolk pba ever came out and stood up for anyone's best interests other than their own? even frayler said publicly that if he were representing the deps he would now seek parity with the scpd. but the deps should give up that chance for the good of the suffolk pba? please! i agree. the suffolk cops got screwed on the e-way and sunrise and i will be glad when they get it back. but don't blame the deps or their union. blame muratore's and eddington's buddy- sheriff demarco. how come the pba isn't holding those two sellouts responsible for their actions? what hypocrites!

[IN A FEW YEARS]

Because the ones that hold public office ARE NOT COPS! As we all know in the end the deps. are going to pay for this! The SCPD out numbers them 10 to 1 and trust me the members will not forget. Yes, every union leader should put their members first, but you my friend are thinking short term not long term. Weather you like it or not SCPD is the big kid on the block and yes the principal (LEVY) is protecting them that will be short term. As far as contracts are concerned every single police union owes the SCPD, because our contract sets up their contract. The deps job was not the same as the P.D. and weather they deserved equal pay with P.D. who knows. But I am pretty sure the police unions (IN THE PAST) would not support us doing evictions and transport prisioners from jail to court etc. Although clearly if the P.D. ordered us too do it we would have no choice. All I can say is when the tide turns WATCH OUT IT'S GOING TO BE UGLY FOR THE DEPS.

[pindick]

heard buster sinclair took a stand. good job buster. i am an scpd member and believe the conference is a FRATERNAL organization. much too political. i believe the pba is trying to take over the conference. fuck em. they have this sense of entitlement that is really starting to get under everyone's skin. just pba board members that have absolutely no say in how the pba is run(only one guy does that) so they want to flex their muscles in the conference. i'm supposed to be impressed with "P.J. the B.J."? this guy has never done one meaningful thing on this job. not one. wait! he did try to help out a drug dealing mta cop at the 7th pct. a few years ago by shooting off his big fat mouth. now he wants to be "joe police conference". police conference is a joke. just another cash cow for members of the suffolk pba (more stipends). everyone should get out now.

he is a douche bag,,,,wife even a bigger on,,,,,,,,telling other cops war stories and at the same time scamming the county

[Unregisteredyoyoma]

Because the ones that hold public office ARE NOT COPS! As we all know in the end the deps. are going to pay for this! The SCPD out numbers them 10 to 1 and trust me the members will not forget. Yes, every union leader should put their members first, but you my friend are thinking short term not long term. Weather you like it or not SCPD is the big kid on the block and yes the principal (LEVY) is protecting them that will be short term. As far as contracts are concerned every single police union owes the SCPD, because our contract sets up their contract. The deps job was not the same as the P.D. and weather they deserved equal pay with P.D. who knows. But I am pretty sure the police unions (IN THE PAST) would not support us doing evictions and transport prisioners from jail to court etc. Although clearly if the P.D. ordered us too do it we would have no choice. All I can say is when the tide turns WATCH OUT IT'S GOING TO BE UGLY FOR THE DEPS.i agree. that's politics. maybe the deps will pay the price one day. if that's the case then they'll have to deal with it. but let's face it. we have 6 more years of levy and maybe even dormer. that's a harsh reality. in the mean time it's GOING TO BE UGLY FOR THE SCPD(ie. this last sgt.'s list.) but with our two biggest supporters (eddington and muratore) also in bed with demarco, what does that say? discuss amongst yourselves.

[conk]

Because the ones that hold public office ARE NOT COPS! As we all know in the end the deps. are going to pay for this! The SCPD out numbers them 10 to 1 and trust me the members will not forget. Yes, every union leader should put their members first, but you my friend are thinking short term not long term. Weather you like it or not SCPD is the big kid on the block and yes the principal (LEVY) is protecting them that will be short term. As far as contracts are concerned every single police union owes the SCPD, because our contract sets up their contract. The deps job was not the same as the P.D. and weather they deserved equal pay with P.D. who knows. But I am pretty sure the police unions (IN THE PAST) would not support us doing evictions and transport prisioners from jail to court etc. Although clearly if the P.D. ordered us too do it we would have no choice. All I can say is when the tide turns WATCH OUT IT'S GOING TO BE UGLY FOR THE DEPS. Ugly my ass! Whats going to happen pin dick? OOOH are you going to yell at us? Shadupahuface! NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN!!! Now go back to the Fire house Mary boy.

[surprised at you dep]

Ugly my ass! Whats going to happen pin dick? OOOH are you going to yell at us? Shadupahuface! NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN!!! Now go back to the Fire house Mary boy.

WOW!!!!! I would expect a dep to respond like that

[SPECIAL orders]

Ugly my ass! Whats going to happen pin dick? OOOH are you going to yell at us? Shadupahuface! NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN!!! Now go back to the Fire house Mary boy.

Don't worry I will....but you go back to your cell and be a good boy for bubba to play with. Didn't one of you guys get locked up for that too!!!!!!!! Remember-----The DEP SONG -----Hold the pickles, hold the lettuce special orders don't upset us, you can't have it your way at the county jail...Your way at the county jail. DEP FEEL FREE TO STOP BYE OR IN YOUR CASE STOP BI. AT THE F.D. AND WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS!

[Unregisteredopenyoureyes]

Yes it is a FRATERNAL org., I understand the Deps. had to go on the L.I.E and the Sunrise but their UNION should have been shouting NO! Then followed their orders and went. But when a union steps on another union with its leaderships blessings that is just wrong and not in the spirit of a FRATERNAL org. What should really happen is for the Deps. and P.D. union leadership, sit down and hash this out without either one losing face. Both leaders should see that neither side wins, but it helps LEVY. In this case it looks like the deps. union leadership is in bed with the C.E. and that will be dangerous in the long run. Right now the deps have more pull in the C.E. office, but how long do you think that's going to last....a couple of more years at most? Then what is going to happen, the P.D. come back in power with the C.E. and then the deps are going to pay. Again who wins....nobody. This war should not be fought and the UNION leaders should see to it. Both union leaders should work hard to see that this war ends because in the long run both will benefit their members.

Again, just like the PBA can't prevent all from happening, nor can the DSPBA. Everyone did what THEIR bosses ordered their troops to do. The situation was mishandled by SCPBA to start. They DROPPED tHE BALL INITIALLY. This whole situation has been a cluster fuck. But, instead of anyone accepting any wrong doing the PBA is trying to keep running with this, of P,J. And if you ask opinions he's a liability to the PBA with how he runs his mouth and to whom. Give him a few drinks, it's all over!
I heard with his track record he should hardly be making motions to have anyone thrown out of anywhere. It was actually refreshing to see that someone, PAt "Buster" Sinclair , has a set of balls and doesn't let others dictate to him! What, everytime any agency disagrees or doesn't handle things how SCOBA wants them to they are going to look to have them thrown out of the conference. Take a look at the WHOLE Picture! Grow the fuck up and move on!! And funny how it's the same agency bashing the Deps and Vinnie, yet, there are still favors asked. Pathetic, two faced, ball-less c**ts! Lazy ass Pj is drawing alot of negative attention to the PBA.

[Unregisteredcorrection]

the deps union should worry about the suffolk pba? why?
every union should worry about the best interests of THEIR OWN MEMBERSHIP. nothing personal. that's just business. I think the sheriff and county exec put the deps in a very difficult position. if my union president came out publicly and said that our members weren't capable of doing any job i would immediately demand his resignation. but no! the deps union should worry about what's best for the members of the sc pba? when has the suffolk pba ever came out and stood up for anyone's best interests other than their own? even frayler said publicly that if he were representing the deps he would now seek parity with the scpd. but the deps should give up that chance for the good of the suffolk pba? please! i agree. the suffolk cops got screwed on the e-way and sunrise and i will be glad when they get it back. but don't blame the deps or their union. blame muratore's and eddington's buddy- sheriff demarco. how come the pba isn't holding those two sellouts responsible for their actions? what hypocrites!

VERY TRUE AND WELL WRITTEN

[Unregisteredmelkyway]

PJ=DOUCHEBAG....Saw you in the PBA commercial PJ. You're what we're putting out there in public ads to represent us? what a disgrace. you have never been a cop for one minute of your pathetic little life. now you want to be a tough guy in the police conference? you helped out that criminal mta cop and fucked over your own guys. nice job. i bet you get a nice stipend, credit card, nite diff, and whatever else that you steal from real cops. pathetic!

[Unregistereddep]

Don't worry I will....but you go back to your cell and be a good boy for bubba to play with. Didn't one of you guys get locked up for that too!!!!!!!! Remember-----The DEP SONG -----Hold the pickles, hold the lettuce special orders don't upset us, you can't have it your way at the county jail...Your way at the county jail. DEP FEEL FREE TO STOP BYE OR IN YOUR CASE STOP BI. AT THE F.D. AND WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS!

Which firehouse? I don't need a time I know your there all day.

[umissedthepoint]

the deps union should worry about the suffolk pba? why?
every union should worry about the best interests of THEIR OWN MEMBERSHIP. nothing personal. that's just business. I think the sheriff and county exec put the deps in a very difficult position. if my union president came out publicly and said that our members weren't capable of doing any job i would immediately demand his resignation. but no! the deps union should worry about what's best for the members of the sc pba? when has the suffolk pba ever came out and stood up for anyone's best interests other than their own? even frayler said publicly that if he were representing the deps he would now seek parity with the scpd. but the deps should give up that chance for the good of the suffolk pba? please! i agree. the suffolk cops got screwed on the e-way and sunrise and i will be glad when they get it back. but don't blame the deps or their union. blame muratore's and eddington's buddy- sheriff demarco. how come the pba isn't holding those two sellouts responsible for their actions? what hypocrites!

Another ill-informed deputy arguing the wrong point. The PBA didn't want your union leadership to say "you weren't capable" of doing a job. We all work at jobs where we have to follow orders. Everyone understands and respects that. The point is when members of your union were ordered to take jobs that were being done by another union, your union "leadership" was silent. All they had to do was come out and say that you are doing the job because you were ordered to, BUT as a union you don't agree with management's policies that amount to union busting. They didn't do that. Why? Because it looks like your entire union management is in bed with the county. They know vinnie made the jump from union leader to county management(talk about a sell out!) And they want some too. As a union member, I would say your anger is mis-directed. Instead of bashing the PBA for defending its jobs, you should be asking your union leaders why they were complicent in allowing the county to turn you into scabs.

[UnregisteredchartersIII]

heard buster sinclair took a stand. good job buster. i am an scpd member and believe the conference is a FRATERNAL organization. much too political. i believe the pba is trying to take over the conference. fuck em. they have this sense of entitlement that is really starting to get under everyone's skin. just pba board members that have absolutely no say in how the pba is run(only one guy does that) so they want to flex their muscles in the conference. i'm supposed to be impressed with "P.J. the B.J."? this guy has never done one meaningful thing on this job. not one. wait! he did try to help out a drug dealing mta cop at the 7th pct. a few years ago by shooting off his big fat mouth. now he wants to be "joe police conference". police conference is a joke. just another cash cow for members of the suffolk pba (more stipends). everyone should get out now.

Ole Sinclair better watch his step. He doesn't want to lose his Conference Stipened or his Conference Car. The choice is easy. He can piss off 1600 Suffolk cops who will bail on the Confernece. Then Sinclair loses his car. Or he can piss off the Deputies and the Park Police ( all 11 of them), and he won't be able to get seconds on the desert line. So the choice is easy to make from a financial consideration. No car or no seconds on desert.

[Unregisteredbosco]

Ole Sinclair better watch his step. He doesn't want to lose his Conference Stipened or his Conference Car. The choice is easy. He can piss off 1600 Suffolk cops who will bail on the Confernece. Then Sinclair loses his car. Or he can piss off the Deputies and the Park Police ( all 11 of them), and he won't be able to get seconds on the desert line. So the choice is easy to make from a financial consideration. No car or no seconds on desert.the pba bail on the conference? please. YOU DON'T HAVE THE BALLS. GO AHEAD. those pba idiots on the conference board would then have to give up their generous stipends that they STEAL from the membership. LOL! 90% of those 1600 members have never even bee to a meeting. you think they give a shit about the pba'a agenda?

[baloneyplease]

the Dep union didn't have a sit down because they wanted the highways, plain and simple. If they can pretend to be real cops maybe they can argue for more pay like real cops. In the end the CE played upon their fantasy's of being in the major league when in reality they were pawns that eventually were going to go back to making baloney sandwiches.

Of course guys like korte and the others that wrote PBA cards from several jurisdiction made their own worthless and invalidated their "we didn't want this argument" and it will take a long time for this chapter in history to go away.

Who does that? the old korte and the rest of them are dicks excuse doesn't hold water.

[Unregisteredforget?]

Another ill-informed deputy arguing the wrong point. The PBA didn't want your union leadership to say "you weren't capable" of doing a job. We all work at jobs where we have to follow orders. Everyone understands and respects that. The point is when members of your union were ordered to take jobs that were being done by another union, your union "leadership" was silent. All they had to do was come out and say that you are doing the job because you were ordered to, BUT as a union you don't agree with management's policies that amount to union busting. They didn't do that. Why? Because it looks like your entire union management is in bed with the county. They know vinnie made the jump from union leader to county management(talk about a sell out!) And they want some too. As a union member, I would say your anger is mis-directed. Instead of bashing the PBA for defending its jobs, you should be asking your union leaders why they were complicent in allowing the county to turn you into scabs.

WHY?, YOU ASK...BECAUSE YOUR SCPBA UNION CAME OUT SWINGING...NOT THINKING BEFORE THEY SPEAK... AND SAID WE DEPS WERE NOT POLICE OFFICERS, WE ARE NOT TRAINED, WHEN IN DEED WE STOOD NEXT TO YOU FOR THE SAME TRAINING THE DAY WE WERE SWORN IN. MOST OF YOUR GUYS WEREN'T TRAINED UNTIL AFTER THE FACT OF THEM TRANSFERRING FROM THEIR COMMAND TO HIGHWAY..DEUCHE BAG. SO MAYBE OUR UNIONS "SILENCE" WAS TO BE DIPLOMATIC AND LET YOU DICK HEADS TRY TO WORK IT OUT AMONST YOUR INNER FIGHTING AGENCY AND YOUR PISSING MATCH WITH THE CE. THAT'S WHY ASSHOLE!! MAYBE IF YOUR UNION LEARNED HOW TO THINK AND KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT BEFORE SAYING DISPARAGING THINGS AGAINST OTHER AGENCIES YOU WOULD GET MORE SYMPATHY!! TILL THEN, THE SCPBA DROPPED THE BALL INITIALLY,AND MULTIPLE TIMES AFTER WITH THEIR STUPID ASS STUNTS AND RADIO ADVERTISEMENTS. (CAN YOU SAY EMBARRASSING?)
OUR UNION WAS SILENT BECAUSE YOU GAVE THE ALMIGHTY BULLY TACTIC,,DO THIS OR ELSE. OR ELSE WHAT? I'M GLAD OUR UNION DIDN'T CAVE TO YOU GUYS MOTHER F'ER. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DISRESPECT PEOPLE...AND OUR GUYS DIDN'T TAKE IT!
PS- EVEN IF IT'S TEMPORARY, OUR UNION JUST ADDED A LOT MORE MONEY TO MY "LITTLE PAY CHECK''. SEE YOU AT THE PUMPS!
'

[Unregisteredlololoo]

Ole Sinclair better watch his step. He doesn't want to lose his Conference Stipened or his Conference Car. The choice is easy. He can piss off 1600 Suffolk cops who will bail on the Confernece. Then Sinclair loses his car. Or he can piss off the Deputies and the Park Police ( all 11 of them), and he won't be able to get seconds on the desert line. So the choice is easy to make from a financial consideration. No car or no seconds on desert.

But, you see, you miss the point. Watch his step...the guy is willing to take a step without being lead by the PBA. He's willing to stand up for what he believes in the Police Conference to be and not be strong armed by some jack asses regarding a pissing match that started between political leaders! That is what is so impressive He's being his OWN man. something you ball lickers forgot how to be a long time ago. Its not about the car for Sinclair, it's about doing the right thing!! I commend him!

[Waaaaahmbulance]

WHY?, YOU ASK...BECAUSE YOUR SCPBA UNION CAME OUT SWINGING...NOT THINKING BEFORE THEY SPEAK... AND SAID WE DEPS WERE NOT POLICE OFFICERS, WE ARE NOT TRAINED, WHEN IN DEED WE STOOD NEXT TO YOU FOR THE SAME TRAINING THE DAY WE WERE SWORN IN. MOST OF YOUR GUYS WEREN'T TRAINED UNTIL AFTER THE FACT OF THEM TRANSFERRING FROM THEIR COMMAND TO HIGHWAY..DEUCHE BAG. SO MAYBE OUR UNIONS "SILENCE" WAS TO BE DIPLOMATIC AND LET YOU DICK HEADS TRY TO WORK IT OUT AMONST YOUR INNER FIGHTING AGENCY AND YOUR PISSING MATCH WITH THE CE. THAT'S WHY ASSHOLE!! MAYBE IF YOUR UNION LEARNED HOW TO THINK AND KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT BEFORE SAYING DISPARAGING THINGS AGAINST OTHER AGENCIES YOU WOULD GET MORE SYMPATHY!! TILL THEN, THE SCPBA DROPPED THE BALL INITIALLY,AND MULTIPLE TIMES AFTER WITH THEIR STUPID ASS STUNTS AND RADIO ADVERTISEMENTS. (CAN YOU SAY EMBARRASSING?)
OUR UNION WAS SILENT BECAUSE YOU GAVE THE ALMIGHTY BULLY TACTIC,,DO THIS OR ELSE. OR ELSE WHAT? I'M GLAD OUR UNION DIDN'T CAVE TO YOU GUYS MOTHER F'ER. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DISRESPECT PEOPLE...AND OUR GUYS DIDN'T TAKE IT!
PS- EVEN IF IT'S TEMPORARY, OUR UNION JUST ADDED A LOT MORE MONEY TO MY "LITTLE PAY CHECK''. SEE YOU AT THE PUMPS!
'

boo hoo hoo. the pba hurt my feelings. waaaah.
dont worry, soon that paycheck will be little again, but you'll still be a scab.

[Unregistered1111111111111]

Wonder how many Deps will be in the new SCPD class switching over. Theres always a couple. Then of course they wont hate cops any longer and will be all SCPD. Too bad they will be coming to a job that has been decimated, in large part because of their Sheriffs willingness to take another unions jobs.

[Unregisteredgiveitarest]

Give it a fukin break. Our job is the way it is not because of the Dep union, not because of our union, but because of our own "leader". Our own is ruining our job. Stop with the bullshit blame game. if you can't see this for what it is then your an idiot!

[youknowit]

Wonder how many Deps will be in the new SCPD class switching over. Theres always a couple. Then of course they wont hate cops any longer and will be all SCPD. Too bad they will be coming to a job that has been decimated, in large part because of their Sheriffs willingness to take another unions jobs.

I cant wait to see them in the pct on field training, badmouthing demarco and spilling the beans on the political patronage job that the Sheriffs Dept has become. and I'll bet they cant wait to sign that PBA dues withdrawl authorization too.

[UnregisteredHeyStupid]

WHY?, YOU ASK...BECAUSE YOUR SCPBA UNION CAME OUT SWINGING...NOT THINKING BEFORE THEY SPEAK... AND SAID WE DEPS WERE NOT POLICE OFFICERS, WE ARE NOT TRAINED, WHEN IN DEED WE STOOD NEXT TO YOU FOR THE SAME TRAINING THE DAY WE WERE SWORN IN. MOST OF YOUR GUYS WEREN'T TRAINED UNTIL AFTER THE FACT OF THEM TRANSFERRING FROM THEIR COMMAND TO HIGHWAY..DEUCHE BAG. SO MAYBE OUR UNIONS "SILENCE" WAS TO BE DIPLOMATIC AND LET YOU DICK HEADS TRY TO WORK IT OUT AMONST YOUR INNER FIGHTING AGENCY AND YOUR PISSING MATCH WITH THE CE. THAT'S WHY ASSHOLE!! MAYBE IF YOUR UNION LEARNED HOW TO THINK AND KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT BEFORE SAYING DISPARAGING THINGS AGAINST OTHER AGENCIES YOU WOULD GET MORE SYMPATHY!! TILL THEN, THE SCPBA DROPPED THE BALL INITIALLY,AND MULTIPLE TIMES AFTER WITH THEIR STUPID ASS STUNTS AND RADIO ADVERTISEMENTS. (CAN YOU SAY EMBARRASSING?)
OUR UNION WAS SILENT BECAUSE YOU GAVE THE ALMIGHTY BULLY TACTIC,,DO THIS OR ELSE. OR ELSE WHAT? I'M GLAD OUR UNION DIDN'T CAVE TO YOU GUYS MOTHER F'ER. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DISRESPECT PEOPLE...AND OUR GUYS DIDN'T TAKE IT!
PS- EVEN IF IT'S TEMPORARY, OUR UNION JUST ADDED A LOT MORE MONEY TO MY "LITTLE PAY CHECK''. SEE YOU AT THE PUMPS!
'

Unlock your caps if you want to be taken seriously.

I can see why you never passed a PD test. If you had, you would have extra money all the time.

[Unregisteredforgotten]

WHY?, YOU ASK...BECAUSE YOUR SCPBA UNION CAME OUT SWINGING...NOT THINKING BEFORE THEY SPEAK... AND SAID WE DEPS WERE NOT POLICE OFFICERS, WE ARE NOT TRAINED, WHEN IN DEED WE STOOD NEXT TO YOU FOR THE SAME TRAINING THE DAY WE WERE SWORN IN. . '

I was not trained to work hwy in the academy. I was not trained for hwy in the pct. I've never worked hwy, and would not unless i received the training that the scpd hwy cops had.
tnx for proving my point.

[343434]

I cant wait to see them in the pct on field training, badmouthing demarco and spilling the beans on the political patronage job that the Sheriffs Dept has become. and I'll bet they cant wait to sign that PBA dues withdrawl authorization too.

It's not just the SO. The whole civilianization of the police department is really just a deception to create patronage jobs on a massive level.

[Unregisterednooneis]

I was not trained to work hwy in the academy. I was not trained for hwy in the pct. I've never worked hwy, and would not unless i received the training that the scpd hwy cops had.
tnx for proving my point.

Look, even PO's that are transferred from the highway aren't "trained" until after the fact. As you said, we are not trained in the pct. Point being, anyone can be trained to do the job, and much is learned while doing the job!

[33433]

Look, even PO's that are transferred from the highway aren't "trained" until after the fact. As you said, we are not trained in the pct. Point being, anyone can be trained to do the job, and much is learned while doing the job!

You're both correct, but when SCPD had highway, there was a large pool of experienced officers to mentor newcomers. This brought them up to speed in an efficient and safe manner. By totally eliminating Highway Patrol overnight and replacing them with untrained and ill equipped deputies, it only did SCPD, the deputies, and most certainly, the public, a disservice. It was a malicious, dangerous act of politics that served NO ONE other than the syncophants who did it.

The deputies have shown themselves to be what we already knew- capable professionals. They didn't deserve to be placed in this situation.

[UnregisteredTomHowler]

Who's that female sheriff on Rt 495? Looks like Susan Boyle.

[Unregisteredcyb22]

Who's that female sheriff on Rt 495? Looks like Susan Boyle.who's the ego maniac with no neck and six chins in the pba office. looks like an overstuffed barney rubble.

[Unregisteredccc]

who's the ego maniac with no neck and six chins in the pba office. looks like an overstuffed barney rubble.

your real pappy

[Unregisterednewjack]

when do we find out if the deps union gets voted out of the conference?

[SHOW UP]

when do we find out if the deps union gets voted out of the conference?

if it means that much to you, come to a meeting.

[Back room politics]

I am not surprised that the SC PBA was attempting to throw Deps out of the conference, if they could manage it, the SC PBA would throw the Deps off a steep cliff. The scpd will likely get the Highway Patrol back, and good for them - after all it was their job. But the Deps have done a damn good job. They have brought up their numbers to near what the scpd numbers were and they have done so with less man hours and less personnel assigned. The ot has been rampant, but as correctly stated on this site numerous times, a Dep at time and one half is still three bucks an hour cheaper than the scpo's are at straight time. At the end of the day, the sc pba has been shown to be vulnerable to a politician who refused to bend to their will, the deps have shown they can do whatever job they are told to do, regardless of how many times Jeff says they cant, and this war will wage long after Jeff and the entire scpba is retired to the Villages in Florida. Too bad both unions couldn't work together and make a pact to defeat Levy and bring the deps closer to the salary range that all of us already enjoy.

[ROFLCOPTER]

the Deps have done a damn good job. .


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL O

NOW MAKE ME A BALONEY SANDWICH BITCH

[Unregisteredqq]

It's not just the SO. The whole civilianization of the police department is really just a deception to create patronage jobs on a massive level.

thats politics in general

[Unregistered1-0]

Look, even PO's that are transferred from the highway aren't "trained" until after the fact. As you said, we are not trained in the pct. Point being, anyone can be trained to do the job, and much is learned while doing the job!

they were trained before they worked alone. Of coursr its after the transfer

[Unregisteredex090]

New cops assigned to Hwy were field trained and attended TVB many times before getting into the hot seat.

[iuhd]

New cops assigned to Hwy were field trained and attended TVB many times before getting into the hot seat.

There were several SCPD that were forced to HWY right out of the academy. The first time those guys testified at TVB they were wearing their yellow coward stripes.

[fraternaly yours]

when do we find out if the deps union gets voted out of the conference?

the way i hear it, there will be a vote to kick the Dep's union leadeship out of the conference. It's like 4 or 5 guys. If they get voted out by the conference membership at the open meeting, it's assumed that the rank and file Dep's will resign in protest/solidarity.
I guess if the rank and file resign from the conference, it means they support their union's position of agreeing to take another unions jobs, and are in favor of their own union leadership contributing to the union busting efforts of the county exec. That doesn't exactly mesh with the SCPC mission to promote fraternity amongst all LE agencys within the county.
Go ahead Dep's and bash me for the alleged wrongs the PBA has inflicted on you over the years. I may even agree with you on some of the points. But one thing is for sure, Suffolk cops never tried to take jobs away from the Dep's.
Happy Thanksgiving and Stay safe out there no matter what color your uniform is.

[UnregisteredCUMON]

the way i hear it, there will be a vote to kick the Dep's union leadeship out of the conference. It's like 4 or 5 guys. If they get voted out by the conference membership at the open meeting, it's assumed that the rank and file Dep's will resign in protest/solidarity.
I guess if the rank and file resign from the conference, it means they support their union's position of agreeing to take another unions jobs, and are in favor of their own union leadership contributing to the union busting efforts of the county exec. That doesn't exactly mesh with the SCPC mission to promote fraternity amongst all LE agencys within the county.
Go ahead Dep's and bash me for the alleged wrongs the PBA has inflicted on you over the years. I may even agree with you on some of the points. But one thing is for sure, Suffolk cops never tried to take jobs away from the Dep's.
Happy Thanksgiving and Stay safe out there no matter what color your uniform is.

NO, WHAT IT MEANS IS THEY ARE FORTUNATE THAT THEY HAVE THE SOLIDARITY TO STAND TOGETHER AND NOT LET ANY OTHER UNION DEMEAN WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY WERE TRAINED TO DO...THEY ARE POLICE OFFICERS LIKE IT OR NOT!! THE UION DID WHAT ANY UNION BOARD IS SUPPOSED TO DO WHICH IS STAND UP FOR THEIR MEMBERS. SCPBA WAS NOT GOING TO BULLY THE DSPBA AGENCY WITH WHAT THEIR TERMS WERE GOING TO BE. THE SCPD PBA DID NOT THINK THIS OUT, AMONST OTHER THINGS BEFORE THEY OPENED THEIR BIG FAT MOUTHS, AND AGAIN WHEN THEY TRIED TO SCREW WITH THE DEPS RETIREMENT SYSTEM. TWIST THIS ANYWAY YOU WANT, A UNION STOOD UP FOR IT'S MEMBERS. SOMETHING I WOULD THINK ANY SOLID BOARD WOULD DO IF ANOTHER AGENCY TRIED TO SCREW WITH THEIR MEMBERS. PBA MISHANDLED THIS WHOLE THING FROM START TO PRESENT. MOVE ON AND STOP THE BABY BULLSHIT.
YOU TALK ABOUT BEING FRATERNAL?..THE PBA DOES NOTHING BUT TRY TO CONTROL EVERY AGENCY. THEY LIE AND BRIBE. HOW SOME OF THESE JACK ASSES CAN LOOK AT THEMSELVES KNOWING HOW THEY TWISTED THIS FROM DAY ONE IS BEYOND ME. YOU ARE WALKING AROUND WITH BLINDERS ON. SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT BE FOND OF FRAYLER, BUT THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL HE WOULD HAVE ALLOWED ANYONE TO DOWNPLAY HIS MEMBERS, THIER DUTIES OR CAPABILITIES. INSTEAD, HE ALLOWS HIS BOARD TO CONTINUE TO TRY FUELING THE FIRE. GROW THE FUCK UP AND MOVE ON!! NOT EVERYONE IS GOING TO AGREE WITH ONE ANOTHER ALL THE TIME. THE ANSWER IS NOT TRYING TO REMOVE PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH YOU, BUT TO BE DIPLOMATIC AND WORK TOWARDS MAKING CHANGES THAT WOULD BE BEST IN THE LONG RUN FOR EVERYONE. COME ON, GET SOME MANAGEMENT SKILLS! OH, HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO YOU TOO!

[SCAB HATER]

NO, WHAT IT MEANS IS THEY ARE FORTUNATE THAT THEY HAVE THE SOLIDARITY TO STAND TOGETHER AND NOT LET ANY OTHER UNION DEMEAN WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY WERE TRAINED TO DO...THEY ARE POLICE OFFICERS LIKE IT OR NOT!! THE UION DID WHAT ANY UNION BOARD IS SUPPOSED TO DO WHICH IS STAND UP FOR THEIR MEMBERS. SCPBA WAS NOT GOING TO BULLY THE DSPBA AGENCY WITH WHAT THEIR TERMS WERE GOING TO BE. THE SCPD PBA DID NOT THINK THIS OUT, AMONST OTHER THINGS BEFORE THEY OPENED THEIR BIG FAT MOUTHS, AND AGAIN WHEN THEY TRIED TO SCREW WITH THE DEPS RETIREMENT SYSTEM. TWIST THIS ANYWAY YOU WANT, A UNION STOOD UP FOR IT'S MEMBERS. SOMETHING I WOULD THINK ANY SOLID BOARD WOULD DO IF ANOTHER AGENCY TRIED TO SCREW WITH THEIR MEMBERS. PBA MISHANDLED THIS WHOLE THING FROM START TO PRESENT. MOVE ON AND STOP THE BABY BULLSHIT.
YOU TALK ABOUT BEING FRATERNAL?..THE PBA DOES NOTHING BUT TRY TO CONTROL EVERY AGENCY. THEY LIE AND BRIBE. HOW SOME OF THESE JACK ASSES CAN LOOK AT THEMSELVES KNOWING HOW THEY TWISTED THIS FROM DAY ONE IS BEYOND ME. YOU ARE WALKING AROUND WITH BLINDERS ON. SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT BE FOND OF FRAYLER, BUT THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL HE WOULD HAVE ALLOWED ANYONE TO DOWNPLAY HIS MEMBERS, THIER DUTIES OR CAPABILITIES. INSTEAD, HE ALLOWS HIS BOARD TO CONTINUE TO TRY FUELING THE FIRE. GROW THE FUCK UP AND MOVE ON!! NOT EVERYONE IS GOING TO AGREE WITH ONE ANOTHER ALL THE TIME. THE ANSWER IS NOT TRYING TO REMOVE PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH YOU, BUT TO BE DIPLOMATIC AND WORK TOWARDS MAKING CHANGES THAT WOULD BE BEST IN THE LONG RUN FOR EVERYONE. COME ON, GET SOME MANAGEMENT SKILLS! OH, HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO YOU TOO!

This must be the line of crap (Lies) you keep feeding the Deputies to keep them supporting their union board. But The truth came out at PERB, The Deputies Union board knew about the plan to take over the highways, and actually participated in it! The DSPBA second VP actually was the one who began assigning Deps to those roads as far back as May of 2007. He testified to that! This is the same guy who tried to bully the Riverhead PD by seting up speed enforcement in front of Riverhead PD when they, without bashing any Deputies, stated at a conference meeting that the Riverhead PBA supported the Suffolk PBA and Suffolk SOA in this issue because they (Suffolk PBA and SOA) originally and have always had those jobs (sunrise and L.I.E). Even if he was ordered to make those assignments, no one from the Deputies union ever called or in any way notified the the Suffolk PBA or SOA that this was happening! Lets also not forget that the Deputies have been setting up speed enforcement in school zones throughout the Suffolk police district, the incident in Central Islip where they let a felon run around for 2 hours without notifieing the 3rd precinct, putting the Sheriffs boat in Huntington harbor, the list of their attempts at stealing more jobs from the Suffolk police unions continues to grow! Prior to September 15th 2008 neither the Suffolk PBA or SOA had done nothing to hurt the Suffolk Deputies, despite your claims, but anything they (Suffolk Police Unions) do to the Deputies after that date they (Deputies) have coming for actively stealing the work of other unions! When you attack someone you should be prepared for when they fight back, and if you thought the Suffolk PBA and SOA would let you steal their jobs and do nothing about it you were sorely mistaken!!

[UnregisteredWrong]

This must be the line of crap (Lies) you keep feeding the Deputies to keep them supporting their union board. But The truth came out at PERB, The Deputies Union board knew about the plan to take over the highways, and actually participated in it! The DSPBA second VP actually was the one who began assigning Deps to those roads as far back as May of 2007. He testified to that! This is the same guy who tried to bully the Riverhead PD by seting up speed enforcement in front of Riverhead PD when they, without bashing any Deputies, stated at a conference meeting that the Riverhead PBA supported the Suffolk PBA and Suffolk SOA in this issue because they (Suffolk PBA and SOA) originally and have always had those jobs (sunrise and L.I.E). Even if he was ordered to make those assignments, no one from the Deputies union ever called or in any way notified the the Suffolk PBA or SOA that this was happening! Lets also not forget that the Deputies have been setting up speed enforcement in school zones throughout the Suffolk police district, the incident in Central Islip where they let a felon run around for 2 hours without notifieing the 3rd precinct, putting the Sheriffs boat in Huntington harbor, the list of their attempts at stealing more jobs from the Suffolk police unions continues to grow! Prior to September 15th 2008 neither the Suffolk PBA or SOA had done nothing to hurt the Suffolk Deputies, despite your claims, but anything they (Suffolk Police Unions) do to the Deputies after that date they (Deputies) have coming for actively stealing the work of other unions! When you attack someone you should be prepared for when they fight back, and if you thought the Suffolk PBA and SOA would let you steal their jobs and do nothing about it you were sorely mistaken!!

Again you're twisting. You will always only see what you want to see! Such a joke with the spin you put on things! Nice try though. You almost sounded convincing, except we know the REAL story!

[23232]

thats politics in general

Sure, back in the time of Tammany Hall. Never in modern Long island history, have the press and the electorate allowed a law enforcement agency to be gutted of police officers and then staffed with new, civilian, patronage positions on such a large scale.

You can argue until the cows come home, but every day, Long Islanders are reading about more traffic deaths and increasing crime. Maybe it's time to admit that the administration's policies aren't working.

[Unregistered12345]

Sure, back in the time of Tammany Hall. Never in modern Long island history, have the press and the electorate allowed a law enforcement agency to be gutted of police officers and then staffed with new, civilian, patronage positions on such a large scale.

You can argue until the cows come home, but every day, Long Islanders are reading about more traffic deaths and increasing crime. Maybe it's time to admit that the administration's policies aren't working.

pure fear-mongering rubbish union driven dribble

[120109]

Sure, back in the time of Tammany Hall. Never in modern Long island history, have the press and the electorate allowed a law enforcement agency to be gutted of police officers and then staffed with new, civilian, patronage positions on such a large scale.

You can argue until the cows come home, but every day, Long Islanders are reading about more traffic deaths and increasing crime. Maybe it's time to admit that the administration's policies aren't working.

maybe its time for the cops to leave the fire station parking lots and to start doing something

[Scab Hater]

Again you're twisting. You will always only see what you want to see! Such a joke with the spin you put on things! Nice try though. You almost sounded convincing, except we know the REAL story!

It is convincing because it is true!! Put you can try to put whatever spin you want on it, but these are facts!! The Deputies union has discraced themselves, and are an embarassment to all organized labor! In particular, all law enforcement unions! Dont beleive it? Talk to other union reps, i have, NYPD, NYFD, NCPD, all think you are scabs because of your unions actions!!! The Suffolk and Nassau Town and Village PBA's agree too! and have made it clear that they wont be bullied by you!!!!!

[working FDNY]

It is convincing because it is true!! Put you can try to put whatever spin you want on it, but these are facts!! The Deputies union has discraced themselves, and are an embarassment to all organized labor! In particular, all law enforcement unions! Dont beleive it? Talk to other union reps, i have, NYPD, NYFD, NCPD, all think you are scabs because of your unions actions!!! The Suffolk and Nassau Town and Village PBA's agree too! and have made it clear that they wont be bullied by you!!!!!

Hey guys lets just make sure everyday we go home to the ones we love, all the rest is Bullshit . AS you know sometimes that does not happen

[UnregisteredchartersIII]

This must be the line of crap (Lies) you keep feeding the Deputies to keep them supporting their union board. But The truth came out at PERB, The Deputies Union board knew about the plan to take over the highways, and actually participated in it! The DSPBA second VP actually was the one who began assigning Deps to those roads as far back as May of 2007. He testified to that! This is the same guy who tried to bully the Riverhead PD by seting up speed enforcement in front of Riverhead PD when they, without bashing any Deputies, stated at a conference meeting that the Riverhead PBA supported the Suffolk PBA and Suffolk SOA in this issue because they (Suffolk PBA and SOA) originally and have always had those jobs (sunrise and L.I.E). Even if he was ordered to make those assignments, no one from the Deputies union ever called or in any way notified the the Suffolk PBA or SOA that this was happening! Lets also not forget that the Deputies have been setting up speed enforcement in school zones throughout the Suffolk police district, the incident in Central Islip where they let a felon run around for 2 hours without notifieing the 3rd precinct, putting the Sheriffs boat in Huntington harbor, the list of their attempts at stealing more jobs from the Suffolk police unions continues to grow! Prior to September 15th 2008 neither the Suffolk PBA or SOA had done nothing to hurt the Suffolk Deputies, despite your claims, but anything they (Suffolk Police Unions) do to the Deputies after that date they (Deputies) have coming for actively stealing the work of other unions! When you attack someone you should be prepared for when they fight back, and if you thought the Suffolk PBA and SOA would let you steal their jobs and do nothing about it you were sorely mistaken!!

I'm hearing rumblings that the PBA is gonna stack the next Conference meeting in Dec, in order to control the votes to kick out the Deps. Interesting to see how Pat Sinclair is going to handle a little bit of controversy. Interesting to see if the PBA isn't going to be taking notes and keeping score to see what other PBA's are going to stand next to them on this issue. Some of the east end dept.'s have already begun to quiver and shake in regards to accountability. When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

[Unregistered123454]

It is convincing because it is true!! Put you can try to put whatever spin you want on it, but these are facts!! The Deputies union has discraced themselves, and are an embarassment to all organized labor! In particular, all law enforcement unions! Dont beleive it? Talk to other union reps, i have, NYPD, NYFD, NCPD, all think you are scabs because of your unions actions!!! The Suffolk and Nassau Town and Village PBA's agree too! and have made it clear that they wont be bullied by you!!!!!

Maybe to your face they act that way but your "organized labor" has gone to far and are the disgrace!!! selfish f*ck!! get out their and get to work and stop crying whimp.

[Unregistered9984]

I'm hearing rumblings that the PBA is gonna stack the next Conference meeting in Dec, in order to control the votes to kick out the Deps. Interesting to see how Pat Sinclair is going to handle a little bit of controversy. Interesting to see if the PBA isn't going to be taking notes and keeping score to see what other PBA's are going to stand next to them on this issue. Some of the east end dept.'s have already begun to quiver and shake in regards to accountability. When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

who cares? i dont care about the conference anyway so kick me out! when 40 dep jobs were taken from us (district court) you son of bi*tches did not lift a finger, so screw off one way fu8ks how do you like it!!!

[ed the taxpayer]

This must be the line of crap (Lies) you keep feeding the Deputies to keep them supporting their union board. But The truth came out at PERB, The Deputies Union board knew about the plan to take over the highways, and actually participated in it! The DSPBA second VP actually was the one who began assigning Deps to those roads as far back as May of 2007. He testified to that! This is the same guy who tried to bully the Riverhead PD by seting up speed enforcement in front of Riverhead PD when they, without bashing any Deputies, stated at a conference meeting that the Riverhead PBA supported the Suffolk PBA and Suffolk SOA in this issue because they (Suffolk PBA and SOA) originally and have always had those jobs (sunrise and L.I.E). Even if he was ordered to make those assignments, no one from the Deputies union ever called or in any way notified the the Suffolk PBA or SOA that this was happening! Lets also not forget that the Deputies have been setting up speed enforcement in school zones throughout the Suffolk police district, the incident in Central Islip where they let a felon run around for 2 hours without notifieing the 3rd precinct, putting the Sheriffs boat in Huntington harbor, the list of their attempts at stealing more jobs from the Suffolk police unions continues to grow! Prior to September 15th 2008 neither the Suffolk PBA or SOA had done nothing to hurt the Suffolk Deputies, despite your claims, but anything they (Suffolk Police Unions) do to the Deputies after that date they (Deputies) have coming for actively stealing the work of other unions! When you attack someone you should be prepared for when they fight back, and if you thought the Suffolk PBA and SOA would let you steal their jobs and do nothing about it you were sorely mistaken!!


no wonder why so many other agencies don't like them

[Unregisteredfgdf]

no wonder why so many other agencies don't like them

what do you mean ? they do a great job and nobody liked the old hwy buttheads

[notify hempstead]

make Hempstead Police Chief Joe Wing commissioner of suffolk and nassau police he is a lawyer innovator in law enforcement terrace ave program media expert he is the answer

[Unregisscabbie]

who cares? i dont care about the conference anyway so kick me out! when 40 dep jobs were taken from us (district court) you son of bi*tches did not lift a finger, so screw off one way fu8ks how do you like it!!!

You scabed those jobs from the CO's why are you doing prisioner intakes, just another example of being where you shouldn't be...don't remember PBA stopping you from doing it either not our fight there, now you trying to steal our jobs and we are doing something about it..do your job and no one is going to screw with you plain and simple

[Unregistered222220]

You scabed those jobs from the CO's why are you doing prisioner intakes, just another example of being where you shouldn't be...don't remember PBA stopping you from doing it either not our fight there, now you trying to steal our jobs and we are doing something about it..do your job and no one is going to screw with you plain and simple

so much you know, co's never handled pre-arraignment prisoners. even back when 1st dc was at hauppauge. your politics creating a "charter" is the biggest SCABing ever. If I was county exe I would put all you overpaid crybabies in black and save many tax payers $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ get rid of this duplication of service and put it all back to a elected sheriff so that elected official would be accountable to the taxes payers themself not your pac $$$

[MO-RON]

so much you know, co's never handled pre-arraignment prisoners. even back when 1st dc was at hauppauge. your politics creating a "charter" is the biggest SCABing ever. If I was county exe I would put all you overpaid crybabies in black and save many tax payers $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ get rid of this duplication of service and put it all back to a elected sheriff so that elected official would be accountable to the taxes payers themself not your pac $$$

So much you know, the ce cannot even veto the new class of scpos, or have a say in our contract let alone make us deps and reduce our pay

[Unregisteredhidden$$$]

so much you know, co's never handled pre-arraignment prisoners. even back when 1st dc was at hauppauge. your politics creating a "charter" is the biggest SCABing ever. If I was county exe I would put all you overpaid crybabies in black and save many tax payers $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ get rid of this duplication of service and put it all back to a elected sheriff so that elected official would be accountable to the taxes payers themself not your pac $$$

that would have all of you giving back your take home cars.. talk about a waste of taxpayer $$$. wonder why the county didn't give you the job 50 years ago..figured you weren't up to the task???

[depsarentrealpolice]

wonder why the county didn't give you the job 50 years ago..figured you weren't up to the task???

Because they are deps not cops.

simple

[Unregisteredfgg]

Because they are deps not cops.

simple

Correct Deputies are higher in the pecking order than a mere district/municipal police. Thus the whining ??

[wannabeesss]

Correct Deputies are higher in the pecking order than a mere district/municipal police. Thus the whining ??

lol

smaller peckers...

squarer badges...

scabs

[Unregisteredhs]

Correct Deputies are higher in the pecking order than a mere district/municipal police. Thus the whining ??

as evidence by their 17 dwis in 2007

[you dope]

Correct Deputies are higher in the pecking order than a mere district/municipal police. Thus the whining ??

yea thats why so many COPS are taking the dep test

[Unregisteredrth]

yea thats why so many COPS are taking the dep test

they are? how many? I know at least one who realized (except) for the $$) that the pd job aint so great. working with a bunch of backstabbing crybabies being a overpaid first responder.

[Unregisteredweak]

they are? how many? I know at least one who realized (except) for the $$) that the pd job aint so great. working with a bunch of backstabbing crybabies being a overpaid first responder.

Aas opposed to a bunch of backstabbing crybabies being overpaid and NOT responding?

[bolognamaster]

overpaid mayo spreaders?

[you'll be ok]

they are? how many? I know at least one who realized (except) for the $$) that the pd job aint so great. .

The police job isnt for everyone. If you want to be one of the lowest paid leo "police" jobs in the area...BUT not do any police work, stick to being a dep. you have the best of both worlds, a badge and no police work

[tnx 4 the setup]

I always get a chuckle when the deps as a unit of 270 "cops" netted 17 dwis in the same year I had 21 on my own

[Unregisteredpioh]

I always get a chuckle when the deps as a unit of 270 "cops" netted 17 dwis in the same year I had 21 on my own

you must be one of those ex-hwy weenies that the sector cops joke about at the firehouse! to bad those dwi's were sitting outside a bar and locking up your neighbors

[Unregistered984]

I always get a chuckle when the deps as a unit of 270 "cops" netted 17 dwis in the same year I had 21 on my own

i get a chuckle when you losers thing your better than EVERYONE else. on average any dep is as capable as any scpd district cop

[Unregistered===]

i get a chuckle when you losers thing your better than EVERYONE else. on average any dep is as capable as any scpd district cop

capable ? yes of course.
capable means able to do. Doesnt mean has done.

[Unregisteredstfu]

you must be one of those ex-hwy weenies that the sector cops joke about at the firehouse! to bad those dwi's were sitting outside a bar and locking up your neighbors

Who cares? Those are dwis not on the road not running kids/people over.
Get your head out of your ass

[Unregisteredjhg]

Who cares? Those are dwis not on the road not running kids/people over.
Get your head out of your ass

ha ha ha ha, touched a nerve did I. pick the same bars all the time. there's a little problem with that! try hard work and maybe you might get some. loser

[Unregistered1651]

capable ? yes of course.
capable means able to do. Doesnt mean has done.

wow talk about head up the butt syndrome. thats what was said about the hwy. i think there is a little "has done" with great success!

[nextpagein trollhandbook]

i get a chuckle when you losers thing your better than EVERYONE else. on average any dep is as capable as any scpd district cop

Its not a case of us thinking we are better then anyone, its a case of us being better then the posters here give us credit for. Someone bashes us, and uses the deps, the nypd, or some other lea, one of us reply with some factual stat that proves us to be a competent lea.


So of course the next step in the troll stalking manual states " Now that they've replied and posted something that puts them in a good light, claim they are bragging, putting themselves on a pedestal, that they think they are better then everyone else"

And you followed it to a tee

[hahahahaha..]

ha ha ha ha, touched a nerve did I. pick the same bars all the time. there's a little problem with that! try hard work and maybe you might get some. loser

nope, like i said who cares? I'm not the same poster, I work 2 tour and the majority of my dwis are from mvcs ... but it appears I struck your nerve that you had to reply

[yup...]

wow talk about head up the butt syndrome. thats what was said about the hwy. i think there is a little "has done" with great success!

yup, they've increased their parkers stats by 1000%

Where are their dwi #S?

[456lkj]

yup, they've increased their parkers stats by 1000%

Where are their dwi #S?

lol, scpd has it's back against the wall and it is great

[UnregisteredPagano]

i get a chuckle when you losers thing your better than EVERYONE else. on average any dep is as capable as any scpd district cop

I get paid better than anyone else.

[Unregisteredpmjbgtc]

I get paid better than anyone else.

thats all you got and feel everyone else catching up? that is the feeling of parody for all and the end of your whining about how great you are because of your hourly rate. now you will have to work to show how good you are

[UnregisteredPagano]

I'm paid well too.

[amazingposterserrposter]

ha ha ha ha, touched a nerve did I. pick the same bars all the time. there's a little problem with that! try hard work and maybe you might get some. loser

Its fabulous how much time and effort this lonely soul spends trying feebly to get a rise out of anyone posting here.....the effort he puts into it alone makes my day.

[Unregisteredghj]

Its fabulous how much time and effort this lonely soul spends trying feebly to get a rise out of anyone posting here.....the effort he puts into it alone makes my day.

not much effort at all. not as much as you lol

[In the hood looking]

I get paid better than anyone else.

Yes you do, that is why we expect you to act better then the rest of them. All of you correct people for spelling and etc., why not stop it. You get paid for your job, respect it, do not throw it back in our face . The bottom line is stop telling us how much you get paid, I glad for you. But look at todays cost it is not that good, a lot of people make the same if not more. But good for you, so let your PBA guys start to put me down!!

I am in a village, I have not seen one post from them, I have not seen one post from NYSPD, I have not see one post from NCPD, as far on how much they make. Guys stop the tax-payers are not putting up with this , I think you are good people, but it is getting old. Levy will get in next time if you guys keep on doing this

[Unregisteredkjhh]

Yes you do, that is why we expect you to act better then the rest of them. All of you correct people for spelling and etc., why not stop it. You get paid for your job, respect it, do not throw it back in our face . The bottom line is stop telling us how much you get paid, I glad for you. But look at todays cost it is not that good, a lot of people make the same if not more. But good for you, so let your PBA guys start to put me down!!

I am in a village, I have not seen one post from them, I have not seen one post from NYSPD, I have not see one post from NCPD, as far on how much they make. Guys stop the tax-payers are not putting up with this , I think you are good people, but it is getting old. Levy will get in next time if you guys keep on doing this

good post

[UnregisteredKing]

I write the most amount of speeders that go 11 mph over the limit.

[UnregisteredPaul]

We're unable to determine who's a cop or not on these posts. Some will post objectionable material to raise the ire of others and to sway opinion. Shame on anybody for making decisions from this nonsense.

[UnregisteredGIBB]

I write the most amount of speeders that go 11 mph over the limit.

I SPECIALIZE IN 6 MPH...SINCE I'M CERTIFIED + OR - 3 MPH

[Unregisteredissseee]

We're unable to determine who's a cop or not on these posts. Some will post objectionable material to raise the ire of others and to sway opinion. Shame on anybody for making decisions from this nonsense.

Well, you can certainly tell there are a bunch of cops on this report that do post. Look t some of the threads wherethese guys name names and post the intimate going on in particular units. Only cops would know this. And, its an embarrassment to the job, but more so, what an embarassment to themselves. There are obviously a lot of bitter, unfulfilled losers on the job who must be missing a big element in their miserable fuckin lives to have to seek pleasure in trying to air the ongoings in others personal lives. Who ever you are...dude get some counceling! You have a pathetic existance.

[dumbass]

[QUOTE=Unregisteredissseee;330269]get some counceling! QUOTE]

Learn to write or go back to Mexico

[whatsupp]

If you move to throw them out of PC , are you prepared to reimburse the dues that you have collected over the years. You would be denying them the expected retirement benifit.

[5555]

[QUOTE=Unregisteredissseee;330269]get some counceling! QUOTE]

Learn to write or go back to Mexico

There goes another "Racist for Levy!"
BTW, learn how to quote.

[get a real life]

Well, you can certainly tell there are a bunch of cops on this report that do post. Look t some of the threads wherethese guys name names and post the intimate going on in particular units. Only cops would know this. And, its an embarrassment to the job, but more so, what an embarassment to themselves. There are obviously a lot of bitter, unfulfilled losers on the job who must be missing a big element in their miserable fuckin lives to have to seek pleasure in trying to air the ongoings in others personal lives. Who ever you are...dude get some counceling! You have a pathetic existance.

ehhh Yeah people know names, but so do the retards that get pulled over and claim that the last cop that arrested or wrote them is their cousin.
Intimate details? again, ehhh. Unless you work that pct and that squad there is no way of knowing if its true or not. Ive read things here that supposedly happened in my squad while I was working and it didnt.
No doubt some of it could be true, but As bad as that might be, anyone who reads it and cares enough to get as into it as you truly need counseling.

[benifit??]

If you move to throw them out of PC , are you prepared to reimburse the dues that you have collected over the years. You would be denying them the expected retirement benifit.

We'll give them whatever its worth right now...buh bye

[4 we can afford]

If you move to throw them out of PC , are you prepared to reimburse the dues that you have collected over the years. You would be denying them the expected retirement benifit.

The motion is to remove 4 individuals who are union leaders of the Dep's union. If we have to pay them, so be it.

The Conference is not "kicking out" all the Deps. If the individual deps personally choose to resign from the conference as a show of unity with their union management, good for them. If they voluntarily resign, we owe them nothing.

[Trying to be nice]

The motion is to remove 4 individuals who are union leaders of the Dep's union. If we have to pay them, so be it.

The Conference is not "kicking out" all the Deps. If the individual deps personally choose to resign from the conference as a show of unity with their union management, good for them. If they voluntarily resign, we owe them nothing.

What is going to happen when this is all over. Either way, someday Levy will be gone, in 2 or 6 years. What happens then? I know if any of you are asking for help, all will come. I still say it is up to your PC to stand up for his guys , Levy only knows what he is told .

[you dummy]

What is going to happen when this is all over. Either way, someday Levy will be gone, in 2 or 6 years. What happens then? I know if any of you are asking for help, all will come. I still say it is up to your PC to stand up for his guys , Levy only knows what he is told .

And I still say you don't know what you are talking about, and that you should stick to writing reviews if internet porn.

[Unregisteredontreply]

And I still say you don't know what you are talking about, and that you should stick to writing reviews if internet porn.

hes like every other troll, if you reply he'll come back. just ignore him.

[signedstevelevy]

And I still say you don't know what you are talking about, and that you should stick to writing reviews if internet porn.

thats the spin, levy is going to claim dormer told him and he didnt know that dormer was lying
sadly the buck stops at the county execs office.

especially when there are documents ordering the commish to remove the personnel from hiwy, cope, marine, warrants, and the funds from the overtime budget with the moustached ones signature on it.
but hes not responsible.

[FreddieMercury]

It was me. I snuck into little stevies office and used his pen. I hope I didn't cause too much trouble.

[hooklinesinker??]

listen levy hired dormer. he picked him out of any or all possible candidates.
he paid dormer a good salary to run a good police dept. if the spin is going to be that dormer for some unknown decided to screw the dept up, after seeing the crime rate on the rise after the 1st, or 2nd year, he should have sat down with dormer and had him fix the problem.
Dont tell me he didnt know whats going on, every new procedure or order was signed by him. The crime statistics are compiled by scpd, nys, and the fbi among other. The members of his legislature, told him things were getting bad. Voted for a tax increase to hire more cops.

I understand the attempt to put some space between him and dormer. But dont think for a second that if/ when it all comes out, intelligent people are going to buy it

[trying to spin]

. I still say it is up to your PC to stand up for his guys , Levy only knows what he is told .

If it was a one time thing i'd say it was just a guys opinion, but this is the 10th time I've read someone post this. That means you arent stating opinion, but trying to convince others. Because otherwise you wouldnt keep repeating yourself.
So you got the word out. But reading the replies pretty much everyone is seeing thru it.
And putting the responsiblity right back on our county leader

[Not Real]

If it was a one time thing i'd say it was just a guys opinion, but this is the 10th time I've read someone post this. That means you arent stating opinion, but trying to convince others. Because otherwise you wouldnt keep repeating yourself.
So you got the word out. But reading the replies pretty much everyone is seeing thru it.
And putting the responsiblity right back on our county leader

My god, you were the same guys who voted him out , did you think there is some kind of plot going on. Now you are defending Dormer. Read the post it was not Levy going to get Dormer, he loves him and you guy play into it everytime . I hope he stays 6 more years and cuts your job so much all of you go away

[You dummy]

My god, you were the same guys who voted him out , did you think there is some kind of plot going on. Now you are defending Dormer. Read the post it was not Levy going to get Dormer, he loves him and you guy play into it everytime . I hope he stays 6 more years and cuts your job so much all of you go away

You are the clueless one my friend. Nobody is defending Dormer. We all know he is a puppet. We voted him out of the conference because of his actions while in office. What is being pointed out is the spin from Levy's camp trying to distance Levy from Dormer now that the subpeonas are out and there is bad news on the horizon. Levy loves to claim all the good things in this county are his ideas, but as soon as thing turn south, he starts pointing fingers. What will he do when the paper trail leads right to the pen in his pocket? His people (you?) can spin it however you want. You aren't going to fool anybody this time.

[Your man]

You are the clueless one my friend. Nobody is defending Dormer. We all know he is a puppet. We voted him out of the conference because of his actions while in office. What is being pointed out is the spin from Levy's camp trying to distance Levy from Dormer now that the subpeonas are out and there is bad news on the horizon. Levy loves to claim all the good things in this county are his ideas, but as soon as thing turn south, he starts pointing fingers. What will he do when the paper trail leads right to the pen in his pocket? His people (you?) can spin it however you want. You aren't going to fool anybody this time.

Levy loves him so why would he "spin" him, he is not a cop like you who has no respect . You guys hate each other. look at the other posts on this site. I think he gets a big thing out of what you guys think . He is here 2 more years, if not more .

[hope is for the feeble]

My god, you were the same guys who voted him out , did you think there is some kind of plot going on. Now you are defending Dormer. Read the post it was not Levy going to get Dormer, he loves him and you guy play into it everytime . I hope he stays 6 more years and cuts your job so much all of you go away

ohh boy. You hope he stays??????
No one is defending dormer. what is being said is that dormer will be the fall boy for levy if there is negative information revealed during the supoena process. Dormer is loyal to levy like a golden retriever and will take the fall and be grateful for the 6+ years of a great job. He did it when he was a chief, he understands the political game.

As far as "cutting our jobs"...that never happened. Levy cut details, like hwy, and those cops are still working.
Additionally levy has agreed not to cut any more details in the next sweetheart contract that he has worked so hard on.

My man, hope is for those who cant do. Turn that around or stfu

[overplayed and out]

Levy loves him so why would he "spin" him, he is not a cop like you who has no respect . You guys hate each other. look at the other posts on this site. I think he gets a big thing out of what you guys think . He is here 2 more years, if not more .

dormer has been a good and faithful employee. However in the political world, he is there to protect levy. If there is damaging evidence revealed in the hearings, hes going to be gone anyway. So he'll do his best to take the fall and leave levy standing. typical politics.
We "hate each other" And you base this on what is posted here? There is so much complete crap being posted by people with nothing better to do.
If you make your judgements of what is going on in the real world based on this site, you are pretty screwed up.
Get off your fat ass, go out into the sunlight and talk to people.
He is in for 2 years sure, and maybe more, so?
What exactly has he done? What has he done to scpd? Take away hwy? Wow, 50 cops inconvienced
What happened to cope, marine, crime unit, warrants, motorcycles? He lost those battles.

[Unregisterednewjack]

Any word yet on if and when the deps get voted out of the conference? When's that supposed to happen?

[dejavu again]

Any word yet on if and when the deps get voted out of the conference? When's that supposed to happen?

go read posts 38 & 39.

[I'll be there]

I know how I'm going to vote.

[Unregisteredblahh]

You don't get to vote dickk

[I'll be there]

You don't get to vote dickk

oh yes I do.

[Unregistered555]

I'm voting we kick out Jeff!

[fraildreamweaver]

I'm voting we kick out Jeff!

keep dreaming you frail piece of sh!t

[voter frail]

keep dreaming you frail piece of sh!t

trim the fat. vote out FRAILer

[i bet you wont or cant]

trim the fat. vote out FRAILer

If you are more then a troll, which I doubt, at the next meeting make the motion

[chicken little]

If you are more then a troll, which I doubt, at the next meeting make the motion

If he's not a troll, I guarantee he's to much of a pussy to stand up in front of a room full of people and take a stand. It's much easier to stir shit and call people names from behind a keyboard.

[Unregisteredsomeonedid]

If you are more then a troll, which I doubt, at the next meeting make the motion

Someone already did, and they tried to table it...stay tuned!! Vote out gnome boy TJ first!!

[sleeping beauty]

Someone already did, and they tried to table it...stay tuned!! Vote out gnome boy TJ first!!

and then you woke up

[Unregisteredlol!!!]

If you are more then a troll, which I doubt, at the next meeting make the motion

If you are more then a troll?
Thats a stretch

[UnregisteredchartersIII]

Tick Tock Tick Tock Time is counting down till Wednesday's vote. Won't that be a merry Xmas party? Hearing all sorts of rumors that certain officials are polling some of the towns and villages to see how the vote will go. Does Las Vegas have a betting line on the outcome? This is so exciting isn't it?

[Unregisteredwell?]

well?

[scabbbs]

scabbbbs are out good guys are innnnnn

[Unregistered345]

Can anyone verify a rumor that the conference president closed the meeting and threw out the PBA? I'm just hearing this now from a few of the guys. I guess vinny has more power then we even imagined.

[feel vinnies power]

Can anyone verify a rumor that the conference president closed the meeting and threw out the PBA? I'm just hearing this now from a few of the guys. I guess vinny has more power then we even imagined.

actually vinnie is the pba prez now...really, it happened

[coup de demarco]

Vinnie is now the Reigning emperor of lilliput, the former Golbasto Momaren Evlame Gurdilo Shefin Mully Ully Gue, was found an apparent victim of a hit and run on the eway...only evidence is the side mirror of a charger, and a phone book, similiar to the one vinny sits on....

[Unregisteredkkkkk]

You're hearing this from a few guys at 4:52 A.m. What are you all blowing each other? I was at the meeting. Never heard anything about it except was told off the cuff the Pba was told "you got nothin kid". I guess it's one big happy family. time to move on.

[Unregistered345=troll]

You're hearing this from a few guys at 4:52 A.m. What are you all blowing each other? I was at the meeting. Never heard anything about it except was told off the cuff the Pba was told "you got nothin kid". I guess it's one big happy family. time to move on.

not a few guys one troll
and judging from the repsonses he got he wont have that satisfied feeling today until Nick jr is on.

[small potatos]

Can anyone verify a rumor that the conference president closed the meeting and threw out the PBA? I'm just hearing this now from a few of the guys. I guess vinny has more power then we even imagined.

"Threw out"?? Not quite what happened. Don't get carried away with yourself deputy troll. We will see what happens as this unfolds further. Just remember who the big fish in the pond is. The conference could survive without the 200 or so dues paying deps, but if 1600 dues paying scpd walk out the door, you can explain to the retirees at the monthly meeting why dinner is now franks & beans and day old bologna sandwiches.

[Unregisteredlol]

Some of you guys are so fukin full of yourselves. No one gives a shit enough to pull out. What PJ didn't get his way , now he's going to look to SPEAK on behalf of the all members. We ain't going anywhere. No one below the board gives a sh*t.

[lol too funny]

Some of you guys are so fukin full of yourselves. No one gives a shit enough to pull out. What PJ didn't get his way , now he's going to look to SPEAK on behalf of the all members. We ain't going anywhere. No one below the board gives a sh*t.

Are you really saying that if the pba is kicked out of the p.c. that the rank/file will continue paying dues???

[Unregisteredbutchiep]

Are you really saying that if the pba is kicked out of the p.c. that the rank/file will continue paying dues???why not? we've been raped by the pba over the years and they just line their own pockets with our dues money. what's another $3.00 a paycheck?

[Unregisteredgojustgo]

why not? we've been raped by the pba over the years and they just line their own pockets with our dues money. what's another $3.00 a paycheck?

So stop paying your dues, leave the union, refuse any further compensation.
This way you arent subject to their abuse

[trollalert]

why not? we've been raped by the pba over the years and they just line their own pockets with our dues money. what's another $3.00 a paycheck?

now I know you're not a cop. Getting a cop to give up $3 bucks a check is like trying to get a muslim to eat a BLT.

[Unregistered345]

thats funny....im stealing that

[Unregisterednobiggie]

Can anyone verify a rumor that the conference president closed the meeting and threw out the PBA? I'm just hearing this now from a few of the guys. I guess vinny has more power then we even imagined.

PBA was told they cant kick out everyone that hurts their feelings, so they walked out and spent your dues someplace else. Waaaaaaaaaaa

[Unregisteredsmilee]

now I know you're not a cop. Getting a cop to give up $3 bucks a check is like trying to get a muslim to eat a BLT.

We give your wife 3 bucks, of course thats from 20 of us

[independent thought]

We give your wife 3 bucks, of course thats from 20 of us

another wife joke. how original. I saw that response coming up 3rd Ave in a taxi.

[hand in hand]

another wife joke. how original. I saw that response coming up 3rd Ave in a taxi.

kid please, cheap cops jokes are a dime a dozen. dont act like it deserves better.

[UnregisteredchartersIII]

Tick Tock Tick Tock Time is counting down till Wednesday's vote. Won't that be a merry Xmas party? Hearing all sorts of rumors that certain officials are polling some of the towns and villages to see how the vote will go. Does Las Vegas have a betting line on the outcome? This is so exciting isn't it?

Well, well, well. Looks like Pat Sinclair stuck a fork in the PBA's master plan to throw out the deps. Heard from some of the guys in the room that you could hear a pin drop when he closed the meeting without PJ getting his motion voted on. Chalk another one up for the PBA. Add this to the conservative party loss, the loss of the LIE & Sunrise. Looks like the PBA isn't such a big bully after all now does it?

[Unregisteredrespect]

I have a lot of respect for the guy. He looked into things and called it as he saw it, even if it wasn't of popular opinion of some of his peers. Pat, it's good to know there are still some stand up guys on this job. Your integrity is duly noted!! There are alot of new guys on the job who don't know you..you showed them something about leading vs/ being lead.

[Unregisteredimahater]

I have a lot of respect for the guy. He looked into things and called it as he saw it, even if it wasn't of popular opinion of some of his peers. Pat, it's good to know there are still some stand up guys on this job. Your integrity is duly noted!! There are alot of new guys on the job who don't know you..you showed them something about leading vs/ being lead.very well said. i tip my cap to you Buster.

[Unregisteredwaytogo]

Kudos to Pat, finally a man who has the courage to stand behind his convictions. This is exactly the type of person we need to lead us. The man gets things done by being a professional, NOT by being a goon like our current board!
PJ - back to the drawing board!!! If you need any kleenex for your tears look in the back of Jeff's Mercedes. He keeps them there to wipe the Taco Bell sauce off his steering wheel!

[Good job Pat.]

Pat Sinclair did what was right last night, no question about it. I'm not sure what our Board was thinking? It is difficult to say why our Board saw the need to throw Deps out of the Conference. I felt like this was just PJ sharpening his axe, and he looked boorish and juvenile in that forum. Is this what we want from our future Board leadership? I believe it’s time to remove some Board members. Jeff is a lifer who has given us countless great benefits and even better contracts. Noel is a smart guy who will be invaluable to us in the future. Even though I disagree with our Boards stance on blocking the Deps Bomb Dog in the Legislature, I applaud Noel’s handling of the matter. He was very prepared, knowledgeable and left very little wiggle room for the Dep bosses to work with. But PJ has absolutely got to go! This guy is a complete buffoon and appears to lack enough intelligence to know when it’s time to shut the f-ck up! He doesn’t seem to learn at all. I am not writing this based on what I’ve heard, only on what I’ve seen firsthand. This guy is an immature person with very few redeeming qualities. Let’s hope somebody has the hootzpa to run against him in the next cycle.

[Unregisteredfunest]

Kudos to Pat, finally a man who has the courage to stand behind his convictions. This is exactly the type of person we need to lead us. The man gets things done by being a professional, NOT by being a goon like our current board!
PJ - back to the drawing board!!! If you need any kleenex for your tears look in the back of Jeff's Mercedes. He keeps them there to wipe the Taco Bell sauce off his steering wheel!

Guy, that is some funny shhit...I'm laaughing my balls off!!

[baloney dinners]

"Threw out"?? Not quite what happened. Don't get carried away with yourself deputy troll. We will see what happens as this unfolds further. Just remember who the big fish in the pond is. The conference could survive without the 200 or so dues paying deps, but if 1600 dues paying scpd walk out the door, you can explain to the retirees at the monthly meeting why dinner is now franks & beans and day old bologna sandwiches.


LOL, Great post. If the PBA and it's members withdraw the conference will crumble. WTF is the conference good for anyway?

[not a dad]

LOL, Great post. If the PBA and it's members withdraw the conference will crumble. WTF is the conference good for anyway?

i've been pullin out since 1990, it's worked for me. PULL OUT OF THE CONFERENCE !!!!! PULL OUT AND DUMP A LOAD ON THEIR CHIN. is the party at claudio's that good?

[UnregisteredHAHA888]

yOU GUYS ARE THE BIGGEST BUNCH OF F'IN BABIES...BYE BYE. i BET YOU'LL NEVER GET 100% COMPLIANCY. PJ, YOU DONE WITH THAT BOX OF TISSUES YET!

[UnregisteredCashCab]

yOU GUYS ARE THE BIGGEST BUNCH OF F'IN BABIES...BYE BYE. i BET YOU'LL NEVER GET 100% COMPLIANCY. PJ, YOU DONE WITH THAT BOX OF TISSUES YET!

But I'm paid well.

I made 160K this year.

[Unregistered>>>]

then stop your bitchin and complaining

[FactsIsFacts]

I have a lot of respect for the guy. He looked into things and called it as he saw it, even if it wasn't of popular opinion of some of his peers. Pat, it's good to know there are still some stand up guys on this job. Your integrity is duly noted!! There are alot of new guys on the job who don't know you..you showed them something about leading vs/ being lead.

I like Pat personally and have always found him to be a gentleman and a professional. In this case however I think he was way off.
If there was no problem voting Dormer and Demarco out of the conference for their actions, why is it a problem now for these deps? The motion was based on the fact that the deputies in question testified at PERB in an effort to take over jobs performed by a fellow agency in the conference. Their testimony showed that there was an active conspiracy between the County Exec and the DSPBA to take jobs from another union under contract with the county. Their actions went directly against article 1 of the conference bylaws. Buster denied the vote because he knew the 4 deps were going to get voted out. I dont know why he did it, whether he owed people some favors or was afraid of losing the dues of the deps. Either way he denied the board of directors, who represent the membership, the ability to vote on the issue, and thats a problem.
Buster gave his position on the matter in the statement he made at the meeting two months ago. I give him credit for that. But using his position to prevent others from expressing their opinions is unacceptable.

[Unregisterednofacts]

first of all you are incorrect. the 4 persons in question NEVER took the stand in perb. The only persons who testified were called on by the county, not the deps. And now the board is insulted they didn't get to vote. well, if that's not the pot calling the kettle black. Seems our board, who seems to coesxist on the conference board always make decisions on behalf of the members. how do you like it? You DO NOT KNOW THE FACTS!! you have either been misled or are so far up jeff's ass that you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on your ass. Kudos to buster. He is a true leader and has character. He is one of the few who has acturally earned the respect of his peers through all of this mess.Do yourself a favor and get a hold of the minutes from the perb hearing when available. You will see for yourself you are way off base!!

[Unregisteredjoke]

"Buster gave his position on the matter in the statement he made at the meeting two months ago. I give him credit for that. But using his position to prevent others from expressing their opinions is unacceptable."

You have got to be kidding me. This is all the PBA board does all the time to us. what a fukin joke that statement is!!!!!

[Unregisteredwooowww]

I like Pat personally and have always found him to be a gentleman and a professional. In this case however I think he was way off.
If there was no problem voting Dormer and Demarco out of the conference for their actions, why is it a problem now for these deps? The motion was based on the fact that the deputies in question testified at PERB in an effort to take over jobs performed by a fellow agency in the conference. Their testimony showed that there was an active conspiracy between the County Exec and the DSPBA to take jobs from another union under contract with the county. Their actions went directly against article 1 of the conference bylaws. Buster denied the vote because he knew the 4 deps were going to get voted out. I dont know why he did it, whether he owed people some favors or was afraid of losing the dues of the deps. Either way he denied the board of directors, who represent the membership, the ability to vote on the issue, and thats a problem.
Buster gave his position on the matter in the statement he made at the meeting two months ago. I give him credit for that. But using his position to prevent others from expressing their opinions is unacceptable.

Wow, you make it sound as though the dspba has sooo much input and power. What the hell has the scpba been doing then? Have another drink PJ!

[yyyuuukkkeyeyey]

Is PJ still involved with that sloppy Diane Pig, no pun....[I] meant to say that Diane SLOB.

[Unregisteredjkroll]

Is PJ still involved with that sloppy Diane Pig, no pun....[I] meant to say that Diane SLOB.hey dipshit! i'm no fan of pj and think he deserves every bit of abuse he gets on this website but leave families and spouses out of this. show a little class man. not cool.

[phil/ 710]

hey dipshit! i'm no fan of pj and think he deserves every bit of abuse he gets on this website but leave families and spouses out of this. show a little class man. not cool.

why should this thread be any different? who made you the scwartz police? otj spouses appear to be fair game due to the poor choices they've made... oh yeah, go fuck yourself.

[newBoysHere]

Is PJ still involved with that sloppy Diane Pig, no pun....[I] meant to say that Diane SLOB.


She is so fat I can smell her a mile away.

[yourmomma]

She is so fat I can smell her a mile away.


Don't talk about your momma, not cool man,not cool.

[Traffic Judges]

Why are The TVB judges on the side of the scpd?

[henryherman]

Is PJ still involved with that sloppy Diane Pig, no pun....[I] meant to say that Diane SLOB.

lol,,, you said what a lot of people are thinking!

[areukiding]

Why are The TVB judges on the side of the scpd?

because they know the defendant is lying

[BATMAN]

because they know the defendant is lying

I NEED YOU IN ME AND TI FINUSH IN JAKE

[Unregisteredwaytogo]

Kudos to Pat, finally a man who has the courage to stand behind his convictions. This is exactly the type of person we need to lead us. The man gets things done by being a professional, NOT by being a goon like our current board!
PJ - back to the drawing board!!! If you need any kleenex for your tears look in the back of Jeff's Mercedes. He keeps them there to wipe the Taco Bell sauce off his steering wheel!

Heard from one of the guys that the PBA is again trying to kick the Deputies out of the conference. Any truth to that rumor?

[PJ ? You again?]

Heard from one of the guys that the PBA is again trying to kick the Deputies out of the conference. Any truth to that rumor?

PJ, go back to porking your girlfriend behind your wife's back and stay out of politics - you suck at it man!