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01-04-2005, 05:33 AM
The subject of issuing a ticket for a violation not committed in an officer's presence came up today.
Certain departments within the state (NYSP for one) will issue a ticket to a motorist for failure to yield the right of way, failure to keep left or failure to stop for red TSL as part of an accident investigation.
Under the CPL , arrests (a summons is in lieu of arrest) can only be made for petty offenses when they're committed in the officer's presence (with the exception in the VTL for DWI and Leaving the Scene).
What's the authority for issuing these tickets? Nassau doesn't do it, Suffolk just started,NYPD doesn't.

Joseph
01-04-2005, 06:37 PM
The subject of issuing a ticket for a violation not committed in an officer's presence came up today.


Here's a question for you. I manage a full service gas station. Two weeks ago one of my cashiers had a problem with a customer who ended up reaching over the counter and smacking my cashier in the head.

Thirty seconds after my employee was slapped, a police officer happens walk to into the store and my employee immediately tells him he was just assaulted.

The officer tells my employee that unless he sustained an injury that this was not an assault. The officer told my employee the man committed an harrassment and the police cannot do anything unless they personally witness the harrassment.

My employee offered to let the officer view the video surveillance tape of the incident and the officer said that was not good enough. The officer said he had to be there and witness the slap.

I'd like to know why the police can't arrest a person who was caught on video tape slapping another person. I viewed the video and audio tape of how the officer handled this matter and got the impression the officer did not want to get involved. He also didn't seem to happy when my employee charged him for his coffee.

I called my attorney and he said I should send a copy of the video to the police commisioner and make a complaint against the officer.

Anybody have an opinion about this?

Blue Blooded
01-04-2005, 07:44 PM
The officer was absolutely right. Unless there is a physical injury there is no assault. It is just harassment, which is a violation. NYS CPL states that we cannot make an arrest for a violation unless it is committed in our presence. Showing a videotape doesn't constitute being in our presence. If the perp was still at the scene then your employee may have effected a civilian arrest but if the subject was gone then all the officer can do was make a report. I think you need a better attorney, one who is familiar with the law.

Joseph
01-04-2005, 08:06 PM
If the perp was still at the scene then your employee may have effected a civilian arrest but if the subject was gone then all the officer can do was make a report. I think you need a better attorney, one who is familiar with the law.

They guy was still on the scene and the officer did not inform my employee he could have made an arrest...and the officer did not make a report, even though my employee requested that one be made. CYA.

whatever!!!!!!!!!
01-04-2005, 09:06 PM
then at band camp.................
So you're going to modify the story as you go along?

do the right thing!
01-04-2005, 10:25 PM
I called my attorney and he said I should send a copy of the video to the police commisioner and make a complaint against the officer.

If you have a video tape of a police officer refusing to take a report for this incident I would strongly suggest you write the police commish. He should know that this officer is not doing his job!

do the right thing!!!
01-05-2005, 08:11 AM
and then at band camp.....
This stuff is too funny

band camp
01-05-2005, 08:44 AM
i was in that store the cop received a secret signal for a priority 1 call had to leave right away, by the time he got back the store was closed.

PBA Attorney
01-05-2005, 02:39 PM
where on Gods green earth does it say an officer has to give a report for a incident on demand? Nowhere. call 911.
If for example he is out on a personal, he certainly is not obligated to take reports.
If he is on special assignment and is going for a cup of coffee he isnt going to take a report.
If he isnt a patrol officer, or a patrol officer on special assignment, he might not even have paperwork.
Go ahead call the Dept. what do you thinks going to happen?
By the way you must have a very special security, system not only does it have sound, you're able to do close-ups and read the emotion on the cops face.lol

PBA member
01-07-2005, 03:38 AM
''If for example he is out on a personal, he certainly is not obligated to take reports.

Are you sure? I believe the commissioner and his supervisors would feel otherwise''
yes. If the officer so chooses, he may radio it in. Otherwise 911 is a free call.

''Does the Suffolk or Nassau PD's have a policy for referring the complaint, not the complainant''
''the tape most certainly captured a cop not doing his job. ''

Frankly if this guy was anything but a patrol officer currently on patrol, there is a very good chance hes not carrying any paper work in regards to patrol work and therefore unable to do that job.

miffed
01-07-2005, 04:29 AM
If the officer so chooses, he may radio it in. Otherwise 911 is a free call.

I am glad to know public service oriented officers like yourself are on the job. Your arrogance amuses me.

PBA Member
01-07-2005, 04:58 AM
Thanks, I found this ''incident'' very amusing. I figured once it was found as the joke we all know it is, it can be put to bed.

paul e
01-07-2005, 05:15 AM
Does the Suffolk or Nassau PD's have a policy for referring the complaint, not the complainant?

I must have missed the answer to this question. Maybe the post was deleted? Is there an informed source lurking about who could answer this question?

YOU MISSED IT
01-07-2005, 05:19 AM
i'll repeat it;
Frankly if this guy was anything but a patrol officer currently on patrol, there is a very good chance hes not carrying any paper work in regards to patrol work and therefore unable to do that job.

paul e
01-07-2005, 08:40 PM
Does the Suffolk or Nassau PD's have a policy for referring the complaint, not the complainant?

I must have missed the answer to this question. Maybe the post was deleted? Is there an informed source lurking about who could answer this question?

Again, is it possible to get a straight answer to a straight question?

I would like to know if the Nassau or Suffolk PD's have a policy of referring a citizen who wants to make a complaint about a crime, to the precinct of occurrence OR does the officer HAVE TO TAKE THE REPORT at the time and place where the citizen reports the incident and then insure the citizen's complaint is referred to the appropriate precinct?

off joe bolton
01-07-2005, 09:39 PM
Do you really expect a real answer? In case you couldn't tell, you're not dealing with brain surgeons here.

BLUE MAN
01-07-2005, 11:26 PM
DO YOU THINK YOU COULD MEET ME AT THE FIREHOUSE AND ILL TAKE THE REPORT THEIR.AFTER MY MEAL BREAK OF COURSE.

little toe surgeon
01-08-2005, 02:09 AM
Do you really expect a real answer? In case you couldn't tell, you're not dealing with brain surgeons here.

You will NEVER get a straight answer out of a cop. They are ALL paranoid and automatically think you are trying to jam one of them up when you ask questions like this.

Does the Suffolk or Nassau PD's have a policy for referring the complaint, not the complainant?

one mo' time
01-08-2005, 03:32 AM
This time I'll go slower and explain it more simply;
If you are talking to a police officer, currently on duty,that has the ability to take a report, in that he has all required paperwork,In this case it would be an incident report and a supporting deposition.Then he could take the report. If he is on a special assigment, he probably would not be able to help you out.
If he is on a Hq only operation,or under radio silence, or working on a different radio band that dispatch isnt monitoring, or not carrying a radio,Or has any orders not to pick up any calls, this imaginary incident, with the zoom security camera and all the bells and whistles and clowns would not be reported to dispatch.
Other than true Domestics and incidents involving injuries, There is no rule in ANY police dept. that states an officer MUST take a report when responding to a 911 call, let alone a walk-up. That is a courtesy, HQ would like a officer to notify dispatch of a walk up, but as long as the officer has a reason for not doing so, thats ok.There isnt even any sort of response time requirement for calls. The police agencies are'nt '' brain surgeons'', but are not going to set themselves up for a law suit every time it takes a Police Officer more than 5 minutes to respond to a call.

bottom-line
01-08-2005, 05:10 AM
no policy i've ever been informed of. we do it as a courtesy for the good people, but reserve the right to refuse.
if you walk into my pct to fill out a report from a criminal incident in another area scpd covers,i'd probably do it for you. but remember it will sit at our pct for a tour until a boss reads it. then it will be sent via our inter-office mail to hq, then sorted and sent to the right pct, then sent to the right dept. before it is assigned. eta 1 week, assuming no one loses it, then, i'd have to do it over. we usually advise someone of this delay, prior to the interview.

paul e
01-08-2005, 05:13 AM
This time I'll go slower and explain it more simply;

If you are talking to a police officer, currently on duty,that has the ability to take a report, in that he has all required paperwork,In this case it would be an incident report and a supporting deposition.Then he could take the report.

So what you are saying is that according to your training in the Suffolk County Police Academy, when I enter Suffolk's 3rd Precinct Station House to report a crime that occurred in Suffolk's 6th Precinct, the officer (aka Public Servant) in Suffolk's 3rd Precinct Station House MUST take my report and refer it to the 6th Precinct...instead of making me drive to the 6th Precinct to report the crime?

Am I interpreting your post correctly?

Other than true Domestics and incidents involving injuries, There is no rule in ANY police dept. that states an officer MUST take a report when responding to a 911 call, let alone a walk-up.

So what you are saying is that if a female calls the police to report being repeatedly stalked and harrassed by a stranger, you as a police officer have absolutely no duty or obligation to record her complaint? No wonder crime is down on Long Island...because according to you, unless someone is injured, the police have no duty or obligation to record citizen's complaints, even though the citizen's complaint involves offenses defined in the NYS Penal Law. The same NYS Penal Law that you as a police officer swore an oath to enforce.

So the next time my pocket gets picked at the Smith Haven Mall, according to you Officer Suffolk PD, I should not even bother calling the police to report the theft?..unless, I am injured during the unlawful taking of my property?

When you wrote, "let alone a walk-up," do you mean if I call the police from my home to report a theft, the police officer who is assigned to investigate my 911 call has absolutely no duty to exit his patrol car and walk up to my door to make inquiries about my complaint?

Does the Suffolk County Police Department train it's officers that when responding to a citizen's complaint, the officer should remain in his patrol car until approached by the citizen who requested police assitance?

That is a courtesy, HQ would like a officer to notify dispatch of a walk up, but as long as the officer has a reason for not doing so, thats ok.

Perhaps you might be kind enough to mention some of the reasons that police officers commonly use to explain why they did not exit their partol car to speak with a citizen who called 911 and requested police services?

There isnt even any sort of response time requirement for calls. The police agencies are'nt '' brain surgeons'', but are not going to set themselves up for a law suit every time it takes a Police Officer more than 5 minutes to respond to a call.

Why did you feel the need to include this comment in your reply. These words have absolutely NOTHING to do with the original question. Are you in the habit of blowing smoke? Or did you write the above comment to distract us from the original topic?

bottom-line
01-08-2005, 05:24 AM
if you walk into the 3rd pct you talk to the officer that works there, not to me on this web-page.
again there is no rule that forces an officer to take a report. if he chooses not to, he'd better be able to articulate a reason.
in our world, a walk-up is a person THAT WALKS UP TO YOU while you, the officer, are doing something else. doesnt matter if you are in a car, horse, boat, or standing.
sorry im not a robot, just relaying information. the reality is if you are calling and we dont get to you, or if you ''walk up'' to us and we dont take a report we probably are doing something else.

SEMANTICS
01-08-2005, 05:36 AM
In theory, a cop can go his whole career, after his probationery period, without ever filling a report for anyone, writing a summons, or making a arrest. In reality this would never happen. But bottom-line is right, as long as the p.o.s have a legit reason.
As far as reporting a crime in the 6th at the 3rd, the 6th might even refuse it, or require you to appear, depending on the nature, to talk to the investigatory unit assigned.

Gimme Me A Break
01-08-2005, 07:58 AM
In theory, a cop can go his whole career, after his probationery period, without ever filling a report for anyone, writing a summons, or making a arrest. In reality this would never happen.

You must be very proud of yourself. It takes a particularly peculiar type of person to come out in public and discuss theories that they realize have no merit.

I think people on the WWW refer to people like you as Trolls. In real life some refer to people like you as "cops."

no breaks
01-08-2005, 05:32 PM
opinions are like butts everyone has one. and no one wants to hear anyone elses

hedgehog
01-08-2005, 08:07 PM
You explained it well, but that sounds like the most inefficient way to handle information I've ever heard. Do you guys use e-mail? Computers? Faxes? You guys sound like you're still using carrier pigeons.

bottom-line
01-09-2005, 03:20 AM
A faxed incident report is not acceptable as a legal document. likewise any statement, or supporting deposition.
While I never heard of such a thing, as far never being liable to answering a call, I think the point behind that is very simple. The original pretend scenario was a bit far fetched, intentionally to prove a point, but if a officer doesnt entertain a report from a civilian while he is working there must be a reason. I personally have refused reports from people where there was no merit or a issue of validity to their story.

Ditto Head
01-11-2005, 03:59 PM
Paul E watched too many episods of Miami Vice, Adam 12, Hill Street Blues and NYPD Blue. He may have taken a few classes at a community college and even been a security guard. Now he is an expert on police procedure and can tell the police how to do their jobs. The whole scenerio he described would have been written up as a lost property and he would have been sent away. He was the same guy posting as Suffolk Resident who had the long discussion on discretion. He is a fool.

Sergio Garcia O'Reilly
01-12-2005, 05:52 AM
no policy i've ever been informed of. we do it as a courtesy for the good people, but reserve the right to refuse.
if you walk into my pct to fill out a report from a criminal incident in another area scpd covers,i'd probably do it for you. but remember it will sit at our pct for a tour until a boss reads it. then it will be sent via our inter-office mail to hq, then sorted and sent to the right pct, then sent to the right dept. before it is assigned. eta 1 week, assuming no one loses it, then, i'd have to do it over. we usually advise someone of this delay, prior to the interview.

Great procedure. It's a lot more streamline than simply faxing it.

If what you wrote is true, that is just another reason to think cops arent that smart.

Blue Blooded
01-12-2005, 06:55 AM
Speaking of not being smart. Maybe you are illiterate too. If you read what was written earlier you would know that a faxed copy is not acceptable as a legal document. If you are going to live your life cutting and pasting, why don't you go the extra yard and read everything. Dopey.

200D0T35
01-12-2005, 08:35 AM
you cannot request a warrant or issue a criminal summons, or make a arrest based on a photo copy of a original incident report, or a photocopy of a sworn statement of the victim.
it has to be the original. the original statement is signed in original on each of 4 carbon copies. each of those copies go to the respective depts.

ignorance is bliss
01-12-2005, 08:57 AM
Why explain anything to this lurker? Let him sit in the dark with his compaq, searching the web for articles to cut and paste.

O/T
01-12-2005, 11:47 AM
Hey if you want, I could take the report to the appropriate command at the end of my tour, hand deliver it to the Detective myself, I'd be sure to be careful going and coming, 5 mph under the speed limit, stop for all yellow lights. If I saw anything remotely like a d/m, stop and render aid.lol

Bashing the Messenger
01-13-2005, 03:38 AM
Paul E watched too many episods of Miami Vice, Adam 12, Hill Street Blues and NYPD Blue. He may have taken a few classes at a community college and even been a security guard. Now he is an expert on police procedure and can tell the police how to do their jobs. The whole scenerio he described would have been written up as a lost property and he would have been sent away. He was the same guy posting as Suffolk Resident who had the long discussion on discretion. He is a fool.

You did a great job of bashing Paul E while at the same time ignoring the issues he addressed. Let me guess? You're a cop?

01-13-2005, 06:21 AM
The gas station attendent took my $20 for only $15. worth of gas. when I asked him wheres my change he claimed he didn't speak English then ushered me off the premises. I drove over to a cop sitting in the next parking lot who appeared to be bullshitting to a man in a regular car. I tell the cop what happened and he tells me "So maybe he doesn't speak English" and does nothing to offer assistance and didn't care that it was my last $20.

Bottom line I was robbed and the lazy cop did nothing.

A week later I go back to the gas station just to see if the guy spoke english. Of course did. Was it too late to make a report and would I be humiliated by asking a cop to {{gasp}} do his friggen job?

I must say there are more good than bad cops who handle calls no matter how bizzarre they may seem, in professional manner. (as opposed to the idiot sitting in his car that day who spends the taxpayers money making his brown eyes blue no matter how fake they looked :lol: Ugggh)

GUEST!
01-13-2005, 07:29 AM
"A week later I go back to the gas station just to see if the guy spoke english. Of course did. Was it too late to make a report and would I be humiliated by asking a cop to {{gasp}} do his friggen job?"

Do you have any idea what so ever what you are talking about? Obviouslly not! This is considered a civil matter and does not fall under the jursdiction of what we as police officers are capable of enforcing. We can not determine what the gas station attendant's culpable mental state was...Did he intentioanlly take your $20 in an attempt to deprive you of the same....probably not. Police officer's do not exist to be bullies and make idle threats to individuals whom you believe, in your obviouslly uneducated and biased opinion, committed a wrongful act. If you have a problem with the system, bash the system, not the police who are not given legal authority to assist you. If your $5 is worth taking the day off from work go to 4th district court and file a small claims suit against this individual/business; And maybe it's easier to go somewhere else next time them waste everyione's time over this nonesense!

play skool
01-13-2005, 08:11 AM
''You did a great job of bashing Paul E while at the same time ignoring the issues he addressed. Let me guess? You're a cop?''
The issues were not only addressed, they were run into the ground. Its a dead issue, frankly it was dead before it started.
''Bottom line I was robbed and the lazy cop did nothing.''
Civil dispute, call their management next time request them to pull their register and see if there is a 5.00 overage. People out here have to start learning how to handle themselves. Enough with the Police handling all your confrontations for you.
Fyi, a robbery is when someone forcibly takes property from you, either by threat, intimidation, or physical force.
Enough with the pretend law questions. Just because you can call the cops for anything under the sun and we will show up, eventually, doesnt make it a criminal matter.

transplant
01-13-2005, 10:40 AM
I am shocked at the things out here that people call the cops for. Traffic lights running slow, meanwhile its rush hour at 347/97. Branch in the street, get out and move it, or call the town.
Kids hanging out on your corner, go find their parents!
Customer dispute, ask for the manager.
Someone flipped you the bird for driving too slow/fast, cutting them off, learn your lesson.
Neighbors tree is shedding leaves on your property, clean them or talk to him/her like a grownup...maybe thats the problem, not enough adults, people forgot how to behave or never learned.
No I'm not a cop, I moved here from Arizona, where people actually know how to communicate with each other, and yes I am thinking of moving back.

curious resident
01-13-2005, 04:03 PM
I have a question.

If for the purpose of reporting a crime, I walk into any police precinct on Long Island, is the officer who takes my report going to ask me to sign the report he prepared in regard to my allegation?

01-13-2005, 04:15 PM
People out here have to start learning how to handle themselves.

Ain't going to happen. I just received a tax bill that tells me I am paying hundreds of dollars a year for police services.

If I have a problem you can bet your bottom dollar I am going to call the police to assist me. And while I realize most cops could care less about my problem, I am still going to call them...at least if I do not get satisfaction for my problem, I can be entertained by an officer who will in all probability worm and squiggle his way out of doing his job properly.

01-13-2005, 04:28 PM
Police officer's do not exist to be bullies and make idle threats

Unless of course it was one of their own family members who was ripped off by the non english speaking gas station attendant.

Blue Blooded
01-13-2005, 07:09 PM
Guest, you are a complete moron. Don't think you are hurting the police dept by calling 911 everytime your neighbor's dog barks. The only people you are truly hurting are the people who really do need the police because they have an emergency like a violent domestic, a serious MVA, or a person in cardiac arrest. It is fools like you that tie up the police on 911 calls for complete and utter nonsense. Hopefully nobody gets hurt just because you pay taxes and feel you are entitled to call the police whenever you have a problem that you are too much of a baby or a jerk to handle yourself.

Pretty Pink Plasma
01-13-2005, 08:04 PM
]Guest, you are a complete moron.

No doubt!

Don't think you are hurting the police dept by calling 911 everytime your neighbor's dog barks.

These damn citizens and homeowners have some nerve. Just because there are laws on the books prohibiting unnecessary noise after a certain hour, they think it is the duty of the police to enforce those laws.
People like this are very selfish.

I work nites and need to let my dog out in the yard when I get home. I'm sorry his barking disturbs your sleep but that's life.

lifeintheweb
01-13-2005, 08:19 PM
''I can be entertained by an officer who will in all probability worm and squiggle his way out of doing his job properly.''
And I'm sure the officer enjoys beating you at your own game, that being using other people to do what you, a person claiming to be an adult, seem incapable of, talking to others.

wasting your time
01-13-2005, 08:21 PM
These damn citizens and homeowners have some nerve. Just because there are laws on the books prohibiting unnecessary noise after a certain hour, they think it is the duty of the police to enforce those laws.
those are so-called town ordinances, not county or state laws. you're supposed to be calling the town, cops do not do barking dogs, they just drive by and report the call unfounded.

maybe???
01-13-2005, 08:23 PM
I have a question.

If for the purpose of reporting a crime, I walk into any police precinct on Long Island, is the officer who takes my report going to ask me to sign the report he prepared in regard to my allegation?
depends on the crime, where it happened and who will ultimately be handling it.

confused in EM
01-13-2005, 08:34 PM
The only people you are truly hurting are the people who really do need the police because they have an emergency like a violent domestic, a serious MVA, or a person in cardiac arrest.

Do we hire and pay police for the sole purpose of responding to emergencies? Do the people whose nights are being disrupted by a neighbor who refuses to obey the law deserve equal protection under the law…and do the police have a sworn duty to provide that protection to people being victimized by a barking dog? Or should the police simply hang out in their patrol cars waiting to respond to emergencies?

I’ve read on this board where various police officers claim their job requires them to be familiar with a long laundry list of offenses and crimes. I’ve also read comments where these same cops claim they have no duty to enforce these same laws. Why is that?

Adam Marshall
01-13-2005, 08:42 PM
depends on the crime,
If there is no arrest involved, what type of crimes would cause a police officer to 'require' a complainant immediately sign the initial complaint form?

more confused
01-13-2005, 08:52 PM
cops do not do barking dogs, they just drive by and report the call unfounded.

Now I'm even more confused. You are telling us that cops "do not do barking dogs," yet you also wrote a 911 dispatcher assigned a police officer to investigate a complaint of a barking dog?

If, as you claim, "cops do not do barking dogs," why is the police 911 dispatcher accepting calls for this type of complaint?

And if a police officer responds to a 911 call of a barking dog and hears the dog barking, is he serving the public by informing his dispatcher that the dog barking complaint is "unfounded."

01-14-2005, 06:48 AM
Did he intentioanlly take your $20 in an attempt to deprive you of the same....probably not

Police presence may have forced the gas attendant to have 2nd thoughts and he may have forked over my $5 change. Instead the rude lazy cop who was chatting with his friend in a parking lot was assuming the guy didn't understand English. I assumed the cop was an azzhole anyway who should've never become a cop if he he doesn't like his job or he wants to pick and chose his calls. His actions confirmed my opinion.

By the way, I've had gas attendants give me high test when I asked for regular and another time they claimed I never paid. When I threatened to call police, they did the right thing.

Blue Blooded
01-14-2005, 06:55 AM
A little info for confused in EM. First of all you didn't hire me and second, you pay taxes (the same that i pay) and those taxes pay for police service (so you can say that I pay my salary and I'm my own boss.) I find it humorous when you refer to being victimized by a barking dog. I pray that you never know what it really is to be victimized. 911 is an emergency number. Some people use it as a party line. Noise ordinances (including barking dogs) are town ordinances. If you are too scared to actually approach your neighbor and discuss it like adults then call the town and they will handle it (that is why they have code enforcement). Just because you dial 911 does not mean the cop is going to do whatever you want them to. We are not your servants. We are public servants and that means we act in the best interest of the public as a whole. Depending on the situation that may or may not be you. I'm sure you will write something stupid in return, probably about how your confused about why the sky is blue so let's hear it. I could use the entertainment.

crimes+misdemeanors
01-14-2005, 07:53 AM
If there is no arrest involved, what type of crimes would cause a police officer to 'require' a complainant immediately sign the initial complaint form?
You dont sign the complaint form you sign a statement or affidavit.If it is a violation the civilian arrest form.
And that is all of them.

catch-22
01-14-2005, 08:04 AM
Ain't going to happen. I just received a tax bill that tells me I am paying hundreds of dollars a year for police services.

If I have a problem you can bet your bottom dollar I am going to call the police to assist me. And while I realize most cops could care less about my problem, I am still going to call them.
Right and as posted, the cop is going to ''investigate'' your call of ''im impatient, running late, and dont want to be stuck at this light any longer so im going to say its out'', knowing every 3-4 days he gets this call, or drive down the block and see if the dog is ''barking continuously for 15 minute'' as per most town ordinances, which no dog ever does.
Then he will mark the call unfounded or perhaps write a little field report. the many calls he handles a day that are unfounded, add to the workload of real calls. then come contract time, or hiring time the pba has additional workload to demand a raise or more police, which in turn leads to hire more cops or raises taxes...
you are a fool

911 dispatching
01-14-2005, 08:12 AM
''If, as you claim, "cops do not do barking dogs," why is the police 911 dispatcher accepting calls for this type of complaint''

any call to 911 will be answered by a police officer, eventually, whether or not it is within the realm of their job description.
if it is a situation that the cop can call the proper agency he will do the complaintant the favor, and call for them. if anonymous or no interview requested it will be treated as such. if it is unfounded it is unfounded.

civil dispute
01-14-2005, 08:28 AM
Police presence may have forced the gas attendant to have 2nd thoughts and he may have forked over my $5 change. Instead the rude lazy cop who was chatting with his friend in a parking lot was assuming the guy didn't understand English. I assumed the cop was an azzhole anyway who should've never become a cop if he he doesn't like his job or he wants to pick and chose his calls. His actions confirmed my opinion.

By the way, I've had gas attendants give me high test when I asked for regular and another time they claimed I never paid. When I threatened to call police, they did the right thing.
when you agree to purchase gas from a station you enter a agreement as a customer. any disagreement over the merchandise you paid for is civil not criminal

town taxman
01-14-2005, 09:33 AM
''Ain't going to happen. I just received a tax bill that tells me I am paying hundreds of dollars a year for police services. ''
what about the equal+ or - amount you pay in town taxes? dont you actually want the problem resolved ? or do you just call 911 to see the car pass your house?
call the town

ok try this;
01-14-2005, 09:46 AM
If there is no arrest involved, what type of crimes would cause a police officer to 'require' a complainant immediately sign the initial complaint form?
simple if you arent pressing charges you will be asked to sign the original incident report stating you do not wish to press charges

give us a break
01-14-2005, 09:54 AM
any chance the poster using these names, town taxman, and ok try this;, among dozens of other names, could try quoting like a human being so we can understand what the hell he is responding to?

Easy reading
01-14-2005, 10:18 AM
Just read it. It's English, simple enough. He's answering all YOUR posts

Easy reading
01-14-2005, 10:24 AM
any chance the poster using these names, town taxman, and ok try this;, among dozens of other names, could try quoting like a human being so we can understand what the hell he is responding to
hey maybe you can call 911 and get a cop out to you to read it[/list]

pUMP YOUR OWN DAMN GAS...
01-14-2005, 01:00 PM
HEY GUEST.....IF YOU KEEP HAVING ALL THESE PROBLEMS AT GAS STATIONS WHY DON'T TRY PUMPING YOUR OWN DAMN GAS NEXT TIME!

this is sad
01-14-2005, 02:58 PM
The guy got smacked. suck it up. Its harrasment. If the cop there wouldent take a report then go to the precinct and make one. The cop was most likely busy. The only good a report will do is if the guy who smacked the employee does it again maybe a lawsuit could be in order. If the guy keeps harrassing the employee i am sure its another level of harrassment.

Marjorie
01-14-2005, 06:28 PM
The only good a report will do is if the guy who smacked the employee does it again maybe a lawsuit could be in order.

You seem to know what youre talking about so maybe you could answer a question I have. If the police can't do anything to the guy that slapped the gas station guy in the head unless they see it happen, how does the gas station guy go about pressing charges against the guy who slapped him? If you know. TIA!

what happened to me
01-15-2005, 12:15 AM
The other day I was walking along minding my own business, when a drunk guy gets out of the car he was driving and boiks me in the eyes like Moe used to do to Curly with his two fingers. I know he was drunk because he was drinking a beer and he had a "IM DRUNK'' t-shirt on. Then, he knocked my briefcase out of my hand. The briefcase opened spilling all my papers all over the place. He then pulled his pants down and pooped all over my papers. My eyes were still stinging, and he gave me a big wedgey, and took 5.00 dollars out of my pocket. The entire time there was 4 Police cars across the street, they were videotaping the entire incident and laughing at my misfortune. When I went over there, to confront them they pretended to be asleep. I asked them to file a report and they told me it wasnt their sector, and they werent working. What should i do?
Oh yeah the guy was an illegal alien, and a district attorney,too.

right place
01-15-2005, 01:02 AM
You found the right place. If anyonein the world could assist you, it will come from here.Check back in a day, give all the experts time to check out your options and they will advise you where to go with your dilemma.
hahahahahaha

Officer Egskuse
01-15-2005, 04:34 AM
The other day I was walking along minding my own business,

Right off the bat you got a BIG problem. In some jurisdictions we consider your egregious activity as 3rd degree Moppery.

when a drunk guy gets out of the car he was driving and boiks me in the eyes like Moe used to do to Curly with his two fingers.

Was he wearing an appendage affixed to his waist area and did he issue you fair warning he was about to inflict satirical juvenile humor accompanied by a brief jolt of pain upon you?

I know he was drunk because he was drinking a beer and he had a "IM DRUNK'' t-shirt on.

Sounds like the kinda guy you might want to invite to your regular card game?

Then, he knocked my briefcase out of my hand.

Perhaps he noticed the weight of your briefcase was causing an undue strain on your carpal muscles and he was only thinking of your health?

The briefcase opened spilling all my papers all over the place. He then pulled his pants down and pooped all over my papers.

He probably meant no harm. My guess he was acting out a newly acquired deviant fantasy he discovered on some Japanese website or Long Island message board on the Internet. You can't fault a guy for acting out his perverted fantasies in public, can you?

My eyes were still stinging,

That can happen when you find your self firmly ensconced in a haz-mat incident involving human waste. We hope to get his poop cleaned up and have the entire contaminated area deconned before dawn.

and he gave me a big wedgey, and took 5.00 dollars out of my pocket.

Sounds like the guy we've been looking for. I think the guys in the Robbery Squad developed a pattern on this guy. Yeah, now I remember reading a BOLO for this guy into poop, wedgies and five dollar bills. If he slipped his hand down your pants and started whistling Led Zep's Stairway to Heaven, then its the same guy we been tracking for about 5 months now.

The entire time there was 4 Police cars across the street, they were videotaping the entire incident and laughing at my misfortune.

Unfortunately, the detective investigating your case is on vacation so the officers were video taping the robbery so the detective would have evidence when he returns from his two month vacation in Tahiti with the wife, kids and his dearly beloved pit bull named Candace.

The officers were laughing for two reasons. They were all elated because they just got off the phone with their Superior who authorized six hours of investigative overtime to make sure every aspect of your case was memorialized for proper presentation at trial.

They were also laughing because they could not believe this drunken guy was committing all these crimes on tape and in front of law enforcement officials who spent their entire careers dedicated to apprehending bad guys like the one robbing you.

When I went over there, to confront them they pretended to be asleep.

Do you realize how lucky you are? You met the police department's elite Narco-lepsy Squad. Did you get their auotgraphs between snores?

I asked them to file a report and they told me it wasnt their sector, and they werent working.

This is entirely possible. These officers are represented by a strong and pliable union leader who vigorously fought to adopt strict work rules that limit the time officers are available to serve the public. Bargaining for and adopting rules that limit the amount of time a police officer is actually exposed to the public is a high priority for the union and it's members. I hope you understand?

What should i do?

Sir, they way I see it you went out of your way to ask for trouble when you intentionally decided to stroll along a public walk-way while minding your own business. I don't know where you are from but around here we consider that provocative behavior. Perhaps you would be better off staying home and tending to your ball bearing collection or trolling message boards?

Oh yeah the guy was an illegal alien, and a district attorney,too.

No problem Sir. I'll be sure to include that in my report. {crumble-toss-litter}

Have a nice day, Sir.

hey me too!!
01-15-2005, 12:17 PM
Oh I get it you are pretending to be the officer that hes reporting it to. Hah
Listen while we are doing this, strangely, a similiar event took place in my life not too long ago. I was using the public restroom in a Lirr station, I always bring my own toilet paper, for hygiene reasons. While I was going, a man, same description, kicked in my stall and took MY toilet paper and the toilet paper that was in the stall. Well I happened to have a cell phone and I called 911. THe officer that responded refused to assist me, stating it wasnt his job to provide me with sanitary t.p. I asked him if he would file a report and he refused, stating it was too smelly that I would have to exit the bathroom.
Well needless to say I went off on him. I told him I pay his salary and he is there to do my bidding. I exited the stall to go and retrieve a roll of t.p. from another stall,and was arrested for having my pants down.
The courts went right along with this miscarriage of justice and the D.A. lied and upgraded the charges to endangering the welfare as a young child passed out from the smell. The cop lied under oath, and now I have a criminal record.
The complaint against the dept. ended with iab giving me a report for lost or stolen t.p.
Is there anything I can do?

The Plain Truth
01-15-2005, 05:48 PM
Is there anything I can do?

Yeah, try taking a dump at home or finding a public toilet facility that offers a bidet.

What Happened to You
01-16-2005, 09:26 PM
Thanks for the post - "What Happened to Me". Now THAT"S entertainment! Nice job.

01-16-2005, 10:18 PM
I know he was drunk because he was drinking a beer and he had a "IM DRUNK'' t-shirt on.

If Long Island police detained this guy for DWI, what do you think are his chances of actually being arrested vs. the police calling a cab for him?

cloverman
01-17-2005, 02:43 AM
that was out of this world. that was a well thought out comedic para phrase of an incident that is entirely possible and hilarious. and even better we as policemen, make a point to take care of our own problems such as going to the root of the problem first before having someone else fight our battles. oh boy, im still giggling from that post,......oh boy.........too much man.......great stuff

Liked it too
01-17-2005, 09:38 PM
See- just nosing around this police site and I came up with a winner. N2N2N2N2N2 should do a new topic - call it - ENTERTAINMENT ONLY. Something light and pleasant for chronic insomniacs, night shift workers, and those 2 AM infant feedings!

ya mean;
01-17-2005, 11:47 PM
Those last 2 posts werent real-life events? Gee-wilickers, they are so similiar to all the other quote'' One time I saw this cop.....'' unquote, stories. I guess all these stories are here for our amusement. Thanks to the people making them up for us, funny stuff.

BACKONTOPIC
01-18-2005, 12:41 AM
This is serious stuff. Dont fall for the jokes, its a trick.
Damn it!!!!!!