Rockville Centre

[RVC Native]

Which direction is the Village going? How many apartment buildings will they allow to be built? What about crime statistics? Does anyone know?

[Rock Smith]

yes, I'll admit that I knew I had goofed the minute after I push enter.

The poll is the important thing, What direction are we going ? Forward or backward? Please give your views. I am very curious to know.

[N village]

thank god we got rid of that idiot greenfeld on the Zoning board---major, major attitude, walks around with his head up his butt all the time----what an a--

[newbie]

Yea..this guy lives in RVC...but my village of Lynbrook is where he has his business! He puts his 2 cents in at every Lynbrook board meeting too! Geezzzzzzzzzz.....

[Rock Smith]

I've heard the Holiday Inn may loose the franchise name and close. Has anyone else heard this story? What would happen to the building?

Does anyone know how the Hampton Inn is doing? I think that it is in a terrible spot.

What is the status of the apartment building by King Kullen? Has it been approved by the village? I heard it was going to be a condo. Is this true?

[12]

holiday inn lost its franchise, so it will probably become HARRY"S MOTOR INN.

Looks like it will be condo's next to KK

Yes, we can all jump for joy that greenfield is gone from the zoning commission. Nobody liked the jerk anyway---he's pompous and an idiot....

[49]

I agree go away

[watcher]

are fire personnel allowed to use chief car L 71449 to take their families to the beach?
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[priscilla]

are they allowed to do that??????????????

[RVC Resident]

I read in local paper theres going to be an increase to 5 dollars to go locally, What I dont understand why doesnt RVC have 2 cab companies? Competiton would be good i bet they wouldnt ask for an increase. Why hasnt the board solicit other companies to serve our town? i dont get it. Please mr mayor get another cab company in town

[Lynbrook Resident]

Our board is also considering a fare increase for All Island to $5 for a local trip in our village. One interesting item pointed out on a Lynbrook message board is that the taxi company makes it's drivers buy their gas from the taxi company, at a rate that is higher than at the regular pump. Yet, when the owner of the taxi company appeared at a public hearing in our Village, one point used to substantiate their fare increase was the increase in gas. But it seems that the drivers are the ones footing the bill for gas while the taxi company is making a profit off of the drivers gas expense.

[localperson]

I bet if the company had competition thry wouldnt ask for increase they are just hungry and I also hear the village of R.V.C. owns the little taxi booth and they rent it for next to nothing what a slapp in our faces,

[Ed]

rvc people are dorky snobs zealot conservatives
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[Harley]

You hit it right on the nail and one thing you forgot that if you dont gas up at company pumps you get fined $25.00 so either way the are making money.

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[Lynbrook Resident]

Has All Island Taxi presented their case for a fare increase before the RVC Board of Trustees? I believe there was to be a public hearing on this issue recently. If so, what was the outcome? Was an increase approved and how much?

Please let us know as All Island will be presenting their case before the Lybrook Board of Trustees in the near future.

[Best Western]

Coming Soon to hotel near you. Bye Holiday Inn

[aknon]

the fire chiefs are given those cars and they are allowed to go anywhere... i dont see how that is a problem .. they donate there time to the village... just like the rest of the volleys

[Concerned Citizen]

There might be an insurance issue with the Fire Chief using a Village vehicle for personal use. At a minimum, the Village is exposed to potential claims/lawsuits for any accidents involving vehicles registered to and insured by the taxpayers, whether used for official business or personal use.

In private industry, if a person has authorized use of a company vehicle, any use for personal reasons is calculated by an acceptable formula to place a value on such use. The value of such use is then added to the employess W2 or 1099 as a taxable income.

I agree that all volunteers, whether fire, ems, youth, civic, aux. police, school, religious, etc. deserve tremendous respect for their time put into great causes and needed service. They all donate their time to the Village.

[aknon]

From what i do understand the chiefs are given the cars for anything they need it for so they can always have it to respond to the emergencies in the vilage .. the real question about cars... is why are other departments letting higher ups take village cars ie out to there house in suffolk .. to use as there personal car... a fire chief can be verified ... the others ???

[Larry]

I was told the RVC board gave them a 50 cent raise but no raise for seniors. However they were reprimanded for charging high fares on holidays and raising airport fees without approval.
As far as the gas prices going up all their drivers gas up at their pumps at prices 10 cent more than higher thatn outside but if you dont gas there you get fined.

Heakth insurance is higher they say......... truth of the matter what cab driver get health insurance?

So Lynbrook resident I hope I ansered your question

[Lynbrook Resident]

Larry:

Thanks for taking the time to share this info. The deal you presented seems like a fair arrangement for the residents of RVC. I'm glad there are no raises for seniors. I hope our Village agrees to a similar deal.

When All Island presented their case at a prior public hearing in our town, they told us that they do not provide health insurance to the drivers. The health insurance is provided to the office staff only. It seems like the gas issue is a win-win for All Island. They get ten cents above costs from the drivers as well as half the approved fare increase. It is the drivers that are footing the entire cost of fuel, which we all know is dramatically higher than previous years and only receiving half of the approved increase.

[Concerned Citizens]

I have a relative who is a Fire Chief for the NYC Fire Dept. He has an official vehicle for use for "official" purposes. He is NOT to use this vehicle for any personal use and can be subject to disciplinary action if caught doing so. The odometer is monitored as well as the E-Z Pass usage. He has his own personal vehicle and has no problem using it in his leisurely travels, even thought he is on call for all emergencies and risks the possibility of using his own vehicle if called to an emergency while out with his family.

[aknon]

As for the fdny car your talking about a paid department ... you are forgetting that none of the people who volunteer for rockville centre get paid i am sure if it were different, rules would be different however as it seems now the chiefs all live around us .. i have one that lives down the block from me so they are ready and willing to respond to calls whenever they are needed... Is it that important to argue this point would you rather not have a person there 24/7 ? i know i sleep better every night because of it.

[Concerned Citizen]

I agree that all volunteer firefighters deserve the utmost respect for their courage and dedication to serve their community. I, too, feel safer knowing they are there to help me and my family in the event of an emergency.

But I believe the original question was if it is okay for a fire chief to use a village vehicle to take his family to the beach. Since there are no beaches in RVC, the chief must be traveling to Long Beach, Jones Beach, etc. Would this chief respond to an emergency while enjoying a day at the beach with family? I doubt it. Therefore, I think he should use discretion when deciding whether to use a village vehicle for personal use or not. If he is not likely to return to RVC for an emergency, then he should not use a village vehicle. And yes, the chief is entitled to take a day of leisurely pleasure with his family without feeling obligated to respond to every call in RVC. His family deserves that, so does he.

[aknon]

you wrote : "But I believe the original question was if it is okay for a fire chief to use a village vehicle to take his family to the beach. Since there are no beaches in RVC, the chief must be traveling to Long Beach, Jones Beach, etc. Would this chief respond to an emergency while enjoying a day at the beach with family? I doubt it. Therefore, I think he should use discretion when deciding whether to use a village vehicle for personal use or not. If he is not likely to return to RVC for an emergency, then he should not use a village vehicle. And yes, the chief is entitled to take a day of leisurely pleasure with his family without feeling obligated to respond to every call in RVC. His family deserves that, so does he. "

heres what i think ... If hes issued the car for those reasons and also for him to have for the duration he's fire chief it is classified as his personal car also his car for village buisness ( if i am wrong correct me ) there for why not allow him to the beach and such with the fire chiefs car? if anything does happen in the village i'd assume that he would have no problem answering his phone and im sure if there is an emergency big enough he'd go? It would seem foolish to think that if the fire chief knew that the village was burning down he'd sit back and stay at the beach...Next i have to say what about the other village departments that get cars... We can take the police comissioner for example he has yet another very vital job in the community does he deserve his car ?

[Concerned Citizen]

There must be an ordinance regulating the use of village vehicles, whether they can be used 24/7. It would seem that any authorization for such use has to pass a majority vote of the Village Board. Perhaps a Board member or the Mayor can shed some light into the "legal" aspect of such uses.

[aknon]

Well if you think about it ... who knows when there will be an emergency so technically they are always working.. if you can predict such an event you'd be a very helpful resource to the fd but since you cant ... why not let them use the car for anything anytime so that when they get the call they dont just respond from where they are ... i can understand certain village cars not being used all the time but an emergency service is kinda hard to not justify ... and furthur more i think we both need to let it slide seeing is i dont think either of us donates our time like he/she does...

[joe]

the fundamental questions is should the taxpayers pay for his day at the beach. The faxt he gvolunteers his time to the FD is his choice
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[aknon]

the tax payers are not paying for his day at the beach... i am sure they are not paying him to get in ... they are not paying for the bbq he may have had ? they are providing him with a vehicle to use which is used for both emergencies and village buisness also leisure now Does anyone know the statistics of the rockville centre fire department If you figure the more calls they do the more reason for the car... would you want the chief of the fire department driving around in his personal car every time he needed and errand to be run than have to rush back to his house to pick up the chiefs car than respond to the emergency ? seems kinda foolish

[joe]

the once in a millenium that the guy is driving his personal car and an emergency occurs, so let him take his own car. What's more important, a few miles on his car---which I'm sure he could be compensated for and a gallon of gas---or getting to a scene quickly. Having lived in this town close to 40 years I don't see a rampant fire/emergency problem where he'd have to be roving around in a chief car 24/7 in case of an emergency. Further more, if we want the chioef or whoever to have the car, the the Board and the people should have a hearing to discuss the matter. If all parties agree---if there is a vote--than so be it, otherwise I don't think it's justified at the beach. If he went to the 7-11 or to the corner store, you might make a case he was in "responding" vicinity. But at the beach, on the sand, in the water, playing with the kids--far far from the Village---sorry, this won't fly. Why not let him drive it to the Jersey Shore next, after all, if there is an emergency, he'd be back within 2hours or so.
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[aknon]

This is where you are mistaken sir .. when i took a Cpr class a while ago you were taught that any event inwhich an ambulance and such is called is a major emergency ... Would you want to wait for a fire chief who has training to sit through traffic because you wanted him to take his personal car to the supermarket ?Seeing as youve lived in this town for over 40 years you would remember the major fires that i do also .. is that not a reason to have a person in a car at all times ... If im not mistaken i remember the fire department pulling a person out of that huge fire across from the library ... i do not think its a fair fight to blame the fire chief for the one day he decided to go to the beach when very well he could have been doing Fire department buisness all night before ... Its a Just Reason to have a person like that in a car at all times... even if its to the beach which means with the lights and sirens im sure he could get back quicker





You wrote: the once in a millenium that the guy is driving his personal car and an emergency occurs, so let him take his own car. What's more important, a few miles on his car---which I'm sure he could be compensated for and a gallon of gas---or getting to a scene quickly. Having lived in this town close to 40 years I don't see a rampant fire/emergency problem where he'd have to be roving around in a chief car 24/7 in case of an emergency. Further more, if we want the chioef or whoever to have the car, the the Board and the people should have a hearing to discuss the matter. If all parties agree---if there is a vote--than so be it, otherwise I don't think it's justified at the beach. If he went to the 7-11 or to the corner store, you might make a case he was in "responding" vicinity. But at the beach, on the sand, in the water, playing with the kids--far far from the Village---sorry, this won't fly. Why not let him drive it to the Jersey Shore next, after all, if there is an emergency, he'd be back within 2hours or so.

[GetOverit]

I think the main issue is this. Personal use of Vollie Fire Chief car. A reasonable geographic area would be ok for personal use. Not commuting to NYC ect, weekend in the Hamptons, trip to Orlando. I saw a local LI Fire Chief car in Colorado. Before anyone rushes to deny this I have photos which prove this fact and would be embarrassing, if you say this is BS I will post them for all to see. I think that unless these trips are for official bussiness it would be OK. running around town to the 711, king kullen...thats ok too. Even to the local beach would be OK. Mix this with Booze and we have a liability issue. Remember these guys spend a great deal of time away from family to help the community, the Chief Car is a badge of honor, as long as that honor is maintained I don't see a problem. Also don't drive like a jerk. If there is no emergency don't create one. You are only a liability if you have a wreck on the way to a run.

[joe]

Let's see what the Village Board and the attny have to say regarding this. I will be anonymously sending them this post. If they think it's okay and is allowed by code--FINE---then they're allowed to do it. If they are not allowed---they should be told not to do it. If the people---THE PEOPLE--of RVC want their tax dollars going to the beach or otherwise, then as long as they KNOW IT and agree to it it's fine. I'm only one of 25,000.
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[Pierce]

Its amazing how many of you lead such pathetic lives that BS like this consumes your free time........

Try something more effective with your time, like actual research instead of this fictitious nonsense.

[joe]

pierce---it's unfortunate that you've decided to take the low road and defend your unlawful actions of driving your family to the beach in the aforementioned chief car.
Now I have drafted a letter to the mayor and trustees, with the date, time and occupants of said vehicle that was used with quite questionable ethical fore-thought and with no regard to the taxpayers.

By the way, it's also unlawful not to have your children seat belted. If not for you--as a parent you should protect them.

so much for convern for emergencies and life...
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[aknon]

why make an assumption like that when you dont know who that person is ... that could land people in trouble .. this is a discussion board for mature people not a place to aim blame.... Speaking Of this did everyone see the herald this week ... yet another reason for the fire chiefs to have the cars they drive and use it for everything and anything ...

[fdman]

a fire chief donates his time , as well as every member of the FD,...he is at more calls , be it a fire call, or a rescue call, but you won't alow him to take this fire department tool out to give him and his family a break. But I will tell you this, you will be the first person to SCREAM at a board meeting when you need him and he didn't show up quick enoughf9or your cries for help, but because of you , he had to respond home first just to get the Chiefs car, because you are too narrowed minded to look past the small change he is using. Wake up and worry about your schools and kids

[GetOverit]

I don't think an East Medow chief will respond from Great Adventure, An East Rockaway chief from Universal Orlando, a RVC chief from Montauk, a Farmingdale chief from Killington Vt. Point is there is a line between being a Vollie, an earned benifit and abuse of a perk and taxpayers $$$$$$.

I think Vollies are great community minded people. I was very impressed in Sept when the RVC truck came back from a Lynbrook wet down in the park on Merrick Rd. The boys were a hootin & a hollerin. If that 25 ton rig goes out of control, somebody's day will be ruined. You know who you are!!!

[joe]

now the mayor and the board knows more of the truth----I've been asured the appropriate action will be taken---as it should be
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[aknon]

isnt the mayor a fire fighter ??? Dont you think that the village already knows about this if theyve been allowing this for how long ? honestly .. the service preformed is above and beyond why not let them have it

[FF]

why don't you get off your fat butt,and bring your letter to the mayors office and sign your real name to it, i know why you wont because your a puss(y) and hides behind a computer screen.
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[FireFighter]

those who put in the 6 years to be chief and serve the citizens of the village (and neighboring towns on mutual aid calls) deserve the privilage that comes with being a chief, and that is a chiefs car....florida,coloradovermont thats a little far but I see no problem with chiefs doing what they wish with the cars

[RVC Native66]

Has anyone heard anymore about the apartment complex?

[RVC Native66]

Has anyone heard anymore about the apartment complex?

Is it still on track

[RVC NAtive66]

those who put in the 6 years to be chief and serve the citizens of the village (and neighboring towns on mutual aid calls) deserve the privilage that comes with being a chief, and that is a chiefs car....florida,coloradovermont thats a little far but I see no problem with chiefs doing what they wish with the cars

Firefighters get too much in the village

[fdproud]

what a dope you are rvc native,..why do you think the get too much, how much do they get paid,...$0.00 ,,,who pays them for their gas and insurance to respond to calls, you don't you dope....infact if you had an thing below, you might have joined, but they don't need dopes like you, they need real people, not dopes like you

[RVCNATIVE]

what a dope you are rvc native,..why do you think the get too much, how much do they get paid,...$0.00 ,,,who pays them for their gas and insurance to respond to calls, you don't you dope....infact if you had an thing below, you might have joined, but they don't need dopes like you, they need real people, not dopes like you

The fd in RVC needs to do a better job - for all the money we spend we should be getting better service

[RVC old timer]

what a dope you are rvc native,..why do you think the get too much, how much do they get paid,...$0.00 ,,,who pays them for their gas and insurance to respond to calls, you don't you dope....infact if you had an thing below, you might have joined, but they don't need dopes like you, they need real people, not dopes like you

The fd in RVC needs to do a better job - for all the money we spend we should be getting better service

The department in RVC needs to imrove. They need to make better use of all the funds we supply them.

[RVC since 1983]

what a dope you are rvc native,..why do you think the get too much, how much do they get paid,...$0.00 ,,,who pays them for their gas and insurance to respond to calls, you don't you dope....infact if you had an thing below, you might have joined, but they don't need dopes like you, they need real people, not dopes like you

The fd in RVC needs to do a better job - for all the money we spend we should be getting better service

The department in RVC needs to imrove. They need to make better use of all the funds we supply them.

Will never happen as they are too political

[RVC Vollie FD]

Stop bashing us vollies - you dont know what you are talking about

[RVC'er since 92]

Stop bashing us vollies - you dont know what you are talking about

Keep up the great work

[RVC native since '56]

Stop bashing us vollies - you dont know what you are talking about

Keep up the great work

These vollies look to take more and more and always complain about what we are not giving them

[vollieff]

the FD is an ever changing world..the need to improve training,tools,equipment will always be there....the fire service relys on the taxpayers and the village to support them, it is just a fact of life..if you dont like it move to NYC where they are shutting down firehouses and jeopardizing the lives of hundreds of residents who used to have that "first due" engine and ladder...you should be proud of your volunteers for they are here to serve YOU!!! they provide a great service to their respective communities and have for many,many years...maybe you have a personal vendetta against one or two members but to bash the people that could be saving your life one day is just wrong........

[RVC'er since 56]

the FD is an ever changing world..the need to improve training,tools,equipment will always be there....the fire service relys on the taxpayers and the village to support them, it is just a fact of life..if you dont like it move to NYC where they are shutting down firehouses and jeopardizing the lives of hundreds of residents who used to have that "first due" engine and ladder...you should be proud of your volunteers for they are here to serve YOU!!! they provide a great service to their respective communities and have for many,many years...maybe you have a personal vendetta against one or two members but to bash the people that could be saving your life one day is just wrong........

The closures of the NYFD houses has done nothing to effect service. There were too many to begin with - but its the same - take anything away and they cry like babies. Now the NYFD is slowing down response times on purpose with their antics.

On top of that they complain about contract issues they agreed too with all the sick time they take.

I would never say the service is great. The destruction the RVc vollies cause is sometimes much more than the fire themselves.

[we support the FD]

the FD is an ever changing world..the need to improve training,tools,equipment will always be there....the fire service relys on the taxpayers and the village to support them, it is just a fact of life..if you dont like it move to NYC where they are shutting down firehouses and jeopardizing the lives of hundreds of residents who used to have that "first due" engine and ladder...you should be proud of your volunteers for they are here to serve YOU!!! they provide a great service to their respective communities and have for many,many years...maybe you have a personal vendetta against one or two members but to bash the people that could be saving your life one day is just wrong........

You tell them

The closures of the NYFD houses has done nothing to effect service. There were too many to begin with - but its the same - take anything away and they cry like babies. Now the NYFD is slowing down response times on purpose with their antics.

so closing firehouses in nyc has done nothing to "affect" (correct word) service. whos stats are you using? scoppettas? maybe if you understood response times and proedures you might have a valid point. only takes one time to lose a life, chances are they never come back. the city wants to roll the dice thats a helluva risk to take. think jamaica 1994.

as for slower response times, come to the city and ride the roads. many times i woulda banged my head on the cab roof hitting a bump on the wonderful city roads. get in an accident and your at fault, NYC has already told us we wont be imdemnified. so i am not losing my personal effects (HERES where you use the word) for good press. so you bet ill do the speed limit and make my stops.

as for crying like babies, im sure when your job takes things away or cans people you sit there with a smile on your face. Good company man.

On top of that they complain about contract issues they agreed too with all the sick time they take.

what issues? losing a man cuz sick time is over 7.5% (at "crying time it was 7.53%). the "JOB" could have took into consideration 9/11 (God forbid we bring THAT up). almost 4 yrs later, many guys are still out and its the "JOB" that holds them up to retire on disability. the "JOB" could have taken that into effect (or affect? hmm). After all, EPA said there was NO danger in the air there, and we saw how wrong they were.

and sick time abuse? My international union (IAFF) did a study years ago, and saw in most cities, the fire depts usually had to LOWEST sick time use/abuse than any other city agencies. BTW , r u a cop?

lately cops are very caustic towards FD members. i have a lot of respect for cops, but more cops come to fire than fire leaving for PD.


walk a mile in my shoes before you criticize. and get your facts. for i think we can both agree the papers dont cover both sides. and by the way, dont bring up the morons that have made the paper for their antics. ill be the first to agree they should be canned.

The closures of the NYFD houses has done nothing to effect service. There were too many to begin with - but its the same - take anything away and they cry like babies. Now the NYFD is slowing down response times on purpose with their antics.

so closing firehouses in nyc has done nothing to "affect" (correct word) service. whos stats are you using? scoppettas? maybe if you understood response times and proedures you might have a valid point. only takes one time to lose a life, chances are they never come back. the city wants to roll the dice thats a helluva risk to take. think jamaica 1994.

as for slower response times, come to the city and ride the roads. many times i woulda banged my head on the cab roof hitting a bump on the wonderful city roads. get in an accident and your at fault, NYC has already told us we wont be imdemnified. so i am not losing my personal effects (HERES where you use the word) for good press. so you bet ill do the speed limit and make my stops.

as for crying like babies, im sure when your job takes things away or cans people you sit there with a smile on your face. Good company man.

On top of that they complain about contract issues they agreed too with all the sick time they take.

what issues? losing a man cuz sick time is over 7.5% (at "crying time it was 7.53%). the "JOB" could have took into consideration 9/11 (God forbid we bring THAT up). almost 4 yrs later, many guys are still out and its the "JOB" that holds them up to retire on disability. the "JOB" could have taken that into effect (or affect? hmm). After all, EPA said there was NO danger in the air there, and we saw how wrong they were.

and sick time abuse? My international union (IAFF) did a study years ago, and saw in most cities, the fire depts usually had to LOWEST sick time use/abuse than any other city agencies. BTW , r u a cop?

lately cops are very caustic towards FD members. i have a lot of respect for cops, but more cops come to fire than fire leaving for PD.


walk a mile in my shoes before you criticize. and get your facts. for i think we can both agree the papers dont cover both sides. and by the way, dont bring up the morons that have made the paper for their antics. ill be the first to agree they should be canned.

More bellyaching about the the so-called stories not being covered by the news.

First off a contract is a contract - you agreed to the stipulation about 7.5% overtime - now when it is used you complain about that - next time dont agree to it - you have absolutely no complaints about that as you got burned by your own stupidity.

Response time - again check the stats as the areas where firehouses have been closed have had negligible if any increase in response time. Repsonse time has only gone up as a result of the union memo which told you to stop at all traffic signals. Lets not forget the recent accident with the firefighter all drugged up on coke - oh yes the coursts overruled the test on a point about what was considered a major vs minor accident - but if you want to cry about being slightly over the 7.5% limit - lets see you give him up on the same contract technicality.

September 11 - are some firefighters still out because of that -yes but again get the numbers and you will see how few it is. Pataki just gave you another bone for your retirement so maybe you can stop crying about that too.

[RVC'er since 56]

Once you get the facts the FD run and hide

[guest22]

What exactly to RVC vollies get that is causing such an uproar. Is the fire service award or tax credits? What exactly is your gripe with the fire department?

[RVC'er since 56]

What exactly to RVC vollies get that is causing such an uproar. Is the fire service award or tax credits? What exactly is your gripe with the fire department?

Maybe its the bars in the firehouse - whats the need for that

[RVC Vollie]

What exactly to RVC vollies get that is causing such an uproar. Is the fire service award or tax credits? What exactly is your gripe with the fire department?

Maybe its the bars in the firehouse - whats the need for that

Hey if you don't like our service let us know and we dont have to show up at yor place when its an emergency

[RVC is the best]

Why do we have this hostility between the residents and the Volunteer fire department. They do a great job and we need to support them

[the 'fro knows]

The opplace is a dumping ground

[Walls and Campbell]

The opplace is a dumping ground

So true