Southern clicks of MS-13 trying to ambush Police!!!

[Watchout]

All theses towns like Westbury, Hempstead, Farmingdale, Freeport, Hicksville and many others that have been infected by MS-13 should take this as warning from down south. I pray we take control NOW before it will OVERWHELMS us also!!

Hispanic gang plots to ambush Maryland cops


By Matthew Cella
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


Police officials in Prince George's and Montgomery counties are warning officers that a Salvadoran street gang is plotting to ambush and kill them when they respond to service calls.


www.washingtontimes.com/m...-8573r.htm

[thats a crime]

maybe a few 30-40 year olds thrown in there to

In Huntington we'll give you a place to recruit your club membership

the public even funds it

[no crime]

thats a good one. rev was good too, we have to start trying to be fathers to all these youths, lord only knows where theirs areD">

[take your pick]

Farmingville, Farmingdale, Huntington when is the government going to do something???

[BinderFan]

Allan Binder will take care of this problen in Huntington as soon as he is elected supervisor.

[Breeding Grounds]

Cliques of MS13

HLS: Hempstead Locotes Salvatruchos - Hempstead, NY

NLS: Normandies Locotes Salvatruchos - Westbury, NY

PLS: Pelones Locotes Salvatruchos - Westbury, NY

FMS: Familia Mara Salvatrucha - Westbury, NY

MLS: Mineola Locotes Salvatruchos - Mineola, NY

FLS: Familia Locotes Salvatruchos - Freeport, NY

FLS: Freeport Locotes Salvatruchos - Freeport, NY

HCS: Hicksville Coronados Salvatruchos - Hicksville, NY

RLS: Roosevelt Locotes Salvatruchos - Roosevelt, NY

ULS: Uniondale Locotes Salvatruchos - Uniondale, NY

HCLS: Huntington Criminal Locotes Salvatruchos - Huntington, NY

BLS: Brentwood Locotes Salvatruchos - Brentwood, NY

CILS: Central Islip Locotes Salvatruchos - Central Islip, NY

CLS: Copaigue Locotes Salvatruchos - Copaigue, NY

CLS: Coronados Locotes Salvatruchos - Westbury, NY

CLS: Coronados Locotes Salvatruchos - Jamaica, Queens, NY

CMS: Coronados Mara Salvatrucha - Forrest Hills, Queens, NY

JCLS: Jamaica Central Locotes Salvatruchos - Jamaica, Queens, NY

SLS: Surenos Locotes Salvatruchos - Far Rockaway, Queens, NY

BMS: Brooklyn Mara Salvatrucha - Sunset Park, Brooklyn, NY

ALS: Adams St. Locotes Salvatruchos - Los Angeles, California

VNLS: Valle Nuevo Locotes Salvatruchos - El Salvador, Central America

[stark reality]

That's pretty sobering. But if this is known, why isn't anybody doing anything about it? Is it law enforcement, the pols, who's supposed to clean it up?

[What are you doing about]

Carry M-16A4's with the M203 grenade launcher and no need to worry about a gang "ambush". Shoot them on sight.

[knightrider]

in huntington alone govt. taxpayer funds go to Donald Pius to house MS-13 members

town housing authority and towns CDA are in bed with many slumlords and their businesses

[yoy]

[Gangsta]

Is it true the MS-13 have a better benefit fund than us County Employees?

[BAD POET]

Roses are red violets are blue, the dems control Huntington, the housing authority too. So what do they care if Pius to gain,a few million dollars, to house all the gangs. He's providing a service for that we are told, but as years passes by the gangs get more bold. They are taking our money, low and behold.
The politicians and gangs and friends of the dems, are trying our patience,as they spend spend spend,Our hard earned dollars for taxes you see, are spent for others before they must flee.

MY APOLOGIES TO ALL REAL POETS

[THE REAL mcj]

Article was written by Michelle Malkin, here is just a part of the article that was concerned about MS-13. Title of article is "Year of Homeland Insecurity".

The Rise Of MS-13. The savage El Salvador-based gang. Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) has now penetrated more than a dozen states. In May, a Fairfax, Va., teenager had his fingers chopped off in an MS-13 machete attack. In November, Washington, D.C. area police received warning that MS-13 is plotting to ambush and kill them when they respond to service calls. Active in alien, drug and weapons smuggling, MS-13 members in America have been tied to numerous killings, robberies, carjackings, extortions and rapes. The gang has also been linked to efforts to help al Qaeda infiltrate the U.S.-Mexico border.

In the same article Malkin also states that Islamic terrorists have already been captured along the Mexico border with Texas. They have false documentation from South America, learn Spanish, travel to Mexico and then come across the border with the help of Mexican and El Salvadoran gangs that smuggle people in to the USA for profit.

When was the last time Bart Jones mentioned MS-13? Or gangs in general?

He seems to have no problem writing about every latino who as much as gets harrassed for littering, but keeps his trap shut about the infestation.

[Bart Jones]

I am a sellout!!!!!!!!!!

I am here for all the Latino gangs!!!!!

I need my job!!!!

Southern clicks of MS-13 trying to ambush Police!!!

Well damn, thats a helluva lot better than having them ambush me or my family or friends.

[well know wonder]

ya can be as liberal a democrat as ya wanna be guest, heck your neighborhood is safe as long as they keep the guards awake and the gates closed and the police taking all the heat

[thats funny]

Well damn, thats a helluva lot better than having them ambush me or my family or friends.

ok so when they knock off the cops, whos left?

[chameleon]

libs are libs until something bad happens to them

newsreport that underground illegal economy and illegal aliens cost the country over trillion dollars every year

so how do we change this

[from the rumor mill]

from the local rumor mills around towns---this seems to be

prevalent ---looks like a lot of HUD funding (your tax dollars) are

going to wealthy landlords to house illegal aliens including those

mentioned here on this web site---MS-13 members are living in

these houses while the multi-millionaire landlords rake in millions of

your tax dollars per year for these houses---some of these towns

even pay these wealthy millionaires who want to have

rehabilitation work done on them your tax dollars to do it---and the

people who benefit from it are the landlords own workers along

with former/present town workers and officials

which was not the intent of that original HUD law---all this helps

to erode our tax base for government services like schools, police

libraries etc.---our town laws to prevent many of these dwellings

from existing the way they do are all but ignored---code

enforcement is all but non existant in some areas---and few

times wealthy landlords are brought to district court their given

the VIP treatment and let off with hardly a peep of a fine---in some

cases towns never even take wealthy landlords to court despite

repeated code violations documented---Huntington's infamous fire

tragedy on 28 west hills road is a good case in point---yet no town

official ever took blame or responsibility for that despite

government records to the contrary

[Stan Dryer]

ok so when they knock off the cops, whos left?

I'll tell whose left. The same type of citizen who over 200 years ago protected himself and fought for the freedoms we enjoy today.

The same type of citizen who would glady and competently perform the duties of a police officer for a lot less money then we pay these cops today.

[davy crockett]

king of the wild frontier
nice. you animals would kill each other off in 10 minutes

[wanna be!!]

''The same type of citizen who would glady and competently perform the duties of a police officer for a lot less money then we pay these cops today.''
i would love to see that. you'd end up shooting off your toes in 2 minutes.

[stans not the man]

I like to see stan not the man live in areas infested with gangs. I wonder what he would think of the police then? Maybe stan is one of those slumlords we keep hearing about? Like to see stan on a raid of some heroin and crack joint.

[TRUTHISTHEAMERICANWAY]

Congress is back from its Christmas recess. Victims of 9/11 who lost loved ones will be petitioning the government to crack down on illegal immigrants. They also do not want illegal aliens to be able to receive driver licenses. This would make a complete mockery of our laws and institutions. President Bush as of now thinks he can have his way and have illegals become documented and then legalized. This should never happen. We need to get our country back from those who would sell us out for the almighty dollar and/or think this country is better off balkinized and turned into a great tower of Babel. Nobody is as affected by this onslaught of illegal aliens as are the police. They must deal with the rise of violent foreign gangs as our politicians keep their heads in the sand as long as the money keeps coming in.

[hearditonthegrapevine]

looks like there is trouble brewing in Huntington over the way they house gang members with tax payer dollars more is surely to follow

[thiswasmiffed]

ok so when they knock off the cops, whos left?

I'll tell whose left. The same type of citizen who over 200 years ago protected himself and fought for the freedoms we enjoy today.

The same type of citizen who would glady and competently perform the duties of a police officer for a lot less money then we pay these cops today.

[allnighter]

way Mexico keeps invading our territory ya won't need cops much longer ---a martial law will be in place

[do the right thing!]

I like to see stan not the man live in areas infested with gangs. I wonder what he would think of the police then?


Are you referring to the once inhabitable and domesticated communities on Long Island that the police ALLOWED to become infested in the first place? Are ya?

[do the right thing!]

way Mexico keeps invading our territory ya won't need cops much longer ---a martial law will be in place

Thanks for the update, Deputy.

[trojan man]

''Are you referring to the once inhabitable and domesticated communities on Long Island that the police ALLOWED to become infested in the first place? Are ya?''
We have no control over birth control. We got rid of as many of you savages as possible. Sadly you and your females breed like rabbits.

[farmingville patrol]

''Are you referring to the once inhabitable and domesticated communities on Long Island that the police ALLOWED to become infested in the first place? Are ya''
Who rents to these people? Sells them their 1990 Honda Civics?
Who allows them to cut their lawns, build new houses,drive their commercial vehicles without ANY license, and the other various undocumented jobs they are employed in?
Who serves them drink after drink, allowing them to stagger home across C.R. 16? Or drive?
Who buys their weed from them, Uses their hoes?

You people do. And frankly the difference between them and you,is they dont call 911 for every pothole they see. Otherwise, its just a accent.

[serious sh--]

okay now so do the right thing like a lot of good liberals and democrats blame the police for the gangs

unfortunately thats what they did in the town of Huntington---the liberal democrats blamed the law enforcement authorities for the increase in gang related crime----

these same pugnacious government officials the head of the Huntington community development agency being one of them had the audacity to blame police for these vermin walking our streets

and guess who gives these vermin a place to live while they do their daily routine of rape robbery extortion mutilations etc. while none other than our towns community development agency giving our tax dollars to fund the life styles of the gangs and their multi millionaire landlords and associated businesses

[detainee]

I issued a summons to an illegal i/f/o the infamous 7-11 for loitering 2 years ago.
he had a lawyer who called my c.o.
I caught several earfuls from several white shirts about not singling these ''people'' out. not taking sides, or making waves.
by the end of that year, the position i applied for, and was told was the most qualified, was given to someone else with 7 less years on. havent had an interview since.
enough said. the liberals win.

[weed and weed again]

one sarge said that to question anyone loitering is like the Nazis questioning people just standing around YIKES-- political thought police has already infected the white shirts

[2nd Pct resident]

according to a poster the area in most need will lose permanently a sector car, why?
we already have more gang members than we do police

[wabble wouser is my name]

they just arrested a pervert driving around in a vehicle with North Carolina Plates-hispanic male exposing himself to school girls-how does the public find out if he is an immigrant and if he's legal or not?

[try to foil pd]

they may give you info you want but will take time-go ask them how to do it

[blip]

who dictates to police commissioner

politicians or the media or both

[thats easy]

the politician

[tell the politicians]

to get those patrol cars back on duty in Huntington

[PD1111]

Did you hear that Al Qaida has supposedly contacted members of the MS-13 gang for help in smuggling terrorists into the United States???

[infidel]

most disturbing

way in which Latino activists like Rev Ramirez and Nadia Molinaro don't even want criminal immigrants deported

I mean it can't be any plainer what kind of people would want vicious murderers rapists gang members to be put back into the community where they usually hurt immigrants

Those two activists and their cadre of politicians who support them are anti American and anti Immigrant despite their vitrolic rhetoric

[Hardcore]

The problem with gang activity is far beyond out of control. The M.S 13 are a dangerous breed. They are quiet, but they are always plotting and planning. Each one of them alone is non threatning. In fact , i've never seen one over four foot tall. But, together they work like solider ants. They strike fast, and could overwhelm you quickly. They are not usually bright, but they are ruthless, and scheming. A far more dangerous combination if you ask me. What's the answer? How do we rid our communities of this infestation? Tougher laws are not the answer. They don't care, and they don't work. We can't wait around for them to commit crimes, then act. Special task forces should be mobilized now, using police, and active military personnel. We need to take a proactive approach. Responding with deadly physical force is now warranted. Start sending bodies back to El Salvador. Round up, and deport all that you can find. Go to the jails, they're full of them. When their sentence is complete, escort them from jail directly to the airport! Deport them, and if they resist do your duty! ( I'm just dreaming, I know we are to liberal for this scenario)

[foxfan]

on fox channel 5 last night they showed an initiation of a MS-13 member getting kicked by about 6 other members.

The report also mentioned that MS-13 members have been recruited by terror groups from the middle east to be smuggled in to the country by way of Mexico.

MS-13 has a very productive pipeline into this country. And once here they almost never have to leave. Maybe Levy will change that?

This was right after the reports of a possible religious killing of an entire family which included two young girls because they werer Coptic Christians. The attackers may be Muslims who had warned the father about being anti -Muslim and pro Christian.

MS-13 and Al Qaeda were meant for each other.

[solution granted]

way are we allowing towns like farmingville, huntington and wherever else to allow groups to hang out at 7/11. Round up all these wetbacks and send them back. Go do a census of the local county jails, and see how many of these shitbags are there.

[liberal hater]

Once they are here, it is too late. The liberals love everyone, like the Al Qaeda who are detained in Gitmo, and the " hard working immigrants". They have too much in common because you don't know who the enemy is. When did we lose sight of the fact that them being here illeagally is just that, ILLEAGAL!!!!!! I agree that most of them are hard workers looking for a better life. All of our ancestors were. But my ancestors went through a process to settle here LEAGALLY. Hard working or not they should pay taxes, and be documented. If you let them them sneak in and don't stop them it is already too late to know who is here or not. Then, if you employ illeagals who do not contribute to taxes and the bankrupt social security system, you are to blame. Those few dollars you save by hiring them to do your yard? You pay more than what you save in extra taxes for THEIR kids to go to school while they don't contribute a dime. Look in the mirror folks, you are just as to blame as the Government who lets them get away with it. It's sad. And let the liberal "love everybodys" pay double in taxes if they want them here so bad. I'm tired of paying for it, and everybody should be too.

[Northport Blues]

our taxes going up and the pols and leftists will always blame the cops----it ain't true but they have to blame anyone but themselves



taxes going up in my community by a thousand dollars a year and thats before they put the low income project at the corner



boy how I dislike those hypocritical bleeding heart pols and their left wing supporters I hear the housing authority giving HUD funds to real estate brokers in town of huntington more corrupt practices than can be ever investigated

[last night news]

feds are looking for 4 Asians who came across the border of Mexico

they may be involved with terrorism may be MS-13 helped them across

[Triphammer]

I'll say this about those little MS13 boogers, they sure know how to clean. The floors and bathrooms at the jails have never been as sanitary as they are now, thanks to the diligent efforts of those lil' gangstaz. Now if only we could get them to teach those other minorities....

[hedgehog]

How about you lazy complainers start mowing your own lawns and hiring contractors who don't use illegals. You create a labor market for illegals and then wonder why they're here.

[don't hedge your bets]

well one thing for certain

this snow storm brought out hundreds of mexican shovelers

they made a good dollar for some heavy shoveling

a generation ago you would have saw hundreds of 12-20 year olds

doing that for a extra buck but no longer

[Not here]

Here in Farmingdale I had five white boys doing house on my street, So there are some hard workering kids out there.

[don't hedge your bets]

mexicans in my neighborhood undercut all the black and white kids willing to do work

The SCPD are a dangerous breed. They are quiet, but they are always plotting and planning.

Tell us something new.

[The Real wabble wouser]

Only thing scheming are the last several posters

we need more cops not less

we need less liberal left wing girlie men who favor criminals more than they favor your average cop or citizen :D

[hedgehog]

Sure - just keep raising those taxes.

Only thing scheming are the last several posters

we need more cops not less

we need less liberal left wing girlie men who favor criminals more than they favor your average cop or citizen :D
What we need is less overpaid, whining SCPD losers who put politics and pay checks over public safety.

[giveitarest]

Overpaid? hardly.
The politics are your C.E., not us. Yesterday 2/3 of the 6th pct was at the explosion in Holtsville.And a nice chunk of the other neighboring pcts plus the special commands.Which means many sectors were unmanned, yes it went well, but the public is at risk, not the police.

[SCPD PATROL 3]

Good job done by the 6th. As was mentioned, the better part of the precinct sector cars were tied up. Did the OIC call in more POs as the PC stated numerous times he/she could? No!! Hmmmm. Who will be the first boss with cajones to do so?

[The Real Wabble Wouser]

Hedgehog and guest don't want more cops and higher taxes Ok.
Now how can we arrange that? They don't want to spend more for government services good.

Then why don't hedgehog and guest complain also about over population? Why don't they complain about the waves of illegal immigrants from all over the globe who come here?

Why don't they complain about all the overdevelopment caused by politicians an developers who keep changing zoning laws to allow greater and greater numbers of people to live in a defined area?

Why don't their ilk complain about illegal dwellings and even some legal ones that aren't even assessed for taxes? Slumlords have thousands of Long Island houses filled from cellar to roof literally with people yet taxes for the houses remain as single family dwelling despite having two, three, four families in them.

Guess where most of the crimes occur? Always in the most densest population areas where the least taxes come from. Maybe hedgehog and guest are slumlords feeding off the trough of illegal immigration?

[its been said before]

a average cop makes the county, state, town, village as much money as he or she earns by the ''minimum'' stats required each month. Dont believe all the politics you read about what we cost.

Hedgehog and guest don't want more cops and higher taxes Ok.
Now how can we arrange that? They don't want to spend more for government services good.

Then why don't hedgehog and guest complain also about over population? Why don't they complain about the waves of illegal immigrants from all over the globe who come here?

Why don't they complain about all the overdevelopment caused by politicians an developers who keep changing zoning laws to allow greater and greater numbers of people to live in a defined area?

Why don't their ilk complain about illegal dwellings and even some legal ones that aren't even assessed for taxes? Slumlords have thousands of Long Island houses filled from cellar to roof literally with people yet taxes for the houses remain as single family dwelling despite having two, three, four families in them.

Guess where most of the crimes occur? Always in the most densest population areas where the least taxes come from. Maybe hedgehog and guest are slumlords feeding off the trough of illegal immigration?

BECAUSE THEY'RE DEMOCRATS!!

[hedgehog]

So let's see - I'm a Democrat. But I want lower taxes. I thought being a Democrat makes me want taxes to go through the roof. Can you dorks make up your minds?

[Real mcj]

Its really very simple. The more people you have live in an area the more in government services you will need. When that happens the increase in taxes is inevitable. Democrats like big government to take care of the people and with all the foreigners allowed to come in to the area you have even that much more of a need for bigger government. Thats more government jobs, raises and bigger tax increases for the middleclass and a decreasing quality of life. But as the slumlords and developers prosper so do our politicians. Just keep those borders open. :twisted:

[hedgehog]

It's really very simple. Everything I've been reading tells me crime is down. If there is less crime, there's less work for cops. If there's less work for cops, you don't need to keep increasing the number of cops. See?

[SCPD 22]

It's really very simple. Everything I've been reading tells me crime is down. If there is less crime, there's less work for cops. If there's less work for cops, you don't need to keep increasing the number of cops. See?

Well how many cops do you think there should be?

How many should be let go?

It's really very simple. Everything I've been reading tells me crime is down. If there is less crime, there's less work for cops. If there's less work for cops, you don't need to keep increasing the number of cops. See?

Exactly what sources have you been getting your statistics from, Newsday? Crime may or not be down. Gang related incidents are definately up. To use your phrase... "Its really very simple" To not at least keep the existing levels of staffing in the Police Department would be disastrous. The people on Long Island have been brain washed into thinking that their taxes are so high because of the police department. Instead of reading Newday this morning, take out yor tax bill and look at how much you pay for police services. I think you'll be surprised. I pay more for cablevision then police. Being that we've found out that Newsday cannot be trusted any longer, stop buying Newsday and you'll save about $300 this year. :D

[public safety.]

Understand at nite there are probably 15 less sworn officers in any pct, if you consider the detectives, cope, and the plainclothes cops. Additionally the various specialised units k-9, e/s etc are also cut back, if not completely shut down. Far less cops are out there at nite.
The citizens are paying the same taxes with or without the additional bodies, and the county will pay more for the special services to be called in on OVERTIME anyway.
Whats sad is its not the police who are going to be hurt but the taxpayer who is waiting 10-15 minutes longer for the police to arrive for their emergency, whatever it is.

[hedgehog]

Folks, just a quick fact here. Fully 25% of the county budget is spent on police.

[SCPD PATROL 3]

Isn't that government's job, first and foremost? Public safety

[wrong.]

Maybe on the police budget, not the police. What did the 2 helicopters cost? How about the Durangos the undercovers, and highway use? Ever see the Highway hummer? The boats? the bikes the county buys us cost 700+.
How much money does a decent cop who writes minimum summons and minimum arrests a month make the county? Its set up so that the minimum stats cover our salary.
Then throw in the aggressive go getters say 2-3 per squad,30-35 in suffolk, who write far more than the minimum, and drag in mulitiple bodies each month. THen the COPE and CRime control who average nearly 100 summons a month, and many have more than 100 arrests a year, about 25 per pct, around 175 in the county. And the detectives who only handle felonies?
Sorry we are not a black hole for the county, we are the cash cows, think about all the desk jobs,lawyers, judges, insurance companies that make their living off our activity.

[Not here]

A cash Cow for the state not the County you work for. All the summons you right who gets the money the State.

This is what has to be changed we have to keep most of the money not the State then you will be the cash Cow. And belive me this I would want after all we are paying for you guys not the State.

[wrong.]

The state gets their share, but so does the county. Go down to 1st district court and see all the county employees working because of our arrests, our summons. Then go to the county tvb court and see the same.
Finally go to all the town, village local courts and see all the folks there paying the summons we gave them there.
We arent the problem, we make the county enough money to cover our salaries.
But there are other costs involved, civilian employees, buildings, lights, fuel, vehicles.

[Real mcj]

Just think of all the lawyers who make a decent salary from all the activities of the police department. If it weren't for the police, lawyers would be out of jobs big time. Lawyers should thank the police for the jobs they do. Lawyers need to survive from the cash cow called government.

[me too.]

lawyers, clerks, secretaries, mechanics, judges, sherriffs, parole, probation, court officers, correction officers, electricians, maintenance, janitors, various supplies companies; oil,gas,electric, paper goods, food, cooks, cleaners all get something off the cops, i work in central records, where you get your accident reports

[hedgehog]

So what you're really saying is look how much cash the criminals generate by getting caught. So the more crime there is, the more money is generated. I get it!

[dont hedge your bets]

They all Make Money From Crime Cause The Tax Payers pay For It

As a Good Liberal Hedgehog you should know How Big Government Is A Boon For Some

But where most criminals come from there are none or little taxes generated to help pay for their evil deeds

An Example: MS -13 gang members living in a single family house filled with 20 other tenants. Landlord makes out like the bandit he is. He pays taxes for a small house designed for 2 adults and 2 kids. He charges rent up to $900 a month per adult and gets taxpayer HUD money For the few legal citizens he has in the House.

WELCOME TO LONGISLAND :twisted:

An Example: MS -13 gang members living in a single family house filled with 20 other tenants. Landlord makes out like the bandit he is. He pays taxes for a small house designed for 2 adults and 2 kids. He charges rent up to $900 a month per adult and gets taxpayer HUD money For the few legal citizens he has in the House
and you look the other way, as long as it doesnt interfere with your salsa lessons, why would you care?

[somebody wrote]

Somebody wrote: Then throw in the aggressive go getters say 2-3 per squad,30-35 in suffolk, who write far more than the minimum, and drag in mulitiple bodies each month.
==============
What is the minimum?

[Gang Terminator]

Suffolk County needs the......GANG TERMINATOR!! A new device which instantly kills gang members like hornet spray. Simply find the gang member, apply a generous amount of GANG TERMINATOR and watch the wet-back dissolve before your very eyes.. You get the spray, the wet-back locateer, and if you call within the next 3 minutes, you'll get a second can of GANG TERMINATOR absolutely free!! That's a 30$ value absolutely FREE. Sorry no C.O.D. :lol:

[nightbeat]

i understand your frustration but lets leave out some of the ethnic nastiness


At the same time Some news reports Claim ---That Mexico and Other countries refuse to Take back harden illegal alien Criminals

Cuba had to take back most of theirs (Harden Violent Criminals)back in the 1980's and 1990's so why Not Mexico and El Salvador and Others?

i understand your frustration but lets leave out some of the ethnic nastiness


At the same time Some news reports Claim ---That Mexico and Other countries refuse to Take back harden illegal alien Criminals

Cuba had to take back most of theirs (Harden Violent Criminals)back in the 1980's and 1990's so why Not Mexico and El Salvador and Others?

Who would cut my lawn?

[GANG TERMINATOR]

We are the GANG TERMINATOR we all have to push law enforcement, and the pols, who are supposed to clean this up?

What is pretty sobering is that we all post here but only some of us do what has to be done to stop gangs, illegal, alien and criminals .

Make your calls send your letters and emails put them on the spot to do what has to be done, I have and I can use some help.

I had to vent. Thanks

[Real Wabble Wouser]

We all can help by supporting this third party that is forming

called the Integrity Party

There Party Platform is from the American Reform Party

Their views are pretty mainstream and are in the center of the political center

This is lacking in the other two major parties

Their against illegal immigration and the corruption in non payment of taxes and the costs to American ( Long Island )taxpayers in all of this

This is the real thing--Third party can siphon votes from parties and their candidates who don't support Integrity Party's Platform

[yoyoyo]

Back to topic

why druggies, gang members, illegal alien criminals, slumlords multiply in Huntington

the town officials see fit to have arrested homeowners with legitimate complaints and then have them drugged against their will

a perfect example why towns should not have their own police force

we can't even trust the code enforcement people in town or public safety officials much less town board :shock:

[BorderOrder]

MS-13 just keeps on growing and growing!!! President Bush Shut our borders NOW ...................

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=ourWorldNews&storyID=7402259

[peace of mind]

how does the current cutback of sector cars at night effect the war on gangs in Huntington Station? :?:

[peace of mind]

how does the current cutback of sector cars at night effect the war on gangs in Huntington Station? :?:

[Huntington Sta.Binder Fan]

County Legislator Allen Binder of the 16th District will host a meeting at the Greenlawn fire department this Thursday night February 10th at 7pm. Fire house is located on 23 Boulevard avenue Greenlawn, Huntington.
This will be a public hearing on the recent decision to cut back sector cars in Huntington.
Also invited to attend along with the public are the Suffolk County Police Commissioner Dormer, PBA head Jeff Frayler, Local Fire Department Heads, Rescue Squads and EMT's.

[Who's On First]

Is it Levy and Dormer ganging up on the PBA (no pun intended) or is it the other way around, PBA is ganging up on Levy and Dormer again (no pun intended) :?

[Huntingtons Downfall]

With less cops for us I just wonder if more Gang members will be able To Get More Affordable Housing :?:

[I'M DAZED AND CONFUSED]

Levy and Dormer say crime is down in Huntington

State, federal governments say gang activity is increasing with more members, recruitment, crime in area


SO WHICH IS IT :?: :?

[CRIME SPREE.]

State, federal governments say gang activity is increasing with more members, recruitment, crime in area
Buy a police scanner and listen for yourself. I live in coram, apparently last night the gang unit tore up gordon heights(again)
about 10 arrests in 4-5 hours, then I turned in for the nite.

[NBC News Watcher]

They said there are fresh reports that Al Qaeda wants to come into the USA across the Mexican border.

Also 1/3 of prisoners in prison in USA are illegal aliens.

In Huntington they took away some of our police protection.

The Dems Petroned us and the police. :shock:

[dems r funny]

if MS-13 can bring Al Qaeda into our neighborhoods why are the dems reducing my police coverage :?:

[Job Well Done]

Great Law Enforcement To catch those illegal alien child molesters.

Now to deport them out of the country.

[second floor grunt]

in Huntington congressman Israel as usual getting good media coverage

he is laying blame for recent cutbacks in the federal budget by the Bush Administration as the cause of not being able to fight gangs in Huntington Station

do the police really buy that?

Dormer and Levy just sent out a flyer to members of my community saying that crime in Huntington has been reduced by as much as 40% these last several months

If that be the case then why all the hype from Israel and Petrone and the media?

Looks to many people that the DEMOCRATS what it both ways

Dormer and Levy just sent out a flyer to members of my community saying that crime in Huntington has been reduced by as much as 40% these last several months
Yeah theres a reason for that, when its freezing out and you are used to 70 degree nights,in the land you live in LEGALLY, its hard to go around and do gang things, who wants to touch a 32 degree trigger to shoot some guys, or a 32 degree knife, all that fun stuff can wait until spring. Its always quieter in winter, kids have school, college, etc.

[Praise For The Righteous]

The roundup of convicted criminals who are illegal aliens should be met with praise from the community.

Despite what Newsday and Ramirez try to make it out to be the fact is it makes all of our communities safer.

It is a privilege to be in this country. To be here illegally and then to commit criminal acts and be allowed to remain here is outlandish.

Nice to see the county and the cops work with the feds to rid all our neighborhoods of these evil people. Its about time. There is absolutely no defense for having depraved illegal aliens in our county much less Suffolk County.

[ed777]

In Nassau and Suffolk Counties the residents are fully behind our Police Depts. These Gangs must know that when one of our Officers Blast one of these animals we will support them 100% not like NYc

[Yo President Bush Please]

They're Not Vigilantes,

They're Undocumented Border Patrol Workers :)

maybe some minutemen on the streets would be nice... guardian angels with weapons.. ahh nice thought.. make the mentioned communities nice again.. ahh nice thought

Cliques of MS13

HLS: Hempstead Locotes Salvatruchos - Hempstead, NY

NLS: Normandies Locotes Salvatruchos - Westbury, NY

PLS: Pelones Locotes Salvatruchos - Westbury, NY

FMS: Familia Mara Salvatrucha - Westbury, NY

MLS: Mineola Locotes Salvatruchos - Mineola, NY

FLS: Familia Locotes Salvatruchos - Freeport, NY

FLS: Freeport Locotes Salvatruchos - Freeport, NY

HCS: Hicksville Coronados Salvatruchos - Hicksville, NY

RLS: Roosevelt Locotes Salvatruchos - Roosevelt, NY

ULS: Uniondale Locotes Salvatruchos - Uniondale, NY

HCLS: Huntington Criminal Locotes Salvatruchos - Huntington, NY

BLS: Brentwood Locotes Salvatruchos - Brentwood, NY

CILS: Central Islip Locotes Salvatruchos - Central Islip, NY

CLS: Copaigue Locotes Salvatruchos - Copaigue, NY

CLS: Coronados Locotes Salvatruchos - Westbury, NY

CLS: Coronados Locotes Salvatruchos - Jamaica, Queens, NY

CMS: Coronados Mara Salvatrucha - Forrest Hills, Queens, NY

JCLS: Jamaica Central Locotes Salvatruchos - Jamaica, Queens, NY

SLS: Surenos Locotes Salvatruchos - Far Rockaway, Queens, NY

BMS: Brooklyn Mara Salvatrucha - Sunset Park, Brooklyn, NY

ALS: Adams St. Locotes Salvatruchos - Los Angeles, California

VNLS: Valle Nuevo Locotes Salvatruchos - El Salvador, Central America

Cliques of MS13

HLS: Hempstead Locotes Salvatruchos - Hempstead, NY

NLS: Normandies Locotes Salvatruchos - Westbury, NY

PLS: Pelones Locotes Salvatruchos - Westbury, NY

FMS: Familia Mara Salvatrucha - Westbury, NY

MLS: Mineola Locotes Salvatruchos - Mineola, NY

FLS: Familia Locotes Salvatruchos - Freeport, NY

FLS: Freeport Locotes Salvatruchos - Freeport, NY

HCS: Hicksville Coronados Salvatruchos - Hicksville, NY

RLS: Roosevelt Locotes Salvatruchos - Roosevelt, NY

ULS: Uniondale Locotes Salvatruchos - Uniondale, NY

HCLS: Huntington Criminal Locotes Salvatruchos - Huntington, NY

BLS: Brentwood Locotes Salvatruchos - Brentwood, NY

CILS: Central Islip Locotes Salvatruchos - Central Islip, NY

CLS: Copaigue Locotes Salvatruchos - Copaigue, NY

CLS: Coronados Locotes Salvatruchos - Westbury, NY

CLS: Coronados Locotes Salvatruchos - Jamaica, Queens, NY

CMS: Coronados Mara Salvatrucha - Forrest Hills, Queens, NY

JCLS: Jamaica Central Locotes Salvatruchos - Jamaica, Queens, NY

SLS: Surenos Locotes Salvatruchos - Far Rockaway, Queens, NY

BMS: Brooklyn Mara Salvatrucha - Sunset Park, Brooklyn, NY

ALS: Adams St. Locotes Salvatruchos - Los Angeles, California

VNLS: Valle Nuevo Locotes Salvatruchos - El Salvador, Central America

[ms x3]

fuck every one who does not like ms 13 no it wont stopCliques of MS13

HLS: Hempstead Locotes Salvatruchos - Hempstead, NY

NLS: Normandies Locotes Salvatruchos - Westbury, NY

PLS: Pelones Locotes Salvatruchos - Westbury, NY

FMS: Familia Mara Salvatrucha - Westbury, NY

MLS: Mineola Locotes Salvatruchos - Mineola, NY

FLS: Familia Locotes Salvatruchos - Freeport, NY

FLS: Freeport Locotes Salvatruchos - Freeport, NY

HCS: Hicksville Coronados Salvatruchos - Hicksville, NY

RLS: Roosevelt Locotes Salvatruchos - Roosevelt, NY

ULS: Uniondale Locotes Salvatruchos - Uniondale, NY

HCLS: Huntington Criminal Locotes Salvatruchos - Huntington, NY

BLS: Brentwood Locotes Salvatruchos - Brentwood, NY

CILS: Central Islip Locotes Salvatruchos - Central Islip, NY

CLS: Copaigue Locotes Salvatruchos - Copaigue, NY

CLS: Coronados Locotes Salvatruchos - Westbury, NY

CLS: Coronados Locotes Salvatruchos - Jamaica, Queens, NY

CMS: Coronados Mara Salvatrucha - Forrest Hills, Queens, NY

JCLS: Jamaica Central Locotes Salvatruchos - Jamaica, Queens, NY

SLS: Surenos Locotes Salvatruchos - Far Rockaway, Queens, NY

BMS: Brooklyn Mara Salvatrucha - Sunset Park, Brooklyn, NY

ALS: Adams St. Locotes Salvatruchos - Los Angeles, California

VNLS: Valle Nuevo Locotes Salvatruchos - El Salvador, Central America

In Nassau and Suffolk Counties the residents are fully behind our Police Depts. These Gangs must know that when one of our Officers Blast one of these animals we will support them 100% not like NYc

Can I Sue The Police?

Frequently Asked Civil Rights Questions

Under Title 42 U.S. Code Section 1983, the federal civil rights civil statute, individuals may file lawsuits against an offending officer, police department, or jurisdiction. Although the federal law, Section 1983, is used most frequently, plaintiffs may also use state-level statutes in bringing abuse lawsuits. The statute mandates that:

Any person who, under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress.

Although the federal law, Section 1983, is used most frequently, plaintiffs may also use state-level statutes in bringing abuse lawsuits.

What is a Civil Rights Case?

A civil rights case consists of those cases which protect the rights of people, where the rights are derived from constitutional law. Many laws are created from local governments or from judges. However, Civil Rights law flows from the U.S. Constitution. With regards to civil rights, this internet cite concerns only those civil rights which concern police misconduct also known, in some situations as Police Brutality.

What is a Police Misconduct Case?

Police officers, just like any human being, make mistakes. Some of their errors are very serious and abusive, others are just careless. The area of law concerning police misconduct concerns situations like excessive force (an officer hurts someone unnecessarily), false arrest and malicious prosecution. These are the most common cases that are filed in the Court system.

Excessive Force Cases

A police officer acts with excessive force when he/she uses an amount of force with regards to a civilian that is more then necessary. Police officers are certainly permitted to use force and in some situations, deadly force. However, there are times when officers misuse their authority and injure someone without a justified reason. For example, take a situation where an officer stops an elderly gentleman for speeding. The officer asks the driver to get out of the car and while the driver opens the car door, the officer yanks him up from his seat and throws him against the car. This would be an example of excessive force. As there would be no need to cause injury to the driver of the car, the officer would be liable for using excessive force (here, liable means legally responsible in a court of law for damages that the driver suffers from officer’s abuse).

False Arrest

Generally speaking, an arrest is defined as any type of situation that you are involved in with an officer where you are not free to leave. If you are under arrest, the next question that should then be asked is what is the reason for the arrest. If the officer does not have a valid reason for arresting you, then you may have a false arrest claim. Take the following example. A police officer sees a young lad standing on the corner, alone, minding his own business. The officer comes up to young man and tells him that he must submit to a search (pat down search). The boy says no and the officer tells him that he must submit. The boy again says no and the officer forces him into the squad car and takes him down to the station. After searching the boy at the station and checking his background, the officer releases him. The young man has a valid false arrest claim. He was arrested without any valid basis whatsoever and brought down into the station.
A valid federal claim and state law claim could be pursued and won, assuming that these facts could be proven at trial.

Malicious Prosecution

A malicious prosecution claim is similar to a false arrest claim. In this type of case, the officer arrests an individual for no valid reason and then initiates a criminal complaint against the innocent person. Typical cases in this regard are Aggravated Battery cases. Here, an officer for no good reason, strikes a civilian. The civilian blocks the strike and hits back. The officer then tackles the civilian and arrests him and charges him with striking the officer – known as Aggravated Battery. After the criminal case is over (and preferably won) the innocent civilian may lodge a civil rights case against the officer for excessive force, false arrest and malicious prosecution.

What if my case is not so clear cut?

Many people don’t understand what it takes to win a police misconduct case. First, the law can be quite confusing. Second, there is frequently a difference from what it is that can be proven as opposed to what happened. For example, a police brutality case would be stronger if there was an independent witness to observe an officers abuse. Frequently, there are no witnesses and the case must be proven through other means. Take, for example, the factual scenario of the gentleman (above) in the excessive force case. If the police officer fails to detail anything in his report to justify his actions and the driver goes to the emergency room for injuries immediately after his interaction with the officer, then the case may easily be proven. So, the most important thing to do when confronted with a situation involving police misconduct is CONSULT A LAWYER. Don’t leave it to your own decision making process to determine whether you would be able to win a case in court. The law as well as the manner by which your case can be proven is complicated. Get some free advice as you will be better off.

Examples Of Illegal Conduct Police Have Been Sued For

Johnson v. Village of Willowbrook

Largest police misconduct verdict for pat-down search in Illinois: $112,000.00 for woman who was searched (over the clothes) by two Caucasian police officers because she had expired license plates.

North Carolina: After 12-year-old Amanda Cope of Rock Hill was found raped and beaten to death in her own bed in 2001, her father Billy was subjected to 4 days of unrecorded, non-stop interrogation, until he confessed on videotape. In 2003, DNA matched the semen found in Amanda to James Sanders, a sex offender who moved to the Copes' neighborhood shortly before Amanda's murder. So the state has amended the charges against Billy to conspiracy because You Can't Waste a Coerced False Confession. (http://www.truthinjustice.org/cope.htm)

ATTITUDE SHIFT

There is a pattern that is repeating itself in jurisdiction after jurisdiction. Jurors are regularly rejecting the testimony of police officers and awarding substantial damages to plaintiffs claiming police responsibility for personal injuries, deaths and violations of civil rights.

"Jurors used to come in predisposed to believe the police," says Arturo J. Gonzalez of San Francisco's Morrison & Foerster, who has handled numerous cases against police departments. "Now jurors are more neutral and some are even predisposed to disbelieving police."

"For many, many decades, police enjoyed the benefit of the doubt with the American public," says John Smathers of Laurel, Md.'s McGowan, Cecil & Smathers, who won a $4 million excessive force verdict last year. "Today, the American public is more willing to look at officers and citizens on an equal footing."

This skepticism has improved the odds for plaintiffs' lawyers to pursue these lawsuits against the police in court. In the past two years, juries have awarded a series of verdicts against the police in a wide variety of cases.

In late 1999, a Washington, D.C., jury ordered the city police department to pay $98.1 million for the failure to protect an informant.

In 2000, a New York jury awarded $92 million to a young man who was rendered paraplegic when shot by an off-duty police officer.

Awards in 2001 include:

• $6 million in an excessive force-wrongful death action in Detroit, in which the defense claimed the victim shot by an off-duty officer was not only drunk but had attempted to run down the officer with his Jeep.

• $1 million in Baltimore in an excessive force case in which the only physical injury was a broken wrist.

• $8 million in Oregon to a woman who was shot by a state trooper who had pulled her over for speeding.

All of the juries were presented with conflicting reports of the events and chose the one offered by the plaintiffs.

The trend toward disbelieving the police has also led to swifter, and ever-larger, pretrial settlements, says Johnnie Cochran of Los Angeles' Cochran, Cherry, Givens & Smith.

In April, Cochran was a member of a team of lawyers who won an $18 million settlement from the city of Chicago over the shooting death of a young woman. The case settled just before trial, he says, after the city discovered through a focus group that a massive verdict was nearly guaranteed.

The single most important factor in changing juror attitudes toward the police was the 1991 beating of Rodney King, according to plaintiffs' lawyers. "Rodney King was something that everybody saw," says Gonzalez. "It changed national perceptions." But this has been reinforced by other, more recent, incidents, he says.

"Since then you've had Ruby Ridge, Waco, the guy in New York who was shot 26 times," and the Abner Louima case, he says. Others include the Rampart Division scandal in Los Angeles and episodes involving Gonzalez's clients, including the parents of an 11-year-old boy killed when shot in the back during a police raid on his home.

The growing recognition that these incidents happen and the rising size of settlements and verdicts have encouraged prospective plaintiffs to file cases against the police, says Cochran: "The police no longer have this aura of invincibility."

Plaintiffs' lawyers are also more willing to take cases, says Gonzalez. "Ten years ago, it was literally impossible for someone to find a lawyer to take a civil rights case on the part of a Latino," he says. "Now, if the plaintiff looks credible, plaintiffs' lawyers are more willing to roll the dice."

There are no figures on how many suits are being filed, but plaintiffs' lawyers confirm that numbers are rising. Cochran now has about 250 cases pending against police departments and government agencies nationwide over police misconduct. Pettit reports that "we're averaging about 25 to 40 calls a week in my office," from prospective plaintiffs seeking to file claims.

Not just the number of cases, but the size of verdicts is rising, says Cochran. "All over the country, we're seeing bigger numbers."

A false arrest-false imprisonment case in California may be the poster child for how verdicts and settlements against police agencies have risen over the past decade. Los Angeles police deputies arrested two Pico Rivera, Calif., couples in 1984 and charged them with child molestation. Nearly all the children recanted and the charges were dismissed at the preliminary hearing.

The two couples sued the county and in 1990 a Los Angeles jury awarded the plaintiffs $3.7 million. This was reversed and retried in 1995. The verdict then was $7.3 million. This was reversed as well and set for retrial. One couple settled for $4 million and the second couple, Tim and Helen O'Keefe, went to trial for a third time in 2000. The verdict this time was for $13.5 million. The O'Keefes settled in April for $9.9 million. Valentin v. County of Los Angeles, C 529739 (Super. Ct., Los Angeles).

There are more settlements today, largely because of the fear of facing juries, Cochran adds. In New York, this factor is clearly affecting litigation, says Fay Leoussis, chief of the city's torts division. The negative publicity over the Louima and Amadou Diallo police brutality cases has changed the city's response to such lawsuits. "As part of our risk management, we've been settling rather than taking these cases to the jury."

The testimony of officers at trial has also damaged their credibility, says Gonzalez. "In the cases I've had, police witnesses will say something that is blatantly untrue. And this reinforces what people now suspect -- that the police lie."

Gonzalez recently represented the family of Ramon Gallardo, a 64-year-old man who was killed in a SWAT team raid on his home. The police brought his wife to the police station and "interrogated her in the basement for four hours after her husband was shot," he says. In testifying in the Gallardo case, says Gonzalez, "the police chief said he treated Mrs. Gallardo the way he'd want his mother to be treated. This was obviously false." The Fresno, Calif., jury was so angry, he says, that in 1999, it awarded the Gallardo family $12.6 million, the largest verdict ever for a Latino against the police. The case has since been settled for $6 million. Gallardo v. Reinnecius, Civ. F 97 6111 (E.D. Calif.).

VIDEO EVIDENCE

The rising use of videotape has had a significant effect in improving the odds for plaintiffs, says Peter Grenier of Washington, D.C.'s Bode & Grenier, who won that $98.1 million verdict against the D.C. police. "A lot more hard evidence is being created."

Grenier recently won a $5 million settlement from the city of Asbury Park, N.J., over the suicide death of a man in police custody. Michael Watkins, a 20-year-old recovering drug addict, had been placed in an Asbury Park jail cell with the police neither confiscating his shoelaces nor determining what medications he needed. A camera posted in the Asbury Park jail would record each cell for eight seconds then move onto the next cell. Through nine minutes of the videotape, the camera kept going back to Watkins as he was hanging himself with the laces, but none of the guards looked at the screen, Grenier reports. The guards eventually responded. They cut him down and resuscitated him.

But this came too late. "He's now 24 and in a persistent vegetative state," the lawyer says. A suit against the city was to begin on June 11 but settled.

The next wave, Cochran notes, will be in lawsuits and judgments against police departments "over shoddy, overzealous prosecutions." The settlements in the Rampart case in Los Angeles, he says, will likely top $100 million.

Plaintiffs' attorneys are becoming more creative and pushing more esoteric claims. In Ohio, the family of a woman killed by her boyfriend sued the village of Blanchester and its police chief for failing to pursue a hunt for her body. The body was never found and the family charged a violation of their constitutional property rights in preserving "the remains of their loved one," says plaintiffs' attorney Alphonse A. Gerhardstein of Cincinnati's Laufman & Gerhardstein. In February, a Cincinnati jury awarded $3.75 million. Culberson v. Doan, C-1-97-965 (S.D. Ohio).

But while jurors are more receptive and plaintiffs' attorneys more inventive, there are obstacles remaining in pursuing these cases.

Depending on the jurisdiction or the claim, there can be sovereign immunity for the police department, qualified immunity for individual police officers or a daunting burden of proof.

Federal case law may block recovery in certain actions, says Gerhardstein. A 1998 U.S. Supreme Court decision on police responsibility in deaths or injuries caused by police chases, for example, raised the bar considerably, he notes.

The verdicts aren't always sustained on appeal. Grenier's $98 million verdict was cut to just over $1 million. Smathers' $4.1 million verdict was sliced to $1.6 million, and that $1 million broken wrist verdict was remitted by 90 percent.

Where the case is filed depends on the facts, says Gonzalez. Excessive force cases are often better pursued in federal courts, as violations of the Fourth or 14th amendments, he believes.

Gerhardstein notes that federal courts are generally more receptive to any actions against the police.

DO I HAVE A LIFE SINCE THE DEPT FIRED ME ?

Frequently Asked Civil Rights Questions

Under Title 42 U.S. Code Section 1983, the federal civil rights civil statute, individuals may file lawsuits against an offending officer, police department, or jurisdiction. Although the federal law, Section 1983, is used most frequently, plaintiffs may also use state-level statutes in bringing abuse lawsuits. The statute mandates that:

Any person who, under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress.

Although the federal law, Section 1983, is used most frequently, plaintiffs may also use state-level statutes in bringing abuse lawsuits.

What is a Civil Rights Case?

A civil rights case consists of those cases which protect the rights of people, where the rights are derived from constitutional law. Many laws are created from local governments or from judges. However, Civil Rights law flows from the U.S. Constitution. With regards to civil rights, this internet cite concerns only those civil rights which concern police misconduct also known, in some situations as Police Brutality.

What is a Police Misconduct Case?

Police officers, just like any human being, make mistakes. Some of their errors are very serious and abusive, others are just careless. The area of law concerning police misconduct concerns situations like excessive force (an officer hurts someone unnecessarily), false arrest and malicious prosecution. These are the most common cases that are filed in the Court system.

Excessive Force Cases

A police officer acts with excessive force when he/she uses an amount of force with regards to a civilian that is more then necessary. Police officers are certainly permitted to use force and in some situations, deadly force. However, there are times when officers misuse their authority and injure someone without a justified reason. For example, take a situation where an officer stops an elderly gentleman for speeding. The officer asks the driver to get out of the car and while the driver opens the car door, the officer yanks him up from his seat and throws him against the car. This would be an example of excessive force. As there would be no need to cause injury to the driver of the car, the officer would be liable for using excessive force (here, liable means legally responsible in a court of law for damages that the driver suffers from officer’s abuse).

False Arrest

Generally speaking, an arrest is defined as any type of situation that you are involved in with an officer where you are not free to leave. If you are under arrest, the next question that should then be asked is what is the reason for the arrest. If the officer does not have a valid reason for arresting you, then you may have a false arrest claim. Take the following example. A police officer sees a young lad standing on the corner, alone, minding his own business. The officer comes up to young man and tells him that he must submit to a search (pat down search). The boy says no and the officer tells him that he must submit. The boy again says no and the officer forces him into the squad car and takes him down to the station. After searching the boy at the station and checking his background, the officer releases him. The young man has a valid false arrest claim. He was arrested without any valid basis whatsoever and brought down into the station.
A valid federal claim and state law claim could be pursued and won, assuming that these facts could be proven at trial.

Malicious Prosecution

A malicious prosecution claim is similar to a false arrest claim. In this type of case, the officer arrests an individual for no valid reason and then initiates a criminal complaint against the innocent person. Typical cases in this regard are Aggravated Battery cases. Here, an officer for no good reason, strikes a civilian. The civilian blocks the strike and hits back. The officer then tackles the civilian and arrests him and charges him with striking the officer – known as Aggravated Battery. After the criminal case is over (and preferably won) the innocent civilian may lodge a civil rights case against the officer for excessive force, false arrest and malicious prosecution.

What if my case is not so clear cut?

Many people don’t understand what it takes to win a police misconduct case. First, the law can be quite confusing. Second, there is frequently a difference from what it is that can be proven as opposed to what happened. For example, a police brutality case would be stronger if there was an independent witness to observe an officers abuse. Frequently, there are no witnesses and the case must be proven through other means. Take, for example, the factual scenario of the gentleman (above) in the excessive force case. If the police officer fails to detail anything in his report to justify his actions and the driver goes to the emergency room for injuries immediately after his interaction with the officer, then the case may easily be proven. So, the most important thing to do when confronted with a situation involving police misconduct is CONSULT A LAWYER. Don’t leave it to your own decision making process to determine whether you would be able to win a case in court. The law as well as the manner by which your case can be proven is complicated. Get some free advice as you will be better off.

IF AFTER LOSING MY POLICE JOB I HAD SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO DO WOULD I CUT AND PASTE EVERY ARTICLE ANTI- POLICE I COULD FIND

Johnson v. Village of Willowbrook

Largest police misconduct verdict for pat-down search in Illinois: $112,000.00 for woman who was searched (over the clothes) by two Caucasian police officers because she had expired license plates.

North Carolina: After 12-year-old Amanda Cope of Rock Hill was found raped and beaten to death in her own bed in 2001, her father Billy was subjected to 4 days of unrecorded, non-stop interrogation, until he confessed on videotape. In 2003, DNA matched the semen found in Amanda to James Sanders, a sex offender who moved to the Copes' neighborhood shortly before Amanda's murder. So the state has amended the charges against Billy to conspiracy because You Can't Waste a Coerced False Confession.

ATTITUDE SHIFT

There is a pattern that is repeating itself in jurisdiction after jurisdiction. Jurors are regularly rejecting the testimony of police officers and awarding substantial damages to plaintiffs claiming police responsibility for personal injuries, deaths and violations of civil rights.

"Jurors used to come in predisposed to believe the police," says Arturo J. Gonzalez of San Francisco's Morrison & Foerster, who has handled numerous cases against police departments. "Now jurors are more neutral and some are even predisposed to disbelieving police."

"For many, many decades, police enjoyed the benefit of the doubt with the American public," says John Smathers of Laurel, Md.'s McGowan, Cecil & Smathers, who won a $4 million excessive force verdict last year. "Today, the American public is more willing to look at officers and citizens on an equal footing."

This skepticism has improved the odds for plaintiffs' lawyers to pursue these lawsuits against the police in court. In the past two years, juries have awarded a series of verdicts against the police in a wide variety of cases.

In late 1999, a Washington, D.C., jury ordered the city police department to pay $98.1 million for the failure to protect an informant.

In 2000, a New York jury awarded $92 million to a young man who was rendered paraplegic when shot by an off-duty police officer.

Awards in 2001 include:

• $6 million in an excessive force-wrongful death action in Detroit, in which the defense claimed the victim shot by an off-duty officer was not only drunk but had attempted to run down the officer with his Jeep.

• $1 million in Baltimore in an excessive force case in which the only physical injury was a broken wrist.

• $8 million in Oregon to a woman who was shot by a state trooper who had pulled her over for speeding.

All of the juries were presented with conflicting reports of the events and chose the one offered by the plaintiffs.

The trend toward disbelieving the police has also led to swifter, and ever-larger, pretrial settlements, says Johnnie Cochran of Los Angeles' Cochran, Cherry, Givens & Smith.

In April, Cochran was a member of a team of lawyers who won an $18 million settlement from the city of Chicago over the shooting death of a young woman. The case settled just before trial, he says, after the city discovered through a focus group that a massive verdict was nearly guaranteed.

The single most important factor in changing juror attitudes toward the police was the 1991 beating of Rodney King, according to plaintiffs' lawyers. "Rodney King was something that everybody saw," says Gonzalez. "It changed national perceptions." But this has been reinforced by other, more recent, incidents, he says.

"Since then you've had Ruby Ridge, Waco, the guy in New York who was shot 26 times," and the Abner Louima case, he says. Others include the Rampart Division scandal in Los Angeles and episodes involving Gonzalez's clients, including the parents of an 11-year-old boy killed when shot in the back during a police raid on his home.

The growing recognition that these incidents happen and the rising size of settlements and verdicts have encouraged prospective plaintiffs to file cases against the police, says Cochran: "The police no longer have this aura of invincibility."

Plaintiffs' lawyers are also more willing to take cases, says Gonzalez. "Ten years ago, it was literally impossible for someone to find a lawyer to take a civil rights case on the part of a Latino," he says. "Now, if the plaintiff looks credible, plaintiffs' lawyers are more willing to roll the dice."

There are no figures on how many suits are being filed, but plaintiffs' lawyers confirm that numbers are rising. Cochran now has about 250 cases pending against police departments and government agencies nationwide over police misconduct. Pettit reports that "we're averaging about 25 to 40 calls a week in my office," from prospective plaintiffs seeking to file claims.

Not just the number of cases, but the size of verdicts is rising, says Cochran. "All over the country, we're seeing bigger numbers."

A false arrest-false imprisonment case in California may be the poster child for how verdicts and settlements against police agencies have risen over the past decade. Los Angeles police deputies arrested two Pico Rivera, Calif., couples in 1984 and charged them with child molestation. Nearly all the children recanted and the charges were dismissed at the preliminary hearing.

The two couples sued the county and in 1990 a Los Angeles jury awarded the plaintiffs $3.7 million. This was reversed and retried in 1995. The verdict then was $7.3 million. This was reversed as well and set for retrial. One couple settled for $4 million and the second couple, Tim and Helen O'Keefe, went to trial for a third time in 2000. The verdict this time was for $13.5 million. The O'Keefes settled in April for $9.9 million. Valentin v. County of Los Angeles, C 529739 (Super. Ct., Los Angeles).

There are more settlements today, largely because of the fear of facing juries, Cochran adds. In New York, this factor is clearly affecting litigation, says Fay Leoussis, chief of the city's torts division. The negative publicity over the Louima and Amadou Diallo police brutality cases has changed the city's response to such lawsuits. "As part of our risk management, we've been settling rather than taking these cases to the jury."

The testimony of officers at trial has also damaged their credibility, says Gonzalez. "In the cases I've had, police witnesses will say something that is blatantly untrue. And this reinforces what people now suspect -- that the police lie."

Gonzalez recently represented the family of Ramon Gallardo, a 64-year-old man who was killed in a SWAT team raid on his home. The police brought his wife to the police station and "interrogated her in the basement for four hours after her husband was shot," he says. In testifying in the Gallardo case, says Gonzalez, "the police chief said he treated Mrs. Gallardo the way he'd want his mother to be treated. This was obviously false." The Fresno, Calif., jury was so angry, he says, that in 1999, it awarded the Gallardo family $12.6 million, the largest verdict ever for a Latino against the police. The case has since been settled for $6 million. Gallardo v. Reinnecius, Civ. F 97 6111 (E.D. Calif.).

VIDEO EVIDENCE

The rising use of videotape has had a significant effect in improving the odds for plaintiffs, says Peter Grenier of Washington, D.C.'s Bode & Grenier, who won that $98.1 million verdict against the D.C. police. "A lot more hard evidence is being created."

Grenier recently won a $5 million settlement from the city of Asbury Park, N.J., over the suicide death of a man in police custody. Michael Watkins, a 20-year-old recovering drug addict, had been placed in an Asbury Park jail cell with the police neither confiscating his shoelaces nor determining what medications he needed. A camera posted in the Asbury Park jail would record each cell for eight seconds then move onto the next cell. Through nine minutes of the videotape, the camera kept going back to Watkins as he was hanging himself with the laces, but none of the guards looked at the screen, Grenier reports. The guards eventually responded. They cut him down and resuscitated him.

But this came too late. "He's now 24 and in a persistent vegetative state," the lawyer says. A suit against the city was to begin on June 11 but settled.

The next wave, Cochran notes, will be in lawsuits and judgments against police departments "over shoddy, overzealous prosecutions." The settlements in the Rampart case in Los Angeles, he says, will likely top $100 million.

Plaintiffs' attorneys are becoming more creative and pushing more esoteric claims. In Ohio, the family of a woman killed by her boyfriend sued the village of Blanchester and its police chief for failing to pursue a hunt for her body. The body was never found and the family charged a violation of their constitutional property rights in preserving "the remains of their loved one," says plaintiffs' attorney Alphonse A. Gerhardstein of Cincinnati's Laufman & Gerhardstein. In February, a Cincinnati jury awarded $3.75 million. Culberson v. Doan, C-1-97-965 (S.D. Ohio).

But while jurors are more receptive and plaintiffs' attorneys more inventive, there are obstacles remaining in pursuing these cases.

Depending on the jurisdiction or the claim, there can be sovereign immunity for the police department, qualified immunity for individual police officers or a daunting burden of proof.

Federal case law may block recovery in certain actions, says Gerhardstein. A 1998 U.S. Supreme Court decision on police responsibility in deaths or injuries caused by police chases, for example, raised the bar considerably, he notes.

The verdicts aren't always sustained on appeal. Grenier's $98 million verdict was cut to just over $1 million. Smathers' $4.1 million verdict was sliced to $1.6 million, and that $1 million broken wrist verdict was remitted by 90 percent.

Where the case is filed depends on the facts, says Gonzalez. Excessive force cases are often better pursued in federal courts, as violations of the Fourth or 14th amendments, he believes.

Gerhardstein notes that federal courts are generally more receptive to any actions against the police.AM I ASKING QUESTIONS WE ALL KNOW THE ANSWER TO?
Yes that is why you be up at 420 am trolling here, child

[average Jane]

PLEASE CLOSE THE FRIGGIN BORDER :x


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Monday, August 1, 2005
Mexican Drug Mercenaries Operating in U.S.
Posted by James Joyner at 07:01
The "Zetas," a group of Mexican commandos trained by the United States as an elite anti-narcotics force, is now operating in U.S. border towns as mercenaries for the drug cartels.

Mexican mercenaries expand base into U.S.A. (Washington Times)

A renegade band of Mexican military deserters, offering $50,000 bounties for the assassination of U.S. law-enforcement officers, has expanded its base of operations into the United States to protect loads of cocaine and marijuana being brought into America by Mexican smugglers, authorities said. The deserters, known as the "Zetas," trained in the United States as an elite force of anti-drug commandos, but have since signed on as mercenaries for Mexican narcotics traffickers and have recruited an army of followers, many of whom are believed to be operating in Texas, Arizona, California and Florida.

Working mainly for the Gulf Cartel, one of Mexico's most dangerous drug-trafficking organizations, as many as 200 Zeta members are thought to be involved, including former Mexican federal, state and local police. They are suspected in more than 90 deaths of rival gang members and others, including police officers, in the past two years in a violent drug war to control U.S. smuggling routes.

The organization's hub, law-enforcement authorities said, is Nuevo Laredo, a border city of 300,000 across from Laredo, Texas. It is the most active port-of-entry along the U.S.-Mexico border, with more than 6,000 trucks crossing daily into Texas, carrying about 40 percent of Mexico's total exports. Authorities said the Zetas control the city despite efforts by Mexican President Vicente Fox to restore order. He sent hundreds of Mexican troops and federal agents to the city in March to set up highway checkpoints and conduct raids on suspected Zeta locations.

Despite the presence of law enforcement, more than 100 killings have occurred in the city since Jan. 1, including that of former Police Chief Alejandro Dominguez, 52, gunned down June 8, just seven hours after he was sworn in. The city's new chief, Omar Pimentel, 37, escaped death during a drive-by shooting on his first day, although one of his bodyguards was killed.

Authorities said the Zetas operate over a wide area of the U.S.-Mexico border and are suspected in at least three drug-related slayings in the Dallas area. They said as many as 10 Zeta members are operating inside Texas as Gulf Cartel assassins, seeking to protect nearly $10 million in daily drug transactions. "

[Taco's Waco Paco]

I heard at least 40 or more American Citizens have been abducted in Neuvo Laredo Mexico just across from laredo Texas USA.

Could this be a harbinger to come to American cities :?: :x

Talked to a friend down south huge ms problem down there. Its gotta get taken care of here before things get really bad.