What is going on in Farmingdale?

[New to FDALE]

This Saturday night there was a drive by shooting in the Village of Farmingdale at 150 Secatogue . It was Gangs MS13 and SWP In a red Honda and the shooter lives in Farmingdale. Gangs to the left om Gangs to the right of me What can we do???

[nothing]

It will never change, move out or deal with it. You should have done a little investigating before moving in, gangs are nothing new in that area.

[Zapped]

and by monday morning the shooter was arrested by the police.....good work!

[Fly on the wall]

Hey zapped can you tell us more that went on? what gang was the shooter from, were was he arrested.
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[fdaler]

is where is all of this being reported in the news?? Who and why is keeping all of this hush, hush. Turn on News 12 and you get drive by shootings in Hempstead reported. What's up with Farmingdale.......no one killed??

What's the FULL story. There will be a GANG Awareness seminar at Howitt Middle School on Tuesday, Dec. 7th. Wonder if they will talk about this.
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[Truth]

FARMINGDALE IS LOADED WITH SAVAGES...thanks to the many low income illegal apartments...its almost as bad as Hicksville. :">
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[In the Know]

Were are all of the illegal apartments? The Village is out checking for illegal apartments every day. Call the Village with your info.
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[Truth]

Between RT 106 and Rt 110....all savages
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[In the Know]

Between RT 106 and Rt 110....all savages What the hell ar you talking about? Rt 106 is notin Fdale.
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[Truth]

You must be a part savage.
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[Huntington Sam]

take a look at Huntington Station and even now any major thoroughfare in the town

we have local town businesses buying single family houses and putting in 6 families usually illegal aliens but some legal immigrants to

some of these same slumlords oh I mean landlords collect our taxdollars through HUD programs what a racket, some landlords live on many acres estates

some of these landlords have even been town employees
some of them also get HUD money for supposed work they do hahahahahehehehe yeah right hahahehhehe
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[Hanging Home Alone]

You guys seem to know everything that goes on everywhere. What I'd like to know is where can a single Polish-Irish-American go to live that's safe? I mean really safe. Safe where you can walk alone at night safe - and let's say, you're not exactly a scary person. Let's say too you don't have alot of money - an actual, middle class, struggling county resident. I mean the apartments in Farmingdale were listed alot cheaper than in other places - I guess this is why. I won't be looking there. So where do you go?

[Truth]

Most places in Nassau are still good..except Hicksville, Elmont, Valley Stream, Roosevelt, Hempstead, Uniondale, Freeport, North Merrick, parts of Glen Cove and Roslyn and North Levittown.
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[Cstar729]

You got all these illegals pushing there way out of Suffolk county beating there wives and acting a fool at Belmont racetrack, we the people have to do something about that. There ruining what we've worked so hard for.Elmont and V.S are good diverse towns where the people work hard for what they have. I cant hate them. O and don't forget all the Skell's from sw Queens that are sending there kids to our Long Island schools. Anyway all Im saying is that we need to stand up and take control of whats left. We gotta drop dimes on these people and send them back to holes they crawled out of. Send them back to the city. We don't want them out here getting drunk and beating there kids,wives and eating at our restaurant's. There not like us, they dont pay taxes there kids dont fight wars like ours do and they should not have the same rights we have. They dont care for us!

[Thanks truth]

another issue for another board.

[And also]

I think added to list of no good any more towns should be listed south floral park, parts of inwood in 5 towns, north bellmore and north merrick and parts of east meadow, mineola and west hempstead.

[feel your pain]

central Adirondacks---bring plenty of warm clothing

[me loves Mejias]

IF THE COPS DON'T START DOING THERE JOB FARMINGDALE AND ALL OF NASSAU ARE DONE.

WERE IS DAVE MEHEASS IN ALL OF THIS YES ME HE ASS!!!

[Farmingville]

dont just blame the cops blame yourselves,politicians, society.
who rents to these people, hires these people service these people

[LifeLongFdaler]

I feel Farmingdale as a whole is in denial and rather turn away and pretend that the gang problem is not here. We have only very few that are willing to sound off about it and rest hide. I wish the residents of Farmingdale would take some time to do some research on the notorious MS13 gang and try to understand what kind of animals we are dealing with. Also, be careful who you hire, cut your lawn, carpentry and make your sandwiches for they could be a member or a former member of this gang like that deli worker that shot up the apartments couple weeks ago. do you want someone that is willing to shoot you dead in a second in your home, where you sleep at night?

[liberalhater]

Every time i hear one of these stories i laugh. When I hear people blame the police, I laugh harder. Want to know why? Because you people bring it upon yourselves. Read the Daily news on 12/14/04? There is an article that explains why this is true. A nypd cop and six others are suing scpd for racial profiling. I am a Nyc po and I am embarassed today for that. People want to say things like " if the cops don't start doing their jobs". Well this article states that the officer who stopped the cop asked why he was sitting in his parked, turned off, car in front of his house at night. That, folks, is "doing their job". How is the cop supposed to know it is his house or car? Any one with common sense can see that is a reason to stop and question him. I would have liked the officer to stop and ask me that, I would have thanked him for being diligent. ( I live in Brentwood by the way, not a tony town). So that is your answer. YOU are whats wrong with your neighborhood. When a cop who is being Pro active (look it up), tries to investigate a suspicious incident, They get sued. I would not help you idiots either. To hell with you. You can't have it both ways, i hope that cop never does another thing for any of us, EVER. I wouldn't. You people can call Al Sharpton, or your lawyer next time your car is being broken into. And this cop from the 19 in Manhattan should be ashamed of himself. If he was a real cop for his 11 years on the job, he would be grateful. To hell with him too, he should be kicked out of the PBA, he is a retard.

[Pick 6]

I just read that article about the NYPD cop suing the SCPD and it makes me sick. This cop has to be the biggest joke there is and you are right, he should absolutely be ashamed of himself. I think any cop would be thankful that another officer was patrolling his neighborhood and checking on anything that looked suspicious. And yes sitting in your car at night with the engine off is reason enough to ask what you are doing. I can only hope that this lawsuit is thrown out but you never know in this garbage liberal state. I hope the cops he work with realize what kind of guy they have working with them. Pieces of garbage like this are what unfortunately give the rest of the hardworking city cops a bad reputation.

[george2345]

This idiot city cop that's suing stated that the cops did not have probable cause to approach him when he was sitting in his car. Moron if your out there, you don't need probable cause you idiot. You don't know this because your probably sitting behind a desk in some precinct working Monday thru Friday 9-5. Or maybe the juvenile officer or community affairs!

[for liberalhater]

liberalhater

Every time I hear one of you cops talk I laugh. When I hear people blame the people, I laugh harder. Want to know why? Because you cops bring it upon yourselves. I am embarrassed by you do your job . I pay you for this!! Any one with common sense knows it is you job like me or not!

Hey Pig you said "I would not help you idiots either. To hell with you. You can't have it both ways, i hope that cop never does another thing for any of us, EVER. I wouldn't. You people can call Al Sharpton, or your lawyer next time your car is being broken into." This is why I am calling you a pig, all you want to do is eat up my taxes, you don't want to do your job then leave. there are many who would love your job.

You also said "If he was a real cop for his 11 years on the job, he would be grateful. To hell with him too, he should be kicked out of the PBA, he is a retard" You are the retard you just said that you were not going to do your job!!!!!!!



To Pick 6, and george2345 what do we do to stop what is happing here on Long Island? We need help not iberalhater BS, What can we do to help you, help us?

[do you job?]

it is not any cops job to control what illegals are in the neighborhood. it is a cops job to investigate crimes,makes arrests and answer 911 calls.
illegals are a problem of society, cops arent equipped to handle those problems. if they locked up every illegal like the rapist from islip, when he posted bail, skipped on a court appearance, changed his name, and is now roaming the streets, that isnt the cops its the court.
again, question, do cops rent to these people?, hire these people? sell used cars to these people? allow them to congregate in their parking lots, or sell them alcohol?
we do. we have to stop.
we like the 30$ a week lawn maintainence, but if we hired joe america, it would be 60$. likewise construction costs.
cops can be part of a solution, but they arent the answer, we are

[Stop the BS]

Who was talking about illegals this is Gangs. Gangs Gangs Gangs. not illegals.

[legals]

Not true!! Gangs are made up of Whites, illegals, legals and black . All kinds of people.

[Truth]

Its all the filthy savage mexican illegals who have destroyed Farmingdale.
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[Ganginfo]

Farmingdale's gang the MS-13 consists of mostly illegal El Salvadorans, also mixed in the gang are other people from central American countries like Honduras. The are well known for their ruthless, violent ways and smuggling drugs and people over the Mexican/US border. IMO what brought them here to Farmingdale are the day laborers or maybe the gang brought the laborers here since they are great coyotes smuggling people over the border. Either way they continue to profit here off of theses laborers by charging them money to get here,make them work as a day laborer and shake them down or they force them to join the gang. It's Central America's most murderous export

[enemy]

according to buncho'bull gangs are a melting pot of america, right bunch?
i heard 1 wanna be actually sued ms13 for discrimination because they wouldnt let him join

[Time for school]

STREET GANG AWARENESS



GANG--a structured group of 3 or more individuals bonded together on a regular basis for the purpose of committing antisocial or criminal acts.

Most gang members are bonded together by race, culture, sex, or location. Not all youths who are members of a group should be classified as gang members. Within the category of these groups are those who have formed an alliance, but are not criminally motivated. Officials should be aware of these other groups; Posses, turf groups and fraternities.



GANG IDENTIFIERS



The following is a list of warning signs depicting an emerging gang presence. It should be understood that more than one identifier should be observed in order to confirm the presence of gang activity.

GRAFFITI
In the beginning the graffiti covers a small area and grows larger as the street gang becomes bolder and gains confidence. Their graffiti marks their turf, thus informing other gangs of their presence. Rival gangs will often cross out opposing graffiti. Officials should take note that cross outs are territorial insults and often lead to retribution. Graffiti is usually signed by the author (moniker or tag) and may also contain the names of other members. Murals or memorials contain the names of deceased members.

COLORS
All gangs have designated colors. Their colors may be worn in any number of different ways, e.g. beads, bandannas, clothing (including sports attire), hats, shoe laces, key chains, back packs, national flags, etc.

HAND SIGNS
Most street gangs utilize some form of hand sign(s). It's their means of greeting, identifying and communicating with each other. While its helpful to be able to distinguish between the various hand signs thus allowing you to identify the specific gang, it is not imperative that you be able to read all the signs. Merely realizing the use of some type of hand sign will provide beneficial assistance to the official in his/her identification (gang affiliation) of the subject.

TATTOOS
Gang members will often tattoo their head, hands, arms, chest and back with gang markings. The tattoos play a significant role in identifying specific gangs, as most members will have multiple tattoos Generally, one of those tattoos will clearly identify their gang.

ADMISSIONS and ASSOCIATIONS
Gang members are proud members. As such, given the right circumstances they will not hesitate to identify with the gang and readily admit their association. However, due to the intense crack down on identified street gangs, members have become more reluctant in admitting their gang allegiance. Once an official has identified an individual as a gang member, he/she can then more easily identify others. Note that mere association with a known gang member does not confirm an individual's membership. Officials should look for additional identifying factors prior to making a decision regarding members. As an interviewer you can extract vital information from these members.

HANGOUTS
Gang members meet on a routine basis. They meet to conduct business about the gang (from the collection of dues to the administration of punishments). Many of their meetings take place in the public. (e.g. parks, school yards, etc.)

WANNA BE
There is no such thing as a "Wanna Be." Any individual, who wants to be a member of the gang, is in my opinion, a "gang member." The wanna be has a greater potential to commit criminal acts, particularly violent acts, than their established veteran counterpart. This wanna be member has something to prove, thus he/she can easily confirm their allegiance by committing frequent and more serious criminal acts. Simply stated, the wanna be is the j.v. member who hopes to make the "Varsity."



REASONS FOR JOINING GANG



Gangs are able to provide their members with a host of services. Many of these services are needs that are not met via legitimate, sanctioned organizations and activities. The list of those needs that gang members BELIEVE is being met strengthens the gangster mentality:

Sense of Family
Protection
Identity/recognition
Respect
Acceptance
Financial gain
Love & understanding
Family is first, foremost and an integral component in all relationships. Youth experience a sense of alienation and powerlessness because of a lack of traditional support structures, such as family and school. This void can lead to feelings of frustration and anger thus creating the desire to obtain support outside of traditional institutions.

The sense of belonging becomes a major source of identity for its members. Everyone has a desire to be a part of something or attached to someone. In turn, gang membership affords our youth a sense of power and control with gang activities becoming an outlet for their anger.

Control pf their turf is essential to the well being of the gang, as they (gang) will use force to control both territory and members.

Finally, the recruitment of new members and expansion of territory are essential if a gang is to maintain its strength and power. Both "willing" and "unwilling" members are drawn into gangs to fill the need for greater resources and more members.

Taken together these four factors interact to produce gangs that become more powerful and ruthless as they work to maintain and expand their sway over territory and youth.



INDICATORS OF POSSIBLE
STREET GANG INVOLVEMENT



The following signs may be used to identify potential gang affiliation. Be careful not to assume that displaying any of the following signs assures gang involvement. To confirm gang member identification consult with your local law enforcement agency.

Sudden poor school grades coupled with a disinterest in school.
Withdrawal from family activities.
Use of unknown vocabulary (gangs utilize their own terminology and codes).
A sudden change in friends.
Any evidence of drug abuse.
Utilization of hand signs.
The desire for excessive privacy.
Acquiring a new nickname
Displaying a poor attitude toward family, school and authorities.
The purchase or desire to buy clothing of all one color or style.
Changing physical appearance with special haircuts, shaved eyebrows and specific tattoos.
Drawing gang graffiti on personal belongings, such as backpacks, notebooks, posters, furniture, etc.
Staying out much later than usual with no legitimate reasoning.


WHAT PARENTS, FAMILY OR FRIENDS CAN DO



Avoid denial.
Become informed.
Become involved and stay involved
Get to know your children's friends.
Create and maintain good communication with your child.
Create quality time with your child; soliciting their input in social activities.
Teach good values while instilling responsibility.
Monitor media usage.
Encourage healthy activities.
Speak with your child in a positive way, avoiding negative or demeaning criticism.
Don't be embarrassed to tell your child how much you love them while emphasizing the significance of their being your child.
Don't be afraid to say no while remaining firm, yet fair.
Refuse to give in to peer pressure.
Above all, be a "True Role Model".


CONCLUSION



Street gang violence and violent crime issues are complex and affect every segment of our society. Membership encompasses all races, all socioeconomic levels and is not limited to larger cities. Street gang violence has the potential to hold any citizen or property at risk. This is a national problem that affects everyone at some level

Denial of an emerging presence or the existence of a gang within a community only serves to promote the devastating effect of this negative plague upon society. Gangs alone do not have the ability to control our youth. The gang's success is dependent upon the failure of our citizenry to act. Realization and admittance of a gang presence becomes the first and most important step in the creation of a viable solution.

There are numerous factors responsible for our young peoples attraction and enticement into the "gangsta lifestyle." Primary in those reasons is the need to belong. We all want to be connected. Connection to something or someone creates self worth and enhances self-esteem. All children are susceptible to street gang influence at increasingly younger ages. Active prevention is therefore required virtually from the start of a child's entry into the school system.

Success in preventing the growth of street gangs will only be achieves with assistance of the entire community (parents/families/guardians and friends, religious institutions, educators, law enforcement agencies, private enterprise and all phases of government).

[cute]

doesnt apply to real life
i cant just say im ms13 im way too pale

[my 7 y/o came home with t]

Police must do there job!!

[la policia]

tu nesicito immigraccionn, no policia,tu eres bruto

[The Blue Wall]

When faced with violent assault by gangs.

My life depends upon Police reaction without hesitation.

There is no time to ponder because to ponder is to possibly perish.

Police response, if attacked, must not be fear but aggressiveness.

Police must block out all thoughts of peril and think only of stopping the assailant on all of us.

[Bebe]

You posted...

"How is the cop supposed to know it is his house or car? Any one with common sense can see that is a reason to stop and question him."

Well, let's see. A car is parked on the street in front of a house. Some guy is sitting in this parked car and his engine is off. Off or on, running or not, any police officer with comon sense would have ran his plate in the first place. And what idiot on block that doesn't know his neighbors car called that in to the police in the first place. . Oh and by the way, if the car was parked and the engine was off, he was already stopped. Duh!

[Supposed to know]

Liberal Hater Is a NYPD cop the best of the best!!

[Truth]

Its hard for police to do there jobs when Farmingdale is loaded with liberals.

Anyone with common sense would deport any filty savage who commits a crime when they are fould to be illegal.:">
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[Taxpayer]

just because a plate or car''comes back'' to the address, doesnt mean the person in the car belongs in it, bums break into cars and sleep in them, people believe it or not break into cars and steal them, really drunk people fall asleep in them, and every so often a person has a medical emergency in a m/v, in example allergic reaction, heart or asthma attack, a car stops and checks on a person in a car is doing his job. thats what we need, sadly all this civil rights prevents or discourages good cops from doing the job
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[county resident]

we want cops to do there job, most of us havent a clue what or how the job works, yet when they do their job and it effects us, we get upset, if you live in a hi-crime area, and the cops stop you or check on you as you sit on a residential block late at nite, you should be glad, unless you are a criminal. as far as justification, they have the vehicle laws, there are over 100 mandatory pieces of equipment each car must have, and at least as many illegal pieces, these give the cops their just cause to pull you over.
if you arent doing anything wrong you have nothing to fear.
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[Hey truth]

Farmingdale is a GOP Town.

And the People of Farmingdale have ask the Police to do there Job. And so has the Village of Farmingdale.:">

Farmingdale is in better shape then you think, It has been about six years that we have been keeping the numbers down, soon they my all be gone. If we had more help from the Police, they are helping but can do more!!

[Bebe]

Use some common sense people, before approaching a parked vehicle, a police officer should know enough to run the plate. It not only gives him or her the history of the plate but also it gives them the vehicle's status.

On top of which, when his fellow officers know where he is, they know where to go in case of any complications besides what else the responding officer is able to radio in.

And if your neighbors don't know you and or your vehicle/vehicles, that does't say much about you or them.

[liberalhater]

The act of running the plate does absolutly nothing and will tell you nothing if it is currently being stolen. You have to REPORT it stolen first to have it show up stolen. Again, don't tell us how to do our job. And a lot of you need to learn how to speak english first. I still hope that cop laughs next time your car gets stolen. Laughs right in your ignorant faces.

[DUMP SUOZZI NOW]

You are making a lot of us COPHATERS!

[ny426]

First let me apologize for this moron. Not to bash the 19th pct but this guy probably doesnt even know what a stop and frisk is and never had to do one in his entire career. Be safe and happy holiday's.

[Farmingdale2]

Thanks, NY426!!

[liberalhater1]

Thanks ny426. Wow Dump Suozzi a cop hater. What a shame. But most liberals are. If you can't take the truth, that the cops are not always to blame for your problems, too bad. Go cry in your beer. When you get locked up for DWI it will be the cops fault for you drinking right? Dick. I would love to run into this guy from the 19 and explain police work to him. He was asleep for the last 15 years of his life. He is a sad excuse. Just wearing the uniform does not make you a cop. It makes you a person wearing a police costume.

[Dump Suozzi NOW!]

liberalhater1 :oops: >>>Go cry in your beer!!. <<< :oops:

It is Police who talk the way you do that make me sick!!!!!!!!!