DORMER-"I dont need more cops"

[Unregisteredoucher]

Dickie are you kidding me? Crime is on the upswing and you tell us, dont believe the numbers? Jack Eddington almost pleads with you to hire more cops and you say Nah Im good. Are you that cluless and outta touch. Have you no pride? What Police Comissioner has ever said NO to hiring besides you. You should be fired. Youre an embarassment.

[44444]

He's a puppet. A "button". He does what he's told to do. He has no real thoughts or ideas. Just does what his boss, Stevie Weevie tells him to do. One thing is for sure however, they're not fooling anyone. The public isn't buying into their BS.

[5254sg456]

Hes a disgrace of a human being and a joke of a commissioner. His family must be proud of him. Only Levy could have brought us a screw up like this one.

Could you imagine an Inspectors funeral for this clown? Who would attend? Guys would bang in sick rather than stand at attention for this disgrace! He has alienated himself from every law enforcement individual.

[trueleader]

Dickie are you kidding me? Crime is on the upswing and you tell us, dont believe the numbers? Jack Eddington almost pleads with you to hire more cops and you say Nah Im good. Are you that cluless and outta touch. Have you no pride? What Police Comissioner has ever said NO to hiring besides you. You should be fired. Youre an embarassment.

Of course Jack Eddington is a PBA hack. If the leader says he does not need more guys then why would a politician try and push to spend more tax payer money. O yea he has been bought and paid for by the Suffolk PBA.

[4544]

Blah, blah, blah..... more of the same being vomited from the Dennison building.

[Unregisteredaertertr]

Of course Jack Eddington is a PBA hack. If the leader says he does not need more guys then why would a politician try and push to spend more tax payer money. O yea he has been bought and paid for by the Suffolk PBA.

You have no idea how badly you are being screwed by Levy and Dormer. Since you have no problem forking over money for services you don't receive, I'll send you my address and you can send some my way so I can have a very Merry Christmas indeed.

[Unregistered 2629]

Hes a disgrace of a human being and a joke of a commissioner. His family must be proud of him. Only Levy could have brought us a screw up like this one.

Could you imagine an Inspectors funeral for this clown? Who would attend? Guys would bang in sick rather than stand at attention for this disgrace! He has alienated himself from every law enforcement individual.

Just curious... what is an "Inspectors funeral"? Thanks.

[UnQWO]

Hes a disgrace of a human being and a joke of a commissioner. His family must be proud of him. Only Levy could have brought us a screw up like this one.

Could you imagine an Inspectors funeral for this clown? Who would attend? Guys would bang in sick rather than stand at attention for this disgrace! He has alienated himself from every law enforcement individual.

Better yet, he shouldn't have a "Walk Out" Either. If so No Piper or anyone should attend.

[dkjahjdrl]

who think that the public is NOT buying into this: the public is 100% buying into the smack being put down on the PBA. They don't care that they're getting screwed. They're firmly in the pocket of Stevie. Cops are hated by ALL of Suffolk's residents so there is NO way the public will start banging down doors demanding more cops on the streets. The PBA MUST find a new way of reaching out because right now (and for the foreseeable future, give or take 900 years) the PBA is losing the fight. Bottom line, don't assume the public is anywhere NEAR behind you, because they are NOT. Not now, not ever before.

[Unregistered987]

who think that the public is NOT buying into this: the public is 100% buying into the smack being put down on the PBA. They don't care that they're getting screwed. They're firmly in the pocket of Stevie. Cops are hated by ALL of Suffolk's residents so there is NO way the public will start banging down doors demanding more cops on the streets. The PBA MUST find a new way of reaching out because right now (and for the foreseeable future, give or take 900 years) the PBA is losing the fight. Bottom line, don't assume the public is anywhere NEAR behind you, because they are NOT. Not now, not ever before.

who made you spokesman for the united assosiation of azzholes?

[hkjadshf]

who made you spokesman for the united assosiation of azzholes?

and I think you know this. I don't like it anymore than you do.

[Unregistered4456]

It's said, but true. More people don't like the police than do.

[Unregistered33]

It's said, but true. More people don't like the police than do.

no, it's not true. most people do like the police. criminals and malcontents dislike the police. and stop answering your own posts troll.

[Unregistered Done]

Of course Jack Eddington is a PBA hack. If the leader says he does not need more guys then why would a politician try and push to spend more tax payer money. O yea he has been bought and paid for by the Suffolk PBA.

Ask any Police Dept in the country and if they were offered to have more police by a elected board they would jump at it. Here is where Steve Levy made his biggest mistake read full article http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/suffolk-police-s-dormer-i-don-t-need-more-money-1.1539501
Some quotes

Safety Board;"I want to give you as much support as possible, but it seems like I'm fighting with you to help you," Legis. Jack Eddington (I-Medford) said. "Am I nuts?"

Dormer :You see spikes in crime all the time," he said. "I like to look at it over a year before you really get a good reading about what has happened
Heroin?

Sheriffs:Sharkey said the sheriff's department expects to spend between $700,000 and $800,000 to pay overtime to deputy sheriffs assigned to patrol the Long Island Expressway and Sunrise Highway.
I thought they were not paying overtime for this?

Crimes in Suffolk are on the rise we have 300 less police officers out there and this leader if you call him that will not take 2 police classes of 100 officers is nuts.This shows how Steve Levy hates the police department and now that the Feds are looking at everything, it will come to bite both in the ass, just hang in there both will be gone after the federal review

[unregposter]

im from the 92' test......... most of us make the bulk of the dept, so let them continue the game of not hiring no problem as far as i am concerned!!! i'll take half and walk its there call makes no difference to me.... I've had it.

[not my problemo]

who think that the public is NOT buying into this: the public is 100% buying into the smack being put down on the PBA. They don't care that they're getting screwed. They're firmly in the pocket of Stevie. Cops are hated by ALL of Suffolk's residents so there is NO way the public will start banging down doors demanding more cops on the streets. The PBA MUST find a new way of reaching out because right now (and for the foreseeable future, give or take 900 years) the PBA is losing the fight. Bottom line, don't assume the public is anywhere NEAR behind you, because they are NOT. Not now, not ever before.

And you know this how? You've asked every member of the public?
I know about 70 people who have called and complained after waiting hours for the police to arrive
In fact the dept just instituted a new policy where if a call holds for one hour and a half, the duty officer is notified and he notifies the officer in charge at the pct.
The bottom line, I'm not the one losing out on my taxes, and getting 3/4 of the police dept I'm paying for. I'm not the one who is going to be losing hours of my life waiting for the police to show. I show up, do my job and go home, as does the rest of scpd.

[very childish post]

It's said, but true. More people don't like the police than do.

This isnt a popularity contest. No one is concerned with being liked. Have a nieghborhood meeting and ask if you want more or less cops and patrol in your area.

[KJADFDK]

I didn't say it was a popularity contest. 1) Face it, the VAST MAJORITY of John Q. Public dislikes the police, the PBA, et. al. out of jealousy/resentment/etc. based mainly on the money you all make. As a result of that, Levy does NOT have to work hard AT ALL to convince them that his cuts are working just fine, even though we all know they're not. 2) Based on the fact that Levy is EASILY getting his way, despite the 70 people mentioned above that have called in, the PBA should start changing tactics to win public support for their cause since it is THEY who can pressure Levy, not the PBA itself. Saturate the airwaves with statistics and facts. The ads I have seen are pathetic. The PBA is not doing a good job getting the proper message out and THAT is a fact.

[56565]

I didn't say it was a popularity contest. 1) Face it, the VAST MAJORITY of John Q. Public dislikes the police, the PBA, et. al. out of jealousy/resentment/etc. based mainly on the money you all make. As a result of that, Levy does NOT have to work hard AT ALL to convince them that his cuts are working just fine, even though we all know they're not. 2) Based on the fact that Levy is EASILY getting his way, despite the 70 people mentioned above that have called in, the PBA should start changing tactics to win public support for their cause since it is THEY who can pressure Levy, not the PBA itself. Saturate the airwaves with statistics and facts. The ads I have seen are pathetic. The PBA is not doing a good job getting the proper message out and THAT is a fact.

People in this country resent authority and government in general. Everywhere. Levy has taken that foundation & focused it to demonize the police department when he played out the illegal alien card. Standard Levy politics.

What you're suggesting is that the police unions politicize their membership to the point that it resembles the Sheriff's. Despite the few managers that threw their hats (and money) into the political arena to support Levy, the rank & file cop would just as soon apply ALL their energies into getting the job done, as objectively and professionally as possible. The PD (and the SO as well) should serve the people, and not act as the armed wing of the party in power.

[you dummy]

I didn't say it was a popularity contest. 1) Face it, the VAST MAJORITY of John Q. Public dislikes the police, the PBA, et. al. out of jealousy/resentment/etc. based mainly on the money you all make. As a result of that, Levy does NOT have to work hard AT ALL to convince them that his cuts are working just fine, even though we all know they're not. 2) Based on the fact that Levy is EASILY getting his way, despite the 70 people mentioned above that have called in, the PBA should start changing tactics to win public support for their cause since it is THEY who can pressure Levy, not the PBA itself. Saturate the airwaves with statistics and facts. The ads I have seen are pathetic. The PBA is not doing a good job getting the proper message out and THAT is a fact.

Who made you spokesman for the "VAST MAJORITY"?
Unless you are speaking for the vast majority of perps and skells. They hate us because we enforce the law, not how much we make.

[kjdfldke]

Who made you spokesman for the "VAST MAJORITY"?
Unless you are speaking for the vast majority of perps and skells. They hate us because we enforce the law, not how much we make.

be SERIOUS!! Outside of your friends and family and the performance of your duties, you cannot have possibly ever spoken to anyone in the public. If you'd stop being so touchy about the truth and taking this as a personal affront perhaps you can give me ONE GOOD REASON why the PBA should NOT do a better job at presenting the facts to the public!? Suffolk police make a great salary. A high cost of living place like LI will therefore be envious/jealous, etc of anyone earning such a good salary. That's it! That's the fact! The PBA says they are concerned for public safety, etc. but they are NOT effectively getting the message out to the public about what Levy's jacked up policies are doing to degrade public safety. They need to work HARDER (is my point!) to do this since the public already sides AGAINST the PBA based on your salary, etc!!! This is not rocket science!!!!!

I want the PBA to do a better job to clue the public in at large to do a better job at FORCING Levy to do the right thing and make my FRIGGING county safer!!!!!

[Unregistered911911911]

if there are enough cops...stevy and commish...why do 911 operators have to tie up 911 lines to call all the complainants back to advise them of a delay in PD response??!?!?!?!?!??!? it blocks incoming 911 calls....god forbid youre having a heart attack and you can't get thru because an operator is doing his best customer service impression and calling back the prior c/m complainant and telling him there will be a delay in response time.....if there were enough cops.....this would not be necessary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[you dummy]

be SERIOUS!! Outside of your friends and family and the performance of your duties, you cannot have possibly ever spoken to anyone in the public. If you'd stop being so touchy about the truth and taking this as a personal affront perhaps you can give me ONE GOOD REASON why the PBA should NOT do a better job at presenting the facts to the public!? Suffolk police make a great salary. A high cost of living place like LI will therefore be envious/jealous, etc of anyone earning such a good salary. That's it! That's the fact! The PBA says they are concerned for public safety, etc. but they are NOT effectively getting the message out to the public about what Levy's jacked up policies are doing to degrade public safety. They need to work HARDER (is my point!) to do this since the public already sides AGAINST the PBA based on your salary, etc!!! This is not rocket science!!!!!

I want the PBA to do a better job to clue the public in at large to do a better job at FORCING Levy to do the right thing and make my FRIGGING county safer!!!!!

I didn't claim to speak for the vast majority, you did. You continue to point out "the truth", but I'm not so sure you or anybody else, myself included, is qualified to determine what "the truth" is. I state my views as my own opinion, you tend to state your personal opinions as a Fact supported by a majority.
I agree that the PBA's public relations efforts have been dismal at best, however I THINK that by and large the general public appreciates the police. I THINK the public is growing tired of always hearing Levy cry wolf, and blaming everyone else for his own managerial shortcomings. As a police officer I get to interact with all kinds of people from all different social/economic backgrounds. Thats how I developed my opinion. You sound like you did your "research" at Joe Schmo's Pub.

[656565]

if there are enough cops...stevy and commish...why do 911 operators have to tie up 911 lines to call all the complainants back to advise them of a delay in PD response??!?!?!?!?!??!? it blocks incoming 911 calls....god forbid youre having a heart attack and you can't get thru because an operator is doing his best customer service impression and calling back the prior c/m complainant and telling him there will be a delay in response time.....if there were enough cops.....this would not be necessary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

....another initiative of county executive steve levy!

[Unreg slackers]

if there are enough cops...stevy and commish...why do 911 operators have to tie up 911 lines to call all the complainants back to advise them of a delay in PD response??!?!?!?!?!??!? it blocks incoming 911 calls....god forbid youre having a heart attack and you can't get thru because an operator is doing his best customer service impression and calling back the prior c/m complainant and telling him there will be a delay in response time.....if there were enough cops.....this would not be necessary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Most of the call backs wouldn't be necessary if certain cops didn't milk the calls they were on and if the bosses supervised the rank and file and didnt allow certain cops to take 20, 30 , 40 minutes to RESPOND to the call for service.
It's a slippery slope- adjoining sectors who are good dilligent workers get tired of handling their assignments and there collegues, so they slow down- causing delays and making us all look bad.

[65656]

Most of the call backs wouldn't be necessary if certain cops didn't milk the calls they were on and if the bosses supervised the rank and file and didnt allow certain cops to take 20, 30 , 40 minutes to RESPOND to the call for service.
It's a slippery slope- adjoining sectors who are good dilligent workers get tired of handling their assignments and there collegues, so they slow down- causing delays and making us all look bad.

You want supervision, “officer?” Let’s start with didn’t (didn’t), dillgent (diligent), collegues (colleagues), for the obvious misspellings. Please correct those before resubmitting. Replace the worn out, and misused “slippery slope” cliché. Its use doesn’t support your argument. And finally, stick to what you know, because you obviously haven’t a clue about the actual workload of our street cops.

I hope you write your field reports better than this diatribe.

[Ron Burgundy]

When in rome...

[thank the lord!]

I was worried that the grammar and punctuation gods would be absent from this thread. Thank you for arriving just in time.

[656565]

I was worried that the grammar and punctuation gods would be absent from this thread. Thank you for arriving just in time.

Another candidate for the "Missed the Point Award."

[Unregistered34343fs]

364 days a year the majority of people don't need the help of a police officer. The problem is 365 days a year the majority is just looking to avoid getting some sort of traffic ticket while speeding or doing something else wrong. This is why it is so hard to get the majority of the public to back the police.
I am no troll. Actually a SCPD hopeful, scored a 97.5 on the last test. So personally, I would back the police.

[56565]

364 days a year the majority of people don't need the help of a police officer. The problem is 365 days a year the majority is just looking to avoid getting some sort of traffic ticket while speeding or doing something else wrong. This is why it is so hard to get the majority of the public to back the police.
I am no troll. Actually a SCPD hopeful, scored a 97.5 on the last test. So personally, I would back the police.

You're close, but the average citizen DOES appreciate their police. Just ask any officer shooting RADAR; plenty of folk stop & thank them. What we have here in this county is an executive who has gone out of his way to demonize the members of a police agency in order to galvanize the public to his agenda. Creating a common enemy is an ancient tactic for leaders who have nothing constructive to offer, ala Kim il Jong and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. While I'm suggesting that Steve shares their political or ethical views, he is certainly using their tactics to remain popular with the uninformed.

Good luck, we can use some new blood. Provided you can make the cut.

[Unregistered4544]

You're close, but the average citizen DOES appreciate their police. Just ask any officer shooting RADAR; plenty of folk stop & thank them. What we have here in this county is an executive who has gone out of his way to demonize the members of a police agency in order to galvanize the public to his agenda. Creating a common enemy is an ancient tactic for leaders who have nothing constructive to offer, ala Kim il Jong and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. While I'm suggesting that Steve shares their political or ethical views, he is certainly using their tactics to remain popular with the uninformed.

Good luck, we can use some new blood. Provided you can make the cut.

...should read "I'm NOT suggesting he shares their views."

[11111111]

You're close, but the average citizen DOES appreciate their police. Just ask any officer shooting RADAR; plenty of folk stop & thank them. What we have here in this county is an executive who has gone out of his way to demonize the members of a police agency in order to galvanize the public to his agenda. Creating a common enemy is an ancient tactic for leaders who have nothing constructive to offer, ala Kim il Jong and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. While I'm suggesting that Steve shares their political or ethical views, he is certainly using their tactics to remain popular with the uninformed.

Good luck, we can use some new blood. Provided you can make the cut.

I agree. Two months ago my car was broken into at my job. my window was busted out and the only thing that the scumbags stole was loose change...probabaly three dollars or so. Nevermind the brand new sunglasses sitting in the console, so it is same to assume that it was probably some junkie looking for quick cash! And before somebody mentions the fact that SCPD was probably around the corner sleeping...they weren't! They were taking care of a fatal motor vehicle accident which involved shutting down a major road. All in all, the window cost me around two hundred bucks. So I wouldnt mind paying an extra 15 dollars in my taxes so that doesnt happen again. Oh yeah...I am also an SCPD hopeful...with a 95 on the test. I hope i can make the cut so that I can make a diffrerence in suffolk.
For now I get two run and train everyday on the track at my local High School and look at Varsity football players practice on a field that is nicer than the Meadowlands!!!!

[sammyjones]

You're close, but the average citizen DOES appreciate their police. Just ask any officer shooting RADAR; plenty of folk stop & thank them. What we have here in this county is an executive who has gone out of his way to demonize the members of a police agency in order to galvanize the public to his agenda. Creating a common enemy is an ancient tactic for leaders who have nothing constructive to offer, ala Kim il Jong and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. While I'm suggesting that Steve shares their political or ethical views, he is certainly using their tactics to remain popular with the uninformed.

Good luck, we can use some new blood. Provided you can make the cut.

lol it's great that guys "shoot radar" but where are they????? all the suffolk cops i see blatantly ignore people breaking traffic laws right before their eyes. i see suffolk cops pass them on the road speeding by without even blinking an eye. to say you have a bad image in the publics eye in terms of being helpful would be an understatement, my delusional friend

[adsffdsafdsa]

Most of the call backs wouldn't be necessary if certain cops didn't milk the calls they were on and if the bosses supervised the rank and file and didnt allow certain cops to take 20, 30 , 40 minutes to RESPOND to the call for service.
It's a slippery slope- adjoining sectors who are good dilligent workers get tired of handling their assignments and there collegues, so they slow down- causing delays and making us all look bad.

i have been in the deli, seen a cop get a job on his walkie talkie, and stand there, bs'ing with the counter clerk, when he should be heading to the scene. then, after playing pocket pool while he chats, he might head to the call, or does he eat his sandwich first, so he can fuck off in the firehouse on his lunch break, already having eaten?

the first thing suffolk coppers do when they come on shift is go to the firehouse for a nice sit down coffee and breakfast. then they take their hour lunch break, extending it for an extra 20 minutes, to go to 7-11 for a cup of coffee. Why don't you eat before you come to work in the morning, stay out of the firehouse, and actually do the job you are paid for

[56565]

lol it's great that guys "shoot radar" but where are they????? all the suffolk cops i see blatantly ignore people breaking traffic laws right before their eyes. i see suffolk cops pass them on the road speeding by without even blinking an eye. to say you have a bad image in the publics eye in terms of being helpful would be an understatement, my delusional friend

The thousands of tickets that are issued by our officers contradict your anecdotal observations.

An officer responding to a high priority call is very likely to pass up an observed traffic infraction. That's just common sense.

Bad image? Despite a politically motivated effort to demonize our cops, the average citizen does not share your misinformed opinion.

[56565]

i have been in the deli, seen a cop get a job on his walkie talkie, and stand there, bs'ing with the counter clerk, when he should be heading to the scene. then, after playing pocket pool while he chats, he might head to the call, or does he eat his sandwich first, so he can fuck off in the firehouse on his lunch break, already having eaten?

the first thing suffolk coppers do when they come on shift is go to the firehouse for a nice sit down coffee and breakfast. then they take their hour lunch break, extending it for an extra 20 minutes, to go to 7-11 for a cup of coffee. Why don't you eat before you come to work in the morning, stay out of the firehouse, and actually do the job you are paid for

"coppers?" Please, only a failing 13th grader would use that term. If you really have concerns about the productivity of certain officers, share them with their supervisors or Internal Affairs. The fact that you're posting them here only removes your credibility. You look like a kid who recently got arrested and wants to lash out at the people who caught him.

[smells like a pileo shit]

I just wonder what "all(snicker snicker)" these cop watchers do that they can say thye see a majority of the cops at the firehouses, eating inside the firehouse. Taking their breaks, extending their breaks 20 minutes, going to 7-11, getting freebies, been in a deli where the cop gets a priority call, and he doesnt leave, watches cars pass the cop committing all kinds of traffic violations...
Is it me or does this seem too much?
I understand and admire your dedication to this besmirching of scpd, but i just cannot find you credible, that you are in all these places watching the vast majority of cops in scpd.
Unless you have absolutely no life, no job and are about 50 years old

[Achilles]

Unless you have absolutely no life, no job and are about 50 years old

In other words, a volunteer arsonist.

[speakforyourselfonly]

lol it's great that guys "shoot radar" but where are they????? all the suffolk cops i see blatantly ignore people breaking traffic laws right before their eyes. i see suffolk cops pass them on the road speeding by without even blinking an eye. to say you have a bad image in the publics eye in terms of being helpful would be an understatement, my delusional friend

Who died and left you the spokesperson for the public?
Maybe you are delusional, that your anon opinion on this wash womans board matters

[Unregisteredtgf]

lol it's great that guys "shoot radar" but where are they????? all the suffolk cops i see blatantly ignore people breaking traffic laws right before their eyes. i see suffolk cops pass them on the road speeding by without even blinking an eye. to say you have a bad image in the publics eye in terms of being helpful would be an understatement, my delusional friend

You get done with one call, there is another one or two waiting, sometimes waiting 3o minutes or more. There are not enough cops to keep the calls at bay, and thus they do not stop to write traffic tickets because they go from call to call to call....

[Unregisd]

i have been in the deli, seen a cop get a job on his walkie talkie, and stand there, bs'ing with the counter clerk, when he should be heading to the scene. then, after playing pocket pool while he chats, he might head to the call, or does he eat his sandwich first, so he can fuck off in the firehouse on his lunch break, already having eaten?

the first thing suffolk coppers do when they come on shift is go to the firehouse for a nice sit down coffee and breakfast. then they take their hour lunch break, extending it for an extra 20 minutes, to go to 7-11 for a cup of coffee. Why don't you eat before you come to work in the morning, stay out of the firehouse, and actually do the job you are paid for

Do you time their breaks with a stopwatch? If you do, you probably don't have a job and thus don't contribute to society, therefore your opinion shouldn't count.

[pindick]

i have been in the deli, seen a cop get a job on his walkie talkie, and stand there, bs'ing with the counter clerk, when he should be heading to the scene. then, after playing pocket pool while he chats, he might head to the call, or does he eat his sandwich first, so he can fuck off in the firehouse on his lunch break, already having eaten?

the first thing suffolk coppers do when they come on shift is go to the firehouse for a nice sit down coffee and breakfast. then they take their hour lunch break, extending it for an extra 20 minutes, to go to 7-11 for a cup of coffee. Why don't you eat before you come to work in the morning, stay out of the firehouse, and actually do the job you are paid for

ignorance is bliss

[free-o]

You forgot the part where they didn't pay for lunch or the coffee

[Unregisteredterd]

You forgot the part where they didn't pay for lunch or the coffee

or how you are a loser

[911911911911911]

Most of the call backs wouldn't be necessary if certain cops didn't milk the calls they were on and if the bosses supervised the rank and file and didnt allow certain cops to take 20, 30 , 40 minutes to RESPOND to the call for service.
It's a slippery slope- adjoining sectors who are good dilligent workers get tired of handling their assignments and there collegues, so they slow down- causing delays and making us all look bad.

thats true.....MANY times a complainant calls back to find out where the PO is.....they called 2 hrs ago.....check the status....and they've been IN ROUTE for 50 mins.........from where???????? montauk????? that is totally ridiculous.....and the dispatchers or supervisors don't have the brains to say...where the hell are you and why is it taking you almost an hr to get to this call...which is in your own sector!!!!!!

[heres yyyyy]

thats true.....MANY times a complainant calls back to find out where the PO is.....they called 2 hrs ago.....check the status....and they've been IN ROUTE for 50 mins.........from where???????? montauk????? that is totally ridiculous.....and the dispatchers or supervisors don't have the brains to say...where the hell are you and why is it taking you almost an hr to get to this call...which is in your own sector!!!!!!

Thats because the cop isnt in route. He is still writing his last call, or two.
But the dept now pressures the dispatcher to put the call out and the dispatcher was sending a car from across the pct. So the cop tells the dispatcher to put the call in his box. He'll get to it when hes done. So its assigned to him, and he now has 2-3 calls open in his box.
The dispatcher is satisfied because the call is off her board.
The sgt could care less.

[Unregistered342]

they are still on the previous call. they just put that call in their "box" so it appears as if it took them 50 minutes to get there but only because dispatch cant hold priority 1' or 2's no longer.

[Un. registered]

they are still on the previous call. they just put that call in their "box" so it appears as if it took them 50 minutes to get there but only because dispatch cant hold priority 1' or 2's no longer.

The dispatcher now cant hold any call longer then 90 minutes.
They now notify a boss, and its dispatched. No one actually cares if the cop goes immediately or it sits for another day. They have satisfied the powers that be. More smoke and mirrors.
What will be interesting is when the dept switches to the online reports from the mdc. My understanding is that you cannot stack calls.

[pindick]

lol it's great that guys "shoot radar" but where are they????? all the suffolk cops i see blatantly ignore people breaking traffic laws right before their eyes. i see suffolk cops pass them on the road speeding by without even blinking an eye. to say you have a bad image in the publics eye in terms of being helpful would be an understatement, my delusional friend

your are absolutely clueless!

[Unregisteredcitttizen]

if there are enough cops...stevy and commish...why do 911 operators have to tie up 911 lines to call all the complainants back to advise them of a delay in PD response??!?!?!?!?!??!? it blocks incoming 911 calls....god forbid youre having a heart attack and you can't get thru because an operator is doing his best customer service impression and calling back the prior c/m complainant and telling him there will be a delay in response time.....if there were enough cops.....this would not be necessary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you lazy cops would just do your jobs, there wouldn't be a backlog.

[Unregisteredfd]

Do you time their breaks with a stopwatch? If you do, you probably don't have a job and thus don't contribute to society, therefore your opinion shouldn't count.

I don't blame the sector operator, I blame the total lack of supervision. Where are your supervisors, heck your department is top heavy with brass. Where the hell are they?

[Unregisteredscratchme]

If you lazy cops would just do your jobs, there wouldn't be a backlog.

Do the math, less then 900 cops, Aprox 130 cops on patrol anytime
900k calls a year.
Consider the average domestic incident, non-criminal, say the typical parent unable to control their child is 50 minutes of our time.
A average fender bender, with the typical scammer going to the hospital because he thinks hes going to get rich is well over an hour.
The average 911 medical emergency, the typical scrub who doesnt have a car and uses the ambulance as a taxi service to the e.r. who he uses as a personal doctor is 30 minutes.

You people abuse the 911 system and call for everything under the sun. You believe having a officer "document" an incident (that he did not witness) makes it official( it doesnt). Where as the proper way to do it is to go to a notary.
The patrol function of scpd, and its manpower has not changed since 1970. Before crack, dwis, domestics, and cellphones. What has changed, about 800,000 people.

[+lick me]

You people abuse the 911 system and call for everything under the sun. You believe having a officer "document" an incident (that he did not witness) makes it official( it doesnt). Where as the proper way to do it is to go to a notary.
.

I always add to the field "undersigned officer did not witness incident, information provided by complaintant, other involved party not present or interviewed by U.S."
Thus rendering it useless.

[what I do]

I always add to the field "undersigned officer did not witness incident, information provided by complaintant, other involved party not present or interviewed by U.S."
Thus rendering it useless.

I prefer not to, just in case I get subpoenaed to testify, that 15.00 check and o/t is nice....then I let the lawyer aswk me if I know anything

[sheesh]

I always add to the field "undersigned officer did not witness incident, information provided by complaintant, other involved party not present or interviewed by U.S."
Thus rendering it useless.

But the MD will still give him/her another script for Oxicodone. You know, to replace the bottle that was stolen from his glove box.

[micropenis]

If you lazy cops would just do your jobs, there wouldn't be a backlog.

yeah , and you know everything

[45454]

If you lazy cops would just do your jobs, there wouldn't be a backlog.

You wouldn't last a minute in my shoes, fair citizen.

[oh the disgrace]

Dickie are you kidding me? Crime is on the upswing and you tell us, dont believe the numbers? Jack Eddington almost pleads with you to hire more cops and you say Nah Im good. Are you that cluless and outta touch. Have you no pride? What Police Comissioner has ever said NO to hiring besides you. You should be fired. Youre an embarassment.

too bad dickie, because they are coming

[Unregistered/whoaskedyou]

I always add to the field "undersigned officer did not witness incident, information provided by complaintant, other involved party not present or interviewed by U.S."
Thus rendering it useless.

Is it really your place to write that?
If I call you for a report, why do you think you can write whatever you want in it? I dont deal with the police all that often, but I'm going to be looking out now. Its my report. I'm the one who called.
If you write that on my report I'm going to refuse it.

[wawawawahhhh]

Is it really your place to write that?
If I call you for a report, why do you think you can write whatever you want in it? I dont deal with the police all that often, but I'm going to be looking out now. Its my report. I'm the one who called.
If you write that on my report I'm going to refuse it.

Yes it is my place. When you call the police you arent calling to get a "report", you are calling for us to interview and investigate a issue or a complaint, and document our findings.
Among other things that will be documented will be your issue, our actions or investigations, and what the conclusion of the investigation revealed.
for example you call claiming your landlord turned off your electricity. On arrival I observe the circuit breaker to have been tripped. I restore your power, no violation of the real property law.
In the case of an incident that occurred prior to my arrival, it will be written in 3rd party..."complainant states..."and it is wise to document the fact that the officer has no 1st hand knowledge of the issue.
If you want to refuse the report..be my guest.

[23232]

Is it really your place to write that?
If I call you for a report, why do you think you can write whatever you want in it? I dont deal with the police all that often, but I'm going to be looking out now. Its my report. I'm the one who called.
If you write that on my report I'm going to refuse it.

You sir, have an unreasonable sense of entitlement. It is not YOUR report, it's a public record written to document what you're reporting. If it wasn't personally observed by the officer, he is obligated to note that on the public record, in order to maintain its objectivity. If that's not acceptable to you, too bad.

It's not hard to understand why this is so; say someone calls the police & gives them YOUR license plate. He accuses you of hitting his car and then taking off. Do you REALLY want the officer to document that scenario as fact? Of course not. You'd expect him/her to note that it was info from 1 party and none of it was witnessed by police.

Not really a hard concept to grasp.

[Unregist79879879]

Yes it is my place. When you call the police you arent calling to get a "report", you are calling for us to interview and investigate a issue or a complaint, and document our findings.
Among other things that will be documented will be your issue, our actions or investigations, and what the conclusion of the investigation revealed.
for example you call claiming your landlord turned off your electricity. On arrival I observe the circuit breaker to have been tripped. I restore your power, no violation of the real property law.
In the case of an incident that occurred prior to my arrival, it will be written in 3rd party..."complainant states..."and it is wise to document the fact that the officer has no 1st hand knowledge of the issue.
If you want to refuse the report..be my guest.


people actually call 911 to complain about tenant-landlord civil law issues???

[Achilles]

people actually call 911 to complain about tenant-landlord civil law issues???

Here's a few for you from the good people of Suffolk:

"My neighbor's leaves are blowing on my lawn. I just cleaned mine up and my yard is a mess again. I want you to write him a ticket".

"Tell my son he has to get on the bus and go to school". (He was 6 years old)
Had this one more than once.

"My neighbor's kid threw a rock at my car". (He was 3 years old)

"My daughter is out of control". (She was 10 years old) Had this one more times than I can remember.

"My neighbor's cat/dog peed/crapped on my lawn" Had this one numerous times.

"The airplanes are flying directly over my house. They're doing it on purpose"

"My basement is flooded".

"My power is out".

"My neighbor parked his car in front of my house".

"There's a bat in my house".

"I saw a racoon in my yard".

"I've had the shits for 5 days and I want to got to the hospital".

I could go on all day and night with more just like these.

[Unregisteredteehee]

people actually call 911 to complain about tenant-landlord civil law issues???

Thats not even the tip of the iceberg

[ed alber says]

Is it really your place to write that?
If I call you for a report, why do you think you can write whatever you want in it? I dont deal with the police all that often, but I'm going to be looking out now. Its my report. I'm the one who called.
If you write that on my report I'm going to refuse it.


just because you called doesn't mean your right,, or telling the truth for that matter.......if your going to refuse the "report" , don't call us in the first place

[worthless reports]

people actually call 911 to complain about tenant-landlord civil law issues???

very common. The one I love is the absentee party/tenant whom the landlord will claim has given up his rights to everything, apt, etc, and wants me to put it in writing. Without interviewing the other party.
Then the landlord locks the apt and when the other party arrives waives his copy of a report that is written in 3rd party..."comp states"....when we are called back, he is shocked to learn it means absolutely nothing, that he is doing an unlawful eviction, and needs to go and evict the tenant the proper way.
same thing with a custody dispute...80% of the time they do not even have the custody papers with them.
"Undersigned did not read the custody terms due to the fact complainant did not bring them."

[Achilles]

I forgot about this classic. "I gave Tyrone 20 bucks for crack and he gave me a piece of sheet rock". This one happens a lot.

[regular marine corp]

I forgot about this classic. "I gave Tyrone 20 bucks for crack and he gave me a piece of sheet rock". This one happens a lot.

yeah,, and then they want you to get thier money back!

[u dont need cops]

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/cops-man-critical-after-shot-twice-in-c-islip-1.1606877

[Unregistered/whoaskedyou]

You guys amaze me. entitlement? Public record? Dont call 911?
Listen if I call you for a dispute I want the dispute documented. Its not your place to add things that contradict what I'm saying.
I am a taxpayer. I pay taxes. You work for me.
And you probably want me to refuse a report, so instead I'll demand a supervisor. He'll make you write my report.

[complaintant states]

You guys amaze me. entitlement? Public record? Dont call 911?
Listen if I call you for a dispute I want the dispute documented. Its not your place to add things that contradict what I'm saying.
I am a taxpayer. I pay taxes. You work for me.
And you probably want me to refuse a report, so instead I'll demand a supervisor. He'll make you write my report.

You call for me to investigate an incident. The 1st thing I do is determine criminal, civil, or civil/domestic. Then I attempt to gather all the facts and find a resolution. If you are telling the truth, there is no contradictions. If the other part denies it or tells a different story so be it. Do you think he cannot ask for a report at the same time you are?
Your complaint will be documented, but so will my actions, and who I interviewed etc. That is my job. You may or may not pay taxes, but so may the person you are lodging the complaint against. And no i dont work for you. I work for the county, and state who sets my guidelines as to what and how I do my job. These things are out of your control, stop fighting it.
Call my sgt, believe me when I tell you, he wants me to dot my "i"s and cross my "t"s more then anyone, since any improper action I take results in disciplinary action against him as well.
I'm sorry this rubs you the wrong way. But thats life. You'll get your all important report written in 3rd party told to me, which means nothing in court, and my actions as well.

[ed alber says]

You guys amaze me. entitlement? Public record? Dont call 911?
Listen if I call you for a dispute I want the dispute documented. Its not your place to add things that contradict what I'm saying.
I am a taxpayer. I pay taxes. You work for me.
And you probably want me to refuse a report, so instead I'll demand a supervisor. He'll make you write my report.

it's not up to you whether a supervisor responds or not, you will be intreviewed and the officer upon completion of the investigation will determine what and what not will go in the "report", and its good that you are a tax payer, and i guess in a sense we do work for you,but believe it or not, you do not tell us what to do or not to do.

[Achilles]

You guys amaze me. entitlement? Public record? Dont call 911?
Listen if I call you for a dispute I want the dispute documented. Its not your place to add things that contradict what I'm saying.
I am a taxpayer. I pay taxes. You work for me.
And you probably want me to refuse a report, so instead I'll demand a supervisor. He'll make you write my report.

This is just funny...
There really is no response to this kind of arrogance, ignorance and stupidity.

[Unregisteredteehee]

.
I am a taxpayer. I pay taxes. You work for me.


So is the guy you are having a dispute with.

[Unregistered/whoaskedyou]

And then you wonder why we hate you guys

[retailmentality]

And then you wonder why we hate you guys

And lets back that up shall we?
You speak for yourself. Its not "why we hate you" its "why I hate you"
And no, I dont wonder why. Dont really care. You probably would like me a little tiny bit if I wrote the report the way you wanted me to.
But you arent getting your way and now doing your best IM AT MACYS AND I WANT THE DISCOUNT FROM LAST WEEK Freak out.
You tried the "I pay your salary/you lost a sale" and "I want a supervisor"
And they both didnt work.
So now you hate us.
yawn

[edperegoy]

And then you wonder why we hate you guys

who's "we"?..... and like another poster said,,no we don't wonder why

[23232]

And then you wonder why we hate you guys

We don't wonder. You're still pissed cause you got locked up for DWI.

[Unregisteredseethru]

And then you wonder why we hate you guys

you hate us because you lost a stupid pretend scenario on the swchartz report...be honest now, you were not a big fan

[ed alber says]

you hate us because you lost a stupid pretend scenario on the swchartz report...be honest now, you were not a big fan

too funny........he lost an arguement on the swchartz report........imagine what a loser he is in the real world

[Unregistered/whoaskedyou]

you hate us because you lost a stupid pretend scenario on the swchartz report...be honest now, you were not a big fan

I have numerous family members who were cops, including my uncle who has 12 years on in scpd. I dont run around bashing cops.
Its your own arrogance that is your demise. you turn us against you.

[97-????]

I have numerous family members who were cops, including my uncle who has 12 years on in scpd. I dont run around bashing cops.
Its your own arrogance that is your demise. you turn us against you.

Ahhhh yes the infamous class of 1997 that doesnt exist.
To the best of my knowledge scpd went from 1995-2000 without a class.
Thank you for continuing to post and confirming you are a troll.

[here we gooooooo]

Ahhhh yes the infamous class of 1997 that doesnt exist.
To the best of my knowledge scpd went from 1995-2000 without a class.
Thank you for continuing to post and confirming you are a troll.

lol....hes gonna post how he mixed up the date...or it was frontloaded military time...or something as ridiculous

[caught in a lie??]

Wow this overopinionated troll beat feet.

[Unregistered33]

Is it really your place to write that?
If I call you for a report, why do you think you can write whatever you want in it? I dont deal with the police all that often, but I'm going to be looking out now. Its my report. I'm the one who called.
If you write that on my report I'm going to refuse it.


It's not your report dousch. It's mine. I sign my name to it. And If I don't believe you, or the facts don't add up, It won't go in to the report.

[Unregisteredwhaa]

You guys amaze me. entitlement? Public record? Dont call 911?
Listen if I call you for a dispute I want the dispute documented. Its not your place to add things that contradict what I'm saying.
I am a taxpayer. I pay taxes. You work for me.
And you probably want me to refuse a report, so instead I'll demand a supervisor. He'll make you write my report.

Why bother a public agency because you had a dispute?

Who gives a ship?

Feel free to call Consumer Affairs if it's business related.

[UnregisteredCall311]

Police handle crimes and emergency situations. Not disputes. Don't waste the police departments resources with personal problems.

[Unregisteredaffafafds]

Police handle crimes and emergency situations. Not disputes. Don't waste the police departments resources with personal problems.

no fellow. police officers handle disputes too. i suggest get your self in check. much of what police officers do has nothing to do with crime and emergencies. stop trying to impress people on here like you lie to your family and friends

[Upset with this stuff]

no fellow. police officers handle disputes too. i suggest get your self in check. much of what police officers do has nothing to do with crime and emergencies. stop trying to impress people on here like you lie to your family and friends

BS, call Dan, Jack and Kate, you have them in you pocket

[Unregisteredwronggg]

no fellow. police officers handle disputes too. i suggest get your self in check. much of what police officers do has nothing to do with crime and emergencies. stop trying to impress people on here like you lie to your family and friends

Police officers respond to disputes, they document disputes...remember thats where this whole lie came from, ...they do not "handle" them. after the police leave nothing has changed. because we cannot change it. If the people involved were capable of changing they wouldnt be calling us, they'd solve it between themselves, like 2 adults.
90% of the time the police are telling the people its a civil matter. But again the callers want it documented...a useless piece of paper that has both sides of the story and the fact that the cop cant do anything and neither party can act their age.

[Unregistered/whoaskedyou]

Police officers respond to disputes, they document disputes...remember thats where this whole lie came from, ...they do not "handle" them. after the police leave nothing has changed. because we cannot change it. If the people involved were capable of changing they wouldnt be calling us, they'd solve it between themselves, like 2 adults.
90% of the time the police are telling the people its a civil matter. But again the callers want it documented...a useless piece of paper that has both sides of the story and the fact that the cop cant do anything and neither party can act their age.

So you go to a call of a dispute and find one guy all lumped up. You dont arrest the other guy?
If you say no, you are lying, if you say yes, you just handled a dispute.

[not a dispute.]

So you go to a call of a dispute and find one guy all lumped up. You dont arrest the other guy?
If you say no, you are lying, if you say yes, you just handled a dispute.

Hey guess what dummy, thats not a dispute, thats a fight.
And I only arrest the actor IF the victim is cooperative, or its a domestic and there is a witness that saw the one guy lump the other one up.

[97-????]

So you go to a call of a dispute and find one guy all lumped up. You dont arrest the other guy?
If you say no, you are lying, if you say yes, you just handled a dispute.

ask your uncle with 12 years on, from the infamous class of 1997 that never existed, loser.

[Unregisteredweak]

So you go to a call of a dispute and find one guy all lumped up. You dont arrest the other guy?
If you say no, you are lying, if you say yes, you just handled a dispute.

You have 2 guys, one lumped up. You made no mention of who lumped him up. What if the other guy is a good samaritan that called 911?
What if the guy fell off his bike? What if he was hit by a car, or falling debris?

[Un-registered]

So you go to a call of a dispute and find one guy all lumped up. You dont arrest the other guy?
If you say no, you are lying, if you say yes, you just handled a dispute.

A dispute is a noncriminal or civil conflict between 2 or more people... although sometimes its one person with a very vivid imagination.

Suppose in your scenario, its a boxing exhibition, or 2 friends training for a wrestling or mma tournament?
If it is more then that, that is a assault, its not a dispute, but a crime

[you and the law]

isn't there some other web site where high school kids can go practice their arguments for the mock trials in their 10th grade you and the law class?

[all in the family...]

ask your uncle with 12 years on, from the infamous class of 1997 that never existed, loser.

His other uncle is the nypd guy with 17 years on that doesnt know the year of hire
His aunt is the admin clerk for traffic court in nassau where the judge badmouths the cops.
His brother is the suffolk cop who doesnt know what "tt" stands for.
His father is the lirr clerk who thought the cop who used a police pass was a cop using his badge to get a free ride.

[you and reality]

isn't there some other web site where high school kids can go practice their arguments for the mock trials in their 10th grade you and the law class?

I know there isnt another site where losers can go and pesters cops, and get caught lying about a scpd class that their uncle graduated from that doesnt exist

[too funnyy]

ask your uncle with 12 years on, from the infamous class of 1997 that never existed, loser.

thats a good one

[UnregisteredMary]

My uncle is a policeman.

I know everything.

That reminds me when an obnoxious motorist said his uncle was the VP of the PBA. It sure didn't help him none.

[Unregistered/whoasked you]

My uncle was the president of the 1997 scpd class,
He was also its Salutatorian, and Magna cum laude. He won the pushup contest and had the fastest 1.5 mile ever.
He was voted most likely to succeed and best hair


this was a special class, it wasnt publicized and went undercover immediately in the Vancouver area working the infamous illegal quail poaching epidemic.
The cops were issued detective shields instead of pos, and their numbers are like admin ccs starting at the maximum and dropped reverse numbers.
thats why you never heard of them.

[UnregisteredKathy]

My uncle got arrested for taking a FDNY truck for a drunken joyride. My uncle is really a nice guy, but drinks a lot.

He would've been a great fire fighter, but flunked the Dole test.

[meatwhistle]

My uncle was the president of the 1997 scpd class,
He was also its Salutatorian, and Magna cum laude. He won the pushup contest and had the fastest 1.5 mile ever.
He was voted most likely to succeed and best hair


this was a special class, it wasnt publicized and went undercover immediately in the Vancouver area working the infamous illegal quail poaching epidemic.
The cops were issued detective shields instead of pos, and their numbers are like admin ccs starting at the maximum and dropped reverse numbers.
thats why you never heard of them.

your almost right, my uncle was valedictorian

[97-222]

your almost right, my uncle was valedictorian

yours too from the same class?
every cop from the 97-222 class is a superstar

[pee this high]

My uncle got arrested for taking a FDNY truck for a drunken joyride. My uncle is really a nice guy, but drinks a lot.

He would've been a great fire fighter, but flunked the Dole test.

I have heard depending on your choice of narcotic that some dirty urine actually accelerates the fire.
thats the true dole test

[NYPD Guy]

I have heard depending on your choice of narcotic that some dirty urine actually accelerates the fire.
thats the true dole test

Guys I do not understand this, your PC came from your ranks. Kelly is looking to be Mayor and there is talk he is going away. Your guy was one of you at one time. In the city we get guys who come from the outside no PD backround. Your Chiefs have been on the job a long time, but none of them will stand up. So they leave with over $100,000 pension, some are working for nothing . Start to give them a hard time, make them leave. Also I was at a PS meeting last month, one of your Leg. said he was looking putting in a law that the PC had to be a appointed every 3 to 5 years, work on that.

Sometimes our own brothers give it to us, fighting with your CE will get you nothing. Just my idea, be safe

[UnregisteredCountyCop]

Hey city guy,

Happy Thanksgiving and stay safe.

[NYPD Guy]

Hey city guy,

Happy Thanksgiving and stay safe.

You too, I have 18 years waiting to get out and I will never forget what you guys did for us on 9/11