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ncpdhwy
03-09-2005, 06:40 AM
Actually I do make alot more arrests out here than in the city. BUT, the reason for that is 80% of the arrests are for harassment, cpm etc. We didn't arrest for violations in the city. How many misdemeanors/felonies do I actually have out here? not many with the exception of a criminal contempt here and there. In the city I arrested for crack. Out here, marijuana. City I arrested for assault, out here harassment. To sum it up yes I did collar less in the city but that's becausse you couldn't arrest for violations and I sh** canned BS misdemeanors otherwise I'd be out of service every night.

So 511.1 is a ''legit'' misdemeanor? give me a break
Reason the burbs dont arrest 511.1;
None of the NYPD would make it to work, we'd be locking their asses up.

03-09-2005, 06:51 AM
Actually I do make alot more arrests out here than in the city. BUT, the reason for that is 80% of the arrests are for harassment, cpm etc. We didn't arrest for violations in the city. How many misdemeanors/felonies do I actually have out here? not many with the exception of a criminal contempt here and there. In the city I arrested for crack. Out here, marijuana. City I arrested for assault, out here harassment. To sum it up yes I did collar less in the city but that's becausse you couldn't arrest for violations and I sh** canned BS misdemeanors otherwise I'd be out of service every night.

So 511.1 is a ''legit'' misdemeanor? give me a break
Really, how about 512, RE; insurance lapse. You must be licking your chops over that.Thats a solid misdemeanor arrest too.The city cops are just trying to make it through the tour without getting CCRBd, GO-15d, shot, indicted, or CDd. I have a buddy who was a seasonal out in Suffolk for a Village PD. He wrote summonses and collared up all of the time. He went to the big job working steady 4x12s. He confided he hadn't made a collar in over a year. I was shocked since I knew he used to make them. His reply was that if on the 4X12s he collared up after he dropped off his perp he would go home and have to be back at the DAs office in the morning to go live w/ the ADA. City cops are just laying low and trying to make it to retirement. They go to work hoping that this isn't the tour they get killed, crippled or have a fatal incident with a member of another race in which they end up dragged through the mud, indicted and tried in Federal Criminal, Federal Civil, NY Criminal or NY Civil court.
Funny 3 of my good friends are cops in the city, 2 drive bosses around, with a total of 12 years between them, one after a whopping 7 years ''works'' inventory or something in a impound lot.

Blue Blooded
03-09-2005, 08:28 AM
This NYPD vs. SCPD nonsense has got to stop. As someone who came from the NYPD to SCPD, I can honestly say that SCPD does make more arrests than the city. The NYPD makes more collars for violent crimes (robberies, assaults, etc.) and gun collars than the SCPD but Suffolk brings more bodies. There is no need for any cop on either job to be bashing the other ones. The city is going through a tough time right now. They are underpaid and overworked and have been forced to hire people that have no business wearing a uniform (maybe a prison uniform). I think all cops should be making what we make. I even think that we should be making more than we do, contrary to what some cop-hating liberals think. There are a lot of great cops in the city that haven't been as lucky and fortunate as the rest of us to be able to come out here to work. I'm sure there might be a hint of jealousy in a small minority of them but they are few and far between. Enough with the stupid bickering and remember that we are all on the same team despite the fact that we have different patches.
P.S. I'll give it about a half hour before some idiot writes some foolish reply trying to stir some nonsense up again.

Guest 26
03-09-2005, 08:34 AM
This NYPD vs. SCPD nonsense has got to stop. As someone who came from the NYPD to SCPD, I can honestly say that SCPD does make more arrests than the city. The NYPD makes more collars for violent crimes (robberies, assaults, etc.) and gun collars than the SCPD but Suffolk brings more bodies. There is no need for any cop on either job to be bashing the other ones. The city is going through a tough time right now. They are underpaid and overworked and have been forced to hire people that have no business wearing a uniform (maybe a prison uniform). I think all cops should be making what we make. I even think that we should be making more than we do, contrary to what some cop-hating liberals think. There are a lot of great cops in the city that haven't been as lucky and fortunate as the rest of us to be able to come out here to work. I'm sure there might be a hint of jealousy in a small minority of them but they are few and far between. Enough with the stupid bickering and remember that we are all on the same team despite the fact that we have different patches.
P.S. I'll give it about a half hour before some idiot writes some foolish reply trying to stir some nonsense up again.

Well said Brother... Amen.

SCPD PATROL 3
03-09-2005, 12:05 PM
Saw today's Newsday...Dormer stated that by shutting down those cars the County will save...$125,000.00 FOR THE YEAR!! Are you kidding me!! Look at this picture 2 more cars get shut down on the midnights for $125,000/YEAR. How much would eliminating 1(one) Chief (assistant or deputy) save? Much more than Dormer's elimination of the 2 additional cars!! I truly hope someone from the media catches on and asks Levy and/or Dormer how they can justify taking officers off the midnight tour at that cost savings when they could better help the public (keeping the late tour POs) AND SAVE more money/year removing some paper pushing ass. or dep. chief/s!!

Also, Levy wants to spend $22,000 of taxpayer money to counter the PBA's information campaign. I hope the legislature spanks Levy over that. Apparently money is a big issue to Levy and here he goes spending more money! Voters of Suffolk County please wake up and see that this guy (Levy) has to go in 2007.

me2again
03-09-2005, 03:21 PM
Levy for Governor! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Guest 26
03-09-2005, 04:19 PM
Levy for Governor! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Of Alaska.

03-09-2005, 04:24 PM
Saw today's Newsday...Dormer stated that by shutting down those cars the County will save...$125,000.00 FOR THE YEAR!! Are you kidding me!! Look at this picture 2 more cars get shut down on the midnights for $125,000/YEAR. How much would eliminating 1(one) Chief (assistant or deputy) save? Much more than Dormer's elimination of the 2 additional cars!! I truly hope someone from the media catches on and asks Levy and/or Dormer how they can justify taking officers off the midnight tour at that cost savings when they could better help the public (keeping the late tour POs) AND SAVE more money/year removing some paper pushing ass. or dep. chief/s!!

Also, Levy wants to spend $22,000 of taxpayer money to counter the PBA's information campaign. I hope the legislature spanks Levy over that. Apparently money is a big issue to Levy and here he goes spending more money! Voters of Suffolk County please wake up and see that this guy (Levy) has to go in 2007Levy for Governor!
Does anyone know that the cars on the 3x11 are permanent positions? And as far as I know the cars are assigned to the 230 command, that is cope, so they are in fact not even patrol? Other than the fact that the patrol command is saving the p.o.s salary how is the county saving money, when its paying it to the cope cops?
Then you got the tools like me2again who is blind to reality.
How is moving bodies around saving money, its like musical chairs, take from mids give to evening change the command. Not 1 cop was fired, quit or was promoted, a few cars were moved from 1 tour to another, from patrol to cope, that equals less patrol cops on the mids, and less patrol cops on the evenings. you are a fool.

laddie Boy
03-09-2005, 04:26 PM
Anonymous wrote:

By the way if thats from a skimming the till cheeseball from ''the big job'' hows the new recruits? My neighbor who I've known for years we caught killing cats, stealing bikes, etc, has 2 dwis and a shoplifting charge, was being investigated 3 years ago, when the investigator talked to me I told him he'd be an embarassment to the job, well guess who was in the last class? Any luck he'll run into the crew taking bribes and be gone before he hurts someone.
big job indeed.

No, he will fit right in with the rest of them.

You are a Lying sack of shit. 2 DWI's and a Larceny prior and we took him in ??? I say Bullshit to you . Drop his name in your reply and I will check and see if there are any priors. if there are as you say I will personally apologize to you and admit that the County is corrupt. Maybe you meant you have two prior DWI's , killed small animals , and wet your bed.


No,the poster is replying to the one whom called us east end cupcakes, he is referring to the big job, not suozzi, not levy's but bloomberg's[/quote]
My bad ! Being this is a Police Issues forum under Suffolk Issues I just assumed the anonymous commentor was referring to SCPD ...

03-09-2005, 04:39 PM
This NYPD vs. SCPD nonsense has got to stop. As someone who came from the NYPD to SCPD, I can honestly say that SCPD does make more arrests than the city. The NYPD makes more collars for violent crimes (robberies, assaults, etc.) and gun collars than the SCPD but Suffolk brings more bodies. There is no need for any cop on either job to be bashing the other ones. The city is going through a tough time right now. They are underpaid and overworked and have been forced to hire people that have no business wearing a uniform (maybe a prison uniform). I think all cops should be making what we make. I even think that we should be making more than we do, contrary to what some cop-hating liberals think. There are a lot of great cops in the city that haven't been as lucky and fortunate as the rest of us to be able to come out here to work. I'm sure there might be a hint of jealousy in a small minority of them but they are few and far between. Enough with the stupid bickering and remember that we are all on the same team despite the fact that we have different patches.
P.S. I'll give it about a half hour before some idiot writes some foolish reply trying to stir some nonsense up again.


Well said Brother... Amen
I think a good point was made on the other page, the poster claimed a cpm was a violation, any rookie would be able to look in a cpl and see its not. Its reasonable to believe the guy claiming to be a Nypd or whatever is just yet another cop groupie, looking to ''liven ''up the conversation or stir the pot. None of us should have to feel like we have to prove anything to anyone least of all another mos.
Yet again, its a job, a good job, but just a job, if you go home at night as just a cop, even a good one you have a empty life.

03-09-2005, 05:18 PM
Does anyone know that the cars on the 3x11 are permanent positions? And as far as I know the cars are assigned to the 230 command, that is cope, so they are in fact not even patrol? Other than the fact that the patrol command is saving the p.o.s salary how is the county saving money, when its paying it to the cope cops?
Then you got the tools like me2again who is blind to reality.
How is moving bodies around saving money, its like musical chairs, take from mids give to evening change the command. Not 1 cop was fired, quit or was promoted, a few cars were moved from 1 tour to another, from patrol to cope, that equals less patrol cops on the mids, and less patrol cops on the evenings. you are a fool
Sounds about right, give or take... so where is the public saving money, are the newest cope members going to pick up calls?
If you shut down 2 cars on the mids, but leave the personnel, and open new cars on the evenings but dont hire any new bodies....you will still have o.t. to contend with.
And the general public are buying this?

Let's be frank
03-09-2005, 09:52 PM
They are underpaid and overworked and have been forced to hire people that have no business wearing a uniform (maybe a prison uniform). I think all cops should be making what we make. I even think that we should be making more than we do, contrary to what some cop-hating liberals think.

1- When, in the history of police going back to the sherriffs in the west, did you EVER hear "We're overpaid and underworked.?"

For that matter, who do you know working ANY job for ANY amount is 100% content, happy, or satisfied?

2- I think all cops should be making what you make as well as every other working stiff in the county, state, and country.

I CAN see!!!
03-09-2005, 09:57 PM
Also, Levy wants to spend $22,000 of taxpayer money to counter the PBA's information campaign. I hope the legislature spanks Levy over that. Apparently money is a big issue to Levy and here he goes spending more money! Voters of Suffolk County please wake up and see that this guy (Levy) has to go in 2007.

SCPDPatrol3 are you saying no republican CE ever misspent county money?

Or are you saying, you want another republican in there who will give you cops 50% raises over the next 4 years because they're supposedly "Anti-crime?" (Read: In bed with the cops for political brownie points)

Here's a word of advice that every taxpayer on Long Island can take to the bank: ALWAYS vote for whoever the Cops and Teachers are AGAINST.

Those are the 2 key special interest groups who are NOT looking out for anyone's interests except their own.

civilian bumpkin
03-09-2005, 10:52 PM
excuse me but didn't suffolk county cutback police in Huntington to save aprox. $24,000 a year

and the media blitz by suffolk county will cost what you say?
aprox.$ 22,000 :?

03-10-2005, 02:23 AM
"I can see" wrote;

"Or are you saying, you want another republican in there who will give you cops 50% raises over the next 4 years because they're supposedly "Anti-crime?" (Read: In bed with the cops for political brownie points)

Here's a word of advice that every taxpayer on Long Island can take to the bank: ALWAYS vote for whoever the Cops and Teachers are AGAINST.

Those are the 2 key special interest groups who are NOT looking out for anyone's interests except their own."



More inane rhetoric from this idiot. 50% over 4 years? I've been here 16 years and I've never seen that. If you're going to use stats and figures try to at least attempt to make them accurate. As for cops and teachers you really show your ignorance. Cops vote Republican the teachers vote Democrat. I guess you're really screwed now.

03-10-2005, 04:46 AM
- When, in the history of police going back to the sherriffs in the west, did you EVER hear "We're overpaid and underworked.?"

For that matter, who do you know working ANY job for ANY amount is 100% content, happy, or satisfied?

2- I think all cops should be making what you make as well as every other working stiff in the county, state, and country

1 Blue Blooded is referring to nypd, did you ever hear of a sherriff in hte west making over 60 grand a year, working another job part time and whos spouse works too, and is barely able to keep a roof over his head?
Did a sherriff in the west deal with inflation, cost of living, commuter tax?

2 Money is nice, but I'd keep my job at my pay if I didnt have to deal with all the b/s in the city.

SCPD PATROL 3
03-10-2005, 08:37 AM
I never said that the Republicans never misspent money. Where did you "see" that in my post? Levy can hold press conferences to counteract the PBA's position, write editorials, go on cable access programs. Obviously he feels a need to spend money (taxpayer money) to throw out his weak position. Why won't he stick around to answer questions from the public and media? His answer is "you'll have to speak to the Commissioner" Sadly, the commissioner is not around to answer the questions at that time.

Second, you are sooo off base regarding raises that I'm not going to go into the entire process of contracts and their negotiation.

03-10-2005, 04:11 PM
never said that the Republicans never misspent money. Where did you "see" that in my post? Levy can hold press conferences to counteract the PBA's position, write editorials, go on cable access programs. Obviously he feels a need to spend money (taxpayer money) to throw out his weak position. Why won't he stick around to answer questions from the public and media? His answer is "you'll have to speak to the Commissioner" Sadly, the commissioner is not around to answer the questions at that time
If levy's ''plan'' was so good why would he spend one single dime convincing the public? Shouldnt they be convinced on their own?
Could it be that the Pba mentions some facts that apparently make levy look like a horses ass? If whats being said is true, moving 2 cars but not the personnel, where are the savings, and if the cars are going to be manned by non-patrol personnel, like c.o.p.e. how is that helping to answer calls?

03-11-2005, 05:01 AM
Here's a word of advice that every taxpayer on Long Island can take to the bank: ALWAYS vote for whoever the Cops and Teachers are AGAINST
Little problem with that, Scpd backed Romaine, Scso(sherriffs) backed levy, both of them are cops.

03-11-2005, 01:29 PM
Levy and Dormer doing a great job with this pilot project. As it has become obvious there are too many patrols.

MADE
03-11-2005, 04:11 PM
Levy and Dormer doing a great job with this pilot project. As it has become obvious there are too many patrols.
Right, couldnt agree more. I just got promoted to some paperclip counting b.s. job, its boring and repetitve but I'm still clearing 110, and theres a decent amount of o/t in this dept. by this time next year, I'll probably have a county car, and cellphone, then I just gotta ride out 8 years until I retire. thanks you guys are the best.
Hey pretty soon with all the promotions, you wont have any patrol, just bosses and specialized units, I cant wait, no more 911 calls, whos gonna answer them? I dont know, or care, let that be the jaskas... er i mean taxpayers problem.

MADE too
03-11-2005, 06:57 PM
Levy and Dormer doing a great job with this pilot project. As it has become obvious there are too many patrols.

Right, couldnt agree more. I just got promoted to some paperclip counting b.s. job, its boring and repetitve but I'm still clearing 110, and theres a decent amount of o/t in this dept. by this time next year, I'll probably have a county car, and cellphone, then I just gotta ride out 8 years until I retire. thanks you guys are the best.
Hey pretty soon with all the promotions, you wont have any patrol, just bosses and specialized units, I cant wait, no more 911 calls, whos gonna answer them? I dont know, or care, let that be the jaskas... er i mean taxpayers problem
I agree, as a 10 year veteran on the cusp of being made a boss, I cant wait to see how screwed up things get when there are no patrol cops left, the o/t is going to go thru the roof when the staffing is cut even more, its going to get interesting real soon.
Frankly for all the hyperbole, I and most of my sector car neighbors are all 50 hours over where we were last march, its going to be a good year

03-12-2005, 04:49 AM
I cant wait to see how screwed up things get when there are no patrol cops left, the o/t is going to go thru the roof when the staffing is cut even more, its going to get interesting real soon.

This year between retirements and promotions patrol should lose around 200 cops, the county may hire about 100 -120 later on in the year, but it keeps getting pushed back. A fall class is a spring graduation, field training the middle of summerof next year, before they're on their own. Which by then another 100 or so will be promoted or retired.
Unless dormer makes huge cuts in patrol, there will be never ending overtime,again showing this regimes bad management.

Ditto Head
03-12-2005, 08:36 AM
I really hope so, I need the money!!

03-12-2005, 04:59 PM
cant wait to see how screwed up things get when there are no patrol cops left, the o/t is going to go thru the roof when the staffing is cut even more, its going to get interesting real soon
I've personally never hit 150 so fast, not even midway thru March? between the glut of calls on the board( response time is down on all tours, by 10% on priority calls and 23% on non priority) and the amount of committals and even the manpower shortage, and this is with cope filling cars and sectors shutting down. It might be time to reinvent the wheel, richie me boy

circle of o/t
03-13-2005, 10:35 AM
cant wait to see how screwed up things get when there are no patrol cops left, the o/t is going to go thru the roof when the staffing is cut even more, its going to get interesting real soon

I've personally never hit 150 so fast, not even midway thru March? between the glut of calls on the board( response time is down on all tours, by 10% on priority calls and 23% on non priority) and the amount of committals and even the manpower shortage, and this is with cope filling cars and sectors shutting down. It might be time to reinvent the wheel, richie me boy
This could be better than the late 90s when they didnt hire and threw out that test.
Hopefully the oldtimers hit some good numbers these next few years, so theyhit a nice 3 year average, then retire. Opening more bull s jobs leading to more promotions, more promotions, more retirements, more overtime, then it starts all over again.

SC Resident
03-16-2005, 10:10 AM
In todays Newsday Letters section:

Top cop's acts are shameful

As a resident of Huntington for more than 30 years, and an ardent supporter of our police for as long, I was disturbed to receive a flyer (at taxpayer expense) in my mailbox wherein Suffolk Police Commissioner Richard Dormer and Suffolk County Executive Steve Levy attack the Police Benevolent Association and its officers for what he claims is a "misleading Madison Ave. campaign" stating "the PBA is not concerned about public safety but only protecting their compensation, which averages $114,000."

But I went from disturbed to appalled when I read "Top cop to quit private post" [News, March 10]. Dormer was not only collecting his salary and his retirement pension, but deliberately not disclosing income from his private post. All Suffolk officers are required to disclose any outside employment.

How can a professional supervisor criticize and demoralize his own men and question their worth in dollars, all the while hiding the fact that he himself is playing with the public's and the legislature's trust?

Loring Miller

Editor's note: The writer is chairman of Police Reserves of Suffolk County Inc.

Melville

no good
03-16-2005, 10:26 AM
As a resident of Huntington for more than 30 years, and an ardent supporter of our police for as long, I was disturbed to receive a flyer (at taxpayer expense) in my mailbox wherein Suffolk Police Commissioner Richard Dormer and Suffolk County Executive Steve Levy attack the Police Benevolent Association and its officers for what he claims is a "misleading Madison Ave. campaign" stating "the PBA is not concerned about public safety but only protecting their compensation, which averages $114,000
What I just dont get, if no one is being demoted fired or transferred, and the 2 cops are staying on the shift, where is the county saving money? We are getting screwed by this, not the cops.

Icarus
03-16-2005, 04:22 PM
The county thinks they will save money this summer when officers take vacation. They won't have to hire OT to fill the two sector cars that are closed. That's what it's all about. So, just when things start to get really busy there will be fewer cars on the street. Never mind the fact that COPE gets held over for OT on weekends, which will probably eat away any money saved.

03-16-2005, 11:17 PM
The county thinks they will save money this summer when officers take vacation. They won't have to hire OT to fill the two sector cars that are closed. That's what it's all about. So, just when things start to get really busy there will be fewer cars on the street. Never mind the fact that COPE gets held over for OT on weekends, which will probably eat away any money saved
Right but what about the 3x11 cars? Are they shutting them down when it gets busy if it incurs o/t?
No, thats self defeating, the cars were put there because of the increase in 911 calls
And if the spare guys on the overnight are off the same week a sectoe operator is off? overtime

Trafficstats
03-17-2005, 08:40 AM
My 3x11 just showed me the ''new'' system being employed called trafficstat. Like anything else attempted by this Admin, its a jumbled, useless, pretend, system of enforcing and minimizing accidents/road rage.
Of course it fails to address issues like when you cut down on patrol, there are less cops on the road to do the whole ''omnipresence'' thing. Actually their answer to this is AFTER you handle a mva on a main road, write it up there, so at least for the next 20 minutes, the traffic wont speed passed that 1 point of traffic.

Dormer the Performer T-Sh
03-18-2005, 01:09 AM
Ok rumor has it last nites inspection in the 6th pct, the lt made a statement that under strict authority of R. P*nzo no one is allowed to wear a ''Dormer the Performer T-Shirt '' sadly almost all the squad had no clue what it was, but one of the newer guys, when he clued us in, and we realized what we were facing....We Need That T-shirt!!!! how do we go about getting it?

03-18-2005, 07:09 AM
as for law enforcement levy sucks.........Romaine would have helped law enforcment in a big way. Levy sure talked a good game and had the rest of suffolk county fooled. Does anybody care what a correction officer has to deal with every day??? As a correction officer i can tell you it's no 9-5 job or helping an old lady cross the street. Levy has got to go so me and my fellow correction officers can recieve a FAIR CONTRACT. with levy i don't see it happining.................

you poor, poor, baby, really feel bad for you. Why don't you just quit you moron. Who said working in a jail would be fun!!!

Guest 26
03-18-2005, 09:24 AM
Ok rumor has it last nites inspection in the 6th pct, the lt made a statement that under strict authority of R. P*nzo no one is allowed to wear a ''Dormer the Performer T-Shirt '' sadly almost all the squad had no clue what it was, but one of the newer guys, when he clued us in, and we realized what we were facing....We Need That T-shirt!!!! how do we go about getting it?

Frayler is giving them out to a select group.

I saw it.. It's Hallarious. Shows Levy as an organ grinder with a monkey on a leash. Says "STEVIE AND DORMER THE PERFORMER".

SCPD PATROL 3
03-18-2005, 10:08 AM
There will be more shirts coming out as well as bumper stickers, I hear. I've seen guys wearing them around. Wait until the bumper stickers come out!!!!!

To the correction officer's post. You are right, Levy has to go. See the paper today, the AME was out in Hauppauge protesting. Good, keep it up. More attention has to be drawn to Levy's failure to deal with the municipal unions. Stay safe in the jail!!

To the Suffolk County Republican Party: You obviously have friends and votes in the law enforcement community. Don't blow this election like the last. Get your act together now and stand united. Put aside the party bickering, get behind your candidate early. This is your election to lose. If they win, it's going to be OVER!! Guys will say "why bother to vote" the next time after 2007.

PUT IT IN INK
03-18-2005, 10:43 AM
PRESENT A PETITION TO LEGISLATOR FULL OF VOTERS SIGNA :roll: TURES TO ACHIEVE YOUR GOAL.

turbinator
03-18-2005, 10:54 AM
CO's should be compensated. Man, i hate dealing with those smelly skells for a couple of hours in the pct...can't imagine dealing with all those savages everyday

R U Kidding?
03-18-2005, 11:13 AM
Ok rumor has it last nites inspection in the 6th pct, the lt made a statement that under strict authority of R. P*nzo no one is allowed to wear a ''Dormer the Performer T-Shirt '' sadly almost all the squad had no clue what it was, but one of the newer guys, when he clued us in, and we realized what we were facing....We Need That T-shirt!!!! how do we go about getting it?
The inspector told you, you cannot wear the t-shirt? To what extent? Under your blues, in private life?
Who does rp think he is?
The 6th needs to make an stand on this.

03-18-2005, 11:38 AM
[quote]
Who does rp think he is?
The 6th needs to make an stand on this.

Hes buddies with Steve Levy. Thats who he is. And thats why hes the Inspector.

03-18-2005, 11:44 AM
quote="R U Kidding?"] Quote:

Who does rp think he is?
The 6th needs to make an stand on this.


Hes buddies with Steve Levy. Thats who he is. And thats why hes the Inspector
Thats all good and fine, but dont draw a line in the sand, if no one even knew about the shirts in the squad, but 1 rookie, no one was going to wear them, now he just opened a can of worms

NEFARIOUS MIDNITE GUY
03-18-2005, 01:52 PM
Guys having to start going to the meetings. Who ever attended February's meeting got a T-Shirt. Its pretty sad only one guy in that squad had a T-Shirt. We must show solidarity.

SC Resident
03-18-2005, 03:55 PM
To the Suffolk County Republican Party: You obviously have friends and votes in the law enforcement community. Don't blow this election like the last. Get your act together now and stand united. Put aside the party bickering, get behind your candidate early. This is your election to lose. If they win, it's going to be OVER!! Guys will say "why bother to vote" the next time after 2007.

Good point SP3. We really need to gather the troops (both PD, CO, and normal residents like me).

Steve Levy will be tough to beat because of all the gullable people who actually believe his BS. We have to make sure EVERYONE knows when they see him on the cover of Newsday saying he's doing the right thing that its all BS when you really look at his policies.

03-18-2005, 05:45 PM
To the Suffolk County Republican Party: You obviously have friends and votes in the law enforcement community. Don't blow this election like the last. Get your act together now and stand united. Put aside the party bickering, get behind your candidate early. This is your election to lose. If they win, it's going to be OVER!! Guys will say "why bother to vote" the next time after 2007.

Good point SP3. We really need to gather the troops (both PD, CO, and normal residents like me).

Steve Levy will be tough to beat because of all the gullable people who actually believe his BS. We have to make sure EVERYONE knows when they see him on the cover of Newsday saying he's doing the right thing that its all BS when you really look at his policies.

Levy and Dormer are doing a great service cutting all the waste in SCPD

Guest 26
03-19-2005, 09:52 AM
To the Suffolk County Republican Party: You obviously have friends and votes in the law enforcement community. Don't blow this election like the last. Get your act together now and stand united. Put aside the party bickering, get behind your candidate early. This is your election to lose. If they win, it's going to be OVER!! Guys will say "why bother to vote" the next time after 2007.

Good point SP3. We really need to gather the troops (both PD, CO, and normal residents like me).

Steve Levy will be tough to beat because of all the gullable people who actually believe his BS. We have to make sure EVERYONE knows when they see him on the cover of Newsday saying he's doing the right thing that its all BS when you really look at his policies.

Levy and Dormer are doing a great service cutting all the waste in SCPD

Wow, great point. Please don't go into anymore detail though.

You don't want to ruin a great story with the facts.

03-19-2005, 10:28 AM
Levy and Dormer are doing a great service cutting all the waste in SCPD
Let me ask you what exactly has the admin cut?
You mean like not actually doing anything with patrol? just moving cars from 1 tour to another? Not cutting any personnel in patrol? Yeah so the midnights are down 2 cars for o/t, but the evening is UP 2 cars for o/t. What has been cut? Nothing just service on the midnites.
Lets talk about what levys added,A administrative(paperwork)_ Lt to each precinct. Making all the new sgts so the new lts could be made? Promoting from all ranks and leaving the patrol empty, its great, there is going to be huge amounts of o/t.
Factor in the 100+ retirements, and if the class of recruits goes in fall of this year, they wont be on the streets until next summer, so there will be another 100 retirements, more shortages in patrol.
Already this year because levys putting people thru emt and the range in the winter and spring, we have more o/t available than last year, most guys in my squad are well over 100 hours. The summer comes and everyone goes on vacation.... Yeeha!!!
Keep cutting stevie...please? This could be my 1st 750(40 grand) hour o/t year.

03-19-2005, 12:28 PM
Levy and Dormer are doing a great service cutting all the waste in SCPD
I agree. Promote and dont backfill,so instead of patrol officers answering 911 calls, we have ''special units'' and the detectives making b.s. loitering arrests.
Intead of a full squad of p.os , we have sgts up in the puzzle palace twiddling their thumbs for 6 months. Then when they get out they realize they're making less than us, because they almost outnumber us, and their is no overtime for them.
In the meantime the calls are stacked 4 deep, on both day and evening tours, guaranteeing someone overtime on every tour, and between the recerts and the manpower shortage, richie is looking quite inadequate. And we are hitting the lotto all over again.

03-19-2005, 10:42 PM
Levy and Dormer are doing a great service cutting all the waste in SCPD
I agree. Promote and dont backfill,so instead of patrol officers answering 911 calls, we have ''special units'' and the detectives making b.s. loitering arrests.
Intead of a full squad of p.os , we have sgts up in the puzzle palace twiddling their thumbs for 6 months. Then when they get out they realize they're making less than us, because they almost outnumber us, and their is no overtime for them.
In the meantime the calls are stacked 4 deep, on both day and evening tours, guaranteeing someone overtime on every tour, and between the recerts and the manpower shortage, richie is looking quite inadequate. And we are hitting the lotto all over again.
Do Sgts respond to actual 911 calls or just supervise once scene is secure?

03-20-2005, 12:22 AM
Do Sgts respond to actual 911 calls or just supervise once scene is secureThey only respond to a scene if requested by a po. There are mandatory notifications we must notify them of, certain crimes etc. A good sgt will show up as back up if NEEDED for back up, not to critique the officer, a really good street sgt would pick up a call, most would but the white shirts dont want them to actually.

Icarus
03-20-2005, 01:37 AM
True, a good sgt will respond as a backup when needed. However a good sgt will also respond, occassionally, to "critique" the officers under his/her supervision. In order to supervise effectively the sgt needs to see his troops in action, at least once in a while. As for picking up calls, the white shirts discourage it. A supervisor undermines his position by performing his subordinate's job. Besides, the PBA would scream bloody murder if it was done on a regular basis.

03-20-2005, 01:15 PM
As for picking up calls, the white shirts discourage it. A supervisor undermines his position by performing his subordinate's job. Besides, the PBA would scream bloody murder if it was done on a regular basis.


Thats funny I know of 2-3 ''white shirts''(lts) with more utts than half their squad,pumping up their squads stats

who ya gonna call?
03-20-2005, 04:01 PM
Well someone has to, right? Unless cops start writing in the firehouses, nothing gets written.

03-20-2005, 04:04 PM
Well someone has to, right? Unless cops start writing in the firehouses, nothing gets written
Right as if you know what a utt is, and no it has nothing to do with J.R. or how to force a door open :lol:

reverse sting
03-20-2005, 05:07 PM
Well someone has to, right? Unless cops start writing in the firehouses, nothing gets written
Its pretty clear you know as much about utts as you do cops, but for whatever reason you felt the need to comment as if the world is dying to hear your little opinion.
Everytime you post you act as if you have something to do with it, it being whatever the topic is. Far from the truth, the truth is you are powerless, you are only empowered if we argue with you, then it means we take you as a credible or respectable person. As long as we treat you like a joke, you are a joke.
And believe me you are a joke.

Icarus
03-21-2005, 12:15 AM
"Thats funny I know of 2-3 ''white shirts''(lts) with more utts than half their squad,pumping up their squads stats"


When squad stats are looked at and compared to other squads only the numbers produced by the PO's are considered. UTT's and arrests by sgt's and lt's don't count. These lt's are more than likely trying to "lead by example", i.e. get the deadbeats to do something. It really doesn't say much about the character of these squads if the lt has more numbers than the PO's and that he has to resort to such methods to encourage activity.

empty stats
03-21-2005, 09:18 AM
When squad stats are looked at and compared to other squads only the numbers produced by the PO's are considered. UTT's and arrests by sgt's and lt's don't count. These lt's are more than likely trying to "lead by example", i.e. get the deadbeats to do something. It really doesn't say much about the character of these squads if the lt has more numbers than the PO's and that he has to resort to such methods to encourage activity
Wrong I saw the activity sheets for all 5 squads for 04, had everyone from lt to desk crew and their ccs, 32s,utts, and the total for the ENTIRE squad tallied up. Then the ranking for each squad compared to the next.
So when the inspector gives his rah-rah speech and says you were 1st in whatever or tears us up for being last, the bosses stats count.

Icarus
03-21-2005, 09:34 AM
No, you're wrong. The bosses stats don't count. Why would they?And I stand by my opinion about the character of these squads.

03-21-2005, 09:44 AM
No, you're wrong. The bosses stats don't count. Why would they?And I stand by my opinion about the character of these squads
They do on paper

Stats and bosses
03-21-2005, 10:11 AM
When squad stats are looked at and compared to other squads only the numbers produced by the PO's are considered. UTT's and arrests by sgt's and lt's don't count. These lt's are more than likely trying to "lead by example", i.e. get the deadbeats to do something. It really doesn't say much about the character of these squads if the lt has more numbers than the PO's and that he has to resort to such methods to encourage activity

Wrong I saw the activity sheets for all 5 squads for 04, had everyone from lt to desk crew and their ccs, 32s,utts, and the total for the ENTIRE squad tallied up. Then the ranking for each squad compared to the next.
So when the inspector gives his rah-rah speech and says you were 1st in whatever or tears us up for being last, the bosses stats count
I took a sneak peek at our pcts list, the entire squad, including sgts, lts are on there. I dont know where the other guy/gal works but there wer two lts with decent #s one had 150, one over 300.
Nothing new, this has been going on for years, bosses who are ''upwardly mobile'' have no problem taking a low profile out and writing whatever the ticket of the month is,1203b2, 1229c3, or whatever. They of course are trying to ''pump up the stats'' of the squad, and yes they do count to the squads total.
Its a groundball, they never will go to tvb, as they will notify dispatch on the morning not to 10-12 them.

Icarus
03-21-2005, 10:30 AM
Where I work bosses stats don't count. No one has ever asked for mine, nor asked me to pick things up. Comparisons between squads don't include the boss's stats. Bosses who desire to be "upwardly mobile" achieve that by getting their squad to produce, not by producing for them. I don't know where you're getting your info but we can't call dispatch and tell them not to give us a "12". We get court notifications like everyone else and we can't ignore them. Besides, why would I turn down the OT? Bottom line is if the squad isn't producing the bosses are going to get an earful. The CO isn't going to be impressed with their numbers if the POs are doing nothing. The job of the sgt's and lt's is to get their squads to produce, not cover for their bad performance by doing their work for them. The CO knows this. No sgt or lt ever went anywhere because of his UTT's or arrests. Any boss who is out taking enforcement action is doing so to set an example for his squad, or he just couldn't ignore the idiots out on the roadway.

03-21-2005, 10:45 AM
Where I work bosses stats don't count. No one has ever asked for mine, nor asked me to pick things up. Comparisons between squads don't include the boss's stats. Bosses who desire to be "upwardly mobile" achieve that by getting their squad to produce, not by producing for them. I don't know where you're getting your info but we can't call dispatch and tell them not to give us a "12". We get court notifications like everyone else and we can't ignore them. Besides, why would I turn down the OT? Bottom line is if the squad isn't producing the bosses are going to get an earful. The CO isn't going to be impressed with their numbers if the POs are doing nothing. The job of the sgt's and lt's is to get their squads to produce, not cover for their bad performance by doing their work for them. The CO knows this. No sgt or lt ever went anywhere because of his UTT's or arrests. Any boss who is out taking enforcement action is doing so to set an example for his squad, or he just couldn't ignore the idiots out on the roadway
If you work in Suffolk County the bosses stats are on the totals for the squad, for the year.There is no difference on PAPER for totals for the squad, Nearly half my squad has seen them, all the sgts and lts are on the roll call for every squad. The C.O. cares about #s not who does them. You are right, bosses should do it that way, but some of them like to'' help out'' by writing tickets and doing their own little stop dwi patrol and switching down the closest sector car.Far more of them than you think.
I think its funny, anytime I have a 12 to tvb and dont want to go, I call my dispatcher and tell her/him I'm busy, if its someone I dont work with, I'll just call the desk. I've never been to tvb.
I live in the sixth pct and was pulled over by a lt in a low profile cope car last year during the cell phone drive. The next day I 13d a buddy who told me that lt, who is a young guy, early 30s wrote SEVEN cells that day, and berated the squad for not getting more than 7 between them.

Icarus
03-21-2005, 11:29 AM
Uh, yeah, I am in Suffolk. And yes, The CO does care who produces the numbers. Of course the bosses numbers are on the computer printout. How else can we keep track of where each piece of paper goes? That doesn't mean the bosses numbers count. When the squads are compared no one is concerned about what the bosses did. "Padding" the squads stats doesn't fool anyone. The bosses are judged by how well the PO's in their squads do their jobs. A squad with non-producers can't be made to look good by the bosses writing tickets. No one has asked me for my stats, or asked me to produce more. I have been "told" to get the deadbeats in my squad to do more. Get the picture? You can give me all the examples you want of lt's writing paper. If you had any idea what you were talking about you would realize you were making my argument for me. "He berated the squad for not getting more than 7 between them". And why don't you want to go to TVB? What are you afraid of? Grow a set and prove your case. And don't give me the lame excuse about being needed on the road. Sounds like you aren't doing anything important anyway. Maybe someday you'll get promoted and it will all become clear to you.

03-21-2005, 11:44 AM
Uh, yeah, I am in Suffolk. And yes, The CO does care who produces the numbers. Of course the bosses numbers are on the computer printout. How else can we keep track of where each piece of paper goes? That doesn't mean the bosses numbers count. When the squads are compared no one is concerned about what the bosses did. "Padding" the squads stats doesn't fool anyone. The bosses are judged by how well the PO's in their squads do their jobs. A squad with non-producers can't be made to look good by the bosses writing tickets. No one has asked me for my stats, or asked me to produce more. I have been "told" to get the deadbeats in my squad to do more. Get the picture? You can give me all the examples you want of lt's writing paper. If you had any idea what you were talking about you would realize you were making my argument for me. "He berated the squad for not getting more than 7 between them". And why don't you want to go to TVB? What are you afraid of? Grow a set and prove your case. And don't give me the lame excuse about being needed on the road. Sounds like you aren't doing anything important anyway. Maybe someday you'll get promoted and it will all become clear to you.
Relax there chumly, I was a boss in the city for 4 years before I came out here,K?
I have seen the stats for the ENTIRE squad, tallied for the year.
everyone is on them.INCLUDING THE LTS AND SGTS. They are all tallied INCLUDING THE LTS AND SGTS , and are set up in a manner easily compared to the next squad. There is no asterisk next to the 41 or the 36 operator, nor is there a seperate column for bosses. They are added in with ours, and then they are tallied up and added to the total
Additionally I've stood in the presence of the 34 as he tallied the 1203b2s for the day and the 41 said ''oh put me down for 3''
Maybe you have your head on straight, or understand what you are supposed to do, doesnt have didly to do with what the rest do.

DID CB WRIT YOU?
03-21-2005, 11:55 AM
Yeah, its true. Its scary when for the summer I average 26 utts for the month, and my road supervisor says" pretty good, you are 4th in the squad 10th in the pct, but you only beat C.B.(641) by 1 summons.
This is the same knucklehead that holds 1 sector car out per zone to do the hi-accident enforcement, even if there are no zone cars or relief drivers. Then when we relieve his squad we are a page deep in calls, some from as early as 1300.
Someone writes a summons, it counts for the squad. period.There are no asterisks for supervisors.

Icarus
03-21-2005, 12:13 PM
OOOOOh, a city (former) boss. That only proves you can read and write, Chumly. I say again, NO ONE cares what the bosses do as far as stats go. I feel like I'm trying to talk sense to one of those ignorant civilians who so frequently post here. If the cops in the squad are doing nothing, or next to nothing it won't make any difference in the CO's eyes if the bosses take up the slack. You're kidding yourselves if you believe that. I'm not impressed by your numbers or how "busy" you are. Been there, done that. When the performance of the squad is evaluated the only numbers that count are the numbers produced by the PO's. Period. End of story. Game over. That's all she wrote, etc, etc, etc.

03-21-2005, 02:34 PM
OOOOOh, a city (former) boss. That only proves you can read and write, Chumly. I say again, NO ONE cares what the bosses do as far as stats go. I feel like I'm trying to talk sense to one of those ignorant civilians who so frequently post here. If the cops in the squad are doing nothing, or next to nothing it won't make any difference in the CO's eyes if the bosses take up the slack. You're kidding yourselves if you believe that. I'm not impressed by your numbers or how "busy" you are. Been there, done that. When the performance of the squad is evaluated the only numbers that count are the numbers produced by the PO's. Period. End of story. Game over. That's all she wrote, etc, etc, etcPlease being a boss out here only proves you had the time to study. And you can sign some books at the 43. I posted my #s not to impress anyone just to make a point. Point is the bosses write summons and they are recorded on the stat sheets. At the end of the year, when the squads are compared and stats are tallied, the bosses names and stats do not get erased from the list, and count towards the annual total. Tell me whatever you would wish, but I saw what I saw.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but dont think because you say so, I'm going to believe you. I've talked to my sgts and lts, and since they arent concerned about numbers in our squad because we do our job, they willingly discuss the shennanigans of other squads. If a lt or sgt writes a summons it counts towards the squads total.Period. End of story. Game over. That's all she wrote, etc, etc, etc.
And why don't you want to go to TVB? What are you afraid of? Grow a set and prove your case. And don't give me the lame excuse about being needed on the road. Sounds like you aren't doing anything important anyway. .
I used to go to tvb, until I wrote a asst. chiefs uncles' neighbors cousin's friends daughter and was asked not ''forget'' the details of my traffic stop. I figured if I could dump one for some boss's 3rd cousin 4x removed, I could dump one for decent people who deserve a break, why should only our families get breaks? Lets give some breaks to the working stiffs.

2 2 the body1 to the head
03-21-2005, 03:25 PM
I've seen the so called ''stat sheet'' It has the entire squad listed alphabetically after the name comes the rank, then the stats calls, utts and arrests. At the bottom is the total. I didnt actually add them up but since the bosses are listed, the bosses in my squad really didnt have much there. I'd imagine their numbers are included, and it would seem likely the same sheet I saw is exactly how the sheets read at the puzzle palace.
I do find it curious why a sgt or lt would write that much paper, my guess is there are trying to pad the stats, in order, to have better numbers, especially when the brass is doing the seatbelt or cellphone enforcement.
And icarus if you look at example with the lt, he was using a low profile(Undercover or no party lights) patrol car, not answering 911 calls. It sets a bad example for all bosses to have a boss out there writing that much. A supervisor is to supervise, not enforce, of course anything observed is at his discretion, but if you have a lt writing 20+ a month, how long before all road superviosrs are going to be expected to write that many?

Icarus
03-21-2005, 03:58 PM
Spare me will ya! How many staff meetings have you sat in on? How many conversations have you had with your CO? How many times have you spoken to a Chief about this. I'm willing to bet the number is zero. I've seen the same "stat sheets" you have. In the CO's office and at staff meetings no one, and I mean NO ONE is even looking at any numbers produced by the bosses. The only numbers anyone is concerned with are the numbers put up by the PO's. When the county calls one of their "Look what we did " press conferences all the numbers are included. No one is ignoring them or pretending they don't exist. The fact remains when the CO is EVALUATING THE SQUADS he is looking only at the PO's stats. So until you can tell me you're privy to other information your argument holds no water.
Yeah, I studied. If it's as simple as that what's holding you back? Time is at a premium for me too. There's a world of difference between making boss out here and doing it in the city. Like I said, being able to read and write gets you promoted in the city.


Have you taken a good look at the roads lately? Too many people are getting "breaks". The same guy who shakes your hand in church will cut you off on the way home, then give you the finger. Give these people a break and they drive away and as soon as they think you're not looking they will do the same thing that caught your attention in the first place. If more people got tickets and more cops went to TVB to convict them the roads would be much safer for me, you and our families. (I don't know how this topic got to be part of the issue)

Icarus
03-21-2005, 04:06 PM
The lt mentioned is well known. He deserves his own thread and is not a "typical" situation. Using him to further the argument is losing sight of the issue. The bosses can't pad the squads stats. Four bosses writing lots of paper won't make a squad full of do nothings look good in comparison to a working squad. The PO's are evaluated on what they do, not what their bosses do. The bosses are evaluated on what their squad does, not what they do.


I've had enough. I won't respond to any other posts about this issue.

03-21-2005, 04:32 PM
Spare me will ya! How many staff meetings have you sat in on? How many conversations have you had with your CO? How many times have you spoken to a Chief about this. I'm willing to bet the number is zero. I've seen the same "stat sheets" you have. In the CO's office and at staff meetings no one, and I mean NO ONE is even looking at any numbers produced by the bosses. The only numbers anyone is concerned with are the numbers put up by the PO's. When the county calls one of their "Look what we did " press conferences all the numbers are included. No one is ignoring them or pretending they don't exist. The fact remains when the CO is EVALUATING THE SQUADS he is looking only at the PO's stats. So until you can tell me you're privy to other information your argument holds no water.
I wasnt talking about evaluating the squad. you are.
Believe what you want. As will I, and I just dont believe you.

Whole 'nother topic
03-21-2005, 04:36 PM
Yeah, I studied. If it's as simple as that what's holding you back? Time is at a premium for me too. There's a world of difference between making boss out here and doing it in the city. Like I said, being able to read and write gets you promoted in the city

And having a couple relatives or friends already with the stripes gets you the test answers......oops I mean promoted out here.
I've been out here for 3 years havent been eligible for the test yet.
I'm not sure if I want it out here, way too much kissy-kissy going on, no one wants to make waves, just be a yes man.

Real Cop.
03-21-2005, 05:06 PM
And why don't you want to go to TVB? What are you afraid of? Grow a set and prove your case. And don't give me the lame excuse about being needed on the road. Sounds like you aren't doing anything important anyway. .

I used to go to tvb, until I wrote a asst. chiefs uncles' neighbors cousin's friends daughter and was asked not ''forget'' the details of my traffic stop. I figured if I could dump one for some boss's 3rd cousin 4x removed, I could dump one for decent people who deserve a break, why should only our families get breaks? Lets give some breaks to the working stiffs
Thanks for the information, officer any other breaks you are forced to give your superior officers friends? So you intentionally ''forgot'' your testimony under oath on the orders of a superior officer? I guess the difference between a scpd superior officer and a nypd superior officer is besides ''reading and writing''(and actually being a man, which East End cupcake bosses arent)also bullying your rank and file into giving your friends a freebie. Nice ethics out there.

Been there already
03-21-2005, 05:29 PM
Hey "real cop", check your W-2, I believe being a "man" includes the ability to provide for your family. Keep the "real job" nonsense in the "big bad" city. We passed the test, if you couldn't, thats really no ones problem but your own, so keep the bitterness to yourself.

03-21-2005, 06:49 PM
Hey "real cop", check your W-2, I believe being a "man" includes the ability to provide for your family. Keep the "real job" nonsense in the "big bad" city. We passed the test, if you couldn't, thats really no ones problem but your own, so keep the bitterness to yourself
Right money equals being a real cop, keep telling yourself that, you wouldnt last 5 minutes in the city, you'd be hiding behind the 1st meter maid you found.

03-21-2005, 06:50 PM
Icarus
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:36 pm



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The lt mentioned is well known. He deserves his own thread and is not a "typical" situation. Using him to further the argument is losing sight of the issue. The bosses can't pad the squads stats. Four bosses writing lots of paper won't make a squad full of do nothings look good in comparison to a working squad. The PO's are evaluated on what they do, not what their bosses do. The bosses are evaluated on what their squad does, not what they do.


I've had enough. I won't respond to any other posts about this issue



What a shame, you'll be missed, dont let the door hit your ass on the way out, brown nose suckup

03-21-2005, 07:04 PM
Hey "real cop", check your W-2, I believe being a "man" includes the ability to provide for your family. Keep the "real job" nonsense in the "big bad" city. We passed the test, if you couldn't, thats really no ones problem but your own, so keep the bitterness to yourself
The reality is my wife wanted to be a cop, but we didnt want her to mess her hair or anything, so she joined the scpd, where she does nothing but drive around answer 10-73 alarms, go to domestics and do mariage counseling at the same 3-4 houses a nite, and write tags on state and county roads, then she puts some cute little symbol on the upper right hand corner to show its a " hi-mva area". Oh and once a month there is a actual felony like a bank robbery, like the one in Ronkonkoma, where the off duty got a plate, and half the 4th pct was staking out the house the chick USED to live in, 2 years ago, meantime she was caught in Nassau county or something. I'm sure you were involved in that caper, bumbling fool.
I digress, she does this, write hi-mva tags, to appease her suck up bosses who are spineless and refuse to stand up to TPTB, and demand more officers for patrol. Because the bosses are fat and happy and hope someday to be just like the Oak leaf ass whose dry-cleaning they're picking. Yeah, you de' man.

Seen/heard enough
03-21-2005, 08:00 PM
You're probably too foolish to understand that half of the cops out on L.I. pushed a rmp in the 5 boroughs before they had an opportunity to better their lives and the lives of their families. If (and I say if) your wife is on the job, you'd know that she goes out the door facing the unknown daily. Nice to know you think so highly of her. You sound like the kind of guy that would want to tell a cop in Nebraska that he is a knucklehead who never really saw the real world like you did. You probably wrote the book, right Bumper?

03-22-2005, 01:03 AM
Somehow I doubt this guy icarus is actually a cop let alone a supervisor. For him to come out and attack a MOS for working in the city and starting all that childish we are better than them crap, just seems petty. In general most of his posts are arrogant and condescending as if hes telling us all stuff we havent heard before, and if someone disagrees he throws a fit. Hey that does sound like a scpd sgt, ha!
I've worked out here my entire career as a po and my interactions with bosses are signing my book, paperwork and overtime. Occasionally I notify him of a call,say a domestic harassment and write his name on the dir. Or out of courtesy I inform him I'm calling out Crime scene or the squad, not that he cares. Somehow I would imagine nypd sgts are far more involved with their squads, either to cover both their asses literal or figurative, or because thats what sgts are supposed to do.

03-22-2005, 09:27 AM
You're probably too foolish to understand that half of the cops out on L.I. pushed a rmp in the 5 boroughs before they had an opportunity to better their lives and the lives of their families. If (and I say if) your wife is on the job, you'd know that she goes out the door facing the unknown daily. Nice to know you think so highly of her. You sound like the kind of guy that would want to tell a cop in Nebraska that he is a knucklehead who never really saw the real world like you did. You probably wrote the book, right Bumper
You jackass, I'm a city cop, shes a scpd

SCPD PATROL 3
03-22-2005, 10:24 AM
I believe this has come up before (evaluating POs/squads based on stats). I still cannot figure out why this Dept continues to believe that the "better" PO (even squad) writes the most summonses. Other dynamics of how an officer (again, even squad) handles his/her sector, works with other officers (TEAM EFFORT), deals/relates with the public do not EVER come into play. You put in for a detail what does the dept want STATS/SICK TIME. Have you ever seen anyone rated on anything other than stats? I've known some very good street cops who don't write as many summonses as others in their squad who get passed over for an automaton with a black pen and no working knowledge of any other form other than an UTT. Some of these automatons will be supervisors one day. Please don't get me wrong, I enjoy patrol, just making an observation as to what I've seen.

guest4565
03-22-2005, 10:54 AM
I know exactly who your wife is! She's the one the says she tired of bringing home the bacon and wants a real man who can bring home a real paycheck. That why she's banging the rookie in her neighboring sector. I hope you do realize that she's banged many rich SC cops since she's been on. They all do! That's why I would never have married a cop. And if your who I think you are, she is really with that new guy. Next time you go down on your wife just think that hours before a rich suffolk c@ck was right there where you are and was pounding away! Enjoy your long city commute and your long 8 hour and 35 minute tours while she enjoys Suffolks finest! So as we thank you for keeping the city safe for peanuts I also thank you for your wife (who doesn't want to mess up her hair). She's made us all very happy on Long Isalnd and our job even better than it is.

03-22-2005, 11:47 AM
know exactly who your wife is! She's the one the says she tired of bringing home the bacon and wants a real man who can bring home a real paycheck. That why she's banging the rookie in her neighboring sector. I hope you do realize that she's banged many rich SC cops since she's been on. They all do! That's why I would never have married a cop. And if your who I think you are, she is really with that new guy. Next time you go down on your wife just think that hours before a rich suffolk c@ck was right there where you are and was pounding away! Enjoy your long city commute and your long 8 hour and 35 minute tours while she enjoys Suffolks finest! So as we thank you for keeping the city safe for peanuts I also thank you for your wife (who doesn't want to mess up her hair). She's made us all very happy on Long Isalnd and our job even better than it is.


Ha, thats funny, my wife is about 50 years old, and about 30 lbs overweight, if that rookie wants her he can have her.Shes actually out of patrol, just thru the mva and robbery thang in for drama, and she thinks you all are the biggest marys and drama queens in the world, crying about chronic alarms, having to drive into the pct to gas up, and how long quartermaster takes to fit your tighty whities around your fats asses.

Grow up kids
03-22-2005, 12:16 PM
Somehow I doubt this guy icarus is actually a cop let alone a supervisor. For him to come out and attack a MOS for working in the city and starting all that childish we are better than them crap, just seems petty. In general most of his posts are arrogant and condescending as if hes telling us all stuff we havent heard before, and if someone disagrees he throws a fit. Hey that does sound like a scpd sgt, ha!
I've worked out here my entire career as a po and my interactions with bosses are signing my book, paperwork and overtime. Occasionally I notify him of a call,say a domestic harassment and write his name on the dir. Or out of courtesy I inform him I'm calling out Crime scene or the squad, not that he cares. Somehow I would imagine nypd sgts are far more involved with their squads, either to cover both their asses literal or figurative, or because thats what sgts are supposed to do
I'm going to agree. Anyone who sits and makes fun of another LEO just because he makes a few bucks more or is a sgt,(which I dont see icaris being either) is either insecure or very immature. Same job, County and village cops have it good out here, the nypd is underpaid. All cops should make a decent salary, and shouldnt get into pissing contests over whos better,''Oh yeah my dad can beat up yours"
''My house is bigger than yours" sounds like my 5 year old and his friends, grow up.

laddie boy
03-22-2005, 12:46 PM
Hey "real cop", check your W-2, I believe being a "man" includes the ability to provide for your family. Keep the "real job" nonsense in the "big bad" city. We passed the test, if you couldn't, thats really no ones problem but your own, so keep the bitterness to yourself
Right money equals being a real cop, keep telling yourself that, you wouldnt last 5 minutes in the city, you'd be hiding behind the 1st meter maid you found.

You know it's kind of funny what you wrote. I have spoken to numerous former NYPD guys who came out here. They all say the same thing - They do much more work out here . They make more arrests in two months now than they averaged for a whole year in the city ( the real job ). In a square mile area anywhere in the city you have an army of cops practically running each other over. No shortage of backup thats for sure. Several years back they had an article in the Daily News about the NYPD and arrest statistics. The average NYPD officer averaged less than I believe it was less than 5 arrests per year . That's taking into consideration all their special units that probably make 3/4's of all their arrests. They have the real job, what a joke.

playskool
03-22-2005, 03:20 PM
Why dont all you rookies just get the ole tape measure out and see who is hung the best, grow up!

Seen/heard enough
03-22-2005, 09:24 PM
You're probably too foolish to understand that half of the cops out on L.I. pushed a rmp in the 5 boroughs before they had an opportunity to better their lives and the lives of their families. If (and I say if) your wife is on the job, you'd know that she goes out the door facing the unknown daily. Nice to know you think so highly of her. You sound like the kind of guy that would want to tell a cop in Nebraska that he is a knucklehead who never really saw the real world like you did. You probably wrote the book, right Bumper
You jackass, I'm a city cop, shes a scpd

Yes....thanks for demonstrating for all your level of intellect. Your partner must pinch himself (you wouldn't ride with a female,would you?) after every tour just to prove he's not dreaming. I've seen/heard enough. Bumper. Now, get them peddlers off the corner.

03-23-2005, 05:21 AM
Seen/heard enough
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:54 pm
Guest
Anonymous wrote:
Quote:
You're probably too foolish to understand that half of the cops out on L.I. pushed a rmp in the 5 boroughs before they had an opportunity to better their lives and the lives of their families. If (and I say if) your wife is on the job, you'd know that she goes out the door facing the unknown daily. Nice to know you think so highly of her. You sound like the kind of guy that would want to tell a cop in Nebraska that he is a knucklehead who never really saw the real world like you did. You probably wrote the book, right Bumper
You jackass, I'm a city cop, shes a scpd
Yes....thanks for demonstrating for all your level of intellect. Your partner must pinch himself (you wouldn't ride with a female,would you?) after every tour just to prove he's not dreaming. I've seen/heard enough. Bumper. Now, get them peddlers off the corner


I'm going to side with playskool. You must have snuck on the computer while mommy was out of the room. This was a ok discussion until you came along playing bosscop, pretending to order everyone around and chasing off the few remaining adults posting here. Now run along now little one, leave the message boards to the adults, Dora is on go watch

Seen/heard enough
03-23-2005, 02:11 PM
Seen/heard enough
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:54 pm
Guest
Anonymous wrote:
Quote:
You're probably too foolish to understand that half of the cops out on L.I. pushed a rmp in the 5 boroughs before they had an opportunity to better their lives and the lives of their families. If (and I say if) your wife is on the job, you'd know that she goes out the door facing the unknown daily. Nice to know you think so highly of her. You sound like the kind of guy that would want to tell a cop in Nebraska that he is a knucklehead who never really saw the real world like you did. You probably wrote the book, right Bumper
You jackass, I'm a city cop, shes a scpd
Yes....thanks for demonstrating for all your level of intellect. Your partner must pinch himself (you wouldn't ride with a female,would you?) after every tour just to prove he's not dreaming. I've seen/heard enough. Bumper. Now, get them peddlers off the corner


I'm going to side with playskool. You must have snuck on the computer while mommy was out of the room. This was a ok discussion until you came along playing bosscop, pretending to order everyone around and chasing off the few remaining adults posting here. Now run along now little one, leave the message boards to the adults, Dora is on go watch


So when I get on a nut job as he conducts beat downs on supposed fellow cops, I'm being a "boss cop"? When he berates cops, in general, on L.I. because we're not up to his definition of a cop, it's considered to be an "ok discussion".
As for my computer habits, I usually look at this page once or twice a month. And it's always during the day/evening. I see that you posted at 4 in the morning. Well now, no one to keep you warm at night? Or do you surf the web late at night (when Mommy is sleeping) and create a little heat for yourself? Don't forget to wash up when you're done, ballbag.

playground fight rules
03-23-2005, 05:52 PM
So when I get on a nut job as he conducts beat downs on supposed fellow cops, I'm being a "boss cop"? When he berates cops, in general, on L.I. because we're not up to his definition of a cop, it's considered to be an "ok discussion".
As for my computer habits, I usually look at this page once or twice a month. And it's always during the day/evening. I see that you posted at 4 in the morning. Well now, no one to keep you warm at night? Or do you surf the web late at night (when Mommy is sleeping) and create a little heat for yourself? Don't forget to wash up when you're done, ballbag
So what you are saying is;
Wah, He started.

Icarus
03-23-2005, 06:16 PM
"What a shame, you'll be missed, dont let the door hit your ass on the way out, brown nose suckup"

The words of a nitwit who can't score higher than a 90 on the sgt's test. Being able to tell people like you what to do and when to do it is worth it.
Didn't say I wouldn't respond to name calling.

Not Impressed
03-23-2005, 07:20 PM
What a shame, you'll be missed, dont let the door hit your ass on the way out, brown nose suckup"

The words of a nitwit who can't score higher than a 90 on the sgt's test. Being able to tell people like you what to do and when to do it is worth it.
Didn't say I wouldn't respond to name calling
On this board you arent a sgt, just another dipshit with another dipshit opinion. If you even are one, big deal, dime a dozen.
There a difference between being ABLE to tell me what to do and actually getting off your lard ass and doing so.(and of course knowing what you are talking about).
Plus, there is nothing like out grossing your bosses onn a yearly basis, or getting the 1 1/2 hr o/t on the same call he aint because hes expected to ''take one for the team''
Oh let me guess, none of that applies to you, right?

exactamundo
03-23-2005, 07:27 PM
Oh let me guess, none of that applies to you, right?
Right, anyone who talks like that either isnt a sgt, a cop or a adult or all of the above.

03-23-2005, 08:14 PM
"On this board you arent a sgt, just another dipshit with another dipshit opinion. If you even are one, big deal, dime a dozen.
There a difference between being ABLE to tell me what to do and actually getting off your lard ass and doing so.(and of course knowing what you are talking about).
Plus, there is nothing like out grossing your bosses onn a yearly basis, or getting the 1 1/2 hr o/t on the same call he aint because hes expected to ''take one for the team''
Oh let me guess, none of that applies to you, right?

Dime a dozen, huh? What does that make you. Have fun working the extra 400 hours to make up the difference. I'll spend that time with my family doing something I enjoy. Somehow it always comes down to money when you have nothing else to say. By the way, I think I've got a fine ass. I've received many compliments. The only lard asses I've seen are the lazy PO's, based on the stats I've seen.

03-24-2005, 04:41 AM
So when I get on a nut job as he conducts beat downs on supposed fellow cops, I'm being a "boss cop"? When he berates cops, in general, on L.I. because we're not up to his definition of a cop, it's considered to be an "ok discussion".
As for my computer habits, I usually look at this page once or twice a month. And it's always during the day/evening. I see that you posted at 4 in the morning. Well now, no one to keep you warm at night? Or do you surf the web late at night (when Mommy is sleeping) and create a little heat for yourself? Don't forget to wash up when you're done, ballbag
Me again try I workthe 9x7, take my meal at 0400 every morning. Cute though. You thought you had a soul mate huh?

03-24-2005, 04:54 AM
Dime a dozen, huh? What does that make you. Have fun working the extra 400 hours to make up the difference. I'll spend that time with my family doing something I enjoy. Somehow it always comes down to money when you have nothing else to say. By the way, I think I've got a fine ass. I've received many compliments. The only lard asses I've seen are the lazy PO's, based on the stats I've seen.


I find it hard to believe you are even currently employed, let alone a police officer. Having a title doesnt make you a leader, how you treat people does, you dont sound too stable, no doubt why you HAD to be made, if you really are a cop, either a fem desiring the ''rod of power'' or one of those napoleon wannabes all 5'4'' soaking wet 120lber.Or of course just wanted out of patrol.
400 hrs is a blink of the eye, if you are good, you can hit 250 on refusals and tvb. It is funny looking at the o/t list for bosses, signed to the max and no one being hired, and watch all of the moaning about it. And yes nothing like signing off a o/t slip for 45 minutes , and the sgt on the same call takes eats it. As far as time with your families, when I worked 2 tour, and was at the pct at 1530 on a 32, I see all the bosses signing off the paperwork for the squad, for free from my squad. Again taking it for the team.

03-24-2005, 06:30 AM
this board you arent a sgt, just another dipshit with another dipshit opinion. If you even are one, big deal, dime a dozen.
There a difference between being ABLE to tell me what to do and actually getting off your lard ass and doing so.(and of course knowing what you are talking about).
Plus, there is nothing like out grossing your bosses onn a yearly basis, or getting the 1 1/2 hr o/t on the same call he aint because hes expected to ''take one for the team''
Oh let me guess, none of that applies to you, right?

Dime a dozen, huh? What does that make you. Have fun working the extra 400 hours to make up the difference. I'll spend that time with my family doing something I enjoy. Somehow it always comes down to money when you have nothing else to say. By the way, I think I've got a fine ass. I've received many compliments. The only lard asses I've seen are the lazy PO's, based on the stats I've seen
No way in hell you are a cop, no way a boss, if you are you must be 15 years old, because thats how mature you sound.
No one really cares what your ass looks like other than the Lt or Xo who you are spreading your ass cheeks for, you've shown your colors on this board, a suckup boy, crying about numbers, why should anyone do anything for you? Bad numbers from your squad means bad leadership, maybe you should let the boys in your squad have a piece of your hairy bum.

03-24-2005, 08:10 AM
Back to the topic Levy and his flannel mouthed puppet are ruining the Dept.

guest1000
03-24-2005, 03:12 PM
Come on. A lot of things need to be fixed in the pd. Especially getting rid of "Don Corleone" Robilotto. Things are never perfect, but we would of had more of the same if the old administration stayed. Remember not being allowed to respond on 9/11? HOW EMBARRASSING WAS THAT!

Icarus
03-24-2005, 04:39 PM
No way in hell you are a cop, no way a boss, if you are you must be 15 years old, because thats how mature you sound.
No one really cares what your ass looks like other than the Lt or Xo who you are spreading your ass cheeks for, you've shown your colors on this board, a suckup boy, crying about numbers, why should anyone do anything for you? Bad numbers from your squad means bad leadership, maybe you should let the boys in your squad have a piece of your hairy bum.

More dribble from one of the lazy minions who make up the SCPD patrol force. What's the issue this week? If it's not one thing it's another. Always looking for a reason for a "slowdown". I've got news for you, you can't get any slower unless you quit. Based on the job performances I've seen from most of you idiots it would be addition by subtraction. Whining crybabies. Primadonnas. Well paid I might add. I guess that makes me a well paid babysitter. Cops with 15 years who can't take a statement. Can't fill out a 104a properly. Can't do a domestic report without getting it bounced back 2-3 times. The contract, the contract, the contract. I can go on and on. Talk about true colors and immaturity. You peons can give it but you sure can't take it. I've seen 3 year olds with more class and maturity. Makes me wonder how most of you got this job in the first place. You've sure shown you can't do it. So call me whatever your juvenile minds can conjure up. If it helps you to feel better, that's great. It certainly is cheaper than professional therapy, which you all so obviously need.

03-24-2005, 05:11 PM
More dribble from one of the lazy minions who make up the SCPD patrol force. What's the issue this week? If it's not one thing it's another. Always looking for a reason for a "slowdown". I've got news for you, you can't get any slower unless you quit. Based on the job performances I've seen from most of you idiots it would be addition by subtraction. Whining crybabies. Primadonnas. Well paid I might add. I guess that makes me a well paid babysitter. Cops with 15 years who can't take a statement. Can't fill out a 104a properly. Can't do a domestic report without getting it bounced back 2-3 times. The contract, the contract, the contract. I can go on and on. Talk about true colors and immaturity. You peons can give it but you sure can't take it. I've seen 3 year olds with more class and maturity. Makes me wonder how most of you got this job in the first place. You've sure shown you can't do it. So call me whatever your juvenile minds can conjure up. If it helps you to feel better, that's great. It certainly is cheaper than professional therapy, which you all so obviously need
Right those who cant do patrol become sgts or dare cops

my lifelong dream
03-24-2005, 05:22 PM
More dribble from one of the lazy minions who make up the SCPD patrol force. What's the issue this week? If it's not one thing it's another. Always looking for a reason for a "slowdown". I've got news for you, you can't get any slower unless you quit. Based on the job performances I've seen from most of you idiots it would be addition by subtraction. Whining crybabies. Primadonnas. Well paid I might add. I guess that makes me a well paid babysitter. Cops with 15 years who can't take a statement. Can't fill out a 104a properly. Can't do a domestic report without getting it bounced back 2-3 times. The contract, the contract, the contract. I can go on and on. Talk about true colors and immaturity. You peons can give it but you sure can't take it. I've seen 3 year olds with more class and maturity. Makes me wonder how most of you got this job in the first place. You've sure shown you can't do it. So call me whatever your juvenile minds can conjure up. If it helps you to feel better, that's great. It certainly is cheaper than professional therapy, which you all so obviously need
Gee maybe when i grow up I can be a real cop like you and ''scratch'' books and paperwork for a living. Or when its inspection time, e-mai the squad i ''supervise'' and ask those pertinents questions, license exp, last time book scratched, how many warrants, thats real police work.
Or how about a domestic harassment 2nd notification?
Or calling for the squad or crime scene or aviation, after the officer on scene already did, even though you are still 15 minutes away?
Wow how fufilling.

03-24-2005, 06:17 PM
More dribble from one of the lazy minions who make up the SCPD patrol force. What's the issue this week? If it's not one thing it's another. Always looking for a reason for a "slowdown". I've got news for you, you can't get any slower unless you quit. Based on the job performances I've seen from most of you idiots it would be addition by subtraction. Whining crybabies. Primadonnas. Well paid I might add. I guess that makes me a well paid babysitter. Cops with 15 years who can't take a statement. Can't fill out a 104a properly. Can't do a domestic report without getting it bounced back 2-3 times. The contract, the contract, the contract. I can go on and on. Talk about true colors and immaturity. You peons can give it but you sure can't take it. I've seen 3 year olds with more class and maturity. Makes me wonder how most of you got this job in the first place. You've sure shown you can't do it. So call me whatever your juvenile minds can conjure up. If it helps you to feel better, that's great. It certainly is cheaper than professional therapy, which you all so obviously need
If the topics are that bad here, why do you feel the need to join in, unless its the fact that you pretty much fit right in with the rest of the trolls, whether or not they claim to be cops, sgts or just losers.

03-25-2005, 04:51 AM
More dribble from one of the lazy minions who make up the SCPD patrol force. What's the issue this week? If it's not one thing it's another. Always looking for a reason for a "slowdown". I've got news for you, you can't get any slower unless you quit. Based on the job performances I've seen from most of you idiots it would be addition by subtraction.
Ha, this coming from the largest parasite in the l.e. community. In the eyes of most sgts arent even considered supervisors, just glorified secretaries.
All a sgt wants to know is what you are doing for him. How you are going to help him move out of patrol, make him look good.
And there are 5 of them, talk about a waste of money. None of them can even get into work in a timely fashion. Then they kibbitz for a hour,and eat some more bagels. By the time they are ready for work, its almost noon, which means lunch, and more carbs.
Then they sign your book, sign the paperwork, and are home by 1445.
If levy want to save some money, he could fire 3 of them, have the desk sgt sign the memobooks and paperwork, and have the final goon acknowledge overtime at tour change. Thats about all we need from sgts.

03-25-2005, 06:22 AM
Didn't say I wouldn't respond to name calling.
Of course not, what child wouldnt

SCPD PATROL 3
03-25-2005, 08:53 AM
Thanks for the insult Icarus! I see you are a real morale booster

BossMan2
03-25-2005, 11:32 AM
More dribble from one of the lazy minions who make up the SCPD patrol force. What's the issue this week? If it's not one thing it's another. Always looking for a reason for a "slowdown". I've got news for you, you can't get any slower unless you quit. Based on the job performances I've seen from most of you idiots it would be addition by subtraction.
Ha, this coming from the largest parasite in the l.e. community. In the eyes of most sgts arent even considered supervisors, just glorified secretaries.
All a sgt wants to know is what you are doing for him. How you are going to help him move out of patrol, make him look good.
And there are 5 of them, talk about a waste of money. None of them can even get into work in a timely fashion. Then they kibbitz for a hour,and eat some more bagels. By the time they are ready for work, its almost noon, which means lunch, and more carbs.
Then they sign your book, sign the paperwork, and are home by 1445.
If levy want to save some money, he could fire 3 of them, have the desk sgt sign the memobooks and paperwork, and have the final goon acknowledge overtime at tour change. Thats about all we need from sgts.


What happened...can't score well enough on the sgt's test? Does your sgt. break your ball$? Are you one of the many that needs constant supervision?

Here's an idea...instead of crying about your sgt, why don't you funnel your energy into doing YOUR job and worrying less about everyone else's. Write a few more UTT's, don't $hitcan as many calls, and stay away from your firehouse for at least an hour at a time. Maybe then your boss will stop giving you such a hard time, and you can feel proud of what you do :)


Oh and if you had real ball$, you would post your A# or tin, and give the bosses a chance to respond to your ramblings in person, tough guy.

03-25-2005, 04:12 PM
What happened...can't score well enough on the sgt's test? Does your sgt. break your ball$? Are you one of the many that needs constant supervision?

[quote]
Ha thats original, try I'm in aviation, who the f%% cares about your stupid test, get a life, I make more on my parttime gig, than as a cop, grow up kiddie

03-25-2005, 04:15 PM
Here's an idea...instead of crying about your sgt, why don't you funnel your energy into doing YOUR job and worrying less about everyone else's. Write a few more UTT's, don't $hitcan as many calls, and stay away from your firehouse for at least an hour at a time. Maybe then your boss will stop giving you such a hard time, and you can feel proud of what you do


Uhhhmmmm no. I've read the whole post, there no one crying about their sgt, its mutual combatants, sgts trying to get over on patrol cops, patrol cops telling the sgts to go scratch.
As far as I go, sorry I dont handle calls, or hang out at firehouses. i think speaking for everyone here, I'll tell you '' go scratch''

03-25-2005, 04:17 PM
Oh and if you had real ball$, you would post your A# or tin, and give the bosses a chance to respond to your ramblings in person, tough guy.


Funny no one here is trying to act macho or defend their manhood, but theres always 1 in every crowd, right boss?
lowlife

SPRAWL OF THE TROLLS
03-25-2005, 04:38 PM
What happened...can't score well enough on the sgt's test? Does your sgt. break your ball$? Are you one of the many that needs constant supervision?

Here's an idea...instead of crying about your sgt, why don't you funnel your energy into doing YOUR job and worrying less about everyone else's. Write a few more UTT's, don't $hitcan as many calls, and stay away from your firehouse for at least an hour at a time. Maybe then your boss will stop giving you such a hard time, and you can feel proud of what you do


Oh and if you had real ball$, you would post your A# or tin, and give the bosses a chance to respond to your ramblings in person, tough guy.


Another troll heard from
hahahahahahahahahahha

03-25-2005, 05:34 PM
The SCPD Geographical Area Of Employment.

THE SCPD... PROTECTING FD PARKING LOTS COUNTYWIDE

Amityville Fire Dept. PO Box 725 Amityville
Babylon Fire Dept. PO Box 236 Babylon
Bayport Fire Dept. 251 Snedecor Ave
Bay Shore Fire Dept. 195 Fifth Ave.
Bellport Fire Dept. 161 Main St. Bellport
Blue Point Fire Dept. 205 Blue Point Ave.
Bohemia Fire Dept. 950 Pearl St. Bohemia
Brentwood Fire Dept. 125 Fourth St. Brentwood
Brookhaven Fire Dept. 2486 Montauk Highway
Center Moriches Fire Dept. 301 Main St. Center Moriches
Centereach Fire Dept. 9 South Washington Ave. Centereach
Centerport Fire Dept. 9 Park Circle Centerport
Central Islip Fire Dept. 97 Carleton Ave. Central Islip
Cold Spring Harbor Fire Dept. 2 Main St. Cold Spring Harbor
Commack Fire Dept. 6309 Jericho Turnpike
Copiague Fire Dept. 320 Great Neck Rd. Copiague
Coram Fire Dept. 303 Middle Country Rd. Coram
Cutchogue Fire Dept. PO Box 930 Cutchogue
Davis Park Fire Dept. PO Box 913 Patchogue
Deer Park Fire Dept. 94 Lake Ave. Deer Park
Dix Hills Fire Dept. 115 East Deer Park Rd. Dix Hills
East Brentwood Fire Dept. 26 Fulton St. Brentwood
East Farmingdale Fire Co. 930 Conklin St.
East Islip Fire Dept. 30 East Main St. East Islip
East Moriches Fire Dept. PO Box 605 East Moriches
East Northport Fire Dept. 1 Ninth Ave.
Eaton's Neck Fire Dept. 55 Eaton's Neck Rd. Eaton's Neck
Farmingville Fire Dept. 780 Horseblock Rd. Farmingville
Gordon Heights Fire Dept. PO Box 404 Coram
Great River Fire Dept. PO Box 664 Great River
Greenlawn Fire Dept. 23 Blvd. Greenlawn
Hagerman Fire Dept. 510 Oakdale Avenue East Patchogue
Halesite Fire Dept. 1 North New York Ave. Huntington
Hauppauge Fire Dept. 855 Wheeler Rd.
Holbrook Fire Dept. 390 Terry Blvd. Holbrook
Holtsville Fire Dept. 1025 Waverly Ave.
Huntington Fire Dept. 1 Leverich Pl.
Huntington Manor Fire Dept. 1650 New York Ave.
Islip Fire Dept. 28 Monell Ave. Islip
Islip Terrace Fire Dept. 264 Beaver Dam Rd. Islip Terrace
Kings Park Fire Dept. 2 East Main St. Kings Park
Lakeland Fire Dept. 929 Johnson Ave Ronkonkoma
Lindenhurst Fire Dept. 225 S. Wellwood Ave.
Manorville Fire Dept. 16 Silas Carter Rd Manorville
Mastic Fire Dept. 1080 Mastic Rd. Mastic
Mastic Beach Fire Dept. PO Box 483 Mastic Beach
Medford Fire Dept. 171 Oregon Ave. Medford
Melville Fire Dept. 531 Sweethollow Rd. Melville
Middle Island Fire Dept. Arnold Dr. & Route 25 Middle Island
Miller Place Fire Dept. PO Box 103 Miller Place
Mount Sinai Fire Dept. 746 Mount Sinai-Coram Rd. Mount Sinai
Nesconset Fire Dept. 25 Gibbs Pond Rd. Nesconset
Nissequogue Fire Dept. 643 Moriches Rd
North Amityville Fire Co. 601 N. Broadway Amityville
North Babylon Fire Co. 20 Hale Rd. North Babylon
North Lindenhurst Fire Co. Inc. 1630 Straight Path Lindenhurst
North Patchogue Fire Dept. 33 Davidson Ave Patchogue
Northport Fire Dept. 204 Main St. Northport
Patchogue Fire Dept. 15 Jennings Ave.
Port Jefferson Fire Dept. 115 Maple Place
Ridge Fire Dept. PO Box 500 Ridge
Rocky Point Fire Dept. 5 Tesla St. Shoreham
Ronkonkoma Fire Dept. 177 Portion Rd.
Sayville Fire Dept. 107 North Main St.
Selden Fire Dept. PO Box 2345 Selden
Setauket Fire Dept. 190 Main St.
Smithtown Fire Dept. 100 Elm Ave.
Sound Beach Fire Dept. PO Box 55 Sound Beach
St. James Fire Dept. 533 N. Country Rd. St. James
Stony Brook Fire Dept. 147 Main St. Stony Brook
Terryville Fire Dept. 19 Jayne Blvd. Port Jefferson Station
West Babylon Fire Dept. 126 Arnold Ave.
West Islip Fire Dept. 309 Union Blvd.
West Sayville Fire Dept. 80 Main St.
Wyandanch Fire Co. 1528 Straight Path
Yaphank Fire Dept. Main St

03-25-2005, 05:50 PM
Is there a point to that? Other than listing the relief points of some of the cars in suffolk? who cares?
talk about a colossal waste of time, you have nothing else to do with yourself but list some of the relief points, in alphabetical order, no less, bravo, your lifes work is complete.

03-25-2005, 05:52 PM
ps you missed a whole bunch of relief points, you suck, come back when you have all the facts!!!!!!!!!!

huge o/t this month
03-25-2005, 05:57 PM
How is cops qualifying for the range/ emt saving money when at least 3-4 cops are being hired a day on o/t to replace them? My lt said we were 200 hrs over our budget for scheduled o/t this month already, normally we are under by 50-70 hours in march.
All the guys from the range said they are going to be on vacation at least 1 month each over the summer, and they arent going to be available due to some training scpd range does for the govt over the summer. Another lame ass plan by the puzzle palace.
Not that I'm complaining mind you

03-26-2005, 04:31 PM
The SCPD Geographical Area Of Employment.

THE SCPD... PROTECTING FD PARKING LOTS COUNTYWIDE

Amityville Fire Dept. PO Box 725 Amityville
Babylon Fire Dept. PO Box 236 Babylon
Bayport Fire Dept. 251 Snedecor Ave
Bay Shore Fire Dept. 195 Fifth Ave.
Bellport Fire Dept. 161 Main St. Bellport
Blue Point Fire Dept. 205 Blue Point Ave.
Bohemia Fire Dept. 950 Pearl St. Bohemia
Brentwood Fire Dept. 125 Fourth St. Brentwood
Brookhaven Fire Dept. 2486 Montauk Highway
Center Moriches Fire Dept. 301 Main St. Center Moriches
Centereach Fire Dept. 9 South Washington Ave. Centereach
Centerport Fire Dept. 9 Park Circle Centerport
Central Islip Fire Dept. 97 Carleton Ave. Central Islip
Cold Spring Harbor Fire Dept. 2 Main St. Cold Spring Harbor
Commack Fire Dept. 6309 Jericho Turnpike
Copiague Fire Dept. 320 Great Neck Rd. Copiague
Coram Fire Dept. 303 Middle Country Rd. Coram
Cutchogue Fire Dept. PO Box 930 Cutchogue
Davis Park Fire Dept. PO Box 913 Patchogue
Deer Park Fire Dept. 94 Lake Ave. Deer Park
Dix Hills Fire Dept. 115 East Deer Park Rd. Dix Hills
East Brentwood Fire Dept. 26 Fulton St. Brentwood
East Farmingdale Fire Co. 930 Conklin St.
East Islip Fire Dept. 30 East Main St. East Islip
East Moriches Fire Dept. PO Box 605 East Moriches
East Northport Fire Dept. 1 Ninth Ave.
Eaton's Neck Fire Dept. 55 Eaton's Neck Rd. Eaton's Neck
Farmingville Fire Dept. 780 Horseblock Rd. Farmingville
Gordon Heights Fire Dept. PO Box 404 Coram
Great River Fire Dept. PO Box 664 Great River
Greenlawn Fire Dept. 23 Blvd. Greenlawn
Hagerman Fire Dept. 510 Oakdale Avenue East Patchogue
Halesite Fire Dept. 1 North New York Ave. Huntington
Hauppauge Fire Dept. 855 Wheeler Rd.
Holbrook Fire Dept. 390 Terry Blvd. Holbrook
Holtsville Fire Dept. 1025 Waverly Ave.
Huntington Fire Dept. 1 Leverich Pl.
Huntington Manor Fire Dept. 1650 New York Ave.
Islip Fire Dept. 28 Monell Ave. Islip
Islip Terrace Fire Dept. 264 Beaver Dam Rd. Islip Terrace
Kings Park Fire Dept. 2 East Main St. Kings Park
Lakeland Fire Dept. 929 Johnson Ave Ronkonkoma
Lindenhurst Fire Dept. 225 S. Wellwood Ave.
Manorville Fire Dept. 16 Silas Carter Rd Manorville
Mastic Fire Dept. 1080 Mastic Rd. Mastic
Mastic Beach Fire Dept. PO Box 483 Mastic Beach
Medford Fire Dept. 171 Oregon Ave. Medford
Melville Fire Dept. 531 Sweethollow Rd. Melville
Middle Island Fire Dept. Arnold Dr. & Route 25 Middle Island
Miller Place Fire Dept. PO Box 103 Miller Place
Mount Sinai Fire Dept. 746 Mount Sinai-Coram Rd. Mount Sinai
Nesconset Fire Dept. 25 Gibbs Pond Rd. Nesconset
Nissequogue Fire Dept. 643 Moriches Rd
North Amityville Fire Co. 601 N. Broadway Amityville
North Babylon Fire Co. 20 Hale Rd. North Babylon
North Lindenhurst Fire Co. Inc. 1630 Straight Path Lindenhurst
North Patchogue Fire Dept. 33 Davidson Ave Patchogue
Northport Fire Dept. 204 Main St. Northport
Patchogue Fire Dept. 15 Jennings Ave.
Port Jefferson Fire Dept. 115 Maple Place
Ridge Fire Dept. PO Box 500 Ridge
Rocky Point Fire Dept. 5 Tesla St. Shoreham
Ronkonkoma Fire Dept. 177 Portion Rd.
Sayville Fire Dept. 107 North Main St.
Selden Fire Dept. PO Box 2345 Selden
Setauket Fire Dept. 190 Main St.
Smithtown Fire Dept. 100 Elm Ave.
Sound Beach Fire Dept. PO Box 55 Sound Beach
St. James Fire Dept. 533 N. Country Rd. St. James
Stony Brook Fire Dept. 147 Main St. Stony Brook
Terryville Fire Dept. 19 Jayne Blvd. Port Jefferson Station
West Babylon Fire Dept. 126 Arnold Ave.
West Islip Fire Dept. 309 Union Blvd.
West Sayville Fire Dept. 80 Main St.
Wyandanch Fire Co. 1528 Straight Path
Yaphank Fire Dept. Main St
Just for you dipstick, I went outside for about 17 minutes today, then I got tired. Maybe tomorrow I'll try a 1/2 hour, maybe
By the way I'm one of 3 cars relieving at the 2 terryville houses you didnt list, dumbo

03-27-2005, 04:12 PM
How is cops qualifying for the range/ emt saving money when at least 3-4 cops are being hired a day on o/t to replace them? My lt said we were 200 hrs over our budget for scheduled o/t this month already, normally we are under by 50-70 hours in march.
All the guys from the range said they are going to be on vacation at least 1 month each over the summer, and they arent going to be available due to some training scpd range does for the govt over the summer. Another lame ass plan by the puzzle palace.
Not that I'm complaining mind you
It gets better, after talking to the cops at the range, they said most of them are no longer qualified as emts, and have nt been trained or inserviced with the domestic or any of the ''newer'' forms. Their plan is to go to whatever assignment they get, say a sector car, and advise when dispatched to any 911 calls like those posted, that they arent certified to respond.
This will force the county either to recertify for emt, (the month long class) or cancel the whole thing.
The real beauty is that the recert would pull most of the academy, inservice staff off the roads too.
Talk about egg on richies face

03-28-2005, 08:52 AM
It gets better, after talking to the cops at the range, they said most of them are no longer qualified as emts, and have nt been trained or inserviced with the domestic or any of the ''newer'' forms. Their plan is to go to whatever assignment they get, say a sector car, and advise when dispatched to any 911 calls like those posted, that they arent certified to respond.
This will force the county either to recertify for emt, (the month long class) or cancel the whole thing.
The real beauty is that the recert would pull most of the academy, inservice staff off the roads too.
Talk about egg on richies face


Eggcellent!!!

laddie boy
03-28-2005, 02:29 PM
sorry if this is duplicate news but apparently PBA went to state atty general Spitzer and he agrees that the PC did things Ethicly VERY WRONG !@!@ Further Dormer will be leaving in and around June 1st , siting "personal" reasons. I'm just praying that AC is not the next dep commish. a more racist guy would be hard to find .