Commissioner Lawrence

[MFD603]

Word circulating around Mineola and the City is that Comm. Lawrence will submit his resignation after the first of the year citing family/personal issues. Leading contender to replace him is NYPD 1st Deputy Commissioner who has been scouting for houses in Atlantic Beach and Point Lookout. Not quite a done deal but looks like it's gonna happen.

[A guy from the city takin]

I assume the original poster is referring to George Grasso the current NYPD 1st Deputy PC. He is an excellent manager and well respected by the rank and file. He has not had a chance to live up to his potential in the shadow of Ray Kelly, a confessed micro-manager. Not sure where he live's now but he might not be worse thing that ever happened to Nassau County.

[You'll see Sun of Suozzi]

Chief Ray Crawford

[caligula]

Can Suozzi be THAT disrespectful to the Nassau Cops?

As much as I think Suozzi is a bum, like most politicians, I have to give him credit for appointing men who were part of a professional police organization known as the NYCPD.

Perhaps some of their professionalism, integrity, honor and ethics will rub off on the NCPD.

[claudecobert]

Quote:If these people were so wonderful they'd have risen through the ranks of the NYC government where they spent their entire careers working.

If you were offered a police job where you could make more money and work in an environment where crime is comparatively non-existant, what would you do?

Suozzi should be lauded for attempting to bring some professionalism to the NCPD.

[armjob]

"Suozzi should be lauded for attempting to bring some professionalism to the NCPD."

So why is he looking in NYC?

[KICKED IN THE HEAD]

WHAT A FREAKING INSULT. YOU MEAN NASSAU COUNTY COPS AREN'T PROFESSIONALS? YOU NEED SOME GUY FROM NYC TO SHOW HOW TO ACT PROFESSIONALLY? THERE'S NOT ONE SINGLE NASSAU COP - EVEN A RETIRED ONE - GOOD ENOUGH TO LEAD YOU? IF THAT'S THE CASE, NOT ONE OF YOU DESERVES THE PAY YOU ARE GETTING - THAT KIND OF MONEY SHOULD BE RESTRICTED TO PROFESSIONALS. PLEASE - YOU CAN'T REALLY BELIEVE THAT A NYC GUY SHOULD COME IN AND TAKE OVER YOUR DEPARTMENT.

[another clown]

Suozzi should be lauded for attempting to bring some professionalism to the NCPD
where crime is comparatively non-existant

no offense to our rank and file brothers from the nypd, no boss worth anything has ever come from that job
as far as the poster these statements show just how much exposure he has to reality.
certainly to say crime is lower in many part of nassau compared to the city, but non-existant?
what home for the aged has computers in their rec room?

[very professional]

hopefully when the nypd bosses take over nassau, they'll implement the position of driver, for ncpd, where everyone over the rank of po gets a driver, preferably female,fresh out of the academy,of your choosing, best part of being a boss in queens,..sigh.

[Beautiful]

Can't you just see Newsday's headline: NYPD comes to Nassau cop's rescue - fixnassaucops.com

Suozzi gets re-elected in 2005

Suozzi goes back after cops - his pitch - bloated salaries, too many fringes, OT, deskjobs civilians should do, out of title workers, blah blah same ole same ole

NYPD can't stand the Nassau Cops whining - where HE comes from the cops work for practically free in the worst drug infested murder ridden ghettos in the country ---blah blah blah

NYPD sides with Suozzi - breaks with PBA Delaraba

Suozzi gets the public to side with him too - there's a complete public outcry
Why?
Look public - all we pay out all this money for the department and they're all such losers I had to reach into NYC to get a guy capable of leading to teach them some professionalism and fix them all up - they were such a mess not one guy could take command

Come on - don't let the man snow you.

[scpd patrol]

The NCPD is an extremely professional group of men and women. For the CE of Nassau to insinuate otherwise is a slap in the face of the members of the department. I would like to see a Nassau politician rebut the CE.

The reason why they are looking to tap someone from NYC is purely political. There are qualified people leading the NCPD, but obviously a political hack is where the CE is going. The Democratic cancer in NYC has fully metasticized and has spread into Nassau County. Watch out SCPD/ Suffolk County , we're next.
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[Unqualified]

The county charter prohibits the appointment of anyone who is NOT a nassau county resident for a certain time period UNLESS the County Executive certified that he MUST go outside the County because nobody within the county has the qualifications, talent or skill to do the job and show that the outsider has a special ability to lend to the county that nobody residing within the county has.

[eddie]

Lawrence was a former NYPD cop like most Nassau cops.
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[Paid his dues first]

He didn't start out as commissioner did he? He transferred over at an entry point and worked his way up, learning about the force from the bottom up, gaining the trust and allegiance of the troops. He paid his dues HERE. Get it?

[eddie]

I never said he didnt pay his dues in Nassau. I was just pointing out the he was a city cop.
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[NFW]

Lowrance came as commissioner........pathetic

[Are you sure]

If that is true, then you are right. That was pathetic - just as pathetic as it would be to do the same thing again today. I thought though that Lawrence was moved up through rank and file but maybe that was the commissioner he replaced - back when the GOP reigned - that's how they did it. Rank and file way. No wonder the cops are so pissed off at Suozzi - although from the posts - and I can't understand it - some of you seem perfectly fine with the slap he gave you then, and now.

[no joy in mudville]

you're kidding , right?.....you would be hard pressed to find more than a hand full who are "fine" with him or his commissioner....nor should the public be....those aren't cops posting......nassau cops anyway

[Pheww]

Glad to see the NCPD hasn't been compromised.

[midtown south]

hey getting back to that driver thing, its not that simple, you dont get your pick until you are a real boss, as a sargeant you just take who ever you get. nassau or suffolk would never do that, anyway. they just dont have the personnel available the city does, plus the officers ride single out there, which is absurd!!

[concerned]

Does anyone know what the residency requirements are for a potential Police Commissioner? How long must you have lived in teh county before you can be appointed? Any other requirements (administrative, not political)?
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[louie]

On June 10, 2002, James H. Lawrence was approved by the Nassau County Legislature to be appointed the next Commissioner of Police of the Nassau County Police Department.

Commissioner Lawrence joined the New York City Police Department in February 1970, and began his career on patrol in the 40 Precinct. As Chief of Personnel he was responsible for the management of human resource function related to all 55,000 employees of the New York City Police Department.

Prior to being appointed Chief of Personnel, he was the Commanding Officer of the School Safety Division. Chief Lawrence also served as the Executive Officer of the Office of the Chief of Department. In addition, he has commanded the Strategic and Tactical Commands, Brooklyn Housing Operations (Housing Borough Brooklyn), and the 105 and 113 Precincts. Other commands in which he served include the 40, 66 and 103 Precincts, Traffic Control Division, Tactical Patrol Unit, Office of the Deputy Commissioner of Training, Chief of Patrol's Office, and the Police Commissioner's Office.

A Vietnam veteran, Commissioner Lawrence served in the United States Army where he attained the rank of First Lieutenant. He also received a Bachelors Degree in Economics from Fordham University, and a Juris Doctorate from CUNY Law School at Queens College. He is a 1993 graduate of the Police Management Institute at Columbia University.

In addition to Commissioner Lawrence's command assignments and personal achievements, he has served as a member of the following:

Vera Institute of Justice Advisory Board, Adolescent Development, Safety and Justice.
New York City Police Department's Re-engineering Committee that prepared a comprehensive action plan to revitalize the Department. The Joint Committee to review the performance of school security functions, which was transferred to the New York City Police Department from the Board of Education in December 1998.
Commissioner Lawrence is a member of the following organizations:

National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives
American Academy for Professional Law Enforcement
Guardian's Association
New York State Association of Chiefs of Police
International Association of Chiefs of Police
Membership Chairman of the Law Enforcement Explorer's Program
Sigma Pi Phi Fraternity
Board of Directors of the Nassau County Municipal Police Chief's Association
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[Thanks Commissioner]

You certainly have a lovely resume - but you didn't belong in Nassau County.

Nassau County has a 1 year residency requirement. You must have lived in Nassau County 1 year prior to any appointment. The only way an outsider is suppose to get an exemption is if the job to be filled is so technical that there is absolutely no person who resides in Nassau County that can possible do the job. And even then, the appointee should be forced to move to Nassau County within 90 days of his appointment to show respect for the county that is now footing his bill.

Suozzi ignores the residency requirement for both his appointments and his civil service and union workers and he disses both the taxpayers who live here and the employees that live and work here. And then he can't figure out why we hate him and resent the people he puts in charge. They don't belong. And neither does he. End of story.

[lexordo]

I could be wrong but I though the PC lived in Westbury while he was a city cop. I know Willet lived in Westbury, I thought Lawrence did too.
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[Well then]

So the guy lived in Nassau and worked in NYC - too stupid to get into Nassau so he migrated West and now all of a sudden he's smarter than all the Nassau cops and gets spiked ahead of them all? HYMMM - you really got think about what Suozzi's agenda here really is.

[MFD603]

No one in the NCPD is capable of this job or they wouldn't have to go outside of the County. It's all politics. The department is overrated and it's members overpaid anyway. Maybe the new Commish can do something about that.

[the clown again]

No one in the NCPD is capable of this job or they wouldn't have to go outside of the County,
again no offense to our rank and file brothers of nypd but there is nothing competent,capable or professional from the suits of the nypd. they have more scandals than all of ncpd,nypd,scpd combined.
we arent overpaid, nypd is underpaid, and mgmt doesnt get involved in labor neg. anyway, thats between the county and the union

[eddie]

Well then,

What with the too stupid to be a Nassau cop post? Are you implying NYPD cops are not smart?

Think before you post you tool!
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[No Eddie]

No diss against NYPD - But what I am saying is there's nobody there any better than anybody here and somebody here has to be equal to their best over there so why not let them stay there and us stay here and promote one of us through the ranks instead of dragging one of them over here.

[eddie]

I agree but thats not up to Mr Lawrence. Many depatrment hire NYPD cops to head their departments. Some are good some arent...it is the largest department....but i can understand where you are coming from.
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[Fed Up]

The Commish sure does have a fine looking resume on paper.It is just too bad that he is an embarassment to this great Dept. once he opens his mouth to speak.Let us not forget how he got promoted to his first rank of Sgt. in NYC(after 17 years) off of a VERY SPECIAL LIST!!!!!!!!He has also failed to pass the Bar exam. Can anyone name one thing he has done in this Dept. since he took over 2 1/2 years ago? He still has a very narrow understanding of how this Police Dept. works. It is common knowlege throughout the Dept. that he is not capable of running one of the premier law enforcement agencies in the country. The moral among the rank and file and especially among the higher level brass is quite low to say the least. He promotes people to Detective based soley on attributes that are tantamount to reverse discrimination at the expense of other more qualified candidates. He is missing much of the time, too busy playing golf or going to Florida.He hired a Deputy Commissioner(Haviken) who sits in his office all day and does nothing(except for his lost in space walks in the parking lot of H.Q.) This is not a personal attack, as Comm. Lawrence is widely regarded as a nice person, but just not competent in any manner, shape or form.
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[funny]

oh but according to all the monday morning cops hes the ''professional'' ncpd needs
according to claudecobert;
Suozzi should be lauded for attempting to bring some professionalism to the NCPD
gee i thought claude actually knew something this time, oh wait hes just a disgruntled no one taking pot shots at our fine police department
gee could claude just be another sourpuss talking out of the hole in his head
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[Re: Comm. Lawrence]

yup just 3 gang related killings in the past month
''The moral among the rank and file and especially among the higher level brass is quite low to say the least''
refers to nypd dumbass
county's most wanted list.
do you stare at it all day, that is when you're not pestering the police on the police issues board

[diagnosis]

what bubble do you live in, no one is comparing nassau to the city, although there are many parts that come close now.
we have everything the city does, look around you, the burbs arent the safe little place you and mommy used to, or still walk hand in hand.
the previous poster is right you are a monday morning cop, sitting at the water cooler whining about every thing we do.its not our fault you pay 10000 in taxes and live next to illegals and bangers, move out to suffolk,they're going to export theirs. not our fault people dont know how to drive, do drugs, hurt and kill each other,steal and rob we just take the report. i know none of that will happen to me, sadly cant sat the same for you
you need some kkind of therapy for the obsession you have with cops or perhaps an outlet ffor your frustration with your meager little life

[perhaps dog theybountyhun]

thats a low blow, deserved but below the belt.

[eddie]

Sorry bro....but no where in Nassau comes close to any precinct in the city....not even a slow command like the 111 or 1st pct.
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[read it again]

never said that, but it isnt mayberry anymore either. unless your living in glenn head, and no one posting here lives in glennhead

[nassau vs city]

how many times have we gotten a perp with active warrants from the city and they've refused to send a po to pick him up.
yet at the same time there are the nypd iab sick chasers parking in our precincts to go and check to see if one of their own is playing hookey.
that more important than bringing in wanted subjects.
cant iab drive these guys back? or they too good now, only cops ride in their cage?
yes im sure nassau and suffolk both have turned down warrants, but if any ncpd, scpd was in the city they'd be returning with a warm body.suit or no suit.
before anyone posts, do you never call in sick? and that is the mismanagement of the professional nypd brass, not the boys in blue

[Looking]

personally i feel nassau and suffolk are like the city just prior to the crack rage of the 80s. i was a city cop 1975-1985, just retired nassau 2002, and live in suffolk all my adult life.
given time and the right conditions, urban sprawl, we'll be just as bad out here.

[look at this]

''If you were offered a police job where you could make more money and work in an environment where crime is comparatively non-existant, what would you do''
tell me s pants
then why do we have a gang czar?

[good one]

gee, maybe its the pretend crimes and gangs that we pretend to deal with.

[smartmoney]

A very reliable source (who shall remain nameless) within the NCPD tells me that this is all bullsh*t and Commissioner Lawrence is not going anywhere anytime soon. The source showed this topic to Lawrence himself who started to laugh so hard he almost pissed his pants. Oh Well!

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