Suffolk Police Academy

[Next Class]

Any tips?

[Patrol 2]

Keep your mouth shut, don't ask any question (even good ones), Make it your goal to have no instructors no your name by the end of the academy, do lots of push-ups, go over your private vehicle and make sure it's up to date (PBA stickers, stuff hanging from the mirrors, etc,) bring all issued gear to work EVERYDAY you will be checked once you start to relax, know the definition of stoic, SHINE YOUR SHOES till they are glass, keep your tie buttoned to your shirt, get shirt stays, cut your hair SHORT! ALWAYS keep an extra pair of everything close by, start studying your radio codes now, they will test you after a few days in your face, run run and run. oh yeah run, stare straight ahead when in formation., when they are screaming in your face resist the temptation to meet eye contact even though they are 3 inches from yourself, on the first day when you stand up to read, READ LOUD!!!!!!! Oh yeah enjoy that first paycheck , it makes it all worth it
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[wow]

did you go through recently??
i heard they relaxed a bit over there
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[975]

I feel like I am going back to boot camp...?.... Oh well, bring it on.

[Patrol 2]

I think they did relax a bit with the physical aspect of it. The rest I hear has always been the same.
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[hopeful1]

Does anyone know for sure if the rumor about the starting salary is true. I was told that in the last contract, the starting pay while in the academy was dropped to the mid 20's. Civil service said it was $1,909 bi-weekly which puts it in the upper 40's. I know I know. I'm listening to rumors. But with a mortgage, kids, cars, I have to know how to budget to get through the academy if it comes along.

[pay scale]

right now the base pay for suffolk is over 50,000 for the 1st 6 months,around 27 a hour, after the academy next 6 is close to 28 an hour, not including night diff, holiday etc. 2nd year is about 37 an hour.
each year it goes up a couple bucks an hour,in the academy. new hires will get different % raise nowfrom this list forward. nassau,nypd academy is in the 20s for the academy. probably the next class will be closer to 55000 in the academy. these are guestimates, im at step 3 right now, so i really dont know the exact numbers.
do yourself a favor, the single MOST important thing the 1st month or 2 is your uni, and your shoe shine work on pressing your uni, shining shoes

[scpd patrol]

Hopefully, you're getting into good physical conditioning now. They run your legs off.
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[Debbie4u]

Great tips fellas
how many miles do you run in a typical workout? how many days of the week do you do PT normally?
thanks
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[mike105]

debbie,they'll never get to your list # so don't worry about it.
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[PD]

That post from Patrol 2 sounds like he must have been in my class... that stoic bit was pure 00-134 lol You'll get to love Mike S., don't worry. Anyway, at least for us, a typical run in the beginning was like 3-5 miles The first day of PT was like 5... They are trying to push you to quit. DON'T!!! IT DOES GET EASIER, regardless of what Recruit Training will tell you. As for the rest, Patrol 2 hit it all right on the head. But I'll add, DON'T EVER BE LATE!! If your car is giving you problems, go to the academy and sleep in your car the night before. There are no excuses for that, and they will come up with creative punishment (i.e. Door Monitor) Good luck

[another tip]

always volunteer, when asked by a superior officer we need volunteers.
agrred with the shoe thing, sooner you can spit shine sooner they forget you

[and another]

they, meaning the instructors,want you to do things on ur own the sooner u can the sooner u'll be left alone.
also rely on each other, work as a team.
dont go running to po 4097 every time u have a problem, remember they arent your friends, dont trust them

[Debbie4u]

see ya guys at brentwood later in the month,
5 miles is not to bad although i think that number is high. its more like 2-3, i spoke to some people who been through it today
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[Patrol 2]

It will be 2-3 miles at the instructors pace. for some reason it feels like more. you will run around the soccer field, the SCC campus, and every now and then through the woods. You run cardiac hill once at the end of the academy and a final 5 mile run through the woods and through a river. your feet will feel as if they weigh 20 lbs. each when you get out. no sweat though it's almost like a fun day at that point and the ball busting is over. any more question feel free to ask .
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[remember]

just remember as they're messing with u how bad u want this job right now. how you'd do any type of p/t just to get thru. keep that in your mind.
everyone of us has done it,and most of us arent any better than u. dont give them the satisfaction of quitting.

[NYDIESEL]

Patrol2...thanks for the input.... i know the entrance requirements for the academy... but what are the exit requirements?
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[1212]

u must pass a dpf test 100%, 3 tests over 6 mths on the curriculum believe 80-75 minimum.the curriculum is the pl, vtl,cpl,some abc laws local ordinances, county policy, domestic procedures, sensitivity,biohazard, terrorism, jury/ trial testimony, car stops/ felony car stops, officer safety
qual at range 210 out of 300 divide 300 by 5 thats the amount of shots,plus shotgun. pass emt,+ state exam minimum 80?, qualify evoc driving 70% both road and class room, pass the weapon retention test, "nitestick" now known as asp test, plus the p/t for ur age category, again this is ballpark they will go thru it in depth when you're in .
sounds like a lot, not really just remember EVERYTHING they do is a test of some sort. you fail you'll be doing it over

[THE DUKE]

One last thing always show up in a suit if you go for any interviews.

And if you do make it into the academy a couple of things to consider :

Get your cars clean of all police pba cards, stickers, make sure the reg is not expired, inspection is up to date and the car is registered in NY. They will check it out and you don't want to be the one called in front of everyone and questioned about it.....

And get in shape now if you are close to getting called.. There are no 2nd chances, you fail the PT your out ..NO BS at the Suffolk academy

[Debbie4u]

how come you can't have PBA stickers, decals etc?
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[dont question it]

because they said so

[Watch and Wait]

Quote:..NO BS at the Suffolk academyThis is very true because everybody, including my 8 year old daughter, knows the BS in the Suffolk PD starts after you graduate.

[thanks for sharing]

well thats probably as close as anyone in your family gets to being a cop. dont worry im sure you have pull at walmart

[DummyDebbie4u]

But why can't I have PBA stickers on my car while I'm in the academy. But why can't I have a steady sector 2 months off of field training. But why do my co-workers hate me because I spend the tour hiding in the pct. wiggling my azz for the bosses, CC, Detectives and they have to handle my calls. Debbie has the makings of a soccer mom or a PTA president, not a cop.

[nor in your bank acount]

is debbie really for you or for me? does anyone actually want debbie, is that why she is for you, not me, maybe she can delta w/ debbie the cop and check under the xos desk for hearing devices, wink-wink

[ooops]

u must be so ugly and unattractive with the smallest d!ck on long island that you have so much time on your hands to attack and insult woman, geez no wonder why you have a hard time getting sum.
if this board didnt have so many immature loser men who act like 12 yo boys it would actually be great.

why would they take an abusive whack job like you if they did they would take anyone on this planet
your not the guy who made woman walk home naked that he really couldnt screw without harassing them?

[ok]

yeah, im the one they didnt catch, the other guy was in the paper, relax it was just a joke. and im kinda ok looking.

[brian4u]

I'm curious if a Debbie goes into the next class or two. Not very smart if that is your real name.

[Debbie go away]

relief point Annie. If you suckseed a bit more you may be qualified to be Monica to some academy boss.

[stay on topic]

keep this one to tips for the academy

[brian4u]

My last e-mail scared Debbie4u away

[NYPD]

starting pay is 60 for 1st six months, then it goes up?
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[Debbie4u]

thanks fellas
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[exnypd]

probably for the next class it will be close to 55-57 for the 1st 6

[Debbie4u]

is the class of 50 or 100 JUST scpd or will they have town and village other depts as well thrown in there?
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[no]

we're talking pay 60000
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[pacman]

You 138th?
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[Patrol 2]

THE ONE BEFORE. YOU?
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[pacman]

138th. I should have known that MS's speech is the same for every class. We had a recruit who had to wirte a 42 'cause he didn't know what stoic meant. Only at the SCPA! Be safe!
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[Patrol 2]

his first name begins with a T.
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[pacman]

You're right on the money
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[Patrol 2]

Does your first name begin with a P?
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[pacman]

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[NYconnect01]

What will you be reading out load in the beginning? Will anyone here be starting Nov. 1st?

[no biggie]

they give u a outline of the course, u'll all take turns reading it. when someone isnt loud enough u go in hallway and do pushups

[SCPD84]

What are the hours in the academy? Do they switch them up every week to get you use to different tours, or are they the same? Do you work holidays in the academy/weekends?
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[Patrol 2]

Did you live near T in C. and then move out east to M.
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[pacman]

Academy hours are 8-4 mon through fri. You will work holidays. Practice sitting against the wall as you will be doing this often on the drill floor. First couple of days are real bad, but you'll get used to it. All that cool stuff you got at the quartermaster the week before, you gonna have to sprint to your car when you carry it. Have fun.

Patrol 2 - Yep, you got me. I'm curious, is the 2 for the precinct or the squad?
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[new chart]

it might be 7-3 since our chart has changed, also you wont get out on time for the 1st month or so. you'll be there for an hour or 2 extra. they will find any reason to hold you, some we believe they made up, and punish you for a couple hours.
hang in there, remember every day down, closer to getting out of there

[doin the job]

Why don't you let the academy do it's job instead of trying to feel important while exposing their training!!!

[leather luster]

because i feel like it, whats the matter jealous because no one helped u

[doin the job]

Did not need it. I'm awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ok]

i bet u sucked a lot of butt in the academy,recruit suckup ''sir i have a question''

[Keepin it tru]

This is not a secure site, let the academy do it's job!

[Too Bad]

nope
again use leather luster do web search for it. remember anything you do is a test. have all your equipment in your locker, yes sir or m'am anyone you see. always be early by 20 minutes hair is 2 on the top 1 on the side, buzzer settings, cheaper to buy 1 at walmart/kmart, do ityourself, have a tape roll to remove lint from uniform, get a dry cleaning garment bag to carry it in, have someone in locker room with an iron, buzzer, shaving cream, razor. you will need within the 1st week beltkeepers, cup,mouthpiece, knee.elbowpads, around 70 bucks for p/t sweats, good running sneakers, 4 inch binders plain black pens
thats all for now

[GET REAL]

thnx for all the info, this stuff aint gonna get someone thru, im on the list, been a city cop for 3 years prior been in the service(got out just in time). knowing whats coming doesnt do much but take the suprise away, you still have to do it. the ones who are going to drop out are still going to drop out.
you're not ''exposing'' much here, not like they have some secret regimen. run, pushups, shoot, study,drive some cars, some b/s roll play where an instructor shoots you after dropping out of the ceiling, so you fail. maybe some wrasslin' but cant see them letting anyone get too banged up, dont want guys sitting home collecting paychecks for couple years while they're recruits.
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[heres a tip]

anytime the pba shows up hide in the head, they just looking for money, they cant even help you until you're off probation.
they usually come in 2-3 times, each time they hit u up for something

[pacman]

You know what is scary is that this guy might have a lucky saturday and make boss.
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[NYconnect]

What the 10 codes?

[alreadyotj]

I agree with all posted, but here's my imput.

"Things I would have liked to know prior to day 1:"

- Buy a big duffle bag, like in galls, to hold your riot helmet, uniform (blues), jackets, etc - everything they issue you has to be in your car ready to access at all times, and they do spot inspections to make sure u have it all. Get the bag, put everything in it, put it in your trunk, and leave it there
- BUY MORE THAN 1 SET OF PT's. They will inevitably get screwed up, dirty, the washing machine will break, etc. Have a spare set ready to go at home for the next day or if you ruin the first pair.
- Buy a set of sweats and shorts, you'll need them till you get the PT's. I think they want blue now (grey when I was in)
- Learn the 10-codes. NOW. The morning inspections will consist of a spot check on your knowledge of them every morning in the beginning. Start now, so it's less work later. (You can find them on the net, but make sure they are for SCPD) Also, the military phonetic alphabet ( IT IS NOT THE SAME AS NYPD. i.e., it's Delta, not David)
- Stay out of the sauna. It sounds stupid, but just trust me.
- Again, I know I'm like the 50th person to say it, DON'T EVER BE LATE
- Wear a suit the first day, but don't wear really good shoes. Wear presentable dress shoes, but make sure they're comfortable and that you won't cry when they get scuffed all to hell. You will be doing a lot of pushups in that suit.
- Nobody at the academy is your friend. Not just the instructors, buts also be careful what you say to classmates. You don't know who knows who.
- Blue pens do not exist. There is only black.
- On a 42 (you'll learn), always write in capital letters (the entire 42).
- A guy in my class got jammed up for an incident at a bar. Just stay out of them. It pretty much an automatic termination if something happens.
- Most of all, remember that it is temporary. You will make it, you just have to keep the right mindset. It IS just games, and we all went through it.

Good luck.

[OH MY GOD]

are out tsk,tsk

[Patrol 2]

WE ALL KNOW WHAT M.S. SAYS THRU THE WHOLE ACADEMY "NO SURPRISES" THEY TELL YOU EVERYTHING. THEY TELL YOU TO ALWAYS HAVE YOUR GEAR, THEY TELL YOU NOT TO BE LATE, THEY TELL YOU NOT TO GO TO BARS ETC. IT IS THEREFORE NOT A BIG DEAL IN MY OPINION TO MAKE THESE CANDIDATES FEEL A BIT MORE AT EASE NOW. "THE STAFF" WILL TELL THEM AGAIN THEMSELVES. VALID POINT I THINK.
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[APPLICANT]

Does anyone know what number they are up to? (from the last test)

How many people fail out of the academy?

[graduate]

usually 5 out of 100
thnx for deleting''bad cops'' thread

[never]

Quote:thnx for deleting''bad cops'' threadYeah, good work...cause EVERYONE, especially cops, know there is no such thing as a bad cop.

[200dot35]

no, never said that. believe it or not your stuff is beyond old. the thread was a dead end, as usual.next one should be;
'' why are some cops not nice sometimes''
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[fobus4life]

just think if they had a bad person other than cop thread....HAAH

[graduate]

even tptb see what a useless topic that was

[Topic]

So, for what reasons do they get dropped or drop out in the Academy?

[SCPD84]

This is a question for those of you that are already on the job. I am currently working a job that pays 67,000 a year. I would have to take a pay cut to join the SCPD. Both jobs top out at a comparable salary. However, my current job I have holidays and weekends off, work 730 to 330 every day, and a ton of vacation time. However, I will be working until I am about 60 instead of the 20 years retirement as a PO. But, it has also been my dream since a child to be a cop. Does anyone here recommend me taking the time off from work to go through the hiring process and possibly jeapordizing my current job. I know that the process is lenghthy and I will need to take a lot of time off. What would you do???
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[Already OTJ]

No offense, but if you have to come to a message board to ask if you should make some sacrifices to get on this job, then the answer is no....stay where you are. More than a few of my friends would give their right arm for this job and would make any sacrifice necessary. The hiring process is legnthy, thourough, time consuming and not easy. Good luck.

[Keep your]

Weekends, holidays and summers off. If you really want to fulfill your dreams of being on the job then get sponsored for the part time academy and working out East for the summer.

[SCPD84]

Already OTJ:
I am not coming to this message board looking for answers. I am just trying to weigh out all of my options. If I was a 21 year old kid working for $7.00 an hour somewhere, my choice would be simple. But I have a family and a career already and I want to make sure I make the right descision for the rest of my life! It is not like buying a car where I can test drive it. I will not know what being a cop is like until I get out there. That is why I am relying on people like you on this message board to provide me with info about the job. I know what my current job is like now, and I just do not want to make any mistakes that I would regret.
As far as people giving their right arm...you are right. There are like 20,000 people that took the test, about 18,000 of them will not get called. I happen to be fortunate enough that I scored high.
I know to you my situation is not a real dilemma, because I have a great job and the option for another...because there are those on this board praying to leave their $7.00 an hour jobs...but again, I just wanted as much info as possible so that I make the right life choices for myself and my family.
Thank you for you time and your postings!!!
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[Old Guy]

SCPD 84, Unfortunately, no one can tell you if you are the round peg that fits in the round hole. Only you can make the determination whether or not you will be able to endure the torture of academy life. But, that is only the very first, small step in a police career. If weekends, holidays, steady work hours are important to you and your family, then maybe your current job is the best fit for you. If the worst thing about your current job is a nasty paper cut, then walking down a dark hallway toward an emotionally disturbed person with a knife is not for you. Sure the 20 yr. retirement sounds great but very few people can retire at 44 yrs. of age and be set for life. Having done this for nearly 30 yrs. I must tell you there are tremendous sacrifices to your family life, life expectancy, physical and mental health that need to be considered. Don't get me wrong, this job can be the greatest, at times, but it takes a great toll on you. Just about everybody takes a pay cut to come on the job so don't think you alone are making such a great sacrifice. The pay catches up real soon and probably surpasses most jobs but if you think the money will make you like the job then stay with your present job. This job doesn't come with a safety net. You don't always get a second chance to get it right. If you're having second thoughts about taking the job, you're not alone,but don't stand in the doorway or you'll be run over by the many behind you that value the job as much as that right arm you alluded to.

[That Too]

Anyone that has such a name as SCPD & isn't even on the job should be psyched off immediately.

[Enough]

it isnt for u, kid. no offense, dont give up what u got now, and find it out the hard way. then you'll be out 2 good jobs.
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[Curious Joe]

More than a few of my friends would give their right arm for this job and would make any sacrifice necessary.

When I read comments like this I have to believe police work in Suffolk County is not nearly as demanding or dangerous as cops would like us to believe...especially around contract time.

I wonder how many of your friends would be willing to sacrifice their right arm or do anything necessary to become a Suffolk police officer if they were paid the same as NYC police?

[Already OTJ]

I'm sure that some people take this job for the $ alone, but the majority are here, because we enjoy what we do and looked foward to being here long before we actually made it....back when the pay wasn't too great. When I first took the test back in 1992, pay was roughly $50000 and I had the opprtunity to take another job doing what I went to college for and making almost double that, but I turned it down so that I could complete the hiring process for SCPD, because that is where I wanted to be. I also took all kinds of other police tests both in NY state (NYPD included) and as far away as LAPD. As far as danger on the job in Suffolk; no it's not like some of my friends in NYPD working in Brooklyn deal with, but due to our fine transportation systems and cars, the same scum that they deal with often finds their way out here...not to mention the scum that already is out here. Yes, most people are decent, but we don't have too many dealings with decent people, that's just the way it is. I've been here for 10 years and have dealt with shootings, legit gun runs, riots, car chases, foot chases, robberies, burglaries, gang activity, people on drugs/drinking that drive through a traffic post almost striking you if you dont get out of the way quick enough, psychoes on domestics, people barricaded with firearms and on and on. It's not the city, but dont get the misconception that you live in Mayberry, because you're on Long Island. I do however even after 10 years count myself extremely lucky to be out here, close to home doing what I enjoy doing.....and the $ is a nice bonus. Unfortunately in recent years people take this job for the $ alone and then find they don't enjoy the job. You know what they should have stayed a teacher, secretary, computer whiz, cable guy or whatever it was they did. This is a great job, but like they say from day 1 in the academy, "It's not for eveyone. Pack up and get out now!"

[we enjoy it]

its more than money,its good job, good coworkers.
you probably are just a pencil pusher, have no clue the fun this job is.people become cops because they enjoy the pursuits, roll arounds and all of that good stuff. people that sign up for the cash, will either end up quitting or hiding behind a desk, pushing papers around.

[off topic but a message f]

For Christ sake, I am one of the old dinosaurs and I have to tell you in the past five years this job went to hell. The kids coming on now except for maybe 2-3 or all little spoiled brats. It is quite obvious that they came on for the money when you talk to them. When I came on we were dirt poor, all of us had pickup trucks to work side jobs to pay for food, not BMW's and $50,000 SUV's. The whole attitude of the job changed, and the cops that are coming on now reflect that. I feel like a kid that got left back sometimes now that all my old timer friends have retired, I stay because I got my two girls in college. Years ago we had fun, we backed each other up and were not afraid to catch a few scratches. The stuff I see now scares the crap out of me. 24 year old cops whining because they have to work midnights and holidays! Sorry kid but get used to eating your thanksgiving dinner out of tupperware at the firehouse, and your little girlfriend will have to understand that you cant spend christmas week in her parents ski resort in vermont. You are now a police officer, and we HAVE to work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, etc. The dispatcher has to call a car a few times because no answers the radio, especially on the mids. You kids dont know how lucky you have it on the midnights- at least you get steady tours so your body can adjust to it! Back in my days we use to rotate, try working a midnight after you just worked a week of day tours! I see cops that are afraid of their own shadow out there- You will turn your head when you see the lexus with the dark tint, gold rims, and gang members throwing heineken bottles out the window but be the first to hammer the poor working stiff for an inspection because he doesn't pose a threat! Youre a cop for christ sake! You are suppose to be that fine line between the public and what the public fears! 90% of you guys look as if you are professional body builders having the luxury of spending all day at the gym- what the hell good do the muscles do you when I am rolling around on the floor and you are standing there shaking watching me get tossed around screaming in the radio and spraying mace in the wind? You guys all whine that the department is forcing all these regulations on you to write summonses, make arrests, and be oversupervised! Why? Because you need to be told to work! Years ago it would be unheard of to have a sergeant scream at us, find DWI's for us, or follow us around and hold our hand on every call. Years ago we didn't call for backup or wait for the dispatcher to tell us maybe we should go as a second unit on a gun call- we automatically knew to go!! And our Sergeants didn't micromanage us, they would get their hands dirty just like us, pick up alarms, start the MV104 Paperwork at a 10-10, and let us stay on our 18 while they answered our 10-72's (years ago it was a 10-17 alarm)- Oh yeah, we didnt have the luxury of making everything a 10-60 either! There was no 10-60, we even wrote field reports on commercial alarms. Yes, the good old days when cops were cops. A lot of you kids came on this job thinking it would be all cool like you see on TV, and all the money you would make, now that reality has hit you and you realize you don't like Police work but can't walk away from the money we end up with the mess we are in now. I have two years to go, and have stayed on well over my 20 but can't wait to go. Years ago we did the same job, a hell of a lot better and for 1/2 the pay and loved every minute of it!!

[must be a weak squad]

north shore pct.

[that explains it]

between 2 and 6?

[on the list]

ok i am a city cop ''on the list'' sounds to me like the north shore sucks, everyone is full of themselves, and the south shore is full of mutts.
i've also heard some areas north radio transmissions are so bad that you've got to landline to hq to advise of you're status, is that an exageration? how about the south shore?
also east vs west pcts, pros and cons other than the commute.
also a couple posts back, a wise guy mentioned danger in the suffolk job. out in suffolk, you ride single cars, imagine being in a scrum on the north shore and not being able to requewst backup? someones going in a bodybag, if thats me. remember every call is a gun call, we bring it. you should have a little more respect for your officers out there

[good questions]

yes radio transmissionis bad on north side, north of 25a to generalize. and yes everyone north of it has their head up their butt. south shore radios work fine as far as i nkow. east is verrrrrry spread out less population, for now anyway west is jam pack full of people.
as far as n/s the extreme n or s is peaceful, everything in between is pretty comparable. pick a pct based on your commute, where ever u end up you'll have an enjoyable career. if the bangers in crimedyanch are too much, you can always transfer to a calmer area, likewise if the mastoids or the deers are getting on your nerves, can always go west.

[re:old timer]

At least someone has the balls to say it! Now, get over it Old timer, you are half the problem. If it's such a big problem, guys with time on need to correct it. Who cares if the guy's uncle or daddy is a cheif? They should have taught their kid what it was about. And if they still go running to daddy, you guys need to address it, not by getting all fired up here, but grab him by the neck and kick his ass. Even if you only have 2 years left, you should try to help the other guys understand what the job is about. I bet you appreciated the kick in the butt when you where new, since it helped you in your career. If you leave problems un-checked, you will wind up with a job like us in the city have. And then you will have something to bitch about. I love to hear my friend who was a city guy tell me what whiners the guys are who did not work in the city. They have no idea how good they have it. Make them understand. I would do your job for my city pay, because there is less B.S. and only former city guys know what i mean. Not the guys that want a check, but never wanted to be a cop.

[Thank you]

dont forget there were people with non-le jobs out there who are now otj, in scpd and are very happy with it,believe it or not other jobs out there suck too, nypd dont have a patent on that.
otherwise i agree with you

[money for nothing]

old timer;
c'mon youre not comparing 1985 scpd to today. you had to write fields instead of 60? but no domestics,no computer crime, no 14 types of alarms,no id theft, no gangs.ive done over 100 cc a month for years now. i know for a fact back in your prime if u hit 50, you were overworked.
happy, this is ''the job'' period ask the thousands of nypds who took it.
nycpo it seems once a thread someone from the city has to post something here about how great we have it. how we cant complain because only the city job is bad. well ive talked to guys on in other jurisdictions and guess what, they also complain. maybe you should do something via teletype telling them all to stop, thats reserved only for u
then when the new class lets out the city guys who i fto are shocked at how busy we are. no im not comparing this to the city yet,but that will happen soon enough. but remember, the one robbery, burg a week we have wipes out half the pos working that day.remember we only have 20ish pos on the street

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[Agreed]

really it seems every nypd that posts here seems offended that we complain, yet almost everyone of them i meet, 1. i outwork, and 2. cry about their jobs, wives, commutes,neighbors, kids.
even better my sister works a detox ward in a hospital, nypd has a frequent flyer acct. there
then when they get on the job,ncpd or suffolk out here, they bring their crap attitude and negativeness, and extreme paranioa. i cant wait to see when these guys start making bosses, real ones not street bosses, what kind of crap we're in for.

[scpd patrol]

The SC Legislature is having a hearing loooking into putting up repeaters/ radio tower on the grounds of Northport VA Hospital. Hopefully, it will go through. The dice are being rolled by not doing something to fix that very dangerous problem.
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[on the list]

money for nothing
you're telling me between the 7 pcts covering suffolk 140ish total cops working? jeesh you should be complaining.
i know you use 2 cops on transports, prisoners or nutjobs, i cant imagine how u guys do it.

[NYconnect]

Thanks for high hijacking this thread. Anymore advise on the Academy?

[stoid]

1 cop transports his own prisoner 90 % of the time

[scpd patrol]

It is scary that at a given time there are approximately 250 officers on the street in Suffolk County. We have been very fortunate over the years that more of us have not been injured or killed. As it has been mentioned, it is getting more violent out here. Hopefully, the SC Leg. task force will properly address this and see that more officers are hired. Stay safe!
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[NYconnect]

on a good day,there are between 20-25 sectors, on some days there are extra cars between 1-4. then cope units,around 7, dare units or cope alpha units, crime control which are u/c pos, plus 4-6 bosses, all of this can change based on vacations, or holidays.
at nite there are significantly less pos.

[925]

yes i see some stuff as far as after academy, but please take this up on another thread

[925a]

You found it smart guy!!!


THIS IS THE ONLY THREAD ABOUT THE SCPA!!!!!

[925]

oh well i guess this threads a joke now

[recruit]

maybe that poster didnt make it clear, please post elsewhere if you just want to screw around leave these threads alone. if your that bored go volunteer somewhere

[925a]

THIS WHOLE REPORT MESSAGE BOARD IS A JOKE!!!!!

[recruit]

to u there is actually some excellent info for us, we just want to be where you are

[925a]

Good luck to you.

[SCPD1]

WHEN IS THE NEXT CLASS SUPPOSSED TO GO IN?

[Hello]

bump

[SCPD84]

SCPD 1:
From what I heard, the next class is suppose to go in to the academy in March of 2005. They are running through the hiring process for anyone who scored 95 or above on the test right now.
After that, the 92.5 group will be going in to the academy next fall supposedly.
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[unregistered 1]

How hard are the academics in the academy?
How much studying did you do outside of the academy?
How much PT is done everyday?
How many instructors are there and how nasty do they get?


LETS GET THIS THREAD GOING AGAIN PEOPLE!

[Answer]

?

[unregistered 5]

How much time is spend doing pt and how much in the classroom

[salty]

read thru this entire thread, and the other dedicated to scpd academy, plenty of info, if your still wondering ask more questions then. every topic you brought up is covered in here

[Name]

How much time is spend doing pt and how much in the classroom



This was never answered

[Rct]

P/T 3 times per week for about 2 hours each session. An hour meal, so the rest is classroom

[02140]

there are around 10 instructors. plus 2 sgts, 1 lt. you will rarely see them all, if u do, they're going to bust chops, unlike larger classes when its 1 instructor per hundred, and you can take off some pushups, they see much more.
in the beginning they all are pretty rough, except 1 guy who is involved with the union. as time passes they lighten up,but you got to play the game

[the game]

all except e.d.p.o. 4099
remember the word stoic
pronounce your name correctly
learn how to stand at attention
if you dont own a dog/ cat dont get 1 now til after you graduate(hair)

What does stoic mean? Wh ydo we need to know this?
What is edpo 4099?
I would hope I can pronounce my name correctly

[height]

Years ago there were hright requirements to be a PO...and females would have never dreamed about beinf a PO. But now with all this CIvil Rights BS and affirmative actions and lawsuits...we have to make everyone think they are equal....Lets all make the would a happy place and let everyone feel good about themselves What is all this...What ever happened to the best qualified gets the position. These are peoples lives we are talking about. people need to be protected by the best. Not to meet some quota to have a certain number of Fems or Blacks or Hispanics to make all of these liberal jerks out there happy. What is this world coming to?
Do not get me wrong, I have no problem with a female cop, as long as she has to pass the same PT as me to get into the academy. unfortunatley most of them get pushed through, even though people say they have to meet the same requirements once they get into the academy. People that have been in the SCPD academy know this. They are given special treatment! because we do not want to look biased by not hiring any. WAKE UP PEOPLE> WE ARE DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY!!! survival of the fittest...not everybody fee lhappy...YES..in life there must be winners and losers!

[NYconnect]

Why did you post this again about Height and Women?
Why are you so uneducated?
Why can't you even see that this post is for the Academy?
Why can't you use the spell check?

[hnb]

look up stoic in the dictionary you'll need the definition websters will do. you'll be quiz on this
when you are getting screamed at you might mispronounce your name
emotionally disturbed police officer badge 4099

[unregistered 1]

Any new info on the next class?!?!?!

[bump]

bump

4099 is the man

[POPO]

The academy is all a head game. They want to weed out the weak asap, so the beginning is ruff. They get alot of former law enforcement who think they know it all and are better than the unexperienced people, so the academy staff wants to break you down, and get everyone on the same level...so they can build you back up together (the way they want)


- Keep your mouth shut, speak only when spoken to
- Get used to being yelled at, dont take it personal
- Dont question anything, just do it
- You lower than dirt, you'll always be wrong (DEAL WITH IT)
- Uniform is very important (SHOES!!!)
- Mind your own business, do what your told
- Make sure you study/know your material

Always make sure your ahead of the game, be prepared. One you start to relax and get comfortable, thats when you get jammed up.

You'll all be fine, its only 6 months, 1st couple of weeks are the hardest. Play their game and win. Good luck to all.

perfectely said and come prepared don't be a deputy droop a long, practice your sit-ups, and push-ups and make sure you can run your mile and a half in the time you need.

perfectely said and come prepared don't be a deputy droop a long, practice your sit-ups, and push-ups and make sure you can run your mile and a half in the time you need.



Just a tip from a wife of a present academy recruit.........invest in a BIG bag to put all the equipment they are going to give you. I bought hubby a hockey bag from Sports Authority, serves its purpose. Best of luck to all of you going into next class.

just do as your told, and as for the hockey bag, what is he fat? you dont need that big of a bag

[quote="Anonymous"]just do as your told, and as for the hockey bag, what is he fat? you dont need that big of a bag[/quo


ummmm, no douche-bag, he isnt fat.......the bag serves its purpose, for the big, bulky equipment that isnt being used, and the equipment can stay in this in the car for when/if they are asked to show that they have it!!!!!!!!

[ppo02]

Maybe not as big as a hockey bag, but something that can hold alot of issued equipment. It is easier to have 1 bag with all the stuff so when in line up they give you like 8 min to get ALL issued equipment from your car & locker and have it all layed out in front of you on the drill floor. Just pray you have all your stuff!!!!!!!!!

Do not entertain any Deputy sheriff post's , soon they will be in alot of trouble for recent comments made here.

does your husband know who write about his well being?

What the hell does that mean? "Deputies are gonna be in a lot of trouble for what was posted here"?

Does anyone know the hours of the academy??? Do you work weekends/holidays in the academy's. Do they make you stay for overtime in the academy.

Also, are scpd hours still 5 on 2 off with hours of 7-3, 8-4, 3-11, 4-12, and the over night???

5 on 2 off, 5 on 3 off. academy is an 8-4 gig (approx) BE THERE EARLY, SLEEP IN THE PARKING LOT. dont count on o/t in the academy!!!!!! if your lucky, when youve been in the academy a while, they might need bodies for a detail (parades, big functions etc) and they might utilize academy bodies.

[gguest]

the scpd academy is straight 8x4 util the time you may have to go to the range for night shooting or some mother specific night training

[guest101aa]

There will be days when you stay past 4, but you will not receive any OT for that. The only holiday you will get off for will be christmas. When I went through, we worked half day on thanksgiving, off christmas, worked new years.

There will be days when you stay past 4, but you will not receive any OT for that. The only holiday you will get off for will be christmas. When I went through, we worked half day on thanksgiving, off christmas, worked new years.


Yea if Christmas falls on a weekend you will have it off. This academy was out on "holiday patrol" for Christmas so ya never know what can happen. Each academy regime can be different, never know.

[JUS LAUGHIN]

There will be days when you stay past 4, but you will not receive any OT for that. The only holiday you will get off for will be christmas. When I went through, we worked half day on thanksgiving, off christmas, worked new years.


Yea if Christmas falls on a weekend you will have it off. This academy was out on "holiday patrol" for Christmas so ya never know what can happen. Each academy regime can be different, never know.

PRETTY FUNNY HOW THIS HOLIDAY PATROL WAS SUPPOSED TO SAVE THE COUNTY $$$, BUT WOUND UP COSTING 10'S OF 1000'S IN OT. THANK YOU COUNTY EXEC....ANOTHER BRAINSTORM BACKFIRES.....NICE PRESS CONFERENCE THOUGH....BBWWAAAHAA!!

PRETTY FUNNY HOW THIS HOLIDAY PATROL WAS SUPPOSED TO SAVE THE COUNTY $$$, BUT WOUND UP COSTING 10'S OF 1000'S IN OT. THANK YOU COUNTY EXEC....ANOTHER BRAINSTORM BACKFIRES.....NICE PRESS CONFERENCE THOUGH....BBWWAAAHAA
Hey it was a great idea, lets put recruits in cars with police officers, and not let them anywhere near a actual 911 call, so what exactly did they do?? And not to mention handicapping the officer who cannot assist on a call because he doesnt want to violate this policy. I cant even say I heard the recruits transmit on the radio...not a knock on them, the recruits either, its the admin's fault.

[k19]

by the way they have been known to make you use a pl day for a holiday also...the academy is for the most part steady mon -fri even if theres a holiday

[ny6765443]

is scpd academy harder than nypd

no

Great tips fellas
how many miles do you run in a typical workout? how many days of the week do you do PT normally? I suck dick.
thanks

There will be days when you stay past 4, but you will not receive any OT for that. The only holiday you will get off for will be christmas. When I went through, we worked half day on thanksgiving, off christmas, worked new years.

getting held is not likely, its in the union contract. they dont want to pay ot to the recruits.

[guest 777]

There will be days when you stay past 4, but you will not receive any OT for that. The only holiday you will get off for will be christmas. When I went through, we worked half day on thanksgiving, off christmas, worked new years.

getting held is not likely, its in the union contract. they dont want to pay ot to the recruits. Anyone know if there is going to be a knew class in 2007.One or two classes of how many? Maybe the rest of the 92.5s.

county wants 75 hires, Levy wants 50.

[guest 878]

county wants 75 hires, Levy wants 50.Anyone know the amount approved by LEVY and the legislature?

[Former Academy Instructor]

Keep your mouth shut. NEVER be late. Good appearance.

Get into good physical shape. Study for your DPF exam and if you were a city cop from the "real" job do NOT infect the recruits with city nonsense and childish war stories!!!


u must pass a dpf test 100%, 3 tests over 6 mths on the curriculum believe 80-75 minimum.the curriculum is the pl, vtl,cpl,some abc laws local ordinances, county policy, domestic procedures, sensitivity,biohazard, terrorism, jury/ trial testimony, car stops/ felony car stops, officer safety
qual at range 210 out of 300 divide 300 by 5 thats the amount of shots,plus shotgun. pass emt,+ state exam minimum 80?, qualify evoc driving 70% both road and class room, pass the weapon retention test, "nitestick" now known as asp test, plus the p/t for ur age category, again this is ballpark they will go thru it in depth when you're in .
sounds like a lot, not really just remember EVERYTHING they do is a test of some sort. you fail you'll be doing it over

[RETIRED OLD TIMER]

I couldn't have said it better. I really enjoyed the job for over 31 years and at times it was even fun. Too bad I got old. :-(

For Christ sake, I am one of the old dinosaurs and I have to tell you in the past five years this job went to hell. The kids coming on now except for maybe 2-3 or all little spoiled brats. It is quite obvious that they came on for the money when you talk to them. When I came on we were dirt poor, all of us had pickup trucks to work side jobs to pay for food, not BMW's and $50,000 SUV's. The whole attitude of the job changed, and the cops that are coming on now reflect that. I feel like a kid that got left back sometimes now that all my old timer friends have retired, I stay because I got my two girls in college. Years ago we had fun, we backed each other up and were not afraid to catch a few scratches. The stuff I see now scares the crap out of me. 24 year old cops whining because they have to work midnights and holidays! Sorry kid but get used to eating your thanksgiving dinner out of tupperware at the firehouse, and your little girlfriend will have to understand that you cant spend christmas week in her parents ski resort in vermont. You are now a police officer, and we HAVE to work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, etc. The dispatcher has to call a car a few times because no answers the radio, especially on the mids. You kids dont know how lucky you have it on the midnights- at least you get steady tours so your body can adjust to it! Back in my days we use to rotate, try working a midnight after you just worked a week of day tours! I see cops that are afraid of their own shadow out there- You will turn your head when you see the lexus with the dark tint, gold rims, and gang members throwing heineken bottles out the window but be the first to hammer the poor working stiff for an inspection because he doesn't pose a threat! Youre a cop for christ sake! You are suppose to be that fine line between the public and what the public fears! 90% of you guys look as if you are professional body builders having the luxury of spending all day at the gym- what the hell good do the muscles do you when I am rolling around on the floor and you are standing there shaking watching me get tossed around screaming in the radio and spraying mace in the wind? You guys all whine that the department is forcing all these regulations on you to write summonses, make arrests, and be oversupervised! Why? Because you need to be told to work! Years ago it would be unheard of to have a sergeant scream at us, find DWI's for us, or follow us around and hold our hand on every call. Years ago we didn't call for backup or wait for the dispatcher to tell us maybe we should go as a second unit on a gun call- we automatically knew to go!! And our Sergeants didn't micromanage us, they would get their hands dirty just like us, pick up alarms, start the MV104 Paperwork at a 10-10, and let us stay on our 18 while they answered our 10-72's (years ago it was a 10-17 alarm)- Oh yeah, we didnt have the luxury of making everything a 10-60 either! There was no 10-60, we even wrote field reports on commercial alarms. Yes, the good old days when cops were cops. A lot of you kids came on this job thinking it would be all cool like you see on TV, and all the money you would make, now that reality has hit you and you realize you don't like Police work but can't walk away from the money we end up with the mess we are in now. I have two years to go, and have stayed on well over my 20 but can't wait to go. Years ago we did the same job, a hell of a lot better and for 1/2 the pay and loved every minute of it!!

I couldn't have said it better. I really enjoyed the job for over 31 years and at times it was even fun. Too bad I got old. :-(

For Christ sake, I am one of the old dinosaurs and I have to tell you in the past five years this job went to hell. The kids coming on now except for maybe 2-3 or all little spoiled brats. It is quite obvious that they came on for the money when you talk to them. When I came on we were dirt poor, all of us had pickup trucks to work side jobs to pay for food, not BMW's and $50,000 SUV's. The whole attitude of the job changed, and the cops that are coming on now reflect that. I feel like a kid that got left back sometimes now that all my old timer friends have retired, I stay because I got my two girls in college. Years ago we had fun, we backed each other up and were not afraid to catch a few scratches. The stuff I see now scares the crap out of me. 24 year old cops whining because they have to work midnights and holidays! Sorry kid but get used to eating your thanksgiving dinner out of tupperware at the firehouse, and your little girlfriend will have to understand that you cant spend christmas week in her parents ski resort in vermont. You are now a police officer, and we HAVE to work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, etc. The dispatcher has to call a car a few times because no answers the radio, especially on the mids. You kids dont know how lucky you have it on the midnights- at least you get steady tours so your body can adjust to it! Back in my days we use to rotate, try working a midnight after you just worked a week of day tours! I see cops that are afraid of their own shadow out there- You will turn your head when you see the lexus with the dark tint, gold rims, and gang members throwing heineken bottles out the window but be the first to hammer the poor working stiff for an inspection because he doesn't pose a threat! Youre a cop for christ sake! You are suppose to be that fine line between the public and what the public fears! 90% of you guys look as if you are professional body builders having the luxury of spending all day at the gym- what the hell good do the muscles do you when I am rolling around on the floor and you are standing there shaking watching me get tossed around screaming in the radio and spraying mace in the wind? You guys all whine that the department is forcing all these regulations on you to write summonses, make arrests, and be oversupervised! Why? Because you need to be told to work! Years ago it would be unheard of to have a sergeant scream at us, find DWI's for us, or follow us around and hold our hand on every call. Years ago we didn't call for backup or wait for the dispatcher to tell us maybe we should go as a second unit on a gun call- we automatically knew to go!! And our Sergeants didn't micromanage us, they would get their hands dirty just like us, pick up alarms, start the MV104 Paperwork at a 10-10, and let us stay on our 18 while they answered our 10-72's (years ago it was a 10-17 alarm)- Oh yeah, we didnt have the luxury of making everything a 10-60 either! There was no 10-60, we even wrote field reports on commercial alarms. Yes, the good old days when cops were cops. A lot of you kids came on this job thinking it would be all cool like you see on TV, and all the money you would make, now that reality has hit you and you realize you don't like Police work but can't walk away from the money we end up with the mess we are in now. I have two years to go, and have stayed on well over my 20 but can't wait to go. Years ago we did the same job, a hell of a lot better and for 1/2 the pay and loved every minute of it!!
yeah you also didnt have domestics, they were 17s as well, dwi files, now they are impounding unlicensed and agg unlicensed, 14 different alarms, when I came on 70 calls a month was a big month, now there are sectors that double that. There are cops that have more committals a month then most of you had calls. The paperwork has tripled You "old timers" dont even know,

[GUEST699]

I couldn't have said it better. I really enjoyed the job for over 31 years and at times it was even fun. Too bad I got old. :-(

For Christ sake, I am one of the old dinosaurs and I have to tell you in the past five years this job went to hell. The kids coming on now except for maybe 2-3 or all little spoiled brats. It is quite obvious that they came on for the money when you talk to them. When I came on we were dirt poor, all of us had pickup trucks to work side jobs to pay for food, not BMW's and $50,000 SUV's. The whole attitude of the job changed, and the cops that are coming on now reflect that. I feel like a kid that got left back sometimes now that all my old timer friends have retired, I stay because I got my two girls in college. Years ago we had fun, we backed each other up and were not afraid to catch a few scratches. The stuff I see now scares the crap out of me. 24 year old cops whining because they have to work midnights and holidays! Sorry kid but get used to eating your thanksgiving dinner out of tupperware at the firehouse, and your little girlfriend will have to understand that you cant spend christmas week in her parents ski resort in vermont. You are now a police officer, and we HAVE to work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, etc. The dispatcher has to call a car a few times because no answers the radio, especially on the mids. You kids dont know how lucky you have it on the midnights- at least you get steady tours so your body can adjust to it! Back in my days we use to rotate, try working a midnight after you just worked a week of day tours! I see cops that are afraid of their own shadow out there- You will turn your head when you see the lexus with the dark tint, gold rims, and gang members throwing heineken bottles out the window but be the first to hammer the poor working stiff for an inspection because he doesn't pose a threat! Youre a cop for christ sake! You are suppose to be that fine line between the public and what the public fears! 90% of you guys look as if you are professional body builders having the luxury of spending all day at the gym- what the hell good do the muscles do you when I am rolling around on the floor and you are standing there shaking watching me get tossed around screaming in the radio and spraying mace in the wind? You guys all whine that the department is forcing all these regulations on you to write summonses, make arrests, and be oversupervised! Why? Because you need to be told to work! Years ago it would be unheard of to have a sergeant scream at us, find DWI's for us, or follow us around and hold our hand on every call. Years ago we didn't call for backup or wait for the dispatcher to tell us maybe we should go as a second unit on a gun call- we automatically knew to go!! And our Sergeants didn't micromanage us, they would get their hands dirty just like us, pick up alarms, start the MV104 Paperwork at a 10-10, and let us stay on our 18 while they answered our 10-72's (years ago it was a 10-17 alarm)- Oh yeah, we didnt have the luxury of making everything a 10-60 either! There was no 10-60, we even wrote field reports on commercial alarms. Yes, the good old days when cops were cops. A lot of you kids came on this job thinking it would be all cool like you see on TV, and all the money you would make, now that reality has hit you and you realize you don't like Police work but can't walk away from the money we end up with the mess we are in now. I have two years to go, and have stayed on well over my 20 but can't wait to go. Years ago we did the same job, a hell of a lot better and for 1/2 the pay and loved every minute of it!!
yeah you also didnt have domestics, they were 17s as well, dwi files, now they are impounding unlicensed and agg unlicensed, 14 different alarms, when I came on 70 calls a month was a big month, now there are sectors that double that. There are cops that have more committals a month then most of you had calls. The paperwork has tripled You "old timers" dont even know,
Old timer hit it right on the head. Again-hear is another kid with a couple of years whining about the work load. How can u compare the workload to "Old Timer's" ? and don't forget.....you're being paid 10x what they made back then. I have 13 yrs on and I've seen a big difference in recruit quality over the past 10 years. Don't get me wrong...I'm greatful for the $$, but I love the job and wouldbe here anyway. I just think it's a double edged sword.

yeah you also didnt have domestics, they were 17s as well, dwi files, now they are impounding unlicensed and agg unlicensed, 14 different alarms, when I came on 70 calls a month was a big month, now there are sectors that double that. There are cops that have more committals a month then most of you had calls. The paperwork has tripled You "old timers" dont even know,
Old timer hit it right on the head. Again-hear is another kid with a couple of years whining about the work load. How can u compare the workload to "Old Timer's" ? and don't forget.....you're being paid 10x what they made back then. I have 13 yrs on and I've seen a big difference in recruit quality over the past 10 years. Don't get me wrong...I'm greatful for the $$, but I love the job and wouldbe here anyway. I just think it's a double edged sword.



[/quote]
Amazing 13 years on 46-800 ish tin calling me 4000 tin a "kid"...I remember being encouraged to apply for food stamps in the academy.
The # of calls and the amount of paperwork has increased with the population. When I move out here we still had dirt roads. You could drive from Happauge to PJS in 15 minutes. How many farms and empty plots have become multiple family dwellings? How many old age homes? Any "old timer" whining how good we have it dont know what they are talking about. The money is good, so what? You could by a home for a little more than you annual salary out here, now you have to work o/t to come close to the 400-600k for a good home. I've watched the old timers leave and be replaced by the new blood. There were a$$holes then and good guys, likewise now. I dont know what world you lived in, but there were plenty of nasty salty m/fs with 1100 tins that couldnt be bothered talking to anyone. Or miserable whiny slugs. Others were fine after they hit the sauce, or whatever. Stop dreaming of the good ole days. If you are in patrol, its a different world.

Y'know what I'm one of those"newjacks"...I'm not at all offended when I hear this, My dad used to say the same things, of course he never dealt with crack, domestics, orders of protection, etc etc etc... but I listen to his stories, and how I'll never be the cop he was, and the handful of arrests he had, when I tell him I'm over 20 bodies for the year, he says quality not quantity, then tell me how he locked someone up once for a assault.
I'm sure if my kid gets on I'll treat him the same, keep him humble.

Have some respect for the poeple who've served before you, like I do.

This board makes me sick. If any former po's are reading this crap, I apoligize for them. I don't even think most of these people are in LE.

It's not about arrests, stats, my sector is busier than your sector baby bs.

If these people posting are in fact po's, they haven't figured out what being
a police officer (which includes deputies, park police, troopers, etc) is all about.

Have some respect for the poeple who've served before you, like I do.

This board makes me sick. If any former po's are reading this crap, I apoligize for them. I don't even think most of these people are in LE.

It's not about arrests, stats, my sector is busier than your sector baby bs.

If these people posting are in fact po's, they haven't figured out what being
a police officer (which includes deputies, park police, troopers, etc) is all about.
yeah but you know what? the job is different and a lot harder now. alot of what is said about the job is true, on both sides, but it is a different job. we have all the urban blight that small cities do, and the amount of work is increasing daily. ask the guys from hq that have been bounced from their teet.
my neighbor retired about 15 years ago from a detective job in the 4th, we have this conversation all the time. he hadnt worked in patrol since around 1980. when i showed him my calls and the volume of work i've done for the last 7 years out of 13 he was floored. he finally admitted how much the job has picked up.
alot of what the old timers say is true, the gentlemans handshake days are overwith. the influx of outside agencies and the demand for more with less has patrol strecthed very thin.
I have respect for the p.o.s that have come before me, and I bend over backwards for them, i carry a list of their addresses in my sector, and they all have my cell#. I know when the y take their vacations and pass + check their homes daily.
I think the former po's who are posting here bashing the job, or the young guys forget what its like to be a rookie, or they have lost respect for our job.
the job is bigger then us or them, dont knock it, its up to all of us, retired, veterans and new jacks to keep it respected.

Amen respect the job, no cop former or present should make derogatory remarks about any other cop, especially on a public forum. The job has changed and the good cops from the prior generations probably would be good cops today. And vice versa

Amen respect the job, no cop former or present should make derogatory remarks about any other cop, especially on a public forum. The job has changed and the good cops from the prior generations probably would be good cops today. And vice versa

You re right there are cops today in it for the money. Years ago there were cruddy cops too, they didnt make as much, so why were they in it?

If you're going to live and raise a family on Long Island you better be in something for the money. Years ago we had cops who couldn't get a job doing anything else. Today the competition for the job is fierce. Highly educated applicants and applicants who give up careers in other professions. Desiring a career in law enforcement and a good income are not mutually exclusive.

Have some respect for the poeple who've served before you, like I do.

This board makes me sick. If any former po's are reading this crap, I apoligize for them. I don't even think most of these people are in LE.

It's not about arrests, stats, my sector is busier than your sector baby bs.

If these people posting are in fact po's, they haven't figured out what being
a police officer (which includes deputies, park police, troopers, etc) is all about.
yeah but you know what? the job is different and a lot harder now. alot of what is said about the job is true, on both sides, but it is a different job. we have all the urban blight that small cities do, and the amount of work is increasing daily. ask the guys from hq that have been bounced from their teet.
my neighbor retired about 15 years ago from a detective job in the 4th, we have this conversation all the time. he hadnt worked in patrol since around 1980. when i showed him my calls and the volume of work i've done for the last 7 years out of 13 he was floored. he finally admitted how much the job has picked up.
alot of what the old timers say is true, the gentlemans handshake days are overwith. the influx of outside agencies and the demand for more with less has patrol strecthed very thin.
I have respect for the p.o.s that have come before me, and I bend over backwards for them, i carry a list of their addresses in my sector, and they all have my cell#. I know when the y take their vacations and pass + check their homes daily.
I think the former po's who are posting here bashing the job, or the young guys forget what its like to be a rookie, or they have lost respect for our job.
the job is bigger then us or them, dont knock it, its up to all of us, retired, veterans and new jacks to keep it respected.

All I'm saying is don't play down what former po's have done in the past. EVERYONE put their life on the line, not just the "cops of today". I def think people are more crazy today, but they had plenty of problems back in the day.

They had alot more fires back in the 70's and 80's than they do today, does that mean that a FF back in the day was more of a firefighter than the ones today?

There shouldn't be any comparisons between now and then. Society as a whole has gone down the toilet. I think everyone would agree with that. All who serve now and those before us do a thankless job. God bless all.

[guest 12345]

There shouldn't be any comparisons between now and then. Society as a whole has gone down the toilet. I think everyone would agree with that. All who serve now and those before us do a thankless job. God bless all.I could not of said it better myself.

All I'm saying is don't play down what former po's have done in the past. EVERYONE put their life on the line, not just the "cops of today". I def think people are more crazy today, but they had plenty of problems back in the day.

This whole issue started with someone claimin g to be a retired po making derogatory remarks about the job and the pos today. At that point several posters commented on how much more is expected from them, and how much more work there is to do. Of course it became a respect your elders issue, the easy fall back. You cannot argue the changes in the dept, the job and society over the years. Then someone posts about more to being a cop than call volume,arrests, and other stats....funny the original post details how differently calls and arrests were handled "back in the day", but of course we arent supposed to mention that in our defense.
No one should make blanket statements about a entire job. I seriously doubt the original poster For Christ sake, I am one of the old dinosaurs and I have to tell you in the past five years this job went to hell. The kids coming on now except for maybe 2-3 or all little spoiled brats. It is quite obvious that they came on for the money when you talk to them. . The whole attitude of the job changed, and the cops that are coming on now reflect that met everyone on the job. Elder po or not that is dissrespectful to the p.o.s currently working and serving HIM. If the poster is a retired po he shouldnt be whining here about how the kids today are spoiled 24 year old cops whining because they have to work midnights and holidays! Sorry kid but get used to eating your thanksgiving dinner out of tupperware at the firehouse I was taught if I had a gripe with another cop to go and talk to him, not go to a supervisor, talk behind his back, and certainly not post it on a public forum like this.

[dont feedthe trolls(jeff)]

off topic but a message f wrote:
For Christ sake, I am one of the old dinosaurs and I have to tell you in the past five years this job went to hell. The kids coming on now except for maybe 2-3 or all little spoiled brats. It is quite obvious that they came on for the money when you talk to them. When I came on we were dirt poor, all of us had pickup trucks to work side jobs to pay for food, not BMW's and $50,000 SUV's. The whole attitude of the job changed, and the cops that are coming on now reflect that. I feel like a kid that got left back sometimes now that all my old timer friends have retired, I stay because I got my two girls in college. Years ago we had fun, we backed each other up and were not afraid to catch a few scratches. The stuff I see now scares the crap out of me. 24 year old cops whining because they have to work midnights and holidays! Sorry kid but get used to eating your thanksgiving dinner out of tupperware at the firehouse, and your little girlfriend will have to understand that you cant spend christmas week in her parents ski resort in vermont. You are now a police officer, and we HAVE to work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, etc. The dispatcher has to call a car a few times because no answers the radio, especially on the mids. You kids dont know how lucky you have it on the midnights- at least you get steady tours so your body can adjust to it! Back in my days we use to rotate, try working a midnight after you just worked a week of day tours! I see cops that are afraid of their own shadow out there- You will turn your head when you see the lexus with the dark tint, gold rims, and gang members throwing heineken bottles out the window but be the first to hammer the poor working stiff for an inspection because he doesn't pose a threat! Youre a cop for christ sake! You are suppose to be that fine line between the public and what the public fears! 90% of you guys look as if you are professional body builders having the luxury of spending all day at the gym- what the hell good do the muscles do you when I am rolling around on the floor and you are standing there shaking watching me get tossed around screaming in the radio and spraying mace in the wind? You guys all whine that the department is forcing all these regulations on you to write summonses, make arrests, and be oversupervised! Why? Because you need to be told to work! Years ago it would be unheard of to have a sergeant scream at us, find DWI's for us, or follow us around and hold our hand on every call. Years ago we didn't call for backup or wait for the dispatcher to tell us maybe we should go as a second unit on a gun call- we automatically knew to go!! And our Sergeants didn't micromanage us, they would get their hands dirty just like us, pick up alarms, start the MV104 Paperwork at a 10-10, and let us stay on our 18 while they answered our 10-72's (years ago it was a 10-17 alarm)- Oh yeah, we didnt have the luxury of making everything a 10-60 either! There was no 10-60, we even wrote field reports on commercial alarms. Yes, the good old days when cops were cops. A lot of you kids came on this job thinking it would be all cool like you see on TV, and all the money you would make, now that reality has hit you and you realize you don't like Police work but can't walk away from the money we end up with the mess we are in now. I have two years to go, and have stayed on well over my 20 but can't wait to go. Years ago we did the same job, a hell of a lot better and for 1/2 the pay and loved every minute of it!! [i]</i

This was posted here 3 years ago, whoever reposted it did so to stir up shoot, stop feeding the trolls

Does anyone know how long the process really takes? I just figured I would check this site out to get an idea but im not sure. From what I read there are a lot of people that think there are people that are in it for just the money and I think your right. The money is probably part of it but if you truely want to be on the job it has to be in your heart no matter what the paycheck is like. I know I probably dont have the right to even write on this site but I do want the job regardless if it was for $60000 or $16000 per year!! I'm currently federal LE in Staten Island and my EOE is up in July. I signed up for June hope I can get some info so I can manage my finances with another job. Thats of course if I am one of the 2 percent that get on the job. Thanks in advance for any info

Get above a 90, keep your nose clean and be in shape.

[guest123456789]

Get above a 90, keep your nose clean and be in shape.Getting a90 is not good enough.I am still waiting with a 92.5.

all 92.5's are getting called for the fall 07 class

[92.5 and waiting]

all 92.5's are getting called for the fall 07 classHow do you know thier all getting called.

[2003test92.5er]

A few questions:
1) Honestly, how hard is the academy?
2) How much of the daily routine is PT
3) How much of the daily routine is classroom
4) How much work do you have to do at home for studying
5) What time is the academy? Are the hours ever irregular in the acedmy?
6) Do you work weekends and holidays in the academy (and before I get critisized, I know i will have to do it when I am on the street, I was just wondering if they close the academy for the holidays...I havve no problem with being there for those days!!!)
7) What is the first day/week like?
8) How much running do you do at once?/per day?
9) How many situps do you do at once?
10) How many push ups do you do at once?
11) What other PT do you have to do.

Thanks for the help, I just want to be as physically and mentally prepared to go in!!!

[Ant]

You are going to work weekends and holidays on the street.
Why worry about it in the academy.
Get use to it!!!!

[guest 123]

A few questions:
1) Honestly, how hard is the academy?
2) How much of the daily routine is PT
3) How much of the daily routine is classroom
4) How much work do you have to do at home for studying
5) What time is the academy? Are the hours ever irregular in the acedmy?
6) Do you work weekends and holidays in the academy (and before I get critisized, I know i will have to do it when I am on the street, I was just wondering if they close the academy for the holidays...I havve no problem with being there for those days!!!)
7) What is the first day/week like?
8) How much running do you do at once?/per day?
9) How many situps do you do at once?
10) How many push ups do you do at once?
11) What other PT do you have to do.

Thanks for the help, I just want to be as physically and mentally prepared to go in!!!I went through it not to long ago.THe academy is tough but put your mind to and youy seem you want it bad enough you will be fine.First day you introduce yourself and they make you read out loud.You run about 2 miles at a time if that,they concentrate on the 1.5 run to graduate.Do about 15-20 push-ups and sit-ups and same for jumping jacks.You also do weight training ,kind of circuit training...Hope this helps Good luck .I am also waiting with a 92.5 I HOPE WE ALL GET CALLED.LET ME KNOW IF YOU HERE ANYTHING...................THANKS................. ...

[2003test92.5er]

If you don't mind me asking, if you went through it, why are you waiting with a 92.5???

If you don't mind me asking, if you went through it, why are you waiting with a 92.5???



i will give you a fwe reasons he is still waiting.....could be a dep or park police or even a town cop that wants to be a suffolk cop.

[GUEST 123]

[quote="2003test92.5er"]If you don't mind me asking, if you went through it, why are you waiting with a 92.5???[/quot JUST GIVING YOU HEADS UP I WENT THROUGH FOR A VILLAGE.I hope this info. helps..

[2003test92.5er]

Thanks for the response! So you are in a village now? Is the county job that much better than a village? I sent a ltter back to Llyod Harbor. I know the chances of getting that are slim, but should I hold out for county? If they send me a ltter for an interview now, can I decline it without jeopardizing my county offer?

[guest 123]

Thanks for the response! So you are in a village now? Is the county job that much better than a village? I sent a ltter back to Llyod Harbor. I know the chances of getting that are slim, but should I hold out for county? If they send me a ltter for an interview now, can I decline it without jeopardizing my county offer?You can go for the interview,but if they like you and you start the process and you fail someting you are off the list. Me personally I would hold out for the county.Towns and villages are good but less room for advancement.Most depts. are small maybe 10 officers.Pay is less sometimes not much difference.Good luck in what ever you do.I think and from what I hear Jan. 92.5s all start the process.

Is this next class going to be only police recruits or are there going to be deputy recruits going in as well?

[2003test92.5er]

Thanks for the info. Hopefully it starts for us soon!!!

[2003test92.5er]

Happy New Year all!!! Hope 2007 brings us into the academy :D

[guest 123]

Happy New Year all!!! Hope 2007 brings us into the academy :DWhats up bro. I hope you are right about 07.Happy New Year you and your family.I think you will do fine through the process.You seem like you got it together from what I see on this post.Happy and healthy New Year see you in the academy.................

[guest 567]

Is this next class going to be only police recruits or are there going to be deputy recruits going in as well?I heard they have not hired anyone off that deputiy sheriffs list.

[glock40cal]

If anyone is wondering, first day of academy wait in car until directed. DO NOT GET OUT. Practice your situps, pushups and run prior to attending. They don't make you do a ton in one set but by the end of the day you've done a few hundred. The runs arent dreadful, mile or 2 then cals back to another mile or 2 and cals. Don't let anyone fool you either give 100% on pt tests, you will be recognized for effort. Make sure you have shower shoes because you'll be showering there at LEAST 3 times a week and the floors are pretty gross. If possible study all their 10 codes prior to attending academy and you'll 100% be up on everything. If issued dress shoes make sure their spit shinned because you'll spend many many many hours your first night doing them so if they are done prior youll get a few hours of sleep. For the spit shine give the whole shoe a nice coat but make sure the tips are real shinny or you will be writing. Always come prepared, if your not you'll pay for it and they will catch you.

[Uhuhyy]

If anyone is wondering, first day of academy wait in car until directed. DO NOT GET OUT. Practice your situps, pushups and run prior to attending. They don't make you do a ton in one set but by the end of the day you've done a few hundred. The runs arent dreadful, mile or 2 then cals back to another mile or 2 and cals. Don't let anyone fool you either give 100% on pt tests, you will be recognized for effort. Make sure you have shower shoes because you'll be showering there at LEAST 3 times a week and the floors are pretty gross. If possible study all their 10 codes prior to attending academy and you'll 100% be up on everything. If issued dress shoes make sure their spit shinned because you'll spend many many many hours your first night doing them so if they are done prior youll get a few hours of sleep. For the spit shine give the whole shoe a nice coat but make sure the tips are real shinny or you will be writing. Always come prepared, if your not you'll pay for it and they will catch you.

Duh

[Unregistered503]

Its a shame but the only people who can count on goin in this class are dormers pieceofshit kids. Thats the only reason this class is happenin. Sorry for u if they have to go through u in order to shoehorn in scumbags like that

[Unregistered10-09finger]

Some of he ten codes chaged several months ago & I'm still not sure what they mean.

[Unregistered1234]

I came on along time ago , there was only 50 in a class , so the counselors got to know everyone !!!!. Bottom line by the time you finally get hired and start the academy you should be in great shape physically , and you really should have your shit together . look the way I look at it you just won lotto , 30,000 took the test only several hundred get hired count your self lucky .

And you know what if you can't take counselors yelling at you or the rigors of Academy training or the PT then you shouldn't be a cop.
The counselors have a multifaceted job first and foremost is to make you a cop especially if you have no prior time , if you have prior time then make you a Suffolk Cop. Another part of their job is weed out the people who do not belong in the police service for whatever reason.

Bottom line keep your mouth shut study your academics come in tip top shape keep up your equipment and appearance you will do fine. They want you to pass , SCPD needs good cops .

[Unregistered4444]

Great Info. Do you know when the next class is? I received a 95 on the 2007 test and my name was called in the lottery but I have not be called to take the fitness test yet.


I came on along time ago , there was only 50 in a class , so the counselors got to know everyone !!!!. Bottom line by the time you finally get hired and start the academy you should be in great shape physically , and you really should have your shit together . look the way I look at it you just won lotto , 30,000 took the test only several hundred get hired count your self lucky .

And you know what if you can't take counselors yelling at you or the rigors of Academy training or the PT then you shouldn't be a cop.
The counselors have a multifaceted job first and foremost is to make you a cop especially if you have no prior time , if you have prior time then make you a Suffolk Cop. Another part of their job is weed out the people who do not belong in the police service for whatever reason.

Bottom line keep your mouth shut study your academics come in tip top shape keep up your equipment and appearance you will do fine. They want you to pass , SCPD needs good cops .

[Unregistered289]

I thought the old list expires once a new test is announced (only good for 2 or 3 years or so)? Did you sign up to take the test again?

[Unregisteredretired]

I thought the old list expires once a new test is announced (only good for 2 or 3 years or so)? Did you sign up to take the test again?

The old list expires when the new list is certified.

[Unregistered1234]

Great Info. Do you know when the next class is? I received a 95 on the 2007 test and my name was called in the lottery but I have not be called to take the fitness test yet.

To be honest I cant say , with the upheaval of Levy's BS who knows , just keep your fingers crossed , and hopefully you get the call , just in case I hope you applied to take the next test coming up in June

Despite the bitching you read , Its a great job , the money is great the conditions while yes could be better are till not terrible , The people you will work with and for for the most part are aces .

And Every Police Dept Nationwide is going thru what SCPD is going thru some alot worse.

Good Luck you will be very happy if you get the job trust me

[UnregisteredKL]

I came on along time ago , there was only 50 in a class , so the counselors got to know everyone !!!!. Bottom line by the time you finally get hired and start the academy you should be in great shape physically , and you really should have your shit together . look the way I look at it you just won lotto , 30,000 took the test only several hundred get hired count your self lucky .

And you know what if you can't take counselors yelling at you or the rigors of Academy training or the PT then you shouldn't be a cop.
The counselors have a multifaceted job first and foremost is to make you a cop especially if you have no prior time , if you have prior time then make you a Suffolk Cop. Another part of their job is weed out the people who do not belong in the police service for whatever reason.

Bottom line keep your mouth shut study your academics come in tip top shape keep up your equipment and appearance you will do fine. They want you to pass , SCPD needs good cops .

Good post

More important, thank you for your service!

[Unregistered1234]

Good post

More important, thank you for your service!

Thank you , despite all the crazy posts in here , SCPD is made up of largely dedicated officers who do their job with Professionalism and pride and despite all that as a Police Dept we have Endured during this regime we do our jobs and for the most part do it well because we do care about the public we serve !!!!

[sippy cup]

Great Info. Do you know when the next class is? I received a 95 on the 2007 test and my name was called in the lottery but I have not be called to take the fitness test yet.

well, you're off to a great start kid. not even hired yet and you're already neck deep on the schnozzle.

my advice would be to forget anything you've read here. maybe you can come back after you have a few cup's of coffee. and whatever you do, don't ever say to the academy staff or fto "but I read it on the shwazzz..."

[Unregistered1234]

well, you're off to a great start kid. not even hired yet and you're already neck deep on the schnozzle.

my advice would be to forget anything you've read here. maybe you can come back after you have a few cup's of coffee. and whatever you do, don't ever say to the academy staff or fto "but I read it on the shwazzz..."

Hey your on here too , a person asking advice as im sure you once did or you the typical hairbag who knew it all , dont give the kid a ration of shit , and hopefully they do listen to my advice , it got me thru 2 police academies and almost 30 full years on SCPD .

[Unregistered4444]

Thanks, I have been looking on the Internet to see if and when there would be a future class. I had no luck so I came here. I just was curious to see if I even had a chance of being called.


Hey your on here too , a person asking advice as im sure you once did or you the typical hairbag who knew it all , dont give the kid a ration of shit , and hopefully they do listen to my advice , it got me thru 2 police academies and almost 30 full years on SCPD .

[Unregistered1975]

Great Info. Do you know when the next class is? I received a 95 on the 2007 test and my name was called in the lottery but I have not be called to take the fitness test yet.

You're either not paying attention or you are full of bs. Everyone who received a 95 was called. Levy was selecting names from the 95's, but they were afraid of a lawsuit because of the way he was picking them, so instead of only a certain number of people in that score band getting called, everyone got called. I know, I was one of them. I had a physical in January. The academy is in September. If you are age-eligible, I hope you signed up for the test in June because it sounds like you either didn't take the test in 2007, or didn't get a 95, or you did, and you f*cked up because, like I said, everyone with a 95 got called down for orientation, was given a background check packet, and a physical.

[Unregistered289]

A bit closer to the original topic, I noticed my local library has a new program called "Preparing for the Police Academy". Described as "a primer for those individuals who are about to enter the police academy. A former police academy instructor will give a general overview of academy standards with an emphasis on physical conditioning."

If you're planning on taking the SCPD test, you might want to see if your local library has a similar program to sit in on.

[oh nooooo]

You're either not paying attention or you are full of bs. Everyone who received a 95 was called. Levy was selecting names from the 95's, but they were afraid of a lawsuit because of the way he was picking them, so instead of only a certain number of people in that score band getting called, everyone got called. I know, I was one of them. I had a physical in January. The academy is in September. If you are age-eligible, I hope you signed up for the test in June because it sounds like you either didn't take the test in 2007, or didn't get a 95, or you did, and you f*cked up because, like I said, everyone with a 95 got called down for orientation, was given a background check packet, and a physical.

sounds like another salty prior timer... we have enough guys like you..

[the krypt keeper]

If anyone is wondering, first day of academy wait in car until directed. DO NOT GET OUT. Practice your situps, pushups and run prior to attending. They don't make you do a ton in one set but by the end of the day you've done a few hundred. The runs arent dreadful, mile or 2 then cals back to another mile or 2 and cals. Don't let anyone fool you either give 100% on pt tests, you will be recognized for effort. Make sure you have shower shoes because you'll be showering there at LEAST 3 times a week and the floors are pretty gross. If possible study all their 10 codes prior to attending academy and you'll 100% be up on everything. If issued dress shoes make sure their spit shinned because you'll spend many many many hours your first night doing them so if they are done prior youll get a few hours of sleep. For the spit shine give the whole shoe a nice coat but make sure the tips are real shinny or you will be writing. Always come prepared, if your not you'll pay for it and they will catch you.

the last post on this "thread from the dead" was in 2007 before you drudged it up.

just goes to show that since Steve levy's political demise, the swazzy's days are numbered.

[Unregistered4444]

Why would I be full of BS. I received a letter a few months back saying my name got picked in the lottery. That was it. I never received anything else in the mail.

You're either not paying attention or you are full of bs. Everyone who received a 95 was called. Levy was selecting names from the 95's, but they were afraid of a lawsuit because of the way he was picking them, so instead of only a certain number of people in that score band getting called, everyone got called. I know, I was one of them. I had a physical in January. The academy is in September. If you are age-eligible, I hope you signed up for the test in June because it sounds like you either didn't take the test in 2007, or didn't get a 95, or you did, and you f*cked up because, like I said, everyone with a 95 got called down for orientation, was given a background check packet, and a physical.

[Unregistered90210]

If you want a straight answer go to Civil Service 853-5500.

[Unregistered4444444]

Thanks, I called this morning. They are up to #781 on the 95% lottery. I am in the 790's. I will keep my fingers crosssed that they bring in another class before the 07 test expires.

If you want a straight answer go to Civil Service 853-5500.

[Unregistered265437]

Thanks, I called this morning. They are up to #781 on the 95% lottery. I am in the 790's. I will keep my fingers crosssed that they bring in another class before the 07 test expires.

Did you sign up for the June test? Not likely anyone else will be called from the '07 batch.

[Unregistered444444]

No thats it for me. I miss the age requirement. I would have liked to get called but I guess things happen for a reason.


Did you sign up for the June test? Not likely anyone else will be called from the '07 batch.