Why is the Hofstra rape accuser getting a free pass from Nassau DA Kathleen Rice?

[ToroToro]

Last time I checked, filing a false police report is a crime.

Being African-American does have its advantages.

[Unregistered23]

Four men lost almost a week of freedom because of This womans false report...not to mention that I personaly might think maybe a women who claims that she was raped might of made it up to mask some regret, where as before I would of believed her if she put on a good show. I think that it is an injustice to women in nassau county and and to those four men who lost thier freadom that DA Rice arrainged a plea deal with that liar.

[Unregisteredofcourse]

Last time I checked, filing a false police report is a crime.

Being African-American does have its advantages.

Of course the men being accused were also African-American, so I guess that obliterates your whole point.

[Try this angle]

Of course the men being accused were also African-American, so I guess that obliterates your whole point.


The men who were accused of rape in this instance were Latino while the "victim" was of African ethnic origin (and not the descendant of US chattel slaves). I presume that the news accounts fo the story are correct, and that the rape "victim" was someone who consented to a voluntary sexual encounter with five men in a Hofstra University dormatory shower stall, something I find a bit hard to believe, even with the video which showed it was "consensual." Amazing, remember back in the day when feminists considered every encounter with a male as a form of "date rape" and how we had to parse the intent of the female participant in sexual activity?

Over the past several months, we have seen the district attorney decline to prosecute instances in which you had multicultural clashes in which members fo the minority group were the aggressors. We have the black man who was forcefully thrown out of a Latino deli, and was severely beaten. We have the story of a street fight where a thirty year old white male suffered a fractured jaw, fractured orbit, and some brain damage after being beaten by black teens. In both situations, if I recall, there was no prosecution because they were considered forms of self defense, notwithstanding the severity of the beatings. One wonders if whites beat blacks or latinos this severely if the outcome would be different, and there would have been prosecutions. And don't give me this grand jury shit. A grand jury is a prosecutor's tool and does what the prosecutor wants. A grand jury can indict a ham sandwich, according to Sol Wachtler.

Frankly, I do not think we really know what happened in this situation, but consider this: what if this woman had initially consented to some form of sexual activity, but the situation got out of hand, with more guys getting into the situation. She may have consented to going off with a guy or even two... but once it hit four or five guys.... by this time she is thinking survival and cooperates with the men...... the encounter moves from consensual to non consensual, yet she does not scream or seek "help" or say no because she is in some real trouble.

Rice's people get the "video" tape. Then some headstrong ADA or police officer confronts the victim with the tape and pounds this very confused girl into an admission that she that the enounter was "wholly consensual." Now Rice gets to dodge the explosive racial politics of five latin men accused of raping a black woman, one portrayed as a "brilliant pre med honor student."

Rice is caught in an inconsistent situation. She can't prosecute the five young men, but she might have trouble if she prosecutes a female who testifies that she had suffered the confusion that one would understandably suffer from some form of sexual trauma, where guilt, remorse, anger, and the like cause a victim confusion, especially if it was her staff which bullied the young woman into dropping her charges.

So Rice has to come up with some "deal" to cover up the situation, especially if it was her office which man handled the victim.

[Unregistered34423]

DUe to her age the most she can be charged with is misdimeanors. Th emax jail time would be 6 months and rarely will a judge sentence a first time offender to jail time. Im exstremely unhappy about the ability of female to put people in prison merely on her say so. Basicly, its a civil rights violation. This is teh result of a strong lobby from womens groups.

[Book of the month club]

The men who were accused of rape in this instance were Latino while the "victim" was of African ethnic origin (and not the descendant of US chattel slaves). I presume that the news accounts fo the story are correct, and that the rape "victim" was someone who consented to a voluntary sexual encounter with five men in a Hofstra University dormatory shower stall, something I find a bit hard to believe, even with the video which showed it was "consensual." Amazing, remember back in the day when feminists considered every encounter with a male as a form of "date rape" and how we had to parse the intent of the female participant in sexual activity?

Over the past several months, we have seen the district attorney decline to prosecute instances in which you had multicultural clashes in which members fo the minority group were the aggressors. We have the black man who was forcefully thrown out of a Latino deli, and was severely beaten. We have the story of a street fight where a thirty year old white male suffered a fractured jaw, fractured orbit, and some brain damage after being beaten by black teens. In both situations, if I recall, there was no prosecution because they were considered forms of self defense, notwithstanding the severity of the beatings. One wonders if whites beat blacks or latinos this severely if the outcome would be different, and there would have been prosecutions. And don't give me this grand jury shit. A grand jury is a prosecutor's tool and does what the prosecutor wants. A grand jury can indict a ham sandwich, according to Sol Wachtler.

Frankly, I do not think we really know what happened in this situation, but consider this: what if this woman had initially consented to some form of sexual activity, but the situation got out of hand, with more guys getting into the situation. She may have consented to going off with a guy or even two... but once it hit four or five guys.... by this time she is thinking survival and cooperates with the men...... the encounter moves from consensual to non consensual, yet she does not scream or seek "help" or say no because she is in some real trouble.

Rice's people get the "video" tape. Then some headstrong ADA or police officer confronts the victim with the tape and pounds this very confused girl into an admission that she that the enounter was "wholly consensual." Now Rice gets to dodge the explosive racial politics of five latin men accused of raping a black woman, one portrayed as a "brilliant pre med honor student."

Rice is caught in an inconsistent situation. She can't prosecute the five young men, but she might have trouble if she prosecutes a female who testifies that she had suffered the confusion that one would understandably suffer from some form of sexual trauma, where guilt, remorse, anger, and the like cause a victim confusion, especially if it was her staff which bullied the young woman into dropping her charges.

So Rice has to come up with some "deal" to cover up the situation, especially if it was her office which man handled the victim.

I appreciate a great story. And that is exactly what your post is. What if? What if? What if?
The DA does not deal in "What ifs"
You don't have the facts. You even admit you are just going by what you have read in Newsday.
The rest of your story is simply you guessing what you want to think went on. You state "especially if it was her staff which bullied the young woman into dropping her charges"
Where did you read that? Oh I know... that is simply a "What if?"
You also say, "and pounds this very confused girl into an admission that she that the enounter was "wholly consensual."
Where did you read that? Ohhhhh, I know, you are thinking "What if?

What if the sky is falling?
What if your computer breaks?

Hmmmm, we can only hope it breaks. It would prevent us from having to read your fiction.

[look at you]

I appreciate a great story. And that is exactly what your post is. What if? What if? What if?
The DA does not deal in "What ifs"
You don't have the facts. You even admit you are just going by what you have read in Newsday.
The rest of your story is simply you guessing what you want to think went on. You state "especially if it was her staff which bullied the young woman into dropping her charges"
Where did you read that? Oh I know... that is simply a "What if?"
You also say, "and pounds this very confused girl into an admission that she that the enounter was "wholly consensual."
Where did you read that? Ohhhhh, I know, you are thinking "What if?

What if the sky is falling?
What if your computer breaks?

Hmmmm, we can only hope it breaks. It would prevent us from having to read your fiction.

You sound alittle scared. Makes me think I struck a nerve.

[Unregistered cups up]

i'z herd dat duh video of duh gangbang was gonna be posted on youz tube soon. den, its was gonna be made to a video to be sold in da porn store on state street in westbury, an da county was gonna collect tax on da sales of dat video. man, dont youz just love a good gang bang??

[Unregistered454]

You sound alittle scared. Makes me think I struck a nerve.

MAkes me think your one of those whores who gets drunk, fucks everything in site. Then the next day when people call you a whore you claim you where raped. OR one of those NAzi feminists who claim " all sex is rape "

This is the United Sates where you innocent till proven guilty. Becasu eof special intrest groups people like those lacross players have tehir lives ruined without a shred of [proof. As a matter of fact, even when tehre was proof that they didnt do the cime tehy tried to put in them jail to molify people like you.

[riceydiceyday]

The problem with prosecuting this girl is that it would have brought ambiguous headlines for Rice. Prosecuting four men (a mix of black and latino) would have added to Rice's tough on crime allure- an addition clearly valued in an election year.

Rice's office doesn't like wading into gray areas- thats why there are no DWI plea bargains. She doesn't want questions she wants headlines. (Remember, she wants to be the next NYS Atty general- and going after a supposedly troubled black girl would have lost her lots of bleeding heart liberal votes). Troubled? A person going thru a divorce or just lost a loved one, drowns their sorrows in alcohol and gets arrested for DWI- any sympathies from Rice's office?

Any parent of a son should be very concerned about Rice's quick jump to prosecute the boys in the media and her later reluctance to go after the woman who wanted to hide her mistake by crying rape. boo hoo, she is a troubled girl. If there was no cell phone video this troubled girl would have been responsible for putting four innocent boys in jail for 25 years.

What Rice didn't do- there was no independent investigation to try to uncover other evidence of a crime. The sex took place in a dorm bathroom- a semi-public place. The supposed theft of the cell phone took place at at party- did Rice's office try to find witnesses to ANYTHING related to the woman's accusations. Did they even search the restroom for evidence?

[Eric Phillipss]

She goofed. Simple.

[someone gets it]

The men who were accused of rape in this instance were Latino while the "victim" was of African ethnic origin (and not the descendant of US chattel slaves). I presume that the news accounts fo the story are correct, and that the rape "victim" was someone who consented to a voluntary sexual encounter with five men in a Hofstra University dormatory shower stall, something I find a bit hard to believe, even with the video which showed it was "consensual." Amazing, remember back in the day when feminists considered every encounter with a male as a form of "date rape" and how we had to parse the intent of the female participant in sexual activity?

Over the past several months, we have seen the district attorney decline to prosecute instances in which you had multicultural clashes in which members fo the minority group were the aggressors. We have the black man who was forcefully thrown out of a Latino deli, and was severely beaten. We have the story of a street fight where a thirty year old white male suffered a fractured jaw, fractured orbit, and some brain damage after being beaten by black teens. In both situations, if I recall, there was no prosecution because they were considered forms of self defense, notwithstanding the severity of the beatings. One wonders if whites beat blacks or latinos this severely if the outcome would be different, and there would have been prosecutions. And don't give me this grand jury shit. A grand jury is a prosecutor's tool and does what the prosecutor wants. A grand jury can indict a ham sandwich, according to Sol Wachtler.

Frankly, I do not think we really know what happened in this situation, but consider this: what if this woman had initially consented to some form of sexual activity, but the situation got out of hand, with more guys getting into the situation. She may have consented to going off with a guy or even two... but once it hit four or five guys.... by this time she is thinking survival and cooperates with the men...... the encounter moves from consensual to non consensual, yet she does not scream or seek "help" or say no because she is in some real trouble.

Rice's people get the "video" tape. Then some headstrong ADA or police officer confronts the victim with the tape and pounds this very confused girl into an admission that she that the enounter was "wholly consensual." Now Rice gets to dodge the explosive racial politics of five latin men accused of raping a black woman, one portrayed as a "brilliant pre med honor student."

Rice is caught in an inconsistent situation. She can't prosecute the five young men, but she might have trouble if she prosecutes a female who testifies that she had suffered the confusion that one would understandably suffer from some form of sexual trauma, where guilt, remorse, anger, and the like cause a victim confusion, especially if it was her staff which bullied the young woman into dropping her charges.

So Rice has to come up with some "deal" to cover up the situation, especially if it was her office which man handled the victim.

Finally someone who makes sense regarding this issue. Its laughable the comments people are making standing up for these "sweet innocent boys."

[Condoleza Rice]

The problem with prosecuting this girl is that it would have brought ambiguous headlines for Rice. Prosecuting four men (a mix of black and latino) would have added to Rice's tough on crime allure- an addition clearly valued in an election year.

Rice's office doesn't like wading into gray areas- thats why there are no DWI plea bargains. She doesn't want questions she wants headlines. (Remember, she wants to be the next NYS Atty general- and going after a supposedly troubled black girl would have lost her lots of bleeding heart liberal votes). Troubled? A person going thru a divorce or just lost a loved one, drowns their sorrows in alcohol and gets arrested for DWI- any sympathies from Rice's office?

Any parent of a son should be very concerned about Rice's quick jump to prosecute the boys in the media and her later reluctance to go after the woman who wanted to hide her mistake by crying rape. boo hoo, she is a troubled girl. If there was no cell phone video this troubled girl would have been responsible for putting four innocent boys in jail for 25 years.

What Rice didn't do- there was no independent investigation to try to uncover other evidence of a crime. The sex took place in a dorm bathroom- a semi-public place. The supposed theft of the cell phone took place at at party- did Rice's office try to find witnesses to ANYTHING related to the woman's accusations. Did they even search the restroom for evidence?

Well, that Kathleen DA woman, she now be BURNED, OVERCOOKED RICE !
Time to go, Kathleen. Bring in a tough fair experienced District Attorney !

VOTE FOR JOY WATSON FOR DISTRICT ATTORNEY !!!
VOTE FOR WATSON !!

[vote for dillon]

we paid for his daughter's education at LIPA over the last 13 years. vote for the dilly monster, who had NO business, like his daughter, getting involved in the Browne primary.

[Unregisteredpc]

we paid for his daughter's education at LIPA over the last 13 years. vote for the dilly monster, who had NO business, like his daughter, getting involved in the Browne primary.

I really wish I knew who you are so we could have an intelligent and meaningful conversation. You might find the irony, and conflicts in all too close for comfort comparisons.

[UnregisteredIsupport]

I didn't vote for Rice, nor do I think I ever will vote for her in any future races, but what she did in this case gives me pause to re-think my position on her credentials to be the DA.

IMHO, I believe she couldn't have resolved this matter in a more sensible way even if she had Solomon at her side to advise her.

She should take the credit for getting to the bottom of this atrocity in such an expeditious manner. Obviously, the DA saw something very wrong with this case and put pc aside to do the right thing.

There are 5 young men out there that can count themselves very lucky that they caught the DA in the middle of her cycle, otherwise they would still be locked up and would have been persecuted.

Rice's actions were that of what we would expect of a First Class Prosecutor - justice, and only justice.

[Unregistered567]

Finally someone who makes sense regarding this issue. Its laughable the comments people are making standing up for these "sweet innocent boys."

I know, that poor poor nice girl. Clearly those boys hopuld go to jail for ever . All sex is rape after all. Please, half wits like you concocting some story that after the vidoe went off she told them to stop, or that she was too pertrified to to stop them. The fact that she was moaniong in the vidoe and clearly enjoying herself means nothing. Just becasue a girl is naked with her legs open screaming " fuck me oh God fuck me " dosent mean she really wanted to have sex. Clearly shes a rape victem. And God dam it, when are those lacrsoss platyers gettind locked up, just becasue theres a banmk vidoe of them being somewhere else means nothing

[Unregistered69]

I know, that poor poor nice girl. Clearly those boys hopuld go to jail for ever . All sex is rape after all. Please, half wits like you concocting some story that after the vidoe went off she told them to stop, or that she was too pertrified to to stop them. The fact that she was moaniong in the vidoe and clearly enjoying herself means nothing. Just becasue a girl is naked with her legs open screaming " fuck me oh God fuck me " dosent mean she really wanted to have sex. Clearly shes a rape victem. And God dam it, when are those lacrsoss platyers gettind locked up, just becasue theres a banmk vidoe of them being somewhere else means nothing

You saw the video then? Which means either you're one of "those boys" or someone from the prosecution and defense team. Your poor spelling and grammar truly is an indictment of the quality of education at Hofstra University, the intellectual skills of the typical Nassau County ADA, or the acuity of the criminal defense bar.

[sgi]

I know, that poor poor nice girl. Clearly those boys hopuld go to jail for ever . All sex is rape after all. Please, half wits like you concocting some story that after the vidoe went off she told them to stop, or that she was too pertrified to to stop them. The fact that she was moaniong in the vidoe and clearly enjoying herself means nothing. Just becasue a girl is naked with her legs open screaming " fuck me oh God fuck me " dosent mean she really wanted to have sex. Clearly shes a rape victem. And God dam it, when are those lacrsoss platyers gettind locked up, just becasue theres a banmk vidoe of them being somewhere else means nothing

Those boys were not innocent. They did something very wrong. So did she. But, there is no reason to make them out like some sort of victims. They all should be ashamed of themselves. And you too, for finding excuses for their behavior. They went looking for trouble --- they got it. Maybe next time they should be more careful and not get themselves involved in such awful disgusting situations.

[tty]

youre an idiot-a fuckin idiot!

[Unregistered....wow]

Those boys were not innocent. They did something very wrong. So did she. But, there is no reason to make them out like some sort of victims. They all should be ashamed of themselves. And you too, for finding excuses for their behavior. They went looking for trouble --- they got it. Maybe next time they should be more careful and not get themselves involved in such awful disgusting situations.

Wow... How did they go looking for trouble? Last time I checked, there were no laws against consenting people engaging in a sexual act, regardless of the number of people. While I personally do not agree with their behavior, they did not do anything illegal. In my opinion it was a disgusting situation that all parties should be ashamed of, and that was probably the remorse that the girl felt when she made the claim of 'rape'. Filling a false criminal claim is just as disgusting and should be punished as defined under the penal law. This presents a precedent for other that make false claims to file a legal motion for the charges to be thrown out or an appeal from a previous conviction. The law must be applied equally and blindly. It is no excuse that she is just a young, confused, and remorseful young woman. If anything, the district attorney is doing this young girl a disservice by showing her that bad behavior goes unpunished. If there is more to the situation than what is being reported, then I might have a different take on this. But as it stands, it was either a rape or a false criminal claim.

[Unregistered34]

Those boys were not innocent. They did something very wrong. So did she. But, there is no reason to make them out like some sort of victims. They all should be ashamed of themselves. And you too, for finding excuses for their behavior. They went looking for trouble --- they got it. Maybe next time they should be more careful and not get themselves involved in such awful disgusting situations.

Actualy, innocent is exactly what they are. This stuff was going on twenty years ago at Hofstra. They used to call them party trains. Like it or not their are swinger clubs all over the place. Not my cup of tea but to each his own. In this Country if people want to willingly engage in group sex they can. Just because you dont approve dosent make it wrong, or change them from innocent to guilty. And they are victims, they did nothing against the law , where thrown in jail, had their faces plastered all over the media, where branded as RAPISTS. All this for doing NOTHING wrong. ANd if it hadnt been for a video, they probably wold have gone to jail for 25 years. If those guys werent victims I dont know who is.

[Smart anaylsis]

The men who were accused of rape in this instance were Latino while the "victim" was of African ethnic origin (and not the descendant of US chattel slaves). I presume that the news accounts fo the story are correct, and that the rape "victim" was someone who consented to a voluntary sexual encounter with five men in a Hofstra University dormatory shower stall, something I find a bit hard to believe, even with the video which showed it was "consensual." Amazing, remember back in the day when feminists considered every encounter with a male as a form of "date rape" and how we had to parse the intent of the female participant in sexual activity?

Over the past several months, we have seen the district attorney decline to prosecute instances in which you had multicultural clashes in which members fo the minority group were the aggressors. We have the black man who was forcefully thrown out of a Latino deli, and was severely beaten. We have the story of a street fight where a thirty year old white male suffered a fractured jaw, fractured orbit, and some brain damage after being beaten by black teens. In both situations, if I recall, there was no prosecution because they were considered forms of self defense, notwithstanding the severity of the beatings. One wonders if whites beat blacks or latinos this severely if the outcome would be different, and there would have been prosecutions. And don't give me this grand jury shit. A grand jury is a prosecutor's tool and does what the prosecutor wants. A grand jury can indict a ham sandwich, according to Sol Wachtler.

Frankly, I do not think we really know what happened in this situation, but consider this: what if this woman had initially consented to some form of sexual activity, but the situation got out of hand, with more guys getting into the situation. She may have consented to going off with a guy or even two... but once it hit four or five guys.... by this time she is thinking survival and cooperates with the men...... the encounter moves from consensual to non consensual, yet she does not scream or seek "help" or say no because she is in some real trouble.

Rice's people get the "video" tape. Then some headstrong ADA or police officer confronts the victim with the tape and pounds this very confused girl into an admission that she that the enounter was "wholly consensual." Now Rice gets to dodge the explosive racial politics of five latin men accused of raping a black woman, one portrayed as a "brilliant pre med honor student."

Rice is caught in an inconsistent situation. She can't prosecute the five young men, but she might have trouble if she prosecutes a female who testifies that she had suffered the confusion that one would understandably suffer from some form of sexual trauma, where guilt, remorse, anger, and the like cause a victim confusion, especially if it was her staff which bullied the young woman into dropping her charges.

So Rice has to come up with some "deal" to cover up the situation, especially if it was her office which man handled the victim.

It may also be that the girl is being physically or emotionally threatened by the family & friends & the guys themselves and is afraid to tell the truth for fear of herself or her family & friends. It could have been a gang related jumping in as well.

[Unregistered>>]

It may also be that the girl is being physically or emotionally threatened by the family & friends & the guys themselves and is afraid to tell the truth for fear of herself or her family & friends. It could have been a gang related jumping in as well.

In all due respect Smart Analysis were you one of the non violent drug users, addicts of dealers DA Rice gave a second chance to either get straight or go to jail?

If we have it your way, where are the prosecutions for those threats and intimidations of this alleged victim and accuser?

It could also be if this adult 18 year old were caught driving while under the influence of alcohol (NOT DRUGS), and NOT lying to the police, she would have been held accountable, prosecuted, to the fullest extent of the law, even if there was no accident, and no injury.

Joy Watson deserves credit for stepping up to say she would prosecute this woman for filing a false report, which resulted in the arrest of 4, almost 5 men, who would still be jail had it not been for modern day technology of a video cell phone showing consensual sex, which vindicated them.

Please don't add insult to injury and excuse this woman illegal action of filing a false report, or excuse our DA's refusal to prosecute this case, among other crimes commited, in Nassau County.

[Unregistered54355]

It may also be that the girl is being physically or emotionally threatened by the family & friends & the guys themselves and is afraid to tell the truth for fear of herself or her family & friends. It could have been a gang related jumping in as well.


THERE WAS A CELL PHONE VIDEO. Its utterly amazing that this Country harbors the group of NAzi Femanists like you. My God you want these guys put in jail badly and dont care about the truth. Like Nancy Grace and those poor lacross players, on TV every night demanding they go to jail. then of fcourse she took the night off when it was found out that they could prove with a bank survalince video that they werent even there. You wonder how many poor bastards did time for rape they never committed becasue people like you have fromed such powerfull special intrest groups. Maybe we should start prosecuting individuals that keep pushing for the innocent to be locked up for crimes tehy didnt commit.

[We ought to.]

Hang this bitch.

And Rice too.

[Unregistered>>]

Hang this bitch.

And Rice too.


With modern day technology and a modern day experienced DA like Joy Watson, it won't be necessary to resort to the past system of justice involving public hangings. Perhaps your post was inspired by the non existent rope and false allegation made by a recent complainant who lied and filed a false report with the government, that she tied up (with rope) was gang raped, when it was proven, with modern day evidence, that it was consenusal sex.

DA Rice had many chances to prove that she was tough on crime, fair on justice. It's my belief she failed to deliver, on other cases and investigations, over the past 4 years.

Joy Watson is our hope and option. No excuses, go out and get your friends and family to vote for Joy Watson as our Nassau County District Attorney.

[Unregistered>>]

With modern day technology and a modern day experienced DA like Joy Watson, it won't be necessary to resort to the past system of criminal justice. Public hangings were outlawed. Perhaps your post was inspired by the non existent rope, and false allegation made by a recent complainant who lied and filed a false report with the government --that she WAS tied up (with rope) and gang raped by 4-5 men, when it was proven, with modern day evidence, it was consenusal sex.

DA Rice had many chances to prove that she was tough on crime, fair on justice. It's my belief she failed to deliver on her campaign promises, on other cases and investigations, over the past 4 years. What a terrible message to send to the community; if you're a young adult you can walk into a police department, file a false report, get 4 men arrested for a hideous crime they did not commit. And with a promise to get professional help, and 6 weeks of full time community service, they would be able to put their crime behind them, move on with their life, just like this 18 year old woman.

This is not true for these men, who for the rest of their lives must explain their arrest on various applications. Upon information, the system does not provide a remedy to erase these false arrests from their record.

Another fact, this 18 year old shook up the community of younger and older residents; gave a black eye to Hofstra University; cost the system many thousands of dollars in resources used to handle her false complaint, against these falsely accused men. They were arrested, processed and arraigned and spent days in jail. The media did their job and reported the facts made known to them, which vilified these young men for days.

Consider the fact the defendant's families had to pay criminal defense attorneys to represent these falsely accused defendants, their family. The NC DA refused to seek prosecution, and justice against this complainant - the accuser, whose crime of filing a false report did so much damage. It caused community outrage against these former defendants, who were prominently exposed in the media. It was reported these falsely accused families received threatening and offensive mail.

Joy Watson is our hope to for justice in Nassau County. No excuses, go out, get your friends and family to vote for Joy Watson as our Nassau County District Attorney. Watson would have gotten the same evidence, and with that evidence, and the facts, prosecuted and sought justice for the victims, and their families, the State, for this woman's crime.

[We ought to]

With modern day technology and a modern day experienced DA like Joy Watson, it won't be necessary to resort to the past system of justice involving public hangings. Perhaps your post was inspired by the non existent rope and false allegation made by a recent complainant who lied and filed a false report with the government, that she tied up (with rope) was gang raped, when it was proven, with modern day evidence, that it was consenusal sex.

DA Rice had many chances to prove that she was tough on crime, fair on justice. It's my belief she failed to deliver, on other cases and investigations, over the past 4 years.

Joy Watson is our hope and option. No excuses, go out and get your friends and family to vote for Joy Watson as our Nassau County District Attorney.

So maybe the next time 4-5 guys rape a woman, they can get 'counseling' as well.

Better to ruin one person's lives than 4-5, right?

As for hanging the bitch, nice job stretching it. 'Hang' as in PROSECUTE. Even if the 4-5 men involved were not angels, they did not deserve the treatment they received by this bitchs' office. Or to be falsely accused by some cum dumpster who LIED.

WOW. You also wanna buy a bridge in Brooklyn?

[Unregistered 787]

Once again, this thread is a joke. You fail to understand that Joy Watson -- this experienced, modern ADA, would never have learned that the girl was lying. She relied on the detectives to tell her everything, had no oversight, and believed that what they told her was gospel. It is only because of this DA are those guys free. In fact, one of the lawyers said on LI Talks that he's never seen a DA work with the speed that Rice and her lawyers did. Joy Watson is nothing but a hack who will turn back the clock to the days when Dillon and his cohorts did nothing but a couple of high-profile cases and then bragged about how tough they were.

[PansyPooper]

Once again, this thread is a joke. You fail to understand that Joy Watson -- this experienced, modern ADA, would never have learned that the girl was lying. She relied on the detectives to tell her everything, had no oversight, and believed that what they told her was gospel. It is only because of this DA are those guys free. In fact, one of the lawyers said on LI Talks that he's never seen a DA work with the speed that Rice and her lawyers did. Joy Watson is nothing but a hack who will turn back the clock to the days when Dillon and his cohorts did nothing but a couple of high-profile cases and then bragged about how tough they were.


This is exactly what Ms. Rice does - take the cases that ensure an easy conviction. Too bad she doesnt put more resources into order of protection
cases where ADAs drag their feet until someone actually is hurt.

[Unregistered 787]

Here we go again with the Rice bashing. (Must be a detective posting). The problem with the homicide and the girl with the order of protection was that the detectives in the Nassau County Police Department failed to do their job. In fact, News 12 reported that there were at least 5 times where detectives let her killer go even and didn't arrest him for violations of orders of protection. I think they even gave him a summons to come back to court after finding him driving the victim's car. And you want to blame this on Rice? Give me a break. The reason that woman is dead is because NCPD didn't do their job. Again, the people who Joy promises to protect by getting rid of any oversight of them will be protected. Seems to be a pattern on this message board and with Joy Watson in Hofstra and the death of Joanna Bird: Let's blame the DA's office so noone holds NCPD accountable for their utter failures! Well I'm not buying anymore.

[projection expert]

Once again, this thread is a joke. You fail to understand that Joy Watson -- this experienced, modern ADA, would never have learned that the girl was lying. She relied on the detectives to tell her everything, had no oversight, and believed that what they told her was gospel. It is only because of this DA are those guys free. In fact, one of the lawyers said on LI Talks that he's never seen a DA work with the speed that Rice and her lawyers did. Joy Watson is nothing but a hack who will turn back the clock to the days when Dillon and his cohorts did nothing but a couple of high-profile cases and then bragged about how tough they were.

Kind of like Rice. She gets into some high profile cases and then lets drug dealers continue to ply their nefarious trade.

[Rice and SUozz]

Something weird going on here. Maybe theyll fight each other,.




YEAH

[Unregistered 787]

Hey projection expert, if you got your head out of the butt of NCPD and Joy Watson's campaign, you'd see that the policy that Rice initiated in Hempstead is now being followed by multiple cities in the country. The reason: it appears to be working. The WSJ did a great report on the project as did Primetime Live on ABC (national news). It talked about how the program is innovative and working in communities where the people want it to work. Let's give credit to Rice for doing something smart and innovative and ultimately successful. The only thing the Dillon administration did (where Joy was a large important part, right?) was prosecute Joey Buttafuoco and Amy Fisher, and they screwed that up too.