View Full Version : Women "on the job"
suffragette
09-03-2004, 03:36 PM
too few - out of line with population equation! For the most part, like so many other "male" businesses this is still a white boys club!
Finest
09-03-2004, 03:44 PM
I'd like to hear your thoughts!
Friend 5
09-03-2004, 04:06 PM
Please could you explain, just what that means white boys club (Male) This is not unoffensive question I would like you to explain to me what that means, Thank you.
Equal for all
09-03-2004, 07:47 PM
If a woman is capable of doing the job then I have no problem with it. There is nothing preventing them from signing up for the test and taking it so i don't want to hear how there is a disproportionate amount of women on the job. My only issue is that a woman's physical standards to complete the academy are far less than a male's. We all fight the same perps so we should all be required to meet the same physical standards. I know these are state mandated requirements so nothing is going to change. This is just a statement of my personal opinion. I have worked with some really great female cops and some who i hope never show up at any of my calls (but i have also worked with male cops like that so there is no difference). If u can do the job then i could care less if you are a woman, a man, or a trained chimpanzee.
suffragette
09-04-2004, 05:59 AM
please don't start with that "equal standards" crap- if the standards we're truly equal, women would get premium pay for carrying the human race! so as silly as THAT sounds, please don't start that....the reality is, the standards are lowered for certain age brackets as well: a 35 year old recruit has to do LESS push-up's than a 21 year old! so standards are adjusted for all kinds of things; people bring different skill levels to different positions and if EXACTLY THE SAME requirements were necessary we'd be better off cloning or better yet roboting our police force. Yes women can take the test, so can hispanic males, black males, chinese males, indian males, russian males and on and on and on. The reality is, the police departments are predominantly white, predominantly male = boys club. I DO BELIEVE you have to be able to do the job, I also KNOW - and so does every one else - women have to work harder just to keep up - IT's a FACT we make 78 cents for doing the same job men get paid a dollar to do...
Please
09-04-2004, 06:26 AM
IT's a FACT we make 78 cents for doing the same job men get paid a dollar to do...
I didn't know we have different contracts for male/female
male/female just know your limitations & capabilities!!
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MEHATES0s
09-04-2004, 06:30 AM
HA! HA! I can lift more than you!!!!!
Equal for all
09-04-2004, 07:19 AM
You are right, the older you are the less you have to do as well. I don't agree with that either. I won't argue that the dept's are predominantly white males, because they are. If the majority of people taking and passing the tests are white males then that is what the dept is going to reflect. Like I said earlier, the test is open to everyone regardless of race, sex, creed, etc.... Sign up take it and good luck. It is a wonderful job. Don't even start that women have to work harder to keep up nonsense. The promotional tests are the same for men and women. Most city cops will testify that women upon graduating the academy are usually taken care of. Most of the sgt's that I worked for in the city usually had a brand new female fresh out of the academy driving them around while the guys were walking foot posts in some nightmarish neighborhoods. And from what i've seen in both my time in the city and suffolk, women get picked for certain details strictly because they are women and not because of their work performance. Im not trying to make this a huge sexist issue. Like I said, I welcome anybody capable of doing the job regardless of race, sex, etc... Just save the old "the white male is keeping women and minorities down" nonsense. Those days are over. At least in the police dept they are.
Most did get special trea
09-04-2004, 09:57 AM
Suffolk County spent millions of dollars in court because the tests/psychs/evals & quals ARE skewed toward white men!! Look at the court decisions...but to be fair, it's not just here. As a matter of fact, just about all the standardized testing for all things everywhere is designed for the male brain - again facts. As to the separate contract issue - ridiculous statement..... c'mon....all you had to do was look at the newsday story about top earners....the top LI male earners were making 25 million(example) with the lowest being say $1.5M; on the female list, the top woman was at $1.3M; 200K less than the lowest male...you all know it's true!!! as to the special duties, you also know that's so the PD can LOOK gender blind and puts those women OUT FRONT so the "public" and "pols" can SEE them....the poor guy with the foot detail makes the same but doesn't have the "perks".of riding around with a supervisor, that foot patrolman wouldn't run in for coffee either!!!..the long term benefit for poor foot patrol is that his odds of getting that promotion are 200% greater than hers....
Equal for all
09-04-2004, 10:25 AM
This is tedious. We were talking about women on the job and now you are bringing up ridiculous salaries from who knows what professions.. And if you are getting your facts from newsday then you are really misguided. Maybe about 1/4 of what that paper prints is fact and when it comes to the police dept nothing is true. You probably read the National Enquirer too. Maybe someone can help me out here but I didn't see one question on the pd exam or psych or anything that was biased one way or another to white males. That just sounds like a pitiful excuse. I must conclude that you really know nothing about the job. How do you figure that a cop on foot patrol is 200% more likely to get a promotion? Is that from a newsday article too? Promotions up until the rank of capt are based on scores on the promotional exams. Being on a foot post doesn't help you at all. I'm sure you will respond back that the promotional exams are also biased towards white males. Enough is Enough with your poor oppressed woman garbage.
Patrol
09-04-2004, 11:17 AM
I've worked my share of women on this job, partnered with, adjoined sectors with, and honestly there were some very capable of handling themselves, some not. Look at the older Lady from the last class. She Froze during a roll around. No use of radio or anything else while her partner was rolling around with the perp. She resigned. There are others that don't handle themselves, but that goes for some white males here also that I say please don't let me work with them. One point I have to make is, what is the biggest reason you don't see many females and minorities as patrol officers? They end up as detectives or in special units because they are minorities. I don't have much to complain about because I don't put in for those details, but that is one of the biggest reasons they are not visible on patrol.
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Patrol 2
09-04-2004, 12:21 PM
No i don't want a female working next to me but it's not that they are not a good cop. They just don't have the strength to roll around with someone. Therefore they are of no use to me. I don't need help deciding what paper to do or whether or not I should make a collar. If I need help it's for 1 of 2 things. Physical strenth to lock someone up or to help direct traffic. They are only good for the latter only. Sorry females but it's true.
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Sheik Yabooty
09-04-2004, 12:39 PM
Too many are "housewives" talked into the job by hubby,usually NYPD or FDNY....they want NOTHING to do with the street..And those that are on the road want out as soon as possible....How many 40-45 yr old females do you see pushing a sector car? Very few if not any...why? because they're scared $hitless. They want the bucks but don't want to have to work for it..they rather sit on the desk, do DARE or some other BS job. How many are out 401? Somone brushes against them and they're out "injured". I'm sure we all know at least 1 female in our pct who's "still out" a year later after spraining her hand or hurting her back helping rescue or some other BS injury..Female back-up??? Hell, I'll take my chances.........
blue4life
09-04-2004, 01:57 PM
Physical standards should be same 4 all all ages men and woman thats fair and stop whining woman get the red carpet treatment so do others the process tries to elimanate white males more because people complain there are 2 many of us
joey d
09-04-2004, 04:22 PM
i like a female partner when i work midnites, theres certain things they can do better then men
John P Niss
09-05-2004, 07:40 AM
as long as female cops have big hammers, they are ok in my pct. show me the jugs. giving good knob jobs is a plus
wanker
09-05-2004, 08:58 AM
I don't know where Suffragette gets her info but it definitely doesn't seem right. As far as quoting from the recent court decisions, you can bring anything before a Liberal judge, a foolish jury and viola, a bogus ruling. I defy you to show me how a test is biased. Point out a specific question on the lame entrance exam and the promotional exam that favors white males. After all its just paper, ink and words.
As far as working with females, I'd rather not. I'd work with 90% of the males out there but would willingly work with only 10% of the females. Most females are useless in a roll around. I've been at a 16 with one and she just froze. Just stood there doing nothing. She screams on the radio for everything including an 18. Saw how three got thrown through a wall (really!!) by one guy and were getting bounced around pretty good until the real police showed up. Just look how they run to the desk at the first opportunity or some other inside job . Look at the mess they made of 301 L/D. The list goes on and on. Change the system, ONE high standard for ALL. Put the standards out for all to see. This is where you have to be to get the job then maintain weight and fitness standards like the military.
copper
09-05-2004, 09:29 AM
When I see a female arrive at the scenene or saying she's backing me over the radio, I say to myself " Great just another gun that can get me hurt" sorry but just the way I feel. I once heard someone say to a female (who pulled out her gun for no reason) " PUT THAT THING AWAY BEFORE YOU HURT SOMEBODY!"
talk to the boys 6th precinct squad 1. thats her nickname. a 42 y/o rookie.
preglock
09-05-2004, 09:11 PM
give her a chance she just came out, if she was 22 and purdy then she'd be ok right
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my mistake
09-05-2004, 09:28 PM
thats where your wrong shes got 2 years on, she was a rookie at 42. not that theres much differencer
doin the job
09-05-2004, 09:41 PM
Look at the lack of opportunity for females....one girl in the third had to wait two years for her shield!!!!!!!!!!!!
suffragette
09-06-2004, 07:35 AM
Guess you got some thoughts!!! am sure they were what you expected
Sheik Yabooty
09-06-2004, 09:06 AM
Two years to get her Shield?!!!!!! Why so long? It's a travesty i tell ya...I'm writing my congressman!!!!!
Finest
09-06-2004, 09:12 AM
They were a little more "against" females on the job than I thought. They do have some valid points. Look at the 4th precinct in Suffolk and the 7th precinct in Nassau. They are the slowest precincts in both counties. They also have the largest percentage of females by far than any other precinct. This is not just by chance. They ask for it. Also the "line of duty percentages" and "dare offices". Not to say all females "ON THE JOB" are like this but many of them are. I don't mind working close to females but just don't back me up cause your only gonna get someone hurt and can not physically help me. It's not their fault they just aren't born with the physical strength to help. And if you go "on the back" someone who can really help won't go.
Bundy
09-06-2004, 01:45 PM
In my agency, women are always frontrunners in comp scams (non-pregnancy related), getting off on holiday scams, and always the first to complain about getting forced, as if men don't have family issues as well. I am not a sexist, just stating the hard facts.
It's a sad reflection on those women who do pull their weight, don't complain, and do the same work.
SCPD1
09-06-2004, 05:17 PM
Dont you love hearing 320 clear for a 12!! Then she spends half the night in the precinct.. What a pisser when the bosses are scared of these women!
scpd patrol
09-07-2004, 08:44 AM
I think back a couple of years ago to that scenario. A deal had been worked out to resolve it, but several of the women refused to drop their lawsuits even though they would have gotten back their time and money. How many male and female officers got screwed thereafter because of that! I personally know of a female PO who did. She was very unhappy from the outset, that these 3-5 woman spoke for all.
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1192 rex
09-07-2004, 10:20 AM
is 12-18 the 1 that cleared a 12 to pba office? ha heard about that from dispatcher,shes 40 yo? why'd they bother taking her? let me guess house mom and the kids all grown, time for a career?
sadly the few bad ones like her ruin it for all the others.
dead end cops
09-12-2004, 05:14 AM
yeah, i was working yesterday,3-11 in 6th, i heard that on the 7-3,they give 12-18 a alarm the next sector over, meanwhile the sector operator is just aboutto be in the middle of a roll around with a perp. she says OVER THE AIR thats 612's sector, not mine. after the 3 guys go over the air with 1 in custody, she doesnt even offer to 1st, go assist them or 2nd, pick up the b/s call.
the 12 operator is a good cop, back anyone, pick up their b/s, doing REAL police work, catching mutts, she dont even want to do the easy stuff. she should just go out with her ''injury'' from the ''roll around'' she had with the 70 year old again
MAGIC PATCH
09-12-2004, 05:21 AM
Whoa to the Magic Patch, triangular in shape and access to all things easy. Even the Un Purdy ones find a home outside the Patrol car. , ..........1% of them may be worth there salt, the rest become someones chair polisher, and pencil pusher. Boo Hoo But I wanna be treated equal
not majic anymore just pa
09-16-2004, 09:45 PM
agreed but you spelled magic wrong
BlueBird
09-17-2004, 11:08 AM
One of females used her magic patch to get a nice shiny BMW from a boss. She's been passed around from the 1st to the 6th. Makes me sick every time I go to work seeing these "men" trip all over themselves for her. She couldn't find a pimple on a pig's ass but she has a steady seat. What a job!
Pick 6
09-17-2004, 09:02 PM
What squad? Her initials?
6th roadkill
09-17-2004, 10:50 PM
yeah where they hiding her? im probably the prettiest cop in the pct........and im not that pretty... at all.
ThreeTen
09-18-2004, 05:36 AM
Sounds like one from my squad in the 36 zone.
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09-18-2004, 07:30 AM
uh-oh
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salty
09-19-2004, 07:53 AM
what u have to do is bury these slugs. wait until she tries to clear an 18 and she has something holding, dont pick it up for her. then you clear for yourself.if she switches you down tell her you're working on something.
if shes got the nuts to go over the air saying its not her sector, when you pick up something in hers, and she 38s the call she is on,(bet she does that, dont she) switch her down and tell her to respond for paper on this call.
thing is all the neighboring sectors have to be in on it, otherwise it will never stop.
funny as negative as this thread is, not 1 person has posted anything DEFENDING the fems. seems like they know better, why bother.
citizen
09-19-2004, 08:35 AM
Well.....been listening to alot of cranky hairbags out there......alot of complaining going on. Comments on officer safety, etc. Unfortunately, as we have recently seen, handgun retention knows no gender. Both in the 5 boroughs as well as Suffolk. Seems to me that there haven't been any female cops making car stops hoof it home in their underwear lately. Look past the "magic patch" - there are plenty of cops skating on the job. You telling me that all the male cops are holding the job together and it's a lousy job now because of the females? Seen enough over 25 years and I've worked with plenty of male cops who couldn't run their sector or their lives. Do your job and quit whining about the cop who doesn't do theirs. Where's your supervision? When the bosses supervise their squads properly, cops will have to conform and do their job.
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The job......
09-19-2004, 01:45 PM
Not complaining, just making an observation. The job was tough before you took it and it will be tough after they toss your tin into the drawer at the "shield desk".
The last line of my post contained the word "properly". Perhaps you missed it.
observing
09-20-2004, 12:42 AM
I just sat here and read every post on this thread.....and i hear a lot of bitching, whining and complaining.....but look at this issue from another point of view.....every Police Dept has inside post, jobs,spots or whatever you want to call them....if you want one then put in for it....I know i dont want it....i dont want to be under boss supervision 8 hrs a day....always being responsible to see or handle something for some lazy boss that wont do it themselves.....i'd rather be on patrol as my own boss.....i can go where i want when i want for as long as i want with no one to answer to.....thats where the most police work really gets done....meet and greet the public and omnipresence.....remember..the grass isn't always green inside.....so quit complaing unless you want the inside spots that are being done by what you call "SKIRTS".....be happy that they are stuck inside and not you.
outsider NEVER in
09-20-2004, 05:52 AM
but the observations we are discussing are about the females that are out in patrol, not all of them just the ones that are manipulating the system. yes guys do it to. but most of them have 3000 tins, these ladies are 5300s. they are the ones dying to go sit somewhere.
Fed Up
09-20-2004, 09:21 PM
I've been around for a few and have to say - in my seventeen years I have only had the pleasure of working with two female officers who could contribute at anywhere near the "average" level of most guys.
They are much too emotional at the wrong times, way too sympathetic at the wrong times, far too weak at the wrong times, and generally have always been looking for a way "not" to do the job. I have watched while a female with one year on the job sat inside all night talking to the LT. , while male PO's who stopped for five minutes were told to get back out there, stats - stats - stats. This female PO later moved in with the LT. He's now a Captain and she's a detective. Whew! There are far too many female PO's lying down for a leg up somewhere, kneeling down for their gold shields, and bitching about it the entire time. Sooner or later one of them will come forward after the lying down or kneeling in front of is complete, and when they don't get their gold shield - and then we will get an earful. Women on the job - no way, they don't belong here, they make everything more difficult than it has to be. Sorry if I offended any of you poor souls but lets be honest, this type of thing goes on in every command and at every level.
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Stanley Lighthouse
09-21-2004, 02:28 AM
Quote:if you've been a cop for 25 years you know the state of things w/ bosses, its all about the stats, and signing books. thats the extent of my supervisionPerhaps you could tell us what action a supervisor takes when the officer he is supervising does not maintain his or her stats?
no i wont
09-21-2004, 05:36 AM
we dont do stats anymore. no one cares but you. pathetic i think twisted sister issues thread is open go over there.LOL
stat man
09-21-2004, 09:50 AM
the only stat we need on the job are the broads chest size. the bigger the cup, the quicker to get promoted.
PROBLEM
the pants size usually is far greater than the cupsize.
tom4756
09-27-2004, 08:45 PM
This was an interesting topic. Just wanted it back.
hehehehe
09-30-2004, 09:38 AM
NYCEMT
09-30-2004, 06:47 PM
I work EMS in the 105-113 area. when i transmit a 10-13 because i am rolling around with a patient or EDP ,and the RMP gets there and then they have to call for help then There is a problem, The people on the job MUST be able to do the job. Mail and/or female.
Not For Nothing
09-30-2004, 08:42 PM
The crux of the problem lies in the lowering of physical and other hiring standards for the sake of political correctness. Even the hiring tests are a joke and are nothing more than a biographical questionairre so the mentally inferior aren't discriminated against. Even people with criminal convictions are eligible. The world is nuts.
The Job
10-06-2004, 09:35 AM
no the problem is the people they hire want the stats, but dont want to get their hands dirty.
dont have a clue how to handle a sector, but RUN as soon as they here shoplifter in custody, possible 20 on whatever road.
then they stand there while real cops roll around with mutts, at most macing the entire group both cops and badguys because they're 10 feet away, scared to get any closer.
meanwhile they push off anything they can on the guys working around them, and its your fault, if you dont stand up for yourself, forget the magic patch, they're a dime a dozen
Why don't you go complain to your MALE Lt about how he's letting this female sit inside all night long. You should be pissed off at him, as a male, for allowing this to happen.
Sounds Like
10-18-2004, 07:47 AM
sounds like the LT likes what he sees all night long
just heard
10-19-2004, 05:57 AM
Just heard a female officer making a car stop and trying to 32 a male, request back up 4th width. The guy was fighting her and she couldn't handle it. Mooney pond in the 6 th, anyone there?
Late tour
10-19-2004, 07:13 AM
Wow...cop calls for assistance because someone's resisting. So you want to talk about what happened next? I would guess that someone backed her up. Hope you enjoy Oprah this afternoon after you finish doing the laundry.
dlb51
10-19-2004, 07:26 AM
Quote:4th width
It's forthwith
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SPELLINGBEE
10-19-2004, 07:39 AM
I GUESS YOU ARE SO PERFECT THAT YOU NEVER CALLED FOR BACK UP. THERE SHOULD BE TWO COPS IN A POLICE CAR LIKE THE CITY. NEXT TIME YOU CALL A 10-1 I HOPE I'M NOT WATCHING OPRAH.
Late tour
10-19-2004, 10:46 AM
The point being made was that when a cop needs help, everyone goes. The person making that post seemed to get a kick out of a fellow cop needing assistance -that she "couldn't handle it". We've all been in situations where another car on the scene would make a world of difference. I don't find any humor in any cop having to go over the air looking for another unit. When a cop can't handle a situation, sufficient quantities of blue show up to "handle it". And you never know when you'll be asking for the same some day. The gossip type nonsense aired out on this site, at times, is ridiculous - that's why I suggested that the poster take up Oprah and the laundry. As for the city job reference-I was lucky enough to get out after a few years for a better situation out here. But my view is that any one wearing blue is a cop and should be treated with respect- NYC,Nassau, Suffolk, local agencies......male or female.
Naysayer
10-19-2004, 03:16 PM
Lt. Eric Adams of NYPD fame. Blue is NOT his primary color when it comes to the job.
cmd310
10-19-2004, 03:30 PM
Because she called for an assist is not an appropriate critique for this thread. If you have never called for an assist than you are doing nothing at work or hiding in the basement!!!!!
SPELLING BEE
10-19-2004, 04:39 PM
I'M SORRY THAT COMMENT WAS NOT FOR YOU IT WAS FOR JUST HEARD, WHO APPARENTLY THINKS HE CAN DO THIS JOB BY HIMSELF. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU EVERYONE NEEDS TO HAVE HIS BROTHER IN BLUE SHOW UP SOMETIMES AND I DON'T CARE IF IT'S MALE OR FEMALE. TIMES I'VE NEEDED HELP BOTH WERE THERE TO ASSIST ME AND I WAS NOT GOING TO DENY ANYONE BECAUSE OF WHAT SEX THEY WERE. UNFORTUNATELY THE LAST FEW COPS THAT WERE KILLED RECENTLY IT DIDN'T MATTER WHAT SEX THEY WERE. RIP
female assist
10-19-2004, 09:46 PM
Common sense and decency always prevails......if we can't be decent to our own, things can quickly go south. Nice to see cops sticking together on this one.
sexual harrassment
10-20-2004, 10:33 AM
lying down or kneeling down for gold shield.
talk about getting screwed on the job
dead ender
10-20-2004, 10:36 AM
Guess the PO's have run out of female perps to make walk naked down the road or screw in the woods so now they do it to each other.
SCPD1
10-20-2004, 11:13 AM
Lets see sector cars 315,320,321 etc in a certain squad the female operators are just looking for that GOLD SHIELD or an easy way to get into the cope unit. Lets see they need help with the arrest paperwork! They are allways 28 personal in the precinct talking to there girl friends. HEY BOSS WAKE UP AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS!!! DONT BE AFRAID OF A FEMALE COP!!!!
Blue Bird
10-20-2004, 01:26 PM
Face it, if you heard a female cop coming to back you up don't you want to get on the air and request that they send a real cop? I know I do. I cringe when one comes to back me up. I always hope that a male is on his way. Unfortunately they are here to stay because of lawsuits and affirmative action, standards be damned!
Don't forget about 313 in squad 3 if you are going to talk about females on their knees for COPE or a shield.
Yayabeanes
10-20-2004, 02:36 PM
"Don't forget about 313 in squad 3 if you are going to talk about females on their knees for COPE or a shield."
And what did you do with your old worn out knee pads?
BLUETOO
10-20-2004, 04:45 PM
If you feel this way about these female officers why don't you have the balls to say it to their faces, instead of whining about it like a little girl. I hope you are not back up for any of these officers cause obviously you guys are one way and that's pretty pathetic that you represent one of us. I know plenty of guys that are milking the system long before these chicks got here. OBVIUOSLY you got no one's d*ck to suck or you would be right along side them.
STALKER
10-20-2004, 04:51 PM
HOW DO YOU GUYS KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT WHAT THESE FEMALE OFFICERS ARE DOING? YOU MUST BE DOING THE SAME THING IF YOU HAVE ALL THE 411 ON THEM. WHAT'S A MATTER COULDN'T GET A DATE ?
scpd patrol
10-20-2004, 04:58 PM
You're right, if you have a problem with your adjacent sector operator, speak to them! Keeping it inside and getting ticked off without addressing the problem is not going to solve the problem. This applies to both male and female POs. i also understand that there is a level of frustration with supervision (or the lack thereof) not getting on those who play certain games (constantly off the road, not going back in service, etc). Supervisors, I believe, do not do the rest of the squad any good by turning a deaf ear to the problem. I'm not saying they should crack the whip, but take some initiative and speak to that officer. Again, this applies to both men and women.
Most importantly, back each other up and go home safe.
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Jakes Dad
10-21-2004, 04:03 PM
Things are just a little too detailed for these people not to be in the know.
Don't like your squad? I love mine. 4 and 4. Less time at work, more time off, more $$ and more of a chance for OT$$$. Don't want someone to come to call? No matter, half the squad is going to show up anyway because of NO TRAFFIC so he/she will not be depended on. Not that much politicking either. No one cares because the white shirts are long gone or are 2 hours from coming in after you get off. Big trade-off is working overnight and sleeping during the day.
Just a word of advice, relax it comes every 2 weeks. You can set your watch by it!!
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12 18 lives
10-29-2004, 04:05 AM
heres the lastest on ms. 12-18 time delayed by couple weeks so the guys in her squad cant figure out who they told thats posting this.
gets a warrant, picks the guy up at0700. 32, then 26 to 1st d. around 1200 shes 27, clears a 18, full hour, picks up 1 call then 12 for gas, shes done for the day.
few days later she s on the 32 run to 1st d. on her way in on her 12, goes v+t shows up at the pct at 0930.the guy riding with her did the chain gang and all the work, and she just hops in the van.
needless to say they're last. plus they run some errand for 634, get back around 1300.
the guy shes riding with goes 27, picks up 5+ calls in 2 hour, allowing his neighboring sectors to clear their 18s. she, ms 12-18... clears an 18. shocking anyone who dont understand this go back a few pages and see the ohter posts about her
FOR IT
12-17-2004, 09:34 PM
I think its all good.
women34345
02-20-2006, 09:39 PM
they bare the best
they bare the bestwhat r u trying to bury?
please don't start with that "equal standards" crap- if the standards we're truly equal, women would get premium pay for carrying the human race! so as silly as THAT sounds, please don't start that....the reality is, the standards are lowered for certain age brackets as well: a 35 year old recruit has to do LESS push-up's than a 21 year old! so standards are adjusted for all kinds of things; people bring different skill levels to different positions and if EXACTLY THE SAME requirements were necessary we'd be better off cloning or better yet roboting our police force. Yes women
can take the test, so can hispanic males, black males, chinese males, indian males, russian males and on and on and on. The reality is, the police departments are predominantly white, predominantly male = boys club. I DO BELIEVE you have to be able to do the job, I also KNOW - and so does every one else - women have to work harder just to keep up - IT's a FACT we make 78 cents for doing the same job men get paid a dollar to do...
IT IS A FACT that Woman who spend the same amount of time in the SAME JOB MAKE Exactly the same amount as men in the SAME JOB.
***WHEN THE WOMAN DOES NOT take off for raising children like men, & stays late for work like men, & puts her job first like men, etc)
You cannot compare "EQUIVALENT" jobs because there is no such animal!!
A woman working as a COP is making the same amount as a man THAT JOB!
A woman working as a SANITATION WORKER is making the same amount as a man THAT JOB!
A woman working as a TEACHER is making the same amount as a man THAT JOB!
A woman working as a CEO is making the same amount as a man THAT JOB!
ETC!!!
seen too much
04-23-2007, 11:41 PM
Lets cut right to the chase and stop all the bullshit.....when was the last time anyone saw a women cop stop a car load of suspicious muts in a dark backstreet ON THEIR OWN self initiated stop(NOT a radio call)...I personally in 25 years of the street and Detective Division have NEVER seen it....Yes, I know there are some male cops who haven't done it either but they represent a far smaller percentage......Who takes all the inside jobs when they come up? Females! Yes I am aware that is because no men apply for them. You know why the men for the most part don't apply for them?...Do you rteally want to know?....BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE COPS!!!...AND WORK THE STREET!...THAT IS WHY THEY CAME ON THE JOB!!! Practically every clerk,crimeanalyst, etc. job in Nassau is filled by a Female and with the exception of a very small number of higher up bosses with balls, nobody will utter a word about it....THIS IS THE TRUTH AND EVERY WORKING COP WHO READS THIS KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.....And yes Mary Poppins, there is the case of the RARE exception.
Mary Poppins
04-24-2007, 12:59 AM
Yeah, but we sure do write a nice neat parking ticket and accident report. And as much as you guys complain, you can't wait to buy us coffee as soon as we sign on, so keep sniffin' suckers.
Yeah, but we sure do write a nice neat parking ticket and accident report. And as much as you guys complain, you can't wait to buy us coffee as soon as we sign on, so keep sniffin' suckers.
Thats your real job, using the magic triangle, yeah we know, just wait til the magic dries up, vagisil cant work miracles
theagentmrsmith
04-24-2007, 12:59 PM
Yeah, but we sure do write a nice neat parking ticket and accident report. And as much as you guys complain, you can't wait to buy us coffee as soon as we sign on, so keep sniffin' suckers.
Is this the reason why you decided to become a cop?? To have men buy you coffee and have them look at you in a sexual way. To write nice and neat accident reports and parking tickets?? You either believe those things, or you are just being sarcastic to prior posts. I hope its the latter, but i really think its not !!!
Yeah, but we sure do write a nice neat parking ticket and accident report. And as much as you guys complain, you can't wait to buy us coffee as soon as we sign on, so keep sniffin' suckers.
Is this the reason why you decided to become a cop?? To have men buy you coffee and have them look at you in a sexual way. To write nice and neat accident reports and parking tickets?? You either believe those things, or you are just being sarcastic to prior posts. I hope its the latter, but i really think its not !!!
just a troll pretending
It is hard to find one that didn't or doesn't take care of the boys.
True class on these posts.
True class on these posts.
thanks for the update toots
I can't believe Paris Hilton got 45 days. That's B.S. and hopefully her appeal will overturn that jackass judge's decision.
I can't believe Paris Hilton got 45 days. That's B.S. and hopefully her appeal will overturn that jackass judge's decision.
Who the hell cares? :roll: :roll: :roll:
I care about the inequities that our justice system dishes out. There are real criminals out there who have been arrested numerous times that have not served a single day. You'll care the day you do something insignifigant and you're before a judge like hers.
I care about the inequities that our justice system dishes out. There are real criminals out there who have been arrested numerous times that have not served a single day. You'll care the day you do something insignifigant and you're before a judge like hers.
You need a hobby...
I care about the inequities that our justice system dishes out. There are real criminals out there who have been arrested numerous times that have not served a single day. You'll care the day you do something insignifigant and you're before a judge like hers.
its good for her that she get a little smack on the wrist and know that she cant buy her way out of taking responsibility. As far as going before a judge for something insignifigant...who has ever done that??
Wasnt it for a dwi? And if she didnt go before a judge for that how much sh!t would there be posted about cops and discretion?
No this particular time was not for the dwi. This time was for driving with a suspended license which violated her probation. Before you say, well there you go, she violated her probation ... look at the facts.
1- She didn't drive for the first 30 days, which IS indicative that she truly believed her license was suspended for just 30 days.
2- Although she must take responsibility for herself, her personal assistant told her that she could use her license to and from work. We all know that these such restricted licenses do exist. Unfortunately, her personal assistant gave her the wrong info.
3- How many people have been locked up on more serious charges and numerous charges AND numerous times. That includes violation of probation and they never served a single day?
There are serious inequities here in this case, just because she is who she is and the judge wants headlines.
No this particular time was not for the dwi. This time was for driving with a suspended license which violated her probation. Before you say, well there you go, she violated her probation ... look at the facts.
1- She didn't drive for the first 30 days, which IS indicative that she truly believed her license was suspended for just 30 days.
2- Although she must take responsibility for herself, her personal assistant told her that she could use her license to and from work. We all know that these such restricted licenses do exist. Unfortunately, her personal assistant gave her the wrong info.
3- How many people have been locked up on more serious charges and numerous charges AND numerous times. That includes violation of probation and they never served a single day?
There are serious inequities here in this case, just because she is who she is and the judge wants headlines.
The initial charge was dwi, thats what she violated probation of, that was the point, after you are on probation, you are owned by the jurisdiction you are living in. The rest of the issues are crap. She is a adult, she could easily have checked herself to find the status of her license. Judges do not solely decide what to do with a probationary violation, the D.A. and probation officer have far more say. The judge simply weighs all the facts of the case.
I know people who have done far less and been banged as well, each case is to be weighed separatley. There is no blanket policy.
No this particular time was not for the dwi. This time was for driving with a suspended license which violated her probation. Before you say, well there you go, she violated her probation ... look at the facts.
1- She didn't drive for the first 30 days, which IS indicative that she truly believed her license was suspended for just 30 days.
2- Although she must take responsibility for herself, her personal assistant told her that she could use her license to and from work. We all know that these such restricted licenses do exist. Unfortunately, her personal assistant gave her the wrong info.
3- How many people have been locked up on more serious charges and numerous charges AND numerous times. That includes violation of probation and they never served a single day?
There are serious inequities here in this case, just because she is who she is and the judge wants headlines.
Of all the things in the world to get your panties in a twist about, you chose this? Get a life!
Unregstd
06-03-2007, 06:17 PM
IT IS A FACT that Woman who spend the same amount of time in the SAME JOB MAKE Exactly the same amount as men in the SAME JOB.
***WHEN THE WOMAN DOES NOT take off for raising children like men, & stays late for work like men, & puts her job first like men, etc)
You cannot compare "EQUIVALENT" jobs because there is no such animal!!
A woman working as a COP is making the same amount as a man THAT JOB!
A woman working as a SANITATION WORKER is making the same amount as a man THAT JOB!
A woman working as a TEACHER is making the same amount as a man THAT JOB!
A woman working as a CEO is making the same amount as a man THAT JOB!
ETC!!!
so ture!!!
oh please please me
06-04-2007, 01:11 AM
it is so hot that paris is doing time
Unregisteredf
08-14-2007, 12:47 PM
paris....lol
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