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08-19-2004, 03:52 PM
Bulletin: NYPD can not get enough applicants to give a test for police officer. Do you wonder why?

News Item: Port Authority P.D. academy graduates 72 new police officers. 67 are former NYPD cops!

News Item: Suffolk County P.D. hires 90 new cops. 70 are former members of the NYPD.

News Item: new NYFD class of 150; over half are NYPD.

Police Commissioner Ray Kelly, do you realize that you have a problem? Are you clueless? In order to conform to federal truth in advertising laws, perhaps the new NYPD recruitment posters should read, as follows:


Earn the lowest pay, for the most dangerous police work of any police department in the tri-state area.
Be subject to petty, picayune disciplinary action, with a trial room that has a near 100% conviction rate.
Have criminals make dozens of civilian complaints against you, then have the complaints investigated by cop-hating, Democratic club hacks.¹
Become a "great white defendant" for a publicity seeking, grand-standing district attorney; have your life ruined so the D.A. can parade you around to curry favor with criminal loving minorities.
Make a good faith mistake and you and your family can become financially destroyed by paying tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees.
You'll work with bosses who will stand behind you... way, w-a-a-a-y behind you!!!
Be a good, active, honest cop and arrest criminals. Make the City safe for the law abiding public. While doing so, rack up many civilian complaints so when you get involved in a controversial case, the public can read the New York Post's story on how many civilian complaints you have (and make it read like you were guilty of every one of them!)
Watch you gutless "leaders" cower and kow-tow to political pressure groups every time; it's easier to sell out their men than try to grow a pair of balls.
Work for a bunch of ball-less eunuchs (i.e. Members of the department above the rank of Lieutenant) who are more worried about their next promotion than standing up tall and backing up their men.
Be part of a thoroughly demoralized army. Remember the motto of the new NYPD: "Don't get involved!"
If you become stupid enough to actually "get involved" and respond to a dangerous call, make sure you have another job lined up, real soon. A rich father-in-law would help!
Your bosses will give you a summons quota and make you give out chicken-crap, marginal tickets to the public. Watch your department's "experts" wonder why there are so many civilian complaints arising from these encounters.
Celebrate diversity!! The guy who burglarized your house just last year may have a locker next to you tomorrow.
Start out with a salary lower than a coffee-jerk's pay at Starbucks.
Take a bullet for millions of liberal, unappreciative citizens who hate you. (Add also, Democratic party officials).
Be villified by phony ministers who command millions of dollars of government poverty money to aid and assist criminals.
Go through six months of training, then get so disgusted that you quit and join another police department or the NYFD. Look back and watch your "leaders" scratch their heads searching for reasons for this exodus.
Be proud of your job! Stare at your silver shield and remember what it stands for, as you whip out your food stamps at the local A&P.
Enjoy the enhanced social life of an NYPD member. You will attend thousands of "going away" parties for all of the young men and women leaving the job in droves every year.
Watch with pride as your squad sergeant leaves to become a Suffolk County cop or a member of the NYFD. Remember, this type of vacancy opens up promotion slots quickly.
There are a lot of people to blame for the above state of facts. Although somewhat humorous, the seriousness of the problem is not. We can start out with:

The Democratic party - a haven for cop-haters, liberals, socialists and the party of choice for criminals. If your family bread winner is a car thief, stick-up man, drug dealer or pickpocket you would want your local Democratic politician to constantly berate and discredit the cops.


Democratic party District Attorneys - Robert Johnson (Bronx), Robert Morgenthau (Manhattan) and Charles Hynes (Kings); all of the above have sandbagged and brought bogus prosecutions against cops. They do so to get minority votes and get the kudos and back slaps from their cop-hating Democratic club friends.
NYPD promotional system - as a bone thrown to William "Boss" Tweed, all police promotions above the rank of Lieutenant remained political, even after civil service reform. Do you wonder why? Control the upper ranks, and you control the cops. This produces cowardly, gutless leaders, utterly subservient to the will of the political leaders. It is a system that is more geared to producing "Bernard Fyfes" than "Bernard Montgomerys" in the top ranks!!!
Bogus reverends, like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, who control millions of dollars in poverty money. They use the money to keep stirring up controversy. Blacks are the majority of crime victims, but the race hustler's game is to blame the cops for the victims' plights, instead of the criminals. Normal people can not picket on a Tuesday afternoon; they have jobs. But the poverty pimps can round up hundreds of their lazy, parasitic constituents to picket City Hall, Police Plaza, etc.
The New York press, even the cop friendly New York Post, can whip up anti-police sentiment with constant slanted, biased reporting. The police can not get a fair shake. Why put up with this constant negative beating when you can get another job?
Criminal court judges - how many Republicans are there out of all of the judges in the NYC court system? You can count them on one hand (maybe one finger). Do you wonder why the Diallo cops could not get a fair trial in New York City? A Democratic judge who allowed anything but a guilty verdict would have his career destroyed!
Show this to all retired cops who still have some reverence and feeling for "The Job."

Ray Kelly, please call your office. You, and all New Yorkers have a problem.

from Joe7458, presumably a (fearless) NYPD MOS.

40smith
08-20-2004, 06:22 AM
If you argue by analogy, yes they are under paid.
Remove the college credits requirement and watch how many people test.
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EX MOS
08-20-2004, 06:58 AM
Been there done that. Was the worst 7 years of my life. As@hole bosses. Sharpton details. No guaranteed RDO's. Inspection (pro-active). No personal days. No admin sick (when convenient to them). No minimum manning. Tracer units. Murder day parade. public transportation every where they send you. The public hates you. Buying your own uniforms. foot posts in the winter. The surgeon. I can go on and on. You guys deserve the world. and I hear cops on the Island complaining. We really do have it pretty good out here and I'm not talking about money, just the way we're treated. . Hopefully you guys can get a new union who has some power you'll get what you deserve.

scpd patrol
08-20-2004, 07:14 AM
I couldn't agree more!! I hope that all MOS In NYC stay safe during the Rep. Conv. Every wacko group in this country is apparently descending upon the city. I truly hope that anyone collared will be kept in the system until the Convention leaves town. Sadly, I don't have any faith in the LIBERAL JUDGES that run the courts in NYC. Every single underpaid, unrespected PO there is in jeopardy. These protestors would think nothing of harming them for their ridiculous beliefs. Orderly protest --OK. Anything else should be dealt with and put down right away. There is no better police department in the world to handle the future chaos than the NYPD. Sadly the Mayor knows this but will not pay them for the work they do, not just at the Convention, but every single day.
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SCPD
08-20-2004, 08:27 AM
thats why we complain, we dont want to end up with the supervisor problems u guys have. we see things coming and are going to fight it

HateLibs
08-20-2004, 03:31 PM
QUESTION: How many NYC cops does it take to beat up a protestor?

ANSWER: None; He tripped!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

bite it hatelibs
08-20-2004, 07:58 PM
Heard that one about 30 yrs ago, skippy. Go away, you didn't contribute anything.

EX MOS
08-21-2004, 03:22 PM
I still never understood how a union like NYC PBA 40,000 strong could be sooooo bad. They haven't won anything for the cops since I've been following (the past 10 plus years). They HAVE to have some sort of corruption going on to be that bad. Everyday I pray you guys get a great raise!

Centurion
08-21-2004, 06:38 PM
Reasons for NYPD PBA ineffectiveness:

1. Most NYPD members don't live in NYC (hence, most NYPD members and their families are not factors in NYC electoral races)
2. The minority of NYPD members that actually live in NYC are not a persuasive factor because politicians are aware that most PBA members are disinterested in their own union elections, and do not consider them worthy of pandering (check percentage of NYPD PBA members that actually vote in union elections - especially alarming when all that is required to submit a union vote is to fill in a couple of "X"es and drop a pre-stamped envelope in a mailbox).
3. Most NYPD PBA members are not willing to contribute funds for PBA PACs (which is understandable considering the salary).
Bottom line - NYC politicians don't have any reasons to care about PBA members (if you don't contribute money, and you can't affect electoral votes, you are a political non-entity).

scpd patrol
08-22-2004, 04:37 AM
Another reason for the NYCPD's PBA's ineffectiveness is partly due to it's membership belonging to so many details. Everyone wants off patrol. They look for their niche and once there are somewhat content. That makes it very hard to stick together. If all the members don't stick together, it makes it very hard for the PBA to show their strength to the Mayor and City Counsel.


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eddie
08-27-2004, 09:29 AM
The day tour people don't want to lose their "normal life" and the cushy detail people don't want to lose their positions so they do whatever their masters at 1 PP say.

This job is done! I can't wait until can leave!
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Jakes Dad
08-27-2004, 04:00 PM
What ever happened to "Skippy" at LeFrak? That guy was hilarious!!
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scpd patrol
08-28-2004, 06:25 AM
LOL thanks for reminding me of him J.D.!! I hope he's happily retired by now watching John Wayne movies and drinking a six pack!
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Ex MOS 2
08-29-2004, 09:50 AM
Altruist nonsense aside, any self respecting NYPD cop should quit- the sooner the better.

The city administration, political climate, and third world culture of New York have no regard for you, you are a political pawn used on a daily basis for what ever political whim is on tap today.

The Civilian Complaint Review Board contacted 732 protest outfits (domestic and foreign terrorist organizations) prior to the Repub Convention and advised them to be on the look out brutal cops and gave them the procedure for filing complaints. Nice to feel you are loved and embraced by your own employer.

Quit and work where you are appreciated and respected, even if that is not law enforcement and that is definately not New York City.

If you don't you can be a candidate for being their next politcal pawn, crucified by the administration; every subversive group masquerading as a public interest group (ACLU) (Lawyers Guild) (Planned Parenthood) (Rev. Al's ACTION) (NEWSDAY) (DAILY NEWS)(CBS and NBC)and the other usaul suspects.

Only when the NYPD is left with the riff-raff they have hired in the last 20 years to hold the enormous shhit bag called NY together they will realize that the corrosive effects of 30 years of liberalism has wrought destruction on a once formerly great city called NEW YORK.

40smith
08-30-2004, 01:04 PM
Does anyone know if they will remove the college restriction?
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Plunger
08-31-2004, 08:23 AM
Anyone see the recent photo of one A. Louima down in Miami chatting up a white hottie while enjoying some bubbly? It's enough to make you vomit. While abuse of perps can't be condoned, neither can the disparity between the victim and the defendant be so great as it was in this case. This mutt is now a 'paris hilton-like' celebrity and the guys who collared him are upstate mopping floors. Only in New York. I can't wait to grab my pension and see this place in my rear view mirror, and I'm not even employed by NYC.

You guys in the city deserve what you're asking for. Maybe then you can rid your ranks of the useless.

Good luck.

PatC
09-11-2004, 10:37 PM
Skippy passed away a few years ago. God Rest His Soul. Stay safe brothers.

scpd patrol
09-12-2004, 06:19 AM
Thank you for the update. May he rest in peace
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09-16-2005, 08:08 AM
Another reason for the NYCPD's PBA's ineffectiveness is partly due to it's membership belonging to so many details. Everyone wants off patrol. They look for their niche and once there are somewhat content. That makes it very hard to stick together. If all the members don't stick together, it makes it very hard for the PBA to show their strength to the Mayor and City Counsel.