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james
08-17-2004, 03:42 PM
Do the police in the Villages in Suffolk county make the same as the County or are they paid less because the job seems easier and alot safer? Anyone know? One of my neighbors is on the county list and said there were some current openings in some of the " cushy " Villages?????
NY JAG
08-18-2004, 02:09 PM
In general yes they do pay less and the depts are very small. Cant go to far up the ladder
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OnDaList
08-18-2004, 03:15 PM
If I were you I would take it NY Jag. I don't think you are going to go much further than the rank of Arrow Security Guard. There is a psychological exam for the job you know.
Completely wrong jag
the Villages in suffolk county that have police ( 17 ) pay the same or better than the county.....check the contracts...........yes there is little mobilty...........but they are mostly easy jobs..........very safe.........and the biggest hazard is boredom...................The Chiefs in those Villages have incredible deals..............
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Waiting
08-20-2004, 12:02 PM
How do the benefits differ between the county and the villages in regards to medical and dental?
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Also Waiting
08-20-2004, 12:24 PM
If your coming from another dept. , will it count towards longevity after five years? What about military time?
Benefits are the same or better.........longevity starts at 0 if you get accepted from NYC or Nassau.........
The Village contracts are incredible and you know what- the work in most of them is easy.................
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my understanding
08-20-2004, 09:07 PM
most villages pay fairly competively, was looking at norhport, believe top pay was near 85,000 2 years ago before i went to scpd.everything else is the same, same investigation,didnt have any village recruits other than2-3 southhamptons(?) in my academy class.
best part of that job is the side work you get from the residents, and i understand some areas give xmas tips. i could be wrong im obviously not working there.
Cop in my pocket
08-21-2004, 07:10 AM
doesnt concern you "clarence".
Clarence
08-22-2004, 12:31 AM
dont mean the white trash be-bopping around the streets of li. the families that tip come from money like"this is for watching the summer house while myself and the family stayed in venice for the winter". ceo types you know..maybe you dont.
their kids dont cruise in mustangs they run company types
Waiting
08-22-2004, 06:34 PM
So, benefits are comparable and longevity is out the window? What about retirement percentages and are there any other 457K type accounts that the villages deal with?
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Rookie
08-23-2004, 07:01 PM
I can tell salary is about the same couple of thousand less, benefits same or better. Starting salary is better and I hit top pay in 4 years instead of 6 years and retirement is the same as Nassau. The thing is you have to check with the village you are going for because each village PBA negotiate their own contracts.
THEY DO BUT they are all pretty close and they are in line with both counties with not the danger that the county guys face in many of the communities............Biggest danger is boredom, overweight from dunkin donuts or having to marry the owners daughter at 7 11.
maximizz91
08-24-2004, 07:43 AM
This is just informational for those of the readers who don't already know how village hiring works.
Some village pd have a 25 year retirement package IE: lynbrook. Most village pd are 4 steps to top pay and most are between 95 -114k. Not allot of movement even in some of the bigger village dept. In addition allot have a village preference to be hired first before they hire someone from outside there village IE: Freeport, so if you get a 80 on the ncpd test and a village pd needs to hire they must take the highest score on the village list first rather than the top score on the county list . After they exhaust there village list then they go outside to the top of county list. Also a few village pd dept's will take a lateral transfer from police another agency( ie NYPD) and won't have to enter a police academy again. The reason for this is to save some money and it gets cops out on the street faster hence another reason for the 1 in 3 choice for the hiring process. So for all the people who don't want to go to the nypd first, bad mistake, so long as you score well on a test you will eventually get called for at least one other police dept... somewhere. Plus in NYS all your time will count up front IE: 5 yrs NYPD 15 yrs to go to retirement for a agency w/ a 20 yr plan.
I'm not sure of all the L.I. village residential requirement PD Dept's but I can probably find out or maybe someone will point it out on this thread
Hope this helps for all those who are curious about starting there careers.
Stay safe maxi
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NYDIESEL
08-24-2004, 08:05 AM
maxi.... say i did 5 yrs in the NYPD..... does that mean i dont start at the begining of the pay scale with NCPD? or that time is only used for retirement purposes... thanx!
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just retirement..........does not count for the pay....or for longevity.............
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maximizz91
08-24-2004, 09:26 AM
Longevity counts in NCPD from NYPD only ( no other agency does this to my knowledge ) so long as you have 5 yrs from the NYPD ( 5 yrs or 6th step in NYPD is when longevity starts there. Not sure if it counts if you have 5 or more yrs combined from from 2 other LEO agencys. IE: 2 yrs NYPD 3 yrs MTA. I believe they (NCPD) does this so that the NYPD guys who roll over w/ 5 yrs or more have a little something more in pay/ incentive being they start at 23k and believe it or not they do want people w/ police experience but don't quote on it.
Jack was right your time will count for your retirement only up front. If you work for another municipality that contributes to the NYSLRS non police /firefighter than that time will count at the end of your retirement IE: 3yrs Town of Hempstead Building Dept 20 yrs NYPD MTA and NCPD combined you are credited w/ 23 yrs of service to NYSLRSPF ( New York State Local Retirement system for Police and Firefighters, I think thats the correct acronym ) Any other questions just ask if I can answer to the best of my knowledge I will or will make a strong attempt to find out for you
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Waiting
08-24-2004, 02:05 PM
Are the villages of Nassau and Suffolk on the same level (regarding salary and benefits) or does the county the village is located in dictate anything?
Are you in a village in Nassau or Suffolk?
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maximizz91
08-24-2004, 02:49 PM
Almost all villages are at a higher base salary then NCPD/SCPD
from starting step to top step (generally there will be 4 steps to top pay although some villages have a different pay step program) Benefits are similar to the county's but all negotiate there own contract and there ability to pay w/ the villages they serve in. IE: when a village decides to hire new cops at first step salary they may offer a buyout package to senior officers w/more then 20 yrs or for those who have long been over do to retire. One 20+ yr police officer could be 1-3 new police officers w/ smaller benefit's to start out with. In other words these buyout packeages account for all their unused sick, personal, and accumalative retierment day's and may I add that this may be a HUGE package. Not to long ago a certain village had a buyout package to a bunch of cops and each cop recieved about 100k.
Alright enough talking on my part. Hope this helps.
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maximizz91
08-24-2004, 02:50 PM
accumulative ( sorry I missed spelled accumulative)
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Waiting
08-24-2004, 02:57 PM
Maxi -
Thanks for the heads up.
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wannabe
08-27-2004, 06:51 AM
If you had the choice, would it be Village police or County police?
maximizz91
08-27-2004, 01:56 PM
County-more movement. Villages are more community oriented. Pull over the wrong person/ or write a ticket you may get a ear full and belittled not only in front of your colleges but in front of the person you stopped. I mean absolutely no disrespect to any village cop here. Villages are not a bad gig, they pay more and if you can stand the same old thing than take it. Hempstead/Freeport are the closest you would get action every nite.
If you scored high take the county. If your score is lets say around 82 for argument sake and your village has a residency law for police or you just get called take the village pd. There is always that small talk that the county "might" someday absorb some or all village pd. probably won't happen though.
hope this little bit of info helps.
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Corky
08-27-2004, 08:03 PM
As for stopping/writing the locals, those days of that being frowned on are pretty much a thing of the past. Sure, if you're working in the same neighborhood for 20 years, it may be hard to hammer everyone who lives there. Discretion is used, but village cops do not get walked on. The Department domestic violence policies also helped the blue bloods north of 25A understand that Village cops are no less than any other agency when it comes to enforcing the law; you can't take a ride to the yacht club to cool off anymore. It also helps that a large number of village cops have gladly turned in their 5 digit shield for a 2-3 digit shield. There's a lot of experience riding around in local RMP's. 20 plus years ago, village cops might have been considered 2nd class by some -today, my experience shows them to be 1st class. Many of them were hired off the top of the list by villages when the County was defending lawsuits - unable to hire for years at a time. If most had a choice, I believe they would choose the county job for the possibilities of advancement and diverse assignments. But the village jobs are by in large equal to the county in the benefit packages offered.
spanky
08-28-2004, 01:36 PM
and most, I say most, are alot easier and safer........
officer safety
09-12-2004, 06:12 AM
for the most part yes still be careful
Waiting
09-14-2004, 03:08 PM
Can anyone advise if there are two eligible lists? (i.e. one for the county and one for a town)
If there are two, does any kind of declination have to be signed on either one at a certain time?
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diceman38
09-14-2004, 05:45 PM
there is just 1 list and the villages take people off the list as they need them.
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Waiting
09-24-2004, 07:19 AM
Will a village you interviewed for inform you if you weren't selected? If you are selected to swear in, how much time do they give you to resign from your present employer (i.e. 2 weeks)?
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wannabe
09-24-2004, 07:21 AM
You aren't getting called unless you know someone. Don't count on notification either way.
curious
09-24-2004, 02:44 PM
Have any of the Suffolk County Towns or Villages begun thier interview process?
How long does that take?
Will this delay the academy class for the county?
Does anyone know when the next class is scheduled for?
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FatBoy
09-28-2004, 07:47 AM
If you are selected for a town, do you have to go to the academy?
Waiting
09-28-2004, 02:25 PM
Has anyone out there been interviewed for a town or village in Suffolk County?
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Not Sure
10-06-2004, 05:58 AM
as far as i know yes you do ,maybe some have set up for priortimers
I understand that the Village of Huntington Bay is interviewing and the Town of SOuthhold is too.
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10-06-2004, 09:12 AM
Have you been to either of those Departments for an interview?
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10-06-2004, 10:54 AM
Was he hired? Does he have to go to the academy?
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He is expecting an offer. He is currently in the NYPD
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curious
10-07-2004, 02:35 PM
Did they give him a time frame for the offer or let him know he has to go to the academy?
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Waiting
10-13-2004, 09:10 AM
Has anyone out there who interviewed for a town or village been offered a position with that department yet?
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2Hrd2Hld
10-19-2004, 01:14 PM
Anyone out there been contacted by the Town of Southampton in reguards to an interview? Anyone know the starting salary?
wannabe
10-20-2004, 08:01 AM
They called and said they were hiring within the next two weeks. I don't know the start salary.
Maxi,
I have been teaching for several years, and I am considering a career change, possibly becoming a Suffolk Cop. Will my few years of contributing to the state retirement system be subtracted from the end if I were to become a police officer?
LI cop
10-30-2004, 04:45 PM
You're time will be added at the back end after you have completed the 20 years.
SCPD84
10-30-2004, 06:05 PM
Hey Mick,
I am a teacher also and I am on the SCPD list. Do you teach on the Island or in the City? I am on the island in one of the best districts! I have been driving myself nuts with the idea of a career change. I am so afraid of taking the time off from work and not getting SCPD and jeapordizing my current job.
Just out of curiosity, what made you decide to leave teaching?
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bailiff
10-30-2004, 06:16 PM
Non-police time does not count at all for SCPD. Believe me, I've investigated it extensively. If you're vested as a teacher. You will draw 2 pensions. Hopefully there will be legislation in the future to change this.
Teaching with summers off won't count for PD time bro.
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skibum
11-05-2004, 01:52 PM
Kiss my ass, I am one of those 'rich kids.' I don't always have drugs on me, I don't even do drugs, I also never drive drunk. If I get pulled over by a REAL police officer (village, town, County or State), not a Peace Officer (PJ, Islip, Brookhaven), I am always very respectful, not because I have a future, but because it is the right thing to do. You shouldn't assume that because we work hard enough to live in those villages that we are always doing something illegal. I respect people with authority, which Police Officers have, and I always will. If you are a Peace Officer and pull me over on a power trip because I was young and driving 5mph over the speed limit, then don't expect me to be respectful.
Relax
11-05-2004, 06:06 PM
Where the hell did this guy come from????????????
hohpo
11-06-2004, 02:30 PM
Well then, looks like you are a tough guy!!!! Hey guys (and gals) this idiot gives you that reason to pick up a GALLS book and get those new skell gloves, because it looks like hes going to get locked up real soon. SKIBUM: I dare you to be disrespectful to one of these town/village officers. Your a real tough guy behind your computer!!!!! Have a nice day beeatch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not tough
11-06-2004, 02:47 PM
whats really sad, hes answering a post from the 1st page, from august!!! wow i dont think tough refers to his personality just the skin covering his little itty bitty brain
Village Officer
11-28-2004, 09:59 PM
Listen, you little prick. Give me one good reason to pull your little ass over. We'll see what happens when you give lip to a "peace officer"
NYCPO
11-29-2004, 03:02 AM
Damn, you go boy!! Skibum knows better than to shoot his mouth off anymore.
blue boy
12-05-2004, 08:12 PM
the county did absorb departments in suffolk years ago they had to sign a charter.that was giving up their police powers. i think some towns are throwing themselves around as constables.
New Writer
12-06-2004, 02:30 PM
Hey Jack-Off,
The only reason you are a Village Officer/Constable is because you couldn't pass the test. I'm talking about Patchogue,Brookhaven and other villages that gave up their rights to having a police force. So if you are one of those jack-off, you are on a power trip and I dare you to try and pull me over.
Gatekeeper
12-14-2004, 10:50 PM
Are you sure that Mick's teacher time doesn't count on the end of the police 20 year retirement. I was under the impression that it did.
Retiree
12-19-2004, 04:52 PM
The only 20 yr plan that Mick's time would count on is the dep. sheriff retirement plan. Any time in the ERS counts as 1/60 after you complete 20 yrs of service as a dep. sheriff. It does not count up front only at the end.
blaze of glory
12-21-2004, 11:19 PM
im on westchester pd live in nassau i strarted getting letters 4 the villages herd old brookville is sending out letters how is that job what is pay what chart is there overtime what are the best villages out there any info will help
The Anti Creep
12-22-2004, 04:09 AM
Hey creep-o. You need a HS diploma first so I am not sure you would qualify
Wondering
12-22-2004, 08:15 PM
are they real police?do I have to stop or are they the same as patchougue?
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hohpd
12-22-2004, 08:18 PM
no, you do not have to stop, they are all losers, I didnt stop when they tried to pull me over and they launched some sort of missle at my car, now all i can do is sit in bed and type with a pencil in my mouth!!!!
JamDat
12-22-2004, 10:55 PM
I was driving through HOH the other day when one of their guys pulled me over, pistol whipped me, stole my girl and her dog, gave me 4 flats and siphoned the gas out of my car !!!
rivkin
12-23-2004, 12:39 AM
Quote:I was driving through HOH the other day when one of their guys pulled me over, pistol whipped me, stole my girl and her dog, gave me 4 flats and siphoned the gas out of my car !!!
Sounds like he cut you a break.
JamDat
12-23-2004, 04:08 PM
Yeah but my question is will this go on my license?
Rumplestilskin
12-23-2004, 11:29 PM
Re: "Head of the harbor - are they real police?do I have to stop or are they the same as patchougue?"
Yes Virginia. Sorry, but they're actual Police Officers, the same as Northport P.D., Southampton, etc.
Not fakes like Old Field, Port Jeff, etc.
Check with Suffolk County Civil Service if you need to verify this. They'll tell you - HOH is the full magilla.
lexordo
12-25-2004, 06:23 AM
Old Brookville is a good job, just not too busy. Let me correct myself, not too much crime but a lot of service oriented calls; Good money, though. Went to some training w/an OBPD guys a few years ago and he loved it.
Old Westbury is good money and job resource wise, but boring. Same for Port Washington, Lake Success, and Sands Point.
Hempstead is busy and good pay, top out in 4 years. Lots of details to get lost in there, but the Chief will retire soon and w/the racial politics ready to take a firm grasp many say the job is going down hill. Rockville Centre is also good. Not sure about Lynbrook or Freeport.
Good Luck.
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louie
12-25-2004, 11:05 AM
Old brookville not too busy?
You mean not busy at all!!!!!!!
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funny
12-25-2004, 11:12 AM
right louie, how k-mart?
you got nothing better to do on xmas than rip a pd job apart?
santa didnt bring you any power rangers?
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Santa Claus
12-25-2004, 11:27 AM
no power rangers you have to be at least 5, sorry louie maybe next year
love santa
ps; im proud you were such a good boy and stopped wetting the bed
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grinch
12-25-2004, 11:58 AM
yeah its funny i thought i seen louie sitting om santa's lap at the smithhaven mall, he was there a long time,wasnt talking or anything, just sitting on his lap, santa looked happy too
dr seuss
12-25-2004, 02:18 PM
lets sit here and talk about the 1st thing that pops up
tuckahoe tom
12-25-2004, 07:24 PM
Old Brookville is a great job if you luv licking the butts of the people that pay you. Cops in OB are nothing more than man-servants and bootlickers to people with discretionary income.
Crazy
12-26-2004, 08:48 AM
are those guys real cops?
they carry guns and write tickets
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