Bad Cop, Worse Cop? Nassau Officers Sued for Excessive Force

[firethebum]

With a clean-shaven head topping broad shoulders, there is little doubt that Anthony Raymond, a veteran Nassau County police officer, could easily defend himself. His muscles are apparent, even under a suit. Now Raymond indeed has to defend himself, but his muscles won't help.

He and another Nassau County cop, Gregory Martin, along with the county, are being sued for $50 million for the alleged use of excessive force during a 1998 arrest. The incident ignited when 21-year-old Joseph V. Spagna III of Valley Stream allegedly called Raymond "Baldy."

On Apr. 10, 1998, Raymond and Martin arrested Spagna for allegedly slashing his neighbor's tires. During the arrest, Spagna claims he was beaten, kicked and thrown down the staircase of his father's Valley Stream house. When Spagna was booked at the 5th Precinct, he says he was ordered by Raymond and Martin to strip. The two officers then allegedly laughed at Spagna when it appeared their rough treatment had caused him to defecate in his pants. The incident left Spagna with a broken nose and a lacerated scalp.

While none of Spagna's physical injuries persist today, he claims he still suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder. "I can't erase what happened to me that night," he says.

For the bare-headed Raymond, this trial marks the second time in two years that his on-duty actions have led to litigation. In December 1995, Raymond fatally shot Elmont resident Christopher Wade, 28. A parolee at the time of his death, Wade was being frisked by Raymond in Elmont when their mortal gun battle broke out. Even though Raymond emptied one gun clip and fired two more shots into Wade's prone body, the Nassau County Police Department concluded the shooting did not violate any of its procedures. A criminal grand jury also cleared Raymond of any wrongdoing. In 2001, a civil jury wasn't as forgiving. In a lawsuit argued by civil rights attorney Frederick K. Brewington, jurors ordered Raymond and Nassau County to pay Wade's family $2.25 million.

In the latest case, Spagna was eventually charged with three crimes, but none related to the tire-slashing. Two counts alleged he assaulted the officers during his arrest, and a third alleged that he tried to steal Raymond's service pistol during their tussle. A grand jury cleared Spagna of all charges.

"What they did to this young man is totally reprehensible. I cannot believe that a just society will allow their actions to go unpunished," says Brewington, who has joined in the civil case alongside Spagna's original attorney, Joel Sunshine. Sunshine is glad to have the company.

"Nobody is a better expert in civil rights law than Fred," says Sunshine.

Together, Spagna's attorneys are arguing that Raymond and Martin not only used excessive force, but that they violated Spagna's civil rights. The county disagrees. "Nobody is denying force was used here," says Charles H. Horn, the defense attorney representing Raymond, Martin and Nassau County. "The question for the jury to answer is: Was it excessive?"

To the dismay of the defendants, Magistrate Judge William Wall has already decided to allow testimony regarding Raymond's fatal 1995 shooting.

"This is an attempt at character assassination. They want to tell the jury, 'He did it once so he probably did it again,'" Horn argued in vain.

But there is evidence that will damage the plaintiff's case, too, most notably testimony about Spagna's condition that fateful night. In his opening remarks, Horn argued before the jury of five men and three women that Spagna not only admitted to drinking, but "in his own words, Mr. Spagna said he drank a few beers and smoked a couple of joints. The guy was loaded." The Long Island Press examined police records that Spagna filled out the morning after the incident, in which he admitted to "drinking half a bottle of whisky" that night. Sunshine responds: "Regardless of how much my client drank, police officers are trained to handle all levels of intoxication."

Sunshine and Brewington argue that not only are Raymond and Martin responsible for the attack, but so is the Nassau County Police Department. The attorneys contend that Raymond never should have been hired. Wall is allowing evidence of numerous complaints filed against Raymond while he was a New York City cop, before he joined the Nassau police force in 1994. "Raymond had complaints up the wazoo," says Brewington.

According to records from New York City's Civilian Complaint Review Board, obtained exclusively by the Long Island Press, 26 separate complaints, stemming from 10 cases, were filed against Raymond between 1986 and 1992. "If an officer has 10 cases of complaints against him in seven years, that's something of real concern," says Raymond Patterson, director of communications for the Review Board. Raymond has also been the subject of 20 complaints since becoming a Nassau police officer, while Martin has been the subject of seven complaints.

The defense did score one small victory, when Wall disallowed testimony about the time Raymond stole $250 from a Garden City gas station he worked at when he was 18 years old. Raymond listed the robbery on his applications to both the New York City and Nassau County police departments. "These youthful indiscretions are ancient history," Wall said, in response to Brewington's motion to include the information.

"I can't respond to any of these questions because the case is still in litigation," says Lieutenant Kevin Smith of the NCPD public affairs office. But, Smith points out, Raymond has received 17 commendations for "excellent duty" since joining Nassau's police force. Martin has been awarded five commendations.

Sunshine says he does not relish having to argue a case that paints police officers in a bad light, and he is less concerned with how much money the jury awards than with the issue of possible rogue cops. "Christopher Wade is dead and Joe was brutalized," he says. "Most cops are good and that's all the more reason to go after bad cops. Officers like Raymond should be removed from the force so they don't tarnish the reputation of those cops who are trying to help society."

[....should never have hir]

oh well, looks like your tax dollars will be going to these skells.
mr. wades family is set for life? looks like he did the right thing, if he was alive, he'd be upstate for whatever he decided to do next.and his 12 kids would be roaming the streets of elmont, now they'll be living up in syosset with all of the nice people up there. see how much they like the wades now
wade had a gun, so he go shot, all of you would have done the same. a bunch of complaints working the lovely streets of nycity, elmont thats shocking?
sounds like po raymond is perfect for his sector

[pay him]

I wish this cop patroled my area. I know I wouldn't have any run ins with him. Why? cause I'm not a filthy animal who is going to disrespect the cops. I 'm sure anyone reading this won't either. I actually saw a cop get a complaint last week that was totally fabricated. 100%. I saw it with my own eyes. Just take a look at the people that end up in these situations. Rodney King? What a piece of sh@@! Officer "baldy" we need more cops like you and less that park behind a building reading the newspaper and drinking coffee until the radio calls them!

[Blueman Group]

The two officers then allegedly laughed at Spagna when it appeared their rough treatment had caused him to defecate in his pants. The incident left Spagna with a broken nose and a lacerated scalp.

While none of Spagna's physical injuries persist today, he claims he still suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder. "I can't erase what happened to me that night," he says. Try changing your underwear crybaby.

Maybe next time you won't challenge a law enforcement officer and resist arrest.

[hornet]

this is all old news; someone is merely trying to stir the pot. The verdict came back months ago. Spagna got nothing. In regards to the first trial, had the officers' prior acts, which had nothing to do with the case in question not been introduced, there would likely have been no judgement either.....

[money for nothing]

on this bored? thats shocking.someone empty their mag in here. put it out of its misery.
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[Svorkin]

‘The hiring and supervision of Police Officer Raymond was improper,’ Mr. Mamet wrote in April 1999. ‘It is my opinion that N.C.P.D. failed to seize a unique opportunity to weed out a `violence prone' recruit.’

Nuff Said!

[Stop the presses]

ok "svorkin".mamet was a expert hired by the comp. lawyer, what else is he going to say?

[weed eater]

this is what an expert costs you....

Usual and customary fee:
INITIAL CONSULTATION AND EVALUATION: $200.00 PER HOUR To determine the merits of case on preliminary review of available material. Hourly rate applies for in person consultations.
REPORTS: $200.00 PER HOUR Site inspection, investigation, research, review of reports, depositions grand jury transcripts and report writing.
DEPOSITIONS AND TRIALS: $2000.00 PER DAY/PART Fee including travel time to be paid at the time of deposition or trial. **If scheduled deposition or trial is cancelled and notification is not made at least forty-eight hours in advance, it is understood that a $400.00 fee will be invoiced. Deposition may be conducted in New York City to avoid travel time (portal to portal).
CONSULTING: $200.00 PER HOUR Assistance with trial preparation and general security matters.
TRAVEL:Round trip advanced, prepaid, business class is required on all flights out of the major airports in the New York City area unless written authorization is given to expend funds on behalf of client. Lodging, meals, ground transportation and other miscellaneous expenses that are necessary and reasonable will be invoiced and payable within ten business days. Use of private vehicle will be invoiced at forty-five cents per mile.
ASSOCIATED EXPENSES Police reports or prior incidents (if available), telephone calls, tolls, express mail, fax and other confidential sources of information, if any, will be invoiced.

[Reality]

Fred Brewington is a wannabe Johnny Cochran, and we all know how Johnny made his millions. The OJ trial was a good example of how truth and justice can be perverted by attorneys seeking fame and fortune. Truth doesn't seem to matter in the world of lawyers, and I could be wrong, but I don't think Mr. Brewington is any different.

[mamet has spoken]

what are you saying? because the guy charges fairly normal fees, that hes more right? anyone whos ever testified knows, if you aint saying what they want they aint using you. ive been interviewed pretrial because the da felt i may have just arrested to cover my butt because there was a o/p involved. felt my arresting deposition leaned that way. with that info, allowed the perp to plead out.
by the way who paid his bill? if its criminal trial we the tax payers, not way a lowlife like wade is paying ha!

[ChattiPatti]

No. Theres lots of them out there. Some are guinea pigs (no pun intended) for the higher ups. As God as my witness this is all true.

I don't want to bore you with my story. Im 52 and a homewoner for 28 years. Everything fine & dandy. Typical teenage headahces. Until....Justo Rivera a repeat offender with a rap sheet you would not believe, shows up on my porch after my then 19 yr old daughter called 911 claiming I hit here. P.S. she doesn't live home anymore.

Anyway. Justo Rivera and his accomplice claim I resisted, Id love the chance to take a lie dedtector test but ya know IAB claims it s not necessary. So arrested me for what he claimed was resisting arrest in my home 5 years ago. Dragged me out like a dead deer in front of my son who was 16 at the time. Calling my son derogatory remarks, and me a c@unt & whore while on the joy ride to pct. At the pct Justo Rivera grabs his crotch & gestures to me. And yea I forgot alot of what happened until the rigged trial we just had which the county won after lying and cheating. (TYMWwhataman!!)

Did I mention I had excellant credit back then? And yes a full time job too. Now I've gone thru numerous jobs and have bottomed out in the credit dept but hell its all material. I WANT JUSTICE.

This officer who's bene arrested, then unarrested for RAPE (you read that right) the woman dropped the charges due to the harrasment & stalking. He stalked another woman from a bar, dragged her form her car for stopping too long at a strop sign and put her face to the road wioth a gun to her head. Oh yea he was off duty and had been drinking.

DID I MENTION HE FAILED 2 PSYCH EXAMS AND HAD TO SUE IN ORDER TO BECOME A COP. (I read all of this in his VILOENT CRIMINAL HISTORY provided to my atty by IAB)

Oh yea he beat his stepson so severly he was arrested for CORPORAL PUNISHMENT ON A CHILD. Poor kid.

Then he gets exonerated for beating his step brother whiel he was being detained in the pct.

He was chasing a suspect at a high speed persuit when the suspect hit & killed a kid on a bicycle.

So much for SERVING & PROTECTING.

Now in another thread these CORRUPT BULLIES are claiming JUSTO RIVERA HAS BEEN PROMOTED TO LIEUTENANT (excuse the spelling).

JUSTO, JUST HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THIS WILL LAST?

DON'T YOU SEE WHAT GOD IS TELLING YOU ALL? HE IS CHOSING YOUR INNOCENT BROTHERS BECAUSE MANY OF YOU ARE ABUSING YOUR POWER.

PLEASE STOP THE VIOLENCE AND BULLYING.

GOD HAS THE HIGHER POWER.

(even though some LEO at the beach last week was calling out and poking fun of the God thing)


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[ChattiPatti]

Justo Rivera has been cited in my neighborhood too. Guess he hasn't learned his lessons and won't be Lt for long.

So shoot me what can I say. Gotta get the LED OUT.
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[pattiperp]

wahwah violent cops for violent perps, u mention u assaulted ur daughter, resisted arrest? found guilty,guilty guilty. ur a convicted child beater

[ChattiPatti]

"u mention u assaulted ur daughter" "found guilty,guilty guilty"

LOL, I mentioned whaaaa??? GET YOUR STORIES STRAIGHT STUPID. And they give you a gun???

AT LEAST I USE MY NAME YOU COWARD P@SSY.
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[pattiperp]

so u use your name. im just a few clicks above u on the i/q scale.

[ChattiPatti]

Who cares? Give yourself a pat on the back because its obvious your looking for validation here cause you ain't gettin it anywhere else
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[validation, im impressed]

i yused that book with al the woirds

[ChattiPatti]

Sheet that aint nothing. Justo Rivera lost his gun in a Brentwood parking lot. This way some kid can kill his brother, then the PD woudl look the other way and DENY DENY DENY:">


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[ChattiPatti]

"i'm glad i keep my life/family life in order "

Never know whats up ahead....
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[ChattiPatti]

every once in a while tis ok to whup ur kids
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With a clean-shaven head topping broad shoulders, there is little doubt that Anthony Raymond, a veteran Nassau County police officer, could easily defend himself. His muscles are apparent, even under a suit. Now Raymond indeed has to defend himself, but his muscles won't help.

He and another Nassau County cop, Gregory Martin, along with the county, are being sued for $50 million for the alleged use of excessive force during a 1998 arrest. The incident ignited when 21-year-old Joseph V. Spagna III of Valley Stream allegedly called Raymond "Baldy."

On Apr. 10, 1998, Raymond and Martin arrested Spagna for allegedly slashing his neighbor's tires. During the arrest, Spagna claims he was beaten, kicked and thrown down the staircase of his father's Valley Stream house. When Spagna was booked at the 5th Precinct, he says he was ordered by Raymond and Martin to strip. The two officers then allegedly laughed at Spagna when it appeared their rough treatment had caused him to defecate in his pants. The incident left Spagna with a broken nose and a lacerated scalp.

While none of Spagna's physical injuries persist today, he claims he still suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder. "I can't erase what happened to me that night," he says.

For the bare-headed Raymond, this trial marks the second time in two years that his on-duty actions have led to litigation. In December 1995, Raymond fatally shot Elmont resident Christopher Wade, 28. A parolee at the time of his death, Wade was being frisked by Raymond in Elmont when their mortal gun battle broke out. Even though Raymond emptied one gun clip and fired two more shots into Wade's prone body, the Nassau County Police Department concluded the shooting did not violate any of its procedures. A criminal grand jury also cleared Raymond of any wrongdoing. In 2001, a civil jury wasn't as forgiving. In a lawsuit argued by civil rights attorney Frederick K. Brewington, jurors ordered Raymond and Nassau County to pay Wade's family $2.25 million.

In the latest case, Spagna was eventually charged with three crimes, but none related to the tire-slashing. Two counts alleged he assaulted the officers during his arrest, and a third alleged that he tried to steal Raymond's service pistol during their tussle. A grand jury cleared Spagna of all charges.

"What they did to this young man is totally reprehensible. I cannot believe that a just society will allow their actions to go unpunished," says Brewington, who has joined in the civil case alongside Spagna's original attorney, Joel Sunshine. Sunshine is glad to have the company.

"Nobody is a better expert in civil rights law than Fred," says Sunshine.

Together, Spagna's attorneys are arguing that Raymond and Martin not only used excessive force, but that they violated Spagna's civil rights. The county disagrees. "Nobody is denying force was used here," says Charles H. Horn, the defense attorney representing Raymond, Martin and Nassau County. "The question for the jury to answer is: Was it excessive?"

To the dismay of the defendants, Magistrate Judge William Wall has already decided to allow testimony regarding Raymond's fatal 1995 shooting.

"This is an attempt at character assassination. They want to tell the jury, 'He did it once so he probably did it again,'" Horn argued in vain.

But there is evidence that will damage the plaintiff's case, too, most notably testimony about Spagna's condition that fateful night. In his opening remarks, Horn argued before the jury of five men and three women that Spagna not only admitted to drinking, but "in his own words, Mr. Spagna said he drank a few beers and smoked a couple of joints. The guy was loaded." The Long Island Press examined police records that Spagna filled out the morning after the incident, in which he admitted to "drinking half a bottle of whisky" that night. Sunshine responds: "Regardless of how much my client drank, police officers are trained to handle all levels of intoxication."

Sunshine and Brewington argue that not only are Raymond and Martin responsible for the attack, but so is the Nassau County Police Department. The attorneys contend that Raymond never should have been hired. Wall is allowing evidence of numerous complaints filed against Raymond while he was a New York City cop, before he joined the Nassau police force in 1994. "Raymond had complaints up the wazoo," says Brewington.

According to records from New York City's Civilian Complaint Review Board, obtained exclusively by the Long Island Press, 26 separate complaints, stemming from 10 cases, were filed against Raymond between 1986 and 1992. "If an officer has 10 cases of complaints against him in seven years, that's something of real concern," says Raymond Patterson, director of communications for the Review Board. Raymond has also been the subject of 20 complaints since becoming a Nassau police officer, while Martin has been the subject of seven complaints.

The defense did score one small victory, when Wall disallowed testimony about the time Raymond stole $250 from a Garden City gas station he worked at when he was 18 years old. Raymond listed the robbery on his applications to both the New York City and Nassau County police departments. "These youthful indiscretions are ancient history," Wall said, in response to Brewington's motion to include the information.

"I can't respond to any of these questions because the case is still in litigation," says Lieutenant Kevin Smith of the NCPD public affairs office. But, Smith points out, Raymond has received 17 commendations for "excellent duty" since joining Nassau's police force. Martin has been awarded five commendations.

Sunshine says he does not relish having to argue a case that paints police officers in a bad light, and he is less concerned with how much money the jury awards than with the issue of possible rogue cops. "Christopher Wade is dead and Joe was brutalized," he says. "Most cops are good and that's all the more reason to go after bad cops. Officers like Raymond should be removed from the force so they don't tarnish the reputation of those cops who are trying to help society."


I know for a fact this officer's anger is not directly related to steroid use.

the bottom line is this, cops are just one tiny notch above the perps they arrest. When civil service police exams are engineered to hire "dumb" people (as proved by the justice department of the United States) what do you expect? They are basically morons who have no foresight or intelligence to make it in the real world. Unfortunately, we as taxpayers have to fund these buffoons.

the bottom line is this, cops are just one tiny notch above the perps they arrest. When civil service police exams are engineered to hire "dumb" people (as proved by the justice department of the United States) what do you expect? They are basically morons who have no foresight or intelligence to make it in the real world. Unfortunately, we as taxpayers have to fund these buffoons.
Hey werent you a cop who got arrested, therefore being the lowest of the low? No wonder you are up at 0300 dragging dead topics up for attention, troll

[quote=firethebum]


December 1995, Raymond fatally shot Elmont resident Christopher Wade, 28. A parolee at the time of his death, Wade was being frisked by Raymond in Elmont when their mortal gun battle broke out. Even though Raymond emptied one gun clip and fired two more shots into Wade's prone body, the Nassau County Police Department concluded the shooting did not violate any of its procedures. A criminal grand jury also cleared Raymond of any wrongdoing. In 2001, a civil jury wasn't as forgiving. In a lawsuit argued by civil rights attorney Frederick K. Brewington, jurors ordered Raymond and Nassau County to pay Wade's family $2.25 million.
Let's examine this. A parolee was in possession of a firemarm, a Felony in and of itself, a crime that will automatically violate his parole and send him back upstate. In addition, the NCPD/NC DA's office found no wrongdoing on Officer Raymond's part because...the ammunition the NCPD issued back then was "ball" ammunition. Ball ammunition is usefull for target practice on paper targets and nothing else. The Medical Examiner found that one of the first shots fired by officer Raymond struck THE FELON decedent in a nerve in his arm. The end result is that the weapon the FELON clutched in his hand stayed in his hand from having the nerve "activated" by being severered by the ball ammunition that officer Raymond was issued by the NCPD. NCPD/NYPD/SCPD/NYSP/FBI etc. are trained to keep firing until the threat complies and stops moving with a weapon in their hand. The FELON kept moving with a gun in his hand and officer Raymond followed his training, in that he kept firing. Guess what the NCPD has done since that incident? NCPD has issued hollow point ammunition which is designed to more quickly incapacitate a subject than ball, a.k.a. target ammunition is. Guess what the new hollow points are called? The "Raymond" round. Raymond followed his training and did his job the way he was supposed to regardless of what some delusional jury was led to believe.



To the dismay of the defendants, Magistrate Judge William Wall has already decided to allow testimony regarding Raymond's fatal 1995 shooting.

"This is an attempt at character assassination. They want to tell the jury, 'He did it once so he probably did it again,'" Horn argued in vain.

But there is evidence that will damage the plaintiff's case, too, most notably testimony about Spagna's condition that fateful night. In his opening remarks, Horn argued before the jury of five men and three women that Spagna not only admitted to drinking, but "in his own words, Mr. Spagna said he drank a few beers and smoked a couple of joints. The guy was loaded." The Long Island Press examined police records that Spagna filled out the morning after the incident, in which he admitted to "drinking half a bottle of whisky" that night. Sunshine responds: "Regardless of how much my client drank, police officers are trained to handle all levels of intoxication."

Sunshine and Brewington argue that not only are Raymond and Martin responsible for the attack, but so is the Nassau County Police Department. The attorneys contend that Raymond never should have been hired. Wall is allowing evidence of numerous complaints filed against Raymond while he was a New York City cop, before he joined the Nassau police force in 1994. "Raymond had complaints up the wazoo," says Brewington. Hmmmmm I don't care if he had 10,000 complaints against him, the question is whether or not the complaints were founded. If they weren't founded, they aren't worth the paper they were printed on.

Guess which officers don't get complaints? The ones who are hiding and not doing their job. If you are an active officer like Tony Raymond, you will receive complaints. I worked next to Tony in the 102, I know about his character and his professionalism. If you don't like the fact that he is engaging drunk/high violent felons who possess firearms that endanger the public too bad. I think a better indication of officer Raymond's character and fitness should be based on the numerous arrests and commendations in which the perp complied and no untoward effect befell them.

The defense did score one small victory, when Wall disallowed testimony about the time Raymond stole $250 from a Garden City gas station he worked at when he was 18 years old. Raymond listed the robbery on his applications to both the New York City and Nassau County police departments. "These youthful indiscretions are ancient history," Wall said, in response to Brewington's motion to include the information. Ignorant layman reporter, if he stole the money as you say, it was a larceny and a petit larceny at that, don't characterize it as a robbery if it wasn't. By the way, good job tainting the jury pool by publishing this you scumbag. Thanks for articulating why this case needs and deserves a change of venue up to lets say Albany County. Good job DICK.

Raymond has received 17 commendations for "excellent duty" since joining Nassau's police force. Martin has been awarded five commendations.




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NOT GUILTY !!! ChattiPatti, you ARE a crackhead who's in serious need to a trip to CPEP.

the bottom line is this, cops are just one tiny notch above the perps they arrest. When civil service police exams are engineered to hire "dumb" people (as proved by the justice department of the United States) what do you expect? They are basically morons who have no foresight or intelligence to make it in the real world. Unfortunately, we as taxpayers have to fund these buffoons.

Mad because you got a cell phone summons and the cop wouldn't honor your 1993 PBA card? You are just a mental midget who has no idea what is involved in being hired and working as a cop. " Fund these buffoons"? what are we homeless people? we are working performing a service for our salary, why don't you go back to the teacher's lounge and think about next years summer vacation.

let him cry aint pisssh*t he can do about it. Let him call us stupid, as we cross the 120k mark with investment portfolio better than my lawyer brother in law struggling to keep his home in freakin Levittown, as I go put a downpayment on his and her shelby and gt stangs(my wife is getting the gt).
Cry a river, just keep working and paying taxes.My thanks sir :lol:

You forgot to mention the benefits, no summons, 60-70k pension for life with full medical.
I agree call me a perp or a pig, make donut jokes, just go to work and pay your county taxes,mr notch above a perp

[Guesswho]

let him cry aint pisssh*t he can do about it. Let him call us stupid, as we cross the 120k mark with investment portfolio better than my lawyer brother in law struggling to keep his home in freakin Levittown, as I go put a downpayment on his and her shelby and gt stangs(my wife is getting the gt).
Cry a river, just keep working and paying taxes.My thanks sir :lol:

Homes in "freakin Levittown" have been on the market for 450 grand. Levitt-to-ians breeding their wannabee skin head offsprings have done over their homes into what they think is the Taj Mahal of the turnpike where they shop till they drop. And they think nothing of dropping a "50" in the dollar and 99 cents stores.

Keep investing in that portfolio. You'll need it just to buy gas.

let him cry aint pisssh*t he can do about it. Let him call us stupid, as we cross the 120k mark with investment portfolio better than my lawyer brother in law struggling to keep his home in freakin Levittown, as I go put a downpayment on his and her shelby and gt stangs(my wife is getting the gt).
Cry a river, just keep working and paying taxes.My thanks sir :lol:

Homes in "freakin Levittown" have been on the market for 450 grand. Levitt-to-ians breeding their wannabee skin head offsprings have done over their homes into what they think is the Taj Mahal of the turnpike where they shop till they drop. And they think nothing of dropping a "50" in the dollar and 99 cents stores.

Keep investing in that portfolio. You'll need it just to buy gas.
Ohhh pardon me, is 450 a lot for a home nowadays? No, its Below average in Nassau, and he paid 320 for it 5 years ago. Personally I wouldnt know My home was purchased in 1992 and paid off in 2003 (Stonybrook). Which in conjuncture to my 12 mile round trip commute to and from work in my 1999 honda civic(35 mpg) means I havent filled up since mid August. Why have gas prices gone up or something? :lol: Somedays I'm even tempted to ride my bike to work, lol

"the bottom line is this, cops are just one tiny notch above the perps they arrest. When civil service police exams are engineered to hire "dumb" people (as proved by the justice department of the United States) what do you expect? They are basically morons who have no foresight or intelligence to make it in the real world. Unfortunately, we as taxpayers have to fund these buffoons"


Really well when your getting robbed or in a serious auto accident
call your local mailman as***** don't bother calling the cops who do a great job out here. I get to leave my house to go play cop in the city knowing that I have a Dept like nassau to protect my "hood" and protect my family. You are the f****g buffoon.
Guess your a little disgruntled because you got DQ'd.

[quote="Really well when your getting robbed or in a serious auto accident
call your local mailman as***** don't bother calling the cops who do a great job out here. I get to leave my house to go play cop in the city knowing that I have a Dept like nassau to protect my "hood" and protect my family. You are the f****g buffoon.
Guess your a little disgruntled because you got DQ'd.[/quote]


EXACTLY!!!!

the bottom line is this, cops are just one tiny notch above the perps they arrest. When civil service police exams are engineered to hire "dumb" people (as proved by the justice department of the United States) what do you expect? They are basically morons who have no foresight or intelligence to make it in the real world. Unfortunately, we as taxpayers have to fund these buffoons.
That must suck to have a superiority complex with an inferior salary. "Well mr cop you are stupid and I'm better than you, but you are leading a better life than me, and I'm struggling to heat my home working 2 jobs while you are looking to purchase a new boat for the upcoming summer. As long as its clear, despite how things look, your foresight to take a better higher paying job with better benefits and retirement package doesnt make you more intelligent than me,'' you idiot get over us already

the bottom line is this, cops are just one tiny notch above the perps they arrest. When civil service police exams are engineered to hire "dumb" people (as proved by the justice department of the United States) what do you expect? They are basically morons who have no foresight or intelligence to make it in the real world. Unfortunately, we as taxpayers have to fund these buffoons.
That must suck to have a superiority complex with an inferior salary. "Well mr cop you are stupid and I'm better than you, but you are leading a better life than me, and I'm struggling to heat my home working 2 jobs while you are looking to purchase a new boat for the upcoming summer. As long as its clear, despite how things look, your foresight to take a better higher paying job with better benefits and retirement package doesnt make you more intelligent than me,'' you idiot get over us already
Never thought of it that way, guess its better to be one notch above a ''perp'' and lead a good life, withall the things everyone else mentioned, then be a taxpayer struggling to keep his home with the price of gas and heating and electricity going up, things are going to get even tighter for you mr anonymous cop troll. Gee we just got a raise based on our hiring date, and we get another 3% come 06. Whens your next raise?
By the way most ''perps'' are average joes taxpayers like yourself, ask any cop whos crossed over 100 arrests in their career, from teachers, nurses doctors, lawyer, truck drivers, street sweepers,realtors, brokers you name it, everyone breaks the law, and not just dwis the full gammit of assault, sex crimes larceny drugs you name it.
SO MY THANKS FOR PUTTING US THE POLICE A NOTCH, EVEN A TINY ONE, OVER THE CITIZENS/PERPS OF SOCIETY WE ARREST

With a clean-shaven head topping broad shoulders, there is little doubt that Anthony Raymond, a veteran Nassau County police officer, could easily defend himself. His muscles are apparent, even under a suit. Now Raymond indeed has to defend himself, but his muscles won't help.

He and another Nassau County cop, Gregory Martin, along with the county, are being sued for $50 million for the alleged use of excessive force during a 1998 arrest. The incident ignited when 21-year-old Joseph V. Spagna III of Valley Stream allegedly called Raymond "Baldy."

On Apr. 10, 1998, Raymond and Martin arrested Spagna for allegedly slashing his neighbor's tires. During the arrest, Spagna claims he was beaten, kicked and thrown down the staircase of his father's Valley Stream house. When Spagna was booked at the 5th Precinct, he says he was ordered by Raymond and Martin to strip. The two officers then allegedly laughed at Spagna when it appeared their rough treatment had caused him to defecate in his pants. The incident left Spagna with a broken nose and a lacerated scalp.

While none of Spagna's physical injuries persist today, he claims he still suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder. "I can't erase what happened to me that night," he says.

For the bare-headed Raymond, this trial marks the second time in two years that his on-duty actions have led to litigation. In December 1995, Raymond fatally shot Elmont resident Christopher Wade, 28. A parolee at the time of his death, Wade was being frisked by Raymond in Elmont when their mortal gun battle broke out. Even though Raymond emptied one gun clip and fired two more shots into Wade's prone body, the Nassau County Police Department concluded the shooting did not violate any of its procedures. A criminal grand jury also cleared Raymond of any wrongdoing. In 2001, a civil jury wasn't as forgiving. In a lawsuit argued by civil rights attorney Frederick K. Brewington, jurors ordered Raymond and Nassau County to pay Wade's family $2.25 million.

In the latest case, Spagna was eventually charged with three crimes, but none related to the tire-slashing. Two counts alleged he assaulted the officers during his arrest, and a third alleged that he tried to steal Raymond's service pistol during their tussle. A grand jury cleared Spagna of all charges.

"What they did to this young man is totally reprehensible. I cannot believe that a just society will allow their actions to go unpunished," says Brewington, who has joined in the civil case alongside Spagna's original attorney, Joel Sunshine. Sunshine is glad to have the company.

"Nobody is a better expert in civil rights law than Fred," says Sunshine.

Together, Spagna's attorneys are arguing that Raymond and Martin not only used excessive force, but that they violated Spagna's civil rights. The county disagrees. "Nobody is denying force was used here," says Charles H. Horn, the defense attorney representing Raymond, Martin and Nassau County. "The question for the jury to answer is: Was it excessive?"

To the dismay of the defendants, Magistrate Judge William Wall has already decided to allow testimony regarding Raymond's fatal 1995 shooting.

"This is an attempt at character assassination. They want to tell the jury, 'He did it once so he probably did it again,'" Horn argued in vain.

But there is evidence that will damage the plaintiff's case, too, most notably testimony about Spagna's condition that fateful night. In his opening remarks, Horn argued before the jury of five men and three women that Spagna not only admitted to drinking, but "in his own words, Mr. Spagna said he drank a few beers and smoked a couple of joints. The guy was loaded." The Long Island Press examined police records that Spagna filled out the morning after the incident, in which he admitted to "drinking half a bottle of whisky" that night. Sunshine responds: "Regardless of how much my client drank, police officers are trained to handle all levels of intoxication."

Sunshine and Brewington argue that not only are Raymond and Martin responsible for the attack, but so is the Nassau County Police Department. The attorneys contend that Raymond never should have been hired. Wall is allowing evidence of numerous complaints filed against Raymond while he was a New York City cop, before he joined the Nassau police force in 1994. "Raymond had complaints up the wazoo," says Brewington.

According to records from New York City's Civilian Complaint Review Board, obtained exclusively by the Long Island Press, 26 separate complaints, stemming from 10 cases, were filed against Raymond between 1986 and 1992. "If an officer has 10 cases of complaints against him in seven years, that's something of real concern," says Raymond Patterson, director of communications for the Review Board. Raymond has also been the subject of 20 complaints since becoming a Nassau police officer, while Martin has been the subject of seven complaints.

The defense did score one small victory, when Wall disallowed testimony about the time Raymond stole $250 from a Garden City gas station he worked at when he was 18 years old. Raymond listed the robbery on his applications to both the New York City and Nassau County police departments. "These youthful indiscretions are ancient history," Wall said, in response to Brewington's motion to include the information.

"I can't respond to any of these questions because the case is still in litigation," says Lieutenant Kevin Smith of the NCPD public affairs office. But, Smith points out, Raymond has received 17 commendations for "excellent duty" since joining Nassau's police force. Martin has been awarded five commendations.

Sunshine says he does not relish having to argue a case that paints police officers in a bad light, and he is less concerned with how much money the jury awards than with the issue of possible rogue cops. "Christopher Wade is dead and Joe was brutalized," he says. "Most cops are good and that's all the more reason to go after bad cops. Officers like Raymond should be removed from the force so they don't tarnish the reputation of those cops who are trying to help society."

right up your sanctimonious alley

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u where a bad cop menso why arent you in the article?


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john was a bad city cop, not nassau, and he was really naughty in old brookville, lol

Who is this guy Raymond? whats his story? he sounds like a loose cannon.

Who is this guy Raymond? whats his story? he sounds like a loose cannon.story is 6 years old embellished by supertroll mesno and the ''loose cannon'' was aquitted in court.

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Tony was never acquitted, because he was never tried -- the only reason why the drug dealer's relatives saw any cash was because Brewington got all sorts of material introduced that had nothing to do with the case. But, Fred got paid, so that's all that counts I guess......

I was wondering what happened with this case actually. I remember it on the news and never heard anything about it afterwards. I figured that meant the good guys( thats the cops for you trolls) won because no liberal news agaency wants to report that. Is that the case the perp didnt get anything?

[What about the Victims ?]

Who cares? As a taxpayer and a member of the public just trying to make ends meet I say this - If you are a past convicted criminal and caught doing anything at all the cops should be allowed to shoot you and drop off the body at the Dumps! I bet that would put a huge dent in the crimes these ignorant bastards commit. You get caught red handed - BANG! No trial, no fancy lawyers, no judges, no technicalities, no bullsh!t, just one behind your ear and the end of your promissing criminal history slime ball !

Example: You are a convicted Robber and you are caught with a bad inspection sticker on your Mom's car - you get shot on the scene and Mommy's ride goes to auction. Your body goes to the dumps and Mommy gets a notification a few days after her car is sold! End of story.

Who cares? As a taxpayer and a member of the public just trying to make ends meet I say this - If you are a past convicted criminal and caught doing anything at all the cops should be allowed to shoot you and drop off the body at the Dumps! I bet that would put a huge dent in the crimes these ignorant bastards commit. You get caught red handed - BANG! No trial, no fancy lawyers, no judges, no technicalities, no bullsh!t, just one behind your ear and the end of your promissing criminal history slime ball !

Example: You are a convicted Robber and you are caught with a bad inspection sticker on your Mom's car - you get shot on the scene and Mommy's ride goes to auction. Your body goes to the dumps and Mommy gets a notification a few days after her car is sold! End of story.

I LIKE IT - SEND IT TO ALBANY LETS GET SOME LAWS PASSED AND QUICK !

Who cares? As a taxpayer and a member of the public just trying to make ends meet I say this - If you are a past convicted criminal and caught doing anything at all the cops should be allowed to shoot you and drop off the body at the Dumps! I bet that would put a huge dent in the crimes these ignorant bastards commit. You get caught red handed - BANG! No trial, no fancy lawyers, no judges, no technicalities, no bullsh!t, just one behind your ear and the end of your promissing criminal history slime ball !

Example: You are a convicted Robber and you are caught with a bad inspection sticker on your Mom's car - you get shot on the scene and Mommy's ride goes to auction. Your body goes to the dumps and Mommy gets a notification a few days after her car is sold! End of story.

I LIKE IT - SEND IT TO ALBANY LETS GET SOME LAWS PASSED AND QUICK !
Only thing I's wonder, can I still count the 306b on my monthly stats?

Slashed his neighbors tires.

He initiated the whole thing. Don't behave like an animal and you won't have to deal with bald jackbooted thugs looking to kick your ass!!