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Suozzis Drivers
05-23-2004, 06:57 AM
Shame on the cops for allowing it and the Police Commissioner.
Rin Tin Tin
05-23-2004, 08:04 AM
Suozzi's their Boss, asswipe. Shame on Suozzi.
T Souzzi
05-23-2004, 03:25 PM
THEY MADE ME DO IT FOR SECURITY REASONS! NOW LOOK, THEY MADE ME LOOK STUPID AGAIN! DAMN, I HATE THOSE COPS!
SIGNAL91
05-23-2004, 08:18 PM
I hate the fire service, everyone knows that. Now, these miserable cops have made me look bad to the people of Nassau County. I know the terrorists are after me and I need the protection of $300,000 per yr police officers, but the public will simply not understand. I AM IMPORTANT!!! THE TERRORISTS WANT ME!!! I NEED THE PROTECTION!!! I DO!!!
JOEMONDELLO
05-23-2004, 08:22 PM
anywhere he wants to go for $150,000.00 per year, around the clock, 24/7....I will even use my own car. I will save the taxpeyers $150K per year. . . Afterall, I WAS JOE MARGIOTTA'S DRIVER BEFORE HE WENT AWAY TO COLLEGE. I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE.
Suozzi's Conscience
01-06-2005, 09:02 PM
He criticized everything the republicans did, but as it turns, Suozzi is using their administration as a jumping off point for his own, and doing twice the damage in half the time. He talks out of one side of his mouth, yet acts completely contrary - then the other side of his mouth starts twitching because he's afraid Nassau'S residents aren't as stupid as he's been counting on - or that Knight will straighten out Newsday and he'll lose his free PR.
He hires a County Attorney who got chased out of NYC by the NYPD because she lost so many cases for them, cuts the cops budgets and special victims squad - plays hardball with the PBA - or tries to - then when he loses he tries to hire some Washington DC consultant he figures owes him for the $100K he took from Nassau Residents to give to a losing Presidential Campaigner - to come to Nassau and do a report on how incompetent the cops here are. Then when the legislature strikes that down, he lets a salary increase go by, reinstates the special victims squad and opens up hiring hoping to get rid of as many veterans as he can.
Then he recruits a former US Atty General and puts him in charge of public safety as his Chief Executive County Attorney, hoping to run him for DA against Dillion or whoever the GOP candidate will be - to control the cops one way or another.
He's not a friend of the men and women in blue - never will be - but I bet this year you start to see him all of a sudden phony up and pretend to take an interest because he wants your vote.
Don't give it to him. Your too smart for that phony baloney BS.
Give it to Bozo the Clown if you have to - but don't re-elect the Suoz .
And don't forget what he did to you - or tried to do - or wants to do.
protective rubber
01-10-2005, 06:12 AM
suozzi aint worth killing. 11 more months and he'll be laying face down in front of police headquarters bridging the gap between the curb and the front stairs so we can walk over him and keep our shoes clean. and we wont be working in new cassel either suoz.
hedgehog
01-11-2005, 12:45 AM
You idiots are the ones talking out of both sides of your mouths. According to you, it was ok for Gulotta. If it was ok for him, then it should be ok for Suozzi.
lies, promises, misuse
01-11-2005, 01:40 AM
You idiots are the ones talking out of both sides of your mouths. According to you, it was ok for Gulotta. If it was ok for him, then it should be ok for Suozzi.
Didn't Suozzi's campaign promise to eliminate this particular and specific misuse of police INVESTIGATORS?
hedgehog
01-12-2005, 01:10 AM
There are real issues out there. This isn't one of them.
Hedgehog 2
01-12-2005, 01:34 AM
It is an issue stupid.
Troy Barker Simpson
01-12-2005, 09:55 AM
There are real issues out there. This isn't one of them.
Did hedgehog mention he is one of the drivers? LOL
hedgehog
01-13-2005, 12:52 AM
How is this an issue, especially compared to all the other issues out there? Or do you just feel like whining? Let me get some cheese.
Suozzi hires a Washington DC consultant to come to Nassau and do a report on how incompetent the cops here are.
And here I was thinking Mr. Suozzi had little or no idea about the current state of the NCPD.
This little bit of info may be just enough for me to throw him my vote. Suozzi may not have honor or integrity, yet according to you he does have some intelligence. :Razz:
im a architect
01-13-2005, 12:20 PM
''This little bit of info may be just enough for me to throw him my vote. Suozzi may not have honor or integrity, yet according to you he does have some intelligence''
Coming from the king of nitwits, thats comforting.
Thanks for sharing.
Empty between the ears
01-14-2005, 11:48 PM
That's the mentality of the voters Suozzi is counting on - the ones too stupid to read between the lines. Let me spell it out for you pal. It wasn't necessarily OK for Gulotta to have the PD paying a PO to drive him around all day. Nobody is saying that. Nobody is even saying that it's NOT ok for Suozzi to have the PD paying a PO to drive him around all day. Nobody is saying that either. Maybe it IS a safety issue. No judgments here. The ISSUE - and I want to be very clear hear so that you can understand this - THE ISSUE is that Suozzi said IT"S NOT OK to be paying a PO to drive around the County Executive while he was campaigning for the job of County Executive. It's ONE of the many issues he campaigned on (like the bogus re-vitalization of the Glen Cove waterfront voters were too stupid to go check out before believing him and voting for him). He PROMISED that if he was elected County Executive, one of the things he would do would be to cut out what he considered "waste" in County Government and he specifically used the PO's driving around Gulotta as an example of that. THE MINUTE the guy gets elected - what does he do? Gets the PO to drive him around! NOW do you get it bub? It's not a BIG issue but it's an EXAMPLE of the IMPORTANT ISSUES - Suozzi is a liar, a manipulator and has not fulfilled any of his campaign promises - this being one example. It shows he can't be trusted. It shows his administration can't be trusted. The taxpayers voted for him because he AND NEWSDAY told them how terrible the Gulotta administration was and Suozzi promised them he wouldn't do what the Gulotta administration did. Not only is he doing precisely what the Gulotta administration did, he's founded quite a few of his own unique scandals, and he's managed to accomplish all of this in only 3 years. THAT'S the issue. Still gonna swing your vote for him? Or don't you understand yet?
SCPD012
01-14-2005, 11:55 PM
Remember Suozzi, Enough already Vote or Kate!
You think Kate?
01-15-2005, 01:24 AM
You really think the contender will be Kate? Mondello can't really be losing his mind so young can he be?
Not even an option
01-15-2005, 02:55 AM
If it's Kate he runs it's Kate I vote for.
If it's potatoe sack he runs it's potatoe sack I vote for.
I don't care.
Suozzi doesn't get my vote. It's not an option.
Washington Consultant
01-15-2005, 03:06 AM
I can now see how Suozzi got elected. There really is alot of stupidity out there. Somebody wants to vote for Suozzi because he wanted to buy a washington consultant to fix a report to say what Suozzi wants it so say so he can do what he wants to do - decimate the cops and let crime creep here like it did in Brooklyn, Bronx and Queens - where the highest level of nassau county government now reside? So - you think that using taxpayer money to bribe an alleged expert to manufacture a bogus report to blame a decision on - which was stricken down by the county legislature YOU voted for - is reason to now vote for Suozzi? This is who you want as your leader? A man who uses other people's money - money he strong-arms people to give him - to buy favor to circumvent the very process of democracy he claims to be representative of? Yeah - you sound just like the Suozzi people. I bet you do vote for him - and you deserve everything you don't get.
Friendly Foes
01-16-2005, 02:57 AM
Just wondering how many cops were at the Tony Bennett benefit besides the PBA president who was rumored to be there?
So - you think that using taxpayer money to bribe an alleged expert to manufacture a bogus report
Are you referring to the investigation that Tom Suozzi wanted conducted to once and for all prove the Nassau County police Department is run by mostly incompetent officers?
Tom's conclusion
01-16-2005, 10:17 AM
Suozzi is all about the money. He won't stop giving his really high priced NYC employees raises, and he can't turn down his county attorney's out of control budgetary requests and he knows the taxpayers will hang him upside down by his testicles and whip his ass if he attempts any more increases this year, so he wants to pull money out of the PD since it's got the next highest budget to DSS - which he can't touch. So he needs somebody else with some perceived credibility, since his is shot to hell, to say the cops are mismanaged, overstaffed, whatever and get the public behind him so he can pressure staff cuts, pay cuts, privatization, whatever the hell union busting, civil service violations he can squeeze out to make his precious budget look good without suffering the wrath of bad publicity in doing so. That's what he wanted his washington consultant to do for him. It's like an investigative news reporter writing the conclusion first, and then running around trying to manufacture data to back it up. Didn't work out real good for Dan Rather and it's not going to work so good for mole-free Tom.
SCPD 84
01-16-2005, 02:29 PM
Bitterman:
You need to relax. At first, when reading your posts in prior boards, I actually sympathized with you and felt bad for you that you were that distraught over not getting a police job. Now, I must say that I am kind of happy they weeded you out.
The same department that you wanted to work for you are now trashing. :x
Just curious, did you flunk out of the pysch?
Just a word of advice...let it go...get over it...you can always try again in the future. This job is not the world. And if you think it is than you should not be a cop!
Well Said SCPD 84
01-16-2005, 10:35 PM
Money should be secondary to the welfare of the people. You can't keep running up a debt, but you can leverage your portfolio. You don't need to run up the savings accounts if the people your responsible for can't afford the butter to put on their bread at dinner.
Bitterman:
You need to relax. At first, when reading your posts in prior boards, I actually sympathized with you and felt bad for you that you were that distraught over not getting a police job. Now, I must say that I am kind of happy they weeded you out.
The same department that you wanted to work for you are now trashing. :x
Just curious, did you flunk out of the pysch?
Just a word of advice...let it go...get over it...you can always try again in the future. This job is not the world. And if you think it is than you should not be a cop!
Mmmm. Failed the psych exam? He should try applying to the county security guards. They'll probably take him.
Driver's Escort
01-18-2005, 01:42 AM
Maybe he can be a Driver's Escort. This way Suozzi's driver can sit in his car in his illegal parking spot at the front door, while the Escort walks Suozzi in and out of his appointments and checks the stalls for toilet paper so the Suoz man doesn't have to use his tie.
What's it Pay?
01-20-2005, 05:51 PM
I can walk the man in and out of buildings. What's it pay? How about if I get car sick - can I ride in the front seat?
Opps - We got lost!
01-20-2005, 08:38 PM
The drivers should accidentally get lost and run out of gas on main street near the projects in hempstead in the middle of the night and then leave suozzi in the unlocked limo while they go to find help. That'll help the cause huh?
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Special ops is that part of the juvenile aid bureau, now consolidated with the special victims unit, which Suozzi stopped funding on, and complained about that there shouldn't be specialized cops running around, that they should all be patrol cops and all cops should handle all things. Suozzi felt that there was no specialists needed. When the gang population over the last couple years exploded, the crimes soared, the cops completely frustrated because of Suozzi's new policies - they started lobbying and with the help of a strong union - got Suozzi to once again, trip over his own feet backwards and correct yet another one of his mistakes - by reinstating the funding, and the special operatives and putting together another team. Thanks to Suozzi, the special victims unit lost so much time, and training, and experienced personnel, that months of work was lost and projects had to be started up again almost from scratch. Thanks to Suozzi's administration, instead of giving the DA something to work with, he created bigger problems for law enforcement, instead, feeding the non-gang juveniles who actually deserved a break, to the wolves in family court - so he could keep espousing his tuff on crime policies, that in reality, he didn't have. Thanks Suozz.
Garden City Bimbo
01-23-2005, 01:01 AM
You got lost huh? And wound up at the Garden Hotel did you? Again!
Special ops hiring
01-29-2005, 10:03 AM
PBA wants 300 more cops for special victims squad - 1/3 of the 300 for anti-gang activity, Suozzi is blocking new hiring but Peterson will put the 300 down when he becomes county executive in November. Won't be any jumping of cops then & maybe we can pick up and export them out by the hundreds with that kind of manpower. Let's hope.
Ambushed by Suozzi
01-31-2005, 02:54 PM
Is Suozzi still talking about consolidating all the police stations into one central location in New Cassell?
Support Greg Peterson
02-03-2005, 09:13 AM
Support Greg Peterson for Nassau County Executive. He respects the Police and won't do you wrong.
SCPD PATROL 3
02-03-2005, 02:05 PM
You are absolutely right!! Stick together and help get rid of your big problem in Nassau County!! I would urge all PO's living in Nassau to get behind Peterson. Multi-agency support is crucial!! The same goes for whoever runs in 2007 against the police department dispising Levy!! It's time to unite and remove those who ARE detrimental to PUBLIC and OFFICER safety!!
The Blue Brotherhood
02-03-2005, 03:40 PM
Police families and their neighbors alone could be enough to oust the Suozz Man. Stay tune for a Suozz Man trick to turn you somehow toward him. Wait and be leary.
Teachers make bedfellows
02-16-2005, 11:29 PM
I don't know if the brotherhood is enough but they might be a formidable block if the teachers team up with them - and with suozzi pushing the agenda to change school board elections to november and starting anti-teaching lobby groups - it just might happen that way.
The Spark
02-16-2005, 11:44 PM
I don't know if the brotherhood is enough but they might be a formidable block if the teachers team up with them - and with suozzi pushing the agenda to change school board elections to november and starting anti-teaching lobby groups - it just might happen that way.
This is the best and most brilliant post on these boards. The key to defeating Suozzi is an alliance between the teachers and the cops. This would be unstoppable.
factor
02-17-2005, 02:08 AM
The problem is most Naasau cops don't live in Nassau which means they don't vote there.
Dormer's seed
02-17-2005, 11:23 PM
The idea for Dormer's article came from previous postings here. Read this thread straight through. It's all the truth but Newsday would never print it and Dormer was actually holding back too - it should have been a much tuffer Suozzi diss. Hopefully more articles like that will start flowing in the closer the election gets. Maybe by then there will be a new management change at Newsday and the articles will actually make it to publication.
Where do most cops live? I thought Nassau County residency was required? I thought most cops lived in Massapequa too - is that Suffolk?
Tell 'em to move in with their Nassau County friends and relatives long enough to establish residency to vote in November.
Newsday's going after him
02-21-2005, 03:25 AM
Notice how Newsday is going after Dormer now for daring to say something refreshingly honest against Newsday's wonder boy? And it wasn't anywhere near as strong and hateful as it should have been. The boy wonder is fading and soon - just a memory remains.
The problem is Suozzi
02-23-2005, 01:10 AM
That's what is happening in every agency all over Nassau county. Tom Suozzi has no idea what he is doing and he brought in all these NYC people to advise him. They have no idea what they are doing either. They don't know anything about Nassau County, and they don't live here, so they really don't care either. They are just copying everything from how the City did things, whether or not that way was even successful or not, because they can't think. They just copy, blindly copy, from how they remember things were. They didn't understand why things were the way they were or how or why they did or didn't work. So when things are different here in Nassau County, for many, many reasons - they can't anticipate or forecase properly how that will effect their management set-up, their organization or their plans. They can't accomodate the "wrench" in the works so to speak. So they just keep bumbling along, making more and more mistakes and bigger and bigger messes and it's just going to get worse and worse and worse until we get rid of the problem. Tom Suozzi.
Pass the hat around
03-01-2005, 05:30 AM
Time to dig deep and fork it over to the GOP. Now or Rot with Suozzi again for another term.
consolidating services
03-01-2005, 11:10 PM
Did you hear Suozzi's latest audit on the police department of nassau county revealed that we pay too many taxes to maintain our police. He says instead of taking that money and spending it on the police, he'd rather hire a dozen more 6 figure, top level, do nothing, unqualified, NYC workers. So he decided to get rid of all the police precincts and consolidate them all into one headquarters. He's said that over and over again. You've heard it. Nothing new. So if you live in Long Beach or Glen Cove or some other out of the way place, you might have to wait awhile to get help. You'll probably even die. The bad guys will have a real nice head start. But now Suozzi has decided he needs to hire about two dozen more stupid, yes men to play stupid when the feds come into investigate his payroll fraud and expense accounts and all that. So now he wants to go further. He sees no need for Suffolk County and Nassau County to waste money having two police forces. He wants to consolidate them together and call it the LONG ISLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT. Newsday editors LOVED the idea. The new headquarters will be based anywhere convenient to Levy. But because of the high price of gas and the fact that Suozzi's NYC workers only get 5% salary increases instead of 10% like they wanted - the cops will all have to drive economy hybrid Hondas. It'll give Suozzi's day laboring class and gang buddies a fighting chance.
524 cop reduction
03-02-2005, 04:53 AM
Greg Peterson can do it better.
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Suozzi is an idiot. We all see, hear and smell clearly. We know what's going on with Suozzi's audits on special districts. Why do you think DEMOCRATS are bailing and converting to republican?Because THEY SEE CLEARLY. Suozzi is killing us and ruining Nassau County.Weitzman and Levinson and Suozzi are all full of crap. There so called audit on special districts is a useless witch hunt that will only lead to higher county taxes for all of us and less services. Suozzi wants us to pay the money to the county that we are paying now to our own individual districts. He's not trying to save us money. Then he can take that money and give it away to more high salaried, do nothing, know nothing, administrators and leave us poor, dirty and thirsty. He'll have our money and we'll have no services. I rather pay my local district - at least I know I'm getting the services I'm paying for and I can see where my money is going.
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Suozzi thinks Government is like running a business. Some way to run a business. Suozzi is paying dozens of non-nassau county residents and unqualified department heads 6 figure salary's and creating verticle managment levels and imposing dress codes on lower level workers? His patronage jobs cost the county $16.1 million a year, up $3 million in the past 2 years. The average salary for the 422 patronage jobs in his administration is over $70,000. Yeah, things cost money. Patronage jobs cost money. He retroactively adjusted their start dates too so they get the same benefit package that senior civil service workers were entitled to because of their longevity and dedication to working for low salarys over the years. He's cut services. He's wiped out whole organizations that serve the general public. He raised taxes 19.4% in 2002 and he's been raising them ever since and claims he'll need to have 2 more increases before he's done. He's decreased the police staff by 522 jobs while the gang presence on long island is rapidly gaining, and while he denied salary raises to low level civil service workers, he gave 5% increases for the 3rd year in a row to his patronage workers, whose average salary is over $70,000 for a no show job. Because of the cuts in police overtime was $28 million last year and expected to be over $35 million this year while the overtime at the jail is over $25 million. This is what tom suozzi and his democratic majority legislature has accomplished in their first term in office. God help us if there's a second term. There damn well better not be.
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Gulotta's last two years in office he made his appointed workers all take pay cuts - that's where the give backs were coming from. He went after the patronage workers instead of raising taxes first. Suozzi raised taxes and then gave raises to his patronage workers with them. Suozzi is anything but special. Our kids are going to have nowhere to play and they are going to get run out of school by gang violence. Greg Peterson is the one Tom Suozzi is up against. He is a Gulotta friend OF COURSE. They were both active Republicans. So what? Greg Peterson spent the last 6 years outside of the government limelight running a very successful law firm and practising law. In fact, his law firm where he was a founding partner is one of the top 5 largest law firms in Nassau County. He knows how to work hard and he knows how to make a profitable business work. Before that he ran the town of hempstead for 5 years without raising taxes or decreasing services and he didn't have the luck suozzi had in reaping a sales tax windfall from explosive gas prices, which suozzi also surcharged incidentally - and now is threatening to add an energy tax too as well. Peterson also managed to merge 4 town departments and completely eliminated 2 others in order to keep essential services running smoothly without raising taxes. Suozzi sees tax increases as dividends owed to him, not as a last resort like Peterson. Go ahead wise guy - vote for Suozzi again. You'll be raising your family on the coast of Georgia soon because Suozzi is chasing the middle class out of nassau county.
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Good night Irene - Good night Tom Suozzi. AND GOOD RIDDANCE.
love shoes
03-06-2005, 10:53 AM
still dont know if delraba really was at suozzi fundraiser at hofstra though or why
butterfly2
03-09-2005, 01:33 PM
yes delaraba was there briefly---and reluctantly. U can be sure he's got a plan tho.
DelRaba & The Radios
03-11-2005, 12:43 AM
What plan? Give Suozzi money? If Suozzi promised him radios in exchange than DelRaba just got royally screwed. And what makes the Republican legislature think the money they allocated Suozzi to use in the last budget to fix streets and parks hasn't been used? I think it has been used. My opinion is that it's all gone - pissed away on some incompetent NYC appointee's salary. And Suozzi can't fix anything because his non-existent surplus exists only in his non-existent balanced books which soon, everyone should learn - is and always was - running at a huge deficit despite the tremendous Suozzi implemented tax increases and lucky sales tax revenues. Now Suozzi is desperate for the money so he can start all these visible projects just in time for November - even though he's done nothing in over 3 years. The budget should not pass and the Republican Legislator should not be bullied into submission because Suozzi tied the security of Nassau County in a capital expenditures project. The budget should fail. Then Suozzi should be forced to submit the police radio acquisitions as a homeland security special request - that's what it is. It's not a capital expenditure and it shouldn't be used as carrot. And DelRaba should insist on it being a separate submission too - instead of ranking on the Republican GOP and supporting Suozzi's plan.
I agree and....
03-11-2005, 12:48 AM
What plan? Give Suozzi money? If Suozzi promised him radios in exchange than DelRaba just got royally screwed. And what makes the Republican legislature think the money they allocated Suozzi to use in the last budget to fix streets and parks hasn't been used? I think it has been used. My opinion is that it's all gone - pissed away on some incompetent NYC appointee's salary. And Suozzi can't fix anything because his non-existent surplus exists only in his non-existent balanced books which soon, everyone should learn - is and always was - running at a huge deficit despite the tremendous Suozzi implemented tax increases and lucky sales tax revenues. Now Suozzi is desperate for the money so he can start all these visible projects just in time for November - even though he's done nothing in over 3 years. The budget should not pass and the Republican Legislator should not be bullied into submission because Suozzi tied the security of Nassau County in a capital expenditures project. The budget should fail. Then Suozzi should be forced to submit the police radio acquisitions as a homeland security special request - that's what it is. It's not a capital expenditure and it shouldn't be used as carrot. And DelRaba should insist on it being a separate submission too - instead of ranking on the Republican GOP and supporting Suozzi's plan.
It looks like Suozzi is just looking for some walk around money for the November 2005 election, Gary and the GOP Legislators need to stand firm and fight this linkage of radios for the police.
R A D I O
03-11-2005, 04:59 PM
Of course he is. He doesn't give a damn about whether or not the police get radios. He wants money to run all over the County starting projects so he can campaign on the platform - Rome can't be built in a day - I need 4 more years to finish what I started - look at all the great stuff I'm doing. That's the BS line he wants to sell. He's done nothing in all this time but raise taxes and fees and spend the money on who knows what and now he wants to pretend he's fixing stuff. The legislature should give him sqat. Let him sit on his hands. Then he'll campaign about how it's the republican minority's fault nothing got done because they won't let him spend the money. Watch. So easy to refute though - if Newsday wasn't around that is. So now he ties in the police radio expenditures because he knows that looks bad to turn down - that's a safety issue. Forget the part where Suozzi is putting a big, red X on the "HUB" for the terrorists. Where most places are spreading out important buildings and such, just incase of a strike - Suozzi is bringing it all together and wants to surround it with high rise buildings to boot. He's basically saying - here's where we are - come cripple us. Yet he pulls another stunt to bury the police radios in a budget package primarily formulated around his campaign plans. I can't believe even DelaRaba is becoming puddy in his hands.
Notacop
03-11-2005, 08:02 PM
Where was it said that delaraba sold out for the radios? There is no way--he doesn't need to. He has been begging for new radios for years and its a safety issue that he's all too aware of. I did not see or hear or read anywhere that he supports this expenditure plan because it includes the new radios. My impression is that he agrees that it should be a separate issue.
Delrab radio supports to
03-11-2005, 10:27 PM
He was quoted in Newsday as agreeing with Suozzi that the Republican Legislators were wrong in holding back their support of his budget because the radio issue was so important. Maybe it was taken out of context - Newsday style slanting - but that sure is the image that it projected. That's the way I took.
LBPD gets radios
03-13-2005, 04:41 AM
Democrat Harvey Weinberger got a state grant to get new radios and communications equipment from the state. How come Suozzi can't do that?
Gary Dellaraba Baba Looie
03-13-2005, 11:16 AM
More than $300k for 2 drives. Ian Siegel is his designated driver at $90k.
good query. easy answer
03-13-2005, 02:38 PM
Democrat Harvey Weinberger got a state grant to get new radios and communications equipment from the state. How come Suozzi can't do that?
Weisenberg is a mensch and a highly respected member of the Democratic Majority. He is a good man and has time for everyone, especially the severely handicapped. Suozzi, on the other hand, is the Pee Wee Herman of New York Politics. He carries on like a five year old, tells everyone they're corrupt, and hires thugs like Pete Sylver to serve on his senior staff.
Weisenberg gets the job done. Suozzi can't. It's that simple. Good question though, because it points out exactly why Suozzi is a threat to our region, and why he must be excised from the body politic, much like a facial wart or tumor.
Fixing Albany
03-15-2005, 08:03 PM
Yeah, maybe instead of trying to fix albany he should be trying to fix nassau and work with albany.
Long Drives Upstate
03-17-2005, 02:21 AM
What I want to know is whether or not Suozzi forced them to drive him on all his trips into Queens and Upstate New York and into Pennsylvania while campaigning for himself for Governor and for Lavine and for Bush's opposition and all his other campaigning activities which had nothing to do with his work for Nassau County. I'd also like to know how he handles those trips - I mean - does he call in sick or take a vacation day or does he consider a regular day in the course of his work as county executive. They go after Larry Schaeffer in the Sheriff's Department and they attack welfare people for using housing money to buy food but who goes after the County Executive when he's stealing time?
Newsday wont write this
03-17-2005, 07:38 PM
Suozzi keeps chanting about how he "only" increased the county portion of the property taxes 20% and then held the line but what he doesn't tell you is that he stopped spending the money that the county normally spends on things like road and park repairs and renovations and clean-up. He tried to tell the towns and villages it was their responsibility to do all that county business, and then he forced their hand by withholding money from them for services the town does provide which is with money allocated from the county that the county gets for this reason from the state and feds. It's exactly the same thing he did to the schools by withholding their money and cutting out youth groups and social services, educational and work programs and some police activity league functions - throwing the burden on everyone else. This is what he is complaining about with medicaid. Suozzi is the biggest phony and scam artist going. He complains he has to increase property taxes because the state is withholding reimbursement money for medicaid and yet he is withholding all funding that used to go to the schools, towns and special districts. Then when they are forced to raise their taxes, Suozzi swoops in and blames them for high taxes. In the meantime, thanks to Newsdays complete lack of reporting, nobody has question what Suozzi is doing with the county money because he sure as hell hasn't been spending it on any services beneficial to the county taxpayers. We do know he has a patronage staff of $16 million that get retroactive county benefits including free, lifetime medical benefits for people 55 and over and longevity pay even though they haven't worked in the county very long and don't even live in the county. We do know he is floating a bond in excess of $50 on the pretext of land preservation, but that he wants to build high rise apartment buildings on that land instead. We do know he wants to close down our only public medical center but is floating a bond for almost $2 million dolllars to build a life science center on the Queens border on private property where LIJ-North Shore Hospital is building an outpatient facility and we know Suozzi's father is a trustee in that hospital. We know that millions of dollars in personal service contracts have been given out through IDA and that, thanks to the NY Times reporting, we learned each and every one of those contracts corresponds precisely and exactly to political contributions. We know that you can't even sell ice cream at our parks, which haven't been touched since Suozzi took office, unless you have one of those contracts and the concessionaire who did get that contract is a Democratic Party Leader. We know that while Peter Sylver stole $1 million dollars of federal money (after sexually abusing a subordinate which the Suozzi administration tried to cover up with a confidentiality agreement) that was earmarked for low income housing for poor people, the Department of Social Services housed poor people in motels and then arrested them for using their money earmarked for housing toward basics like FOOD, while Peter Sylver got off with a slap on the wrist. We know the County Attorney forced the politically connected outside counsel to kickback 10% of the fees they were owed or threatened them that they would have to wait until hell froze over before they'd get paid, and that Suozzi has now implemented a scam with his politically hand choosen independent contractors where they get paid immediately, by computer, IN ADVANCE of doing any work at all. We know that Suozzi built "employment" sites in Glen Cove for illegal alien day laborers and that they wanted to ignore the problem of illegal alien's and illegal housing by condoning the activity and simply re-classifying these slums as commercial properties to raise their property taxes which will only lead to more illegals cramming into to further sub-divided sleeping areas to pay the higher rents these slumlords will undoubtedly start charging. We know that while Suozzi has hired 422 appointees, at least 1/2 half having been reported by the NY Times as living outside Nassau County, he has reduced the police force by 522 officers and decimated the special victims unit which handles the gang activity on long island as well handles the sex crimes and the juvenile aid bureau, and we can all see that despite Dennis Dillon's denials, the gang population with all its inherent crimes, has sprung up in almost every town in Nassau County and is so bad in many areas that people are afraid to walk around alone and night and women are afraid to go to the local 7-11 alone by day for fear of being sexually harassed by drunken illegal alien day laborers. This is the quality of life that has been forced upon us while Tom Suozzi has been in office, and he has only been in office for a single term. These are the indisputable things that we know and I'm only just beginning to put it all together. I can only hope others do too before it's too late.
Half truths and butt hole
03-19-2005, 07:15 AM
Siegel - $90K base pay only
CE gets driven around 24/7
2nd guy is back up $90K base pay w/ OT too
Newsday reported last year = $300K
Move over boys
03-21-2005, 11:44 PM
After Suozzi consolidates the fire districts and forms the one and only Nassau county fire district - he's going to consolidate buildings and move the FD in with the PD. The elevators will be replaced with poles and you'll lose your parking spots to fire trucks but pretty much nothing else will change!
Police Car Bumper Sticker
04-02-2005, 05:01 AM
Did I see right? I saw 3 cop cars yesterday with Peterson Bumper Stickers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can they do that ??????????????????
Cool.
Peterson Bumper Sticker
04-05-2005, 10:04 PM
The Feds are making the cops look bad though and hardly sympathetic to the voters come Novemeber. It's the feds rounding up illegal immigrants, it's the feds rounding on sex crime bandits, it's the feds cleaning up the gangs, it's the feds that got the money for the county regarding the BPA scandal and it's the feds chasing down deadbeats.
Cops are a big issue
04-06-2005, 04:56 PM
The public perception of whether or not the NCPD is worth the money they get paid is a big campaign issue this year. The GOP are plastering it all over their Nassau News flyers. It's risky though because if the public is sick of the high salaries and believe the cops aren't doing their jobs except to be running around being meter maids and traffic enforcers - it could sway them to Suozzi. Delraba really needs to get his own PR going.
The PR surrounding cops
04-08-2005, 02:50 AM
Well, you know Suozziola is portraying them in as poor a light as he can but he's got alittle problem. If he says crime is up or crime is worse because it's sex assaults and commercial burglarys instead of petty larceny and grafiti - he is in trouble. Under his watch, crimes worsened and the county became a more dangerous place. If he says crime is way down, which I think is Dillons campaign mantra, then we don't need as many cops is Suozzi's thinking. But then the PBA should just take the credit, despite Dillon, that they are the reason. I say despite Dillon because the DA doesn't take cases or referrals unless it's a slam dunk winner wrapped up in a pretty package for them. Despite Suozzi too because 1/2 the crime rate we do have is a result of gangs and illegal immigrants - neither is a problem Suozzi has addressed.
Suozzi's Style
04-11-2005, 01:04 AM
Be careful. Suozzi's style is to split up and divide. He'd like nothing better than to plan crap on here to try and drive the cops from the it's PBA head and the poor fighting, confusion and disloyalty amongst the ranks he can cause - the better he'll like it and believe he can crawl inbetween the fallen bodies and get them dead support.
Low and below the belt
04-22-2005, 09:35 PM
Oh Boy - he's desperate for a 2005 win because without a win in 2005 - he can kiss his higher aspirations away in 2006.
Smart Man in Blue
05-13-2005, 10:45 PM
Don't worry about us. We're not stupid. It's May. There is nothing Suozzi can do between now and November to get the vote of even one of us. You heard about the brick wall? Well, when it comes to the issue of getting rid of Suozzi in November, we are men of steel.
Endorse Greg Peterson
05-22-2005, 04:19 AM
Vote for Greg Peterson. It's too late for Suozzi. If he gets back in - next 4 years he'll crucify you. Nothing he gives you now to bribe you for your unions $3 million "endorsement" fund, will ever make up for the way he's gone after you in the past, and if he gets your endorsement - not only will everything he's been saying about the cops on Long Island and complaining about appear true to the public - but he'll have you by your blue balls in 2006 and take away everything that's not nailed down on a stone tablet. You'll all be working out of parking lots in New Cassell - happy new headquarters !!!
REGARDLESS OF WHAT DELRABA DOES
VOTE FOR GREG PETERSON - STICK TO THE PLAN - KEEP THE WALL SOLID - GREG PETERSON FOR COUNTY EXECUTIVE - IT'S YOUR ONLY CHANCE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111
ga ga gary
05-24-2005, 08:07 PM
the skinny is this ---
Suozzi not only wants the PBA's endorsement, but he expects it. Gary is willing to play ball for a 2 year extension of 3.9, 3.9, med benefits and elimination of the Q days. A 2 year extension is the maximum a contract can be extended by law without it being considered a new contract and having to go through the whole legislative process and negotiations. This will be coming down soon enough; in time for Suozzi's campaign and the PBA's executive board re-election bid (end of this year too). Bottom line --- Suozzi gets what he wants, Gary looks good again, we get decent deal --- but VOTE PETERSON ANYWAY!!!
Warped perception
05-25-2005, 01:27 AM
Gary looks good to nobody but the rabbit in Alice's looking glass.
Bogsted hasn't even announced his plans for a third party - he folded on supporting Suozzi but he's scared shitless of endorsing Peterson since he couldn't get a job in the private sector if his life depended on it - but already his own party is revolting and most are flooding the GOP party and planning the coo of Bogsted.
No way Gary gets away. The talk is loud and clear but it seems Ga Ga Gary and his other personality flatfoot (notice how he posts immediate after himself and pats himself on the back all the time) are the only ones who aren't listening to it.
It's 3 million baby
05-25-2005, 06:19 AM
Ga Ga and flatfoot are saying they have no intention of going alone with the PBA and Gary IF they endorse Suozzi - they will pull the lever for Peterson anyway - just like the conservatives will do IF Bogsted doesn't endorse Peterson - even if he runs his own dirtbag. The Coos come next year.
But the part that they think is innocent is the part where they think it's OK to endorse Suozzi publically. It's not. The repurcussions will be in the public eye. The Public will see the cops as greedy vultures leading the county to bankruptcy because of all the animosity that's gone on for 4 years - they know the only reason for the endorsement is money money money. A Peterson endorsement shows they're serious about their jobs and protecting Nassau County because Suozzi hurts the department due to his mismanagement and lack of support - despite him the cops have been doing a good job - but they don't think they can keep it up under his devastation another 4 years.
The other thing that isn't innocent is the 3 million dollars an endorsement brings. An endorsement requires free advertising for the candidate and everything that goes along with that like fundraisers and photo ops and nice things to say. That's the big GAG. Peterson's camp is a better resevoir and more deserving of that.
Ga Ga and flatfoot are saying they have no intention of going alone with the PBA and Gary IF they endorse Suozzi - they will pull the lever for Peterson anyway - just like the conservatives will do IF Bogsted doesn't endorse Peterson - even if he runs his own dirtbag. The Coos come next year.
But the part that they think is innocent is the part where they think it's OK to endorse Suozzi publically. It's not. The repurcussions will be in the public eye. The Public will see the cops as greedy vultures leading the county to bankruptcy because of all the animosity that's gone on for 4 years - they know the only reason for the endorsement is money money money. A Peterson endorsement shows they're serious about their jobs and protecting Nassau County because Suozzi hurts the department due to his mismanagement and lack of support - despite him the cops have been doing a good job - but they don't think they can keep it up under his devastation another 4 years.
The other thing that isn't innocent is the 3 million dollars an endorsement brings. An endorsement requires free advertising for the candidate and everything that goes along with that like fundraisers and photo ops and nice things to say. That's the big GAG. Peterson's camp is a better resevoir and more deserving of that.
PRAY THAT GOD FOGIVES YOUR ACTIONS AND ALLOWS YOU TO PASS INTO THE
GLORY THAT IS HEAVEN. pRAY THAT THE DARKNESS IN YOUR HEART WILL
DISIPATE WITH ETERNAL LOVE OF GOD
Ga Ga and flatfoot are saying they have no intention of going alone with the PBA and Gary IF they endorse Suozzi - they will pull the lever for Peterson anyway - just like the conservatives will do IF Bogsted doesn't endorse Peterson - even if he runs his own dirtbag. The Coos come next year.
But the part that they think is innocent is the part where they think it's OK to endorse Suozzi publically. It's not. The repurcussions will be in the public eye. The Public will see the cops as greedy vultures leading the county to bankruptcy because of all the animosity that's gone on for 4 years - they know the only reason for the endorsement is money money money. A Peterson endorsement shows they're serious about their jobs and protecting Nassau County because Suozzi hurts the department due to his mismanagement and lack of support - despite him the cops have been doing a good job - but they don't think they can keep it up under his devastation another 4 years.
The other thing that isn't innocent is the 3 million dollars an endorsement brings. An endorsement requires free advertising for the candidate and everything that goes along with that like fundraisers and photo ops and nice things to say. That's the big GAG. Peterson's camp is a better resevoir and more deserving of that.
PRAY THAT GOD FOGIVES YOUR ACTIONS AND ALLOWS YOU TO PASS INTO THE
GLORY THAT IS HEAVEN. pRAY THAT THE DARKNESS IN YOUR HEART WILL
DISIPATE WITH ETERNAL LOVE OF GOD
what exactly is a fogive?
ga ga gary
05-25-2005, 03:56 PM
I assure you that FlatFoot and I are NOT the same. I just check in often.
Get A Job
05-26-2005, 03:40 AM
Maybe you should get a job or if you have a job - do some work then. That explains the commentary from you - what are you - flatfoot's wife?
ga ga gary
05-26-2005, 04:17 PM
Dear Get a Job,
I happen to be very quite gainfully employed (with some down time) and quite opinionated, hence my reasons for coming to these boards. I am going to use my current down time and my current opinion to address you. You are an underachiever at a dead-end job with a miniscule brain incapable of forming intelligent thoughts and expressing them here in writing. Your jealously of those in positions such as myself is overwhelming and not a complimentary attribute. It's time to turn all that negative energy of yours into something positive or you will continue to live your lonely worthless life. No spouse, no kids, few friends! Turn away, turn away before you get too caught up and it's too late.
P.S.
Thanks for scraping up all your empty bottles and paying your taxes on time.
Try EBAY then
05-26-2005, 11:23 PM
Maybe you can win a BOAT to take your boss Suozzi out on -- I hear he's been looking alittle peaked lately - especially after this month's Long Island Press story came out. BOATS - for you NYC guys Suozzi seems to like giving all the County's, no-show, nothing to do jobs too - require WATER - just put your boss in the cab part, hook up the boat - and keep driving. When the water fills up the interior of the cab and you find your breathing getting alittle shallow - STOP - you've gotten there! Just relax now - it'll all be over soon.
My man Peterson for CE
05-29-2005, 12:51 AM
It is almost over. Suozzi will drown in a river of his own sweat as story after story about the truth of his administration starts coming into the public view. And oh how we'll smile.
Suozzi will still win
05-29-2005, 03:09 AM
Sorry dude
No way Jose
05-29-2005, 07:08 AM
Only the illegal Joses will vote for that metrosexual.
PRAY THAT GOD FOGIVES YOUR ACTIONS AND ALLOWS YOU TO PASS INTO THE
GLORY THAT IS HEAVEN. pRAY THAT THE DARKNESS IN YOUR HEART WILL
DISIPATE WITH ETERNAL LOVE OF GOD
AND PRAY THAT SCHWAZZI DOESNT GET RE-ELECTED
Prayers work
05-31-2005, 10:43 PM
But how about as a backup we all just pull the levers down in Row A on Election Day - just you know - incase your God happens to be busy trying to keep Israel and the Palenstians apart and our men and women in Iraq safe. Just incase.
Youth Group Bribe
06-04-2005, 02:29 AM
Suozzi finally forks some money over to youth groups because now all of a sudden, after destroying the gang prevention units and starving the youth organizations - he's decided it looks bad during an election year. Too little too late A hole. We can see right through you. There's nothing there.
We knew that a long time ago!!
Short memories
06-07-2005, 12:13 AM
Yes , we did but Suozzi is banking on his belief that people are stupid and self-centered and that if he comes out in the last hours and pretends to be a friend, and paints some park benches and throws out a couple of contract beans and raises he figures he'll only take back again later - he thinks these stupid people will ignore the last years of abuse of nothingness and vote for him. How stupid do you think the average voter is? I guess we'll see in November. I hope these housewifes with no life don't get all a teether when he runs around grabbing their hands and sticking his cosmetically altered face and teeth in their face.
Union Lawyers
06-10-2005, 04:21 AM
Greg Peterson's law office - Berkman Henoch - represents unions too - they are a group for the laborers - the working class poor and understand the middle class. Something the elitest in the Suozzi administration don't understand, and have no use for. He'll get civil service back to normal service and look out for the regular people who live in Nassau County - he won't just be a man for the Lattingtown crowd.
RE:Civil Service
06-12-2005, 01:38 AM
The rank and file workers in Nassau County are throwing out the SUOZZI puppet they have for a union leader and are going with the new guy. I have just met him so I don't know if he'll keep his promises or be any better...BUT I KNOW HE CAN"T BE ANY WORSE!!!
2 for 1
06-15-2005, 11:42 PM
Yeah, I heard the votes are almost double - with all the Suozzi and Jay Jay campaigning I think it's a good sign - it's a vote against Suozzi knowing how badly he feels he needs his Jane doll pulling the labor camp toward his downward spiral.
First we take care of Jane the Bane of the workers
and then we take care of Suozzi Pajazzi - the former NC CE !
Strike three
06-18-2005, 01:52 AM
Suozzi strikes out. He was afraid to swing at the ball during the press conference when the cameras were on with him crying about how he needs the firefighters to give him $100K so he can finish the park memorial. Bloomberg can clean-up and start to renovate an entire NYC downtown area - complete with subways - and Suozzi can't seem to put a couple of lego buildings up in a pile of dirt in Eisenhower Park in the same amount of time. And why are the firefighters of NYC and Suffolk joining Nassau for a fundraiser for a Nassau County 9-11 memorial? Sounds like another campaign function for the Governor's race - Nassau County be damned. He's squeezing us out.
Latest West St Rumor
06-19-2005, 09:20 PM
I heard Suozzi is still moving the Social Services people out into Uniondale but he's leaving Probation on County Seat. Instead of selling County Seat - he's going to sell the Police Headquarters and move them into the DSS building. Rats and fires and all.
So with the DA
06-22-2005, 08:58 PM
Yeah, I heard the votes are almost double - with all the Suozzi and Jay Jay campaigning I think it's a good sign - it's a vote against Suozzi knowing how badly he feels he needs his Jane doll pulling the labor camp toward his downward spiral.
First we take care of Jane the Bane of the workers
and then we take care of Suozzi Pajazzi - the former NC CE !
Jay is campaigning to put a Dillon cut out(Rice) to knock Kouril out of the the DA's race and a Dillon ADA (Ferrel) to knock Rocco out of the Clerk's race. Puppets, puppets, puppets! Wouldn't it be nice to elect someone with a little independence for a change?
More than double
06-23-2005, 06:48 AM
It was more than double. Jerry beat Suozzi's doll. A good sign. Union members hung tuff and knocked out Suozzi's girl. Next they'll knock out Suozzi himself. Wait and see. That's alot of voters - families and friends.
I won't fire Klein
07-01-2005, 03:39 AM
Klein is constructively fired.
flip flop flip flop - I got your back - stick with me - flip flop flip flop
TRS
Ain't no Kennedy
Cuomo hires
07-05-2005, 05:14 PM
Sylver, Klein, Shomwa--these were all Cuomo recommendations
What's your point?
07-14-2005, 04:47 AM
Even if true, what's your point? And it's not true about Sylver. Suozzi was introduced to him at a party - 20 minutes later the guy was given a $120K salary and put in charge of Economic Development.
Suozzi loves criminals
07-17-2005, 04:07 AM
And let's not forget how the Nassau County Comptroller hired a Newsday Accountant for our Comptroller's office who was arrested on fraud over Newsday's criminal activities or Suozzi's hiring of the bankrupt Peter Sylver who stole and sexually assaulted during his reign or how they are still running Dave Dennenberg after he was convicted because of petition fraud - and the Nation of Islam guy who submitted fraudulent timesheets authorized by his boss who Suozzi refused to fire. Please. These are all Democrats and close to home brother.
More of them to go
07-22-2005, 01:39 AM
Don't forget Borin and Botwin - who went running out of NYC tax assessments and tax cert departments into Nassau County's assessment department and county attorney's office just ahead of the all the criminal indictments coming down in NYC for bribery and kickbacks, or the Muslim Director of the Pakistani group that supports foreign policy in Pakistan on behalf of the muslims that they are running for County Legislature in the 18th district - and wasn't Patrick Williams one of them too? And didn't they fire Karl Kampe because he allegedly played civil service games, but then hired him back after realizing an honest guy who plays by the rules just got in the way of them circumventing the civil service rules as was convenient to them? Yeah - Kampe was a republican - but now he's playing on team Suozzi so he's one of Suozzi's houseboys now. The same Suozzi who said he was gonna clean up Gulotta's patronage plan - apparently decided he liked it and was going build on it. Like the Mafia guy who runs a business staffed with recently released felons - sure buys loyalty huh? They know nobody will take them. Those unqualified slobs that nobody else wants - that summarizes Suozzi's team.
It was more than double. Jerry beat Suozzi's doll. A good sign. Union members hung tuff and knocked out Suozzi's girl. Next they'll knock out Suozzi himself. Wait and see. That's alot of voters - families and friends.
Can I Sue The Police?
Frequently Asked Civil Rights Questions
Under Title 42 U.S. Code Section 1983, the federal civil rights civil statute, individuals may file lawsuits against an offending officer, police department, or jurisdiction. Although the federal law, Section 1983, is used most frequently, plaintiffs may also use state-level statutes in bringing abuse lawsuits. The statute mandates that:
Any person who, under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress.
Although the federal law, Section 1983, is used most frequently, plaintiffs may also use state-level statutes in bringing abuse lawsuits.
What is a Civil Rights Case?
A civil rights case consists of those cases which protect the rights of people, where the rights are derived from constitutional law. Many laws are created from local governments or from judges. However, Civil Rights law flows from the U.S. Constitution. With regards to civil rights, this internet cite concerns only those civil rights which concern police misconduct also known, in some situations as Police Brutality.
What is a Police Misconduct Case?
Police officers, just like any human being, make mistakes. Some of their errors are very serious and abusive, others are just careless. The area of law concerning police misconduct concerns situations like excessive force (an officer hurts someone unnecessarily), false arrest and malicious prosecution. These are the most common cases that are filed in the Court system.
Excessive Force Cases
A police officer acts with excessive force when he/she uses an amount of force with regards to a civilian that is more then necessary. Police officers are certainly permitted to use force and in some situations, deadly force. However, there are times when officers misuse their authority and injure someone without a justified reason. For example, take a situation where an officer stops an elderly gentleman for speeding. The officer asks the driver to get out of the car and while the driver opens the car door, the officer yanks him up from his seat and throws him against the car. This would be an example of excessive force. As there would be no need to cause injury to the driver of the car, the officer would be liable for using excessive force (here, liable means legally responsible in a court of law for damages that the driver suffers from officer’s abuse).
False Arrest
Generally speaking, an arrest is defined as any type of situation that you are involved in with an officer where you are not free to leave. If you are under arrest, the next question that should then be asked is what is the reason for the arrest. If the officer does not have a valid reason for arresting you, then you may have a false arrest claim. Take the following example. A police officer sees a young lad standing on the corner, alone, minding his own business. The officer comes up to young man and tells him that he must submit to a search (pat down search). The boy says no and the officer tells him that he must submit. The boy again says no and the officer forces him into the squad car and takes him down to the station. After searching the boy at the station and checking his background, the officer releases him. The young man has a valid false arrest claim. He was arrested without any valid basis whatsoever and brought down into the station.
A valid federal claim and state law claim could be pursued and won, assuming that these facts could be proven at trial.
Malicious Prosecution
A malicious prosecution claim is similar to a false arrest claim. In this type of case, the officer arrests an individual for no valid reason and then initiates a criminal complaint against the innocent person. Typical cases in this regard are Aggravated Battery cases. Here, an officer for no good reason, strikes a civilian. The civilian blocks the strike and hits back. The officer then tackles the civilian and arrests him and charges him with striking the officer – known as Aggravated Battery. After the criminal case is over (and preferably won) the innocent civilian may lodge a civil rights case against the officer for excessive force, false arrest and malicious prosecution.
What if my case is not so clear cut?
Many people don’t understand what it takes to win a police misconduct case. First, the law can be quite confusing. Second, there is frequently a difference from what it is that can be proven as opposed to what happened. For example, a police brutality case would be stronger if there was an independent witness to observe an officers abuse. Frequently, there are no witnesses and the case must be proven through other means. Take, for example, the factual scenario of the gentleman (above) in the excessive force case. If the police officer fails to detail anything in his report to justify his actions and the driver goes to the emergency room for injuries immediately after his interaction with the officer, then the case may easily be proven. So, the most important thing to do when confronted with a situation involving police misconduct is CONSULT A LAWYER. Don’t leave it to your own decision making process to determine whether you would be able to win a case in court. The law as well as the manner by which your case can be proven is complicated. Get some free advice as you will be better off.
Examples Of Illegal Conduct Police Have Been Sued For
Johnson v. Village of Willowbrook
Largest police misconduct verdict for pat-down search in Illinois: $112,000.00 for woman who was searched (over the clothes) by two Caucasian police officers because she had expired license plates.
North Carolina: After 12-year-old Amanda Cope of Rock Hill was found raped and beaten to death in her own bed in 2001, her father Billy was subjected to 4 days of unrecorded, non-stop interrogation, until he confessed on videotape. In 2003, DNA matched the semen found in Amanda to James Sanders, a sex offender who moved to the Copes' neighborhood shortly before Amanda's murder. So the state has amended the charges against Billy to conspiracy because You Can't Waste a Coerced False Confession. (http://www.truthinjustice.org/cope.htm)
ATTITUDE SHIFT
There is a pattern that is repeating itself in jurisdiction after jurisdiction. Jurors are regularly rejecting the testimony of police officers and awarding substantial damages to plaintiffs claiming police responsibility for personal injuries, deaths and violations of civil rights.
"Jurors used to come in predisposed to believe the police," says Arturo J. Gonzalez of San Francisco's Morrison & Foerster, who has handled numerous cases against police departments. "Now jurors are more neutral and some are even predisposed to disbelieving police."
"For many, many decades, police enjoyed the benefit of the doubt with the American public," says John Smathers of Laurel, Md.'s McGowan, Cecil & Smathers, who won a $4 million excessive force verdict last year. "Today, the American public is more willing to look at officers and citizens on an equal footing."
This skepticism has improved the odds for plaintiffs' lawyers to pursue these lawsuits against the police in court. In the past two years, juries have awarded a series of verdicts against the police in a wide variety of cases.
In late 1999, a Washington, D.C., jury ordered the city police department to pay $98.1 million for the failure to protect an informant.
In 2000, a New York jury awarded $92 million to a young man who was rendered paraplegic when shot by an off-duty police officer.
Awards in 2001 include:
• $6 million in an excessive force-wrongful death action in Detroit, in which the defense claimed the victim shot by an off-duty officer was not only drunk but had attempted to run down the officer with his Jeep.
• $1 million in Baltimore in an excessive force case in which the only physical injury was a broken wrist.
• $8 million in Oregon to a woman who was shot by a state trooper who had pulled her over for speeding.
All of the juries were presented with conflicting reports of the events and chose the one offered by the plaintiffs.
The trend toward disbelieving the police has also led to swifter, and ever-larger, pretrial settlements, says Johnnie Cochran of Los Angeles' Cochran, Cherry, Givens & Smith.
In April, Cochran was a member of a team of lawyers who won an $18 million settlement from the city of Chicago over the shooting death of a young woman. The case settled just before trial, he says, after the city discovered through a focus group that a massive verdict was nearly guaranteed.
The single most important factor in changing juror attitudes toward the police was the 1991 beating of Rodney King, according to plaintiffs' lawyers. "Rodney King was something that everybody saw," says Gonzalez. "It changed national perceptions." But this has been reinforced by other, more recent, incidents, he says.
"Since then you've had Ruby Ridge, Waco, the guy in New York who was shot 26 times," and the Abner Louima case, he says. Others include the Rampart Division scandal in Los Angeles and episodes involving Gonzalez's clients, including the parents of an 11-year-old boy killed when shot in the back during a police raid on his home.
The growing recognition that these incidents happen and the rising size of settlements and verdicts have encouraged prospective plaintiffs to file cases against the police, says Cochran: "The police no longer have this aura of invincibility."
Plaintiffs' lawyers are also more willing to take cases, says Gonzalez. "Ten years ago, it was literally impossible for someone to find a lawyer to take a civil rights case on the part of a Latino," he says. "Now, if the plaintiff looks credible, plaintiffs' lawyers are more willing to roll the dice."
There are no figures on how many suits are being filed, but plaintiffs' lawyers confirm that numbers are rising. Cochran now has about 250 cases pending against police departments and government agencies nationwide over police misconduct. Pettit reports that "we're averaging about 25 to 40 calls a week in my office," from prospective plaintiffs seeking to file claims.
Not just the number of cases, but the size of verdicts is rising, says Cochran. "All over the country, we're seeing bigger numbers."
A false arrest-false imprisonment case in California may be the poster child for how verdicts and settlements against police agencies have risen over the past decade. Los Angeles police deputies arrested two Pico Rivera, Calif., couples in 1984 and charged them with child molestation. Nearly all the children recanted and the charges were dismissed at the preliminary hearing.
The two couples sued the county and in 1990 a Los Angeles jury awarded the plaintiffs $3.7 million. This was reversed and retried in 1995. The verdict then was $7.3 million. This was reversed as well and set for retrial. One couple settled for $4 million and the second couple, Tim and Helen O'Keefe, went to trial for a third time in 2000. The verdict this time was for $13.5 million. The O'Keefes settled in April for $9.9 million. Valentin v. County of Los Angeles, C 529739 (Super. Ct., Los Angeles).
There are more settlements today, largely because of the fear of facing juries, Cochran adds. In New York, this factor is clearly affecting litigation, says Fay Leoussis, chief of the city's torts division. The negative publicity over the Louima and Amadou Diallo police brutality cases has changed the city's response to such lawsuits. "As part of our risk management, we've been settling rather than taking these cases to the jury."
The testimony of officers at trial has also damaged their credibility, says Gonzalez. "In the cases I've had, police witnesses will say something that is blatantly untrue. And this reinforces what people now suspect -- that the police lie."
Gonzalez recently represented the family of Ramon Gallardo, a 64-year-old man who was killed in a SWAT team raid on his home. The police brought his wife to the police station and "interrogated her in the basement for four hours after her husband was shot," he says. In testifying in the Gallardo case, says Gonzalez, "the police chief said he treated Mrs. Gallardo the way he'd want his mother to be treated. This was obviously false." The Fresno, Calif., jury was so angry, he says, that in 1999, it awarded the Gallardo family $12.6 million, the largest verdict ever for a Latino against the police. The case has since been settled for $6 million. Gallardo v. Reinnecius, Civ. F 97 6111 (E.D. Calif.).
VIDEO EVIDENCE
The rising use of videotape has had a significant effect in improving the odds for plaintiffs, says Peter Grenier of Washington, D.C.'s Bode & Grenier, who won that $98.1 million verdict against the D.C. police. "A lot more hard evidence is being created."
Grenier recently won a $5 million settlement from the city of Asbury Park, N.J., over the suicide death of a man in police custody. Michael Watkins, a 20-year-old recovering drug addict, had been placed in an Asbury Park jail cell with the police neither confiscating his shoelaces nor determining what medications he needed. A camera posted in the Asbury Park jail would record each cell for eight seconds then move onto the next cell. Through nine minutes of the videotape, the camera kept going back to Watkins as he was hanging himself with the laces, but none of the guards looked at the screen, Grenier reports. The guards eventually responded. They cut him down and resuscitated him.
But this came too late. "He's now 24 and in a persistent vegetative state," the lawyer says. A suit against the city was to begin on June 11 but settled.
The next wave, Cochran notes, will be in lawsuits and judgments against police departments "over shoddy, overzealous prosecutions." The settlements in the Rampart case in Los Angeles, he says, will likely top $100 million.
Plaintiffs' attorneys are becoming more creative and pushing more esoteric claims. In Ohio, the family of a woman killed by her boyfriend sued the village of Blanchester and its police chief for failing to pursue a hunt for her body. The body was never found and the family charged a violation of their constitutional property rights in preserving "the remains of their loved one," says plaintiffs' attorney Alphonse A. Gerhardstein of Cincinnati's Laufman & Gerhardstein. In February, a Cincinnati jury awarded $3.75 million. Culberson v. Doan, C-1-97-965 (S.D. Ohio).
But while jurors are more receptive and plaintiffs' attorneys more inventive, there are obstacles remaining in pursuing these cases.
Depending on the jurisdiction or the claim, there can be sovereign immunity for the police department, qualified immunity for individual police officers or a daunting burden of proof.
Federal case law may block recovery in certain actions, says Gerhardstein. A 1998 U.S. Supreme Court decision on police responsibility in deaths or injuries caused by police chases, for example, raised the bar considerably, he notes.
The verdicts aren't always sustained on appeal. Grenier's $98 million verdict was cut to just over $1 million. Smathers' $4.1 million verdict was sliced to $1.6 million, and that $1 million broken wrist verdict was remitted by 90 percent.
Where the case is filed depends on the facts, says Gonzalez. Excessive force cases are often better pursued in federal courts, as violations of the Fourth or 14th amendments, he believes.
Gerhardstein notes that federal courts are generally more receptive to any actions against the police.
Suozzi gets no support
08-03-2005, 08:15 AM
No PBA support for Suozzi is the same thing to him as not killing him with advertising money to support Peterson so we might as well put our hands in our pockets and go full out to support Peterson because Suozzi is one vengeful dude. It's Peterson in 2005 - it's got to be !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was looking for this
10-29-2005, 03:00 AM
:P
Wang - flip flop 2oo
11-06-2005, 02:32 AM
Suozzi flip flops throughout his entire administration mostly because he has no conviction or substance. He supported Wang as long as Wang was shelling out money into all Suozzi's projects, and even violated the County Charter and went behind the public and the legislator's back to sign the 60 story tower that he was quoted time and again in saying how that's what he wanted for Nassau County and how what a great idea that was. Then Greg Peterson got on his back and started pulling up in the polls because Greg opposed that kind of over-developed, urbanization for Nassau County. As soon as Suozzi saw his popularity dwindle - he shook Wang loose and said he was no longer attracted to it anymore himself. His whole reign as been about flip flopping - and that's why he's accomplished nothing except spending our money the tax increases brought him. Thank god he took the State's money the Republican's got for him to start off the administration and he listened to NIFA which the Republican's also set-up and ran. Too bad he didn' t use the tax increases to pay off the accumulated debt from the tax assessments though. He's actually left Nassau in a worse predicament now. And what ever happened to all his crying about how the costs of Medicaid were going to cause a deficit? Was he lying then - or is he lying now?
The truth about lying
11-08-2005, 12:04 AM
The problem for Suozzi is that he's become so much of a showman - he's developed the ability to convince even himself that he's telling the truth even when he's lying. The lines for him are all blurred - so blurred that he plucked from Philadelphia a DA candidate who herself is a defendant in a serious case whereby she is alleged to have surborned perjury by threatening a witness with jail time, if the witness didn't testify against the defendant, even after the witness told her that the defendant is an innocent man. That's how far she'll stoop - you don't want a DA who is more concerned with getting a conviction than getting the truth. Well, normal people don't. Suozzi doesn't care and Newsday refused to give the readers the information. But then again, Suozzi's comptroller hired a Newsday accountant who was convicted of defrauding advertisers by doctoring up the books. One would think you wouldn't want a character like working in the County's alleged watchdog agency, alongside the SEC specialist they also hired - but apparently Weitzman and Suozzi do. Why not? They hired a bankrupt Peter Sylver to handle a multi-million dollar economic development agency, hired Nation of Islam activistis and took them to Albany with them to campaign for Suozzi on County time - then lied about it, or tried to and hired Borin from the NYC assessors office to run Nassau County's Assessment Review Office after all his NYC Assessors got indicted for taking bribes. This is Suozzi. He is not sure of the difference between the truth and a lie - and to him, it doesn't seem to matter. Vote for Peterson in 2005.
[quote=and that's why he's accomplished nothing except spending our money the tax increases brought him. Thank god he took the State's money the Republican's got for him to start off the administration and he listened to NIFA which the Republican's also set-up and ran. Too bad he didn' t use the tax increases to pay off the accumulated debt from the tax assessments though. He's actually left Nassau in a worse predicament now. And what ever happened to all his crying about how the costs of Medicaid were going to cause a deficit? Was he lying then - or is he lying now?[/quote]
For the last time, stop lying.
1)The Reps initiated the reassessments.
2) I love how you say the Reps "got him" some money. As if they did him a favor. The Rep are the reason there was a NEED for state aid to begin with. When the Reps plunge the county 3 BILLION into debt and then NIFA gives him 100 million in aid to pull the county our of it, that's not exactly helping, is it? That still left him 2.9 billion behind.
3) Once again, the only reason there was a need for a tax increase was the Reps corruption and mismanagement.
4) County debt is LOWER than before.
5) What the hell are you talking about regarding Medicaid? Medicaid WOULD have created a deficit in future years if not for the cap he helped establish.
The Reps in this county have to be the most shameful, lying scumbags to ever walk the Earth.
Whose lying now?
11-08-2005, 01:17 AM
[quote=and that's why he's accomplished nothing except spending our money the tax increases brought him. Thank god he took the State's money the Republican's got for him to start off the administration and he listened to NIFA which the Republican's also set-up and ran. Too bad he didn' t use the tax increases to pay off the accumulated debt from the tax assessments though. He's actually left Nassau in a worse predicament now. And what ever happened to all his crying about how the costs of Medicaid were going to cause a deficit? Was he lying then - or is he lying now?
For the last time, stop lying.
1)The Reps initiated the reassessments.
2) I love how you say the Reps "got him" some money. As if they did him a favor. The Rep are the reason there was a NEED for state aid to begin with. When the Reps plunge the county 3 BILLION into debt and then NIFA gives him 100 million in aid to pull the county our of it, that's not exactly helping, is it? That still left him 2.9 billion behind.
3) Once again, the only reason there was a need for a tax increase was the Reps corruption and mismanagement.
4) County debt is LOWER than before.
5) What the hell are you talking about regarding Medicaid? Medicaid WOULD have created a deficit in future years if not for the cap he helped establish.
You're an idiot if you think you can hide fhat fact that Suozzi has floated $10 million in bonds over the past three years, the tax assessment refund deficit is LARGER than it was before and the legal judgments are still sitting in abeyance besides the fact that the County LOST it's asset forfeiture appeals and still hasn't straightened out that mess. Suozzi established nothing. He did nothing except threaten people in Albany, who had already drafted medicaid spending bills and they are the ones that voted on and passed them. Look up the bills before you shoot your mouth off like Suozzi did. All the wheels were spinning long before he got on the bandwagon - which his bandwagon - never even got out of the driveway. On top of that, you might recall, unless you find it easier to sit back and call everyone else liars - that's Suozzi whole point was that he was blaming medicaid for the tax increases - after the caps - he started blaming the schools and towns and anything else he could think of. Why? Because he couldn't control his spending and refused to limit taxes or fees or housing assessments. Obviously, his year of ranting about medicaid was a lie since he kept on ranting after ward - thinking what? We'd all forget? Maybe you did. But I didn't. I am a Democrat who supported Suozzi and all I see he did was kick us all in the head. He did nothing for the party except cause division and he did less for the people who live here. He'll do absolutely nothing next year and he'll let the likes of complete morons like Reinharz and Goodman and the rest of the bunch who don't even live her - continue to spend our money, lose it and run wild with incompetence and stupidity.
The Reps in this county have to be the most shameful, lying scumbags to ever walk the Earth.[/quote]
[quote=and that's why he's accomplished nothing except spending our money the tax increases brought him. Thank god he took the State's money the Republican's got for him to start off the administration and he listened to NIFA which the Republican's also set-up and ran. Too bad he didn' t use the tax increases to pay off the accumulated debt from the tax assessments though. He's actually left Nassau in a worse predicament now. And what ever happened to all his crying about how the costs of Medicaid were going to cause a deficit? Was he lying then - or is he lying now?
For the last time, stop lying.
1)The Reps initiated the reassessments.
2) I love how you say the Reps "got him" some money. As if they did him a favor. The Rep are the reason there was a NEED for state aid to begin with. When the Reps plunge the county 3 BILLION into debt and then NIFA gives him 100 million in aid to pull the county our of it, that's not exactly helping, is it? That still left him 2.9 billion behind.
3) Once again, the only reason there was a need for a tax increase was the Reps corruption and mismanagement.
4) County debt is LOWER than before.
5) What the hell are you talking about regarding Medicaid? Medicaid WOULD have created a deficit in future years if not for the cap he helped establish.
You're an idiot if you think you can hide fhat fact that Suozzi has floated $10 million in bonds over the past three years, the tax assessment refund deficit is LARGER than it was before and the legal judgments are still sitting in abeyance besides the fact that the County LOST it's asset forfeiture appeals and still hasn't straightened out that mess. Suozzi established nothing. He did nothing except threaten people in Albany, who had already drafted medicaid spending bills and they are the ones that voted on and passed them. Look up the bills before you shoot your mouth off like Suozzi did. All the wheels were spinning long before he got on the bandwagon - which his bandwagon - never even got out of the driveway. On top of that, you might recall, unless you find it easier to sit back and call everyone else liars - that's Suozzi whole point was that he was blaming medicaid for the tax increases - after the caps - he started blaming the schools and towns and anything else he could think of. Why? Because he couldn't control his spending and refused to limit taxes or fees or housing assessments. Obviously, his year of ranting about medicaid was a lie since he kept on ranting after ward - thinking what? We'd all forget? Maybe you did. But I didn't. I am a Democrat who supported Suozzi and all I see he did was kick us all in the head. He did nothing for the party except cause division and he did less for the people who live here. He'll do absolutely nothing next year and he'll let the likes of complete morons like Reinharz and Goodman and the rest of the bunch who don't even live her - continue to spend our money, lose it and run wild with incompetence and stupidity.
The Reps in this county have to be the most shameful, lying scumbags to ever walk the Earth.[/quote]
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More and more ignorant BS. So I guess YOU are right and all the informed, credentialed, educated, independent entities, newspapers and ratings agencies know NOTHING and all have been fooled by Suozzi, right? LOL! They are all either biased, sold out or don't know what they are doing, right? ALL of them....
If you were at all interested in the truth you would know that he didn't blame Medicaid for the tax increases. He pointed how the costs of Medicaid would eventually grow to be what the taxes are, so that all our taxes would eventually be going simply to pay for Medicaid. If you had any interest in the truth you would have written that.
The fact that you would say that he is making up the stuff about the school tax being the main source of any increases is really the cherry on the sundae of your lies. This is not even in dispute anymore.
Now, if you're so smart and so interested in the truth, can you answer the question that no one on this board has been able to answer, and is such a lie that it was removed from the board 3 times because no one could answer it?
How did the Reps arrive at the 42% tax increase figure they have been spewing in all their ads? Since you seem to know so much about the inner workings of the county, I'd love to hear you explain this. And don't avoid the question. Answer it.
demigods
03-20-2010, 11:31 PM
Did I see right? I saw 3 cop cars yesterday with Peterson Bumper Stickers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can they do that ??????????????????
Cool.
They are Nassau police. They write their own rules and can do anything they please. OK!
PD rules/regs
03-21-2010, 02:12 PM
They are Nassau police. They write their own rules and can do anything they please. OK!
They certainly do taylor rules and 'policy' that violates federal laws to suit their own needs and then intimidate employees so they don't file federal complaints.
When the few and far between complaints come in from the Federal agencies, they (NCPD) play dumb that they never knew they were violating federal regualation.
and the taxpayer pays
03-21-2010, 02:51 PM
Especially hard on civilians. The civilian supervisors at 911 ask the nature of your illness when you call in sick. Then if you tell them this violates HIPPA laws they say they are told that NCPD rules supercede federal laws and you may be disciplined for not giving them further info. NCPD rules civilians by threats and intimidation. They turn one civilian employee against another.
911 operators that do the job they were hired to do already have a huge federal lawsuit against the county, filed in 2005.
AND THE TAXPAYER PAYS!!!
Wow mam
03-22-2010, 12:28 AM
Suozzi flip flops throughout his entire administration mostly because he has no conviction or substance. He supported Wang as long as Wang was shelling out money into all Suozzi's projects, and even violated the County Charter and went behind the public and the legislator's back to sign the 60 story tower that he was quoted time and again in saying how that's what he wanted for Nassau County and how what a great idea that was. Then Greg Peterson got on his back and started pulling up in the polls because Greg opposed that kind of over-developed, urbanization for Nassau County. As soon as Suozzi saw his popularity dwindle - he shook Wang loose and said he was no longer attracted to it anymore himself. His whole reign as been about flip flopping - and that's why he's accomplished nothing except spending our money the tax increases brought him. Thank god he took the State's money the Republican's got for him to start off the administration and he listened to NIFA which the Republican's also set-up and ran. Too bad he didn' t use the tax increases to pay off the accumulated debt from the tax assessments though. He's actually left Nassau in a worse predicament now. And what ever happened to all his crying about how the costs of Medicaid were going to cause a deficit? Was he lying then - or is he lying now?
Who is drivering the new CE, I think things have not changed
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