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Unregistered7287368
08-28-2009, 01:14 AM
For those who registered for a party change and are now having the party attempt to kick you out of the party. two things we can do. 1) get your wife or parents to change their party to conservative. therefore your vote still counts TWICE! 2) or if they are successful just simply rejoin the party. oh yeah FU Walsh! We are slowly becoming a political powerhouse not to be fucked with. Hope those Fed Ex overnighters cost you 10's of thousands of dollars!!! ROFL
No freedom in suffolk
08-28-2009, 09:20 AM
Isnt this America, land of the free, home of the brave. The constitution protects everybody, but I cant join a political party in suffolk county because this messes with Steve Levy's political agenda and some Judge who's in Levy and Demarcos pocket is going to entertain this so he can keep his status in the good ole boys club. This is bullshit and a violation of my amendment rights. we should sue for millions for these violations. Next my kids will get thrown out of the mickey mouse club because they dont like goofey. This is crap!!!!!
Too liberal
08-28-2009, 09:57 AM
How can the party support Levy and Demarco and then say I can't join the party because I'm not conservative enough?Sounds like crap to me.
peeper
08-28-2009, 10:08 AM
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Unregistered9820396
08-29-2009, 12:26 AM
get your family members to register conservative. seriously do it now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! your wife,,, parents,, neighbors. Fck Walsh do it!!!!
Get Real 123456
08-29-2009, 12:58 AM
How can the party support Levy and Demarco and then say I can't join the party because I'm not conservative enough?Sounds like crap to me.
NYS Election law:
§ 16-110. Proceedings as to enrollment.
2. The chairman of the county committee of a party with which a
voter is enrolled in such county, may, upon a written complaint by an enrolled
member of such party in such county and after a hearing held by him or by a
sub-committee appointed by him upon at least two days’ notice to the voter,
personally or by mail, determine that the voter is not in sympathy with the
principles of such party. The Supreme Court or a justice thereof within the
judicial district, in a proceeding instituted by a duly enrolled voter of the party
at least ten days before a primary election, shall direct the enrollment of such
voter to be cancelled if it appears from the proceedings before such chairman
or sub-committee, and other proofs, if any, presented, that such determination is just.
Unregisteredskek59
08-29-2009, 02:40 AM
You have a right to register to vote.
You have a right to vote.
You have NO right to join a political party.
See
California Democratic Party v. Jones, 530 U.S. 567 (2000) and
Washington State Grange v. Washington State Republican Party (2008)
for recent United States Supreme decisions in this area.
If the Conservatives don't want you, start your own party.
Unregistered899263092
08-29-2009, 02:46 AM
If they take away my right to vote conservative, I promise I will get my wife and parents to switch. My vote then become 3. I can't wait Mr. Walsh. kick me out plllllllease!!!!
Unregisteredwahhh
08-29-2009, 05:07 AM
dick
7m7897h65
08-29-2009, 07:45 AM
The conservative committee people came around a couple of months ago and had all of us non proper conservatives sign their nominating petitions. If we cannot be in the party does that invalidate their petitions?????
Unregisteredohtheirony
08-29-2009, 09:34 AM
The conservative committee people came around a couple of months ago and had all of us non proper conservatives sign their nominating petitions. If we cannot be in the party does that invalidate their petitions?????
I find that ironic also. Mr Walsh wants you to sign his petition to nominate Demarco and keep him around, but then you can't stay in the party because you or your family members don't like Demarco.
PD ESQ
08-29-2009, 10:05 AM
If you think for a second that Mr Walsh or Mr Bogsted for that matter really support the principles of the Conservative party then you are fooled. They care about their own agenda and have both taken over the Conservative party for their own benefit. Now Mr Walsh stands behind a law to prevent others from doing the same. Typical Long Island trash politics. Hopefully Mr Walsh's counsel has thought this through and realize that they can win the battle on this one but they can never win the war. People can re-enroll, rejects can expand their efforts and get even more people to join, or the truth about the Conservative party can be exposed. Anyway you look at it Walsh is a lame duck.
Unregistered8798
08-30-2009, 01:44 AM
Sorry, have to keep this one up top. PLEEEEEAAASE change your party to conservative. Do it now. Find someone family, friend someone!!!!
FRITZ707
08-30-2009, 01:49 AM
Sorry, have to keep this one up top. PLEEEEEAAASE change your party to conservative. Do it now. Find someone family, friend someone!!!!
NOT WITH WALSH IN CHARGE. THE GUY IS A JERK
Unregistered928362857
08-30-2009, 01:54 PM
conservative party.......switch switch switch switch. take it over!!!!!!!
True Conservatives
08-30-2009, 02:29 PM
The key to this whole thing is that Mr. Walsh got his hands on a "directive" written by the Suffolk County PBA asking all members to join the Conservative Party so Frail er could take over the party and they could boot DeMarco out.
That directive is in violation of State Election Laws. Walsh didn't even have to prove it came from Frail er or the SCPBA, he simply convened as the elective authority and threw those he felt did not join to better the party -OUT! He can also CLOSE the Party to new applicants if he feels they have been or are being "raided", (a legal term for exactly what you are proposing SCPO's do).
Not to mention you are a little late to make any difference in this next election cycle as you will not be voting as a Conservative even if they do accept you. In fact, if you change your voter affiliation on Monday morning, you cant even vote in primary races next year!
These rules are in place to maintain stabiity in parties and to keep those who would try to take over a political party at arms length. So try as you may, DeMarco has been cross endorsed by all three major parties and all three minor parties this year - so HE'S IN AGAIN WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!
He will need three years to have 20 in the system and his retirement secured and he is getting a four year term. So, YOU LOSE FRAIL er you azzhole!
Walsh is still playing a fine game of CHESS while FRAIL er continues to play checkers. My guess is he's not all that good at checkers either!
watchioyt
08-30-2009, 02:33 PM
AINT POLITICS GRAND
as they say - you better watch out what bed you sleep in cause you'r gonna wake up there in the morning
well someone may have said it
political pundit
08-30-2009, 06:33 PM
How can you have a true conservative party when all three parties endorse the same canidate? Is he a republican, democrat, or a conservative? or just a slut who will do anything to lick Levy's ass? You decide.
Very NAIVE
08-30-2009, 07:40 PM
How can you have a true conservative party when all three parties endorse the same canidate? Is he a republican, democrat, or a conservative? or just a slut who will do anything to lick Levy's ass? You decide.
DeMarco is not the first political operative to be endorsed by all three major parties, and he will not be the last. All this says about a candidate is that he is so powerful within his elected position that the other two parties realize it would be a complete waste of time and money to try and fight him for his position. Every politician on Earth would give a body part to be cross endorsed and not have to spend a dime out of their war chest for re-election. The only thing that is for sure is that while DeMarco pays absolutely nothing for his campaign this year as he runs unapposed, the next position he seeks will likely be a win for him as well because every cent he gets on fundraisers goes straight to the war chest for future campaign financing. This makes it VERY difficult for another candidate to simply arrive on the scene and beat DeMarco in the future. So while you CRYBABY little
B!TCHES continue to whine yourselves to sleep at night and write crap on here - the DeMarco camp is out there doing actual work and just gets stronger and stronger.
Enjoy the game of CHECKERS CRYBABY !
Unregisteredniave
08-30-2009, 07:59 PM
So when the conservative party goes to court saying they are a party of principle they are lying? Can't have it both ways throwing people out of your party because they don't belive in the party and then standing behind the winner who doesnt support your views...
Unregistered872487
08-31-2009, 03:38 PM
to all Leos.........go to "elections.state.ny.us/" now, on the left click on "voting information" you can now check your registered party. you can also easily download the change party enrollment form. fill it out with yours or your spouses info and mail it in to join the conservative party. Lets make some changes. It will seriously take you like 3 minutes to print and fill out. remember U n i t y
10-51
08-31-2009, 03:48 PM
I'm one of those 1500 that they are suing, but i just followed your instructions and printed it out for my husband which he filled out and will mail in tomorrow. and eye for and eye as they say lol IF they even get me out. Hope others will join me
Unregistered65465
08-31-2009, 04:00 PM
What happened today in Riverhead?
Umpire
08-31-2009, 08:43 PM
800 cops thrown out! More tomorrow!!!
Unregistered723598
08-31-2009, 09:28 PM
cause if that's true my understanding is i can rejoin the next day
conservative par-tay
08-31-2009, 09:35 PM
conservative party.......
Is that like when you only drink a little?
Election Law 101
08-31-2009, 09:52 PM
cause if that's true my understanding is i can rejoin the next day
And you will be thrown out again next year!!
cashcowsss
08-31-2009, 10:06 PM
Then I will make the conservative party pay to do all over again. How much money do they have to keep up this fight. Vinny will have to make a little payment to the party to keep up this fight. I will join every year until they are out of cash.
PBA Dues Payer
08-31-2009, 10:12 PM
And the PBA will keep paying as well. Enough already. I want my $28 bi weekly back.
endofFrailer&hischickNoel
08-31-2009, 10:19 PM
It is only going to get less expensive each year for the conservative party. The party is filled with attorney's who will do it for free. They may pay this year but in the future their own attorney's will just follow the script from this year and with the case law established the PBA will be laughed out of the court.
Not too sure?
08-31-2009, 11:04 PM
Then I will make the conservative party pay to do all over again. How much money do they have to keep up this fight. Vinny will have to make a little payment to the party to keep up this fight. I will join every year until they are out of cash.
I am not sure what it costs the Conservative Party to show up, but it cost 78 cops a nice sunny day off away from their families and the cost of the coffee truck in the lot. I think the PBA is laying out quite a bundle on legal fees as well. In another classic azzhole move, Jeff FRAILer and the henchmen tried to oust the Judge? No kidding, they tried to have the Judge recuse himself because for some half baked and idiotic reason. He refused and now he is likely very pissed off! Way to go Jeffey, where did you pull that playbook from? (How to f-ck up a wet dream in two minutes flat?). You guys never cease to amaze anyone watching. You just cant make this sh!t up. The PBA immediately stacked the deck against themselves. Of course the Judge will continue to be unbiased and hear the case as though this never happened. RIGHT! . . . and SANTA CLAUSE is coming to town. MORONS!
Still playing checkers Jeff ??? Such a f-cking idiot!
Unregisteredooo
08-31-2009, 11:51 PM
Jeff is a bull in a china shop... he always was... and playing this STUPID party switching game was a bonehead move! Did he think that grabbing a second tier party nomination away from those he had a problem with was going to work? Sure... someone that he was pissed at won by a small margin.... and IF you took away all the votes from party "X" he would have lost... but come on... this raid was right from the Jeffy book of tactics... overwhelming numbers overrunning and enemy position... might work in Risk and on the battlefields of old... but not in politics today!
Jeff and the boys have to support those candidates that are pro-police... get a better public relations program going (NO NOT THOSE ADS!)... and wise up! Now we have Tom Muratore running.... WONDERFUL... another timebomb waiting to blow up in our faces!
This union needs some new direction... some new ideas... and some folks that are willing to QUESTION Jeffy's moves... it about time!
Uh - Oh, your R done
09-01-2009, 08:28 AM
Jeff is a bull in a china shop... he always was... and playing this STUPID party switching game was a bonehead move! Did he think that grabbing a second tier party nomination away from those he had a problem with was going to work? Sure... someone that he was pissed at won by a small margin.... and IF you took away all the votes from party "X" he would have lost... but come on... this raid was right from the Jeffy book of tactics... overwhelming numbers overrunning and enemy position... might work in Risk and on the battlefields of old... but not in politics today!
Jeff and the boys have to support those candidates that are pro-police... get a better public relations program going (NO NOT THOSE ADS!)... and wise up! Now we have Tom Muratore running.... WONDERFUL... another timebomb waiting to blow up in our faces!
This union needs some new direction... some new ideas... and some folks that are willing to QUESTION Jeffy's moves... it about time!
There you go talking that "TRUTH" stuff again? What in the hell were you thinking man? They will be coming for you, as sure as I am sitting here watching it all unfold, they will be coming for you. The PBA doesn't take kindly to personal attacks on them as a group or on the "KINGPIN" Jeffey FRAILer as he is currently called. Keep your head down man, a storm is coming.
lameazz
09-01-2009, 08:54 AM
I am not sure what it costs the Conservative Party to show up, but it cost 78 cops a nice sunny day off away from their families and the cost of the coffee truck in the lot.
Still playing checkers Jeff ??? Such a f-cking idiot!
It cost the party over 200 bucks for each cop to show...chaching
PBA Strong
09-01-2009, 09:36 AM
And the PBA will keep paying as well. Enough already. I want my $28 bi weekly back.
Then go sign up for the deps and pay their union dues you fargin traitor.
Unregisteredooo
09-01-2009, 09:39 AM
There you go talking that "TRUTH" stuff again? What in the hell were you thinking man? They will be coming for you, as sure as I am sitting here watching it all unfold, they will be coming for you. The PBA doesn't take kindly to personal attacks on them as a group or on the "KINGPIN" Jeffey FRAILer as he is currently called. Keep your head down man, a storm is coming.
Come now... if the boys are are effective as they have been with all the other bonehead moves they've pulled... I'm not all that worried my friend... but thanks for the heads up! LOL
The board has to get their act together and start from scratch now... they've painted themselves into a corner and forgot that they were dealing with a madman and an idiot... the tough guy act doesn't cut it these days, there's too many taxpayers out there hurting that are shifting their support from law enforcement to ANYONE (Levy) that can bullsh*t them into thinking he's going to save them money. But let's face it... even if Stevie managed to cut the police budget 20% (never going to happen)... it saves the average taxpayer $120-$160 per year.... and the REALITY is that $10-$15 dollars a month is NOT going to save most folks from the financial mess out there.
The PBA has to start using the public relations money to do PUBLIC RELATIONS! NOT Ads! Hold a "Kid safe" event once a month around the county... Sponsor a safe driving program for teens.... Do "Protecting yourself from scams" events for seniors.... Do free fingerprinting and child car seat inspections at the PBA office and give the kids tee shirts! ANYTHING that get our NAME and CAUSE out there to the public and gives something back to the taxpayers!!! There are 5 full-time release guys in that office... so you can't tell me we haven't got the people to do it! Besides... they're getting built in OT for all the "extra" stuff they do... so how about earning some of it! lol
There are TONS of things we can do that would be such a better value for our money than radio and TV ads! SHOW THEM YOU CARE... instead of telling them you care!
Just my two cents... DW
True Dat
09-01-2009, 01:15 PM
Someone with a clue!
Legal Fees$$$$$$
09-02-2009, 11:04 AM
It cost the party over 200 bucks for each cop to show...chaching
Yeah, but they approximately 3/4 of a million dollars in their treasury, as opposed to the 300 thousand the SCPBA has. Not to mention that the Conservative Party has regular income, rental properties, and regular donations well above what the PBA takes each month in dues. In addition, If you were there yesterday, then you saw the Judge, (3X), tell your buffoon of an attorney to "stick to the subject matter at hand" and "move along counselor" and "thank you for the political history lesson". Each time the PBA counsel strayed he was doing so in an attempt to stretch this whole thing out a few more days so he can Kaching the piss out of the PBA. It has been mentioned that to date the PBA legal bill on this is over $12,000.00, once they lose, the Conservatives have already said they will ask for damages and legal fees - which is allowed under election law if someone attempts to "Raid" your party. So this whole process is going to cost the PBA a truckload of money, just to be left without a seat when the music stops.
Then we'll talk about how much your PBA is losing in fees on the PERB case, where even if they win, they cant recoup the legal fees as it is not allowed.
Then we can talk about the money your PBA is throwing out the window in the contract fights/binding arbitration with the County.
Then we can talk about the Mercedes that FRAILer is currently driving, and the BRAND NEW ONE HE TEST DROVE TWO WEEKS AGO ???????????
Sounds like the only ones that are bleeding cash right now and in the near future are you dumb bastards. But hey, keep posting your lies and your Rah-Rah bullsh!t, maybe your membership wont notice when you beat them over the head AGAIN for another $28.00 each in "Emergency Funds", Ie: Mercedes Money!
COPY CATS ?
09-02-2009, 11:10 AM
The PBA has to start using the public relations money to do PUBLIC RELATIONS! NOT Ads! Hold a "Kid safe" event once a month around the county... Sponsor a safe driving program for teens.... Do "Protecting yourself from scams" events for seniors.... Do free fingerprinting and child car seat inspections at the PBA office and give the kids tee shirts! ANYTHING that get our NAME and CAUSE out there to the public and gives something back to the taxpayers!!! There are 5 full-time release guys in that office... so you can't tell me we haven't got the people to do it! Besides... they're getting built in OT for all the "extra" stuff they do... so how about earning some of it! lol
There are TONS of things we can do that would be such a better value for our money than radio and TV ads! SHOW THEM YOU CARE... instead of telling them you care!
Just my two cents... DW[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that sounds great - lets copy all the stuff DeMarco is doing that we publicly made fun of him for? You sir are an idiot. We are cops and don't want to get involved with a bunch of bullsnot that will cost us a bunch of cabbage while in the end the public will still side with the Midget, the Puppet, and the Shrimp!
Lifetime Conservative
09-02-2009, 06:23 PM
This post appears under the "Suffolk County Issues" Forum dated 09/07/09. Pretty interesting stuff from outside law enforcement threads!!
EW is compromised
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yes ew has to go he had that and several other skeletons. This got him rejected by the nypd(dirty urine) and rejected by the sheriffs dept until pappy w came and talked it out with the sheriff at the time amazing what a little chat can do. now he has abandoned the principles of our party to help himself. Cross endorsing people who are truly not anywhere near our principles is a bad thing. it does not matter what they believe in. ew wants to be an undersheriff but does not realize that with his past they will not let him. to be fair to demarco he was not involved with the decision to hire ew but based on the fact that he failed to make him undersheriff i bet he now holds that info too. time to step down and stop being a bully ew, you had promise once but now you lost your way.
prepare for the "tsunami"
Unregisteredueufuvuxiais
09-02-2009, 06:46 PM
holy shit.................this is the head of the conservative party? where the F is SPOTA?
FAIRY Tales
09-02-2009, 11:05 PM
This post appears under the "Suffolk County Issues" Forum dated 09/07/09. Pretty interesting stuff from outside law enforcement threads!!
EW is compromised
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yes ew has to go he had that and several other skeletons. This got him rejected by the nypd(dirty urine) and rejected by the sheriffs dept until pappy w came and talked it out with the sheriff at the time amazing what a little chat can do. now he has abandoned the principles of our party to help himself. Cross endorsing people who are truly not anywhere near our principles is a bad thing. it does not matter what they believe in. ew wants to be an undersheriff but does not realize that with his past they will not let him. to be fair to demarco he was not involved with the decision to hire ew but based on the fact that he failed to make him undersheriff i bet he now holds that info too. time to step down and stop being a bully ew, you had promise once but now you lost your way.
prepare for the "tsunami"
Funny, I heard all of this before except they were talking about FAT JEFFEY FRAIL er, not EW. Draw any conclusions you want, but a quick check revealed EW never applied for NYPD - no print record from them - so I guess you are just completely full of sh!t.
Not surprised. PBA playbook page 2, LIE, CHEAT, STEAL, FABRICATE - do whatever you have to do to embarass the enemy at all costs. Even if it means taking a decent man and throwing his name, (in this case his initials), into the gutter. I guess FRAIL er knows the end is VERY near as he is grasping for straws at this point.
Unregisteredooo
09-02-2009, 11:54 PM
"Yeah, that sounds great - lets copy all the stuff DeMarco is doing that we publicly made fun of him for? You sir are an idiot. We are cops and don't want to get involved with a bunch of bullsnot that will cost us a bunch of cabbage while in the end the public will still side with the Midget, the Puppet, and the Shrimp!"
Well then the answer is to let Jeff and the boys continue on the same path... take more money from us for dues and "other" expenses... let them continue to spend it as THEY SEE FIT WITHOUT TELLING YOU WHO AND WHAT THEY SPEND IT on.... have you EVER gotten a year end PBA budget statement? They send out a "proposed" budget each year... but NEVER let you see how they REALLY spend the money... and how about the PBA rental income? Where is that going? If I have you right you're happy to let them stay the same course that's put us in this position... and in the end... piss and moan about it.... seems to me they don't have a clue at the moment.... and this whole party switch idea was nothing more than a bad idea that NEVER had any chance of a good outcome.... having debated this move with my delegate and listening to the "logic" they were sold made NO SENSE whatsoever!
The way Jeff and the boys are running things these days... it's going to get more and more expensive to stay in business... but I'm sure you have lots of time and money to throw away while these guys pull these bonehead moves... and when it all goes bad.... they just BAIL OUT.... and the union (and its members) are left with the mess!
Unregisteredhah
09-03-2009, 01:04 AM
Come now... if the boys are are effective as they have been with all the other bonehead moves they've pulled... I'm not all that worried my friend... but thanks for the heads up! LOL
The board has to get their act together and start from scratch now... they've painted themselves into a corner and forgot that they were dealing with a madman and an idiot... the tough guy act doesn't cut it these days, there's too many taxpayers out there hurting that are shifting their support from law enforcement to ANYONE (Levy) that can bullsh*t them into thinking he's going to save them money. But let's face it... even if Stevie managed to cut the police budget 20% (never going to happen)... it saves the average taxpayer $120-$160 per year.... and the REALITY is that $10-$15 dollars a month is NOT going to save most folks from the financial mess out there.
The PBA has to start using the public relations money to do PUBLIC RELATIONS! NOT Ads! Hold a "Kid safe" event once a month around the county... Sponsor a safe driving program for teens.... Do "Protecting yourself from scams" events for seniors.... Do free fingerprinting and child car seat inspections at the PBA office and give the kids tee shirts! ANYTHING that get our NAME and CAUSE out there to the public and gives something back to the taxpayers!!! There are 5 full-time release guys in that office... so you can't tell me we haven't got the people to do it! Besides... they're getting built in OT for all the "extra" stuff they do... so how about earning some of it! lol
There are TONS of things we can do that would be such a better value for our money than radio and TV ads! SHOW THEM YOU CARE... instead of telling them you care!
Just my two cents... DW
"Hey, if you don't like it then run for office, or stfu!!! Anyone can run!"
Unregisterediuiuihjghb
09-03-2009, 10:27 AM
Funny, I heard all of this before except they were talking about FAT JEFFEY FRAIL er, not EW. Draw any conclusions you want, but a quick check revealed EW never applied for NYPD - no print record from them - so I guess you are just completely full of sh!t.
Not surprised. PBA playbook page 2, LIE, CHEAT, STEAL, FABRICATE - do whatever you have to do to embarass the enemy at all costs. Even if it means taking a decent man and throwing his name, (in this case his initials), into the gutter. I guess FRAIL er knows the end is VERY near as he is grasping for straws at this point.
Nice try pecker if you really did your quick check you would have found multiple felony collars and would not be posting here
FELONY COLLARS?
09-04-2009, 01:53 AM
Nice try pecker if you really did your quick check you would have found multiple felony collars and would not be posting here
I never knew FRAILer was collared for felonies? Which ones? I bet they are all sex crimes right? He is such a big fat ugly b!tch it is no wonder he has to pay for sex. As he is so stupid and pompous, it is also no wonder that he got nabbed in a few tight spots.
funny troller
09-04-2009, 07:36 AM
I never knew FRAILer was collared for felonies? Which ones? I bet they are all sex crimes right? He is such a big fat ugly b!tch it is no wonder he has to pay for sex. As he is so stupid and pompous, it is also no wonder that he got nabbed in a few tight spots.
You dont know what the fuck is going on do you?
LOL!!!
SEX OFFENDER ?
09-04-2009, 11:43 PM
I never knew FRAILer was collared for felonies? Which ones? I bet they are all sex crimes right? He is such a big fat ugly b!tch it is no wonder he has to pay for sex. As he is so stupid and pompous, it is also no wonder that he got nabbed in a few tight spots.
I didn't know this either, come on back and tell us more. I knew there was something maniacal about frayler, just couldn't put my finger on it. I just thought he was the usual POMPOUS AZZ PO? Go figure, a sex offender?
FATSO POMPOSITY
09-09-2009, 06:19 AM
It was another day of PBA beatdowns at the Conservative hearings on Tuesday. So while many of you feel like a million bucks and your union might spend a million bucks, to everyone watching you look like a cheap two dollar suit someone bought at the Salvation Army Thrift Store. What say you oh JEFFER of FATSOLAND? Still think your attempts to take over the Conservative Party were well thought out? NOPE!
Keep playing CHECKERS BEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTCCCCHHHHHHH !
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