Tim Bishop Holds Town Hall Meeting at East Sachem HS 6:30pm 8-27-09 Thursday

[Hear ye hear ye olde]

The congressman from the first congressional district- Democrat Progressive Tim Bishop will be at East Sachem HS on Granny road in Farmingville tonight at 6:30pm. On this day Thursday, 8-27-09 Timm Bishop will be there with his entourage of union officials and acorn agitators from outside his district. These outsiders will be there to keep the constituents of Mr.Bishop in line so that Bishop can give us the dogma of why the government needs to take over healthcare. The good congressman can also explain why we are prosecuting American CIA agents who interrogated Muslim mass killers of American citizens because they blew smoke in the terrorists faces and kept them from sleeping in order to get info to save American women children men from being slaughtered. We can also ask the good congressman why Cap and Trade and our trillions of dollars in debt is nothing to worry about. Also why is their obscure provisions in the healthcare bill to give illegal aliens healthcare coverage? Should be an interesting evening.

[Unregisteredp]

Tim Bishop stacked the auditorium with union representatives, acorn people, college students,progressive organizations etc nearly two hours before the rest of us were allowed in. The pro-government takeover of healthcare people had buses parked outside. Most of Bishop supporters were from outside the 1st congressional district. One well dressed union president supporting Bishop was not allowed to talk by the crowd because he and most of his union people were not in Bishop's district. The union bosses had the rank and file carrying neatly printed professional signs supporting the Dems take over of the healthcare industry while those opposed had hand written signs. The elderly and veterans and many middle age people opposed Bishop and his use of outsiders to make it appear his support was larger than it really was.

Hats off to the Suffolk County Police Department along with school district personnel, fire department personnel, town officials who made this event happen quite smoothly despite the emotions involved.

[Unregisterednobama]

I got stuck at work, please anyone that was there elaborate!

[Unregisteredyudy]

Bishop is done in 2010 if he continues to ignore the people of his district. On re election day I can guess voter turnout to boot his ass out of office will be huge.

[centrist]

Bishop is done in 2010 if he continues to ignore the people of his district. On re election day I can guess voter turnout to boot his ass out of office will be huge.

Bishop made sure his union people were there. SEIU and CWA were wearing their red and purple jerseys. Teachers unions were there along with college students for progressive change along with older left wing types. Majority of the crowd were angry senior citizens along with many veterans and some conservative groups who seemed to be finally awakened into protesting.

Crowd booed off a union president for he and most of his followers were bused into the meeting from outside the 1st district where they live. I say 60% of the crowd was against Bishop and the democrats and their health takeover plan and 30% were for it with many of them from other congressional districts. The grass roots people had homemade signs while all the democrats special interest groups had professionally made signs.

Security was tight and well thought out.

[Unregistered98765]

I was not able to make the meeting but understand that the opponents also had a number of people from outside the district. The problem is that this relatively small sample of voters does not necessarily represent the feelings of the district as a whole. Saying that Bishop will be thrown out of office because there were a large number of angry people at this meeting is an emotional, but not necessarily accurate statement. I live in the district and the majority of my family and friends support health care reform.

[SonnyDe]

MY REPORT OF THE HAPPENINGS OUTSIDE TIM BISHOP'S TOWN HALL MEETING.
posted by, Sonny @ www.resistnet.com - NY CD#2 District Coordinator 8-27-09

Unfortunately I did not make it inside to the auditorium. The line even as I arrived approx 45minutes early was formed some 3-400 people long and 6-7 abreast. From what I could get from campus security the main auditorium holds approx 800 people (?) and it was filled to capacity and beyond. Outside where I was relinquished to mingle among the 'left overs' contained another 2-300 people anxious to be heard.

Planned parenthood was there as was ACORN, several union members and SEIU. If I was to calculate the division of pro and anti Obama health care reform mouth pieces I would put it at 75% against to 25% for.

The outside musings of, us, the 'left out' crowd quickly drew battle lines, staked their territories and the shouting began. Although I tried to just take pictures my mouth and highly sensitive ears for picking up ignorance kept getting myself in minor skirmishes. I've learned to pick my fights and arguments, but sometimes the best lessons learned are put aside when emotions go on overdrive. I did keep a cool head and argued with decisive points which mean little to the ones who want 'Obamacare' at any cost, literally.

As fate would have it I found myself entangled in a controlled debate with two men who had a video crew film our exchange. We first cleared the air on what exactly we were each for and against. It happened we both wanted the same thing, health care reform; it was how to bring about it that we differed.

They of course wanted the government to control the health-care and that is where we parted in ideologies. After some braking down of the governments past performances and historic track record running social programs he actually conceded that I had a legitimate concern. (as if I needed his endorsement). But it turned out to be a constructive 'discussion' and points were made and listened to and as I said he acknowledged government is a 'concern', so who knows where that seed will end up.

All in all it was an eventful evening even considering being shut out, but certainly not shut up. There were lot's of name calling, shouting, pushing and I even witnessed an elbow thrown, but the police for the most part just had to handle crowd control. And a robust crowd it was!

I appeal once again to our groups, refrain from name calling and trying to just shout down the other voices. Solid control and command of the issues will get peoples attention. One rather loud, very loud, woman tried shutting me down over the issue of abortion. She screamed, the Hyde Amendment protects against funding for abortion! I simple responded, that the Hyde Amendment applies to Medicaid and doesn't bar States from funding them. It also has loopholes such as if the 'health' of the mother is in danger. She had nothing to say back and from the midst of the crowd I heard someone yell, is that true? It is and everyone needs to educate themselves on the truth, I said. They all looked surprised. For a moment it was quiet, ahhh, just for a moment. Then the shouting started up again, I walked away.

Many was listening at my video tapped exchange (who knows haw many more will see the tape) and although I knew I probably wasn't going to win them over, I'll never know, who was listening in the background, may have been swayed our way. After all, isn't that the point of debating in the first place?

-Sonny, www.resistnet.com NY CD#2 District Coordinator.

[SonnyDe]

I didn't want to overlook the excellent security done at this event. The campus security force were everywhere and yet restrained. Suffolk County Police Dept. had a very tempered, civil approach that allowed freedom to express yourself while protecting the safety and welfare of the crowd. No easy balancing act, but they pulled it off. My thank you to our men and woman in uniform locally and around the globe! God-bless you all.

[Unregisteredpsq]

I was not able to make the meeting but understand that the opponents also had a number of people from outside the district. The problem is that this relatively small sample of voters does not necessarily represent the feelings of the district as a whole. Saying that Bishop will be thrown out of office because there were a large number of angry people at this meeting is an emotional, but not necessarily accurate statement. I live in the district and the majority of my family and friends support health care reform.

But they do vote ! Bishop is in hot water. The elites from where Bishop resides in Southampton will not be able to sustain his re election. Obama is doing all he can to make it happen.

[Friar Tuck]

As for bankrupting the country, I'm a fiscal conservative who believes that if you want something, you should pay as you go & not get into debt, that goes for the government, businesses & people. If you want to cut taxes, everything must be cut, not "it's pork & waistful government spending unless it's something that I want" attitude.

[Unregistereddem]

I've been reading where liberals when asked say that Bishop had a lot more supporters than he actually did. They also don't mention that most of his supporters where from the unions that get government contracts.

[Here We All Are]

I'm so sure that if your son or daughter was out of work, had children, and had NO health insurance...and suddenly got very sick...you would CERTAINLY pay for all the care they need to receive. I'm SURE of that. I know that most of you can afford at least a hundred thousand dollars in cash for any operation/hospitalization they might receive. So I'm not surprised that you are against a public health plan.

Thanks for being so ready to assume responsibility for your own families. I admire that.

And...if YOU suddenly find yourself out of work, out of health insurance, and not yet on Medicare, I'm sure your children will be ready to take the costs of your care onto themselves.

That's the American way, after all!

[Unregisteredalien]

I'm so sure that if your son or daughter was out of work, had children, and had NO health insurance...and suddenly got very sick...you would CERTAINLY pay for all the care they need to receive. I'm SURE of that. I know that most of you can afford at least a hundred thousand dollars in cash for any operation/hospitalization they might receive. So I'm not surprised that you are against a public health plan.

Thanks for being so ready to assume responsibility for your own families. I admire that.

And...if YOU suddenly find yourself out of work, out of health insurance, and not yet on Medicare, I'm sure your children will be ready to take the costs of your care onto themselves.

That's the American way, after all!

just show up at the ER at hospital and American taxpayers do the rest gracias