Nassau County Police Hiring???

[Rob47]

Hey guys,

Figured I'd get this one going for all of you.
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[Dunk21x]

(This message was left blank) Edited by: Dunk21x at: 11/29/04 8:16 pm

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[CC On]

Civil service has approved candidates. Sometime this month for the medical phase.

[Barney35]

I guess we no longer have access to the old posts. Too bad because there was some valuable info in some of them. I hope this can be looked into. Anyway, keep us posted Dunk!

[Johnson]

I just called civil service to try and get some info as to what's on the agility test. They said they will be sending out a letter with that info after you pass the medical, phycological, and receive a conditional offer of employement. So basically it seems like the agility test is going to be the last phase before the academy.
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[civil service]

What happened to the old thread? All that great stuff was deleted? I hope we can get access to some older posts.

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[me]

i scored an 89.3 and got a list number in the 700's. But never received anything else.
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[NYDIESEL]

same here 89.4 ..... list in the low 700's..... nothing...... hopefully we make the second wave!
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[JD]

120-150 estimate
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[me]

so if they want more than 100 for a class, then they need to call like 1000 people and weed out 900 right?
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[NYDIESEL]

nah.... i dont think that many.....1000 to weed out 900 sounds a bit much to me..... but then again what do i know? its already april and if we havent received a letter to start the investigation i think that means its too late for the first wave..... keep running though.... u never know!
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[me]

well i know the civil service as well as the investigators usually say they hire 1 out of every 7 to 10 candidates. once you take into consideration people who dont show because they have other jobs and arent going to leave, people who fail the drug test, hearing, eyes, etc. then you also have people with blemished pasts, or ones who just took the test incase they dont get the job they really want (fall back on). as far as the academy, anyone i talked to says its not too tough. i think running is like a mile and a half in 12 minutes is the goal. to be honest, i dont know if thats hard or not. i dont really time myself. then theres just push ups, sit ups, and the such.
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[me]

i think the only way they dont weed out like 7 out of 10 is if there arent alot of high scores. they like to hire the people with high marks. otherwise, like it seems with this test, they will be hiring into the low grades like 70's. which is scary if you think about it!
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[WORD]

Hiring people with "low grades" like the 70's is not at all scary. I'm sure you're a sharp enough person to realize that this test was a joke. Bottom line, your score on this test has nothing to do with how smart or qualified you really are. Those who scored in the 90's and above are no better educated or qualified for this job. You could make a case that those who scored higher are actually less qualified than those who were in the middle of the pack. I did well on this exam so its not sour grapes. I'm just amused that some of the younger folks who did well on this test actually think that they are better or smarter than those below them. Research the testing guidelines for Nassau and Sufffolk over the past ten years. Its not meant for the well-educated whites.
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[me]

i didnt mean to insult anyone who didnt score to high on this exam. all i meant was that if you are interested in a career in law enforcment, you should have, and would have checked prior tests to give you an undestanding of what they will be asking. this has nothing to do with your level of education or a persons IQ. it has to do with be adaptable, like a police officer should be, and using technics that will help you problem solve, also, a characteristic of a police officer. again, i didnt mean to insult anyone, but if you scored low on this exam, you didnt research at all or you just had a bad day.
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[WORD]

I scored in the high 80's and you didn't insult me at all. I wish the old posts were here so you could go back and see what many qualified people had to say about this test. This includes current NCPD officers who said the test measured nothing to determine the type of cop you would be. This test had a single purpose....giving minorities a chance to score high. Research Landy-Jacobs(the company that makes the test) and you'll see what I mean. There were city sergeants with masters degree's who FAILED this test. What was your score anyway? Again, I'm not trying to insult you, its just that this was all addressed in the old thread. People who scored poorly have nothing to be ashamed of.
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[me]

i wasnt saying anything about the people who scored low. all i was saying is that if you wanted to score high, all you had to do was research nassau tests. about this test aimed at helping minorities, you could not be more mistaken! as a matter of fact, this test was exactly the opposite! prior tests show that of the last 3 tests for police officer in nassau county, this one will prove to have the highest minority failure rate! i do my homework before i write, i suggest you do the same. telling me lawyers and sergeants failed means nothing to me! it shouldnt mean anything to you either. being a lawyer or a sergeant does not make someone a good test taker. a good test taker could be anyone! some people can look at just the answers to a question, and without seeing the question, narrow the answer down to 2 possible answers.if you dont believe me, call any sat prep school, or law prep school or any med. prep school and ask if thats what they teach. you will see i am correct. once again i didnt mean to insult anyone, however saying to the people who did score high, that this test was a horrible test insults the people who did score high. the people who scored high researched tests and/or are good test takers. that is my only point.
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[me]

also, a civil service test in not aloud to test what kind of anything you would be! that wouldnt be fair so they did away with questions directly pertaining to the job. oh and i scored high 80's as well. but still not called for anything.
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[WORD]

Seriously, did you really take this test? What was your score again? This test was made up of mostly BS questions about yourself. There can't actually be a right or wrong answer. There was however, partial credit given which means some answers are better than others. Why do you think the scores were taken out two decimal places? PARTIAL CREDIT! The truth is that many of the answers that they were looking for had nothing to do with how qualified for the job you were. I agree that many people that scored well most likely would have on any test. My problem is that some of the background questions(which you better have been honest about and not answered the way some tutorial told you to) probably weeded out many well-qualified people based on their "ideal" candidate. If you really took this 100 question embarrassment of a test you would be honest with yourself and admit it was not a good exam for this job.

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[me]

the test asked questions that had answers that werent right or worng, but answers that they wanted to hear, answers that in there opinion, would make a person a good candidate. if you were as honest as possible, you gave them a general description of your personality type whether you knew it or not. since when did being a cop mean you had to be smart? if that were the case you would need a college degree for the job. lets not forget what civil service was created for! however, it was still a test, meaning that if you were to put an answer that you bent the truth on, you wont be diqualified because it was a TEST, you coulda been low on time and just filled in answers to finish or you coulda guessed on some that u werent sure of. dont mistake this for the suffolk scandal a few years ago! you just needed to answer to the best your memory serves. anyway, have you heard anything from civil service or you just waiting like me?
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[aaach]

I believe there was some statement that you had to sign on answer sheet indicating that the answers you give to the biographical questions would be furnished to the investigators in the future and that false statements would be grounds for disqualification. It would be tough to prove unless you didn't even come close to matching your profile (i.e. something like a 21 year old with 5 years of full time work, military veteran and a graduate degree).

The company that designed the NCPD test is Aon Consulting (remember the pre-test website they had up), not Landy Jacobs (now SHL or something like that?) they did SCPD's exam. To be honest, I did not see many minorities or women as candidates called up to the initial screening that I went to a few weeks back.


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[Johnson]

Word, Did you ever think NCPD wouldn't want city sergeants? It's possible the test was designed that way.
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[WORD]

Final thought, if you guys remember, this test had only 20-40 questions which measured anything close to intelligence. The rest was a joke...plain and simple. Me, I scored an 87.something. I haven't heard anything yet from Civil Service. We've heard that they're down to about an 89.something. Aaach, there are so many articles about the Nassau and Suffolk tests from 10 years ago that confirm the issue with testing with minorities in mind. Nassau and Suffolk had problems with their testing methods in the past. I'm willing to let this go so we can get back to solid information, but I will always believe that these current exams are not meant to help the counties hire the "best" candidates. It will help them hire the most diverse(based on the new testing methods) candidates. I mean no disrespect to anyone who took this exam. Me and Aaach make some solid points as well.

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[WORD]

Your statement backs up what I've been saying. They are not looking for the most QUALIFIED candidates. I hope your not suggesting that Nassau would look unfavorably upon an established law enforcement candidate.

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[Lou]

The NCPD test was a psych test....basically the same test the NYPD gives for the written psych. You have to answer the questions liek you are Mother Theresa and be sure to not contridict yourself.
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[Johnson]

My statements where just a suggestion... something to think about...

I'll also add, when I went down to NCC on 1/31 there where about 5 police officers from other departments in my group of about 25 applicants. So I'm sure there are many officers from NYPD and other departments who did do well on the test.

It wasn't a hard test. I think we can all agree on that. If you knew how to take the test than you did well. We knew it was a personality trait test it was before we all took it. Yes... some people probably lied their way through the test but that will all come out during the background investigation.
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[me]

did anyone on here score an 89 or lower and hear from civil service? my list number is in the low 700's and i heard nothing. also does anyone know how many candidates are needed to fill a class? and maybe when the class might be? thanks
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[NYDIESEL]

from what i understand there are three classes scheduled.... july 04, jan 05, and july 05 all totaling 400+ cops.
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[Lou]

My list # is in the low 700's as well. I'm told to expect to definetly be called for the 2nd class.
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[NYDIESEL]

it sounds like we are in the same boat lou.... who told u that u would make the second class? anybody reliable?
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[JD]

Wow, that means there are about 700-800 people between 86 and 89. I'm in the 1500's and I scored 86.something. It might be awhile!

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[Johnson]

They called 300 - 400 for the first clase so you would have to figure if your in the 700s you'll get called for the 2nd class. That's just my thoughts.
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[JD]

I understood that they made it down to 89.0 at a list number of 650-700. I think(from what I've read and heard) that your numbers of 300-400 are a bit low. Anyone who can substantiate this?

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[SmallFry]

I scored an 87+

and my list is one-thosand something

Hence the list numbers given make no sense

[JD]

I'm not sure I get what you're saying. You say your number is 1000something....1058 or 1400? The difference is big. If you're saying its 1048, then you are correct. That would be a 400-500 difference. The only possible(and doubtful) explanation for that would be ties. We've heard of no ties yet on this board.

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[Lou]

My sourse is very very reliable. I'm told they called to about 700 so far. I have a small chance for this class but definetly the 2nd.

Also those who scored all the way down to 84 have a chance of being called for the 2nd....but most likely the 3rd class.
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[NY101]

jd, I got a grade of 89+ and a list number below 700. Haven't heard anything yet. So my guess is they haven't made it near 700 yet.

[PT]

No one is denying that this test was hard. I walked out of the test thinking I did well, a failing score proved me wrong. This test was created so that NC could hire the people who fit a certain mold. The people who answered how the county wanted them to answer got the higher grades. The right answers were the ones that an "ideal candidate" would answer with.

No other civil service test has been so unfair. Aside from the first 20 questions everything was a psych test. How can you hire from a test that grades someones opinions.

Very few people I know actually passed the exam, including many of whom were already cops in the NYPD. Good for those of you who passed, but personally no one should be hired based on their opinions and the only place this test should go is the garbage, and a fair test given over again.

[Jag]

Get over it. The only reason you are complaining is because you failed. If you passed you would have nothing bad to say about the test. Dry your eye.

[Hello]

Not True I know plenty of people who scored in the 80's and above who thought the test was garbage, look it was very subjective, they say they investigate the bio, i want to know how many people answered 0 to the amount of times they were late during the year at work

you think they will check employment records to find the real answer

[Jag]

how do you know that 0 is the answer they want to hear?

[Lou]

With any test you will have people who are upset with the format or questions and results. I did decent on this test in the low 700#'s but others I have not done as well.

Just keep taking tests...take MTA, Port, Suffolk, Court Officer...tests in other states....something will call sooner or later.
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[Lou]

BTW...don't take the NYPD job...save you some heartache.
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[NYDIESEL]

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[SmallFry]

Why is the NYPD such an Heart ache Lou

[NY101]

nice eye test. You got me on the last one
(upper 80's, upper 600's, nothing yet, still waiting)

[JD]

Lou, any idea of what grade they might stop at for the second class? I know you said down to 84 might make one or the other. If they're starting at 89.something how far down might they go for another 100-150?

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[Johnson]

"you think they will check employment records to find the real answer"

Yes they do. My investigator sent out letters to my former employers and that was one of the questions. I'm sure some investigators may even call or visit your old jobs.
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[Lou]

Jd...I'm not 100% sure what exact grade they will call to. But my source said my friend who had and 84 has a chance to get called for probably the 3rd class. I suspect the 2nd class will be 89 and below...depends on how many make it past the physical for the class coming up...I'm sure alot of people will drop like flies...you never know.

As for the person with the NYPD question. I really would not recommend the job....the job is dead. You are a tool of the city...your job as a NYPD officer is not to fight crime...it's to issue as many C summonses and parkers in a month as you can...and make petty arrests or serious ones which are always reduced to a Misdeameanor to make the city look safer and your bosses even better.

The city always looks for ways to jam you up and fire you so they don't get sued. That's why they are always sending us to useless training sessions. It's a was to cover their ass. Plus if you don't play the game as they want you to...make arrests, write summonses...you will be denied days off....given crappy tours...etc.

As for new recruits still looking to join the NYPD.....start saving your money now...you'll need $4,000 of your own money to pay for uniforms, leather, shoes, vests...etc ( didn't see this in the brochure huh?)...all of which is provided by every other department free of charge. You will get a gun though....of course paid for by the PBA...not the city....you will have to pay for the sights though...another $60.

...and don't forget the salary...if you can live on $980 every 2 weeks at the academy....more power to ya. If I was you...I'd take the MTA Police test or Amtrak Police...anything but the NYPD.
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[SmallFry]

I was told this by many other NYPD cops, Guess I will wait this thing off with my 87+ score

[JD]

Thanks Lou...
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[aaach]

If you get to study the MMPI as part of a college level psych course, a string of "perfect" answers (never late, always the best employee at work, never forget things, etc.) is interpreted as a person likely to be trying to deceive the examiner.
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[aaach]

They seemed to have been calling in by the order of test scores in January and February - I am in the 300-400 range, and was called in on 2/14, and most of those who I talked to that day had scores slightly higher than mine. If the last set of letters was for 2/21, the rate that they were going at for the 3 weeks prior to my letter suggests that they weren't going to reach 700.
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[lexordo]

The last two NC tests were a joke, they were specifically designed to corale a specific demographic.

I know lawyers, cops, and other well educated people, who would all make great PO's, and they all failed! I passed in 94' - with a 70. (All other cs tests I scored in 90's, including suffolk.)

Their are even a few NC PO's who were hired off the 87' test - but before they went into the academy they took the 94' test - AND FAILED!

The last two tests were a joke.
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[Dunk21x]

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[JD]

Dunk, Good Luck and keep us posted! Lexordo, you should have brought your cell phone to the 94 test. That's how most of the people who did well cheated! This past test was even more pathetic. I did well 87's and walked out of that test wondering what it had to do with law enforcement. Anyway, I hope they reach me at some point.
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[netime]

I was wondering,if the inv will call to let ypu know your status. i submitted all my paperwork weeks ago and was told it would be sent to civil service. havent heard nothing yet. is that good or bad?
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[Bgaro]

Can anyone tell me what scores should be called in general, I am sadly discouraged after hearing how 89's were not called yet and mine is a 84.771 and number 2164 on the list, can some one give me a no BS assement of if I can expect to be called?
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[Bgaro]

Lou, you seem to have the pulse of the situation, would you mind E mailing me, I have some questions, thanks

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[JD]

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[Lou]

The tests aren't designed to attract just book smart people like lawyers and doctors. I'm sure some of them are well rounded people...but for the most part they are one dimensional.

They are looking for people who have alot of common sense...the ability to make good decisions...lack much bias towards others...and the ability to use discretion in high stress situations.

I was pretty pissed when I was done with the Nassau test..the first thing I said was "How the hell can they grade this test?"...but they must have a good reason....if its a PC thing thats wrong....but the people who passed because Nassau needs to fill a quota still need to survive the background check and the academy...not always easy.
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[Dunk21x]

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[bluebuff]

i have a grade of a 90. i went in feburary and recieved my packet. that was it. still havent herd from my invesigator anyone else in same boat. Did they call the low 90s yet to meet thier investigator will i still be in first class my list number is 500

[me]

thanks for replies guys, i appreciate it. i guess they have to see how many get through the investigation before they spend money on more. but from what i hear, its better to be in the later part of each class because they are faster pushing people through because they need to fill the class. anyway, i also heard there wasnt a "real" physical test to get in. i hear in the academy you have the physical. anyone know? anyway, if i passed the fdny physical, im not worried about this one! good luck guys
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[Bgaro]

does anyone have any facts or info on how many people they reject out of how many they call, like I read earlier, somone said they only take in one out of every 7 guys that are called. Does anyone have factual info on this?

Also, does anyone know if they filled the july class yet and if so how many guys did they call up in order to fill it up. I dont mean how many they took (would like to know that too) but how many they had to interview or whatever to obtain a full class.

Sorry for all the questions, I am just trying to get a feel for if I will be called by the 3rd class, I am #2164 on the list and I got an 84.somthing, is that score somthign that might be called up by the third class?

Thanks guys, I truly appreciate any info you have
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[no news]

I know 3 people so far that have letters for their medicals, I am waiting for mine

[Resident]

Look at most of you. Frothing at the mouth over a job.

Do you have any idea how pathetic you look. I hope none of you who post here get hired. I want a regular joe to get the job, not some obssesive ninny.
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[Regular Joe]

I am overly excited now that somoene wants me to have the job! It means alot coming from our proud Nassau County sanitation workers.
Whats more obsessive though, trying to find out more information about a possible lifetime career, or posting at 5:22 AM and whining about the people who are interested......

[Bgaro]

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[JD]

Why would anyone be anxious about getting hired to a $100k+/year job? Most people are anxious over any job, pinhead!

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[Lou]

Well duh...can you blame anyone for being excited about the possiblity of earning a real wage for a police officer position and actually be able to afford to stay on Long Island?

Most of the people in my pct still live with their parents or have an apt with a few other people to be able to live on the pathetic wages we receive.....I'm sure alot of otehr people on here with jobs are in the same boat.
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[Observer]

you wrote <in part> the following:

"but from what i hear, its better to be in the later part of each class because they are faster pushing people through because they need to fill the class."

Well, no. Those that are qualified to go,go. there really is no difference it the quality of the person who goes.

"anyway, i also heard there wasnt a "real" physical test to get in. i hear in the academy you have the physical. anyone know?"

Again, you're wrong. Why not ask someone who has been in the academy, or ask the department or Civil service directly. Oh wait, then you can post stupid things like this.

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[Bgaro]

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[Dunk21x]

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[JD]

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[NYDIESEL]

Dunk.... does this mean that the investigations for the people already called will not have been completed by July? or does it mean many have already turned down the position or have been DQ'd...... thanks for your constant updates...we appreciate it!
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[Bgaro]

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[Dunk21x]

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first I wanna say thank you for addressing my questions, I appreciate it. If you had to venture a guess, how many canidates do you think they will go thorugh to get their 400+ officers?
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[Johnson]

Dunk, As always, thanks for the update. I was wondering how they where going to get a class in time. It seemed impossible to me. I handed in my paper work a few weeks ago and I know my investigator still hasn't visited my neighbors. I wish we could get an offical statement from civil service as to what's going on. I guess we just have to sit and wait in the dark.
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[lastever]

Thanx Dunk. That definitely sounds more realistic.
I went down on 2/14/04 and have yet to hear from my investigator. My list # is in the 400's. If anyone hears anything else that is relevant, please do post it.

Straight Up, any feel on this?

[Lou]

I've heard nothing about the 50 rumor. I'll check with my source. Sounds fishy to me that they can't find 150 applicants by june or july. Thats really pathetic if thats the case. I'll check and advise. :">
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[aaach]

I am in the high 300s on the CS list and only got a call within the past two weeks, don't worry it's coming. The 3 x 50 academy classes sounds credible if they are processing people by score, they may only have somewhere in the neighborhood of 50-100 people finished with investigation at this point.
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[NYDIESEL]

any updates? is the 50 cop class size true?
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[Lou]

My source said he has heard nothing about that...they are processing applicatioins now....but nothing about only 50...thats the present class.
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[Dunk21x]

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[Ed the cop]

The class in July will be 150.

[Rob]

Dunk you left us hangin' here. What's the deal?

[aaach]

150 was what Tom Suozzi announced last December, only a day after getting a report from Comm. Lawrence about staffing needs (presumably containing some sort of a schedule for hiring) - this was even BEFORE the test scores came out. It has clearly been a rush job all along to get this far, that Civil Service issued the scores and started bringing people in to complete paperwork before the eligible list was even established.

Dunk is one of the highest people on the list; logically, if he has only gotten up to the medical now (don't forget about waiting for the results of the medical, psychological, polygraph and agility tests), there's no way they will make both the July date and the 150 class size. One or the other's got to give.
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[Bgaro]

What happens if out of the people called for the first class , more pass then needed? are they put into the second class? Also, does anyone actually know how many people took this police exam?
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[Bgaro]

If you had to venture a guess, how far up the list do you think they will call to get their 400+ cops?
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[curious]

Dunk, did you have to sign a release of medical records form and did you have to list your medical history as well? I appreciate your help and this is the last time I'll post on this matter. Thanks.

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[Dunk21x]

(This message was left blank) Edited by: Dunk21x at: 11/29/04 8:19 pm

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[Johnson]

Thanks dunk! I don't see myself making it into the first class. I know my investigator still hasn't visited my neighbors and I haven't received my appointments for medical, etc... I just can't see this all happening in 45 or so days to make it in the june class.
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[Bgaro]

thanks dunk, I appreciate your time in replying
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[curious]

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[Lou]

The class in July is still on with 150......my source told me these 50 class rumors are not true.....its still 150, 100, and 100 at least for the next 3 classes.
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[NY JAG]

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what are the passing scores for the agility in those events you mentioned for a 20-29 male?

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[JD]

Why is it that the two guys who seam to have good information are at odds now? Dunk's info sounds logical, but its drastically different from the original news. Anyone else hear anything about this?

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[Dunk21x]

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[JD]

Dude, I'm not calling you out. Its just that the rest of us are trying to figure out what's going on. You have been the most reliable source on this site. Don't be offended if we're all confused by the contradictory information. Personally, I believe what you say. Thanks again for your help and updates.

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[NY JAG]

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and if u can post the physical scores that be cool to
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[Bgaro]

if the first class is 150 for sake of argument, when are the next two classes of 150, I remember readint hta tit was july 04, jan05 and july 05, can anyone shed some light on this? how long before a class goes in doe they send out for canidates? thanks guys
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[Bgaro]

by the way, I will give a football helmet full of jello to whoever can tell me how many people took the police exam
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[Johnson]

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[zio]

Dunk is correct about the class size; I was there on Saturday also. They said it would be easier for the academy trainers to handles 3 groups of 50 rather than 1 group of 150. As we all know anything could change and nothing is written in stone. But the investigators were pretty confident that appointment letters for a June class of 50 should be out within 5 weeks.

[NYDIESEL]

sounds good..... any idea if they will start sending out more letters to begin investigations or do they already have plenty of candidates for the first 150 cops? thanks dunk/zio!
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[Bill]

Okay a few questions here. First, my background was submitted to civil service 2 or 3 weeks ago, now would I be one of the 95 you speak of? Is that what you mean by phase 1? And when in June would this class begin, beginning, middle, end? Did they talk about that? And just out of curiosity, How is it beneficial for them to have three small classes and hire more academy instructors then hire a few more investigators to get the work done faster? Thats the only thing that makes no sense to me.
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[Ed the cop]

My friend buddy is in applicants and he has a higher rank than Sgt. I head the same as Lou...the 50 rumor is not true....150 are going in in July.

[aaach]

I don't know who your buddy is, but I believe the CO of this unit holds the rank of sergeant. Tall guy, late 40's, sidearm is a revolver, speaks to the group of candidates after you come in, and is introduced as the Commanding Officer of AI.
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[Ed the cop]

Aaaach...a CO is only the boss on one particular unit or pct. The person my friend knows is above the sgt. and he called him 2 days ago. 150 are going in as of 2 days ago...he doesn't know how the rumor of 50 got started probably because the current class is 50.

[zio]

You can think what you want and believe who you want, but the bottom line is that this is what we were told Saturday. If you don't believe us, no skin off my back. A class of 50 or a class of 150 would not help or hurt anyone in line for the 405 expected hiring. I know you say your friend's brother's friend's second cousin twice removed told you, but I was there and I have no reason to create rumors.

[Johnson]

I can't see how they will have a class of 150 ready in time.
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[Big DOg]

With all the contradictory information, is there any official published source on line or by phone, print publication that lays out fully what Nassau County’s plans are concerning hiring recruits in the coming
year(s) and what their standards are?D">

The NYPD has it, Suffolk has it, and FBI …where is Nassau County’s??????????????

[aaach]

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[Bgaro]

I heard on news 12 long island that the police PBA or union, whatever, wants the county to hire 750 cops and not 405. They say that during the 4 years this test will be in use, 65% of the force will be eligable for retirement. The county says 405 is enough but they are negotiating to come to an agreement. So hopefully the demand will go up to 750, or at least somthing in the middle of that and 405. Has anyone heard about this too?
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[Big DOg]

End Nassau-cop feud
Animosity between the Suozzi administration and the big police union is making residents uneasy: That's unacceptable.

April 28, 2004


There has been more rhetoric than reasoned debate about what proper police staffing levels should be in Nassau County. For the sake of Nassau's residents, that needs to change, and quickly. An independent consultant should be brought in to give a frank assessment of needs.

So far, however, there has been little public discussion of what kind of police department Nassau should have or what kind it can afford - much less about essential questions of how many patrol officers, detectives and supervisors there should be.

As it is, department overtime numbers have been creeping up. And more police officers are retiring. County Executive Thomas Suozzi has a plan to hire more officers. But just plugging holes is no substitute for an overall department policy.

But that, sadly, has been the situation in Nassau for two years now. And it's intolerable, as the role of policing is coming under increasing scrutiny in this post-9/11 world.

Part of the problem lies with animosity between the largest police department union and Suozzi, ill will that continues despite the resolution of a long, bitter contract fight.

Things are so bad between them that the legislature has tried to step in. So far, however, two legislative hearings, the latest held Monday, have done little to direct public attention - or county policy - to the crucial issue of how large or how small Nassau's police force should be.

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The legislature should offer up the best recommendations possible after sifting through hearing testimony. The legislature's Office of Independent Budget Review, which has offered in-depth "spotlight reports" on county agencies, could help here.

But the best solution would be for Suozzi and the unions to agree on an independent consultant to examine the department and make practical recommendations.

[NY JAG]

what was going on last saturday?
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[Lou]

The 50 rumor is just that...just a rumor. I'm told the 150 class is going in. They need cops so the 50 rumor is not true guys.
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[netime]

Dunk can you explain what you did at the medical briefing..Im going down next week, just curious as what to expect. How long were you there?
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[joe]

Netime, approximately what is your rank number? I'm just trying to figure out where they're at for myself. My rank is between 200 and 215. Thanks. Oh, and by the way the rumors are true. They are having classes of 50 but they are in such chaos right now they are talking all different times i also heard June, July, and September but nothing is for certain.
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[netime]

Im very close to you list wise...so you should be getting a letter soon. How do you know the rumors are true.
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[joe]

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[Ed the cop]

150 in July

100 in Dec/Jan

100 in June/July 2005

[Bgaro]

those numbers seem off because the total number of cops that are supposed to be hired is 405, thats only 350. I dont know but there is alot of animosity and fighting over this so let me settle it, I talked to the pope, the presisdent, God and my dead hamster mr wiggles and they all agree just to wait and see what happens about the class size.
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[JD]

At LEAST 405! They may hire more depending on the agreed upon needs that are being ironed out. Who cares about the class size as long as they keep moving down the list. NCPD probably isn't sure about the class size yet. Bgaro, sorry to hear about Mr. Wiggles! That's funny stuff!

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[Ed the cop]

So far its 150 in July, 100 in Dec, and 100 in July 2005. I'm sure they will add more...they have to.

[JD]

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[JD]

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[doo wop]

50 maybe....suozzi's got egg on his face.....civil service can't process any quicker right now

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[netime]

Does anyone know the uncorrected vision standards for the job. Has anyone been to the med yet?
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[netime]

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[needmycontacts]

does anybody know what kinds of standards they want for uncorrected vision?
has anyone taken the 2nd medical yet?

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[Bgaro]

does anyone know they departments stance on laser correction? I am getting laser correction surgey in early june, I know the state police want to check your vision a year after surgey, does NCPD have this rule too?
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[Celt]

I'm not sure if its rumor or not about the class size of 50, but I was told the same thing from a LT. The truth is maybe nobody knows yet, but who cares. 50 or 150 if you are going to be called you will be called.

About the Poly, I spoke to someone who took the Poly 8 years ago or so, the last time they hired. That person said it was no joke. They are good at what they do and will be able to tell a lot. whether or not you think its 100% or not means diddly squat, because they think its just fine. I also met someone who happens to know 2 of the officers who administer the Poly. Thats right, they are cops too. that person said the same.

[BN]

Has anyone here actually taken the medical yet at NUMC? If so how was it.

[Lou]

Ok guys....here is what I heard and its not a rumor.

60 are going in for the class in June...then...

50 in a July class......50 in an August class...and another 50 in September.

Thats what I'm hearing if it makes since to you...multiple classes at one time.
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[NYDIESEL]

sounds good lou........ at least the ball is rolling...... list number in the very low 700's..... havent heard anything yet....anyone else?
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[JD]

don't worry about the poly...I know a few people on the force who were beyond bad before joining the force who are on suffolk and nassau.
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[JD]

That last post was not from me. What kind of loser is pathetic enough to post as someone else? I hope he's right, however.

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[Bill]

The statement "I know some guys who were beyond bad and passed the nassau and suffolk poly" is from a post made months ago. Why not post new information as yourself instead of saying you're jd. Celt, there have been issues with the poly in the past and people were hired who challenged the results. The poly can screw you even when telling the truth. Just be consistent with your answers throughout the whole process.
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[4eyez]

I see that this question has been asked, but no one gave a real answer. Has anyone taken the vision test yet? I see that Dunk appears to be ahead w/ the processing. Any info would greatly be appretiated.

[Lou]

I don't believe anyone is up to this stage yet. The NYPD one was kind of hard but basically everyone passes....if not they tell you to get glasses and come back for another test.
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[Dunk21x]

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[iwannapass]

DUNX21,

please update me on the vision test, was it hard, do they let you wear contact lenses?

let me know...

[me]

ROFLMAO the test is for UNCORRECTED VISION No you cant wear contacts during it.
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[aaach]

Is usually tested both uncorrected and corrected. In the event Dunk doesn't already wear corrective lenses, I don't know if he will be able to shed light on this issue short of asking the examining doctor. I do not know Nassau, but 20/30 (corr.) and 20/100 (uncorr.) for each eye are frequently used standards.
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I'm hearing that NYJAG is blind!

[Lou]

Vision is tested both ways Mr Me.
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[Pat]

What kind of chart does Nassau use. I heard they do 12 hour tours?

[JD]

I hope everything went well for you. Keep us posted when you get a chance.

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Dunk I hope they find wacky weed in your urine.
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[JD]

Its time for you to start posting under your own name. You're wasting everyone's time with the high school BS!
Dunk's been quite helpful to us.
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[NY JAG]

post the requirements for a 20-29 female for the agility
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[JD]

You have to learn how to drive the Sgt. from Dunkin Donuts to 7-11 to the rear of the Fire House in 6.7 minutes flat.
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[Jagoff]

Why dont you get off this forum...its meant for serious candidates...not for losers like you who can only dream. You are one pathetic @#%$.

[HKA78]

I met with my investigator in early May. How long does it usually take for them to clear your background so that you can go on for Phase 2? Do I have a chance for the July class if there is one?

[HKA78]

Also, does any person know the salary scale steps for a cop. I hear that in the academy you make in the low 20's. Thanks!

[JD]

Whoever you are you need to post like an adult and use your own name. I'm done.
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[aaach]

I'm suprised your investigator didn't discuss what happens next for you; mine said it would be probably be around two months before I would hear anything (assuming no hiccups with the background investigation). I don't think there are any solid dates or class sizes yet, they would have to wait and see how many people clear the medical/psych/agility first.
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u gotta take this job to be a cop dont be a paycheck whore. this jobis 4 real men, no little boys who post under 10 screen names with little dicks
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[netime]

Hey Dunk how did the medical go...also did they schedule the pat AFTER Iit?
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I'm told there will be a class every month of 50 - 60 for the next few years. You should have a good chance for any class in the near future.
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[WORD]

Sounds like Lou has either lost his mind or some other jackass is pretending to be Lou. Let's just keep the posts on a serious level. It used to be helpful.

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[Lou]

Word,

Keep thy mough shut.
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[WORD]

OK. Whatever a mough is I will do my best to keep it shut. Now, does anyone with an IQ of 40 and above have any REAL updates on this topic?
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bgaro...guess you've been disqualified then as well..lol


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[WORD]

I know you may be too annoyed by the idiots to post, but it would be great to hear how the medical went. Thanks.

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[WORD]

It's definitely time for the sad impersonator to find a new site to continue his childish horseplay.
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[Johnson]

Just ignore it... don't comment on the BS posts.
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[fast]

Processing seems to be moving along pretty fast. 2 more steps left..agility and polygraph. Hopefully June is good to go.

[aaach]

Would you care to discuss the agility test events and passing levels? Dunk has mentioned there was some complicated scoring system, I don't think a straight answer has ever been posted on this topic (closest thing was someone who vaguely recalled the requirements in the early 1990's).
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[NYDIESEL]

its actually not complicated at all..... passing is a weighted average of 4.... no age or gender differences..... u need an average of a 4.... so for example u score very high in the agility portion...it would offset a low score in the endurance portion. ....4 categories.... situps, squat thrusts, 90 yard dash, agility..... pretty easy to pass.... the academy i expect is a different story!
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[aaach]

Thanks for the reply. Out of curiousity, can you outline what some of the scores in individual events would be - it seems very odd that a test would be set up like this, that it wouldn't be considered discriminatory against women or older candidates. Is the bar set really that low? You are correct that the academy PT will be MUCH more than this.
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[OFS]

Was it here all along?

www.nassaucivilservice.co...2004234532

[NYDIESEL]

yup! that was it! but dont be fooled...im sure the academy is tougher than that!
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[fast]

Theres a short video of a PT session at the Academy on the newday wbsite. Its a few months old and cant find the link, but it might still be there for anyone interested.

[fast]

what kind of chart does NCPD use? Is it 10 or 12 hour days.

[fast]

I know when the so called polygraph is and physical

but...I dont know the chart Nassau works.

What a MORON I am!

[dont be]

Its sad how another man can be so envious of another. Dude because you have no chance of ever getting hired is no reason to hate. Pathetic @#%$.

[chart orange]

The bulk of the job is chart orange -- 12 hour tours -- some work 10 hours, and many inside spots or specialized spots are 9 hrs.

[NY JAG]

23 hour tours, no vacation days, no sick, no comp time
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[Bill]

Come on! Can we please keep this site useful. It would be appreciated if Dunk21 could give us an update.

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Remember a while ago you said I must have failed my drug test because they didn't call me yet? Well they are doing my investigation now and you are still a d***.

[Bill]

What are you talking about?
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[ha ha]

He was high at the time!!

[jj]

Why don't all the total losers who need to make themselves feel better by ridiculing people start their own thread. That way you can still act like a 15 yr old and the rest of us can use this posting for helpful information.
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[Bgaro]

Anyway, back to business, can anyone who is going to meet with an investigator or whoever ask them how far down the list they are for calling recruits? thanks, any info is greatly appreciated
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[aaach]

Estimates vary among what list number they have reached, it seems to be somewhere between 500-700 to date. There's no indication that anyone else beyond the groups called in in Jan/Feb have been called yet.

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[fast]

you aint gettin called

[JD]

Any reason everyone stop posting. This board was pretty informative.
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[JD]

It was informative before idiots like you started to post as other people.

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[JD]

"Derogatory"? I don't understand big words like that,
Sir.

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[Johnson]

Enough of the crap posts guys... come on now.

Dunk21x, where you at? Any more news?
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[Dunk21x]

(This message was left blank) Edited by: Dunk21x at: 11/29/04 8:20 pm

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[Johnson]

Good luck! Thank for the update.
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[Hmmm]

In Suffolk you can fail your psych and still become a cop. Twice even! Then they cover up when you hurt, humiliate and yea even do the unthinkable. Disgusting. Don't dare compalin! No, just shut the fuk up and keep it inside. Go thru all the right channels and its a dead end. Besides the fact that they will turn it around and dig up ANYTHING to make YOU look criminal or insane taint you as a whore even. (maybe because you won't put out then claim they don't want you cuz your fat or crazy) I suppose if your a man they will trap you somehow.

Yea....good old low crime Suffolk. Thast because the media doesn't know how many REAL CRIMINALS are LEO's. Yea Im crazy alrighty, you just don't know how. Anyone care for a demo?


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[NYDIESEL]

whta the hell was that about?
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[aaach]

Was there any mention of medical standards during the exam or in the paperwork? I know a few people on this board were concerned with vision testing.
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[joe42]

Does anyone know what process Civil service goes through when calling people off the list to fill in a vacany in the villages of nassau county. How does it work? Thank You.

[WORD]

Dunk21x, we would love to hear an update!
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[Dunk21x]

(This message was left blank) Edited by: Dunk21x at: 11/29/04 8:21 pm

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[WORD]

Thanks, bro. Keep us posted and good luck!


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[NY JAG]

how many people took it and how many people failed it?
where was it given?
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[you'll never make it]

(This message was left blank) Edited by: Dunk21x at: 11/29/04 8:21 pm

[Jnetty99]

After reading all the pages for this topic, i'm very sad that i might not get a chance to get the job.

I got a 79 on the exam and i'm a minority (hispanic).
Meanwhile i got a 89 in Suffolk and still waiting on that, and i also took the State police and waiting on scores for that exam.

I also took NYPD and passed lol and now already have medical exam next friday and they say a class will start in july.

[Sad]

Do you want people to feel sad cause you got a 79 and you are a minority. Go else where pal for sympathy and stop playing the affirmative action card.

[Johnson]

I have to go for my psycological and medical next week. I just received notice today. Anyone else?

Dunk, What was the 90 yard dash like? 3 laps around two markers? I would think a dash would be a straight run.
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[ARMYMP]

WHATS UP EVERYBODY? DOES ANYBODY KNOW IF A SCORE OF 85 WILL MAKE THE CUT?

[aaach]

From the scoring system, it looks like you can pass the test if you are in reasonable shape, even if you mess up one event (short of stopping to tie a shoelace), the other events can make up for it. It might be a bit harder for women to match up to the level of the mens scores.
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[Jnetty99]

I'm not looking for sympathy. I simply stated what i got and that I’m a minority. I read in previous post how the test was made to give minorities a bigger chance at the test, I honestly don’t think so, like everyone said the test was so simple but that life experience questions and personally figure out most of the score.

I just wanted to know basically if anyone that got lets say less that 80 and below, whether a minority or not will get a chance to be called?

I also stated I got an 89 in Suffolk and that test was not like hard but time consuming and it involved more thinking. Hopefully I will get better chance with that.

The NYPD exam was like Suffolk and I passed that but I didn’t get a score and already in the process to see if I get in, again most people say that with NYPD almost everyone passes.

The hardest test I seen was State Police, less questions, less time and lots of problem solving.

So that’s what I wanted to say, not looking for “sympathy”

[Johnson]

Does anyone know what the hours are in the NCPD academy? Mon - Fri 9 -5???


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[ARMYMP]

ONCE AGAIN DOES ANYBODY KNOW IF A SCORE OF 85 WILL MAKE THE CUT? THANX

[Johnson]

Army, Read through the older posts in this thread. I'm pretty sure your question has been asked and answered a few times.
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[ARMYMP]

SORRY IF I CAUSED A BOTHER BUT I JUST WANTED SOMEBODY VISION ON MY GRADE. IF ANYBODY HAS SOME INSIGHT ON MY QUESTION

[JD]

Based on the older posts which we no longer have access to a score of 85 has an excellent chance of being called. No one can say for sure when this might be, however. Good luck.

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[ARMYMP]

THANX FOR THE INSIGHT I APRECIATE IT. I GUESS I'LL JUST KEEP WORKING OUT UNTIL THE DAY COMES. IF IT GETS HERE. ONCE AGAIN THANX JD GOOD LUCK!

[PJ]

Can Dunk or anyone else who knows, tell me do they give the polygraph the same day as the medical and psych. test? I have to go Tues. and then if everything goes well I have to go again Sat. the 5th.

[Billy bob]

anybody hear when the 1st class will start? and how many?

[Johnson]

Seems like the first class is going to be last june or july. The investigators still haven't been told an exact date yet. Looks like we have to keep our schedules open.
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[jjr]

I've heard that the class that's in the academy goes to field training in June and the new class will begin as soon as they're out the door.

[netime]

How long is the filed training for them?
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[gunther]

and when does it start

[aaach]

Class size of 150 at any time is definitely out; the academy doesn't have the personnel resources and physical space to accommodate that many at once. The suggestion posted on this board a few weeks ago that planned classes of approximately 50 were accurate. Orders from THE top is to get more cops out on the street asap. This means that they are now holding back on the date in order to bump up the class size (probably more like 75) and accellerate the academy by longer shifts and/or six day weeks to get them out of the classrooms. The subsequent class will go in as soon as the academy classroom facilities are cleared out, perhaps in as little 4 to 5 months after the first.


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[gunther]

Are you saying the next class won't be going in for 4 or 5 months? No way, I heard about 100 in End of June beginning of July.

[JD]

Aaach, so this means that the 150 every six months for the next few years is pushed back? It will take much longer to fill the 405 number that they planned on hiring. Anyone else hear any rumors?

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