Suffolk County is shutting down patrol cars!

[Rob47]

Hey Patrol,
I figured I'd get this one going for you. This is an issue regarding the safety of our community, and is obviously important! Lets hope this draws some more attention!

Thanks for keeping us updated SCPD Patrol. The community will appreciate it!

Rob
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[A supporter]

I feel that the Suffolk PD should have representatives at the April 20th Legislature Meeting. You have to express your concerns and the Safety that is at risk for Residents.

[short changed]

308 the only car in great river and the vast majority of east islip. was shut down on the midnight shift 6 nights in the last week and a half. that means that car was shut down more than half the time on the midnights. that's alot of area/ people with no car. 309 and 307 who have adjoining sectors and both cover islip terrace / ci were shut down on the day shift on monday. it's only a matter of time before someone gets seriously hurt or killed because of this. what other cars have been shut down?? does anyone have a running list they can post as to what has been shut down thus far???

[confused]

I'm a bit confused, and wanted to address this to either patrol, tbaw, or any of the other "in the know" guys.

I understand that the first and third are closing down many cars a night and occasionally during the day from what I read here.

I am hearing from friends who work in north shore precincts that the overtime has been great lately. They are hiring 6-8 people per shift to staff cars, with none being closed.

Question is, why the difference?
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[ONDAJOB]

The ones with the balls realize we need the cars up to properly function
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[citizen]

What's all the hubub about shutting down cars? I Pay my taxes each year and deserve the police protection I pay for. How can elected POL. just arbitrarily decide to shut down part of the patrol force that was in effect when I paid for it. How would anyone feel about going to a restaurant, ordering say a steak dinner, paying for it to go and when you got home, there wasn't any steak, only french fries, salad and some cole-slaw maybe. It would be enough to eat and fill your dietary needs but, IT'S NOT WHAT YOU PAID FOR!!!!!!
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[TAXPAYERSUFFOLK]

Very well put post. Levy is going to sink himself. When the crimerate soars, because of his great Idea...does he really think the taxpayers are going to reward him with with another term ?? I DON'T THINK SO STEVE !!!!
I hope that everyone keeps a close eye on the crimerate stats, and when they start to go up as a result of the implementation of his dumbass plan, THE TAXPAYERS will be able to see it in NEWSPRINT.

[TBAW]

In addition to the OIC's discretion, the staffing levels (how many people you have/need to begin with) will affect the number of hires...
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[short changed]

not that crime isn't important but don't forget that if this policy isn't changed people are going to die. there's no nicer way to put it. when the cop isn't there with his defibrillator, to preform the Heimlich maneuver, or to get you out of the wrecked car. when your child gets hit by a car crossing the street. the car into the water with people trapped inside. someone passed out in a burning building and the fd has not arrived yet. or maybe three men robbing a radio shack in oakdale. i can go on all day bottom line is people are going to die........ write your legislators and tell them to stop this practice and tell your neighbors to do the same. you are not getting what you are paying for you are being short changed. it could be your life that is saved

[short changed]

i heard 308 the only car in east islip and great river was shut down on the midnights 4/12 and 305 the islip car was shut down on the day shift 4/12. more county residents short changed again.

[TAXPAYERSUFFOLK]

short changed
Unregistered User
(4/12/04 11:42 am)
Reply hey taxpayer
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not that crime isn't important but don't forget that if this policy isn't changed people are going to die. there's no nicer way to put it. when the cop isn't there with his defibrillator, to preform the Heimlich maneuver, or to get you out of the wrecked car. when your child gets hit by a car crossing the street. the car into the water with people trapped inside. someone passed out in a burning building and the fd has not arrived yet. or maybe three men robbing a radio shack in oakdale. i can go on all day bottom line is people are going to die........ write your legislators and tell them to stop this practice and tell your neighbors to do the same. you are not getting what you are paying for you are being short changed. it could be your life that is saved

Dear shortchanged,


You are 100% correct ! Write my legislators? I have not only done that but called as well. I am about ready to shout it from the rooftops !

[short changed]

i apologize if i was mis interpreted but that comment was not necessarily directed at you. i thank you immensely for writing and calling your legislators. it mite be my life you save by doing that. however i am unfortunately sure that not everyone reading this message board has done so. it was a message to try to implore the masses to write and tell levy to stop this practice; and to get them to have their friends and neighbors to do the same. a pile of 1000 letters holds much more weight than a pile of 1 letter. many of the legislators are behind us that this is a very deadly game that levy is playing but we the people need to give them the ammunition to fight the war against Napoleon levy. perhaps if some dedicated people could start some petitions. i think it might be easier to get people to just sign their name instead of sit down and write a letter. it's an idea but it just might work. i plan on starting one. you should too.

by the way i heard 322 (brentwood) 304 (bayshore) and 309 (islip terrace) were all shut down on the midnights last night. as well as 316 (brentwood ci border) 324 (bayshore) and 313 (brightwaters) which are shut down on the midnights every night 365 days a year. i can't wait for the night when the whole pct is manned by four cars because that seems to be the way it is going. lets get the info out any one know of any other cars that have been shut down or are shut down regularly. lets get the info out. keep fighting the good fight

[pisedoff]

what cars are being shut down in the 6th

[shutdown]

It seems that the majority of car closings are taking place in the 1st and 3rd. Dont get confused...every precinct closes down 3 cars at midnight, but the 1st and 3rd are shutting cars down beyond those original 3.

I can't figure out why some communities are getting more police coverage coverage than others. Why do the exclusive north shore communities get police protection, while the poorer south shore gets less? Don't we all pay the same taxes, or are residents of the 1st and 3rd getting a rebate?

[Resident]

I for one want police on especially at night. What about DWI's i'm guessing that there will be an impact on that issue.
on another issue how come DA squad is allowed to hire back retired detectives? Wouldn't that be an issue for PBA? I mean you can't get promotions if spots are filled with retirees. Isn't that also Double Dipping?
Why do you guys allow it?
keep up the good work fella's
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[Dear Short Changed]

Pete Quinn the former and in my opinion current coke head is hanging onto his job by the skin of his teeth. Since he has been so impaired by his past he will do ANYTHING Levy/Dormer tell him to do. (See look Steve&Rich I'll be good I'll do your dirty work just don't invite me to retire). The County likes cops and bosses with a dirty past. It gives the dept. something to hold over these dirt bags heads and make them tow the line. Pete's situation is political correctness at it's best. How quickly would this allegedly "reformed" coke addict sue the county if they forced him to retire now. Alcoholism and drug addiction are disabilities and therefore provide protection under the American's w/ disabilities act. So now that he's out of the closet and has a known disability if they fire him he will whine and cry via a lawsuit that his rights have been violated. What a sad disgusting embarassment this situation is. While everyone who resides in the 3rd and is displeased by the shutdown sectors patrolling their neighborhood's writes their elected officials, maybe they should vent their outrage about Pete also.

[SCPD1]

On the 12-8 shift PD cars 324,313,316 are allways shut down.

Now lets get to Sector car 308 the only car in Great River and East Islip after car 322 was sent into the brentwood area.

3/29 3/30 3/31 4/1 4/6 4/7 and 4/12 308 was locked up and in the East Islip Fire Dept parking lot. Now this = EAST ISLIP and GREAT RIVER without POLICE Protection........


I have many good friends that are on the department and I pray that none of them are hurt by this.

[TBAW]

The new spin zone....
Take an area covered by 5 sectors and reduce the number of sectors to three. Increase the size, AND overlap, the remaining sectors. Tell the public that they are getting two sector cars covering the overlapped area instead of one, increasing the coverage! Technically a correct statement BUT....
ps.. stop the personal attacks, stick to the logical ones...
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[TAXPAYERSUFFOLK]

No apology needed. You made a valid point, I know where you are coming from. Excellent idea for the petition...they sould be placed at as many public places as can be...deli's 7 eleven's...high volume places, at the front counters. Be sure to provide a clear explanation on first page for petition, and how it MAY affect safety for both public and police...be very careful of the wording, or it could be dismissed as not valid. provide a space for the full name of person , thier address and or town and space for phone #(not required).
I once wrote a petition for something..where I stood at the front desk of a busy 7 eleven for 2 hours collecting signatures...in that short period of time I collected over 300 of them...imagine how many you could get if you left one for just a week, at several stores. make sure you have plenty of pages for signatures with each packet...I wish anyone that reads this would do the same.

[Oncethere]

Dear Mr. Levy;

Since you have taken office as the new Suffolk County Executive I have seen things take a down turn in our county. Your cost cutting measures are drastic in some cases and with total disregard for the safety and well being of the communities.

It seems that it has become a common practice of the Suffolk County Police Department to down specific sector cars on the midnights due to what the Commissioner says is manpower shortages. However this I know is not the case. Now the Department is laying up sector cars on the 4-12 tour, the busiest tour in police work anywhere in the country.

Case and point: Last night 14 April 2004 sector cars 315 & 320 were put out of service for what reason? Two adjoining sectors and quite large in area and population were unprotected. And yes I know the adage, “They were covered by adjoining cars”. This is not true; the adjoining sectors have their own responsibilities and must tend to them. If an adjoining car must go into a vacant sector it is only by being assigned a specific call and with long delays on response time.

What happened to patrol, which is quite effective on the 4-12 tour as a deterrent. Can you explain the reason for laying up sectors 313, 324, 316 on the midnightst? The people of the 3rd Precinct are unprotected because of you and your new Commissioner. Do you both think alike? The answer is “Yes”, that’s why he is the New Commissioner.

Sector car 308 the only car in Great River and the vast majority of East Islip was shut down on the midnight shift 6 nights in the last week and a half. That means that car was shut down more than half the time on the midnights. That's a lot of area/ people with no car. Sectors 309 and 307 who have adjoining sectors and both cover Islip Terrace / Central Islip were shut down on the day shift on Monday. It's only a matter of time before someone gets seriously hurt or killed because of this.

Mr. Levy you need to get your priorities straight. The people of Suffolk County deserve better than what you are giving us. Get your act together, protect the people, and put more officers on the roads. Stop the practice of laying up sectors cars. You were elected County Executive now act like one. Saving money and cost cutting is not your only responsibility the safety of the people of Suffolk County should be your main focus.

[redskins]

i have not heard of any sectors being shut down on the 4x12 tour. your last comment was wrong. 315 and 320 were both manned last night on the 4x12 tour on 4/14/04

[SCPD1]

Both cars were shut down on the 4-12 shift. Also cars 313 and 317 were pulled into East Islip for calls.

[redskins]

I don't know where youre getting your info, but 315 and 320 were not shut down on the 4x12 tour on 4/14/04. one of these cars assisted us at a fire scene. and the other assisted a bus that was on the southern state.

[anon]

I was told from a boss that as of 4/15 no more cars will be shut down. Was anyone else told this?
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[Oncethere]

hqve it on good authority...15 and 20 spent the night at the firehouse all locked up...no keys no radio, no officers..someone else was answering for them...its a good spoof...i remember it well in my days...

[byteme]

Hey numb nut$, he said the sectors were down, that doesn't mean someone can't use the cars...

[Oncethere]

Well anon...its 4/16...How many cars did not move from the relief points in the 3rd last night? Was "That Boss's" scuttlebut good or not??

[scpd patrol]

I've finally been able to get back! Good job guys/ladies keeping the info flowing.

That's the first I've heard about them no longer shutting down cars. I hope that the information is correct.
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[scpd patrol]

There will be aSuffolk County Legislative meeting on Tues 4/20/04. The issue of the shutting down of cars appears to be on the agenda. I'm not sure if the meeting is open to the public. I'll look into it.

I was told about a week ago that the 1st pct stopped shutting down cars. Can anyone confirm this? If true, only the 3rd is shutting down cars to the best of my knowledge.
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[anon]

I work in the 3rd and was told by a boss that they are no longer going to shut down cars. Hopefully this is true...I haven't worked since the 15th Midnite so I don't know if any were shut down on the 10x8 this morning....
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[Patrol]

I heard that they made a deal in the 1st that they will fill the cars with holdovers till 0400 and in early 0600.
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[scpd patrol]

I heard that because it's getting warmer (busier), they are going to staff the cars. Let's see what happens after Labor Day.

Anyone see the article in Newsday regarding the $130 million surplus found by the comptroller? Hmmm, was Steve Levy decieving all of us? If he was, he should be taken to task BIG TIME for this. He needlesssly had the public and police placed in jeopardy when a lot of money was there, and still shut down sector cars!!
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[lexordo]

I'm not a fan of Levy's but how could he know a surplus was imminent, he has only been in office 3 months?

As for the shut downs, what could the PBA expect? I know the want to benefit their officer's w/ot, but at $1,000 a shift per car it was only a matter of time before we saw shutdowns. And while shutdowns may lesson during the summer they will probably pick up again when it gets slower.
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[Patrol]

$1,000 per shift, per sector car????? Didn't know we were making that much.
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[lexordo]

car, gas, cop salary at time and a half plus benefits on a ten hour shift, i'd say thats about 1k per car.

unless of course its a sunday/holiday...
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[Justathought]

$1000 per shift... sign me up.... but first someone owes me a LOT of money.... I've been getteing shortchanged a long time!!!! Where did that number come from.... I only wish it were true... I'd be working a lot more OT!!! :-)

If you're going to spout "facts" make sure of the math first... or perhaps you took the same math class Stevie and the boys did...
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[lexordo]

I'll be the first to admit that I am not mathmatically inclined, but my numbers aren't too far off:

At 90K base, on a 1856 hour chart, the o/t rate is about $73.00 per hour, or $730.00 per 10 hour tour. Now add night diff, benefits, cost of car, a tank of gas - thats what it costs the taxpayers to man a car.

The numbers aren't too far off.
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[baba 0 riley]

10 hour tours? you wouldn't work more than an 8 hr shift on OT

[GET REAL]

Lexordo- you are a complete a$%hole. you don't know what the fuk youre talking about. go back to your bathroom and play with your little stub.
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[6thpct]

well, from what i understand no patrol has been shut down in the 6th but there was only one road sgt on the road in squad 2 today..... i would like to know why at least 4 cars were downed mechanicly for water in the gas again......

[TBAW]

Water on the gas? Who's responsible for that, the boss, Levi... how about the retailer?
One boss on the road? Who's responsible for that, the OIC. If you begin at minimum supervisory staffing (3 bosses) and the LT. wants a desk Sgt., you get one road Sgt.
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[scpd patrol]

I think your numbers are off regarding the cost of a PO to fill a sector car/tour.

Levy's been in 3 months, but he apparently has been taking "cooking" lessons. How can you be so incompetent as to overlook a surplus as large as that?

I understand that full staffing is back in effect. I am not aware of any MOA about the issue.

The decertification looks like it's a go. Anyone hear/know anything regarding it. Lots of rumors flying
around.

Water in the gas? Hmmm is Levy trying to thin the gasoline out to save money Seriously, that's a disgrace.
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[Justathought]

I think you need to re-think your math... as already stated they don't fill cars for 10 hours... more often it's a 4 or 6 hour tour... just to fill the gaps. It's nowhere near the $1000 you seem to think... but then again... following your logic if we add in the cost of flares, crime scene tape, medical supplies, oxygen, defib pads, bullets, mace, and all the "other" associated cost of police work plus the cost of sending a Cop to the hospital for doing his job, getting in harms way, and getting hurt.... I guess you're right... :-)
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[lexordo]

O.K., so I am wrong - no SCPD officer works a ten hour o/t tour - it won't be the first time I have been wrong.

I don't mind admitting that I am wrong - I am falible - the point that apparently has escaped some people is that one reason why the shut downs have occured is because it is extremely expensive for the taxpayers to man units on o/t; when you factor in that some cars are slow during those periods of time I can understand why the county chooses to put some units to bed.

On another note: As police officers we are community leaders, resorting to mindless banter and profanity is something I would expect to see from the dregs of society, not a fellow police officer. When pointing out the shortcomings of others try articulating why you disagree, you just might teach someone why they are wrong.

-Safe Tour
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[Dear Lex]

The American Heart Association research is that biological (brain damage) death occurs when CPR is not started within 6 minutes. They also report that those patients that don't receive defibrillation and CPR within 6 minutes have a less than 10% chance of survival from sudden cardiac arrest. I can guarantee that it will take the car responsible for Sayville/W.Sayville more than 6 minutes to respond to the Idle Hour area on the mids. That car has O2 an AED and a EMT/Police Officer. From what I know the 3rd is closing down the sector that adjoins 503 (the Oakdale car) so help from the 3rd is out. Please tell me why other residents of the Police District receive timely life saving police service via a sector that is up 24/7 yet the residents of Oakdale do not. I am going to re-post your comments regarding the "cost" of staffing sectors in "slow" areas. I respectfully request that you provide your name and phone number so that I and others can pick you up to help explain to the family members of the deceased why it was too costly to staff the car w/ an officer that could have prevented the ASSURED death of their loved one. DO Not try and give me the excuse of "the volunteer ambulance/FD" will do it. One small slice of the puzzle. Now factor in any type of arterial bleed from various causes (assault, suicide attempt, accident) the victim will be Dead in 6 minutes without medical care. Again the volunteers wont go near the scene if they fear it to be a victim of violence call until AFTER the sector is on the scene and has secured it. The above statistics are known and taught by both the Suffolk County Police Department and The SC Department of Fire Rescue and Emergency Services. They are national standards which create "the standard of care". The county is fully aware of those standards and conveniently ignores them.

I have exerpted Blacks law dictionary Misfeasance in Public Office-The tort of excessive, malicious, or negligent excercise of statutory powers by a public officer-Also termed malfeasance.

I don't purport to be an expert on these matters, but I don't have to be, all it take are 6 angry civil jurors to erase any savings that Levy/Dormer think they will realize by their "cost saving" axegrinding measures. Having seen the caliber of some of the political hacks in the County Atty's office I feel a competent plaintiffs attorney could win a HEFTY settlement against the county.

Levy/Dormer are sticking it to the PBA/SOA/DBA for backing Romaine, unfortunately they are gambling with the residents lives.

Here are your words feel free to provide the information requested.

"one reason why the shut downs have occured is because it is extremely expensive for the taxpayers to man units on o/t; when you factor in that some cars are slow during those periods of time I can understand why the county chooses to put some units to bed"

[lexordo]

First, let me say thanks for your well written, well thoughtout post (Yes, I can take it, even when you lay it on thick).

Your arguement is one which I cannot dipute, that is the beauty of it; who can put a price on a human life? Your PBA is wise to use that same arguement because politicians would look foolish to dispute it.

However, we both know their are alterior motives here; those include providing overtime for cops. Additionally, the PBA would like to bolster staffing levels for safety reasons, but also because that means membership dues will continue to roll in (A problem that Gary DelaRaba is currently having).

This arguement reminds me of Teachers Unions bargaining for new contracts and annual budgets in their districts. They consistantly say they need money for "the kids", then you see the outragious salaries that they make and you know where the money is going. They are using the kids as pawns, and effectively are putting a gun to the heads of the parents in the name of their own children. The police are using the same arguement for heart attack victims, "It can happen anywhere at anytime." That arguement could be the bases for druming up all different types of overtime.

I'm not against anyone getting o/t, I merely voiced why I understand the county's position on putting cars to bed.
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[Justathought]

I have to admit you're at least willing to listen... I respect that and I've never been one to insult people so I hope my last posting didn't do so... it was NOT my intent... I was only trying to dispel the whole $1000/shift thing as I found it to be VERY misleading and inflammatory... and thus needed to addressed and corrected.

I guess the real issue comes down to this Lex... Cops don't get paid for what they do every day... it's what they might have to do... and thus if you make the argument that they're not needed when it's usually slow or normally quiet... why have them at all... cut the number of cars and Cops on the road. Roll the dice... save some money....and hope it's not you or a loved one that crap out....

It's those normally quiet times, when you see no harm in cutting cars, that an emergency arises... and if no one is there to answer.... someone gets hurt, dies, or victimized. In fact if you consider that the department has failed to keep patrol levels anywhere near what they should be based on population density, traffic level increases, and an aging population in Suffolk County for the past 25 years they've already cut patrol in a very quiet sneaky way... the Brookhaven precincts have seen a population explosion in the last 25 years (that's where most of the undeveloped land was)... and yet patrol levels and coverage was never increased at the same rate... sure they added a car here or there... but nothing like they should have!!! Also the department cut staffing on the midnight years ago... but people have short-term memories for such things... And now now they're getting greedy... the Guys on the road have done their best and kept a handle on it... so what do the politicians look to do.... sure... if the job is getting done.... there must be too many Cops...

"Playing the averages" (Shutting down cars based on the math... life cannot be reduced to an equation) is NOT something politicians should be doing with public safety... why do we have unfunded state "mandates" for everything under the sun.... benefiting folks that put little into the system yet those who pay the freight (taxes) ,like you and I, and keep the system going are at the mercy of politicians with NO protection of law securing our rights, services, and benefits? Time to think about this whole deal....

Think about it for a minute... why require Auto insurance... or Health insurance, of Fire insurance we all pay... but get nothing for it year after year because nothing happens... but THEN.... the one time you need it... it's ALL worth the cost... Insurance companies don't get paid for what they give you each year.... they get paid for what they might have to do!!! Police protection is much that same... most of us in our lifetimes will have no call to collect on the insurance of having a fully staffed department... but those who do (even once)... get more in return then they ever would have hoped for! Are you willing to play the averages? Is it worth having your local sector car down when you're choking on that piece of candy that you chose to enjoy during a "Traditionally slow period" for Police calls for service and have the Cop a sector or two over answering another call? And now being so far off the Cop has to push it a little harder trying to get there for you and T-bones a Soccer Mom and Kids in her New Expedition... a REAL event that everyone seem to over look... with increased patrol areas Cops have to try harder to get there... increased response times... and we know what's next... increased PD-10's (Police involved MVA's)... more people hurt while you're counting home off the 6 minutes you have before those brain cells start dropping off... not to mention the increased OT to cover for the Cop who's now out injured as a result of the accident AND the lawsuit Mom and the kids file.... boy... the cost keep adding up while you're dying... perhaps that $1000 is a deal now....? :-)

I'm not looking to play the "People are going to die" angle with this whole issue... because that is the extreme end of the argument.... the Cop could have been going to a Domestic... or silent hold-up alarm.... nor am I trying to be insulting Lex... you're too nice a guy... that is for a dead guy with a Sourball stuck in your throat.... but there so many other situations and ways that people's lives will be impacted with reduced staffing that WILL happen each and every day.

As for the PBA making this an issue for fear of reduced dues income.... like Gary D and NCPBA are facing.... SCPBA is a bit smarter... the dues structure has a provision to increase or decrease the dues rate based on the number of members to insure that the organization has a steady income and has the ability to function and serve it membership... without concern of the number of members.... so pumping up the ranks has little effect on the $$$ rolling in to the PBA... having been on the board at the time it was a great move and insures that the PBA can continue to serve it's members and voice it's concerns about issues that effect Cops and the public we serve... for all the RIGHT reasons... not because they're concerned about their own hides like the politicians!

Sorry I got so long winded... I hope I've added something to the mix.... I'll step off the soapbox now... next?

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[YupItsMeeeeeeeee]

"and hope it's not you or a loved one that crap out...."

Hope its not your home they send corrupt lieing pigs into to "enforce the law" One car is fine in my neighborhood, one less criminal....

[Justathought]

Seems I haven't had the pleasure of having the Police sent to my house for any reason... like 99% of the good folks out there... but just who are "they" and why did "they" feel it necessary to send the Police to your house in particular? I'm sure you were doing nothing wrong, it was all a mistake, you're a good caring neighbor, a provider, someone has it out for you, they're picking on you because you're (insert your excuse here), you're a church goer, salt of the earth type, 9-5 hardworking guy, you're a taxpayer, and you're yet another victim being picked on by a corrupt system that targets folks like you.

But why then are you in the 1%? And why did "they" send the Boys in Blue to YOUR door? I'm thinking that the car patrolling your neighborhood is there just so that the 99% feel safe knowing that "they" can call the Police when you get out of line.
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[Princess Vespa]

Seems like there were plenty of crusiers w/ the west bound service road, Sunrise Hwy, Great River blocked off earlier today.

Anyone care to share?

[deuce]

Child struck by auto, Serious injury, medivac to UHSB, crime scene.
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[Princess Vespa]

TY. Wondering what a child would be doing on a busy hwy, but hoping s/he will be fine.

[How Come]

How come when there is a funeral for a retired police officer they need 6 cars with lights and sirens stopping traffic and escorting them. Isn't that just dangerous for the living people? And isn't that expensive for the manpower to do that?

[imotj]

It's necessary because that person served the public for probably more than 20 years doing a job that most of the public would never do. That person put their own life at risk every day just by putting on his or her uniform for people they never met. THAT, combined with the loyalty of fellow officers (active and retired) is why a retired officer DESERVES that kind of treatment. Whatever the minimal monetary cost may be, oh well. So be it.