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Property Values v. School
11-20-2004, 09:10 AM
There is no correlation between quality of schools and the test results you mention. What counts is to talk to people who live in the district and have kids the age of yours. If yours are too young, then get a global view. Visit the schools, especially the hugh schools. Talk to HS students as well. Don't visit at 9:00 am. Every hs is calmer then. Go mid-day. If your concern is really quality, then this will tell you what you need to know. Also, go to a board meeting and see if the people on the board seem to know anything about education. See if they seem like people who are similar to you

from the inside
11-20-2004, 10:56 AM
Test scorrd measure the results on the students that the district has, not the quality of the schools. Show me a wealthy district with bad scores or an impoverished district with great scores. It is a self fulfilling prophecy. We need test scores that measure how much kids IMPROVE.

Wealthy District & Po
11-20-2004, 02:34 PM
Here's a profile on the Bellmore schools:

1 - Central High School Math Performance 2003-04, 80.5% meeting state standards in 8th grade math. County rank is at the half way mark. You pay very high taxes in support of mediocrity at the CHSD.

2 - There are 4 component elementary districts that make up the Central High School District (CHSD). Bellmore, Merrick, N. Bellmore, N. Merrick. So, there are 5 administrations that need to be supported here, which you pay for by voting on two budgets. Academically, the Bellmore's scores on the 2004 ELA were lower than Freeports and have been in the lower half of all 53 Nassau Districts in 4 out of the past 6 years. In 2001, they were scarcely 1% higher than Roosevelt. Again, you pay Bellmore taxes for Freeport/Roosevelt Results. Does this interest you?

At the least, you will pay for two adminisrations, each running about $2 million apiece. On top of that, when your child moves from the elementary to the secondary system there is a huge gap they can fall through as no one in the administration knows who you child is, what their needs are, what they perform good or bad in or what! This district lacks the consistentcy of a K-12 district in terms of academic performance, which is indicated by the above reference to the low scores on the 8th grade math test.

If you do indeed move here, you will find homes with values that are at the top of the scale, nearly ready to burst given the approaching hike in the fixed rate 30-year mortgage. So avoid paying top dollar if possible. Also, you must consider the impending multi-hundred million dollar lawsuits stemming from the Mepham H.S. football camp attack on 4 students as well as the most recent beating of a Kennedy H.S. student by other Kennedy H.S. students. (No doubt hyped up on drugs, which are plentiful given the wealth and liberalness of the south Bellmore/Merrick continent. When they discussed merging Roosevelt & Bellmore I thought it would create a market efficiency by brining drug sellers closer to the drug buyers - demand & supply). My neighbors didn't think this was amusing, but had no comment on its accuracy. The current estimates of paying for these attacks are anywhere from $2,500 - $5,000 per home school tax hit in liability and no chance of future coverage by an insurance agency.

Furthermore, keep in mind that whenever the subject of closing the failing Roosevelt Schools comes up, Bellmore/Merrick CHSD is the first choice on where to send them because these schools are underutilized and two of the Junior High Schools are closed, but still owned by the district.

Had I to do it all over again, I'd have stayed in Smithtown. Now, we wish we had bought in Wantagh.

My Schools
11-20-2004, 03:42 PM
I would buy in Lynbrook if I were you. My taxes were pretty reasonable when I was there (now in Garden City) and the academics seem to get better every year. The previous post is nutty! Bellmore-Merrick schools are great, despite the Mepham thing. Everybody still want to go there. That is why nobody can afford to buy there now, especially the southern parts. Franklin Square K-6 is good but they feed into Sewenhacka (spelling?) which is questionable I think.

Stay in Suffolk - you get more land at least!

PirateCougar
11-21-2004, 06:26 PM
Talk about nutty!, anyone suggesting you buy in Lynbrook must be off their rocker.

If you have any doubt the facts on Bellmore Merrick schools, just go to NYSED.Gov, the State Education Website and look it up for yourself. High home prices have more to do with convenience to NYC and cool waterfront property in abundance than with the mediocre schools.

go to school much?
11-22-2004, 01:56 PM
Sorry I even started this thing. Please dont post here anymore. I wish I could just stay in Suffolk.

Pirate Cougar
11-23-2004, 05:32 AM
Don't dispair Mr./Mrs. Homebuyer.

Put it this way, most Island schools are better than Roosevelt but not as good as Harvard. Average, nothing more than that!

KC

Bellmore/Merrick H.S. Grad!

Harvard Grad
11-23-2004, 04:05 PM
Nothing wrong with Lynbrook Schools. Well maybe the fact that the community and thus the board is either wealthy, middle class or poor. That creates drama.

Plenty wrong with Harvard though. Liberal elites that want to tax and spend their way to board rooms all around the USA! But what do you know, the property values around that place are wonderful. It is all in the community and the rep... that is as unscientific as it gets.

bmer
11-24-2004, 05:39 PM
You all want to analyze the efficacy of your schools...most schools on LI are good in that they provide the opportunities...when are we going to start talking about the dysfunctional parents who raise these kids...that's the real problem! I venture most of you who post here are included!
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USFD 101
11-28-2004, 06:16 AM
Previous poster writes:

"You all want to analyze the efficacy of your schools...most schools on LI are good in that they provide the opportunities...when are we going to start talking about the dysfunctional parents who raise these kids...that's the real problem! I venture most of you who post here are included!"

Enough of these liberal effete snobs - they are the real problem in Bellmore....limosine liberals who leave bags of grass on their kitchenette tables whilst they zip off to Golds Gym in an 8 mile per gallon socially irresponsible behemouth! Board housewives with cheating husbands but lots and lots of dirty money who have nothing better to do with their days than engage in gossip and rumor spreading (see previous post) and then have the nerve to criticize others in the community. These are the "dysfunctional" parents in town and we all know which side of the tracks they reside on!

bmer
11-28-2004, 07:40 AM
Ufsd 101...yea, you're right. These are the irresponsible parents I'm talking about...why would you think I'm one of them? I'm not. People have to stop looking to schools to solve all their problems...they must take responsibility for raising their children...not complain about the schools when their kids get messed up! That's my point and I think you agree.
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ufsd 101
11-29-2004, 05:31 AM
Doubtful.

Nassau Res
12-02-2004, 06:00 PM
It's DESPAIR, not DISPAIR! You wrote it twice. You're a real credit to the Bellmore/Merrick school district. I imagine spelling Harvard right is the closest you'll ever get to being there!