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[UnregisteredNEWSDAY]

Newsday reported that SCPD Officer Bowen was intoxicated when he was killed on the LIE in June.

There, but for the Grace of God, go I.

I am sure this story is going to get some play in the papers in the coming days. May he rest in peace and let his family grieve in peace.

Remember him for his service as a police officer and his service to his country as a Marine, fighting in two Middle East campaigns.

[Unregistered cs#872139]

Newsday reported that SCPD Officer Bowen was intoxicated when he was killed on the LIE in June.

There, but for the Grace of God, go I.

I am sure this story is going to get some play in the papers in the coming days. May he rest in peace and let his family grieve in peace.

Remember him for his service as a police officer and his service to his country as a Marine, fighting in two Middle East campaigns.

It's a shame Bowen, like many others, allowed alcohol to impair his judgement and dishonor the reputation he created for himself.

All the achievements and sacrifices he made, as well as his opportunity to live a good life, tossed in the garbage in exchange for a few hours of good times and laughs with other cops who were fortunate enough to make it home alive that night.

God Bless his wife and child.

[Unregistered palone]

It's a shame Bowen, like many others, allowed alcohol to impair his judgement and dishonor the reputation he created for himself.

All the achievements and sacrifices he made, as well as his opportunity to live a good life, tossed in the garbage in exchange for a few hours of good times and laughs with other cops who were fortunate enough to make it home alive that night.

God Bless his wife and child.

:)

[cut the god crap]

Newsday reported that SCPD Officer Bowen was intoxicated when he was killed on the LIE in June.

There, but for the Grace of God, go I.



Is that the same God that Bowen swore an oath before not to drink and drive?

Can we add two faced liar to his list of accomplishments?

http://expatyank.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/when-right-is-dead-wrong/

http://www.justicenewsflash.com/2009/06/25/suffolk-county-buries-2-police-officers_200906251542.html

[cut your head off]

Is that the same God that Bowen swore an oath before not to drink and drive?

Can we add two faced liar to his list of accomplishments?

http://expatyank.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/when-right-is-dead-wrong/

http://www.justicenewsflash.com/2009/06/25/suffolk-county-buries-2-police-officers_200906251542.html

there was no oath about drinking and driving you moron

[UnregisteredGETOFFIT]

Is that the same God that Bowen swore an oath before not to drink and drive?

Can we add two faced liar to his list of accomplishments?

http://expatyank.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/when-right-is-dead-wrong/

http://www.justicenewsflash.com/2009/06/25/suffolk-county-buries-2-police-officers_200906251542.html

I am a known SCPD basher that has been attacked on this Board and other boards for my criticisms of CERTAIN officers in the SCPD. Nothing I am about to say is going to change that or gain new friends within the ranks of the SCPD. I only post what I believe to be the right thing to do.

This Police Officer and Marine has the right to be assumed an honorable man, cop, and Marine, until such time it is otherwise proven that he is not.

He appears to have consumed alcohol and it MAY have led to his death. We will never really know if his drinking was a contributory factor. He only had a .15 reading. Years back, I believe one needed a .12 to be considered intoxicated. I don't excuse him for what he did, neither to I condemn him. All I do know is that he served in two military campaigns and served on the front line of those battles. There has been no reason to believe that he didn't serve honorably while a SCPD police officer.

Why would anyone want to dishonor the memory of this man for a simple lapse in judgement?

[232322]

Thanks Pete, that was well said. To answer your question though, it's the old "man bites dog" story. Police misconduct (on or off duty) is rare, so that when it does occur, the press runs with it. The public enjoys reading about it because it validates for them, that even the "enforcers of rule" occasionally fall, just as citizens themselves do. Plus, since the police are the omnipresent representative of government, it's payback for every frustration a citizen has ever had with the system.

[Unregistered veh]

Why would anyone want to dishonor the memory of this man for a simple lapse in judgement?

Are you referring to a selfish, weak minded man who killed himself and could have killed others who were not intoxicated?

[thinkaboutthis]

we are thankful for two things

#1 that his selfish act of being intoxicated whilst driving only killed himself and not other innocent drivers. Someone killing themselves while being intoxicated and driving is a right we all have. Don't knock it til you try it.

#2 That the SCPD DID NOT investigate this MVA and cover it up and blame the other drivers which as we all know would have definetly happened.

Nothing against the man but only his actions and consequences.

[get ova it.]

we are thankful for two things

#1 that his selfish act of being intoxicated whilst driving only killed himself and not other innocent drivers. Someone killing themselves while being intoxicated and driving is a right we all have. Don't knock it til you try it.

#2 That the SCPD DID NOT investigate this MVA and cover it up and blame the other drivers which as we all know would have definetly happened.

Nothing against the man but only his actions and consequences.

It would be incredibly hard to "blame" the other driver as he was rear ended, and cover what up? the fact that he was drunk? Hes dead, it really doesnt change anything, does it?
Other then trolls coming on here and getting their shots in on a dead guy, and expecting us, who were not there or involved to speak for him.
Sorry, Bowen drove drunk, I cant speak for him, justify his actions, nor would i want to.
Since then, there has been over 10 fatal mvas many involving drugs and booze. And a year from now, when the same trollz are still babbling about oaths and so forth, there will be a 100 more. None of them will be a intox scpd cop.

[think about this..]

It would be incredibly hard to "blame" the other driver as he was rear ended, and cover what up? the fact that he was drunk? Hes dead, it really doesnt change anything, does it?
Other then trolls coming on here and getting their shots in on a dead guy, and expecting us, who were not there or involved to speak for him.
Sorry, Bowen drove drunk, I cant speak for him, justify his actions, nor would i want to.
Since then, there has been over 10 fatal mvas many involving drugs and booze. And a year from now, when the same trollz are still babbling about oaths and so forth, there will be a 100 more. None of them will be a intox scpd cop.

well put

[Unregistered/madd/]

It would be incredibly hard to "blame" the other driver as he was rear ended, and cover what up? the fact that he was drunk? Hes dead, it really doesnt change anything, does it?
Other then trolls coming on here and getting their shots in on a dead guy, and expecting us, who were not there or involved to speak for him.
Sorry, Bowen drove drunk, I cant speak for him, justify his actions, nor would i want to.
Since then, there has been over 10 fatal mvas many involving drugs and booze. And a year from now, when the same trollz are still babbling about oaths and so forth, there will be a 100 more. None of them will be a intox scpd cop.

And you know this to be the truth....how?. How many off duty cops have driven drunk and been taken home by their fellow cops. There are no stats on that. Are you naive enough or just plain stupid to believe that it doesn't happen? If an accident happens were there is a complainant, then they have no choice, but absent those conditions we all know it goes on. So if you want to continue to pontificate how great you are, at least, be truthful.

[uhhmm moron...]

And you know this to be the truth....how?. How many off duty cops have driven drunk and been taken home by their fellow cops. There are no stats on that. Are you naive enough or just plain stupid to believe that it doesn't happen? If an accident happens were there is a complainant, then they have no choice, but absent those conditions we all know it goes on. So if you want to continue to pontificate how great you are, at least, be truthful.

did you read/comprehend the post you quoted?
FATAL mvas( thats where someone dies)

[baconeater]

did you read/comprehend the post you quoted?
FATAL mvas( thats where someone dies)

What that says is that if there's no accident or death, it's OK for the SCPD to do it. In that case it oughta be OK for the average citizen.

Fucking hypocrices.

[hypocrices??????]

What that says is that if there's no accident or death, it's OK for the SCPD to do it. In that case it oughta be OK for the average citizen.

Fucking hypocrices.

Ehh no skippy, what is says is the average citizen will account for a few 1000 fatal alcohol related motor vehicle accident before the next one that involves a cop.
Of course there should be none that involves a cop, and as you see by the 10 threads or so, its so rare that it is quite the topic of conversation. This topic will live on forever, 10 years from now the same unemployed trolls will be here at 0930 talking about bowen, and wright....
As opposed to the one over the weekend not involving a cop which only those immediately affected will even remember it tomorrow

[UnregisteredTHANX 4]

Thanks Pete, that was well said. To answer your question though, it's the old "man bites dog" story. Police misconduct (on or off duty) is rare, so that when it does occur, the press runs with it. The public enjoys reading about it because it validates for them, that even the "enforcers of rule" occasionally fall, just as citizens themselves do. Plus, since the police are the omnipresent representative of government, it's payback for every frustration a citizen has ever had with the system.

BUT NO THANKS -lol. Like I said I need not curry favor. There are those in SCPD that know the truth and it is their nature to remain silent. For the others I expect nothing but abuse.

I don't blame Newsday for writing the story. Truth is I found it to be basic reporting with the least amount of damage. Maybe that is because news folks are right behind cops in the drink and drive department.

Years ago a very well known reporter crashed his automobile into a pillar on the FDR drive. He was removed to the hospital in serious condition. He was promptly visited by Ray Kelly, who was then at least the 1st Deputy Commissioner, if not the PC.

Everyone knew the reporter to be a drunk. But some news people told me he had an even bigger problem.

The poor devil lived to die of cancer, if memory serves me right. Nary a word about his condition when he crashed into a fixed object at 4am.

The son of a ........... almost ruined by career in the police department with a bullshit story he took from a cop. The truth came out later, and I got promoted twice.

It goes with the territory. With a reading of .15 back in the day, I would have been able to walk across the Twin Towers on a tightrope. Today, I would probably crash and burn.

[true335]

It goes with the territory. With a reading of .15 back in the day, I would have been able to walk across the Twin Towers on a tightrope. Today, I would probably crash and burn.

No, the tightrope would still be doable. The difference is you'd be hung if caught. At TWICE THE LEGAL LIMIT. Omigod Newsday, play it up a little more, sactimonious hypocrites.

[Achilles]

And you know this to be the truth....how?. How many off duty cops have driven drunk and been taken home by their fellow cops. There are no stats on that. Are you naive enough or just plain stupid to believe that it doesn't happen? If an accident happens were there is a complainant, then they have no choice, but absent those conditions we all know it goes on. So if you want to continue to pontificate how great you are, at least, be truthful.

I can't remember the last time I stopped a cop, FOR ANYTHING. That's because cops are much safer drivers than the rest of the public and obey the laws at a much higher rate. There have been no off duty cops to drive home because I haven't had to stop any. My personal knowlede and experience trumps your baseless conjecture. Now, go fuck yourself!

[Unregistered22]

there've been plenty of stupid civilians who've been driven home/told to call a ride because at the discretion of the officer they did something stupid and didn't deserve to be put through the system.

[Unregisteredenuff]

When was the last time a cops child drowned unattended in a pool?
A cop left his child in a car?
a cop left his handgun laying around for a child to find?
I could go on and on, cops generally do not break the law and even if they lack some common sense SEE enough results of other peoples stupidity not to put themselves into those situations.
I'm a cop and I like to drink. When I do and how is up to me, I'm dont need to hear any lectures.
But I dont drive, even if I have to call a taxi.

[wowwww]

Suffolk County aint Mayberry and you cant throw someones keys in the weeds or tell them to sleep it off anymore

So you admit that you would have covered up the high alcohol content. If he didnt crash - If he didnt die?

How far can this go - un-fuckin-believable you cop hypocrites.

ITS WRONG AND YOU KNOW IT yet you still do it.

[seen this before]

Suffolk County aint Mayberry and you cant throw someones keys in the weeds or tell them to sleep it off anymore

So you admit that you would have covered up the high alcohol content. If he didnt crash - If he didnt die?

How far can this go - un-fuckin-believable you cop hypocrites.

ITS WRONG AND YOU KNOW IT yet you still do it.

How do we know you arent replying to your own set up post?

[wowwww]

we dont.

[UnregisteredONLY THE]

My very first arrest in the NYPD was for a DWI, when a man came to my attention by riding up over the curb and almost hitting me. No big deal. I locked him up. He happened to be a NYC Sanitation employee. I took some heat from my senior cops who told me you just don't arrest a fellow City employee unless you have to. Message received.

If it was a cop or a firefighter - It ain't gonna happen.

I am retired so I really don't give a chit what you think. But, I do hope you appreciate the honesty. Not getting arrested is just one of the perks of the job.

Any cop that will tell you that he wouldn't hesitate to lock up a cop for DWI is not the kind of cop you want on a police force.

Every so often another cop may put you in a position that you didn't want to be. Either you stand tall or you don't.

Some of these posters don't seem to get it when they read of others taking them to task for not locking up other cops. Leave it alone. Let them vent because they have every right to complain.

I don't drink and drive anymore because I realize times have changed. Most times I expect I will be given a free pass, but the chances I won't have increased to where it is no longer a guaranteed protection.

Any retired or active cop that now drinks and drives is an embarassment waiting to happen. The job is tough enough without subjecting yourself to a DWI if you should get into an accident.

[UnregisteredANOTHERDWI]

I was working New Years Eve on a foot post only blocks down from the incident I described above. While making my hourly ring from the call box, a man came barreling down at me and hit the tree only 5' in front of me. That guy was a civilian and he was as drunk as a skunk. That driver was a civilian and I called for an ambulance. I didn't get hurt and I didn't arrest the dopey bastard. I figured he suffered enough as he was badly hurt. I wasn't even yet a drinker at that time in my life, and I caught up with it very soon thereafter.

I went to Florida one day to play my civilian drunk friend's horse in the 9th race at Hialeah. It was a spur of the moment thing. We got boxed in the JFK lounge waiting to get on the plane. We missed the plane due to our drunkeness and our luggage went down with it. We caught the next plane and flew first class and must have drunk the supply of the plane's inventory. I got off the plane blind drunk and somehow was given a car by Avis to get me to the track on time. My buddy went looking for the luggage. BOOM! an accident that could have ended my life. I got hit by two cars going thru an intersection. I was knocked unconscious, went out the rear window and was thrown back into the drivers seat. The steering wheel looked like a pretzel.

The other two drivers were also drunk. We got to the track and played the horse, Eccentrical, and, as expected by me, the horse ran dead last. I didn't bet on it. My friend got his luggage out of the trunk, and my luggage was squashed in and I was unable to retrieve it. The car went to a lot. We had to go there that night after the hospital and had to climb over the fence after feeding the attack dogs with several pounds of bolony. This time we went to Hertz for our new car, which I promptly crashed before I left the parking lot of the hotel we were staying at. But it was good enough to drive to where we would get stopped on Collins Ave., for speeding. My friend was behind the wheel. The cop extended him a courtesy because of me and told my friend that I should drive. My friend told the cop, "are you kidding me, he is drunker that I am." I drove off.

Not a chance that if this was today I would have gotten away with this. Times have changed. That is why I tried not to be a hypocrite in all matters of police work.

[Unregistered/sureyoudid]

I can't remember the last time I stopped a cop, FOR ANYTHING. That's because cops are much safer drivers than the rest of the public and obey the laws at a much higher rate. There have been no off duty cops to drive home because I haven't had to stop any. My personal knowlede and experience trumps your baseless conjecture. Now, go fuck yourself!

The drunken cop is not baseless conjecture. If it happenes once, it happens many times. Its to bad your arrogance will not let you tell the truth. Just like there is no corruption on the scpd, but then when it happens its the" only happens once in awhile scenario", typical of the pompous cops who think their shit don't stink.

[Unregistered/33fu]

I can't remember the last time I stopped a cop, FOR ANYTHING. That's because cops are much safer drivers than the rest of the public and obey the laws at a much higher rate. There have been no off duty cops to drive home because I haven't had to stop any. My personal knowlede and experience trumps your baseless conjecture. Now, go fuck yourself!

Can't stop anybody when your in the firehouse.

[command 30]

Can't stop anybody when your in the firehouse.

Well I'm not in the firehouse, i've written as many as 100 tickets in a month, over 1000 a year. I had 3 years straight with at least one dwi a month, and 7 years of an arrest every month. My beast dwi year was 26, and my best overall arrest was 83.
I've stopped cops for traffic violations. Never for a dwi. Does that mean no cop ever drives drunk, probably not. Its just not a common occurrence, or as common as the anticop posters would like to believe.

[Unregistered/likewize]

The drunken cop is not baseless conjecture. If it happenes once, it happens many times. Its to bad your arrogance will not let you tell the truth. Just like there is no corruption on the scpd, but then when it happens its the" only happens once in awhile scenario", typical of the pompous cops who think their shit don't stink.

The drunk cop probably is not conjecture, but who is to say how common it is. certainly not you anticop posters. Its not as common as it used to be, and where you get all your anecdotal stories. My dad was a cop in the 60s he made 17k. If he lost his job, he'd just go full time in his hobby, building boats. Nowadays jobs like scpd arent a dime a dozen.
For you to take the other stance, the "if it happened once it happens many times" is just as pompous.

[UnregisteredFORGIVE]

Can't stop anybody when your in the firehouse.

BECAUSE THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO. Instead of just keeping quiet about it, some of them take delight is trying to bullshit you.

Any cop that would lock up another cop for DWI doesn't deserve to be a cop. I don't condemn them for protecting their own because that is what they are supposed to do within their own sphere of influence.

SCPD seems to be an extraordinary group of cops that don't drink and drive. Just go to any cop bar and watch them drink and then drive. That is what a good number of cops do. I didn't drink with other cops because I didn't like what came from them after they had too much.

Any boss that goes to a racket is wise to leave before the party gets out of control.

I even got it on some pretty decent authority that a well known DA has been grabbed in both Suffolk and Nassau for DWI, and after a phone call the DA was allowed to proceed home. That person then goes out on crusades to punish drunk drivers.

[Billie Bartend]

The drunk cop probably is not conjecture, but who is to say how common it is.

The guy or gal who serves them multiple drinks, on multiple nights over the course of a month can tell you.

If it weren't for cops with an alcohol problem I would be working a real job to make a living.

Just because I smile and nod at your drunken stupidness does not mean I like or admire you. You're a drunk fool and I am pimping your sickness.

[thebarwench personna???]

The guy or gal who serves them multiple drinks, on multiple nights over the course of a month can tell you.

If it weren't for cops with an alcohol problem I would be working a real job to make a living.

Just because I smile and nod at your drunken stupidness does not mean I like or admire you. You're a drunk fool and I am pimping your sickness.

Wow right on Que!!!
how'd you know to post here right now when your argument needed you the mostNext up the slutty barmaid who serves drinks to suffolk cops and watches them stagger to their cars to drive.

[Unregisteredlamooo]

The guy or gal who serves them multiple drinks, on multiple nights over the course of a month can tell you.

If it weren't for cops with an alcohol problem I would be working a real job to make a living.

Just because I smile and nod at your drunken stupidness does not mean I like or admire you. You're a drunk fool and I am pimping your sickness.

You are missing the point. its not a crime to be a drunk, its a crime to drink drunk

[Unregistered2funnie]

Wow right on Que!!!
how'd you know to post here right now when your argument needed you the most

been around long enough you can set your clock by these losers huh?

[Unregistered2 funnie]

You are missing the point. its not a crime to be a drunk, its a crime to drink drunk

to drink drunk???
LOL!!!
I hope you meant drive

[doingmyjob]

been around long enough you can set your clock by these losers huh?
Lol. pretty simple.
If its a thread about booze you are going to get a bar worker
It its a thread about food, you'll get a restaurant owner.
It used to be bad, but after we began challenging them, like the nypd copp with 20 years on who didnt know what date of hire he had, ot more recently the guy with 20 years on scpd who got his a number wrong...they calmed down. We had lawyers and I think a few celebs even posting here

[Unregistered/md]

I can't remember the last time I stopped a cop, FOR ANYTHING. That's because cops are much safer drivers than the rest of the public and obey the laws at a much higher rate. There have been no off duty cops to drive home because I haven't had to stop any. My personal knowlede and experience trumps your baseless conjecture. Now, go fuck yourself!

Thats like saying doctors don't smoke/drink or take drugs because they know its bad for them. Get real you asshole. Come down from your ivory tower and stop being a pompous ass like the rest of the cops on this site.

[Unregistered/33fu]

Well I'm not in the firehouse, i've written as many as 100 tickets in a month, over 1000 a year. I had 3 years straight with at least one dwi a month, and 7 years of an arrest every month. My beast dwi year was 26, and my best overall arrest was 83.
I've stopped cops for traffic violations. Never for a dwi. Does that mean no cop ever drives drunk, probably not. Its just not a common occurrence, or as common as the anticop posters would like to believe.

Then direct that comment to your idiot cop friend Achilles.
BTW, how many summons did you issue to those cops you stopped, or do I already know the answer. Zero

[Achilles]

The drunken cop is not baseless conjecture. If it happenes once, it happens many times. Its to bad your arrogance will not let you tell the truth. Just like there is no corruption on the scpd, but then when it happens its the" only happens once in awhile scenario", typical of the pompous cops who think their shit don't stink.

Prove it. Show the proof that cops are driving drunk. Unless you can show some evidence of it, it's not happening. All you have is your worthless point of view. It doesn't automatically become true if you keep making the allegation. Now run along, douche bag.

[Achilles]

Can't stop anybody when your in the firehouse.

And you've seen ME in the firehouse? That's funny. More worthless anecdotal crap from a worthless individual. By the way it's you're, not your. Fucking idiot.

[Achilles]

Thats like saying doctors don't smoke/drink or take drugs because they know its bad for them. Get real you asshole. Come down from your ivory tower and stop being a pompous ass like the rest of the cops on this site.

I happen to like the view from my ivory tower. The stench from you, the Great Unwashed isn't so overwhelming. Pompous? Maybe I am, but I have justification for it. I really am better than you. It just irritates you that I choose to show it over and over.

[UnregisteredRUDELY]

The poster who said some bartenders actually despise you while smiling at you is a lot more than you think. The more drunk you get the more you boast about your exploits and your 'heroic' acts.

Every police department has them, not just SCPD.

I know of one bartender that got sick of watching them get drunk and saying who is going to arrest us - we are the police.

Cops drink more not because they are criminals or arrogant, but because of their social condition and work condition. They move in different circles and at different times of the day and night. Back in my day drinks were free of charge and nobody would take your money.

Whatever drinking problem I had, I rarely drank at home. I have bottles of unopened booze going back almost 40 years. I more than made up for it at the bars and clubs.

[Not impressed at all]

I read this post with a certain amount of disgust. Some for the heartless person who crept so low into the bastion of hate that he felt it was ok to post this stuff about a man who fought not once, but twice for our country. He was just a guy, who made an error in judgement and drove his car after consuming one too many drinks. I don'tpresume to understand what was on his mind at the time. Maybe he was dealing with some demons in his memory based on things he saw over there in IRAQ while maintaining OUR freedoms. Maybe he just had a bad day like any one of can and he dealt with it in this way. Maybe he just felt totally great and was celebrating. Whatever his mood, we will never know. If we are ourselves without sin, then we can presume to judge him, if not then we can only base our opinions of him on what he accomplished, gave up, and did for his fellow man while on this Earth. His accomplishments far outweigh his one very public misdeed. In the end, he was the only person involved in the accident and the only one who died as a result of the accident. So - no harm, no foul. I still cant believe the original poster of this thread thought so very much of himself that it was ok for him to bring this crap up and stir the poor dead guys name in the mud.

Nice job asshole, maybe in your spare time, when not bashing some poor bastard who died, you can find a reason to stomp on the Pope or Mother Theresa too?

D!CK

[UnregisteredEVIL PEOPLE]

SPEAKING OF BASHING THE POPE. Many years ago I was at the track and went to the urinal. In the urinal was a newspaper of the Pope. I gingerly took it out. There is at least one poster that said that he would like to put Chief Ponzo's picture in the urinal so everyone could piss on it.

What kind of evil person would even think about putting the picture of a religious leader in a urinal?

All Officer Bowen did was to have a few drinks to the extent he would be legally intoxicated. Being legally intoxicated and driving a car with a loss of faculties is not one and the same thing. For all we know he could have fallen asleep at the wheel.

Personally, I don't believe he was so legally DWI that it affected his ability to drive. Maybe it was simply due to speeding home at 4:00AM and he was distracted and lost control.

He, and his family deserve our prayers, not our condemnation.

I was in three life threatening accidents while I was driving in far excess of a .15, and survived them all with nothing but a couple of cracked ribs to show for it and without a seat belt.

His time just came and there is nothing that will bring him back. We can never know how many of his comrades in arms he saved while engaging in this extraordinary feat of a Marine sniper.

I know of one very decent man that has traveled outside of his country for the express purpose of killing his nation's enemies. Now that a tragic event has come to his family, he wonders if God isn't punishing him for his act.

[Unregisteredqqq]

The poster who said some bartenders actually despise you while smiling at you is a lot more than you think. The more drunk you get the more you boast about your exploits and your 'heroic' acts.

Every police department has them, not just SCPD.

I know of one bartender that got sick of watching them get drunk and saying who is going to arrest us - we are the police.

Cops drink more not because they are criminals or arrogant, but because of their social condition and work condition. They move in different circles and at different times of the day and night. Back in my day drinks were free of charge and nobody would take your money.

Whatever drinking problem I had, I rarely drank at home. I have bottles of unopened booze going back almost 40 years. I more than made up for it at the bars and clubs.

but not all cops drink. not all cops drink out at a bar. some cops drink at home. some call a cab. some only drink when they are off.
alcoholism is rampant in our society. when you walk into a bar of 40 blithering drunks there may be one or two cops from the dozens of law agencies living out here. there arent any more "cop bars"

[Unregistered/D(u)M]

Thats like saying doctors don't smoke/drink or take drugs because they know its bad for them. Get real you asshole. Come down from your ivory tower and stop being a pompous ass like the rest of the cops on this site.

I would say a smaller % of doctors smoke drink to excess or take illegal drugs then the average schmuck. I have heard of a study that doctors eat a healthier diet then average people because of their education.
The urban myths of cops going to work, eating donuts and then after work drinking until they drop are old. Really old.
There may be cops who still do this, but they are the minority, as opposed to the majority.

[had n nough]

so much is mentioned about drinking in this post.Why is there no mention about cops drinking while carrying a firearm.It seems to me common sense should prevail.If you know your going to drink why not leave your firearm home,or in your gun locker? That would start your night off with a smart decision

[non-issssssue]

so much is mentioned about drinking in this post.Why is there no mention about cops drinking while carrying a firearm.It seems to me common sense should prevail.If you know your going to drink why not leave your firearm home,or in your gun locker? That would start your night off with a smart decision

Dont know if that is an issue. Scpd is not required to carry off duty.

[Unregistered/howbusy]

Well I'm not in the firehouse, i've written as many as 100 tickets in a month, over 1000 a year. I had 3 years straight with at least one dwi a month, and 7 years of an arrest every month. My beast dwi year was 26, and my best overall arrest was 83.
I've stopped cops for traffic violations. Never for a dwi. Does that mean no cop ever drives drunk, probably not. Its just not a common occurrence, or as common as the anticop posters would like to believe.

Let's see here. How busy can you really be. 100 tickets a month thats about 6 tickets a tour, not counting the stops you made where you used your "discretion" as per the cpl. not to give out a ticket(you know other cops, vollies, store owners who give you free meals, etc") could bring it to around 10 car stops a tour, throw in a few arrests a month, that means you can't have many jobs to respond to if you have all that time for traffic enforcement. The pba complains of how shorthanded they are but yet you can spend all this time on tickets/arrests. Cops complaining about not being proactive, just jumping from one job to another, seems to me either you are the exception to the rule or the pba is just flat out lying. Seems to me that when a cop like you can be so active pursuing summons/arrests, he has alot of time to just patrol his sector without much interruption. Looks like somebody is not telling the public the real truth.

[command 30]

Let's see here. How busy can you really be. 100 tickets a month thats about 6 tickets a tour, not counting the stops you made where you used your "discretion" as per the cpl. not to give out a ticket(you know other cops, vollies, store owners who give you free meals, etc") could bring it to around 10 car stops a tour, throw in a few arrests a month, that means you can't have many jobs to respond to if you have all that time for traffic enforcement. The pba complains of how shorthanded they are but yet you can spend all this time on tickets/arrests. Cops complaining about not being proactive, just jumping from one job to another, seems to me either you are the exception to the rule or the pba is just flat out lying. Seems to me that when a cop like you can be so active pursuing summons/arrests, he has alot of time to just patrol his sector without much interruption. Looks like somebody is not telling the public the real truth.

Who says I work a sector car? See my name? Dont jump to conculsions based on your level of idiocy!!!
figure it out moron!!!

[backsplash///\\\= jealous]

Let's see here. How busy can you really be. 100 tickets a month thats about 6 tickets a tour, not counting the stops you made where you used your "discretion" as per the cpl. not to give out a ticket(you know other cops, vollies, store owners who give you free meals, etc") could bring it to around 10 car stops a tour, throw in a few arrests a month, that means you can't have many jobs to respond to if you have all that time for traffic enforcement. The pba complains of how shorthanded they are but yet you can spend all this time on tickets/arrests. Cops complaining about not being proactive, just jumping from one job to another, seems to me either you are the exception to the rule or the pba is just flat out lying. Seems to me that when a cop like you can be so active pursuing summons/arrests, he has alot of time to just patrol his sector without much interruption. Looks like somebody is not telling the public the real truth.

This is why you dont tell these morons anything. If you attempt to tell them how busy you are they spin it against you.
This isnt a conversation with an open mind. Look at the time hes posting, its a dead end with an agenda.

[Unregistered352]

Thats kinda funny. Also shows how little knowledge you have. I could knock out 100 tickets in less then 20 stops. If I wanted to. Key word IF.

[more math guffaws]

Let's see here. How busy can you really be. 100 tickets a month thats about 6 tickets a tour, not counting the stops you made where you used your "discretion" as per .

cops scheduled to work 20 days a month, try 5 tickets a tour.
DOPE

[Unregistered/dopeyer]

cops scheduled to work 20 days a month, try 5 tickets a tour.
DOPE

Cops don't work 20 days a month,asshole.

[warnadmonish]

Thats kinda funny. Also shows how little knowledge you have. I could knock out 100 tickets in less then 20 stops. If I wanted to. Key word IF.

I dont even write the person unless I can get 6-7 tickets.
not all that hard our here

[Unregistered/dumb]

Cops don't work 20 days a month,asshole.

Yeah they do. Not including vacation or sick time.
Is this going to be your new argument?
You lost everything else

[Unregistered/notfactual]

Cops don't work 20 days a month,asshole.

you have them working 16.6 days at 6 tickets a day for 100 a month.
asshole thats wrong, unless they are working midnites with 10 hour tours.
asshole

[100/6=16.6????]

you have them working 16.6 days at 6 tickets a day for 100 a month.
asshole thats wrong, unless they are working midnites with 10 hour tours.
asshole

That is an oddball number. Why would anyone be so stupid? No one works 16.6 days a month.
This shitbag is great, he thinks hes intelligent, but everytime he aggressively attacks, which is pretty frequent, he is proven wrong.

[lol/lol/lol/lol/lol/lol/]

That is an oddball number. Why would anyone be so stupid? No one works 16.6 days a month.
This shitbag is great, he thinks hes intelligent, but everytime he aggressively attacks, which is pretty frequent, he is proven wrong.

Whats great is he'll start off on some grandiose topic, but a week later after being proven wrong on all counts, he'll still be arguing about how many days off we have, or how many hours of o/t equals 35k.

[microphallus]

Let's see here. How busy can you really be. 100 tickets a month thats about 6 tickets a tour, not counting the stops you made where you used your "discretion" as per the cpl. not to give out a ticket(you know other cops, vollies, store owners who give you free meals, etc") could bring it to around 10 car stops a tour, throw in a few arrests a month, that means you can't have many jobs to respond to if you have all that time for traffic enforcement. The pba complains of how shorthanded they are but yet you can spend all this time on tickets/arrests. Cops complaining about not being proactive, just jumping from one job to another, seems to me either you are the exception to the rule or the pba is just flat out lying. Seems to me that when a cop like you can be so active pursuing summons/arrests, he has alot of time to just patrol his sector without much interruption. Looks like somebody is not telling the public the real truth.



this could be a quote from the great steve or BENdmydick himself

[you/rock\troll]

Whats great is he'll start off on some grandiose topic, but a week later after being proven wrong on all counts, he'll still be arguing about how many days off we have, or how many hours of o/t equals 35k.

Lol, and yet he still keeps coming back.
Thats why he rocks

[The Hornet]

Whats great is he'll start off on some grandiose topic, but a week later after being proven wrong on all counts, he'll still be arguing about how many days off we have, or how many hours of o/t equals 35k.

The real sad part is that losers like you will continue to argue with it.

[Unregisteredsmiley]

The real sad part is that losers like you will continue to argue with it.

and the real sad part is losers like you will insert yourself in it too.

[The Hornet]

It's a shame Bowen, like many others, allowed alcohol to impair his judgement and dishonor the reputation he created for himself.

All the achievements and sacrifices he made, as well as his opportunity to live a good life, tossed in the garbage in exchange for a few hours of good times and laughs with other cops who were fortunate enough to make it home alive that night.

God Bless his wife and child.

I understand in the wake of this tragic yet preventable death, drinking after work has decreased .00000011%.

Obviously Officer Bowen's untimely passing has had a strong impact on his colleagues in arms. :o

[knowwhereucomin from]

I understand in the wake of this tragic yet preventable death, drinking after work has decreased .00000011%.

Obviously Officer Bowen's untimely passing has had a strong impact on his colleagues in arms. :o

In the weeks since bowen crashed we have had 9 dwi fatals. Not one involved any cop.
Over the next year, that number will grow, and it still will not include any scpd. It will continue this way for years.But morons like you will still be talking about bowen, and "all" the scpd drunks driving around.
Not because its true or that you know of any, but because you can.
Thats the beauty of the internet, it lets you get even for real life a little bit, right?

[hahahahahahahahahahaha]

I understand in the wake of this tragic yet preventable death, drinking after work has decreased .00000011%.

Obviously Officer Bowen's untimely passing has had a strong impact on his colleagues in arms. :o

you are just pissed cuz you got the I'm rubber your glue treatment for chiming in with your last post

[The Hornet]

In the weeks since bowen crashed we have had 9 dwi fatals. Not one involved any cop.
Over the next year, that number will grow, and it still will not include any scpd. It will continue this way for years.But morons like you will still be talking about bowen, and "all" the scpd drunks driving around.
Not because its true or that you know of any, but because you can.
Thats the beauty of the internet, it lets you get even for real life a little bit, right?

It's been established Officer Bowen was drinking with other officers on the night he killed himself.

Was Bowen the only officer who drove impaired or intoxicated that night?

[Unregistered983491862]

It's been established Officer Bowen was drinking with other officers on the night he killed himself.

Was Bowen the only officer who drove impaired or intoxicated that night?

Yes

[Unregisteredhar]

Yes

hahahahahahahahahahaha!

[Unregisteredsmiley]

It's been established Officer Bowen was drinking with other officers on the night he killed himself.

Was Bowen the only officer who drove impaired or intoxicated that night?

nice i really got under your skin ....

[Unregisteredstfu]

It's been established Officer Bowen was drinking with other officers on the night he killed himself.

Was Bowen the only officer who drove impaired or intoxicated that night?

Where did you get that?
Its been established that bowen was drinking.
It hasnt been established where or with whom, or if anyone else had alcoholic beverages

[Unregissunk]

Where did you get that?
Its been established that bowen was drinking.
It hasnt been established where or with whom, or if anyone else had alcoholic beverages

Unfortunately, his own wife said to newsday that he went out with co-workers from the 3rd after his 3-11 shift

[Unregistered misd]

Where did you get that?
Its been established that bowen was drinking.
It hasnt been established where or with whom, or if anyone else had alcoholic beverages

Try reading Holly Berman's interview of the bartender who served him and 7 other cops that evening.

[Unregisterednotanswered]

Unfortunately, his own wife said to newsday that he went out with co-workers from the 3rd after his 3-11 shift

and where does it say they drove drunk too?

[Unregistered ok]

Try reading Holly Berman's interview of the bartender who served him and 7 other cops that evening.

post it...

[Unregistered ok]

Unfortunately, his own wife said to newsday that he went out with co-workers from the 3rd after his 3-11 shift

ok, and that was at 1100, the mva occurred around 0400... 5 hours later.....going out doesnt imply drinking and then driving home drunk...

[Unregisok]

ok, and that was at 1100, the mva occurred around 0400... 5 hours later.....going out doesnt imply drinking and then driving home drunk...

no it doesnt inply it, however the blood analysis autopsy results showed he was intox. last thing he was doing prior to his death, was driving. 2+2. The injuries from the mva as a result of HIM driving, caused his own death.

[Unregistered/durrrr]

Yeah they do. Not including vacation or sick time.
Is this going to be your new argument?
You lost everything else

What about the chart days?

[follow it skippy]

no it doesnt inply it, however the blood analysis autopsy results showed he was intox. last thing he was doing prior to his death, was driving. 2+2. The injuries from the mva as a result of HIM driving, caused his own death.

The current discussion is not bowen but the supposed other cops he went out with

[really durrrrrr]

What about the chart days?

Well lets see, you get 10 chart days a year, over 12 months. So depending on how many days are in the month, (30 days has Sept, April, June and November) there is a chance you might work 19 instead of 20 in 5 months out of 12, for your chart days in those months, and february.
If your chart days are only in 3 of those 5 months, the average days will be higher, and if you dont get your chart days in the months with 31 days you work 21 days those two months.
The minimum days work would be 19.75...which would happen If all the months with 31 days you have a chart day, and you worked 20 a month, and 3 of the 5 with 30(including feb) you worked 19, and the other 2 with no chart days you worked 20.
Thats still far better then your over exxagerated fantasy of 16.6 days per month.

[ANOTHER DURRRRRR]

no it doesnt inply it, however the blood analysis autopsy results showed he was intox. last thing he was doing prior to his death, was driving. 2+2. The injuries from the mva as a result of HIM driving, caused his own death.

COWORKERS TURD...FOLLOW THE TOPIC

[UnregisteredWHYIS]

COWORKERS TURD...FOLLOW THE TOPIC

THAT when alcohol is found in the blood after a MVA, it is automatically assumed the booze was a contributing factor, if not the only factor?

[artistic/license]

Thats still far better then your over exxagerated fantasy of 16.6 days per month.

Oh no, on this board thats called artistic license.
What that means is the troll you are trying to engage in a normal discussion will lie through his teeth, to skew the issue in his favor, and unless you look at the lie and challenge it he will claim it to be the truth, and argue until proven wrong.
This is an ongoing cycle that has been played out here for years by this very same troll over and over. And I've yet to see him win one point.

[artistic/license]

THAT when alcohol is found in the blood after a MVA, it is automatically assumed the booze was a contributing factor, if not the only factor?

not the issue, the issue is the claim that multiple cops were drinking with bowen and all drove home intox.
Now a loser is claiming there was a bartender who was interviewed and stated she served 7 "cops" that "evening" who were with bowen.
I never heard of 11pm or later being called evening, either...

[Unregisteredletsee]

Unfortunately, his own wife said to newsday that he went out with co-workers from the 3rd after his 3-11 shift

AND...
They all drank?
They all drank until intox?
They all drove after drinking and becoming intox?

[howd she know]

Try reading Holly Berman's interview of the bartender who served him and 7 other cops that evening.

What where they in uniform?

[Unregisturnoti]

COWORKERS TURD...FOLLOW THE TOPIC

azzhole go back and READ the 1st post.....HIM one solo.....not the others, co-workers,,,etc...that HE took and oath, god bless HIS wife and child not THEIR wives it was about HIM. Having trouble reading try primary school again

[try kindergarten]

azzhole go back and READ the 1st post.....HIM one solo.....not the others, co-workers,,,etc...that HE took and oath, god bless HIS wife and child not THEIR wives it was about HIM. Having trouble reading try primary school again

azzhole if you took the time to review the current line of discussion, azzhole, you would see, azzhole that the topic is this;
It's been established Officer Bowen was drinking with other officers on the night he killed himself.

Was Bowen the only officer who drove impaired or intoxicated that night?
azzhole the post you quoted is in response to this post, not the original post, azzhole.
Anymore questions ASSHOLE?

[azzhole/asshole]

ok, and that was at 1100, the mva occurred around 0400... 5 hours later.....going out doesnt imply drinking and then driving home drunk...

This post, the one orginally quoted by you, or the troll you are defending is talking about the idiotic insinuation that bowen went out with several of his friends and they all drove home drunk.
dont jump a thread and hurl insults unless you know what the fuck you are talking about moron

[reading comprehension]

azzhole go back and READ the 1st post.....HIM one solo.....not the others, co-workers,,,etc...that HE took and oath, god bless HIS wife and child not THEIR wives it was about HIM. Having trouble reading try primary school again

The 1st post is not what was being discussed in the post you quoted.

[Unregisthaha]

azzhole if you took the time to review the current line of discussion, azzhole, you would see, azzhole that the topic is this;

azzhole the post you quoted is in response to this post, not the original post, azzhole.
Anymore questions ASSHOLE?

Ok azzhole, maybe they didnt cover that in GED land, you stated follow the TOPIC. The title of the TOPIC was ONLINE STORY, so the response for you, was correct. So your reply was incorrect for the application point you were attempting to acheive. Any further question??

[acheive?????????????]

Ok azzhole, maybe they didnt cover that in GED land, you stated follow the TOPIC. The title of the TOPIC was ONLINE STORY, so the response for you, was correct. So your reply was incorrect for the application point you were attempting to acheive. Any further question??

The topic of the post you quoted was not the 1st post.
It was the 67th post. That was the topic I was referring to. Got it now?
And in ged land did they teach you i before e except after c???


And no no futher questions, you've answered them all.
You are a dumbass

[reading comprehension]

Ok azzhole, maybe they didnt cover that in GED land, you stated follow the TOPIC. The title of the TOPIC was ONLINE STORY, so the response for you, was correct. So your reply was incorrect for the application point you were attempting to acheive. Any further question??

Thats a ok spin, but why would you quote the post you did which is a totally different topic?
Why would you argue the point you did there, which has nothing to do with the topic at hand?
It reads like you butted in without knowing what the fuck was being discussed and are going to spend the rest of your day trying to validate your gaffe.
Ohhhhhh, if you are going to crack ged jokes, get your elementary school rules of grammar correct.

[hahahahahahahahaha]

Ok azzhole, maybe they didnt cover that in GED land, you stated follow the TOPIC. The title of the TOPIC was ONLINE STORY, so the response for you, was correct. So your reply was incorrect for the application point you were attempting to acheive. Any further question??

Then why didnt you achieve to quote the 1st post, instead of trying to make a point out a post that had nothing to do with bowen, but rather alledged other cops?

[hahahahahahahahahahahaha]

Ohhhhhh, if you are going to crack ged jokes, get your elementary school rules of grammar correct.

lo fucking l!!

[Unreglol]

Ohhhhhh, if you are going to crack ged jokes, get your elementary school rules of grammar correct.

LOL That would be rules of spelling, not grammer.

[UnregisteredLOL!!!!]

LOL That would be rules of spelling, not grammer.

grammer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You suck ass

[hahahahahahahahahahahaha]

LOL That would be rules of spelling, not grammer.

acheive grammer

[Unregisteredumberer]

LOL That would be rules of spelling, not grammer.


That would be the rules of darwin.

[summerskool]

LOL That would be rules of spelling, not grammer.

Im glad for you that you at least know what rules of the English language are giving you fits.

[acheive grammer]

LOL That would be rules of spelling, not grammer.

I think i'd rather be wrong about which rule of language a troll violated, then be a troll who was trying to talk down to someone and insult their intelligence, only to violate rules of the English language, spelling or other, and be exposed as a buffoon.
And then try to save face by correcting him again, only to spell a word already written incorrectly.
but thats just me.

[Unreg-stered]

Has the PD released the names of the other officers who were drinking with Bowen on the night he killed himself?

[Unregisteredyup]

Has the PD released the names of the other officers who were drinking with Bowen on the night he killed himself?

yup richard dormer and robert ponzo

[Unregisteredoneee]

Has the PD released the names of the other officers who were drinking with Bowen on the night he killed himself?

Jenna Jameson and Raquel Darrian

[Unregistered2 more]

Wile E. coyote and Road runner

[Unregistered/realduh]

Well lets see, you get 10 chart days a year, over 12 months. So depending on how many days are in the month, (30 days has Sept, April, June and November) there is a chance you might work 19 instead of 20 in 5 months out of 12, for your chart days in those months, and february.
If your chart days are only in 3 of those 5 months, the average days will be higher, and if you dont get your chart days in the months with 31 days you work 21 days those two months.
The minimum days work would be 19.75...which would happen If all the months with 31 days you have a chart day, and you worked 20 a month, and 3 of the 5 with 30(including feb) you worked 19, and the other 2 with no chart days you worked 20.
Thats still far better then your over exxagerated fantasy of 16.6 days per month.

The main point here is that you are fudging from your 20 days a month crap. Lets throw in you 27vd and 5(6) pl days and we have 32 or so, throw in at least 3 sdays and you have 36 divided by 12 brings it to -3 which makes it just about 16.5 days a month that the average cop works . Your argument would be more credible if you just were honest, along with the crap that cops don't drive drunk or corruption doesn't exist or we don't have any fck ups in the pd or that we are the best that suffolk has to offer and all the rest of your arrogant arguments. Cops are selected from the mainstream in society and have all the problems associated with the rest of us human beings. So I guess my exxagerated fantasy of 16.5 days per month is not so exxagerated. What kind of spin are you going to throw next?

[Unregistered/off topic]

The main point here is that you are fudging from your 20 days a month crap. Lets throw in you 27vd and 5(6) pl days and we have 32 or so, throw in at least 3 sdays and you have 36 divided by 12 brings it to -3 which makes it just about 16.5 days a month that the average cop works . Your argument would be more credible if you just were honest, along with the crap that cops don't drive drunk or corruption doesn't exist or we don't have any fck ups in the pd or that we are the best that suffolk has to offer and all the rest of your arrogant arguments. Cops are selected from the mainstream in society and have all the problems associated with the rest of us human beings. So I guess my exxagerated fantasy of 16.5 days per month is not so exxagerated. What kind of spin are you going to throw next?

You dont get 27 vacation days until year 15. You get 20. No one I know uses all their vacation time until they've maxed out their vacation bank.
So even there you are wrong.
We are discussing days of work. We are obligated to work 20 days a month. If we work less we are giving our days in the bank up same as any other dept.
Here is what happened. You thought you knew what you were talking about, as always. You didnt. You always claim scpd works "teachers schedule" and posted as such. So now, 3 weeks later you are including NONSCHEDULED days off, because you lost the discussion.
the rest of what you've posted has not been part of this discussion, but its an exxageration(go figure...lol) of many arguments in the past.
Cops are chosen from society, but not randomly. For starters a conviction of a misdemeanor you are disqualified. If you are charged with a misdemeanor and pled out, disqualified. 25k people a year are charged with a misdemeanor in suffolk, 6k charged with felonies. And these people are most certainly part of the mainstream. Next, no drug use within XX years. Drug tests, credit check, pysche, wunderlic test, and physical test. Of the 15k eligible applicants from mainstream society more then 1/2 are dqed by these tests.
you have to lead a pretty clean life to get through.
you say corruption, you mean widescale, rampant crime by police? Because that is what corruption is. if that was the case there would be more scpd being arrested( by scpd)then one every couple years.
I dont think anyone ever said no cop drinks or drives drunk. I think the issue is the noncops posting repeatedly that it is a common everyday occurance, as opposed to an freak happening. The logic being if bowen did it everyone did.

[Unregisteredholdonsonny]

The main point here is that you are fudging from your 20 days a month crap. Lets throw in you 27vd and 5(6) pl days and we have 32 or so, throw in at least 3 sdays and you have 36 divided by 12 brings it to -3 which makes it just about 16.5 days a month that the average cop works .?

I'm in my 3rd year. My 1st 2 years I didnt have chart days, I was required to work those 10 extra days a year and Had to work an additional 288 hours or 36 days per year. Thats 92 days of extra work over the 1st two years. 292 days a year. thats 24 days a month for 2 years.
you dont get 27 days until year 15. So assuming you use all your pl and vacaction days, plus 2 sick thats 2.3 days a month. So that is still 17.7 days including your paid time off. Including unscheduled days off you do not start averaging less then 20 days with your version of unscheduled days off useage until year 8 or 9.

[youstilllose]

The main point here is that you are fudging from your 20 days a month crap. Lets throw in you 27vd and 5(6) pl days and we have 32 or so, throw in at least 3 sdays and you have 36 divided by 12 brings it to -3 which makes it just about 16.5 days a month that the average cop works . Your argument would be more credible if you just were honest, along with the crap that cops don't drive drunk or corruption doesn't exist or we don't have any fck ups in the pd or that we are the best that suffolk has to offer and all the rest of your arrogant arguments. Cops are selected from the mainstream in society and have all the problems associated with the rest of us human beings. So I guess my exxagerated fantasy of 16.5 days per month is not so exxagerated. What kind of spin are you going to throw next?

EXCEPT...........
If you are going to include my scheduled vacation time, I'm going to include my overtime worked 300 hours a year average equals roughly 37.5 days....so even if I had 27 vacation days( i dont) used 5 pl days( i do) and 3 sick days(I dont) for 36 days, i still worked 1.5 more days

[chastity]

Has the PD released the names of the other officers who were drinking with Bowen on the night he killed himself?

Sonny and Cher

[Unregistered210Comm]

Sgt Raff & all his friends.

[Unregistereddecon]

Sgt Raff & all his friends.

Raff was Sunday night.

[Unregistered/duherer]

You dont get 27 vacation days until year 15. You get 20. No one I know uses all their vacation time until they've maxed out their vacation bank.
So even there you are wrong.
We are discussing days of work. We are obligated to work 20 days a month. If we work less we are giving our days in the bank up same as any other dept.
Here is what happened. You thought you knew what you were talking about, as always. You didnt. You always claim scpd works "teachers schedule" and posted as such. So now, 3 weeks later you are including NONSCHEDULED days off, because you lost the discussion.
the rest of what you've posted has not been part of this discussion, but its an exxageration(go figure...lol) of many arguments in the past.
Cops are chosen from society, but not randomly. For starters a conviction of a misdemeanor you are disqualified. If you are charged with a misdemeanor and pled out, disqualified. 25k people a year are charged with a misdemeanor in suffolk, 6k charged with felonies. And these people are most certainly part of the mainstream. Next, no drug use within XX years. Drug tests, credit check, pysche, wunderlic test, and physical test. Of the 15k eligible applicants from mainstream society more then 1/2 are dqed by these tests.
you have to lead a pretty clean life to get through.
you say corruption, you mean widescale, rampant crime by police? Because that is what corruption is. if that was the case there would be more scpd being arrested( by scpd)then one every couple years.
I dont think anyone ever said no cop drinks or drives drunk. I think the issue is the noncops posting repeatedly that it is a common everyday occurance, as opposed to an freak happening. The logic being if bowen did it everyone did.

OK. Lets take the 20 vd for those under 15 years, add 10 cds, 5 pl and 3 sdays, comes to 38 days off divided by 12, comes to 16.8 days per month you work; still not the 20 you stated before.
I never stated "teachers schedule" thats 183 days a year. The ncpd works that chart.
There are over 1.5 million people in Suffolk and you are talking about 31 thou. There you go spinning again.
I said corruption, never even insinuated "widespread" those were you words. See how defensive you are.
And yes, there were cops who said cops don't drink and drive and they observe traffic laws more than the average citizen which is another spin. When you know you won't get a ticket there is no reason to obey the law.
And it is your convoluted logic that says "if bowen did it everyone did". Do you see what i mean about being arrogant. Even your union, the epitome of arrogance, won't go for a simple payroll lag that won't cost a cop a single dime, but actually will make money on it.

[getaclue..........]

OK. Lets take the 20 vd for those under 15 years, add 10 cds, 5 pl and 3 sdays, comes to 38 days off divided by 12, comes to 16.8 days per month you work; still not the 20 you stated before.
I never stated "teachers schedule" thats 183 days a year. The ncpd works that chart.
There are over 1.5 million people in Suffolk and you are talking about 31 thou. There you go spinning again.
I said corruption, never even insinuated "widespread" those were you words. See how defensive you are.
And yes, there were cops who said cops don't drink and drive and they observe traffic laws more than the average citizen which is another spin. When you know you won't get a ticket there is no reason to obey the law.
And it is your convoluted logic that says "if bowen did it everyone did". Do you see what i mean about being arrogant. Even your union, the epitome of arrogance, won't go for a simple payroll lag that won't cost a cop a single dime, but actually will make money on it.

not agreeing to a lag isn't about the money. it's making a point. levy has to understand that being a bully during negotiating is not going to get a positive response. arrogance is displayed by both sides, but levy has shown his true colors many times with all the other unions, and it's eating him up that he can't bully the pba. he just won't sign off on a simple agreement,that says the pba does not want more, just don't TAKE anymore than you have steve.

[Unregistered abp]

not agreeing to a lag isn't about the money. it's making a point. levy has to understand that being a bully during negotiating is not going to get a positive response. arrogance is displayed by both sides, but levy has shown his true colors many times with all the other unions, and it's eating him up that he can't bully the pba. he just won't sign off on a simple agreement,that says the pba does not want more, just don't TAKE anymore than you have steve.

What I am about to say is strictly off the record. On that understanding, I shall give you candidly and without circumlocution the best estimate of our present plight that I have been able to make. Before I launch into my main topic, I want to make a few matters crystal clear: 1) I, for one, contend that my bromides regarding jaded freeloaders, while far from complete, will fight the good fight, and 2) as a result of that, no one today believes that all any child needs is a big dose of television every day. Now that you know where I stand on those issues, I can safely say that SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime should think about how its contrivances lead the worst types of goofy publishers of hate literature I've ever seen to prepare the ground for an ever-more vicious and brutal campaign of terror. If SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime doesn't want to think that hard, perhaps it should just keep quiet. Unless SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime provides unequivocal evidence to the contrary, I will continue to suspect that it is humorless and more than lame-brained to believe that we should be grateful for the precious freedom to be robbed and kicked in the face by such a noble creature as it. The sooner it comes to grips with that reality, the better for all of us. I claim that SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime truly believes that violence and prejudice are funny. It is just such money-grubbing, mean-spirited megalomania, insecure egoism, and intellectual aberrancy that stirs SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime to hijack the word "pseudoparenchymatous" and use it to impale us on the pike of vandalism.

[Achilles]

And yes, there were cops who said cops don't drink and drive and they observe traffic laws more than the average citizen which is another spin. When you know you won't get a ticket there is no reason to obey the law.


Maybe, just maybe the countless accident victims I have pulled from the twisted wreckage has had an infuence how I drive. Maybe I don't want to spend the rest of my life in a wheel chair. Maybe I don't want to leave my kids fatherless and my wife a widow. Maybe I don't want to spend the rest of my life living with the knowledge that I caused those things to someone else. Maybe that's why I don't drive the way the rest of society does. Maybe that's why cops don't behave the way the rest of you savages do on the roads. Go look up accident statistics by profession. You'll find that cops have the LOWEST rate of accidents and tickets. Doctors and lawyers are on top. Logic would dictate that the group with the lowest accident rate is the group with the safest driving habits. You can take your agenda and prejudicial assumptions and shove them up your ass, douche bag.

[Unregistereduhh////]

OK. Lets take the 20 vd for those under 15 years, add 10 cds, 5 pl and 3 sdays, comes to 38 days off divided by 12, comes to 16.8 days per month you work; still not the 20 you stated before.
I never stated "teachers schedule" thats 183 days a year. The ncpd works that chart.
There are over 1.5 million people in Suffolk and you are talking about 31 thou. There you go spinning again.
I said corruption, never even insinuated "widespread" those were you words. See how defensive you are.
And yes, there were cops who said cops don't drink and drive and they observe traffic laws more than the average citizen which is another spin. When you know you won't get a ticket there is no reason to obey the law.
And it is your convoluted logic that says "if bowen did it everyone did". Do you see what i mean about being arrogant. Even your union, the epitome of arrogance, won't go for a simple payroll lag that won't cost a cop a single dime, but actually will make money on it.

last year I worked 340 hours of overtime, this year I have 290ish....close to the same as last at this time. Divide 340/8 (hours) thats 42.5 days of work extra I've worked.
I'm still over your 38.
Btw for the first 2 years you dont get 10 chart days. You work 300ish extra hours. In the academy you work 24 extra days.
Another problem with your math. The average work month has 20.5 days For 246. subtract the 38 days you have 208 days divide by 12 you have 17.3.
Of course No one takes a full 20 vacation days off until their retirement bank is full. Most take 3 weeks for a total of 15 days, or by combining their chart days with vacation days take 4 but only use 16. and bank the rest.
As far as the rest, lets be honest. you dont become a suffolk cop if you committed crimes, have bad credit, have bad driving history, domestics, attempted suicide, failed the numerous drug, physical and pysche tests, etc. Yes, an occasional bad apple gets through and is dealt with. But more dont then do.
As far as not getting a ticket, yes you are right. But let me tell you it is embarrassing to get stopped by your coworker because your tailight is out. It is wrong and disrespectful to break the law and waste the time of the officer stopping you. I'm sorry i could argue this all day, and its a no win because you will believe what you want.
Corruption...suffolk has a case every few years of a cop committing a crime. There are few stories i know of that put scpd as pimps, drug dealers, etc.
Sorry. I dont see corruption.

[Unregistereduuuhh///]

I'm in my 3rd year. My 1st 2 years I didnt have chart days, I was required to work those 10 extra days a year and Had to work an additional 288 hours or 36 days per year. Thats 92 days of extra work over the 1st two years. 292 days a year. thats 24 days a month for 2 years.
you dont get 27 days until year 15. So assuming you use all your pl and vacaction days, plus 2 sick thats 2.3 days a month. So that is still 17.7 days including your paid time off. Including unscheduled days off you do not start averaging less then 20 days with your version of unscheduled days off useage until year 8 or 9.

bump

[Unregistereduhh///]

EXCEPT...........
If you are going to include my scheduled vacation time, I'm going to include my overtime worked 300 hours a year average equals roughly 37.5 days....so even if I had 27 vacation days( i dont) used 5 pl days( i do) and 3 sick days(I dont) for 36 days, i still worked 1.5 more days

bump

[Unregistereduhhh///]

I said corruption, never even insinuated "widespread" those were you words.

I aksed you if you meant widespread corruption. A few cases of bad cops doesnt equal corruption.

[Unregisterednotfacts]

OK. Lets take the 20 vd for those under 15 years, add 10 cds, 5 pl and 3 sdays, comes to 38 days off divided by 12, comes to 16.8 days per month you work; still not the 20 you stated before.
.
Our schedule calls for us to work 19+ days a month. I work in a command where I cant use sick time. My wife works steady mids, she gets no letter days and has to work 3 extra days over her schedule
the rest of the time we take off is our discretion and comes from banked hours that can be saved for retirement. We are buying those days off.
30 days has sept, april june and nov...all the rest(7) have 31. except feb which has 28
4 months with 20 days of work
7 months with 21 days.
1 month 19 days
246 days. minus 10 chart days, 20 vacation days, 5, 3 pl, sick days
208.
Divide 208 by 12 =17.3 NOT 16.8
The rest of what i could say has been posted already. 300 hours of o/t is more then obtainable, and covers the 38 days 28 that we buy.
New guys work almost 300 days a year as payback. 40-50 over what we do.
It takes years for them to break even.

[The Hornet]

Our schedule calls for us to work 19+ days a month. I work in a command where I cant use sick time. My wife works steady mids, she gets no letter days and has to work 3 extra days over her schedule
the rest of the time we take off is our discretion and comes from banked hours that can be saved for retirement. We are buying those days off.
30 days has sept, april june and nov...all the rest(7) have 31. except feb which has 28
4 months with 20 days of work
7 months with 21 days.
1 month 19 days
246 days. minus 10 chart days, 20 vacation days, 5, 3 pl, sick days
208.
Divide 208 by 12 =17.3 NOT 16.8
The rest of what i could say has been posted already. 300 hours of o/t is more then obtainable, and covers the 38 days 28 that we buy.
New guys work almost 300 days a year as payback. 40-50 over what we do.
It takes years for them to break even.

Why do I get the feeling you know more about contracts and benefits than you do about performing police work?

[whatdoyouknow?]

Why do I get the feeling you know more about contracts and benefits than you do about performing police work?

Who cares about your feelings?
What is being stated is common knowledge. A rookie with zero collars could tell you the same, or a homicide detective.

[whatdoyouknow?]

I said corruption, never even insinuated "widespread" those were you words. .

you said corruption, but why? It insinuates more then an occasional moron arrested for scamming insurance or stalking his ex. It insinuates money laundering, stealing proceeds from raids, drugs etc, and the dept looking the other way or takes part.
But that is simple opinion, speculation mixed in with a little personal agenda.

[whatdoyouknow?]

And yes, there were cops who said cops don't drink and drive and they observe traffic laws more than the average citizen which is another spin. When you know you won't get a ticket there is no reason to obey the law.


Right there are cops who said cops(scpd only) dont drive drunk, and those who do are the exception rather then the rule.
Are you claiming otherwise and is your claim anything other then personal opinion? Because its a waste of time to argue opinion with someone like you that has an obvious agenda here.

[Untypical]

Why do I get the feeling you know more about contracts and benefits than you do about performing police work?

As usual, the cops posts facts, the troll cop basher wanna be posts about his "feelings"

[Untypical]

Why do I get the feeling you know more about contracts and benefits than you do about performing police work?

As usual, any discussion involving the use of simple facts, like how many days in a month a cop actually works, there is always one lurker, who has absolutely nothing better to do then try to make the cop seem like he is a slug.
The post you quote moron has not one word about contracts or benefits.
Unless you are going to claim that knowing what or how many days you work falls under either category.
As usual we didnt start this. someone else claimed scpd is scheduled to work 16.6 days a month. And as usual they are being proven wrong, and as usual a secondary troll has some wiseass remark to make.

[The Hornet]

you said corruption, but why? It insinuates more then an occasional moron arrested for scamming insurance or stalking his ex. It insinuates money laundering, stealing proceeds from raids, drugs etc, and the dept looking the other way or takes part.
But that is simple opinion, speculation mixed in with a little personal agenda.

Either intentionally or unintentionally you overlooked the most prevalent and pervasive form of police corruption.

Every business day it takes place in traffic court right up to supreme court.

[Unregisteredyes]

As usual, any discussion involving the use of simple facts, like how many days in a month a cop actually works, there is always one lurker, who has absolutely nothing better to do then try to make the cop seem like he is a slug.
The post you quote moron has not one word about contracts or benefits.
Unless you are going to claim that knowing what or how many days you work falls under either category.
As usual we didnt start this. someone else claimed scpd is scheduled to work 16.6 days a month. And as usual they are being proven wrong, and as usual a secondary troll has some wiseass remark to make.

Exactly. When a poster is dismissed as a troll, and gets all indignant, and wonders why, this is perfect example.

[Unregisterednotfacts]

Why do I get the feeling you know more about contracts and benefits than you do about performing police work?

Hey ass, did you even read my post? Or did you just see a chance to get your shot of the day in? Did you read the part that stated I' m in a command where I cannot use sick days? If I use a sick day I'm gone, back to patrol.
I work in a unit that expects an arrest a day. I average a felony arrest a week.
But you come along without a clue, just a big chip on your shoulder. You see your chance to even it up a little so you take your shot, typical internet bully.
Guys like you we call toy poodles, whole lotta bark, but nothing else.

[whatanazzhole]

Why do I get the feeling you know more about contracts and benefits than you do about performing police work?

because he can add, subtract and divide numbers correctly?

[little man big mouth]

bully.
Guys like you we call toy poodles, whole lotta bark, but nothing else.

poodle is too much credit. more like a chihuahua

[Unregistered/horny]

Hey ass, did you even read my post? Or did you just see a chance to get your shot of the day in? Did you read the part that stated I' m in a command where I cannot use sick days? If I use a sick day I'm gone, back to patrol.
I work in a unit that expects an arrest a day. I average a felony arrest a week.
But you come along without a clue, just a big chip on your shoulder. You see your chance to even it up a little so you take your shot, typical internet bully.
Guys like you we call toy poodles, whole lotta bark, but nothing else.

Listen you moron, The Hornet is a nassau cop. he's got some credibility, alot more than you do. I hope you don't catch the swine flu this season, or back to patrol

[Unregisteredwtf?]

Why do I get the feeling you know more about contracts and benefits than you do about performing police work?

loser he quoted the "30 days has September....." Kindergarten rhyme, and you are equating that to knowledge of contracts and benefits?

[hornet is a quiff]

Listen you moron, The Hornet is a nassau cop. he's got some credibility, alot more than you do. I hope you don't catch the swine flu this season, or back to patrol

Stfu, who asked you?

[Unregistered/liar/]

As usual, any discussion involving the use of simple facts, like how many days in a month a cop actually works, there is always one lurker, who has absolutely nothing better to do then try to make the cop seem like he is a slug.
The post you quote moron has not one word about contracts or benefits.
Unless you are going to claim that knowing what or how many days you work falls under either category.
As usual we didnt start this. someone else claimed scpd is scheduled to work 16.6 days a month. And as usual they are being proven wrong, and as usual a secondary troll has some wiseass remark to make.

Actually you didn't prove anybody wrong. You forgot about the cops with 15 years who get 27 vd and that my asshole friend comes out to 16.8 days a month. And don't forget that it only takes 5 years to make top pay.

[who cares???????]

Listen you moron, The Hornet is a nassau cop. he's got some credibility, alot more than you do. I hope you don't catch the swine flu this season, or back to patrol

The hornet is most certainly a cop, just ask him next time he poses...err posts here.
Its quite credible.

[who cares??????]

And don't forget that it only takes 5 years to make top pay.

And? How is that an issue?

[Unregistered/icare]

The hornet is most certainly a cop, just ask him next time he poses...err posts here.
Its quite credible.

Go back over the posts concerning the NCPD and you will see that he is most certainly a nassau cop.

[ifyourhorny]

Listen you moron, The Hornet is a nassau cop. he's got some credibility, alot more than you do. I hope you don't catch the swine flu this season, or back to patrol

Listen if you love the hornet so much, go rent a room and fellate him.

[Unregistered//0000]

And? How is that an issue?

I noticed you didn't refute the 16.8 days a month. The 5 years was just a side issue to put the full picture of just how overpaid and underworked you are; and those are not my words but old stevie and all the ce's before him.

[Unregisteredwhocares]

Go back over the posts concerning the NCPD and you will see that he is most certainly a nassau cop.

dont care, now stfu

[Unregistered/..,,,o]

Listen if you love the hornet so much, go rent a room and fellate him.

It must really bother you do have another cop tell you your full of crap, especially a ncpd cop.

[dont care.....]

I noticed you didn't refute the 16.8 days a month. The 5 years was just a side issue to put the full picture of just how overpaid and underworked you are; and those are not my words but old stevie and all the ce's before him.

I dont have to refute it.
It was done already. You are adding days I buy with my stored accrued time.
I added my accrued overtime to that.
something mentioned 4-5 times and you've ignored.Add those days and still more then 20 days a month

[Unregisteredwtf???]

It must really bother you do have another cop tell you your full of crap, especially a ncpd cop.

in english please

[whocares??????????]

It must really bother you do have another cop tell you your full of crap, especially a ncpd cop.

Because you claim him/her/you/them to be cops doesnt make it so.
sorry

[\\\\\\\\\ll//////////]

It must really bother you do have another cop tell you your full of crap, especially a ncpd cop.

it really must bother you that no one believes you here.

[dont care stfu]

I noticed you didn't refute the 16.8 days a month. The 5 years was just a side issue to put the full picture of just how overpaid and underworked you are; and those are not my words but old stevie and all the ce's before him.

about 10 different posts have refuted the 16.8 days, so why repeat it?
The rest are opinions of losers, you levy and dormer, so why waste the time.

[you/lose/again/moron]

I noticed you didn't refute the 16.8 days a month.

Its been done already. The chart calls for scpd patrol two tour to work 19.5 days a month. Anything less you are buying that day off from your stored time. You have stored sick, vacation, personal leave and comp time... overtime and vacation.
Once you included the sick, pl, and vacation, we included the overtime.
Last year I worked 400ish hours overtime(50 days equiv) took 15 vacation days off, 5 pl and 2 sick.Add my 10 chart days thats 32. End product was 262 days worked with a 22 day a month average.
Prove me wrong

[Unregistered/opiuy]

Because you claim him/her/you/them to be cops doesnt make it so.
sorry

Check out the NCPD Test post 21
Check out the site on Mineola in the VILLAGES site. Posts 53, 59 61, 65 and others to numerous to post.
I,m not the Hornet or nor profess to be. He is a Nassau cop who criticized the scpd and you don't like being criticized by anybody especially another cop.

[howabout this]

Check out the NCPD Test post 21
Check out the site on Mineola in the VILLAGES site. Posts 53, 59 61, 65 and others to numerous to post.
I,m not the Hornet or nor profess to be. He is a Nassau cop who criticized the scpd and you don't like being criticized by anybody especially another cop.

too lazy, you want to prove he claims to be a cop, you post it here.
honestly unless he posts his retirement #, pid, badge and the name of his 1st born to me he still is a anon poster.
As far as criticism goes, what you dont understand, when you are where we are, thats all you get. Cop, troll, president of usa, Osama bin Laden, its his opinion. He is entitled to it, and I'm entitled to disagree

[whocares??????????]

Its been done already. The chart calls for scpd patrol two tour to work 19.5 days a month. Anything less you are buying that day off from your stored time. You have stored sick, vacation, personal leave and comp time... overtime and vacation.
Once you included the sick, pl, and vacation, we included the overtime.
Last year I worked 400ish hours overtime(50 days equiv) took 15 vacation days off, 5 pl and 2 sick.Add my 10 chart days thats 32. End product was 262 days worked with a 22 day a month average.
Prove me wrong

hes ignoring you and concentrating on arguing about his idol the hornet

[hornetworship]

Check out the NCPD Test post 21
Check out the site on Mineola in the VILLAGES site. Posts 53, 59 61, 65 and others to numerous to post.
I,m not the Hornet or nor profess to be. He is a Nassau cop who criticized the scpd and you don't like being criticized by anybody especially another cop.

funny how he has the hornet's post memorized

[Unregistered/yeajj]

Its been done already. The chart calls for scpd patrol two tour to work 19.5 days a month. Anything less you are buying that day off from your stored time. You have stored sick, vacation, personal leave and comp time... overtime and vacation.
Once you included the sick, pl, and vacation, we included the overtime.
Last year I worked 400ish hours overtime(50 days equiv) took 15 vacation days off, 5 pl and 2 sick.Add my 10 chart days thats 32. End product was 262 days worked with a 22 day a month average.
Prove me wrong

And you also made 175 thou. Since when is ot included in allowable days off. Now you're going off the deep end. What about the guy who doesn't work ot?

[Unregistered/bs/bs]

Check out the NCPD Test post 21
Check out the site on Mineola in the VILLAGES site. Posts 53, 59 61, 65 and others to numerous to post.
I,m not the Hornet or nor profess to be. He is a Nassau cop who criticized the scpd and you don't like being criticized by anybody especially another cop.

if there are openings in an academy, any one will do. MTA can use either county, or the state, or the city. Old Westbury, a few years back, sent two to Westchester to get certified...

Doesnt say he is a cop. Doesnt provide any info that would nt be available to the public. All you have to do is read the chief, online no less to know where what class went

[Unregistered/oiuy]

funny how he has the hornet's post memorized

When you can't refute the facts, you postulate. Typical cop.

[Unregisteredhmmmm]

When you can't refute the facts, you postulate. Typical cop.

what facts were presented?

[Unregisteredeep do-do]

And you also made 175 thou. Since when is ot included in allowable days off. Now you're going off the deep end. What about the guy who doesn't work ot?

400 hours overtime is 135k. not 175k.
Overtime is stored in comp time with holiday hours, up to 150 hours and can be used anytime you want to take a day off, unlike the restrictions on vacation days, p.l. days or sick time. After you go lower then 150 you can replenish the bank.

[Unregistered/wowxxx]

Doesnt say he is a cop. Doesnt provide any info that would nt be available to the public. All you have to do is read the chief, online no less to know where what class went

Read the other posts, idiot. Is it that difficult for you to accept the criticism of another cop? Are you that defensive? Hate to meet you on patrol. How the hell did you guys pass the psych exam.

[Unregistered/loser!!!]

What about the guy who doesn't work ot?

What about the guy who banks all his hours?

[Unregisteredsorry////]

Read the other posts, idiot. Is it that difficult for you to accept the criticism of another cop? Are you that defensive? Hate to meet you on patrol. How the hell did you guys pass the psych exam.

Just because you cannot prove your point doesnt make anyone defensive...other then you perhaps.
You made a statement, you were asked for further info. What you provided is lacking...

[Unregistered/moron]

And you also made 175 thou. Since when is ot included in allowable days off. Now you're going off the deep end. What about the guy who doesn't work ot?

cmon we've been thru this 5k per 100 hours. 400 hours would be 135ish. 175 would be 1200 hours overtime

[Unregistered/moron]

And you also made 175 thou. Since when is ot included in allowable days off. Now you're going off the deep end. What about the guy who doesn't work ot?

you have a bank of hours
sick
personal leave that convert to 1/2 a sick day after a year
vacation
overtime
You want off you have to "buy" your day off.
You can use sick, pl, vacation or overtime.

[Unregistered/transparent]

Read the other posts, idiot. Is it that difficult for you to accept the criticism of another cop? Are you that defensive? Hate to meet you on patrol. How the hell did you guys pass the psych exam.

His opinion isnt an issue. your statement that he is a cop is the issue. You stated it and was asked for proof.
now you are stumbling around unable to do so. So you are looking for a distraction via the personal insults

[Unregisterednotfacts]

And you also made 175 thou. Since when is ot included in allowable days off. Now you're going off the deep end. What about the guy who doesn't work ot?

point by point.

1. 175 is not 400 hours overtime. 135 give or take is
2. Always. the county would much rather give you a day off then pay you for 8 hours. The bank of storable days used to be larger.
3. Why the deep end? Why cant it just be you picked another fight about a topic you dont know diddly about? YOU added the various days off to try and salvage this one. Well if you added pl. sick and vacation days, what gives you the right to leave off comp time...ie accrued overtime and vacation hours? As always you pick the topic, you start the argument and we finish it.
4. There are many forms of overtime. you are discussing manpower shortage... You may not sign up for it.
But if you get a priority call at 10 minutes to relief, you cannot ignore it. If you are stuck on a bad call( or good depending on your pov) no one is sending you home. Likewise a bag of crap arrest, road closure, committal death investigation..
You have court, You cant tell the da to schedule everything around your convience. Civil court. I was held in civil court for a month as a defendant made over 100 hours overtime.

[Unregistered/lame]

When you can't refute the facts, you postulate. Typical cop.

What facts were given to be refuted? Typical troll.
Yes he certainly did post on those sites, I'm certain. But your claim he is a ncpd cop has not been substantiated.
I havent read anything from him here that says he is a cop. and even if he did I would tend not to believe, as many, many posters have claimed many things, and been proven to have lied.
and as far as the new spin, that his comments/cricitism hurts, that we cant take any criticism, my friend look around here.
There are 100s of threads devoted to criticizing scpd. Hell, a few dozen dedicated to making fun of a cop who was burned alive. hohum, its rough when you are on the top.

[Unregistered/curiousss]

funny how he has the hornet's post memorized

it is extremely odd how during a argument this guy not only posts defending this hornet personna, but has on hand 4-5 topics the guy posted on and the post numbers, during the course of the argument.
Its a bit strange. I just dont see posters who are sooo familiar with other posters replies, to the point they can provide the prior posts and the posters allegded pedigree

[thehornet//thebacksplash]

Its a bit strange. I just dont see posters who are sooo familiar with other posters replies,

unless the poster is one in the same ...

[Unregisterednodice]

Check out the NCPD Test post 21
Check out the site on Mineola in the VILLAGES site. Posts 53, 59 61, 65 and others to numerous to post.
I,m not the Hornet or nor profess to be. He is a Nassau cop who criticized the scpd and you don't like being criticized by anybody especially another cop.

I've read the posts, none of them state he is a ncpd. None are anything special that would lead me to believe he is a cop.
and it most certainly is curious why/ how you and he are connected.

[thingsthatmakeugohmmm]

Check out the NCPD Test post 21
Check out the site on Mineola in the VILLAGES site. Posts 53, 59 61, 65 and others to numerous to post.
I,m not the Hornet or nor profess to be. He is a Nassau cop who criticized the scpd and you don't like being criticized by anybody especially another cop.

odd how you can pull quotes from a thread from 3 years ago out of your ass,3/07/2006so what you're telling me is tht you have no problem if the new station opens up across the street from you, or next door to you?

[Unregistered/killo]

I've read the posts, none of them state he is a ncpd. None are anything special that would lead me to believe he is a cop.
and it most certainly is curious why/ how you and he are connected.

To all you idiotic cops out there. the Hornet is registered with the site admin- not your typical troll I would say.
Read all of his posts on the Village site. He was arguing against the village of Mineola to start their own pd among other issues that arose from that initiative that started with the village mayor. In one of his many posts he inadvertently stated he patrolled in the 3 pct which encompasses Mineola. I know many of you out there are rookies or wannabes, but you must have studied
"probable cause" while in the academy.
I know that when another cop criticizes you, you get scared, that maybe Stevie, the county legislature and the vast majority of taxpayers are right when they say you are overpaid and underworked, but facts are facts, no matter how unpleasing they are.

[probable/cause/hahahaha]

To all you idiotic cops out there. the Hornet is registered with the site admin- not your typical troll I would say.
Read all of his posts on the Village site. He was arguing against the village of Mineola to start their own pd among other issues that arose from that initiative that started with the village mayor. In one of his many posts he inadvertently stated he patrolled in the 3 pct which encompasses Mineola. I know many of you out there are rookies or wannabes, but you must have studied
"probable cause" while in the academy.
I know that when another cop criticizes you, you get scared, that maybe Stevie, the county legislature and the vast majority of taxpayers are right when they say you are overpaid and underworked, but facts are facts, no matter how unpleasing they are.

hornet registered a username. Back in the day everyone registered a username.
Now you are saying that you guessed that he is a cop. And you are using that to say we are scared.
And of course the distraction insult....oh no overworked and underpaid....

[clock///killa//tic/toc]

Stevie, the county legislature and the vast majority of taxpayers are right when they say you are overpaid and underworked, but facts are facts, no matter how unpleasing they are.

I know this, today you've managed to post at least 5-10 times.
If there was an expert on overpaid and underworked, its you.

[clock//killa/tic//toc]

To all you idiotic cops out there. the Hornet is registered with the site admin- not your typical troll I would say.
Read all of his posts on the Village site. He was arguing against the village of Mineola to start their own pd among other issues that arose from that initiative that started with the village mayor. In one of his many posts he inadvertently stated he patrolled in the 3 pct which encompasses Mineola. I know many of you out there are rookies or wannabes, but you must have studied
"probable cause" while in the academy.
I.

So please instead of providing us with 4 posts where he didnt state he was a cop, provide us with the ones where he did.
And in my 300 plus arrests, i've never, ever delevoped probable cause by reading a post on a inernet blog that stated "I AM _____"

[Unregisteredquiff]

And of course the distraction insult....oh no overworked and underpaid....

Are you kidding me?
Distraction? This guy is desparate to get away from talking about days worked and how he can remember every post ever posted by this "other" clown

[wallstreet]

To all you idiotic cops out there. the Hornet is registered with the site admin- not your typical troll I would say.
Read all of his posts on the Village site. He was arguing against the village of Mineola to start their own pd among other issues that arose from that initiative that started with the village mayor. In one of his many posts he inadvertently stated he patrolled in the 3 pct which encompasses Mineola. I know many of you out there are rookies or wannabes, but you must have studied
"probable cause" while in the academy.
I know that when another cop criticizes you, you get scared, that maybe Stevie, the county legislature and the vast majority of taxpayers are right when they say you are overpaid and underworked, but facts are facts, no matter how unpleasing they are.

hello im wallstreet, and I'm registered with the site admin. I'm not your typical troll see.
Oh i've patrolled in 3 pcts which encompass Mineola...ohh how did i inadvertantly slip that out,,,,

[Unregistered/killo]

So please instead of providing us with 4 posts where he didnt state he was a cop, provide us with the ones where he did.
And in my 300 plus arrests, i've never, ever delevoped probable cause by reading a post on a inernet blog that stated "I AM _____"

Go to the site SUOZZI PLACING POLICE AND PUBLIC AT RISK, scroll down to post 397, and you will see that he says he is a cop. There's your probable cause asshole

[Unregistered//tellme]

To all you idiotic cops out there. the Hornet is registered with the site admin- not your typical troll I would say.
Read all of his posts on the Village site. He was arguing against the village of Mineola to start their own pd among other issues that arose from that initiative that started with the village mayor. In one of his many posts he inadvertently stated he patrolled in the 3 pct which encompasses Mineola. I know many of you out there are rookies or wannabes, but you must have studied
"probable cause" while in the academy.
I know that when another cop criticizes you, you get scared, that maybe Stevie, the county legislature and the vast majority of taxpayers are right when they say you are overpaid and underworked, but facts are facts, no matter how unpleasing they are.

What or whom other personnas posting here have you memorized by thread, topic and post?

[im the prez///]

Go to the site SUOZZI PLACING POLICE AND PUBLIC AT RISK, scroll down to post 397, and you will see that he says he is a cop. There's your probable cause asshole

post it. You have all day, its not like you do anything valuable
and you have to be gullable enough to believe someone posting here at face value

[Unregistered//oddball]

Go to the site SUOZZI PLACING POLICE AND PUBLIC AT RISK, scroll down to post 397, and you will see that he says he is a cop. There's your probable cause asshole

within 10 minutes this guy can come back with a thread and post number for this supposed other poster the hornet.
Anyone else find this odd?
and why is he defending this supposed other guy so hard?

[snort/snort]

hello im wallstreet, and I'm registered with the site admin. I'm not your typical troll see.
Oh i've patrolled in 3 pcts which encompass Mineola...ohh how did i inadvertantly slip that out,,,,

oh I have probable cause to believe you

[Unregisteredgaveup]

Go to the site SUOZZI PLACING POLICE AND PUBLIC AT RISK, scroll down to post 397, and you will see that he says he is a cop. There's your probable cause asshole

Anyone find it? I've gone back to page 11 on police issues. I'm guessing its police issues, otherwise trolly/ hornet would have specified
Amazing how one could refer us to this thread, and the exact post, without it being a current issue.

[\\\\\\\ll//////////]

Anyone find it? I've gone back to page 11 on police issues. I'm guessing its police issues, otherwise trolly/ hornet would have specified
Amazing how one could refer us to this thread, and the exact post, without it being a current issue.

unless it was your own post and you just looked it up, in your own history

[hey/numnuts/moron/dope]

Go to the site SUOZZI PLACING POLICE AND PUBLIC AT RISK, scroll down to post 397, and you will see that he says he is a cop. There's your probable cause asshole

Do you realize sherlock that there are two hornets?
One thehornet(one word) is a senior member with 100 plus posts?
That is whom you quoted on the Suozzi thread as being a cop.
The other; the hornet, (two words) is the one posting on this thread that has SEVEN total posts. and is a JR member?
And you are really really stupid
here are links to their separate pages;
http://www.thereport.com/vb/member.php?u=21696
http://www.thereport.com/vb/member.php?u=23282

NOW GO DO SOME WORK YOU SLACKER

[lol/lol/lol/lol/lol/lol]

Do you realize sherlock that there are two hornets?
One thehornet(one word) is a senior member with 100 plus posts?
That is whom you quoted on the Suozzi thread as being a cop.
The other; the hornet, (two words) is the one posting on this thread that has SEVEN total posts. and is a JR member?
And you are really really stupid
here are links to their separate pages;
http://www.thereport.com/vb/member.php?u=21696
http://www.thereport.com/vb/member.php?u=23282

NOW GO DO SOME WORK YOU SLACKER

too f'n funny!!!

[/backslpash\/ losa/]

I now have probable cause to believe you are a stupid moron

[sir//]

Go to the site SUOZZI PLACING POLICE AND PUBLIC AT RISK, scroll down to post 397, and you will see that he says he is a cop. There's your probable cause asshole

I now have established probable cause to believe you are a stupid ass.

[Unregistered/moron]

what a fn idiot

[rubitinhisface]

Go to the site SUOZZI PLACING POLICE AND PUBLIC AT RISK, scroll down to post 397, and you will see that he says he is a cop. There's your probable cause asshole

Thats a different hornet.
the hornet
thehornet
you missed that probably cause you are a dipshit
See you tomorrow, and whatever topic you want to get beat up on.

[The Hornet]

This is very disturbing. You boys can't find another thread to argue with your troll friends?

It's sad that a thread about a dead officer turns into flame wars fed by active and retired cops.

[Unregistered111]

This is very disturbing. You boys can't find another thread to argue with your troll friends?

It's sad that a thread about a dead officer turns into flame wars fed by active and retired cops.

Thats the way these threads go, disruptive trolls with their agenda look for anything to argue about. Sooner or later the original topic is long lost.

[Unregisteredteehee]

This is very disturbing. You boys can't find another thread to argue with your troll friends?

It's sad that a thread about a dead officer turns into flame wars fed by active and retired cops.

how about 1 predictably incorrect troll, and a bunch of cops laughing their asses off.

[trollapalooza]

This is very disturbing. You boys can't find another thread to argue with your troll friends?

It's sad that a thread about a dead officer turns into flame wars fed by active and retired cops.

You are kidding right? A thread where trolls like yourself are lined up to take their shots at scpd, and a dead cop?
This is just as fitting as the next thread started for the same thing.
Just to show the difference between us and you, there is a man who died in my hood over the winter, he was a chronic issue for the local sector guys. He left behind a wife and kids. He died due to a drug overdose, found with needle in arm and a smile on his face. He was active in some community functions, and had a few friends. After he died they did several fundraisers for his family, naming carnivals after him and so forth.. and told everyone he died of a heart attack in his 30s.
I knew otherwise, and while I never took part in his postmortem worship, I never told anyone differently, even those smart enough to realize it was a fishy story.
This guy was a drug addict, drove illegally since early 1990s and had been written over 150 tickets in suffolk county. More then ten arrests for sale, posession, patronizing, and weapons. But hes gone. Why say anything when it would only hurt the poor kids who cannot pick their parents?
I dont know bowen, but I doubt he was the blight on society this guy was. Yup, he drove drunk, and he paid the ultimate price. I guess if I had the issues the trolls here do, I would see this as the ultimate chance to bash the snot out of scpd. Hold them responsible for the actions of one guy, one dead guy that they cannot answer for.

[thehornet.]

Do you realize sherlock that there are two hornets?
One thehornet(one word) is a senior member with 100 plus posts?
That is whom you quoted on the Suozzi thread as being a cop.
The other; the hornet, (two words) is the one posting on this thread that has SEVEN total posts. and is a JR member?
And you are really really stupid
here are links to their separate pages;
http://www.thereport.com/vb/member.php?u=21696
http://www.thereport.com/vb/member.php?u=23282

NOW GO DO SOME WORK YOU SLACKER

You have to wonder how dumb this loser is. Did he really think no one would see the difference between his posed hornet and the real hornet?

[exposed butstillspinning]

This is very disturbing. You boys can't find another thread to argue with your troll friends?

It's sad that a thread about a dead officer turns into flame wars fed by active and retired cops.

yeah it must suck putting all that effort into the whole hornet/ backsplash multi personnas tag team and for it not to last a single day.

[Unregistered/correctcione]

You dont get 27 vacation days until year 15. You get 20. No one I know uses all their vacation time until they've maxed out their vacation bank.
So even there you are wrong.
We are discussing days of work. We are obligated to work 20 days a month. If we work less we are giving our days in the bank up same as any other dept.
Here is what happened. You thought you knew what you were talking about, as always. You didnt. You always claim scpd works "teachers schedule" and posted as such. So now, 3 weeks later you are including NONSCHEDULED days off, because you lost the discussion.
the rest of what you've posted has not been part of this discussion, but its an exxageration(go figure...lol) of many arguments in the past.
Cops are chosen from society, but not randomly. For starters a conviction of a misdemeanor you are disqualified. If you are charged with a misdemeanor and pled out, disqualified. 25k people a year are charged with a misdemeanor in suffolk, 6k charged with felonies. And these people are most certainly part of the mainstream. Next, no drug use within XX years. Drug tests, credit check, pysche, wunderlic test, and physical test. Of the 15k eligible applicants from mainstream society more then 1/2 are dqed by these tests.
you have to lead a pretty clean life to get through.
you say corruption, you mean widescale, rampant crime by police? Because that is what corruption is. if that was the case there would be more scpd being arrested( by scpd)then one every couple years.
I dont think anyone ever said no cop drinks or drives drunk. I think the issue is the noncops posting repeatedly that it is a common everyday occurance, as opposed to an freak happening. The logic being if bowen did it everyone did.

According to your own scpd web site, you get 27 vd after 5 years not 15

[get/a/life]

According to your own scpd web site, you get 27 vd after 5 years not 15

Are you STILL here? you should just get lost

[no shame]

Are you STILL here? you should just get lost

thats the problem with threads like this, you can post as whoever you want, be exposed as a troll, and come back the next day like nothing happened.

[vd/vd/vd/vd]

vd

oh you love your anacronyms

[ha/ha/ha/ha/ha/ha/ha/ha]

According to your own scpd web site, you get 27 vd after 5 years not 15

I'd rebutt you, but i'm afraid you'd turn into your hornet alter ego and be critical of me, you know how scared we are of a "cop" being critical..especially a ncpd

[Unregistered/levyboy]

I'd rebutt you, but i'm afraid you'd turn into your hornet alter ego and be critical of me, you know how scared we are of a "cop" being critical..especially a ncpd

My my, how indignant you cops get when caught lying about how much time you have off. Maybe Levy is right about you. To much time off.

[Achilles]

My my, how indignant you cops get when caught lying about how much time you have off. Maybe Levy is right about you. To much time off.

Scheduled to work 232-234 days per year. Works out to 19.4 days per month. 2 less days per month than the typical Monday-Friday worker. Big friggin' deal.

[levyknows]

Are we Parseing words?
Scheduled to work as opposed to Actually worked after/minus Vacation days, sick days, Chart days off, X days Off, Personel days off.
Don't even count BooBoo 207c days taken for a minor injury.
How dare you compare yourself to private sector workers.
You actually work less days than a teacher.
Stop crying already

[Unregisteredtoobad]

Are we Parseing words?
Scheduled to work as opposed to Actually worked after/minus Vacation days, sick days, Chart days off, X days Off, Personel days off.
Don't even count BooBoo 207c days taken for a minor injury.
How dare you compare yourself to private sector workers.
You actually work less days than a teacher.
Stop crying already

Now listen Ben if you could only run fast enough or push yourself off the floor a few times you could have become a cop, but you are a weak little girl and have to suck ass your whole life to get appointed and keep jobs....if you think about it its a sad existance

[Unregirstered]

thats the problem with threads like this, you can post as whoever you want, be exposed as a troll, and come back the next day like nothing happened.

Conversely, the cops on here can hide behind a made up persona's, talk all sorts of shitt and come back the next day and make stupid claims that they won a battle with a friggin troll.

BWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

[vd/vd/vd/vd/vd/vd]

My my, how indignant you cops get when caught lying about how much time you have off. Maybe Levy is right about you. To much time off.

are you kidding me? all you do is lie, you just simply arent worth the time.
remember the last discussion when you were caught lying outright and claimed it wasnt your post?
I believe it was about how many cops work for suffolk, although you are such a frequent flier who knows, it might have been your 150 k gaffe, you have had so many brainiac moments

[the hornet says]

Conversely, the cops on here can hide behind a made up persona's, talk all sorts of shitt and come back the next day and make stupid claims that they won a battle with a friggin troll.

BWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Conversely a troll can lie, pretend to be about 40 different people hiding behind 120 different personnas talk all sorts of shit, and when proven wrong dissapear, swearing this site off for ever only to return in a day or two

[the hornet says]

Are we Parseing words?
Scheduled to work as opposed to Actually worked after/minus Vacation days, sick days, Chart days off, X days Off, Personel days off.
Don't even count BooBoo 207c days taken for a minor injury.
How dare you compare yourself to private sector workers.
You actually work less days than a teacher.
Stop crying already

too complicated for you?
and no, no one is crying but you. You come here looking to get your shots in, and you dont do too well. You must be a frustrated troll.

Wah all you guys make 150k
Wah there are 2800 cops
Wah a ncpd is picking on you
Wah you work16.6 days a month
Wah levy says you are overpaid

[ohhh btw]

Are we Parseing words?
Scheduled to work as opposed to Actually worked after/minus Vacation days, sick days, Chart days off, X days Off, Personel days off.
Don't even count BooBoo 207c days taken for a minor injury.
How dare you compare yourself to private sector workers.
You actually work less days than a teacher.
Stop crying already

its parsing moron, anthoer thing you got wrong

[your/a/joke]

Are we Parseing words?
Scheduled to work as opposed to Actually worked after/minus Vacation days, sick days, Chart days off, X days Off, Personel days off.
Don't even count BooBoo 207c days taken for a minor injury.
How dare you compare yourself to private sector workers.
You actually work less days than a teacher.
Stop crying already

I'm amazed that you can come here on a semidaily basis and bitch and moan about what the cops have, and have the nerve to claim someone other then YOU is crying

[pure bs/bs/bs/bs/bs]

.
Don't even count BooBoo 207c days taken for a minor injury.


So when you get hurt working at your job, you DONT take off? You dont file work/comp?
Ok moron.

[Unregistered/tufftit]

My my, how indignant you cops get when caught lying about how much time you have off. Maybe Levy is right about you. To much time off.

I believe the site is wrong, either way, when you include o/t days worked it is still more then you claim.
Stop crying and take the test, or claim to have a better job like every other troll.
Either way deal with it

[Unregistered/awed]

Are we Parseing words?
Scheduled to work as opposed to Actually worked after/minus Vacation days, sick days, Chart days off, X days Off, Personel days off.
Don't even count BooBoo 207c days taken for a minor injury.
How dare you compare yourself to private sector workers.
You actually work less days than a teacher.
Stop crying already

Every time i read a post like this, I am in awe.
If you spent 1/2 the time doing your own job, instead of crying your eyes out here, maybe you would have a life.

[too bad whiny]

And you also made 175 thou. Since when is ot included in allowable days off. Now you're going off the deep end.

you are about 40k off.
Why because it ruins your argument? Tell me this, because you dont know something, does that make it false? Negative.
You chose to include our days off, that we buy back from the county. Well overtime is stored and can be used at any time. There is no restrictions, unlike sick time, personal leave or vacation.

[too bad whiny]

When you can't refute the facts, you postulate. Typical cop.

The fact that you are thehornet, and attempted to pass yourself off as the hornet, a ncpd that was critical of scpd?

[too bad whiny]

Read the other posts, idiot. Is it that difficult for you to accept the criticism of another cop? Are you that defensive? Hate to meet you on patrol. How the hell did you guys pass the psych exam.

Idiot, either you cant research your own claims of which "hornet" is who, or you are lying and posing as a wannabe hornet
Either way you are the idiot

[too bad whiny]

To all you idiotic cops out there. the Hornet is registered with the site admin- not your typical troll I would say.
Read all of his posts on the Village site. He was arguing against the village of Mineola to start their own pd among other issues that arose from that initiative that started with the village mayor. In one of his many posts he inadvertently stated he patrolled in the 3 pct which encompasses Mineola. I know many of you out there are rookies or wannabes, but you must have studied
"probable cause" while in the academy.
I know that when another cop criticizes you, you get scared, that maybe Stevie, the county legislature and the vast majority of taxpayers are right when they say you are overpaid and underworked, but facts are facts, no matter how unpleasing they are.

You are a moron. How much time did you spend trying to set this up? Didnt work. and you wonder why we call you a troll

[too bad whiny]

My my, how indignant you cops get when caught lying about how much time you have off. Maybe Levy is right about you. To much time off.

indignant? nah, just shocked that you still have nothing better to do with yourself, and that you expect us not to treat you like a joke

[Achilles]

Are we Parseing words?
Scheduled to work as opposed to Actually worked after/minus Vacation days, sick days, Chart days off, X days Off, Personel days off.
Don't even count BooBoo 207c days taken for a minor injury.
How dare you compare yourself to private sector workers.
You actually work less days than a teacher.
Stop crying already

"Chart days" and "X days" are the same thing and are already included in the 232-234, idiot. If you want to include vacation, sick and personal days then you have to include OT days and days spent in court, TVB, grand jury etc. as days worked. Your tunnel vision has you looking through a straw. I guess when the facts don't support your agenda you ignore them or make up your own.

[the hornet says]

"Chart days" and "X days" are the same thing and are already included in the 232-234, idiot. If you want to include vacation, sick and personal days then you have to include OT days and days spent in court, TVB, grand jury etc. as days worked. Your tunnel vision has you looking through a straw. I guess when the facts don't support your agenda you ignore them or make up your own.

you'd better be careful or he'll create another personna based on a registered member and be critical of you

[Unregistered/levyboy]

are you kidding me? all you do is lie, you just simply arent worth the time.
remember the last discussion when you were caught lying outright and claimed it wasnt your post?
I believe it was about how many cops work for suffolk, although you are such a frequent flier who knows, it might have been your 150 k gaffe, you have had so many brainiac moments

Look who is calling the kettle black. Intentionally lying about how long it takes to get 27 vacation days(15 years as opposed to 5) so you can lower the number of days you work a month. The official website of the scpd states you get 27 days after 5 years and that there are 2700 sworn personnel, thats not a lie, thats quoting from the horse's mouth.

[Unregistered/levyboy]

"Chart days" and "X days" are the same thing and are already included in the 232-234, idiot. If you want to include vacation, sick and personal days then you have to include OT days and days spent in court, TVB, grand jury etc. as days worked. Your tunnel vision has you looking through a straw. I guess when the facts don't support your agenda you ignore them or make up your own.

And this is coming from a cop whp once passed himself off as a patrol supervisor and made well over 150 thou. Remember those statements shithead. I guess when the facts don't support your agenda, you just make them up.

[vd/vd/vd/vd/vd/vd]

Look who is calling the kettle black. Intentionally lying about how long it takes to get 27 vacation days(15 years as opposed to 5) so you can lower the number of days you work a month. The official website of the scpd states you get 27 days after 5 years and that there are 2700 sworn personnel, thats not a lie, thats quoting from the horse's mouth.

I never said the number of vds....I just assumed it to be correct.
And there arent 2700 cops, that number if off, thats from years ago,.
The point is it is still not 16.6 no matter if you are the hornet wannabe or not.

[vd/vd/vd/vd/vd/vd]

And this is coming from a cop whp once passed himself off as a patrol supervisor and made well over 150 thou. Remember those statements shithead. I guess when the facts don't support your agenda, you just make them up.

you dont have a clue do you?
A chart day is part of a schedule for a cop that works 2 shifts, the nite shift and the day. If you work steady days you get them in the bank.
If they werent included it would be 22 days of work instead of 19.5

[vd/vd/vd/vd/vd/vd]

The official website of the scpd states you get 27 days after 5 years and that there are 2700 sworn personnel, thats not a lie, thats quoting from the horse's mouth.

thetruthinsuffolk.com has dormer stating there are aprox 2000-2100 cops
That was from a safety hearing this year. not from an antiquated website that hasnt been updated in 5+ years.

[the hornet is critical]

Look who is calling the kettle black. Intentionally lying about how long it takes to get 27 vacation days(15 years as opposed to 5) so you can lower the number of days you work a month. The official website of the scpd states you get 27 days after 5 years and that there are 2700 sworn personnel, thats not a lie, thats quoting from the horse's mouth.

says who the hornet or thehornet?

[\\\\\\\\lllll///////////]

Look who is calling the kettle black. Intentionally lying about how long it takes to get 27 vacation days(15 years as opposed to 5) so you can lower the number of days you work a month. The official website of the scpd states you get 27 days after 5 years and that there are 2700 sworn personnel, thats not a lie, thats quoting from the horse's mouth.

The difference, there is only you telling your tall tales(and the hornet of course)...and about 7 cops I know of that enjoy watching you squirm, which means there are more like 15. I am not sure how many "vds" I get, I will look it up. But only one of us said it was 20.

[Achilles]

And this is coming from a cop whp once passed himself off as a patrol supervisor and made well over 150 thou. Remember those statements shithead. I guess when the facts don't support your agenda, you just make them up.

What the fuck are you talking about, shitferbrains? Do you even think about what you want to say before you get diarrhea of the keyboard? What does my income or rank have to do with how many days we work? You are either a pathological liar or hopelessly misinformed. Your arguments are all over the place and confirm your stupidity. I make more than you and work fewer days than you because I am smarter than you, have a better education than you and I'm worth more than you. You need to come to terms with that and move on, oh insignificant one. Here's salt inyour wounds. I made more than 150K last year without one minute of overtime. I took my 30 vacation days, my 5 personal days and used sick time when I was ill. My vacation bank is full and when I decide to retire my sick bank will be full as well. Gonna get one huge check when I leave. Better save your pennies to pay those taxes. Suck on it, douche bag.

[Unregisteredteehee]

What the fuck are you talking about, shitferbrains? Do you even think about what you want to say before you get diarrhea of the keyboard? What does my income or rank have to do with how many days we work? You are either a pathological liar or hopelessly misinformed. Your arguments are all over the place and confirm your stupidity.

thats what he does when hes losing, inject worthless opinion, and distractions so the topic moves on away from the current one.

[stop ur whining]

Look who is calling the kettle black. Intentionally lying about how long it takes to get 27 vacation days(15 years as opposed to 5) so you can lower the number of days you work a month. .

Uhhm moron dont you mean increase the number of days worked a month?
You cant even get that straight...

[stop ur whining]

What the fuck are you talking about, shitferbrains? Do you even think about what you want to say before you get diarrhea of the keyboard? What does my income or rank have to do with how many days we work? You are either a pathological liar or hopelessly misinformed. Your arguments are all over the place and confirm your stupidity. I make more than you and work fewer days than you because I am smarter than you, have a better education than you and I'm worth more than you. You need to come to terms with that and move on, oh insignificant one. Here's salt inyour wounds. I made more than 150K last year without one minute of overtime. I took my 30 vacation days, my 5 personal days and used sick time when I was ill. My vacation bank is full and when I decide to retire my sick bank will be full as well. Gonna get one huge check when I leave. Better save your pennies to pay those taxes. Suck on it, douche bag.

apparently there is an old trolls tale that you claimed you were a supervisor.
just shows how long this troll has been dicking around here

[Brain Surgeon]

Go look up accident statistics by profession. You'll find that cops have the LOWEST rate of accidents and tickets.

Really, I never knew that. I wonder why police officers have the lowest rate for getting traffic tickets?

Any theories why?

[hardly]

Really, I never knew that. I wonder why police officers have the lowest rate for getting traffic tickets?

Any theories why?

goes hand in hand with low rates for accidents dummy, something you seemed to have left out

[not a brain surgeon]

Really, I never knew that. I wonder why police officers have the lowest rate for getting traffic tickets?

Any theories why?

I have a theory that you waited 5 years after registering to post your 1st post on a stupid topic because you are a loser

[Unregisteredipshyt]

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says who the hornet or thehornet?

lol....

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Handsome, Debonair, Classy, Well-Heeled
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Look at this one, what a quif!!!

tell me quif went to and cried....because i just posted about the gay faggot walking on water bit....

[i am the hornet]

Listen you moron, The Hornet is a nassau cop. he's got some credibility, alot more than you do. I hope you don't catch the swine flu this season, or back to patrol

And hes handsome debonaire well heeled and can walk on water

[back to trollskool]

Go back over the posts concerning the NCPD and you will see that he is most certainly a nassau cop.

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I dont see any posts from the hornet I see posts from thehornet
nice try skippy

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I dont see any posts from the hornet I see posts from thehornet
nice try skippy

At least he didnt go with the./hornet

[wahwah]

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I dont see any posts from the hornet I see posts from thehornet
nice try skippy.











oh the guys are picking on me can you delete their mean posts

[troll/ponzi/scheme]

And hes handsome debonaire well heeled and can walk on water

The hornet? Isnt he that ncpd thats critical of scpd?
Oh no wait, that was in the world of trolls a complex "ponzi scheme" of pretending to be another registered poster so that the troll can claim to be a ncpd thats critical of scpd.
suddenly hes gone,....hmmm I give it a week before hes back pretending that he isnt a horses ass

[walk on water]

The hornet? Isnt he that ncpd thats critical of scpd?
Oh no wait, that was in the world of trolls a complex "ponzi scheme" of pretending to be another registered poster so that the troll can claim to be a ncpd thats critical of scpd.
suddenly hes gone,....hmmm I give it a week before hes back pretending that he isnt a horses ass

yeah thats him

[Unregistered/ashle]

What the fuck are you talking about, shitferbrains? Do you even think about what you want to say before you get diarrhea of the keyboard? What does my income or rank have to do with how many days we work? You are either a pathological liar or hopelessly misinformed. Your arguments are all over the place and confirm your stupidity. I make more than you and work fewer days than you because I am smarter than you, have a better education than you and I'm worth more than you. You need to come to terms with that and move on, oh insignificant one. Here's salt inyour wounds. I made more than 150K last year without one minute of overtime. I took my 30 vacation days, my 5 personal days and used sick time when I was ill. My vacation bank is full and when I decide to retire my sick bank will be full as well. Gonna get one huge check when I leave. Better save your pennies to pay those taxes. Suck on it, douche bag.

If you weren't a asshole, you would understand that you have posted yourself as a cop and as a supervisor all in the same breath and then denied that you weren't a supervisor just a cop who made over 150 thou. Now you're saying you made over 150 thou a year without ot which means you are a supervisor. All we want is the truth, shitbird. Are you or are you not? And as far as being smarter , my profession needs at least a college degree for entry not a ged like yours.

[Unregisteredumbass]

If you weren't a asshole, you would understand that you have posted yourself as a cop and as a supervisor all in the same breath and then denied that you weren't a supervisor just a cop who made over 150 thou. Now you're saying you made over 150 thou a year without ot which means you are a supervisor. All we want is the truth, shitbird. Are you or are you not? And as far as being smarter , my profession needs at least a college degree for entry not a ged like yours.

You can make over 150k without being a supervisor or overtime in scpd you schmuck.
And the fact that your "profession" requires more schooling isnt a sign of "being smarter" but rather requiring a college degree.

[well heeled/ but stoopit]

All we want is the truth, shitbird. Are you or are you not? And as far as being smarter , my profession needs at least a college degree for entry not a ged like yours.


Who is we? you, the hornet and brain surgeon?
Are you really telling us that the higher level of education a person has the higher thats persons intelligence is?? That there is no way a person with 100 college credits can be smarter then a person with 101?
What you are discussing is not intelligence but a simple requirement to be hired.

[Unregistered/pointless]

If you weren't a asshole, you would understand that you have posted yourself as a cop and as a supervisor all in the same breath and then denied that you weren't a supervisor just a cop who made over 150 thou. Now you're saying you made over 150 thou a year without ot which means you are a supervisor. All we want is the truth, shitbird. Are you or are you not? And as far as being smarter , my profession needs at least a college degree for entry not a ged like yours.

I'm betting there is nothing anyone at your job can do if a person walks in without a ged and applies. Is there?

[Unregistered/showme]

You can make over 150k without being a supervisor or overtime in scpd you schmuck.
And the fact that your "profession" requires more schooling isnt a sign of "being smarter" but rather requiring a college degree.

What cop makes over 150 a year without ot, answer no one. Even pig face frayler who makes 150 a year has his k9 thrown in with his automatic ot.

[Unregistered/ohmyoh]

I'm betting there is nothing anyone at your job can do if a person walks in without a ged and applies. Is there?

Yeah, they can show them the door and tell them ged's need not apply because a COLLEGE DEGREE is required.

[Unregistered/lowdown]

Who is we? you, the hornet and brain surgeon?
Are you really telling us that the higher level of education a person has the higher thats persons intelligence is?? That there is no way a person with 100 college credits can be smarter then a person with 101?
What you are discussing is not intelligence but a simple requirement to be hired.

Never said that asshole. Your achilles the cop dumbrodsky, stated he was smarter. Just pointing out my job requires a college degree, your job does not