Dormer

[Unregistered64737]

Another great article in newsday on how the police left the victim of a stabbing lay in Brentwood for 8 hours because Levy/Dormer took away the standby pay to homicide detectives. Another fck up by the Dickie/Stevie duo. Hope the family sues them both and the county!!!!!

[fukinpriceless]

Another great article in newsday on how the police left the victim of a stabbing lay in Brentwood for 8 hours because Levy/Dormer took away the standby pay to homicide detectives. Another fck up by the Dickie/Stevie duo. Hope the family sues them both and the county!!!!!

thank you. that is the best thing i've read on this site in a long time. i.d section couldn't come out so levy and dormer could stick it up the sda's ass, and disguise it as "saving money". sda gave 10 days pay up,and they got fucked anyway. now theres a dead guy layin in the street for little kids to see, and dormer says it had nothing to do with his changes. brentwood consists mostly of hispanics, and we all know how steve feels about them.

[Unregisteredwxwrvv]

yea steve u "prick" and dormie u "fkn scab" i hope they sue your asses and make millions!! as a matter of fact, a little birdie says that mr al sharpton has been informed and is looking into the matter.... uh oooooo

[oopshediditagain]

i guess he can run the department with 1500 cops. HE'S RUNNING IT RIGHT INTO THE GROUND! thanx newsday for the story,it's good to see you're finally reporting some truth.

[Unregistered Done]

thank you. that is the best thing i've read on this site in a long time. i.d section couldn't come out so levy and dormer could stick it up the sda's ass, and disguise it as "saving money". sda gave 10 days pay up,and they got fucked anyway. now theres a dead guy layin in the street for little kids to see, and dormer says it had nothing to do with his changes. brentwood consists mostly of hispanics, and we all know how steve feels about them.

When the SDA signed off with Steve Levy about defering 10 days one thing that Steve did was sign a agreement to reinstate the overtime budget for the detective division. So he gets his 10 days from the detectives union and the breaks the agreement and gets rid of the stand by overtime which detectives have to be either at home or by the phone ready to go for a case (it cost 2 hours pay for this) to respond to a incident. The Police Commissioner says he will just call any detective anytime he is off duty now and hope someone answers to save 2 hours. Detectives have lives and are not always home and when you are off duty you are off.That is why you are getting 2 hours pay that night you are on standby to be ready and putting your life and family's life on hold for the night. Steve Levy who controls the Commissioner and tells him what to do (everybody in the police dept knows this) should be held responsible for this, and yes it is another incident in a hispanic community again that Steve Levy ignored. Read this http://www.newsday.com/news/local/suffolk/ny-limurd2112985699jul20,0,6436434.story

[Unreganswer]

Why not just promote two new Homicide Dicks to work opposite each other on mids?

[Unregisteredeee]

Why not just promote two new Homicide Dicks to work opposite each other on mids?

cuz its suffolk and levy is running the dept.

[ouch4lilstevie]

Im betting this policy changes quickly.....

[Unregisteredwaitnsee]

Im betting this policy changes quickly.....

Maybe maybe not. A dead body in Brentwood isnt the same as a dead body in Smithtown in the eyes of levy. Its a matter of how big a uproar this makes in the Latin american section.

[SCPDDOA]

S.C.Homicide dicks have been egotistical prima donna's for so long they can't stand the change.
Let's face it when they are not in some bar drinking fluffing up there image to chase some skirt on the clock, they are breaking some PO balls to get them coffee.
Come on Newsday where they really sitting at home on standby or at some ginmill whith his cellphone on.
This was a we'll show them job action. I guess these homicide dicks make so much money they can turn down a 5 hour OT minimum recall.
It may be time to hollistically reassign some of these Divas to the squads and get some new blood. There's plenty of capable squad dicks waiting for opportunity.
Sure Newsday covered this the way homicide cops wanted, because Newsday is always trying to currying favor with homicide dick's so they can get there off the record sound bites at murder cases.
The sin is that not one of these on scene cops or bosses had the balls , inteligence or humanity to block of view of body. That was their decision not Lebbies.
And as for Dormer he should have responded to the scene if there was such a problem developing.

[levys campspin]

S.C.Homicide dicks have been egotistical prima donna's for so long they can't stand the change.
Let's face it when they are not in some bar drinking fluffing up there image to chase some skirt on the clock, they are breaking some PO balls to get them coffee.
Come on Newsday where they really sitting at home on standby or at some ginmill whith his cellphone on.
This was a we'll show them job action. I guess these homicide dicks make so much money they can turn down a 5 hour OT minimum recall.
It may be time to hollistically reassign some of these Divas to the squads and get some new blood. There's plenty of capable squad dicks waiting for opportunity.
Sure Newsday covered this the way homicide cops wanted, because Newsday is always trying to currying favor with homicide dick's so they can get there off the record sound bites at murder cases.
The sin is that not one of these on scene cops or bosses had the balls , inteligence or humanity to block of view of body. That was their decision not Lebbies.
And as for Dormer he should have responded to the scene if there was such a problem developing.

Thats it ben? Its homicides fault? Thats pretty weak

[UnregisteredSOLUTION]

S.C.Homicide dicks have been egotistical prima donna's for so long they can't stand the change.
Let's face it when they are not in some bar drinking fluffing up there image to chase some skirt on the clock, they are breaking some PO balls to get them coffee.
Come on Newsday where they really sitting at home on standby or at some ginmill whith his cellphone on.
This was a we'll show them job action. I guess these homicide dicks make so much money they can turn down a 5 hour OT minimum recall.
It may be time to hollistically reassign some of these Divas to the squads and get some new blood. There's plenty of capable squad dicks waiting for opportunity.
Sure Newsday covered this the way homicide cops wanted, because Newsday is always trying to currying favor with homicide dick's so they can get there off the record sound bites at murder cases.
The sin is that not one of these on scene cops or bosses had the balls , inteligence or humanity to block of view of body. That was their decision not Lebbies.
And as for Dormer he should have responded to the scene if there was such a problem developing.

This is VERY simple. What you do is to pluck 2, 3, or 4 detectives out of the regular rotation each day and put them on a Night Watch assignment. You can do that without OT, or interfering with their BUSY workload. The DA squad, alone can supply the manpower.

Whether you like it or not a cop is on a standby basis 24x7x365. What Dormer took away was a gift you enjoyed at the taxpayers expense. Then you bite the hand that feeds you.

[UnregisteredDONTWORK]

This is VERY simple. What you do is to pluck 2, 3, or 4 detectives out of the regular rotation each day and put them on a Night Watch assignment. You can do that without OT, or interfering with their BUSY workload. The DA squad, alone can supply the manpower.

Whether you like it or not a cop is on a standby basis 24x7x365. What Dormer took away was a gift you enjoyed at the taxpayers expense. Then you bite the hand that feeds you.

Not without compensating them. Against the contract. and dont think after cutting the comp, and taking 10 days, they'd agree to it.
It wasnt a gift, it was compensation to be available for work. If the county just accepted the fact that some of the 100 or so crimes, accidents, or other investigations that require a detective do occur during the nite and staffed the pcts accordingly this wouldnt be a issue

[Unregisteredoooo]

This is VERY simple. What you do is to pluck 2, 3, or 4 detectives out of the regular rotation each day and put them on a Night Watch assignment. You can do that without OT, or interfering with their BUSY workload. The DA squad, alone can supply the manpower.

Whether you like it or not a cop is on a standby basis 24x7x365. What Dormer took away was a gift you enjoyed at the taxpayers expense. Then you bite the hand that feeds you.

Can't just change the tour on a daily basis and not pay both tour change and night diff.... it would cost more then just having someone on standby which cost the county 2 hours a night! It's silly to think that the peanuts they're paying in standby pay is not needed! It's cheaper to have a dick on standby then to try to do otherwise.

Just another Levy game that cost the taxpayers more in the long run!

[SCDOA1]

If we keep posting what we should do to show them or we'll fix'm and then do it contrary to what has been past practice we will be inviting Lebbie to file a Taylor law Violation against us for job slow down. We are walking down the path he wants, again he plays chess we play checkers.

[let him!!!!]

If we keep posting what we should do to show them or we'll fix'm and then do it contrary to what has been past practice we will be inviting Lebbie to file a Taylor law Violation against us for job slow down. We are walking down the path he wants, again he plays chess we play checkers.

I say a taylor law grievance would bury levy. Crimes are up,patrol arrests are about the same. Where levy is screwing himself is the special units, cope crime gang HWY etc, because these details are secondary to patrol, and the officers have either been removed or used as replacements THEIR activity is way down, some cases by 50%.
Who is at blame there? Can we really blame a crime or gang cop who is normally driving around in plainclothes in a unmarked car for working in uniform and answering 911 calls?
Believe me, I've seen the drop in self initiated activity, Levy doesnt want to go there

[Unregistered?????]

Whether you like it or not a cop is on a standby basis 24x7x365. What Dormer took away was a gift you enjoyed at the taxpayers expense. Then you bite the hand that feeds you.

Standby basis as long as he answers the phone

[personna mixup]

If we keep posting what we should do to show them or we'll fix'm and then do it contrary to what has been past practice we will be inviting Lebbie to file a Taylor law Violation against us for job slow down. We are walking down the path he wants, again he plays chess we play checkers.

funny the only other poster to use checkers/chess was a trollposer

[UnregisteredZNBM]

Taylor Law??? We Were All Counseled A Few Months Ago By Our Bosses To Write More Summonses. From What Was Said By Them Is, This Order Came From The Pc And The Ce. Now Thats Against He Taylor Law. And As Far As The Transfers Go, It Was Made Clear That Having Low Numbers Had A Lot To Do With It. Hope A Grievance Is Put In That..

[Unregisteredrunny]

What Dormer took away was a gift you enjoyed at the taxpayers expense. Then you bite the hand that feeds you.

What dormer took away was the motivation to stay home and answer the phone when it rings. It wasnt a gift, and you see how it impacted this investigation.
I dont feel bad for the dept. The 1st of many embarrassing incidents to come, on the head of the county exec/commish.
I do feel for the citizens that had the inconvienence of their block shut down, and the family members who had to wait to be notified.

[A former Mandrake]

Levy knows zippo about police work nor does he care to know. He leaves these gigantic brainfarts to his expert sock-puppet, Dick T. Ripper.

This was Dickie's brainstorm for sure. His only mandate is to save Steve some money (a.k.a "Precious bodily fluids") at the expense of the public welfare. Dormer has gone completely Brigadier General Jack Ripper over the past 2 years and is exhibiting a classic case of paranoid seige mentality.

Holed up in his office, peering out of the slits in his blinds and waiting for the the PBA (A.K.A. "the Commies") to attack with plots like flourinating his tap water in order to break him down and divert him from his mission to destroy the Department and the welfare of the citizens of Suffolk County.

Here's a recent secret electronic surveillance taken in Dickie's office as Dick admonishes one of the headquarters janitors who he believes to be a Chief (a rank that Dick refers to as a "Mandrake")

MUST WATCH:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KvgtEnABY&feature=related

Chilling stuff to be sure but this clearly explains the pathology at work in moving to save his precious bodily fluids from being stolen away by greedy commies in the Homicide Section - public be damned!




Just another Levy game that cost the taxpayers more in the long run!

[Unregistered yourself]

S.C.Homicide dicks have been egotistical prima donna's for so long they can't stand the change.
Let's face it when they are not in some bar drinking fluffing up there image to chase some skirt on the clock, they are breaking some PO balls to get them coffee.
Come on Newsday where they really sitting at home on standby or at some ginmill whith his cellphone on.
This was a we'll show them job action. I guess these homicide dicks make so much money they can turn down a 5 hour OT minimum recall.
It may be time to hollistically reassign some of these Divas to the squads and get some new blood. There's plenty of capable squad dicks waiting for opportunity.
Sure Newsday covered this the way homicide cops wanted, because Newsday is always trying to currying favor with homicide dick's so they can get there off the record sound bites at murder cases.
The sin is that not one of these on scene cops or bosses had the balls , inteligence or humanity to block of view of body. That was their decision not Lebbies.
And as for Dormer he should have responded to the scene if there was such a problem developing.

Some people watch WAY too m uch TV

[A former Mandrake]

btw:

Regarding my previous post and video link.

Dickie (General Ripper) refers to Steve Levy as "The President"
The Legislators are "The Joint Chiefs"
The Dismantling of the Department is known by codename "The Wing"
Masturbation is referred to using by Levy's diversionary codeword, "The Act of Love."

and again:
money is simply "Precious Bodily Fluids"
the PBA is "Commie Bastards."
the HQ Janitor in this secret video is un-named, but believed by Dickie to be one of his chiefs (what Dick calls a "Mandrake")

Link once again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KvgtEnABY&feature=related

Chilling!!!

[wheredoesthebuckstop]

S.C.Homicide dicks have been egotistical prima donna's for so long they can't stand the change.
Let's face it when they are not in some bar drinking fluffing up there image to chase some skirt on the clock, they are breaking some PO balls to get them coffee.
Come on Newsday where they really sitting at home on standby or at some ginmill whith his cellphone on.
This was a we'll show them job action. I guess these homicide dicks make so much money they can turn down a 5 hour OT minimum recall.
It may be time to hollistically reassign some of these Divas to the squads and get some new blood. There's plenty of capable squad dicks waiting for opportunity.
Sure Newsday covered this the way homicide cops wanted, because Newsday is always trying to currying favor with homicide dick's so they can get there off the record sound bites at murder cases.
The sin is that not one of these on scene cops or bosses had the balls , inteligence or humanity to block of view of body. That was their decision not Lebbies.
And as for Dormer he should have responded to the scene if there was such a problem developing.

The problem lies in the fact that the county would like to run the police dept as if it was a business. Sure the dept saved a few pennies, but now look at the debacle it now faces.
And you want to spin it as a problem with the detectives? Its their fault?
The best thing you could do is apologize to the community that was put through this, own up to it like a man, and move forward.
and to all those incredibly smart yes men hiding behind their collar brass, the next proposal brought forward that stinks, say it.

[buckstops@ce]

The problem lies in the fact that the county would like to run the police dept as if it was a business. Sure the dept saved a few pennies, but now look at the debacle it now faces.
And you want to spin it as a problem with the detectives? Its their fault?
The best thing you could do is apologize to the community that was put through this, own up to it like a man, and move forward.
and to all those incredibly smart yes men hiding behind their collar brass, the next proposal brought forward that stinks, say it.

Read my mind. Whos responsibility is it to adequately staff the various commands? Its not the detectives, but the administrative staff.
If they couldnt get anyone to respond its entirely their own fault.
For anyone to post on here that its the detectives to blame, whereas up until this case it was not a problem is spinning it hard for the same admin staff.
Shame on dormmat and the chiefs for this embarrassment

[UnregisteredIF LEVY]

The problem lies in the fact that the county would like to run the police dept as if it was a business. Sure the dept saved a few pennies, but now look at the debacle it now faces.
And you want to spin it as a problem with the detectives? Its their fault?
The best thing you could do is apologize to the community that was put through this, own up to it like a man, and move forward.
and to all those incredibly smart yes men hiding behind their collar brass, the next proposal brought forward that stinks, say it.

If I were Levy I would transfer every detective out of homicide to precinct squads and take those detectives from the precinct squads and other commands to Homicide. See if they require 2 hours OT to be on standby.

If you won't respond to a homicide and still call yourself a homicide detective, then you don't belong in homicide, nor do you belong in the detective bureau. Who the -_____ needs you?

Mr.Levy, hammer them NOW. Nothing is going to be affected. The truth is that with some fresh blood on the scene you will get a better work product.

[not a clue...]

If I were Levy I would transfer every detective out of homicide to precinct squads and take those detectives from the precinct squads and other commands to Homicide. See if they require 2 hours OT to be on standby.

If you won't respond to a homicide and still call yourself a homicide detective, then you don't belong in homicide, nor do you belong in the detective bureau. Who the -_____ needs you?

Mr.Levy, hammer them NOW. Nothing is going to be affected. The truth is that with some fresh blood on the scene you will get a better work product.

Oh yes, remove experienced homicide dics who dont even handle their 1st solo case until year 3-4 and replace them with general squad guys.
Either too new to have any real experience under their belt, or too salty to give a rats ass.
All of whom get standby pay as well.
and it wasnt just homicide dics who didnt show, it was id dics too, are you going to replace them?
The county is responsible for providing police services, the county cut the services and now must face the music.

[Unregisteredwawah]

If I were Levy I would transfer every detective out of homicide to precinct squads and take those detectives from the precinct squads and other commands to Homicide. See if they require 2 hours OT to be on standby.

If you won't respond to a homicide and still call yourself a homicide detective, then you don't belong in homicide, nor do you belong in the detective bureau. Who the -_____ needs you?

Mr.Levy, hammer them NOW. Nothing is going to be affected. The truth is that with some fresh blood on the scene you will get a better work product.

you sound very frustrated over this, must be a helpless feeling.

[Unregistered/bsbsbs]

Oh yes, remove experienced homicide dics who dont even handle their 1st solo case until year 3-4 and replace them with general squad guys.
Either too new to have any real experience under their belt, or too salty to give a rats ass.
All of whom get standby pay as well.
and it wasnt just homicide dics who didnt show, it was id dics too, are you going to replace them?
The county is responsible for providing police services, the county cut the services and now must face the music.

liar county general squad detecitves do not get called out for a felony, the paperwork sits til the monring

[Unregistered 6666]

You are an ill-informed moron. Precinct detectives certainly do get called out for certain crimes.

[Unregister yourself]

liar county general squad detecitves do not get called out for a felony, the paperwork sits til the monring

Another one with no clue

[Unregisteredloser]

liar county general squad detecitves do not get called out for a felony, the paperwork sits til the monring

Wrong as usual. Any crime with a "scene", any sex crime, gun involved and a bunch of felonies, death investigation non homicide

[Harry's Place]

If I were Levy I would transfer every detective out of homicide to precinct squads and take those detectives from the precinct squads and other commands to Homicide. See if they require 2 hours OT to be on standby.

If you won't respond to a homicide and still call yourself a homicide detective, then you don't belong in homicide, nor do you belong in the detective bureau. Who the -_____ needs you?

Mr.Levy, hammer them NOW. Nothing is going to be affected. The truth is that with some fresh blood on the scene you will get a better work product.

Maybe something you're incapable of understanding is that homicide detectives enjoy a unique relationship with prosecutors from Major Case/ Homicide Bureau. They've worked hundreds of cases together and know each others strengths. This status has been earned. A sudden turnover in investigators would take years of OTJ training. Case effectiveness would suffer for your petty reasoning.

[Unregistered 15536]

Just imagine a fatal on 495 or 27 roads closed til 10am

[Unregisteredandproud]

I just don't get it. For those of you who believe what Levy and Dormer are doing is great for the community, you're a bunch of a-holes!!! They are ruining the duty of ANY and All police. You cannot put a price on good policework, training or skills, in any rank of a department. Police maintain the safety of its communities by prescence and numbers. Try getting top $$ for your home in a high crime area. If you need an officer once in your life, you would pay anything for their response. Take a term life insurance policy out and you have piece of mind in case your family needs it. Why do you pay your car insurance? Health care? Policing is not a business. I only wish people had the guts to stick up to these two tyrants!! Lets see what's cheaper.. a well organized, fully staffed police force or the numerous lawsuits the county will have to pay for bad decisions made.If my family member was lying dead in the street for eight hours, I'd have a problem with it. It is no one's fault but the management ruining a proud force.

[b-wood taxpayer]

so when a white kid gets stabbed in the back during a bar fight in smithtown,detectives are called up to investigate. BUT when a hispanic is stabbed and dead in the street in brentwood, he can lie there dead for 8 hours? i now see how it is. i wish i was white irish, and not a second class citizen.

[UnregisteredUFORGOT]

so when a white kid gets stabbed in the back during a bar fight in smithtown,detectives are called up to investigate. BUT when a hispanic is stabbed and dead in the street in brentwood, he can lie there dead for 8 hours? i now see how it is. i wish i was white irish, and not a second class citizen.

THAT THE WHITE KID YOU ARE referring to is the son of the police commissioner. Can't believe u didn't know that.

[UnregisteredNO, I]

Maybe something you're incapable of understanding is that homicide detectives enjoy a unique relationship with prosecutors from Major Case/ Homicide Bureau. They've worked hundreds of cases together and know each others strengths. This status has been earned. A sudden turnover in investigators would take years of OTJ training. Case effectiveness would suffer for your petty reasoning.

THAT special relationship you speak of amounts to the cops lie and the DA swears by it. Go try to bullshit someone else with your fairy tales.

[yououttaknow]

THAT special relationship you speak of amounts to the cops lie and the DA swears by it. Go try to bullshit someone else with your fairy tales.

you outta know

[UnregisteredPETEPERP]

THAT special relationship you speak of amounts to the cops lie and the DA swears by it. Go try to bullshit someone else with your fairy tales.

This coming from the dead end former nypd(re; corrupt to the core) detective whos daughter found a mirror image of, in ray the perp.
Just because nypd detectives are corrupt and pimping out 13 y./os doesnt mean scpd does.

[do it levy!!!!!]

If I were Levy I would transfer every detective out of homicide to precinct squads and take those detectives from the precinct squads and other commands to Homicide. See if they require 2 hours OT to be on standby.

If you won't respond to a homicide and still call yourself a homicide detective, then you don't belong in homicide, nor do you belong in the detective bureau. Who the -_____ needs you?

Mr.Levy, hammer them NOW. Nothing is going to be affected. The truth is that with some fresh blood on the scene you will get a better work product.

Since when does the c.e. have the authority to transfer cops? I believe thats what his puppet is for.
And yeah this sounds like a great idea. Take homicide detectives and put them into the general squad, and when they get called into court on their pending homicide cases, or into hearings, for weeks on end, most likely on o/t since these hearings and cases were set up months ago, they'll just have to call in other detectives to cover their general sqd assignments.
In the meantime the general sqd guys will now be reaping the rewards of the homicide gig, and all their pending general sqd cases will pull them in off the homicide gig, and make more overtime for the other detectives.
BRILLIANT PLAN levy listen to this moron.

[UnregisteredJACKAZZ]

This coming from the dead end former nypd(re; corrupt to the core) detective whos daughter found a mirror image of, in ray the perp.
Just because nypd detectives are corrupt and pimping out 13 y./os doesnt mean scpd does.

Most daughters do try to marry their fathers. My daughter didn't come within a country mile of doing that. Don't compare me to my SIL. The only thing revelant here is if he is a crook. You never heard me once say what a great guy he is. Not my idea of what a daughter should marry, but for a father is there ever anyone good enough? Don't think you know what is in my mind and how I feel. You might be surprised. BTW, go f--k yourselves.

I don't compare NYPD to any police department. No other department has the problems with personnel as the NYPD. You never heard me deny that. But one thing I will tell you is if NYPD detectives pulled that crap that the SCPD homicide detectives pulled, the least that would happen is they get transferred out of homicide and probably out of the Boro they worked in. Good chance some of them would lose their gold shields.

[UnregisteredOTJNYPD]

Most daughters do try to marry their fathers. My daughter didn't come within a country mile of doing that. Don't compare me to my SIL. The only thing revelant here is if he is a crook. You never heard me once say what a great guy he is. Not my idea of what a daughter should marry, but for a father is there ever anyone good enough? Don't think you know what is in my mind and how I feel. You might be surprised. BTW, go f--k yourselves.

I don't compare NYPD to any police department. No other department has the problems with personnel as the NYPD. You never heard me deny that. But one thing I will tell you is if NYPD detectives pulled that crap that the SCPD homicide detectives pulled, the least that would happen is they get transferred out of homicide and probably out of the Boro they worked in. Good chance some of them would lose their gold shields.

I tell you what, if the mayor of ny and the commish pulled what levy and dormer did, it would be worse, and tranfer or not, no one would care.
You could take that gold shield and shove it. I'd come out here and work correctyions and live a better life.

[Unregisteredjackazznot]

Most daughters do try to marry their fathers. My daughter didn't come within a country mile of doing that. Don't compare me to my SIL. The only thing revelant here is if he is a crook. You never heard me once say what a great guy he is. Not my idea of what a daughter should marry, but for a father is there ever anyone good enough? Don't think you know what is in my mind and how I feel. You might be surprised. BTW, go f--k yourselves.

I don't compare NYPD to any police department. No other department has the problems with personnel as the NYPD. You never heard me deny that. But one thing I will tell you is if NYPD detectives pulled that crap that the SCPD homicide detectives pulled, the least that would happen is they get transferred out of homicide and probably out of the Boro they worked in. Good chance some of them would lose their gold shields.

Thats your opinion, knowing ray and you, i'd say its close.
And its not personnel problems its corruption problems, and they arent new, they were around before you, and they'll be around after you.

[u should know]

Most daughters do try to marry their fathers. My daughter didn't come within a country mile of doing that. Don't compare me to my SIL. The only thing revelant here is if he is a crook. You never heard me once say what a great guy he is. Not my idea of what a daughter should marry, but for a father is there ever anyone good enough? Don't think you know what is in my mind and how I feel. You might be surprised. BTW, go f--k yourselves.

I don't compare NYPD to any police department. No other department has the problems with personnel as the NYPD. You never heard me deny that. But one thing I will tell you is if NYPD detectives pulled that crap that the SCPD homicide detectives pulled, the least that would happen is they get transferred out of homicide and probably out of the Boro they worked in. Good chance some of them would lose their gold shields.

and thats how you know that dics lie and das swear to it?

[UnregisteredPETEPERP]

Most daughters do try to marry their fathers. My daughter didn't come within a country mile of doing that. Don't compare me to my SIL. The only thing revelant here is if he is a crook. You never heard me once say what a great guy he is. Not my idea of what a daughter should marry, but for a father is there ever anyone good enough? Don't think you know what is in my mind and how I feel. You might be surprised. BTW, go f--k yourselves.

I don't compare NYPD to any police department. No other department has the problems with personnel as the NYPD. You never heard me deny that. But one thing I will tell you is if NYPD detectives pulled that crap that the SCPD homicide detectives pulled, the least that would happen is they get transferred out of homicide and probably out of the Boro they worked in. Good chance some of them would lose their gold shields.

Well, I guess I dont have to respond as 3 other posters covered anything I could have said... its hard to pontificate when you have no respect huh?

[bring it on]

If I were Levy I would transfer every detective out of homicide to precinct squads and take those detectives from the precinct squads and other commands to Homicide. See if they require 2 hours OT to be on standby.

If you won't respond to a homicide and still call yourself a homicide detective, then you don't belong in homicide, nor do you belong in the detective bureau. Who the -_____ needs you?

Mr.Levy, hammer them NOW. Nothing is going to be affected. The truth is that with some fresh blood on the scene you will get a better work product.

You may try it but what makes you think a general sqd detective would answer his phone, anymore then a homicide det?
Do you think we are scared little bitches? Or job stealing little scabs? Put me in homicide and tell me if I dont answer the phone I'll be walking a foot post in the Danch, so I can go buy a comfortable pair of shoes.
you arent going to pit me vs my brother,. or any other scpd worth his weight.
Whats next, demote all detectives and promote all new ones?
Bite me

[Resident 2009]

As a resident of Suffolk county I am completely disgusted with the PBA and the and the Suffolk County Police department. To allow a person lay dead for ten hours on a public street because you want to hurt your boss. To all the officers involved including the managers for not having personal available to handle things like this have done a dishonor to all good law enforcement. You got what you wanted. You hurt the commissioner and the county which hurts us, but who do you people think you are to treat the public worst then garbage. I am now going to support the total break down of the department. This is what happens when you allow a organization to run loose. Be honest it has nothing to do with public safety, it's about your pay checks and creating a job, and how it runs so it benifit you. I want the department to be paid well and it is. Now we want the service we deserve for that kind of money.. Not every civilian is a piece of crap as you well educated people keep saying about the people you serve. You guys really serve us with dishonor and should be ashamed. Maybe what I'm reading is true and you really don't care.If their is a question about how you really feel, look at your staffing at critical times, your blogs on this site and what you say and really mean when talk about the public.The me,me,attitude is old and speaks loud and clear to me. Begreatful for what you have remember your not the only people who live here. Lastly It really seems like Suffolk County police feel they are better and deserve more than any other resident of the county and thats the message I recievced by you in your own words. Very disappointed!

[ifeel for u.....]

As a resident of Suffolk county I am completely disgusted with the PBA and the and the Suffolk County Police department. To allow a person lay dead for ten hours on a public street because you want to hurt your boss. To all the officers involved including the managers for not having personal available to handle things like this have done a dishonor to all good law enforcement. You got what you wanted. You hurt the commissioner and the county which hurts us, but who do you people think you are to treat the public worst then garbage. I am now going to support the total break down of the department. This is what happens when you allow a organization to run loose. Be honest it has nothing to do with public safety, it's about your pay checks and creating a job, and how it runs so it benifit you. I want the department to be paid well and it is. Now we want the service we deserve for that kind of money.. Not every civilian is a piece of crap as you well educated people keep saying about the people you serve. You guys really serve us with dishonor and should be ashamed. Maybe what I'm reading is true and you really don't care.If their is a question about how you really feel, look at your staffing at critical times, your blogs on this site and what you say and really mean when talk about the public.The me,me,attitude is old and speaks loud and clear to me. Begreatful for what you have remember your not the only people who live here. Lastly It really seems like Suffolk County police feel they are better and deserve more than any other resident of the county and thats the message I recievced by you in your own words. Very disappointed!

i understand how u feel. this commisioner sent a directive out cancelling stand by's between 1am-9am. with an order like that only the sgt responded,and they had to wait untill 9am to call the i.d. detectives,all to save o.t. i think you have been misinformed by the levy/dormer team. they didn't even bother to call detectives because of the commish's order.

[UnregisteredYOUJACKAZZ]

i understand how u feel. this commisioner sent a directive out cancelling stand by's between 1am-9am. with an order like that only the sgt responded,and they had to wait untill 9am to call the i.d. detectives,all to save o.t. i think you have been misinformed by the levy/dormer team. they didn't even bother to call detectives because of the commish's order.

THEY would have gotten OT with the clock running from the minute they were notified. Yeah, it was nice while it lasted because you were thrown a bone that you didn't even need.

Want to tell the folks how your once big boss put you guys on the clock for 7 hours OT so you could attend his gooms seminar and make a $100.00 donation? They had no trouble finding you then, did they?

[Unregisteredty6]

As a resident of Suffolk county I am completely disgusted with the PBA and the and the Suffolk County Police department. To allow a person lay dead for ten hours on a public street because you want to hurt your boss. To all the officers involved including the managers for not having personal available to handle things like this have done a dishonor to all good law enforcement. You got what you wanted. You hurt the commissioner and the county which hurts us, but who do you people think you are to treat the public worst then garbage. I am now going to support the total break down of the department. This is what happens when you allow a organization to run loose. Be honest it has nothing to do with public safety, it's about your pay checks and creating a job, and how it runs so it benifit you. I want the department to be paid well and it is. Now we want the service we deserve for that kind of money.. Not every civilian is a piece of crap as you well educated people keep saying about the people you serve. You guys really serve us with dishonor and should be ashamed. Maybe what I'm reading is true and you really don't care.If their is a question about how you really feel, look at your staffing at critical times, your blogs on this site and what you say and really mean when talk about the public.The me,me,attitude is old and speaks loud and clear to me. Begreatful for what you have remember your not the only people who live here. Lastly It really seems like Suffolk County police feel they are better and deserve more than any other resident of the county and thats the message I recievced by you in your own words. Very disappointed!

wow, the truth shines through

[fillmein..]

THEY would have gotten OT with the clock running from the minute they were notified. Yeah, it was nice while it lasted because you were thrown a bone that you didn't even need.

Want to tell the folks how your once big boss put you guys on the clock for 7 hours OT so you could attend his gooms seminar and make a $100.00 donation? They had no trouble finding you then, did they?

so the boss gets there to the scene,and decides he needs i.d. dics to respond as a next step. there is no standby list anymore because dormer axed it. so he does he call? the whole unit? is there anything in place? a list? no there is nothing set up. so he waits until they get on duty, 9am. that's the leadership's fault moron.

[clued in]

As a resident of Suffolk county I am completely disgusted with the PBA and the and the Suffolk County Police department. To allow a person lay dead for ten hours on a public street because you want to hurt your boss. To all the officers involved including the managers for not having personal available to handle things like this have done a dishonor to all good law enforcement. You got what you wanted. You hurt the commissioner and the county which hurts us, but who do you people think you are to treat the public worst then garbage. I am now going to support the total break down of the department. This is what happens when you allow a organization to run loose. Be honest it has nothing to do with public safety, it's about your pay checks and creating a job, and how it runs so it benifit you. I want the department to be paid well and it is. Now we want the service we deserve for that kind of money.. Not every civilian is a piece of crap as you well educated people keep saying about the people you serve. You guys really serve us with dishonor and should be ashamed. Maybe what I'm reading is true and you really don't care.If their is a question about how you really feel, look at your staffing at critical times, your blogs on this site and what you say and really mean when talk about the public.The me,me,attitude is old and speaks loud and clear to me. Begreatful for what you have remember your not the only people who live here. Lastly It really seems like Suffolk County police feel they are better and deserve more than any other resident of the county and thats the message I recievced by you in your own words. Very disappointed!

how can you blame guys who are sleeping and not aware that a body is lying dead in the street? dormer took away the standby list. were the i.d.dics given super powers that enabled them to wake up and respond? maybe dormer can get that big spotlight that commisioner gordon used to call "batman" !!!!

[UnregisteredHOWDUMB]

The homicide guys were probably so exhausted working on the Ghattas Homicide that they went home and collapsed on their beds and didn't hear the phone ringing.

If you need any help on that one I can give you a witness that may be able to help you. You see, Joe, while threatening this guy in Florida to have him and his entire family killed told this victim that he likes to use black guys to do his killing for him. They have no conscience and will think nothing of wiping out a whole family. I do know who the black guy he said he would use to kill this fellow. Aren't you hard working dicks looking at a black drug dealer that sold drugs with Joe out of the location Ghattas was killed????

By the way who told Joe about the car that was used in the attempt to kill him on 4/28/02, only hours after the attempt. Boy, that guy that told him sure must know somebody to get that information and the time, date, and location where the car was stolen several months earlier.

Funny how Ghattas was killed only three weeks after he was brought down to the DA and gave them statements and signed a cooperation agreement to provide evidence against Joe, primarily, Joe, and others. Do you think it is possible that the same unnamed neighbor that told Joe about the car could be the same person that could have told Joe about Ghattas giving testimony. Hmmmmm, now that's something to work on, not those silly homicides in Brentwood.

Funny how none of you twtis have no answers for that and reply with personal attacks on me and my SIL.

[shining thru]

wow, the truth shines through

the truth is that when dormer took the stand by away, his contingency plan was to have a boss repond, start processing the scene, and any other assisting detectives that are needed will have to start when they get in at 9am. do you really think this idiot considered how the residents of brentwood would feel about a body lying in the street for a few hours? you can't call out cops off duty if there isn't a stand by list in place. it's that simple.

[Unregistered 222222222]

The PBA had nothing to do with this. Detectives have their own union. Did the Det Sgt at the scene attempt to contact a Det. from ID? According to Dormer ID wasn't needed til after 9am.

[blame thecounty]

As a resident of Suffolk county I am completely disgusted with the PBA and the and the Suffolk County Police department. To allow a person lay dead for ten hours on a public street because you want to hurt your boss. To all the officers involved including the managers for not having personal available to handle things like this have done a dishonor to all good law enforcement. You got what you wanted. You hurt the commissioner and the county which hurts us, but who do you people think you are to treat the public worst then garbage. I am now going to support the total break down of the department. This is what happens when you allow a organization to run loose. Be honest it has nothing to do with public safety, it's about your pay checks and creating a job, and how it runs so it benifit you. I want the department to be paid well and it is. Now we want the service we deserve for that kind of money.. Not every civilian is a piece of crap as you well educated people keep saying about the people you serve. You guys really serve us with dishonor and should be ashamed. Maybe what I'm reading is true and you really don't care.If their is a question about how you really feel, look at your staffing at critical times, your blogs on this site and what you say and really mean when talk about the public.The me,me,attitude is old and speaks loud and clear to me. Begreatful for what you have remember your not the only people who live here. Lastly It really seems like Suffolk County police feel they are better and deserve more than any other resident of the county and thats the message I recievced by you in your own words. Very disappointed!

was not the pba involved. The detectives have their own union. As much as you would like to blame the cops, it is the county's responsiblity to ensure proper manpower coverage. It is not up to the detectives, scpd is one of the largest police depts in the country, and one of the few with no detective staffing at night.
The body would not have moved anyway because the secondary det. involved id section were not responding to 9am,. And that was the countys choice as well.

[RESIDENT 2009]

This is why we deserve better. The finger pointing,the excuses for failure. we should hold the commissioner responsible for the overall function for the department and everybody from him down has a roll to play in this. He forgot to change the tours so that somebody should be working 24-7 and I know that you guys do that. Why do dics (as you call them) only work during the day. Major crimes seem to me happen at night, and why wouldn't people who do this for a living everyday for years I'm told knowing that nobody would come in if they weren't going to be payed overtime. I know if you want to prove a point and hurt your boss by making him look bad that's what you do.If I really cared about the public I would have said boss what will happen when nobody pics up the phone,but this smells like pay back and a family was disgraced and Suffolk County looks unprofessional again and turns supporters away. I can tell you as a father with young kids, if they ever needed help and they were used a a pawn for greed I would do everything in my power to make a change and have those responsible pay.Public servants don't have the option to treat people a curtain way because the color of their skin,where they live,or what they do for a living. Everybody gets treat as if they were your family member. That's what I understand a public servant to be. This was clearly not the case and is clearly not the nornal practice.What I don't hear, and what I think is the real problem is that the officers understand this and do their job everyday by this standard.To have a body ,a person who was loved by someone lie in the street for hours to make a point is wrong. The boss should be accountable and should answer for this but all those involved in the pay back, and understand what it takes to the job everyday and not to speak up for public safety,and the right thing to do is I feel worse than a staffing error. That's what I see and that's why change has to happen because I worry my family will be used a pawn to get more money or secure a job. I want to know that my kids would be treat like they were your own! Thats the message I want to hear and thats what the standard should be.

[UnregisteredTHE LIST]

so the boss gets there to the scene,and decides he needs i.d. dics to respond as a next step. there is no standby list anymore because dormer axed it. so he does he call? the whole unit? is there anything in place? a list? no there is nothing set up. so he waits until they get on duty, 9am. that's the leadership's fault moron.

Funny, but it has often been said that when McCready was called to the Tankleff Homicide he was off duty and not on the list for the first response team. They had no problem finding him in the era of no cell phones. He just appeared out of a hat like a Magic Bunny.

You are always on stand by whether or not you get paid OT. I don't think there was a night I went to bed and woke up in the morning being disappointed I didn't get a piss call.

Stuff it where the sun don't shine.

[you're right....]

This is why we deserve better. The finger pointing,the excuses for failure. we should hold the commissioner responsible for the overall function for the department and everybody from him down has a roll to play in this. He forgot to change the tours so that somebody should be working 24-7 and I know that you guys do that. Why do dics (as you call them) only work during the day. Major crimes seem to me happen at night, and why wouldn't people who do this for a living everyday for years I'm told knowing that nobody would come in if they weren't going to be payed overtime. I know if you want to prove a point and hurt your boss by making him look bad that's what you do.If I really cared about the public I would have said boss what will happen when nobody pics up the phone,but this smells like pay back and a family was disgraced and Suffolk County looks unprofessional again and turns supporters away. I can tell you as a father with young kids, if they ever needed help and they were used a a pawn for greed I would do everything in my power to make a change and have those responsible pay.Public servants don't have the option to treat people a curtain way because the color of their skin,where they live,or what they do for a living. Everybody gets treat as if they were your family member. That's what I understand a public servant to be. This was clearly not the case and is clearly not the nornal practice.What I don't hear, and what I think is the real problem is that the officers understand this and do their job everyday by this standard.To have a body ,a person who was loved by someone lie in the street for hours to make a point is wrong. The boss should be accountable and should answer for this but all those involved in the pay back, and understand what it takes to the job everyday and not to speak up for public safety,and the right thing to do is I feel worse than a staffing error. That's what I see and that's why change has to happen because I worry my family will be used a pawn to get more money or secure a job. I want to know that my kids would be treat like they were your own! Thats the message I want to hear and thats what the standard should be.

the payback was coming from dormer when he stuck it up the detective's union ass by taking away the standby list. it's not that no one answered their phone, he put out an order saying these guys come in at 9am, it can wait till then. i agree with you 100%, and you and your family will always be treated well by the scpd. but according to dormer, not between 1am and 9am....

[Unregisteredcoach]

I'm sure dozens of detectives would've been happy to get called out on OT, but the system is failing. I'm just as surprised SC doesn't have detectives on the overnight tours. This needs fixing without blaming the cops who have nothing to do with this mess.

The county's attempts to save a few dollars is effecting public safety. Take some money away from illegal immigrants instead of police services.

I'll remember Levy next election day.

[Unregistered123]

This is why we deserve better. The finger pointing,the excuses for failure. we should hold the commissioner responsible for the overall function for the department and everybody from him down has a roll to play in this. He forgot to change the tours so that somebody should be working 24-7 and I know that you guys do that. Why do dics (as you call them) only work during the day. Major crimes seem to me happen at night, and why wouldn't people who do this for a living everyday for years I'm told knowing that nobody would come in if they weren't going to be payed overtime. I know if you want to prove a point and hurt your boss by making him look bad that's what you do.If I really cared about the public I would have said boss what will happen when nobody pics up the phone,but this smells like pay back and a family was disgraced and Suffolk County looks unprofessional again and turns supporters away. I can tell you as a father with young kids, if they ever needed help and they were used a a pawn for greed I would do everything in my power to make a change and have those responsible pay.Public servants don't have the option to treat people a curtain way because the color of their skin,where they live,or what they do for a living. Everybody gets treat as if they were your family member. That's what I understand a public servant to be. This was clearly not the case and is clearly not the nornal practice.What I don't hear, and what I think is the real problem is that the officers understand this and do their job everyday by this standard.To have a body ,a person who was loved by someone lie in the street for hours to make a point is wrong. The boss should be accountable and should answer for this but all those involved in the pay back, and understand what it takes to the job everyday and not to speak up for public safety,and the right thing to do is I feel worse than a staffing error. That's what I see and that's why change has to happen because I worry my family will be used a pawn to get more money or secure a job. I want to know that my kids would be treat like they were your own! Thats the message I want to hear and thats what the standard should be.

Are you done crying yet? If you don't like it, write a letter to Levy. In the mean time, go change your pad.

[UnregisteredIFTHIS]

the payback was coming from dormer when he stuck it up the detective's union ass by taking away the standby list. it's not that no one answered their phone, he put out an order saying these guys come in at 9am, it can wait till then. i agree with you 100%, and you and your family will always be treated well by the scpd. but according to dormer, not between 1am and 9am....

Meaning he ordered his supervisors NOT to call in a detective, then he is to blame. And I owe the detectives an apology. But I don't think that happened. What else is Dormer going to say when asked if the coverage was sufficient? What else could he say at this point in time? No matter who is at fault, it comes back to Dormer because it is HIS department to manage and if he can't keep it under control, then he is useless - which, by the way, he is.

No wonder why Sports Authority has been scaled down. With Dormer being there as a square badge the sneakers must have been running out the stores as fast as Jackie Robinson stole second base.

[LOL Dickie]

Meaning he ordered his supervisors NOT to call in a detective, then he is to blame. And I owe the detectives an apology. But I don't think that happened. What else is Dormer going to say when asked if the coverage was sufficient? What else could he say at this point in time? No matter who is at fault, it comes back to Dormer because it is HIS department to manage and if he can't keep it under control, then he is useless - which, by the way, he is.

No wonder why Sports Authority has been scaled down. With Dormer being there as a square badge the sneakers must have been running out the stores as fast as Jackie Robinson stole second base.

LOL... It was Sports Plus, not Sports Authority, but funny anyway. That's right Dickie, SCPD is a POLICE DEPARTMENT. You are no longer doing loss prevention at an arcade. Can we grow up and act like big boys now?

[new idea 4 dick]

why don't they train someone to process a dead body, and then have them sit around waiting for one to pop up, between 1am and 9am, completely free of charge, voluntarily, 7 days a week, and then work 9x5 like normal people. any takers? didn't think so.

[RESIDENT 2009]

Nothing better to say but good change my pad.? Okay. But I guess your right.You don't want or need the public to side with our uniformed personnel.That means one thing to me. You have to much power and clearly feel free enough to abuse it. Whats next at the public expense? Don't even feel bad that this kid was down in the street for all to see like a dead raccoon on the side of the road? These are the people we don't want employed protecting us and is a waste of money. These are the same type of people that give other good cops bad names and causes them to lose things they deserve. But it's clear that this self serving person feels differently and the hell with everybody else. That's what causes the failure and break down that's happening now. I guess being new here I understand how we have come to where we are today. Great job and I hope your brother officers see things different from you so SCPD gets the respect it deserves and What I want my it to have. But it clear their is a way of thinking by majority. It has to be I see all over these site and this person is another example. It is what it is. I didn't say it. you put it out there for all to see and so judgment follows. Sorry you don't like it but tough. I have a right to be upset and demand better.Change has to happen its clear. Those who are upset by what I believe is reasonable probably are the ones sacrificing public safety for their own benefits.

[Unregisteredsee]

Are you done crying yet? If you don't like it, write a letter to Levy. In the mean time, go change your pad.

Thats why most people hate you guys. Your attitudes suck.

[stay strong]

Meaning he ordered his supervisors NOT to call in a detective, then he is to blame. And I owe the detectives an apology. But I don't think that happened. What else is Dormer going to say when asked if the coverage was sufficient? What else could he say at this point in time? No matter who is at fault, it comes back to Dormer because it is HIS department to manage and if he can't keep it under control, then he is useless - which, by the way, he is.

No wonder why Sports Authority has been scaled down. With Dormer being there as a square badge the sneakers must have been running out the stores as fast as Jackie Robinson stole second base.

He worked at sports plus, not sports authority.

[think mcfly]

Do you really think that the people posting here a actually cops?
This site is a nice mix of flunkies, trolls, posers, political hacks, and gullible readers, none of which would know the "truth" if it was standing in front of them.

[Unregisteredwtwilson]

This is why we deserve better. The finger pointing,the excuses for failure. we should hold the commissioner responsible for the overall function for the department and everybody from him down has a roll to play in this. He forgot to change the tours so that somebody should be working 24-7 and I know that you guys do that. Why do dics (as you call them) only work during the day. Major crimes seem to me happen at night, and why wouldn't people who do this for a living everyday for years I'm told knowing that nobody would come in if they weren't going to be payed overtime. I know if you want to prove a point and hurt your boss by making him look bad that's what you do.If I really cared about the public I would have said boss what will happen when nobody pics up the phone,but this smells like pay back and a family was disgraced and Suffolk County looks unprofessional again and turns supporters away. I can tell you as a father with young kids, if they ever needed help and they were used a a pawn for greed I would do everything in my power to make a change and have those responsible pay.Public servants don't have the option to treat people a curtain way because the color of their skin,where they live,or what they do for a living. Everybody gets treat as if they were your family member. That's what I understand a public servant to be. This was clearly not the case and is clearly not the nornal practice.What I don't hear, and what I think is the real problem is that the officers understand this and do their job everyday by this standard.To have a body ,a person who was loved by someone lie in the street for hours to make a point is wrong. The boss should be accountable and should answer for this but all those involved in the pay back, and understand what it takes to the job everyday and not to speak up for public safety,and the right thing to do is I feel worse than a staffing error. That's what I see and that's why change has to happen because I worry my family will be used a pawn to get more money or secure a job. I want to know that my kids would be treat like they were your own! Thats the message I want to hear and thats what the standard should be.

The county for years has used standby for most felonies. The majority of felonies wait until the am, but the more serious ones they call someone in on o/t. Its a gamble that usually pans out for the county.
The county got greedy and cut the standby and in this case, didnt call out the id detectives to process the crime scene. Whether homicide showed up or not, that body wouldnt move. dormer can say whatever he wants, but physical evidence does degrade over time, and the hours of delay gives the criminals ample time to escape, etc. I dont see this happening again
there is no way in hell they add detectives to the nite tour. if they did it would be at the cost of the day tour.

[Assumptions]

Thats why most people hate you guys. Your attitudes suck.

Who exactly are "you guys"? I guarantee the poster is not who you assume them to be.

[Unregistered456789]

Nothing better to say but good change my pad.? Okay. But I guess your right.You don't want or need the public to side with our uniformed personnel.That means one thing to me. You have to much power and clearly feel free enough to abuse it. Whats next at the public expense? Don't even feel bad that this kid was down in the street for all to see like a dead raccoon on the side of the road? These are the people we don't want employed protecting us and is a waste of money. These are the same type of people that give other good cops bad names and causes them to lose things they deserve. But it's clear that this self serving person feels differently and the hell with everybody else. That's what causes the failure and break down that's happening now. I guess being new here I understand how we have come to where we are today. Great job and I hope your brother officers see things different from you so SCPD gets the respect it deserves and What I want my it to have. But it clear their is a way of thinking by majority. It has to be I see all over these site and this person is another example. It is what it is. I didn't say it. you put it out there for all to see and so judgment follows. Sorry you don't like it but tough. I have a right to be upset and demand better.Change has to happen its clear. Those who are upset by what I believe is reasonable probably are the ones sacrificing public safety for their own benefits.

The people you are referring to in your post are Levy and Dormer. Contrary to what you may believe, they call the shots. The cops on the street are not policy makers, nor are the detectives, or anyone else. So stop complaining on the internet, go down to your legislators office and start demanding some answers.

[Unregisteredsee]

Who exactly are "you guys"? I guarantee the poster is not who you assume them to be.

Good point.

[copscop]

Since "Resident 2009" seem to know so much, he/she should run against Levy for CE. Or maybe throw their name in the hat for the PC job when Dormer finally wears out his welcome.
It's amazing how many people like to tell the police how to do their jobs when they have no idea how it works. When you call a plumber, do you tell him how to sweat pipes? Don't tell me how to do my job and I'll do the same for you. Just because you watch CSI and Law and Order doesn't make you a police expert.

[UnregisteredCHICO]

Politics..and Nonsense! Trillions Being Spent By Obama Yet Levy See's Fit To Nickle And Dime At The Expense Of Safety/service ? If You Ask Me..this Is Clearly A Move That Could Only Happen In A Minority Or Low Income Neighborhood! No Way Would This Take Place In Dix Hills Or Manorville. How Dormer And Levy Once Again Over Look The Hispanic Community Is Unbelievable! Shame On The Police Commish. And The County Exc.

[Unregistered2238]

As a resident of Suffolk county I am completely disgusted with the PBA and the and the Suffolk County Police department. To allow a person lay dead for ten hours on a public street because you want to hurt your boss. To all the officers involved including the managers for not having personal available to handle things like this have done a dishonor to all good law enforcement. You got what you wanted. You hurt the commissioner and the county which hurts us, but who do you people think you are to treat the public worst then garbage. I am now going to support the total break down of the department. This is what happens when you allow a organization to run loose. Be honest it has nothing to do with public safety, it's about your pay checks and creating a job, and how it runs so it benifit you. I want the department to be paid well and it is. Now we want the service we deserve for that kind of money.. Not every civilian is a piece of crap as you well educated people keep saying about the people you serve. You guys really serve us with dishonor and should be ashamed. Maybe what I'm reading is true and you really don't care.If their is a question about how you really feel, look at your staffing at critical times, your blogs on this site and what you say and really mean when talk about the public.The me,me,attitude is old and speaks loud and clear to me. Begreatful for what you have remember your not the only people who live here. Lastly It really seems like Suffolk County police feel they are better and deserve more than any other resident of the county and thats the message I recievced by you in your own words. Very disappointed!

Shouldn't you be working, Mr. Tempera? Oh I forgot...this IS your job.

[chickendick]

Shouldn't you be working, Mr. Tempera? Oh I forgot...this IS your job.

he really is a douche bag isn't he?

[Unregisteredfukedup]

he really is a douche bag isn't he?

no, sadly, think of your brother laying dead in the street for 8 hours. you don't care about the public or public safety, it is about your financial benefits

[Resident 2009]

Since "Resident 2009" seem to know so much, he/she should run against Levy for CE. Or maybe throw their name in the hat for the PC job when Dormer finally wears out his welcome.
It's amazing how many people like to tell the police how to do their jobs when they have no idea how it works. When you call a plumber, do you tell him how to sweat pipes? Don't tell me how to do my job and I'll do the same for you. Just because you watch CSI and Law and Order doesn't make you a police expert.Don't watch CSI and I'm on break at my second job.Regular guy raising two kids on the Island with average Intelligence. I will get Involved and take my arguments to our Reps. They will have to see for them selves.I believe I'm reasonable and fair,but disgusted.People see what they see and it's looks bad bottom line. It's nice when people can talk and not be held accountable for what they say.I understand when officers post here feel angry when the job they love and commit their life to is under fire. I'm not sure but I think most would lay a lot on the line to do what they do.It's a sad day in NJ. Lots of people do this because the need to serve.Volunteer Firemen do what they do and military serve their country as I have. That's why I need my police force to be the best and watch my back and do because the love of the job and the willingness to serve the community. Not just pay and perks. Thats when things go bad. You shot yourself in the foot by make your own life bad.That why it's a disgrace when you stoop to name calling, mighty then thou attitudes,disrespectful to the very people you say you would sacrifice for. My knowledge comes from live experience,serving my country, and just being a decent person with commonsense. I guess I'm not fit to do what you do according to most here who seem to be officers. Sorry you may disagree but the story unfolds by your own words I'm just reading them. My skin is tough. I been to the school of hard knocks and had to work hard for everything I have. Nothing to prove but I wont allow you to take my kids future away by representing them in a fashion less then what they deserve. Emyting their pockets by crippling and fleecing the county. I will make sure I do my share to have things changed.Sucks when not everybody is a troll and sucks even more when my arguments seem reasonable that people wont be able to say forget he's been watching to much CSI. That's what make me different them a bunch of people with bruised egos. Your not going to lose your job, or can't live here on the Island or laugh all the way to the back as I was told. But the real killer is the job will change and that's what your really frightened of!

[Resident 2009]

Don't watch CSI and I'm on break at my second job.Regular guy raising two kids on the Island with average Intelligence. I will get Involved and take my arguments to our Reps. They will have to see for them selves.I believe I'm reasonable and fair,but disgusted.People see what they see and it's looks bad bottom line. It's nice when people can talk and not be held accountable for what they say.I understand when officers post here feel angry when the job they love and commit their life to is under fire. I'm not sure but I think most would lay a lot on the line to do what they do.It's a sad day in NJ. Lots of people do this because the need to serve.Volunteer Firemen do what they do and military serve their country as I have. That's why I need my police force to be the best and watch my back and do because the love of the job and the willingness to serve the community. Not just pay and perks. That,s when things go bad. You shot yourself in the foot by make your own life bad.That why it's a disgrace when you stoop to name calling, mighty then thou attitudes,disrespectful to the very people you say you would sacrifice for. My knowledge comes from live experience,serving my country, and just being a decent person with commonsense. I guess I'm not fit to do what you do according to most here who seem to be officers. Sorry you may disagree but the story unfolds by your own words I'm just reading them. My skin is tough. I been to the school of hard knocks and had to work hard for everything I have. Nothing to prove but I wont allow you to take my kids future away by representing them in a fashion less then what they deserve. Emptying their pockets by crippling and fleecing the county. I will make sure I do my share to have things changed.Sucks when not everybody is a troll and sucks even more when my arguments seem reasonable that people wont be able to say forget he's been watching to much CSI. That's what make me different them a bunch of people with bruised egos. Your not going to lose your job, or can't live here on the Island or laugh all the way to the bank as I was told. But the real killer is the job will change and that's what your really frightened of! See regular guy. I ride bikes,work hard,raise a family and can't spell for shit. The typo's are distracting, I work a lot of hours.But can dole out a good dose of hard love. To straighten out and confusion its laugh all the way to the bank. I love that one. Story in a nut shell. Sad but true!

[Unregistered3523]

My ehart bleeds for you... but in the end this is a job and no one is looking out for us but the guy in blue next to us. You wouldnt do your job for free and either would we...