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Shirley Dad
05-07-2004, 04:22 AM
There is a four-way race for one board seat. What does anyone know about the candidates? I am new to the area and need some help in making a decision.

to shirley dad
05-09-2004, 02:49 PM
the four people are

Jim Mazzarella- president of local rotary club, and union official

Shelia Doyle- active in the school district since 1986 and has participated in numerous school district committees, and attended most school board over the past 7 years

Phyllis Ling- active in the school district PTO and has been an active volunteer for the school and community for many years

Walter Ford- has been involved in the local scouting organization in the community and has numerous children in the schools

Shirley Dad
05-10-2004, 01:21 AM
Thanks for the information on the candidates. I can see that I am going to have a hard time making a choice. As I said, I am new to the community and am unfamiliar with any of the candidates. I hope that more people will make comments on this subject to help me out.

FloydTeach
05-16-2004, 06:43 PM
As a teacher for the William Floyd School District I would like to thank to thank you for taking an active role in voting for the school board officials and the budget.

I hope that you will approve the new budget submitted because much is still needed to help our students achieve better test scores considering the new higher NYS standards.

Not only do I teach in the district but I am proud to say that my own children are enrolled in this district. I have two children ages 5 and 9. What ages/grades are your children in?

I reccommend the early childhood program that the school is working on implementing soon. It will be "tested out" in one elementary school at a time. Please let me know if you are interested, I would need to know which school your children attend. I would be more than happy to make a few inquiries for you as to the start date of the program based on your specific school.

Thank you,
PG

Mastic Resident
05-18-2004, 03:58 PM
One other thing about the candidates. Jim Mazzarella is Ed Hennessey's brother-in-law. And the local GOP has spent a bundle trying to get him elected. They've even been using Fred Towle's old mailing lists for Mazzarella's mailings. Hmmmmm............

Shirley Res
05-19-2004, 09:19 AM
The winner is Sheila Doyle. She and Mazzarella were very close in the polls but she beat him by just less then 100 votes.

Using a Republican list couldn't of helped him too much since Doyle's husband is a party committeman as well so making it political wouldn't of worked.

Ford tried making it political but as a Dem in the WF district he didn't stand a chance got less then 300 votes and Ling got just more then 300.

Sheila Doyle had the support of most of the board and will do a good job since she's been to the school board meetings.

floydmom
05-25-2004, 10:44 AM
Floyd Teach - how can we find out information on the early childhood program you spoke about in your response? Is information available through the school district, is it a limited test pilot, or available to all residents? What criteria will they follow for enrollment? Sorry for the questions, but I'm a mom of three and any additional information you can provide would be so helpful. Education is so important and if I can get involved or receive information on this program - I would appreciate it!

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05-31-2004, 08:16 AM
see this website
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Inquiring mind
06-05-2004, 09:05 AM
Anybody know if school board president Vincent Pascale's computer company is still doing business with the WFSD?
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FR32
06-07-2004, 03:02 AM
I do not believe that the school district does any business with VEP computers. What have you heard have you bring up this subject?
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Floyd Resident
06-13-2004, 05:35 AM
Tom Galinski served on the school board here several years ago. He is also a member of the Colonial Youth and Family Services Board of Directors. Is he implicated in the scandal in your school district?

roslyn resident
06-13-2004, 06:07 AM
his name has been mentioned numerouse times as has gkuckin that they worked together

rtgr
06-14-2004, 10:40 AM
lets work together and solve our problems

Floyd Resident
06-15-2004, 02:20 AM
I have never heard of her but that doesn't mean that she wasn't employed here. I am surprised to see all the talk about Tom Galinski when I have not seen his name mentioned once in the papers in regards to this whole mess.

Mrham
06-16-2004, 06:01 PM
vep computer still and always has supplied the school district with computers not a conflict of interest? bullshit a little bird flew from the sky and told me that the DA. will be making another surprise appearance. Hawkins and Pascal watch out. you both may be meeting bubba in centeral islip.
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WF Taxpayer
06-17-2004, 05:46 PM
Did VEP sell the WF school district any shredders? If not, maybe Vinnie can make one last sale before Spota comes back.

MB RESIDENT
06-25-2004, 05:39 AM
how many wfsd employees got their jobs through the gop? besides doyle?

Mastic Resident
06-25-2004, 09:18 AM
The GOP had absolutely nothing to do with getting Doyle a job with the district when he was in a bad way. It was merely friends helping friends. Thanks to Fred Towle, Mr. Doyle was left in a position with no means to support his family and the school district was kind enough to help him out on a temporary basis. Get your story straight before you make allegations!!!

Whistleblower
06-25-2004, 10:37 AM
I hear there will be all sorts of happenings in the district and that Daniel Cifonelli just resigned. What's up with that? Is money missing? I hear he was paid thousands of dollars because he knows all the secrets.

VEP
06-25-2004, 04:03 PM
Mastic Resident aka Sheila Doyle, puhleeeeeez Sheila, give it a rest.

Mastic Resident
06-26-2004, 02:39 AM
TO VEP, whomever you are, I am not Sheila Doyle. As a matter of fact I have never met her. I am just a guy from Mastic trying to set the story straight. Don't try to create rumors where there is only truth.

Help
06-29-2004, 09:17 AM
Please explain what happened in William Floyd--first $700,000 is missing and then it is reported $528,000 is missing and Wright was arrested

Is there two separate thefts
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teachers pet
06-29-2004, 04:34 PM
Didn't a couple of Mt. Sinai administrators come from William Floyd?

NEWSDAY READER
07-01-2004, 06:56 AM
It seems that Brookhaven Planning Board members are also on the school board. Isn't the head of the school board also on the planning board? Doesn't he own a computer store that sells to the school in computers or service contracts?

tom
07-01-2004, 01:47 PM
Take him back!!!! Roslyn Cant Afford Him!!!!
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NG1984
07-02-2004, 05:28 AM
Tom,
Stop being ignorant. Your comments are unappreciated and based on falsehoods.

shocked
07-04-2004, 03:11 AM
I am very surprised that there have been very few comments on this board about the scandal in the school district. I hope that people just aren't apathetic and sit back and do nothing to get the answers to many important questions. You are the master of your own destiny and if you sit back and don't question anything, then you get what you deserve!!
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EmptyPockets
07-04-2004, 06:04 AM
Why do you think the thefts in Roslyn and William Floyd have taken place? Because it has been EASY, like stealing candy from a baby!! And taxpayers just pay,pay, pay!!

How many other districts have faced missing funds? Too many to list!! The problem is that most SDs never contact the DA's office . Three Village is lucky to have a resident who tracks expenditures by getting numbers under freedom of information. He found money missing. Citizen groups should be created in every district to monitor spending. NYS doesn't seem to care. The state rarely does an on site audit. LIers complain about high taxes, but do nothing . Enough is enough!

DDFCM
07-06-2004, 08:17 AM
To all of the party’s involved with James Wright or have something to hide save the TAX PAYERS and resign. Each year we go to the polls and vote for the school budget. And every year the district office tells us how if the budget doesn’t pass the children will suffer and so will the programs. Just look at yourselves and what you have done to hurt the children. Lets start with Rich H you of all people should go first this has been going on far to long under your time as superintendent. You have the job to see things like this don’t happen. And when they do your not to try and hide them from the public,that makes you part of it. This all stinks of the old Nick P. days.
Mr. VEP if you and the rest of the BOD are involved the time to Quit is now. Remember the tax payers gave you the job with trust and were happy to do it but they will be very angry ugly when they remove you!!!!!

winston
07-06-2004, 10:34 AM
you know who is next!

WFSD Taxpayer
07-06-2004, 10:40 AM
All right all you William Floyd taxpayers. Time to put your words into action. There is a School Board meeting this Wednesday July 7th at the high school. Be there at 7:30 sharp. Let's tell Hawkins and the Willimam Floyd Cosa Nostra what we really think.

Posting on the boards is easy. Now get your asses in gear and show up at the meeting. I'll bring the tar. The rest of you folks can bring the feathers.
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DDFCM
07-06-2004, 12:50 PM
I will be there for the first time in ten years or more and I won't be going away again.:">

shocked
07-06-2004, 01:51 PM
The board meeting starts at 8 pm. Shame on you if you haven't attended a school board meeting in over 10 years. I guess you weren't really interested in the education of your children or you would have attended the meetings on a more regular basis.

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floyd mom
07-06-2004, 01:54 PM
I've never been to a board meeting, I think because I grew up in the district maybe I was a little naive. All these people who's names I knew growing up, whose children went to school with me - they were parents like mine - people you "trusted". Big brothers who protected their little sisters. Now, they're taking advantage of their grandchildren's and nieces and nephews' education, their children as taxpayers and the whole institution we entrust our children to. How can this be? How foolish am I?

IT'S TIME.... everyone needs to show their support and show we aren't going to take this sitting down!

AboutTime
07-07-2004, 03:59 AM
If you think Roslyn's problems are bad, wait.

DDFCM
07-07-2004, 06:46 AM
I don't think the question of where have I been for the last few years should be a concern. I was always there for the children and the community, just different areas than the School Board Meetings. Because after Nick P was gone I had a little more trust in the system and the people in charge.
WELL I GUESS I AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT TRUSTED THE BOD were wrong!!!!

WF
07-07-2004, 11:19 AM
HMMMM lets see Towle, Pasquale, Hawkins!!!!
What they all have in common is they are perosnal friends. Lets not forget Neppel !!!!! Seems to me, that we have a bad group of people and us taxpayers need to take a stand.

LETS SUPPORT our KIDS, Reform NOW get rid of the Sup. and Board President.

me
07-07-2004, 11:27 AM
Think of this:
The new school additions, They were lacking money for the project.......They changed from what they were going to do to something else, Well now we know where the money went and why our community suffered. We should revote on the budget and VOTE NO!!!!!! NO NO NO !!!! The salaries are crazy and THEY do nothing for the community.

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suggestion
07-09-2004, 08:19 AM
If I was the DA I would investigate all the administrators who came from Floyd and went to other districts--cuz they learned from the master!!!!

taxpayers anonymous
07-09-2004, 08:30 AM
Who was the master? I think he goes back many years. Who would have ever believed that our schools would become a huge pot o' gold for so many! There aren't enough hours in the day or manpower to catch the thieves.

suggestion
07-09-2004, 10:07 AM
Does anyone remember the superintendent in William Floyd who was caught emblezing. Now the people who worked for him are emblezing.

Where there's smoke......

The DA should check on all administrators who once worked for floyd

shocked
07-10-2004, 03:43 AM
I think the biggest problem in our district is the apathetic people who live here. There are over 10,000 students in the district and over 50,000 residents and yet at any given school board meeting there are usually 3 or 4 people attending. Well if you don't get involved and ask questions and show concern, then you get what you deserve. The only time people come to a board meeting is when there is controversy. Be involved all the time in your schools and then maybe things will be different.
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WFSD Taxpayer
07-13-2004, 07:34 AM
In a July 1st article in the NY Times, it was reported:

Suffolk County prosecutors investigating how more than $750,000 was taken from the William Floyd School District have begun to explore relationships between school officials and local Republican organizations, a spokesman for the district attorney said Wednesday.

"It's a school district that does have some political coloring," said Bob Clifford, a spokesman for Thomas Spota, a Democrat and the Suffolk district attorney. "They're definitely looking at it."

Prosecutors said they have noticed a number of odd and unlikely connections between educators and Republican organizations for Suffolk County and the town of Brookhaven, like political donations, school contracts and a political aide who received a job in the school district.

IT was also reported that:

After Mr. Towle quit the county Legislature under a cloud of scandal, one of his aides obtained a job with the district in August 2003. The aide, Bill Doyle, worked five weeks before he re-entered the political areba as an aide to Mr. Towle's successor, Peter O'Leary, a Republican of Moriches.

For years, the district's insurance agent has been Thomas Neppell, who was the leader of the Suffolk and Brookhaven Republican Parties before he stepped down last year. Mr. Neppell's insurance company also did business with other districts.

Several residents who follow local politics said school board members have also been influential in local Republican politics for years.

The district superintendent, Richard J. Hawkins, said the district had simply sought to forge close relationships with politicians in power. And in Brookhaven, Republicans have long been the dominant political party.

But the most interesting part of the artice was in Richard Hawkins last comment, "I contribute to virtually everybody's campaign."

Funny thing though, a search of campaign finance records reveals exactly who "everyone" is in Richard Hawkins' mind. Here are a few of Mr. Hawkins' contributions over the last four years:

CITIZENS COMMITTEE TO RE-ELECT SENATOR KEN LAVALLE A STATE SENATOR
Hawkins, Richard J. 100.00 30-AUG-00 2000

Romaine for County Executive
Hawkins, Richard J. 7/28/03 250.00
Hawkins, Richard J. 8/22/03 300.00
Hawkins, Richard J. 9/29/03 250.00
Hawkins, Richard J. 10/10/03 150.00
Hawkins, Richard J. 10/17/03 200.00

LD 3 Peter O'Leary
Hawkins, Richard 7/15/03 100.00
Hawkins, Richard 10/7/03 100.00

Romaine for County Clerk
Hawkins, Richard 3/23/99 100.00
Hawkins, Richard J. 11/27/01 100.00
Hawkins, Richard J. 2/28/02 100.00
Hawkins, Richard J. 8/5/02 150.00
Hawkins, Richard J. 10/17/02 125.00

Fred Towle
Hawkins, Richard 3/1/02 75.00

And the wierd part is, I couldn't find a single Democrat that Mr. Hawkins donated to. Hmmmmmm....
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Floyd Graduate
07-13-2004, 08:34 AM
It turns my stomach that other districts do more with there money then we do. We are ranked as one of the highest paying districts and always going up. It is sad day.....Other distrcts have what we don't......The teachers did not care about the students......JUST THE MONEY!! Always threatning to strike. Lets all vote NO on the next election...Perhaps HAWKINS himself will @#%$ his pants. This scandal is just the beginning...I heard one time that the previous Super. Wayne Williams retired silently due to a "situation".....Makes you wonder is our school being run by the circus....EDUCATION is a wonderful thing. Parents need to make the best example for there child. If we all work together we can really win this and get the children educated and make them feel proud about Floyd. Let our money go to the kids first. Teachers don't need $80,000 to teach what 32 + 1 is.. Only time you hear good things about floyd is on page 100 or something.

WFSD Taxpayer
07-13-2004, 08:46 AM
Political contributions of current WFSD Board of Education members:

Vincent Pascale, President
Pascale, Vincent J
500.00 16-AUG-01 2001 Brookhaven Town Republican Pre-Primary Committee
Pascale, Vincent J
350.00 26-FEB-03 2003 Brookhaven Town Republican Pre-Primary Committee
Pascale, Vincent J
250.00 26-MAR-03 2003 Brookhaven Town Republican Pre-Primary Committee
Pascale, Vincent J
70.00 23-MAY-03 2003 Brookhaven Town Republican Pre-Primary Committee
Pascale, Vincent J
125.00 12-AUG-03 2003 Brookhaven Town Republican Pre-Primary Committee

Romaine for County Executive
Pascale, Judy 9/25/03 118.00 golf gifts
Pascale, Vincent 9/25/03 300.00 trophies
Pascale Jr., Vincent 7/28/03 250.00
Pascale Jr., Vincent 8/22/03 150.00
Pascale Jr., Vincent 9/29/03 250.00
Pascale Jr., Vincent 10/17/03 100.00
Pascale, Judith 7/11/03 75.00
Pascale, Judith 10/20/03 1,500.00
Pascale, Judith A. 10/1/03 4,689.00 Wages
Pascale, Judith A. 10/15/03 1,875.60 Wages
Pascale, Judith A. 10/31/03 4,220.10 Wages
Pascale, Judith A. 11/17/03 2,344.50 Wages

LD 3 Peter O'Leary
Pascale Jr., Vincent 7/15/03 100.00
Pascale Jr., Vincent 10/7/03 250.00
Romaine for County Clerk
Pascale Jr., Vincent 8/22/02 250.00
Pascale Jr., Vincent 1/6/03 100.00
Pascale, Judith 3/29/99 200.00
Pascale, Judith 11/30/00 100.00
Pascale, Judith 5/24/01 225.00
Pascale, Judith 5/31/02 200.00

Jeananne Dawson, Vice President
Romaine for County Executive
Dawson, Jeananne 9/29/03 40.00

William Guiducci
Romaine for County Executive
Guiducci, William 7/25/03 25.00
Guiducci, William 8/22/03 25.00
Guiducci, William 9/29/03 25.00
Guiducci, William 10/10/03 25.00

LD 3 Peter O'Leary
Guiducci, William 10/15/03 25.00


Tony Liberti
Liberti, Anthony
100.00 30-AUG-00 2000 Citizens Committee to Re-elect Senator Ken Lavalle State Senator
Liberti, Anthony
50.00 10-AUG-00 2000 Friends of Leah Jefferson Mbr of Assembly
Liberti, Anthony J
150.00 10-FEB-00 2000 Brookhaven Town Republican Pre-Primary Committee
Liberti, Anthony J
100.00 12-MAY-99 1999 Brookhaven Town Republican Pre-Primary Committee
Liberti, Anthony J
250.00 08-MAY-01 2001 Brookhaven Town Republican Pre-Primary Committee
Liberti, Anthony J
150.00 23-FEB-01 2001 Brookhaven Town Republican Pre-Primary Committee
150.00 22-SEP-00 2000 Brookhaven Town Republican Pre-Primary Committee
Liberti, Anthony
125.00 14-AUG-01 2002 Citizens Committee to Re-elect Senator Ken Lavalle State Senator
Liberti, Anthony
100.00 05-SEP-02 2002 Citizens for Fred Thiele Mbr of Assembly
Liberti, Anthony
50.00 09-SEP-02 2002 Citizens Committee to Re-elect Senator Ken Lavalle State Senator
Liberti, Anthony J
35.00 09-OCT-02 2002 Brookhaven Town Republican Pre-Primary Committee
Liberti, Anthony J
100.00 19-JUL-00 2000 Brookhaven Town Republican Pre-Primary Committee
Liberti, Anthony J
35.00 23-MAY-03 2003 Brookhaven Town Republican Pre-Primary Committee

Romaine for County Executive
Liberti, Anthony 8/22/03 1,000.00
Liberti, Anthony 10/27/03 500.00
Liberti, Tony 9/25/03 50.00 gift certificate
Liberti, Tony 9/25/03 50.00 gift certificate
Liberti, Tony 9/25/03 600.00 gas grill
Liberti, Tony 9/25/03 250.00 color TV

LD 3 Peter O'Leary
Liberti, Anthony 10/7/03 100.00


Sheila Doyle
DOYLE, WILLIAM J
25.00 26-FEB-03 2003 Brookhaven Town Republican Pre-Primary Committee

Romaine for County Executive
Doyle, Sheila D. 9/15/03 50.00

LD 3 Peter O'Leary
Doyle, Sheila 10/15/03 100.00
Doyle, William 10/31/03 148.00 postage

Patrick Nocerino
Romaine for County Executive
Nocerino, Patrick 8/22/03 250.00
Nocerino, Patrick 10/17/03 100.00


Anybody see a trend here????????
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shocked
07-13-2004, 08:58 AM
Gee, I wasn't aware that Judy was on the Board of Education. Why list her donations when you are citing donations given by board members. Seems to me you are just trying to create chaos and rumors.
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campaign finance
07-13-2004, 09:21 AM
Spouses are fair game Especially if they work for elected officials like Judy Pascale - works for Ed Romaine and Bill Doyle - works for Peter O'Leary

UncleSam
07-13-2004, 09:58 AM
Your post was an eyeopener. One thing is certain. It's pay to play on LI.
We live in the Republican cesspool. Taxpayers fleeced all the time.
I hope Spota nails every one.

curious
07-13-2004, 10:55 AM
I think that you ought to stick to the subject which was which Board members donated to campaigns and not which spouses gave donations. It is unnecessary to try to create more controversy by dragging the spouses into the issue. People like you belong under a rug, you are only looking to make things look worse than they already are.
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WFSD Taxpayer
07-13-2004, 11:17 AM
From Peter O'Leary's Campaign Disclosure:

EXPENDITURES - Schedule F
William Floyd Community Summit 9/5/03 1,000.00

Hmmmmm......Who is on the William Floyd Community Summit? Here is their Executive Committee:
Beth Wahl, Chairperson
Vicki Jordan, Vice Chairperson
Joe Barone
Bill Doyle
Daniel Els
Richard Hawkins
Mary Koehler
Vinny Pascale
Melne Thomas
Jeff Williams

Some familiar sounding names there huh? Why is a political campaign making a donation to them? Maybe we should ask Richard Hawkins, and Vinny Pascale?
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insight
07-13-2004, 12:24 PM
That is all information but it doesn't show anything. If you look at everyone's contribution sheets you will see that Republican's donate to Republican's and Democrat's to Democrat's. I know Vinny Pascale and I can tell you that the William Floyd Summit and School Board have worked exceedingly hard to make the Mastic/Mastic Beach/Shirley community better. These people do this for free because most have children in the community and most also are people who built up businesses in the area.

I have no doubt that the people who committ crimes against the people of the community will be brought to justice because everything is out in the open. The books are there and the DA and auditors are free to look at everything.

Please do not slander or malign the hard working people in the community just because of a few rotten eggs. It just so happens that those elected officials that you mention have helped our community more than any other elected officials.

These same people have donated the same amount of money to Ed Hennessey and he is an example of another fine elected official. Thank god for people like O'leary, Romaine and Hennessey to watch over our community. Also the civics, chambers and local community groups. Doing this alone is impossible, but through cooperation it is possible and even as Newsday has noted, we are coming back.

We want safe streets for our children and we will work as hard as we can to ensure it by working with our police. Newsday usually casts our community in an unfavorable light, but those of us who live here know that we have beautiful properties that will become model community of neighbors.

WFSD Taxpayer
07-13-2004, 12:41 PM
From the NY Times article:
Prosecutors said they have noticed a number of odd and unlikely connections between educators and Republican organizations for Suffolk County and the town of Brookhaven, like political donations, school contracts and a political aide who received a job in the school district.

Follow $$$$$$$ the $$$$$$$ money $$$$$$$! Political contributions mean EVERYTHING!!!!

At the July 7th School Board meeting, William Guiducci declared that he is an employee of one of the banks that the WFSD does business with. Patrick Nocerino declared that he is an employee of one of the electrical contractors doing business with the WFSD.

There is no slander in facts.
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insight
07-13-2004, 01:07 PM
What I think is that these are the same people who have been working in this community for such a long time and the only ones who quite honestly give a damn enough to take their own time and do something.

With that said, if it is found that some people in the school turn out to be criminals, then they should be removed and tried as such.

Flowers
07-14-2004, 12:51 AM
I am a member of a committee within the Wm. Floyd Community Summit. We are not part of the school district and the school board has nothing to do with what we do. The Summit is an incoporated not-for-profit organization that has done many terrific things for this community including the revitilization of Montauk Hwy. Look around at the local gardens that we have planted and take care of because no one else would. We are trying hard to make this a better community and it certainly is. Yes, a couple of member of the Board of Education are on the Summit's board but they are also active community members and not just board members. The person who listed the information about the Summit's Board of Director's they should get their information straight. Vicki Jordan has not been the vice-president for several years and Joe Barone hasn't been a member of the Summit for over 4 years. If you want to try to bring some controvery to the Summit, please try to get your facts straight. Our motto is "Together we make a difference" and WE DO and I am proud to be a member of such a wonderful organization. If you want to know about the Summit then come to the meetings, join a committee and help make things better instead of trying to make things worse.
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WFSD Taxpayer
07-14-2004, 03:55 AM
The person who listed the information about the Summit's Board of Director's they should get their information straight. Vicki Jordan has not been the vice-president for several years and Joe Barone hasn't been a member of the Summit for over 4 years.

The information came directly from the William Floyd Community Summit Web Page on the William Floyd School District website as of 07/13/04: William Floyd Community Summit Council
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DDFCM
07-14-2004, 07:57 AM
Nick P. was the master and now he's gone but he lives on with all of those who are doing wrong in the district.He once told me " if your going to do something with yourself to be the best you can."And he was the best!!!Anyone who could beat 52 counts of wrong doing by the DA walk away with a slap on the hand and a vote of Confidence from the community IS THE BEST or The MASTER!!
But anyway he wold be proud of his students like Rich H. James W and so on.

DDFCM
07-14-2004, 08:00 AM
But anyway he would be proud of his students like Rich H., James W and so on.

Mastic Resident
07-14-2004, 10:49 AM
We are all in the community and everybody is complaining. BUT no one is taking action. If you want to see things right then ALL of us have to attend meetings and rectify this problem. The BOE is made up of some very fine people, BUT they are being led by a ring leader and the Super. of RINGING.....If we want change we need to take action the right way. Our kids are the most important thing. Education means everything.



lets see

towle-------hawkins--------pascale---------hmmmm did many people know they live all by each other.......so interesting...

Son of the Beach
07-14-2004, 03:52 PM
To poster Flowers:
I must correct you. The Wm Floyd Summit has ALWAYS been an arm of the Wm Floyd School District since its inception.
Maybe you were not around at the beginning, but I was. I remember how it got started and how a group came to the community with an idea for a summit modeled on a program in use in other school districts.
The summit was structured around and made part of the Wm Floyd School District, with school administrators and the school board being a major part of the group.
The summit has no website of its own -- it is on the Wm Floyd School District webpage and listed as district endeavor.
Why else do you think that the summit claims to work for the hamlet of Moriches, in addition to Mastic, Mastic Beach and Shirley. Duh - because Moriches is part of the Wm Floyd School District. Otherwise, Moriches is completely separate and distinct from the Tri-Hamlet area.
Many people in our community (and outside it) think that the summit is highly political. Because of this, it is in danger of not being taken seriously - in fact, it is probably too late.
The fact that the "dream team" (joke) of Hawkins/Pascale/Doyle are running the show at the summit (regardless of who is the titular Pres.) shows exactly what people think of when they think of the summit. No wonder the summit zipped its lips and sat on its hands in wake of the recent corruption scandal at the district.

WFSD Taxpayer
07-16-2004, 03:02 PM
Does anyone know what the DA's office pulled out of the WFSD business administration (Rich Hawkin's) office today? They had a van full of documents when they left.


Hmmmmm.......
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Scandalmania II
07-16-2004, 03:42 PM
The DA is just NOW getting to the records? Hasn't everything been shredded? The DA needs more manpower. This county is loaded with crooks. Was the former DA , JC, asleep at the wheel or what? ( Or what? He protected the politically connected!)

WF
07-16-2004, 03:49 PM
By J. Jioni Palmer andAnn Givens
Staff Writers

July 17, 2004


Prosecutors armed with a search warrant collected numerous subpoenaed documents from the William Floyd school district Friday as part of their ongoing investigation into administrative corruption there.

Edward Heilig, who heads the economic crimes bureau for Suffolk District Attorney Thomas Spota's office, said prosecutors ultimately did not have to execute the warrant because school officials cooperated with their requests. But he said they obtained the warrant because "the history of their cooperation has been hot and cold."

They took computer and payroll records and other financial documents, Heilig said. The document collection comes about two weeks after Spota's office charged former William Floyd treasurer James Wright with grand larceny for allegedly stealing at least $700,000 in school funds. It also comes on the heels of a major corruption scandal in Roslyn, where former superintendent Frank Tassone and chief financial officer Pamela Gluckin are charged with stealing $2 million in district funds.

Heilig's account of what happened Friday conflicts with district officials' account.

District Superintendent Richard Hawkins denied Friday that prosecutors had visited his office with a search warrant, saying they had come there at the district's request for a meeting to discuss "the district's ongoing cooperation in the investigation."District spokesman Russell Schaffer seconded that interpretation of the morning's events.

"In the school district's continuing effort to cooperate with the district attorney's office, the William Floyd school district invited the D.A.'s office to a meeting today to give them records and documents," he said. He declined to say what records were turned over or what prompted the meeting. Heilig said his office had initiated the event.

"It would be wrong to say that our presence at the district today was at their invitation," he said.

He said they obtained the search warrant because district officials had been slow to turn over some documents and they wanted to make sure no one tampered with evidence on the district's computers.

"We didn't want them to do anything with the computers before we could get to them," he said.

School board President Vincent Pascale, who had not heard about the incident Friday afternoon, said it's wrong to suggest the district was slow to turn over documents.

"We've worked in lock step with the district attorney," he said. "Of course, the D.A. has more subpoena power to deal with this than we do. But everything they've needed we've supplied."

Scandalmania II
07-17-2004, 02:41 AM
It sure doesn't sound like the district is cooperating with the DA. Someone should expose the Roslyn / Floyd connection. Pam Gluckin, alleged to have stolen more than 1 million $ from Roslyn, started her career as a bus driver in William Floyd. Tom Galinski, the recently fired head of buildings and grounds in Roslyn, sat on the Floyd school board. Are there more connections? Clue us in!!!

Boomer
07-19-2004, 09:59 AM
Is this why Tony left in such a rush?

fRED
07-19-2004, 10:18 AM
jayson stoller, principal of rhs was a central office administrator in the "good ole" days
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RememberWhen
07-19-2004, 01:35 PM
Thanks for the info on Stoller. Did he take Pam with him to Roslyn? There's plenty of dirt to dig up, get the shovels ready!
Who was the infamous WF supe back in the real good ole days? like the 80s or early 90s? He hired excessed teachers from places like Commack. But few new teachers ever got tenure. It was a money-saving ploy.

In the Know
07-30-2004, 07:40 AM
hang onto your hats boys and girls. its about to hit the fan in Wm Floyd.
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Scandalmania II
07-30-2004, 07:58 AM
We have heard this before!

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz Give us details. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Do the taxpayers of William Floyd care? They better speak up!!

In the Know
07-30-2004, 11:36 AM
ok. keep a close eye on newsday for the next couple of days. a facinating tale of a certain district employee and his political activies using district equipment.

tom spota has a few dozen indictments he is about to unseal and he has a new grand jury too.

hows that for details?
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Scandalmania II
07-30-2004, 02:05 PM
We can hardly wait to see who goes down. We'll be checking you out, Know! Thanks.

Shirley Resident
07-31-2004, 02:13 AM
All of you hate mongers make me sick. I agree there are things that need to be addressed and if crimes were committed then those people should be brought to justice. However, the people who are yelling and screaming the most about the scandal are people who have never been involved in the school district unless there was a controversy. Where were you at PTO meetings, school functions or anything to do with the community? You were no where to be found!! I have been involved in this community for many years and I can honestly say that all the people who were yelling and screaming at the board meeting were people that I had never seen before, ANYWHERE. Yes, you should fight for what is right, but be there when the good times are also not just the bad. This district has come a very long way in the last 25 years and you all should appreciate that fact also. Quit coming out from under the rug like a rat and take part in your schools and community like good citizens should!!!

Wondering
07-31-2004, 08:58 AM
Can people who don't have kids join the PTO, Shirley Resident?

Can anybody who doesn't have kids or is not connected to the Republican Party ever get elected to the School Board in the William Floyd Schools District?

Will the William Floyd Community Summit ever stop being an extension of the local Republican Party?

Will the District ever stop being nothing more than a vacuum cleaner, attached to to wallets of people that don't have children?

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curious
07-31-2004, 09:33 AM
I have seen the William Floyd Community Summit mentioned a few times on this site but I know nothing about it. Could some on please fill me in?
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WONDERING ANSWER
08-03-2004, 11:10 AM
WHAT IS THE COMMUNITY SUMMIT,

A. A BUNCH OF MORONS THAT TALK ABOUT WAYS TO BETTER THE COMMUNITY, LETS SEE HOW THAT IS WORKING OUT.

1. KIDS HURTING KIDS
2. DRUG RATES ARE HIGH
3. MORE DROP OUTS

SEE THE SUMMIT IS THE THE CIRCUS, EXCEPT THE ANIMALS ARE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, WE ALL WORK HARD, PAY TAXES.....LETS SEE GOOD THINGS HAPPEN...

GET THE KIDS WHERE 90% GO ON TO COLLEGE, INSTEAD OF BECOMING THIEVES, DRUGGIES OR ETC.

Flowers
08-04-2004, 02:32 AM
To Wondering:
I am a member of the Summit and I resent your implications. First and foremost, the Summit is an organization who's goal is to improve the quality of life in the community. From working with the Summit for many years, I believe they are doing a super job. As for the issues you listed as problematic in the community, I don't believe those are Summit issues but mostly family issues. Let parents take control of their children and maybe we wouldn't have some of these problems going on. For your information the Summit is not a political organization, nor are we controlled by any political party or school district. It is merely a group of people trying to better things. I guess you are not one of them. I am proud of all the hard work my committee and the others do for this community. Look at the changes that have occured on Montauk Hwy. and there will be many more; you have the Summit to thank for that. They have worked to better this community whether it is creating gardens, finding activities for the young people, and many other things. Don't be critical of something that you apparently know nothing about. If you want to help and not hinder, join the Summit or some other organization and help out.
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MB RES
08-05-2004, 03:41 AM
I agree with Flowers even though I am not a member of the Summit. I am familiar with them and some of their members and I must say that from what I know they are doing wonderful things for the community. Many changes are occuring thanks to the Summit and other fine organizations and rather than critize them, maybe these critics ought to join one of the groups and work to try to better the community rather than just try to bring it down with their very biased remarks.

WFSD Taxpayer
08-05-2004, 03:57 PM
Didn't Rich Hawkins, the Superintendent of the WFSD and a Board member of the William Floyd Community Summit, state at a Summit board meeting, "We are the most powerful political organization in the area."?

MB RES and FLOWERS had better take the blinders off and stop posting BS on this board.

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Flowers
08-06-2004, 01:31 AM
to WFSD Taxpayer: Rich Hawkins never said at a Summit meeting that "we are the most powerful political organization" because we are not a political organization. We are a grassroots group looking to improve the quality of life in the community. It would be easier to do if there weren't "dirtbags" like you around trying to destroy the good that a group is doing. Are you jealous because you do nothing except try to stir up trouble?
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WFSD Taxpayer
08-10-2004, 09:56 AM
If you are going to post about the Summit B.W., at least be truthfull. Rich made is "most powerful political organization" comment last year during the LD 3 race.
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Flowers
08-11-2004, 12:59 AM
To WFSD Taxpayer:
I am not BW but I know who she is and she would never lower herself to argue publically with the likes of you. You really need to get your story straight before you make comments because I go to the Summit meetings and I have never heard Dr. Hawkins say anything like that. He may have said that the Summit is becoming a major force in the community or something like that but he would never say the Summit is a political force because that is so far from the truth. I think you need to get your hearing and spelling checked because both seem to be in need of major help.
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passingthru
08-11-2004, 04:30 AM
I do not mean to be disrespectful, but your community needs major help. I was passing through and stopped at the Shirley Pathmark. Never again!!! Let me tell you, that place is scary!! The parking lot is trashed and filled with rough critters that shop there. I think SUMMIT should look into it.

Son of the Beach
08-11-2004, 08:48 AM
To poster Flowers:

I must correct you. The Wm Floyd Summit has ALWAYS been an arm of the Wm Floyd School District since its inception.

Maybe you were not around at the beginning, but I was. I remember how it got started and how a group came to the community with an idea for a summit modeled on a program in use in other school districts.

The summit was structured around and made part of the Wm Floyd School District, with school administrators and the school board being a major part of the group.
The summit has no website of its own -- it is on the Wm Floyd School District webpage and listed as district endeavor.

Why else do you think that the summit claims to work for the hamlet of Moriches, in addition to Mastic, Mastic Beach and Shirley. Duh - because Moriches is part of the Wm Floyd School District. Otherwise, Moriches is completely separate and distinct from the Tri-Hamlet area.

Many people in our community (and outside it) think that the summit is highly political. Because of this, it is in danger of not being taken seriously - in fact, it is probably too late.

The fact that the "dream team" (joke) of Hawkins/Pascale/Doyle are running the show at the summit (regardless of who is the titular Pres.) shows exactly what people think of when they think of the summit. No wonder the summit zipped its lips and sat on its hands in wake of the recent corruption scandal at the district.

Mrham
08-11-2004, 05:39 PM
the summit is filled with a bunch of lying cheating political backstabbing hacks that only care about themselves not the community!
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Flowers
08-11-2004, 11:48 PM
To MRHAM:
What have you done for the community? We are out there cleaning up the garbage, weeding and planting gardens, holding summer programs for the kids, revitilizing Montauk Highway and many other things. Rather than complain about something you know nothing about, why not come to a meeting and see what is going on or do something else in the community, instead of just complaining.
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MB RES
08-13-2004, 01:54 AM
I think everyone has lost track of what this thread is about. It is about the William Floyd School District and not about an organization who happens to have a similar name and is just out there doing good work. Let's get back to the subject at hand.

The Good Life
08-13-2004, 10:38 AM
You sir are an idiot

This thread is about the William Floyd School District...AND the William Floyd Community Summit is an arm of the William Floyd School District. The school superintendent and school board members compose the leadeship roles on the board of the summit. The summit was organized around school district priorities.

The summit is not some independent group like the Mastic Park Civic Association or the Mastic Beach Property Owners Association.

Safe.

whocares
08-14-2004, 03:16 AM
Your school district has been ROBBED and all you people do is post nonsense and drivel !!! Get a life!!! No wonder why it was easy for the "alleged" thief to write big fat checks!!

Summit follower
08-14-2004, 03:38 PM
It is comprised of all of Fred Towle's ex aides!

Flowers
08-16-2004, 07:51 AM
To Summit Follower:
Boy, Fred Towle must have had a lot of aides if you allegations are correct about the Summit comprised of all of Fred's aides. I didn't know that the representatives of all of the community organizations, local churches, the library and the local citizens were ALL Fred's aides. He must have had some huge payroll!! Yes, you are correct in saying that a couple of Fred's ex-aides are Summit members but they are Summit members because they are active in the community and their membership had nothing to do with Fred Towle, who for your information, tried to do everything in his power to undermine the Summit because he could not control the organization. If you want to say things about the Summit, I suggest you know what you are talking about before you open your big mouth.
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WFDS Taxpayer
08-20-2004, 02:02 PM
In an earlier post, Flowers wrote, "We are out there cleaning up the garbage..." That's really kind of funny. Especially considering that the illegal signs for the Summit's "Pride Night" on August 2nd, are still up and creating an eyesore in our community.

I guess it is only garbage when someone besides the Summit puts up illegal signs in the area.

And as far as Flowers rebuttal that the Summit is not a political organization, perhaps Flowers can explain why none of the Democratic "Local Elected Officials" were mentioned on the flyer for "Pride Night". Just republicans. Could it be that the Democrats were not even invited?

One more question Flowers. How much money did the Summit get when Bill Doyle single-handily dissolved the Bay Area Civic Association, and gave its treasury to the Summit?

whocares
08-20-2004, 03:37 PM
gee that's funny if the democrats were not invited, than how did tim bishop and steve levy know to show up to that event, and if i'm not mistaken, the democrat elected officials outnumbered the republican elected ones in attendance, and the only elected offical who spoke at the event was the democrat elected county executive steve levy, yeah sounds like it was a republican controlled event to me, get the facts before you spin your tale, and maybe if you were at pride night, you would have known this

WFSD Taxpayer
08-20-2004, 07:49 PM
If you go back and reread my previous post, I wrote that there were no Democratic elected officials mentioned on the flyer. And I wondered if they were even invited. I never wrote anthing about who actually showed up. Below is a copy of the flyer. Don't spin my words. Read the damn flyer.


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Flowers
08-20-2004, 11:09 PM
The reason that no Democratic elected official was mentioned in the flyer is because none of them responded to the invitation, therefore from what I understand, the Summit didn't know they were showing up. As for the signs, you are right about them and they should come down ASAP.
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MB Lover
08-21-2004, 01:50 AM
I am new to this site but noticed that WFSD Taxpayer seems to only have negative comments and then each time someone is able to refute them. What a waste of time to just spew hate about things that apparently they know nothing about.
Why would an organization list on a flyer people who didn't have the courtesty to answer an RSVP? Just because they are elected officials I don't think that you should just assume they are coming. If some officials know it is the correct thing to answer an invitation, then those should be the ones who are listed on a flyer. Why would you list people that you don't know are going to attend?
I think that whomever WFSD Taxpayer is, they better get a life and quit trying to make trouble!

MB RESIDENT
08-21-2004, 05:17 PM
mb lover sounds like another gop lackey

I think the William Floyd taxpayers have a right to know about the political goings on of the school board

And I think wf taxpayer and son of the beach are right on the nose about the summit

If nobody talks about whats going on then all of us get screwed

Keep on digging up the dirt wfsd taxpayer and son of the beach

Summit
08-22-2004, 08:57 AM
Isn't Fred Towle and his staff involved in the Summit.

Son of the Beach
08-22-2004, 06:55 PM
Fred Towle and the black hand of corruption has a stranglehold on the summit - it is their monster. The black hand of corruption has 5 fingers: Richie Hawkins, Vinny Pascale, Billy Doyle, Freddy Towle and Tony Liberti (funny how all their first names end in "y").

Towle's brother Danny (another "y" name) is President of the Brookhaven Town Young Republican Club....
AND....
Brookhaven Republican Chairman Eugene Gerrard appointed Danny Towle to the committee's Executive Committee - OUTRAGEOUS!
AND....
The Suffolk Young Republican Club, reinvigorated by Patricia Acampora and her staff, has named Danny Towle to its Board of Directors! ABSURD!

The Shirley community and the Republican party need to give the Towles a swift kick in the ass and boot them out of Brookhaven.

whocares
08-23-2004, 05:36 AM
here is a thought, if you guys are so convinced that the summit is corrupt and controlled by the local gop, how bout this, go to some meetings, join a committee, than run for a board of director seat or committee chairman seat, this way you can make the changes from within instead of sitting on the sidelines, making assumptions about how it is, and doing nothing to find out what it really is about or making changes to fix it, if you feel it is wrong, i guess the expression put up or shut up comes to mind here, this way if you are there and involved and trying to make a difference, you might get things done in a positive constructive manner, instead of a negative and destructive way by just lobbing out assults against many people who are there for the right reasons.

DDFCM
08-24-2004, 04:08 AM
August 24, 2004
One morning last October, the secretary to the William Floyd schools superintendent Richard Hawkins sent an e-mail invitation.

It read: "To: chairpersons, Rich is hosting an 'Educators for Romaine' cocktail reception tomorrow, October 15, at Ladakins from 6-9 p.m. The cost is $100/person and the rsvp number is 342-0400."





Suffolk County Clerk Edward Romaine was running on the Republican ticket for county executive, a race he lost to Democrat Steve Levy. The phone number on the e-mail was for his campaign headquarters. Campaign records show six school district administrators each made $100 contributions to Romaine at the time.

State law bars all government employees -- including school employees -- from soliciting or making political contributions from government offices.

"I'm surprised anybody would be dumb enough to do it on a school computer," said Jeffrey Stonecash, ethics professor at the Maxwell School of Political Science and Public Affairs at Syracuse University. "It puts people who were chosen because of their credentials and competence, and they're expected to contribute to a particular candidate because of their boss' whims. That's a pretty dangerous precedent."

The Suffolk district attorney's office is investigating finances at William Floyd as part of its wide-ranging probe into political corruption. "E-mails, documents and other materials are being reviewed by detectives in the economic crimes bureau," said Robert Clifford, the DA's spokesman.

The administrators who contributed either declined to comment or did not return calls and e-mails. Hawkins and Romaine also did not return phone calls.

Terry O'Neil, the school district's attorney, insisted Hawkins did not issue the invitation because the e-mail was sent by his secretary, Marianne D'Agata. D'Agata declined to comment.

The e-mail was sent out less than a month after the district attorney seized hundreds of financial records from the district in September of 2003.

Hawkins, 51, has been the district's superintendent since 1995. A registered Republican, he has contributed at least $4,000 to Suffolk County Republicans since 1997, according to records.

In May 2003, Hawkins attended a political fund-raising barbecue for Brookhaven Town Councilman Edward Hennessey with his wife, writing a $35 check to Citizens to Re-Elect Ed Hennessey. He submitted a $25 expense to the district and was reimbursed, according to school records.

"You can't reimburse for political contributions," said Lee Daghlian, spokesman for the state Elections Board. Not only is the donor breaking the law, but the district could be liable, he said.

O'Neil said it was not a political contribution, the district reimbursed him merely for the meal, and the $10 discrepancy was because Hawkins paid for his wife's meal personally.

Suffolk prosecutors have been investigating financial irregularities in the district since the arrest last year of former Legis. Fred Towle, a Shirley Republican who pleaded guilty to receiving a bribe. In June, prosecutors charged the district's former treasurer, James Wright, with grand larceny for allegedly stealing at least $700,000 in school funds. Wright has pleaded not guilty and like Towle, agreed to cooperate with prosecutors.

Hawkins' contract with the district pays him an annual salary of $174,023, plus $23,841 in benefits, according to a state Education Department Web site. He is also entitled to "reasonable expenses in discharge of his duties," including tickets for not-for-profit community benefits.

In 2003, the district reimbursed Hawkins for a charity dinner honoring state Sen. Kenneth LaValle, for school retirement dinners and for sponsoring a golf tee in a Catholic Church golf tournament, in addition to the Hennessey fund-raiser, according to records. The reimbursements totaled $400.

O'Neil said that attending the retirement dinners was part of Hawkins' official duties. "You expect him to pay for that?" he asked.
Copyright © 2004, Newsday, Inc.

wakeup
08-24-2004, 04:20 AM
This is how they do business in Crookhaven. It hasn't changed in years , no matter what scandal they find. Get used to it . It's sickening.

WFSD Taxpayer
08-24-2004, 06:38 AM
Sorry boys and girls, but I have to say it, "I TOLD YOU SO!"

Now can anybody, maybe FLOWERS, please explain why the William Floyd Scholarship Fund CANNOT be found in the New York State Department of State database?

Last time I checked, all scholarship funds had to be registered with the State.
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WFSD Taxpayer
08-24-2004, 04:11 PM
Very interesting. It has been over 9 hours since my last post, and the defenders of the William Floyd GOP have been noticeably silent. Could it be that all the folks who have been trashing my posts are part of the problem in the William Floyd School District?

FLOWERS, I am still waiting for an answer on the money that the Summit got from the Bay Area Civic Association treasury.

In case anybody doesn't know, there is a School Board Meeting tomorrow 8/25, at 7:00 PM in William Floyd. I think we all need to be there to find out what other political activities have been communicated using the school system computers. Maybe Rich Hawkins can tell us what he is going to do about his secretary's little email "transgression".

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whocares
08-24-2004, 04:54 PM
again, i must respond to you inaccurate information, the school board meeting was last night (8/23/04), tommorow night is a William Floyd Community Summit meeting, and I would suggest that you come down, join get involved and change from within all the problems that you perceive instead of providing bad information on these boards, i am posting once again to see if you and the others will get actively involved to help bring about positive change, or are you going to continue to fills these boards with incorrect information and sit on the sidelines and do nothing execpt complain...as a piece of advice for the future check the school calender they will tell you when the school board meetings are, and they have always been on mondays to my knowledge and have always started at 8pm not 7pm.

WFSD Taxpayer
08-24-2004, 05:26 PM
Oops... My bad. I meant to write Summit meeting, but wrote School Board meeting.
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whocares
08-25-2004, 04:32 AM
no problem, but i do sincerely hope that you do come down, ask questions and get involved to bring about positive change, no matter what you view politcally, improving the quality of life our community is not something political, its essential

Flowers
08-25-2004, 04:57 AM
To WFSD Taxpayer:
Sorry I have been sick and therefore couldnt respond to your allegations. I have spoken to some of the Summit's board of directors and they laughed so hard at your comments because you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. The Summit would have no idea why the Scholarship funds are not listed with the state because the Summit has nothing to do with the school other than the superintendent and president of the board being members. But so are the head of many other community organization, churches, library and just ordinary citizens. Why don't you try spending your time doing something worthwhile instead of slamming an organization that is only trying to do good for the community, unlike you.

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Son of the Beach
08-25-2004, 10:41 AM
To poster FLOWERS:

Once again, you are lying when you say that the summit is not part of the school district. STOP LYING!

To repeat:
----------------------------------------------------
To poster Flowers:

I must correct you. The Wm Floyd Summit has ALWAYS been an arm of the Wm Floyd School District since its inception.

Maybe you were not around at the beginning, but I was. I remember how it got started and how a group came to the community with an idea for a summit modeled on a program in use in other school districts.

The summit was structured around and made part of the Wm Floyd School District, with school administrators and the school board being a major part of the group.
The summit has no website of its own -- it is on the Wm Floyd School District webpage and listed as district endeavor.

Why else do you think that the summit claims to work for the hamlet of Moriches, in addition to Mastic, Mastic Beach and Shirley. Duh - because Moriches is part of the Wm Floyd School District. Otherwise, Moriches is completely separate and distinct from the Tri-Hamlet area.

Many people in our community (and outside it) think that the summit is highly political. Because of this, it is in danger of not being taken seriously - in fact, it is probably too late.

The fact that the "dream team" (joke) of Hawkins/Pascale/Doyle are running the show at the summit (regardless of who is the titular Pres.) shows exactly what people think of when they think of the summit. No wonder the summit zipped its lips and sat on its hands in wake of the recent corruption scandal at the district.

whocares
08-25-2004, 06:12 PM
once again, i would extend an invite to you to come down to the summit meetings, join as a member since membership is open to every community resident, and get involved and the change the ills that you perceive are there instead of sitting on the sidelines and not taking a proactive approach, i have yet to hear a response from anyone who is willing to do that, i respect your opinion even if i dont agree with it, but i would have more respect for someone being proactive to bring about change for the improvement of the community

summit friend
08-26-2004, 05:29 AM
To Son of the Beach: You have no idea what you are talking about in regards to the Summit and the School District. You could not be farther from the truth in your allegations about the two organizations. They are separate and indepedent groups. Yes, there are a couple of members of the School District who are members of the Summit but they control NOTHING in the Summit. As a matter of fact, Rich Hawkins, does not even get a vote on the board of directors. I would suggest if you were involved in the Summit in the beginning, maybe you should come back and see what is being done and how it is helping the community, no thanks to you!

whocares
08-26-2004, 03:48 PM
how those who are quick to criticize and complain are silent when being offered an opportunity to be part of the solution?????????????????????????

WFSD Taxpayer
08-26-2004, 04:13 PM
If the solution includes ousting the entire current School Board, Summit Board, Library Board Superintendent of Schools and his front office republican lapdogs, tell me where to sign up.
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Miss Brooks
08-26-2004, 04:37 PM
Good Luck!! This is CROOKHAVEN, remember? A cesspool of political corruption.

Observer
08-27-2004, 06:10 AM
The problem with the William Floyd community is that its activists are highly politicized. I don't mean to deny that we've been hurt by some real crooks (Towle, Wright). But I'm willing to believe that they're in the minority, at least until more of our "public servants" are indicted. What I find really troubling--because it's taken for granted by so many--is the extent to which narrowly partisan politics has been allowed to taint community service. Hawkins, for example, seems to believe that because Republicans are in the majority, it's ok for him to use his office to further Republican causes or help Republican cronies. People like Doyle can talk until the cows come home about how much good they're doing (and I have no doubt they're sincere), but until they show a little more self-awareness about how their actions appear to people who don't share their partisan agenda, they continue to perpetuate the poisonous atmosphere around here. The problem isn't so much greed; it's ignorance.

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Mrham
08-28-2004, 04:31 AM
The summit is full of whining conniving loosers. All they care about is themselves. open your eyes people. What has the summit done for this community. Summit who? Summit what? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA another joke of a civic group. Look at the people who are on it. Oh politics isn't evolved. Bullshit Tom Spota here he comes!
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Summit Fan
08-28-2004, 12:18 PM
I have no idea who you are but I must say you have no idea what you are talking about. I have been a member of the Summit from the beginning and work with the most active committee in the Summit. We have planted numerous gardens and maintain several others that they town and county planted and don't take care of. There are many things the Summit does, for instance they ran a summer youth program, the new codes in the Town would never have been thought of if not for the Summit along with the Chamber of Commerce and their visioning process that is bringing about all the wonderful changes to Montauk Hwy. There are many other things the Summit does having to do with cultural arts, history and many other projects. They will be opening a visitors center shortly to help bring tourist to our community. So as you see the Summit is doing a great deal to better the community. Maybe instead of complaining you should learn about what it is and join up and try to help make things better instead of just complaing and speading lies.

Flowers
08-28-2004, 02:25 PM
Mrham & WFSD Taxpayer: you are just nuts--- why don't you come out and try weeding with us when it is 90 degrees and picking up the garbage that people throw away and then say we only care about ourselves? We take care of your community for you--- I don't see you or any of these other complainers out doing anything to make the community better. Maybe that is why you are so anti-Summit, you are jealous because this group is doing something positive for the community and you are not!!!
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MB
08-28-2004, 03:11 PM
Does anybody know why there was a school board meeting at 8:00 this morning?

When was the meeting announced? Didn'y they just have the regular meeting this past Monday?

This whole thing doesn't sound kosher.

WFSD Taxpayer
08-30-2004, 10:41 AM
I don't know what was going on Saturday morning, but I am curious to find out the name of the criminal attorney that Rich Hawkins has retained. Any clues?
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PonderThis
08-30-2004, 01:38 PM
Crookhaven politicians have used John Ray. As defense, he says his clients are just following what has always been done in the town.

I dont care either
09-01-2004, 12:40 AM
I understand that at the last school board meeting there were about 5 community residents in attendance. So much for concern about what is going on! That is the problem in this community, people yell and scream for a minute and then forget about everything. People are just to apathetic to be involved in anything. I guess that WFSD Taxpayer and they others were unable to rally people to the cause of ousting the board and the superintendent. If they were able to get people on their side, the board room should have been filled with outraged residents. So much for your plans to create chaos.

Mel
09-01-2004, 04:30 AM
Too bad Janet WIndbish left the William Floyd Elementary School...
She really made a difference in our childrens education

floyd mom
09-01-2004, 01:06 PM
I thought Ms. Windbish was an excellent leader until I heard somethings about a week ago when I made that statement at a party. Her resignation was due to her handling of some "problems" in the school. If what I heard was right - I'm glad she and AP decided to step down. Anyone know the real story behind her resignation?

Bill
09-08-2004, 01:38 AM
I understand Ms. Windbish is now a principle in Hicksville. Our loss their Gain
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Hummel
09-24-2004, 01:55 AM
When is Hawkins resigning?

MB RES
09-24-2004, 06:56 AM
I don't think he will be resigning. Nothing at this point has lead to a reason for him to resign.

WFSD Taxpayer
09-25-2004, 04:15 PM
MB RES wrote, "Nothing at this point has lead to a reason for him to resign." OK, how about breaking the law by using the schools computers for partisan political email. And what's really scary is that Vinnie Pascale doesn't see a problem with it!

Yeah that's right. The president of the William Floyd School Board doesn't see any problem with the Superintendent of Schools breaking the law.

I don't know if these clowns are incredibly arrogant, or just plain stupid. Either way, they have to go.

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The Poster Above is Lying
09-25-2004, 06:44 PM
So Rich's secretary took it upon herself to send the email?????????

What about the copies of the email that were handed out to PTO members????? Maybe Rich's secretary printed it out at home????? Then maybe she took it to Kinkos on her own time and cost to make the copies???? Then maybe she stood outside of school property on her own time and handed the copies out to the PTO??????

Blaming his secretary is like Nixon blaming Liddy for Watergate.

GET REAL!!!!!!!!!!

Dennis F
09-25-2004, 07:29 PM

Wm Summit
10-14-2004, 03:26 PM
There's a community summit rally on Friday night 7pm at the High School - everyone should go to see what they are really about!

Flowers
10-15-2004, 03:37 AM
Thank you for mentioning the rally. We have worked very hard to improve our community and this is a showcase of the Summit and many community organizations. There will also be a Children's Expo with a lot of activities for the kids.
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Wondering
10-15-2004, 09:31 AM
What activities?

Lemme guess:

The ABCs of Embezzlement - How to skim the Class
Trip Fundraising Account and not get caught

Political Cronyism - How to swing a Class
President Election

Practical Computer Skills - How to send
untracable email from school computers

Did I miss any?
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Flowers
10-16-2004, 02:15 AM
To Wondering:
You are certainly showing your ignorance regarding the Summit. We don't teach any classes on anything since we have nothing to do with the schools other than having a couple of member of the school system as members. We also have member from almost every community organization, church, library,etc. So maybe you should have come to the rally instead of just spouting off -- you would have learned about the work we do in beautification, youth services, cultural arts, history, quality of life issues and the revitilization of Montauk Hwy. Educate yourself before you speak so you don't sound like a complete idiot next time you post anything.
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newcomer
10-16-2004, 12:57 PM
I recently moved to the area and saw an ad about a community rally so my family went. What a wonderful group the Summit is. They seem to be very caring and concerned about the community and are trying to make it better. I was impressed with their president and I could tell she loves this community a lot. I was also impressed with how many politicians came out to support the Summit on such a miserable night. I think this is a group that is going to do a lot for the community and we should all try to help them.

shirley home owner
10-22-2004, 12:35 PM
WOW! THE MORE I GET INVOLVED IN THIS COMMUNITY THE MORE CORRUPTION I SEE AND HEAR ABOUT. IT IS SO OUT OF CONTROL I WONDER IF WE CAN EVER FIX IT. WHEN MY CHILDREN WERE YOUNG THERE WAS NO TIME TO GET INVOLVED. IT TOOK ALL OUR TIME TO KEEP OUR HEADS ABOVE WATER. NOW THAT THE KIDS ARE GROWN WE'VE BOTH BECOME INVOLVED IN VARIOUS VOLUNTEER AGENCIES. NOT NECESSARILY INVOLVING THE SCHOOL. THERE IS CORRUPTION EVERYWHERE YOU TURN. WHERE ARE THE CHECKS AND BALANCES? IT SEEMS LIKE THE AGENCIES THAT ARE PAID TO OVERSEE OUR TAX DOLLARS HAVE FAILED. WHAT CAN WE DO? THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT IS MUCH BIGGER THAN A FEW TAXPAYERS CAN HANDLE. EVERYWHERE YOU TURN PEOPLE ARE LINING THEIR POCKETS AND BREAKING THE RULES. WHAT HAPPENED TO INTEGRITY. ROLE MODELS ARE BECOMING FEWER AND FEWER FOR KIDS. ALMOST EVERYWHERE THEY LOOK THIS BEHAVIOR IS PLAIN AS DAY FOR THEM TO SEE. THEY NEVER SEE PEOPLE GETTING PUNISHED FOR THERE WRONGS AS A MATTER OF FACT THEY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE BIGGER HOUSE WITH THE NICER CARS. I AM JUST DISGUSTED.

newcomer
10-23-2004, 12:51 AM
I am new to this community and am unaware of the issues you are bringing up. Please be specific in your allegations. I would like to know exactly what you are talking about. You make very serious charges and I wonder if they are just rumors or if you can back up your allegations.

Mastic Beach
10-23-2004, 08:56 AM
Newcomer, it is very apparent from your comments that you are no newcomer to the Wm Floyd area and/or the endemic cronyism and corruption. Your posts serve only as a transparent attempt to discredit those who are fed up with the Wm Floyd branch of the Crookhaven Republican Party.

DA Spota did not get two separate search warrants for the District based on unfounded allegations. The email that Rich Hawkin's Secretary sent out wasn't a fluke. It was one of many political activities that occur in the district on a regular basis. Only this time they got caught.

Two years ago, at the Community Rally held by the Wm Floyd Community Summit, School Board President Pascale told all of the Democratic candidates that they had to leave. All of the candidates were invited by the Summit. Pascale insisted that the Rally was not a "political" event. However, he did not order any of the Republicans to leave. Only intervention by Ed Romaine kept the situation from escalating.

These folks in Wm Floyd have had their hands in the cookie jar for too long.

It’s now time to pay the piper.

Flowers
10-24-2004, 03:39 AM
To Mastic Beach:
It is amazing how you try to skew information. I,too, was the the community rally you are refering to. You allegation is only partially true. What happened was that the Democratic candidates were openly campainging after being asked not to. The Republican candidates were also asked not to campaign and they did not. Each group was invited to have any campaign literature put out onto tables so that the public could take it but not to campaign openly. After being asked to stop the campaiging several times, and some of the candidates getting quite nasty by the way, Mr. Pascale stepped in because he is the school board president and campaigning is not supposed to occur in the schools. The Summit is not-political and therefore didn't want either party campaigning. Please get your facts straight next time and quite trying to smear the name of the Summit which has no agenda other than improving the community. And by the way, they are doing a really good job, no thanks to you!
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East End Guy
11-20-2004, 11:07 AM
Good Teachers, Good Principals, Kids are Kids... So what is the problem?

I think you know

Mrham
12-07-2004, 06:44 AM
when are they going to jail i cant wait i want to throw a party
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hide
12-11-2004, 09:38 AM
the DA is probably using the super and business manager to catch a few more crooks and find out where the other millions have gone! stay tuned - announcemnt should come out very shortly!!

MB RES
12-13-2004, 12:54 PM
I have heard that something big is happening tonight at the school board meeting. Anyone know anything?

justice
12-15-2004, 08:38 AM
Was James Wright sentenced yesterday? His case is off the calendar. Anybody know?

mastic beacher
12-30-2004, 07:20 PM
Was anybody at the Town Board meeting when LaValle caught Beth Wahl trying to play dumb about the down-zoning?

Montauk Hwy. Lover
12-31-2004, 08:09 AM
To Mastic Beacher:
I am on the Montauk Hwy. Committee with Beth Wahl and you could not be further from the truth. At no time was anyone on our committee told anything about the possibility of property being lowered in value. The truth is that John LaValle is using this issue as a political tool against Ed Hennessey and it is a shame that we are being caught up in this game. I hope that all the politicians will just do the right thing and leave their personal games out of this issue. Beth and the rest of us did nothing wrong and have only tried to help. Our committee didn't do the planning for the zoning that was done by the Town, we didn't write the new codes, that also was done by the Town, so before you try to ruin the reputation of someone who is working hard for this community, look to the Town to put the blame and leave our committee out of it.

WFSD Taxpayer Too
01-19-2005, 01:08 AM
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one's gone and another one's gone
Another one bites the dust

First Wright, then Cifonelli. Who's next, Hawkins, Pascale?

SH1245
01-19-2005, 08:02 AM
It is now time for the school board to be honest and admit their part in this whole mess. They are the ones who hired Mr. Ciffinello even though they knew that he shouldn't have been hired the way he was. How many others have they also done this with? I think that the board must step down, with the exception of Mr. Vecchio and Mrs. Doyle. They were not part of the board when these things occured. Mr. Hawkins also must step down. Mr. Ciffinello was a personal friend of his and he overlooked things to benefit a friend.

SH1245
01-20-2005, 07:08 PM
I just saw the DA on News 12 and he said that more arrests will be forthcoming. They are looking very closely at how contracts are awarded, etc. I am so suprised that I haven't heard more of an out cry from the public about the Superintendent and the School Board. They need to go and they need to go now :!: :!: :!:

01-20-2005, 09:17 PM
Get to the board meetings and demand answers. Enough is enough. Pity us, poor working slobs of William Floyd. We pay and pay and pay . Nothing for our kids!! Everything for the thieves!!!

01-22-2005, 03:09 PM
Leave the hostility at home if you are sincere. Time to treat the wounds and heal the patient.

SH1245
01-22-2005, 03:25 PM
I agree we need to heal the wounds but how do you do that? As far as I am concerned there is only one way, the people responsible for a lot of the mistakes have to step up, admit what they did and then resign. That means the board members that were in place in 1998 as well as the superintendent. they all knew what was going on and chose to look the other way because they were friends with the person involved. the only way healing can occur is if we start with a new slate, so that people will have confidence in the school district again.

millions
01-22-2005, 09:25 PM
1998........ the people in the william floyd school district have been stealing for 30 years!!!!!!!!!! wayne williams, nick poulis, rich hawkins, vinny pascale..... the list goes on... they all need to be locked up. its a shame that our hard earned money is getting stolen by the millions!!! millions!!!!!!!!!!!! instead of going to the children!!!!!!!!!!!!! :twisted:

SH1245
01-23-2005, 06:46 PM
You are right that the lies and deception have been going on for years but we can only deal with the board and superintendent that are in office now. They must be held accountable for what has occured on their watch. They must be the right and honorable thing and resign and allow this district to move forward with honest members of the board of education and admistration.

01-27-2005, 10:15 PM
The sad thing in William Floyd is that so few taxpayers seem outraged. They should be storming the board meetings and they are not. Spota is not finished with Floyd. Stay tuned.

01-30-2005, 12:40 AM
we pay the highest taxes in the conutry and where is it going
not to are kids

SH1245
01-30-2005, 09:40 AM
I really doubt that we pay the highest taxes in the county. My question is who on the school board or the adminstration is going to stand up, admit what they did and take the hit for it.? I don't think that is was criminal however they certainly lacked leadership and failed to do the things that a school board and adminstration should have done and someone needs to be held accountable. They just can't keep glossing over the facts by saying they are cooperating with the DA. That doesn't cut it anymore with the community.

SH1245
02-07-2005, 07:22 AM
Please note that the board meeting has been changed from 2/7 to 2/8. The listing in Newsday yesterday was wrong. Make sure to attend the meeting and try to get some straight answers to a host of questions.

mas resident
02-07-2005, 10:54 PM
Why was the William Floyd School Board meeting postponed today? Word now is that the meeting will be tomorrow night at 8.

Tony Tickets copped a plea today. Any connection?????????

guest1
02-08-2005, 09:44 PM
I heard today that a couple of people from the William Floyd School Distict or the school board were arrested today. Any truth to that ?

batmen
02-10-2005, 08:28 AM
what a joke

02-10-2005, 12:09 PM
A William Floyd board member was arrested on January 31 for an incident unrelated to school business. See article in today's Newsday. Appears to be more to this story than meets the eye. Anyone know?

justice4all
02-10-2005, 12:59 PM
Has Tony Liberti's real estate license been suspended since his arrest?

fed up in Mastic
02-10-2005, 08:02 PM
How many more William Floyd employees and Board members need to be indicted/arrested/investigated before the people in the district wake up? The treasurer has been arrested for stealing. The former deputy superintendent has been arrested for stealing. A board member has been arrested for filing false documents and the Superintendent has sent out political mailings using school computers. What the hell is wrong with the people in Mastic/Mastic Beach/Shirley?????

When school board elections come around this year - THROW EVERY ONE OF THEM OUT!

SH1245
02-11-2005, 07:10 AM
You do not have the option of voting out the entire school board in May. There are only 2 seats up for reelection in May and those are the only 2 you will be able to vote on.

02-11-2005, 11:22 AM
Floyd is just like Crookhaven!! Year after year the politicians get indicted AND convicted. The voters never get them out. Sickening!!!

More of the same
02-19-2005, 02:47 PM
On February 10 the William Floyd District claimed on its website that Anthony Liberti's arrest "was not related in any way to Mr. Liberti's duties and responsibilities as a William Floyd board member."

"Not related in any way"? Are the William Floyd School District authorities serious? Don't charges of tax evasion, if true, relate to Mr. Liberti's character and competence as an elected official?

Sounds like Hawkins et al. continue to believe that they can say and do anything, and the members of the William Floyd Community will just go along. Why is that?

02-20-2005, 09:43 PM
On February 10 the William Floyd District claimed on its website that Anthony Liberti's arrest "was not related in any way to Mr. Liberti's duties and responsibilities as a William Floyd board member."

"Not related in any way"? Are the William Floyd School District authorities serious? Don't charges of tax evasion, if true, relate to Mr. Liberti's character and competence as an elected official?

Sounds like Hawkins et al. continue to believe that they can say and do anything, and the members of the William Floyd Community will just go along. Why is that?

Isnt he being ivestigated

More of the same
02-21-2005, 09:02 AM
The point is that by viewing Liberti's arrest in the narrowest possible terms ("not related in [i]"), the school district continues to create the appearance that its officers are above the law. It would have been better had they said nothing until the "investigation" is complete and the case resolved. If his arrest is irrelevant, so is the district's announcement.

Will the district continue to tell the voters that Liberti's conduct is irrelevant if he cops a plea?

WF Res
02-21-2005, 02:45 PM
These non related charges for Liberiti are irreleveant to the school if he decides not to run for re-election this year which I seriously doubt he will.

And for the genius who says throw them all out, it doesn't WORK THAT WAY, only two seats are up this year. The best situation that will keep from chaos in the school is for those on the board responsible to simply run out their terms and walk away, and let new people come up. Hopefully we'll get real candidates this time, and no local undeserving nut gets on the board in this crisis, due to lack of anyother choice. That's the last thing we need.

More of the same
02-21-2005, 02:57 PM
I agree. But the school district (i.e. Hawkins) might improve its chances of getting decent people on the board if it spent less of its time on damage control. Creating the appearance of stonewalling helps only those who are corrupt.

SH1245
02-21-2005, 04:10 PM
I think what needs to be done is to have Hawkins and the school board finally admit that they have made some poor management choices and mishandled cetain things. I think if they would admit some wrong doing it would be a step in the right direction.

J. Edgar Hoover
03-10-2005, 09:44 PM
What have the Feds been doing at the Wm Floyd School District for the last couple of weeks, besides confiscating the district office shredder?

03-11-2005, 11:10 AM
It's not the Feds, its the County DA's office. The feds' would of either found something by now or moved on.

03-12-2005, 11:57 AM
How does Hawkins hold on?

SH1245
03-12-2005, 04:12 PM
Could it be that he "is hanging on" because he has done nothing criminal? If the DA had something to charge him with I am sure he would have done it by now.

03-13-2005, 02:06 PM
In the Armed Forces, regardless of who individually is responsible for a problem, the person in charge (commanding officer) is always ultimatly held accountable. Prehaps there is a lesson to be learned.

03-13-2005, 06:30 PM
Well guess what in the American Justice System you have to actually break the law to be convicting of a crime. He is responsible for managing those under him and should take responsibility, but if he didn't break the law he shouldn't be guilty of a crime.

tick...tick...tick...
03-16-2005, 10:06 PM
Make note of the Bernie Ebbers conviction Mr. Hawkins. The guys at the top can't plead ignorance of the crimes of their underlings anymore.

SH1245
03-17-2005, 01:43 PM
Has anyone heard any names of who might be running for the 2 school board positions this year.

MB1
03-17-2005, 11:16 PM
No names yet. Is Liberti up this year? I hope so. We don't need felons on the school board.

More of the same
03-18-2005, 02:34 PM
That's quite a recommendation: Hawkins hasn't been charged with any criminal wrongdoing! Great. Is he the best we can do? Hawkins and his cronies have politicized the Wm Floyd school administration, and the Summit. Is it any wonder why so many Floyd residents are deeply alienated by their actions? Jobs for out-of-work political operatives, fund raising letters on school district computers! The irony is that all these do-gooders have done is turned themselves into a bad joke.

Where are we with respect to on-going investigations? Anyone know?

BofE
03-18-2005, 04:18 PM
Jeananne Dawson and Tony Liberti are up for re-election this year. Tony Liberti isn't running.

taxed
03-23-2005, 06:05 PM
Why did the board have a special meeting last friday morning? And why wasn't the media notified?

Friends of John
03-24-2005, 12:24 AM
Sorry, but this has nothing to do with politics.

The Suffolk County Athletic Directors are hosting a golf outing to aid the recovery of retired Athletic Director John Pidgeon.

It will be held @ Middle Island CC on April 25th. See AD Mark Mensch for details. This is a great cause for a bright spot in the district.

Support Pidge :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

inquiring_minds
03-24-2005, 01:24 PM
What's the deal with the falling out between Jean Dawson and Tony Liberti? She suddenly quit working working at his Real Estate agency after being there for years, and now there is talk she won't run for re-election either.

SH1245
03-24-2005, 02:34 PM
I guess the community isn't as outraged as they claim -- I hear that only a couple of petitions have been picked up for the school board seats that are up for reelection.

More of the same
03-25-2005, 11:48 AM
You get what you deserve, right?

If most people become apathetic and don't hold politicians accountable, then people with their own selfish agendas can do what they like and get away with it. Isn't that what has happened in the William Floyd district?

Either things aren't that bad and there's no need to shake things up (which is what the establishment types would have us believe), or people are really alienated and could care less. Which is it?

how hight
04-02-2005, 08:57 AM
how high :oops:

wf voter
04-05-2005, 10:49 PM
Who is running for Liberti's seat? The only name I've heard is Carmine Notaro but there are at least 2 others?

What has Carmine ever done besides run the Republican club?

That's just what this district needs:x. Another Crookhaven GOP lackey on the Wm Floyd school board.

guest 10385
04-06-2005, 07:06 AM
I agree that Carmine Notaro has no business running for the school board. He has never been involved or attended a school board meeting that I am aware of. I believe he is just trying to get his name out in the public because there is talk of his possibly running for Ed Hennessey's seat on the Town Council. Not a valid reason to want to be on the school board, Carmine.
There is also some big mouth woman running named Susan Stein or something like that. Then there is a Dr. Fred Miller, who seems to be the most likely candidate.

concerned wf voter 2
04-06-2005, 11:43 AM
What are Millers credentials? Don't let his being a pastor fool you! He's a puppet for Vinny Pascale, Bill Guidice and Rich Hawkins the most corrupt people on the board who want to have a majority on there side so that they can continue to over spend, over tax and not be accountable for their incompetent doings over the past years! Follow the dollar! See who is really supporting Mr. Miller and you will see that the other candidates are good choices because they are both honest, hard working and independent thinkers of our community that do not owe anyone!! They are concerned taxpayers that are not afraid to question the powers that be!

guest 10385
04-06-2005, 12:07 PM
I would not call Carmine an independent thinker. He has been a backer of Fred Towle's and still is a supporter of his. I would be very concerned about having someone on the board who thinks Fred is ok. Fred Towle is a great manipulator and I am worried that Carmine will listen to Fred's advice as he has many times in the past.

Line in the Sand
04-06-2005, 09:33 PM
The time to sweep every vestige of the Crookhaven GOP from the William Floyd School District is NOW!

Several days ago, a potential candidate for the William Floyd School Board was collecting signatures outside the Library in Shirley. One of the Library employees came out and told her that she had to leave, that she was soliciting in violation of Library rules. THE LIBRARY IS PUBLIC PROPERTY. FIRST CROOKHAVEN GOP CRIME!

This morning, School District employees told that same potential candidate that her petitions were going to be invalidated because the candidate's name on the petitions wasn't the same as the candiate's name as recorded with the Suffolk County Board of elections. SECOND CROOKHAVEN GOP CRIME!

The potential candidate later returned to the District Office, after visiting the Board of Elections to get her registered name matched with the petition name, and was then told that her name on the petitions didn't match the name on her NYS Driver's License, and that the District Office wanted to see a matching name on a Social Security Card. THIRD CROOKHAVEN GOP CRIME!

While again collecting signatures outside the Library today, at the same time Republican Club President Carime Notaro was collecting signatures, the potential candidate was again told to leave. When she confronted Bill Doyle, he told her that she had to leave. She asked him if he was going to ask Carmine to leave and he said no. FOURTH CROOKHAVEN GOP CRIME!

What is it going to take to get these GOP sleaze out of our school district? School District elections are supposed to be non-partisan. Everywhere else, non-partisan means "Based on, influenced by, affiliated with, or supporting the interests or policies of NO SINGLE POLITICAL PARTY".

In William Floyd, non-partisan apparently means, if you're not a Republican partisan, then you're not going to run for School Board.

whatthe
04-06-2005, 11:10 PM
first, legal names have to appear on a petition to be valid, when this candidate went to the board of elections, why didn't the candidate make sure the name registered with the boe was the same as their driver's license? how many names does the candidate have anyway to cause the confusion?

second, if she is campaigning outside the library, and library staff, and a library trustee told her to leave, how is this the school districts problem, the library is a seperate municipality. if someone else was allowed to do the same thing and not this person, take it up with the library board, or the library's director

third, school board petitions don't usually require alot of signatures, between friends and neighbors the candidate should meet the requirement easily to get their name on the ballot

guest 10385
04-07-2005, 06:13 AM
If what you are alleging is true, then you should be taking this up with the Library Director, the Library Board and the School Board. Bill Doyle has got to stop allowing his politics to interfer with other things. Carmine Notaro is his GOP buddy and if he really allowed Carmine to gather signature and not another candidate then something should be done. Perhaps he needs to be removed from the library board for overstepping his bounds. Even if Bill thought the other petition wasn't valid, that is not his call since he is not on the school board. I know he thinks he is because his wife is a member of the board. Keep politics where it belongs and it is not at the library or the schools.

CARMINE A. NOTARO
04-07-2005, 11:23 PM
FIRST, I HAVE AS MUCH RIGHT TO RUN FOR SCHOOL BOARD AS ANY OTHER CONCERNED TAXPAYER IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SECOND, I HAVE COORDINATED MANY COMMUNITY EVENTS SUCH AS TOY DRIVES, FOOD DRIVES FOR THE LOCAL PANTRY, SUPPORT THE TROOPS DRIVE WHICH WE SENT 48 BOXES OF SUPPLIES TO IRAQ AND ARE NOW WORKING ON A SECOND SUPPORT THE TROOPS DRIVE, HELPED FAMILIES IN NEED DURING THE COLD WINTER MONTHS. I HELPED RAISE MONEY TO PURCHASE A COMPUTER FOR A DISABLED CHILD AND MUCH MORE. WHAT HAVE ANY OF YOU DONE???.... OH I GET IT, YOU ARE SELF PROCLAIMED CRITICS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO HIDE BEHIND AN ALIAS BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE GUTS TO COME OUT FRONT AND DO SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR YOUR COMMUNITY!

THIRD, I HAVE NEVER BEEN AT THE LIBRARY COLLECTING SIGNATURES FOR MY PETITIONS. THAT IS A COMPLETE FABRICATION!!

DO NOTHING COWARDS HIDING UNDER FICTICIOUS NAMES, SPREADING LIES!

I HAVE TOTAL RESPECT FOR ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS WHO GIVE SO MUCH OF THEIR TIME CARING FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND SPENDING SO MUCH TIME AWAY FROM THERE FAMILIES AND FRIENDS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I HAVE TOTAL RESPECT TO ALL OF THE VOLUNTEERS TRYING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND THAT CLEAN UP OUR COMMUNITY AND PLANT BEAUTIFUL FLOWERS AT DEDICATED AREAS.

I HAVE TOTAL RESPECT FOR EVERYONE THAT DEDICATES HIS OR HER TIME TO HELP PEOPLE IN NEED.

I HAVE TOTAL RESPECT FORSOMEONE STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE AND WANTING TO HELP.

I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR A BUNCH OF MISERABLE MALCONTENTS THAT DEDICATE THEIR LIVES TRYING TO DISCREDIT GOOD HARD WORKING PEOPLE, AND TELL LIES SO THAT THEY CAN FEEL IMPORTANT AND TO WHOS ONLY PURPOSE IN LIFE IS TO SIT AND JUDGE OTHERS.I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THEM JUST SYMPATHY…..

CARMINE A. NOTARO

guest 995
04-08-2005, 08:23 AM
I applaud your community work and interest in community service. However I personally feel that whomever wins the board seat should be someone who has knowledge of the schools and their workings. Also, you failed to discuss the most important question concerning you and that is your involvement with Fred Towle. That leaves a huge question in the minds of many. How can someone who is community minded have a relationship with an admited felon who stole from this community?

04-08-2005, 05:20 PM
To be fair the amount of people who had a relationship with Fred Towle could fill the High School. He pulled the wool over a lot of peoples eyes and only cared about himself. Towle won by huge margins so it's not hard to believe he was a good manipulator and that includes people who considered him friend or associate.

As for the allegations Bill Cicola is the Library Director, has the same name as Bill Doyle and it is he who handles these things. Bill Doyle like everyone else has a job and doubtful spends his day in front of the library looking for Sue Steinmen, who obviously posted this. This whole thing was probably a confusion of the Name Bill, Mr. Cicola was probaby doing his job and he spends his days at the library.

JEP
04-08-2005, 07:31 PM
As Carmine Notaro's counterpart in the local Democratic club, I must strongly agree with Mr. Notaro in that he does have as much right to run for the School Board as anyone else. He is a resident of the William Floyd School District and that alone ensures his eligibility.

Many people have been elected to school boards all over Long Island, with no prior significant involvement in their districts and have become effective members of those boards. I and many other residents of the district, applaud anyone willing to make the effort at running.

I would also at this time like to clear up a misstatement by another person who a commented here. Susan Steinmann has posted nothing on the message board, and until last night did not even know there was a discussion of the William Floyd School Board elections on any message board. I know this because I was standing next to Susan last evening when someone else informed her of the existence of this forum.

Lets us all keep this about the kids, and not about politics.

Jim Pearsall
President DC 6 Democratic Club

JIM_PEARSALL
04-08-2005, 07:43 PM
To the Administrator of this Forum,

My previous post was altered by your system such that my last name was stricken, and replaced with "Not Allowed". Please correct this. Thank you.

JIM_PEARSALL

04-08-2005, 08:21 PM
Fair enough, but whoever did make the post was most likely referring to Ms. Steinmen as the supposed victim while making blatant accusations. If she finds out who it is she would be best advised to calm this person down.

guest1
04-12-2005, 10:50 PM
Bill Doyle............Don't even get me started !

guest1
04-12-2005, 10:53 PM
Bill Doyle.........we could have a topic page just for him.

guest1
04-16-2005, 11:30 PM
BUMP

PO'd Taxpayer
04-25-2005, 10:32 AM
I see the district is busy putting up phony posts about the budget already. DON'T BELIEVE A WORD OF THEIR NONSENSE! These people are pathetic, masquerading as employees, and claiming a NO vote for the budget will hurt the community.

When the Board members responsible for the approval of Ciffonelli's illegal contract resign, then and only then should we consider approving any budget they present. Until then, everyone should vote NO on the William Floyd budget, and vote to toss out the current board member who is running for re-election.

SEND A LOUD MESSAGE TO THE WILLIAM FLOYD SCHOOL BOARD.

NO RE-ELECTION - NO BUDGET APPROVAL

guest 10385
04-25-2005, 01:25 PM
I agree that the community should be outraged at what has occured in our district but not passing the budget is not the answer. All that will accomplish is the cutting of programs and more expense for families. If you want to change things you have to change the board, this year you have one opportunity to get rid of an existing board member. That shows the district that you are not happy with how they have operated in the past. Each year, we have to opportunity to get rid of existing members and that should be the focus and not hurting the kids by taking away the programs that they need.

Guest41
04-30-2005, 03:00 AM
To all,

I have spent about an hour and a half reading the postings, I would say from June 2004 through April 12, 2005. Everyone is obviously upset about everything that went on in this disrtict, but...
If you do not know all of the facts, innocent people are going to get hurt (either reputable or emotional).
Yes taxes are way too high, lord knows my family will be struggling terribly if our budget is passed. The way it sounds through out the whole island I do not think anyones budget will pass this year.
I think people need to start focusing on the good in this community. We have a school district and board that is dedicated to this community. I dont know about 'you' but I'm very involved in the schools and the community and every meeting I attend Rich Hawkins is there (and so are board members). Did you ever wonder when this man gets to go home to his family??? Hmmmm! No one really does because everyone is to busy making accusations instead of getting involved and helping. Oh!! Yes, you have to VOLUNTEER. Yes that means WITHOUT PAY. Oh that is why you aren't there?
Come on people, we have a great community and very dedicated people. Just because two people were caught with their hands in the cookie jar does not mean everyone else is doing the same. Go to the meetings and you would have found out that most of the money has been returned.
Let's stop pointing fingers and hurting people and let's get involved in the community and make it even better for our children.
The budget vote... that is why it is called a vote. Vote what you want.

guest 10385
04-30-2005, 08:30 AM
I think some of the points that you make are accurate. Yes, Rich Hawkins and members of the board are very involved in our community and that is a great thing for us. However, you are missing the most important point, I think. Yes, two people stole money from the district and yes it was returned but the fact is that it happened on the board and Mr. Hawkins watch. At the very least they a guilty of not running their business, and the school is a huge business, correctly. They were not paying attention to what was going on and looking the other way when it concerned friends and former employees. That is inexcusable. The other major fact is that at no time has anyone member of the board or the superintendent admitted any thing such as omission. They are not the least bit apologitic for what has occured and if anything are defiant in insisting they did no wrong. I think all the community wanted as an admission of some oversights and an apology and the whole thing would have gone away. Instead by digging their heels in and continuing to insist they did nothing wrong they have lost any respect within the community. I certainly hope the public does not fail the budget because that does nothing but hurt the kids and the staff. The only way we can make a difference is to slowly get rid of the existing board members as they come up for reelection. Mrs. Dawson's term is up this year and that will send a powerful message if she is not reelected. Hopefully the administration and board will take the message to heart and finally admit the missteps.

05-02-2005, 02:36 PM
Vote NO on the Budget and keep on voting No till they can assure us that cuts will be made. Screw the workfare politics of the past. You talk about how great you are show us; you can do more for less like the rest of the work force.

05-03-2005, 11:48 AM
:twisted:

05-04-2005, 01:34 PM
:shock:

guest 001
05-07-2005, 02:23 PM
On a lighter note, the Suffolk County AD's ran their annual golf outing for the benefit of John Pidgeon. They have raised over $10,000 to aid in his recovery. Special thanks to Mark Mensch and John's family. Also to WF parent Steve Thomas and others for their generosity. If you would like to help John out call Mark.

gst0001
05-10-2005, 08:53 PM
VOTE NO on Jean Dawson

VOTE NO on Fred Miller

VOTE NO on the Budget

SEND A MESSAGE TO THE WILLIAM FLOYD SCHOOL BOARD

NO MORE CRONIES - NO MORE SWEATHEART DEALS FOR POLITICALLY CONNECTED COMPANIES - NO BUDGET PASSES UNTIL EVERY CURRENT BOARD MEMBER WHO VOTED FOR CIFONELLI'S CONTRACT IS VOTED OUT OF OFFICE OR RESIGNS

THAT INCLUDES RICH HAWKINS

fed up in mastic
05-11-2005, 09:44 PM
I was thinking about voting for Fred Miller untill I read Suffolk Life last week. It turns out he is another one of the Community Summit people who are trying to ram the Montauk highway project down our throats. Sorry Fred but I'm voting for the other candidate.

guest 10385
05-12-2005, 09:07 AM
Mr. Miller will be a great asset to the Board of Education. Yes, he is a member of the Summit, representing his church at the meetings. He was not even a member of the Summit when all the Montauk Hwy. visioning went on so don't blame him for the decsions that were made before he joined.

code enforcement
05-13-2005, 09:11 PM
Why has the Reverend Fred Miller put up illegal signs for his School Board campaign? Isn't breaking the law a sin? I can understand Jean Dawson breaking the law. She and the Board broke the law when they hired Cifonelli on after he retired. But a minister?

I'm so disappointed. It's a sad commentary on the state of contemporary American society, when our religious leaders can't even obey the law.

guest 10385
05-13-2005, 09:22 PM
I haven't seen any signs up for any of the candidates but maybe I missed them. Why is Dr. Miller's sign illegal?

code enforecemt too
05-13-2005, 09:28 PM
Signs placed on public property without permits and signs placed on utility poles are illegal.

TEACHERS & PTA
05-13-2005, 09:30 PM
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TEACHERS & PTA
05-13-2005, 09:31 PM
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mb2
05-13-2005, 09:44 PM
Beat you Comsewogue loser!

overtaxed in mastic
05-14-2005, 08:41 PM
Remember to vote NO on the William Floyd Budget. As long as Hawkins and is Board of Fools are there, no budget should ever be allowed to pass.

TEACHERS & PTA
05-14-2005, 11:08 PM
Remember to vote NO on the William Floyd Budget. As long as Hawkins and is Board of Fools are there, no budget should ever be allowed to pass.
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nuke the north shore
05-16-2005, 01:42 AM
It really quite sad that these Comsewogue scumbags are cluttering up every district thread with their posts for that sheep lover Roy.

05-16-2005, 04:54 PM
Just say NO and keep saying IT till the board comes up with a 0%increase. I'm sure if they stop the entire top heavy spending they can cover the cost of living increases.The whole world is dealing with cuts in spending and doing more with less why not the school districts. Don't come back and say the children will suffer because it doesn't have to be the way to save money, they just use it because it makes us the taxpayers feel gulity about how we vote.

Relief in Wm Floyd
05-18-2005, 12:32 AM
Congratulations to the voting taxpayers of the William Floyd School District. You sent a clear message to Rich Hawkins and his cabal on the school board. You said NO to their spending and workfare for "connected" individuals, at out expense.

Now we need to make sure that they don't get the exact same budget passed on a revote.

Keep voting NO on the William Floyd budget until Hawkins and all of his cronies are gone.

05-18-2005, 01:23 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: IT's about time :!: :!: :!: :D :D :D :D

05-19-2005, 02:31 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: bump

05-20-2005, 11:02 AM
im sure all of you rabble rousers attend these meetings right?????or are you just a group of angry uninformed anarchists?????

05-20-2005, 03:25 PM
sounds like a scared board member

guest 01
05-21-2005, 11:20 PM
For the last 14 years i have voted yes. this year i had enough ! Time to see some changes !

05-25-2005, 10:14 AM
im sure all of you rabble rousers attend these meetings right?????or are you just a group of angry uninformed anarchists????you don"t have to attend meetings to know funds were mispent or in that matter to vote NO !!!!!?

05-25-2005, 11:04 AM
vote no!!!!!! :twisted:

NWO
05-25-2005, 11:25 AM
AMEN :twisted:

06-02-2005, 03:08 PM
They say that some of the new hard working teachers got their walking papers last week. This is a shame but a way of the world last hired first fired. But if the district would let the old farts retire and not rehire them as consultants for more money they wouldn't have been as many pink slips go out.
Change the way that you do things Mr. Hawkins and the BOE or you will run out of what little support you have. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

guest 10385
06-02-2005, 03:49 PM
I guess you have never heard the word "tenure". You can't get rid of the "old farts". The new teachers have to go because they don't have tenure. I sure wish I had tenure in my job and I am sure that most people wish that also. The teachers unions are so powerful it is just crazy.

06-13-2005, 03:11 PM
WHEN IS THE REVOTE??????? DID THEY ADJUST THE NUMBERS OR DID THEY PUT UP THE SAME BUDGET

Upset Yet Again
06-14-2005, 11:57 AM
I grew up in this district, went to Wm Floyd Schools and now as a parent and taxpayer I am fed up with the mismanagement of this district. It was bad when Poulus was the Superintendent and with the present scandal it's no better now.

Assistant Superintendent's? Are they kidding? Deans for every grade? You've got to be joking. Multiple Guidance offices, Boar's Head Coldcut Counter in the Senior Cafeteria? This is absolutely ridiculous. Superintendent Hawkins dog being issued a school id and being walked through the hallways? (I hope that's not true...)


I'm tired of being threatened that if the budget doesn't pass, programs such as sports, after school activities, music, full-day kindergarten will be cut. Cut some of the administrators and let's call it a day. Show that you {the Board of Education and Superintendent Hawkins} are willing to meet the taxpayers half-way and maybe we'll pass your budget.

Let's play less politics and worry about the education of our kids who so desperately need it. I don't feel that one good change was offered for this revote, I plan on being there to vote this "budget" down again!!!

06-17-2005, 12:02 PM
Beat them at their own game. People with children in school get together and arrange a car pool system work together and really show them. I for one will transport my grandson to school if needed. I am a taxpayer who says No No No to higher taxes until the BOE can assure us that all the stealing and corruption has stopped within the district.

Nichols Rd
06-17-2005, 10:21 PM
We're hearing the Spec Ed Director is leaving.Why? Wasn't KG a pivotal cog in our kids education?Please tell me this is just a nasty rumor.

Billy F
06-18-2005, 09:20 AM
Good Luck Karen we'll miss you

shirleyguest
06-20-2005, 10:35 AM
I would love to know how much the school district spent on publicizing the revote. I have gotten many things in the mail, the kids have brought home stuff and there are signs all over the place plus ads,etc. For a district that is "down to the bare bones" where did they get this surplus money to spend?

06-22-2005, 01:40 AM
maybe the embezelers gave some money back

I See a Pattern
06-24-2005, 11:28 PM
Another former Wm Floyd employee as arrested today. This time for insurance fraud.

This is the second year in a row the Rich Hawkins and the rest of the Wm Floyd School Board capos decided to wait until AFTER the elections to comment on an investigation that was underway BEFORE the elections.

Does anyone else see a pattern here?

Billy Floyd
06-24-2005, 11:40 PM
Where's Karen Gatto going and why?

whats next ?
06-27-2005, 09:09 AM
:oops:

shirleyguest
06-27-2005, 09:30 AM
I think we have another case of the administration not doing their job. Since 1991 a man was claiming his ex-wife on his insurance and no one knew! Seems a little strange to me that no one was aware of the fact that he had been divorced and no one thought to check to see if he had removed his wife from his policy. Again, another case of the administration looking the other way and not catching the obvious things that they should have been. Now they want to seem like they have done the right thing because a new clerk found the mistake. Well it only took 14 years to find it! Another words if they hadn't hired this new clerk, Mr. DiNappoli would have still been claiming his ex-wife. Pretty sad

doing nothing
07-12-2005, 11:33 PM
:oops:

wf9999
07-15-2005, 03:06 PM
Well it seems that Fred didn't turn over a whole lot of info to the DA's office about misdealing in Brookhaven Town government. But, he apparently turned over scads of info on the William Floyd School District.

This would explain why his former Treasurer, local GOP hatchet man, and once longtime ally Bill Doyle, has started a one-man crusade against him. With Bill's wife now on the board, and several of his political cronies as longtime Board members, Bill is now in panic mode. Here’s a little history:

Bill's political godfather, former GOP leader Tom Neppel, is under investigation for his insurance dealings with the WFSD, the local GOP's inside man in the district (Schools Superintendent and William Floyd Community Summit Board member Rich Hawkins), has already been slapped for having his secretary send out political fundraising letters from school computers, a recent board member (and local Republican operative) was arrested on a felony charge for filing a false instrument, and the once dependable Republican mouthpiece, the South Shore Press, is now under new and independent ownership. Complicating matters is that Bill's own personal efforts at getting the Beechwood project approved are sinking faster than a lead balloon now that the presence of wetlands on the property has been publicly revealed.

What hasn’t been made public before now is that the amount of buildable area at Beechwood is even smaller than what is indicated in the publicly available site plan. It seems some of the property is going to be donated to Colonial Youth and Family Services for a new facility. Colonial Youth and Family Services is one of Bill’s boss, Leg. Peter O’Leary’s favorite "charities" for Suffolk taxpayer dollars, along with the William Floyd Community Summit.

Complicating this situation even further is opposition by the Montauk Highway Merchants Association, to the ill-conceived Montauk Highway Redevelopment Project. Central to this project is a sewer district that would place the already endangered Forge River in even greater peril. The chief advocates of the redevelopment project, Councilman Ed Hennessey, the William Floyd Community Summit and Rich Hawkins, tried unsuccessfully to keep the details of the sewer district a secret from the public.

What do the Montauk Highway Redevelopment Project and Beechwood have to do with one another you may ask? And what does any of this have to do with the William Floyd School District? They are both dependant on the sewer district. So is the planned development of new high density housing along the Forge River in Mastic (Movieland). This development is another one of Ed Hennessey’s priorities. The William Floyd School District serves as the patronage mill and hidden political power base. The William Floyd Community Summit serves as a source for foot soldiers to make the whole thing work, under the facade of being a civic organization, and a place for money to be funneled to finance the "supporters" of the aforementioned projects.

Here is how it was supposed to go down:

1 - The William Floyd Community Summit was to get the Montauk Highway Redevelopment Project approved with the appearance of "community backing".

2 – The Sewer District would then be built to support it.

3 – Beechwood could be designated as one of the treatment facility locations, thereby necessitating its construction.

4 – The Movieland property could now be developed because a sewer district would be in place.

All the while, Leg. Peter O’Leary would continue to quietly get resolutions approved in the County Legislature, to supply money to the William Floyd Community Summit and Colonial Youth and Family Services. With this money, those two organizations would advocate for approval of the Redevelopment and Beechwood.

Unfortunately, Fred Towle’s cooperation with the DA, and the information he supplied about the School District have resulted in public scrutiny, investigations and arrests, that threaten to completely unravel the Summit-Hennessey plans, and with it, Bill Doyle’s future political plans.

It will be some time before we learn the entire scope of Fred's cooperation with the DA, but you can be certain that more heads will roll. And some of those heads will be in the William Floyd School District.

mb momma
07-18-2005, 08:44 PM
Thanks for the roadmap wf9999!

shirleyguest
07-19-2005, 03:38 PM
Don't believe the above rantings and ravings. It is Fred Towle who is writting this drivel and it is all a bunch of lies. He is the one who made the deal so that Colonial Youth will get the property from the Beechwood PRC. He is the one who has done most of the things he claims were done by others. Just remember he is the one who admitted tocommitting many,many felonies and not the people mentioned in the statement above.