fresh of the press

[Unregisteredppo]

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/suffolk/ny-popba1612881238jun15,0,2247837.story

[Unregistered222]

Holistic assignments. Levy knows less about how to run a police force than he does about getting along with others. This moron is a joke. The worst part of this nightmare is that it is actually happening. How this guy Dormer can stand up without a spine is some type of medical miracle. The sad part of this is that the taxpayer continues to pay for a 2800 police force and now recieves the services of a 2400 member department and Levy has somehow convinced them that it is a good deal for them.

[Unregistered222222]

A fresh new start for each P.O. thank you. Job remains the same anywhere!!! Don't cave in to this non-sense!!!!!

[Unregistered610]

Stay the course brothers. If this is his ace in the hole, then he is betting on a weak hand. Sounds like 35 PO's are in for a shock in the next couple of days, but that is only 1 per squad, per precinct.
If the chiefs and inspectors think that this is an effective way to improve response times and the "effectiveness" of officers on the street, then so be it.
Seems to me though, that an officer who has spent time in a sector/zone/pct, has had the time to become familiar with its problems and needs and will have developed knowledge that will take years to replace or replicate.
When you get a new guy in your zone, atleast there are other officers to help him out with learning the area, the trouble houses/spots, and the "people of interest".
Going to be interesting to see how they handle the mass transfers they are talking about. I wonder if it will be a total pct transfer or just switching the zones around in your pct.
"United we stand, Divided we fall."

[Unregisteredone]

Stay the course brothers. If this is his ace in the hole, then he is betting on a weak hand. Sounds like 35 PO's are in for a shock in the next couple of days, but that is only 1 per squad, per precinct.
If the chiefs and inspectors think that this is an effective way to improve response times and the "effectiveness" of officers on the street, then so be it.
Seems to me though, that an officer who has spent time in a sector/zone/pct, has had the time to become familiar with its problems and needs and will have developed knowledge that will take years to replace or replicate.
When you get a new guy in your zone, atleast there are other officers to help him out with learning the area, the trouble houses/spots, and the "people of interest".
Going to be interesting to see how they handle the mass transfers they are talking about. I wonder if it will be a total pct transfer or just switching the zones around in your pct.
"United we stand, Divided we fall."

This whole move, much like the Highway and Cope situations have NOTHING to do with better policing! It's all about Stevie and his agenda. He's got a senile old bitter drip running the department and brass that was neutered a long time ago. As for his threats of 7 layoffs, OT cuts, eliminating the 300+ "paper positions", and moving Cops around.... nothing but a bully trying to get his way. Stand strong.... As the commanding officer said when asked to surrender by the Germans at the Battle of the Bluge during WWII... the answer is "NUTS"... and no... not as in what is resting on Steve's chin most nights... NUTS as in GFY!

Remember guys... happy respected employees as productive employees... happy employees are healthy with lower incidences of illness and job related injury ... happy employees go above and beyond what is asked of them... do you feel happy, do you feel respected... or for that matter... do you think the brass or Stevie really care at all?

Stevie's lasted "holistic" move is designed to screw with the employees... time we screwed back a bit! Let's bang this guy a bit....The answer is but a phone call away!

[united!]

This whole move, much like the Highway and Cope situations have NOTHING to do with better policing! It's all about Stevie and his agenda. He's got a senile old bitter drip running the department and brass that was neutered a long time ago. As for his threats of 7 layoffs, OT cuts, eliminating the 300+ "paper positions", and moving Cops around.... nothing but a bully trying to get his way. Stand strong.... As the commanding officer said when asked to surrender by the Germans at the Battle of the Bluge during WWII... the answer is "NUTS"... and no... not as in what is resting on Steve's chin most nights... NUTS as in GFY!

Remember guys... happy respected employees as productive employees... happy employees are healthy with lower incidences of illness and job related injury ... happy employees go above and beyond what is asked of them... do you feel happy, do you feel respected... or for that matter... do you think the brass or Stevie really care at all?

Stevie's lasted "holistic" move is designed to screw with the employees... time we screwed back a bit! Let's bang this guy a bit....The answer is but a phone call away!

DON'T NEGOTIATE WITH A TERRORIST. THEY CAN TRY TO FUCK WITH US ALL THEY WANT,BUT THEY CAN'T BREAK US. HE FORGETS ALOT OF US HAVE BEEN TO WAR, AND HAVE SEEN MUCH WORSE THAN HE COULD EVER BRING. HE'S NOTHING MORE THAN A "LITTLE" DOGGIE. BIG BARK-LITTLE BITE!

[SCPD Patrol 3]

I'm digging in! It is going to be a battle, but we will prevail if we stick together and support each other. Other threads talk about drinking kool aid and chasing carrots. if we as a group stop this we will be better off. There is no "I " in team but there are 2 in "idiot" Don't be one! Stick together and stay the course. If anyone has any thought that they are going back to their former detail after Levy/Dormer's last moves, you are sadly mistaken.

[Unregistered/unpro]

This whole move, much like the Highway and Cope situations have NOTHING to do with better policing! It's all about Stevie and his agenda. He's got a senile old bitter drip running the department and brass that was neutered a long time ago. As for his threats of 7 layoffs, OT cuts, eliminating the 300+ "paper positions", and moving Cops around.... nothing but a bully trying to get his way. Stand strong.... As the commanding officer said when asked to surrender by the Germans at the Battle of the Bluge during WWII... the answer is "NUTS"... and no... not as in what is resting on Steve's chin most nights... NUTS as in GFY!

Remember guys... happy respected employees as productive employees... happy employees are healthy with lower incidences of illness and job related injury ... happy employees go above and beyond what is asked of them... do you feel happy, do you feel respected... or for that matter... do you think the brass or Stevie really care at all?

Stevie's lasted "holistic" move is designed to screw with the employees... time we screwed back a bit! Let's bang this guy a bit....The answer is but a phone call away!

Could you imagine if the AMA said the same things because of Obama's new health plan, so much for the concern and safety of the public that pays you a very good salary and provides bennies that are unheard of in the private sector. No wonder the public is fed up with your antics. Fire them all ,Stevie.

[Unregistered610]

So... Here is my take on this.
1. Levy is going to terminate 365 police positions that are as of right now unfilled. Unfilled because he has not hired these police yet the taxpayers are still paying for. On top of that, he is going to fire 7 active duty police officers and transfer another 35 to different precincts. Supposedly this will save the county 5.5 million. How will that translate into the police tax? Will that tax go down since we now will not be budgeted for those 372 police officers? Isn't that how the game works?

2. Mass transfers cannot possibly save any money in any way, shape, or form. Does anyone see how that can be? Yet another punitive action against the police department. Anyhow, if that is the knee-jerk reaction by the County Executive, why is it that he is now making personell decisions about the police department. I personally don't care where I work. I have been in my car for a while now, and know my sector and the surrounding sectors very well. I know my problem areas, my problem houses, and my problem people. Getting rid of one sector operator would not make a difference, but a mass transfer only serves to harm the community we serve in the long run.

3. COPE. I can't even imagine where to start. "Putting 90 officers back into patrol"..... Really? My squad is getting 2 "former" Cope members. They will still be in their "COPE" cars, wearing their "COPE" uniforms, and doing their "COPE" duties. They will be classified as "relief drivers" and back fill the potential overtime positions, as they always have, but, there is no real change other than their hours/tour. They have always been on the road handling the problems that Patrol cannot cover due to the volume of calls. They aren't losing their "COPE" name, due to the fact that it is a Federally Funded mission, but there will not be a "COPE" unit. Sounds like a money scam to me. Ditch the unit but keep collecting the money for it? Or did Levy inform the feds that he no longer needs their money as he is disbanding the unit?

4. Morale. We are our own worst enemy. We let Levy yank our chain and flail and scream and cry about how "Greedy" we are. (Never forget about his comment about "Pigs get fat, but hogs get lead to the slaughter") Then we shoot back in a PUBLIC forum with comments like "I will milk the OT" and "just watch my response time". I, for one, joined up to serve the people of Suffolk, and will continue to serve no matter where I am assigned. I know the majority of the officers will continue to serve in their quiet, professional way. The public will see the long term effects of Levy's dismantling of this department.

In the meantime, keep the faith in our union. They are fighting for all of us. If we give into Levy now, do you think for a minute that this will all stop? Do you think it will all go back to normal? I think that he will take those concessions, and the next day demand more and continue with his methodical destruction of this department. Stay strong brothers. Keep the faith. Come to work, watch your partner's back, and go home safe.

Benjamin Franklin said, during the War of Independence, "If we don't all hang together in this, then we shall all hang separatly."

[Unregisteredone]

Could you imagine if the AMA said the same things because of Obama's new health plan, so much for the concern and safety of the public that pays you a very good salary and provides bennies that are unheard of in the private sector. No wonder the public is fed up with your antics. Fire them all ,Stevie.

Do you really believe O has a chance in hell of making his plan fly?

And when is it that you're stepping up and giving Stevie 10 days of your pay to hold on to for the next ten years to fix this problem? When you put your money where your mouth is you get to have an opinion... until then STFU.

[Unregisteredsaveit]

Could you imagine if the AMA said the same things because of Obama's new health plan, so much for the concern and safety of the public that pays you a very good salary and provides bennies that are unheard of in the private sector. No wonder the public is fed up with your antics. Fire them all ,Stevie.

cute twist, but i dont see anything said here that affects the public.
In fact if levy was concerned about the public and their concerns and safety, he wouldnt have removed highway and replaced them with deps who never worked there before.
If levy was concerned about the public, he wouldnt remove cope and eventually gang and crime control as a punishment for our labor negotiations.
If levy was concerned about the public he wouldnt remove cops from pcts they work and ship them to a place where they might not be so familiar., increasing response time.

[not whats being said]

Could you imagine if the AMA said the same things because of Obama's new health plan, so much for the concern and safety of the public that pays you a very good salary and provides bennies that are unheard of in the private sector. No wonder the public is fed up with your antics. Fire them all ,Stevie.

By stating a well known fact? About productive workers?
This has nothing to do with the taxpayers. Not one cop is talking about screwing the taxpayer. Why twist it into something it isnt?

[Unregistered/unpro]

By stating a well known fact? About productive workers?
This has nothing to do with the taxpayers. Not one cop is talking about screwing the taxpayer. Why twist it into something it isnt?

Look again. threats of taking more sick time, not going above and beyond, happy workers are not productove workers, all are implied threats to react not to do what you have been doing. and that can result in slower response times, less summons, less arrests, etc, all those things that will show levy that you are not very happy with his new proposals, labor offers, etc. which will endanger the public. Yes, I am reading between the lines, but it isn't the first time you have let Levy know of your displeasure with current events. Transfer of Highway did not jeopardise public safety one iota, even with less summons written. Transfer of cope again has nothing to do with public safety. These are just lame excuses for which to rally around emanating from your contract dispute and escalation on both sides to see who will blink first. If you were the true professionals you boast that you are, you would continue to do the best job you possibly can and whatever happens to these new policies and their effects on the pd, then let it happen and if the results are what you say they will be, then let Levy take the heat, and let the public decide who was the bad guy.

[Unregisteredsaveit]

Look again. threats of taking more sick time, not going above and beyond, happy workers are not productove workers, all are implied threats to react not to do what you have been doing. and that can result in slower response times, less summons, less arrests, etc, all those things that will show levy that you are not very happy with his new proposals, labor offers, etc. which will endanger the public. Yes, I am reading between the lines, but it isn't the first time you have let Levy know of your displeasure with current events. Transfer of Highway did not jeopardise public safety one iota, even with less summons written. Transfer of cope again has nothing to do with public safety. These are just lame excuses for which to rally around emanating from your contract dispute and escalation on both sides to see who will blink first. If you were the true professionals you boast that you are, you would continue to do the best job you possibly can and whatever happens to these new policies and their effects on the pd, then let it happen and if the results are what you say they will be, then let Levy take the heat, and let the public decide who was the bad guy.


Thats your opinion, the poster simply stated a general fact.
No one has made any statement about the public or putting them in danger.
Stop trying to make something where there isnt anything.

[read the lines]

Look again. threats of taking more sick time, not going above and beyond, happy workers are not productove workers, all are implied threats to react not to do what you have been doing. and that can result in slower response times, less summons, less arrests, etc, all those things that will show levy that you are not very happy with his new proposals, labor offers, etc. which will endanger the public. Yes, I am reading between the lines, but it isn't the first time you have let Levy know of your displeasure with current events. Transfer of Highway did not jeopardise public safety one iota, even with less summons written. Transfer of cope again has nothing to do with public safety. These are just lame excuses for which to rally around emanating from your contract dispute and escalation on both sides to see who will blink first. If you were the true professionals you boast that you are, you would continue to do the best job you possibly can and whatever happens to these new policies and their effects on the pd, then let it happen and if the results are what you say they will be, then let Levy take the heat, and let the public decide who was the bad guy.
All I see are "threats" of using sick time. Well if its their sick time, and the county has ample spare police, it shouldnt be an issue, should it?
The rest is you trying to make something out of nothing.

[Unregistered32424]

Where are these cops coming from if you are already short in patrol and have cope and pcs people filling sector cars? There are no more bodies to spare. We are already operating with dangerously low manpower. No cop is looking to hurt the public at all, but this policy is placing the public in great danger. People think that nothing goes on but the one time when you need a cop will most likely be a moment you didn't expect and didnt plan on and you will want one there asap. I guarantee you that if you ask anyone who has been in that situation, a prompt poilce response is priceless. Maybe Steve should just start charging people who call 911 instead of a flat tax. Would you pay $700 to have a cop there when you really need one? I think so.

[Unregistered2424884]

They are coming from pcs and gang units. They are both done in the next month or so.

[Unregistered Bluge?]

This whole move, much like the Highway and Cope situations have NOTHING to do with better policing! It's all about Stevie and his agenda. He's got a senile old bitter drip running the department and brass that was neutered a long time ago. As for his threats of 7 layoffs, OT cuts, eliminating the 300+ "paper positions", and moving Cops around.... nothing but a bully trying to get his way. Stand strong.... As the commanding officer said when asked to surrender by the Germans at the Battle of the Bluge during WWII... the answer is "NUTS"... and no... not as in what is resting on Steve's chin most nights... NUTS as in GFY!

Remember guys... happy respected employees as productive employees... happy employees are healthy with lower incidences of illness and job related injury ... happy employees go above and beyond what is asked of them... do you feel happy, do you feel respected... or for that matter... do you think the brass or Stevie really care at all?

Stevie's lasted "holistic" move is designed to screw with the employees... time we screwed back a bit! Let's bang this guy a bit....The answer is but a phone call away!

Are you f-ing kidding me? Here's the entire problem with your post, Lebie isnt the Bully, Frayler is. Lebie is just doing what he has been training to do his entire puny little life - fighting the Bullies and winning. None of his BS has to ring true with anyone, not the Legislature, not the public not anyone. The Legislature is happy they have now slid out from under Jeff Frayler, the public hates us for the sheer arrogance many of our co workers. So nobody cares and Lebie is taking perfect aim and shooting us down piece by piece while Dormer looks on - albeit johnson in hand.

[Unregisteredmore-]

They are coming from pcs and gang units. They are both done in the next month or so.

not enough cops....STILL

[Unregisteredbully]

Are you f-ing kidding me? Here's the entire problem with your post, Lebie isnt the Bully, Frayler is. Lebie is just doing what he has been training to do his entire puny little life - fighting the Bullies and winning. None of his BS has to ring true with anyone, not the Legislature, not the public not anyone. The Legislature is happy they have now slid out from under Jeff Frayler, the public hates us for the sheer arrogance many of our co workers. So nobody cares and Lebie is taking perfect aim and shooting us down piece by piece while Dormer looks on - albeit johnson in hand.

Levy is a bully too. The leg is not happy with him, the democratic party isnt happy with him, not one union or nonunion county worker is happy with him

[CountyContractor]

Levy is a bully too. The leg is not happy with him, the democratic party isnt happy with him, not one union or nonunion county worker is happy with him

When everyone is pissed at Levy, you KNOW he's doing something right. He still has 92% public support. Screw the Dems - Levy can run on his own ticket, even as a WRITE IN and will win.

What is pissing you all off is he's NOT HANDING YOU THE STORE ANYMORE. The little "game" of "give the unions everything they ask for, pretend to fight it in negotiations, then reach an impasse, and let the arbitrators award them so it's not my fault when the public gets to foot unreasonable and insane police salary increases of 12% to 15% plus even MORE added perks and rule changes that boggle the mind" (deep breath) is FKN OVER fellas.

[AGREEDpublic]

When everyone is pissed at Levy, you KNOW he's doing something right. He still has 92% public support. Screw the Dems - Levy can run on his own ticket, even as a WRITE IN and will win.

What is pissing you all off is he's NOT HANDING YOU THE STORE ANYMORE. The little "game" of "give the unions everything they ask for, pretend to fight it in negotiations, then reach an impasse, and let the arbitrators award them so it's not my fault when the public gets to foot unreasonable and insane police salary increases of 12% to 15% plus even MORE added perks and rule changes that boggle the mind" (deep breath) is FKN OVER fellas.

You guys are a joke! Crying all your tears, you know damn well more then 80% of what you get is not only absurd but 80% of you don’t deserve a dime of it! Your arrogance and carrying on as if this is OWED to you. What about those of us who has spent x amount of years in college to work hard for a Masters and work to climb a corporate ladder, and we aren’t making half the foolish amounts of garbage you are and get away with. And some of you fools are walking around with GED’s, how pitiful is that! Paid out unused sick time? ARE YOU KIDDING ME!

[UnregisteredBRAINIAC]

When everyone is pissed at Levy, you KNOW he's doing something right. He still has 92% public support. Screw the Dems - Levy can run on his own ticket, even as a WRITE IN and will win.

What is pissing you all off is he's NOT HANDING YOU THE STORE ANYMORE. The little "game" of "give the unions everything they ask for, pretend to fight it in negotiations, then reach an impasse, and let the arbitrators award them so it's not my fault when the public gets to foot unreasonable and insane police salary increases of 12% to 15% plus even MORE added perks and rule changes that boggle the mind" (deep breath) is FKN OVER fellas.


What has scpd lost? The last 3 contracts prior to levy were all 3-4 %
Your post is another example of a dramatic but ill thought out and factually wrong post.
The cope cops and crime and gang cops are responsible for a high arrest total(cop in my pct average 75+ and go up to 150 arrests, and 600-1000 tickets)
crime and gang cops both average over 100 arrests, some over 200. When the detectives start handling the misdemeanor crimes the crime units did, they will not put the time or effort into it. In fact the detectives tend to send both the crime and gang units a great deal of very solvable crimes they cant attend to.
Whos going to pick up the slack Mr county contractor??
Sure the county is going to save money on overtime, overtime that exists due to the manpower shortage, and the extreme topheavy number of supervisors. But are you going to see the savings? NO. what you are going to see is a lack of proper investigation into crimes, no one available to handle community oriented complaints, and the same exact 2 hour wait to document anything that is not violent, or domestic.
But you are happy because tyhe arbitration board is not giving us a 12% raise...something levy has little say in...
BRILLIANT

[Achilles]

You guys are a joke! Crying all your tears, you know damn well more then 80% of what you get is not only absurd but 80% of you don’t deserve a dime of it! Your arrogance and carrying on as if this is OWED to you. What about those of us who has spent x amount of years in college to work hard for a Masters and work to climb a corporate ladder, and we aren’t making half the foolish amounts of garbage you are and get away with. And some of you fools are walking around with GED’s, how pitiful is that! Paid out unused sick time? ARE YOU KIDDING ME!

I guess all you guys with MBA's aren't as smart as you think you are. Otherwise you would have tried to get this cushy do-nothing job that grossly over pays us. You made your decisions in life. No one put a gun to your head and forced you to spend x amount of years in college so you can get a job that doesn't pay as well as ours. Face it, you made some wrong decisions in life. Now you're angry and jealous and it's eating you alive. SUCKS TO BE YOU. Oh, by the way, tha vast majority of Suffolk cops have a college degree.

[STFUCountyContractor]

What is pissing you all off is he's NOT HANDING YOU THE STORE ANYMORE. The little "game" of "give the unions everything they ask for, pretend to fight it in negotiations, then reach an impasse, and let the arbitrators award them so it's not my fault when the public gets to foot unreasonable and insane police salary increases of 12% to 15% plus even MORE added perks and rule changes that boggle the mind" (deep breath) is FKN OVER fellas.

Newsflash dipshit. We reached an impasse and went to9 arb
When this contract comes out, it will be comparable to the last one. And when it does, Levy will get i/f/o the cameras and wring his hands and whine how unfair the binding arb is.
Then this contract will expire in 1/10, and it will start over. And when that contract comes thru it will be exactly the same scenario again.
Let me ask you, the last contract that saw 12% increases, what year was that? It didnt stop because of levy, because the past few during gaffney's time was 3-4% so are you saying Levy will do better? Will Levy get a 1% or 2% raise for the scpd, for you?
Because otherwise with all your raving and ranting he will be a failure, wont he?
After all gaffney got that and he was in my pocket...lol

[UnregisteredDUHHHH]

What has scpd lost? The last 3 contracts prior to levy were all 3-4 %
Your post is another example of a dramatic but ill thought out and factually wrong post.
The cope cops and crime and gang cops are responsible for a high arrest total(cop in my pct average 75+ and go up to 150 arrests, and 600-1000 tickets)
crime and gang cops both average over 100 arrests, some over 200. When the detectives start handling the misdemeanor crimes the crime units did, they will not put the time or effort into it. In fact the detectives tend to send both the crime and gang units a great deal of very solvable crimes they cant attend to.
Whos going to pick up the slack Mr county contractor??
Sure the county is going to save money on overtime, overtime that exists due to the manpower shortage, and the extreme topheavy number of supervisors. But are you going to see the savings? NO. what you are going to see is a lack of proper investigation into crimes, no one available to handle community oriented complaints, and the same exact 2 hour wait to document anything that is not violent, or domestic.
But you are happy because tyhe arbitration board is not giving us a 12% raise...something levy has little say in...
BRILLIANT

You don't seem to get it pal, whenever you SCPD boys start talking numbers of arrests, percentage of this or parts of that, the only thing we taxpayers can see is your big, fat, overinflated salary! While you are talking we hear exactly what Charlie Bronw always hears when his teacher is yacking -
WA-WAWA-WA-WA---WAWAWA-WA-WA-WAWAWA-WA.

This is why when the SCPD handpuppet of the week, (Newsday), wrote about reduced traffic summons with Deputies, etc. WE didn't give a crap.
WA-WAWA-WA-WA-WA-

[u r a hoot]

You don't seem to get it pal, whenever you SCPD boys start talking numbers of arrests, percentage of this or parts of that, the only thing we taxpayers can see is your big, fat, overinflated salary! While you are talking we hear exactly what Charlie Bronw always hears when his teacher is yacking -
WA-WAWA-WA-WA---WAWAWA-WA-WA-WAWAWA-WA.

This is why when the SCPD handpuppet of the week, (Newsday), wrote about reduced traffic summons with Deputies, etc. WE didn't give a crap.
WA-WAWA-WA-WA-WA-

Right wa wa wa ...in other words you just dont understand. And when you car gets broken into and you want someone to catch the person, and someone to sit on your block, you'll get it then. Because the guys who used to do that are busy filling cars. AND still getting their HUGE PAYCHECKS.
So you lose. Enjoy !!

[all hail levy]

You don't seem to get it pal, whenever you SCPD boys start talking numbers of arrests, percentage of this or parts of that, the only thing we taxpayers can see is your big, fat, overinflated salary! While you are talking we hear exactly what Charlie Bronw always hears when his teacher is yacking -
WA-WAWA-WA-WA---WAWAWA-WA-WA-WAWAWA-WA.

This is why when the SCPD handpuppet of the week, (Newsday), wrote about reduced traffic summons with Deputies, etc. WE didn't give a crap.
WA-WAWA-WA-WA-WA-

You still didnt answer the question, what has scpd lost? The cops transferred from cope to patrol are doing exactly the same thing as before, except now they are considered patrol. The cops that will be transferred from crime section, Are going from their current duties to working in cars.
All of them will retain their current salary.
However something the dept failed to address, while they will curtail the glut of overtime due to vacations during the day and evening tours, not one cop has been assigned to mids, so its still bonanza time.
What levy has done, or will do, and you fools are eating up, is he has cut services, under the guise of putting scpd in their place.
Your police taxes went up an average of 14.00 per household in January. This was a factor in our arb case and contributed to the award being as high as it will be when it comes out. However levy hasnt hired any cops with it.
And now hes cut police services.
So effectively, you are getting less bang for your buck, and my paycheck is as fully inflated as it ever has been.

[Unregistered/21345]

I guess all you guys with MBA's aren't as smart as you think you are. Otherwise you would have tried to get this cushy do-nothing job that grossly over pays us. You made your decisions in life. No one put a gun to your head and forced you to spend x amount of years in college so you can get a job that doesn't pay as well as ours. Face it, you made some wrong decisions in life. Now you're angry and jealous and it's eating you alive. SUCKS TO BE YOU. Oh, by the way, tha vast majority of Suffolk cops have a college degree.

Hey, Sarge, he's just as angry and jealous as you are.

[Achilles]

Hey, Sarge, he's just as angry and
jealous as you are.

Hey, peasant, I'm not bothered about anything. You drips that spend your empty lives posting endlessly on this police board are the ones that are angry and jealous. If times are tough go get a job. If that's not enough get two. Just stop your pissing and moaning about how tough you have it. You could have taken the test and had the opportunity to be disqualified for any number of reasons along the way. Sucks to be you...

[Unregisteredone]

Isn't it all you "smart guys" with MBAs and PHDs that got this country into this financial mess with the banks and business that created these fantasy business models that couldn't survive?... Civil service must be looking pretty good now my friend!

[Yourpitiful]

Isn't it all you "smart guys" with MBAs and PHDs that got this country into this financial mess with the banks and business that created these fantasy business models that couldn't survive?... Civil service must be looking pretty good now my friend!

Haah Brother Id rather not stand at the counters of 7-11's and dunkin dounuts EXPECTING free coffees and sandwiches from Delis . Ya bunch of cheap Jew bastards!

[habibsBoy]

Haah Brother Id rather not stand at the counters of 7-11's and dunkin dounuts EXPECTING free coffees and sandwiches from Delis . Ya bunch of cheap Jew bastards!

Pretty soon you'll be standing behind the counters. If you work hard enough for Habib and keep those floors shiny I may tip you.

[County Contractor 1]

What has scpd lost? The last 3 contracts prior to levy were all 3-4 %
Your post is another example of a dramatic but ill thought out and factually wrong post.
The cope cops and crime and gang cops are responsible for a high arrest total(cop in my pct average 75+ and go up to 150 arrests, and 600-1000 tickets)
crime and gang cops both average over 100 arrests, some over 200. When the detectives start handling the misdemeanor crimes the crime units did, they will not put the time or effort into it. In fact the detectives tend to send both the crime and gang units a great deal of very solvable crimes they cant attend to.

That is because, under the past administrations, detectives "solving" crimes amounted to the BS "Detectives" getting a "full confession" via illegal means amazingly, 96% of the time. Amazingly because, MOST crimes "solved" in Suffolk by promoted lazy asswipe detertives (who couldn't find their way out of a paper bag with a flashlight and a map,) was acceptable in the past...

And NONE of you like it at all that there actually IS a higher, BETTER standard today. One you cannot BULLSHIT your way around.

You're all too used to the useless alcohilic piece of shit that arrested , and the political climate that made indescretions like that possible.


Whos going to pick up the slack Mr county contractor??
Sure the county is going to save money on overtime, overtime that exists due to the manpower shortage, and the extreme topheavy number of supervisors. But are you going to see the savings? NO. what you are going to see is a lack of proper investigation into crimes, no one available to handle community oriented complaints, and the same exact 2 hour wait to document anything that is not violent, or domestic.
But you are happy because tyhe arbitration board is not giving us a 12% raise...something levy has little say in...
BRILLIANT

Well if it sucks so much for you mr. Coddled, why don't you just QUIT and seek your fortune in the private, taxPAYING sector?

[Unregistered23232]

Haah Brother Id rather not stand at the counters of 7-11's and dunkin dounuts EXPECTING free coffees and sandwiches from Delis . Ya bunch of cheap Jew bastards!

Now here's a glimpse of the mentality we're dealing with. You shame you family, you shame your community. But in the end, it'll be a police officer that pulls you out of your overturned wreck. And even then you won't have a clue.

[whatadoofus]

That is because, under the past administrations, detectives "solving" crimes amounted to the BS "Detectives" getting a "full confession" via illegal means amazingly, 96% of the time. ?

It's depressing that this screw ball probably walks around believing he is somewhat intelligent.

[Countydufus Contractor]

That is because, under the past administrations, detectives "solving" crimes amounted to the BS "Detectives" getting a "full confession" via illegal means amazingly, 96% of the time. Amazingly because, MOST crimes "solved" in Suffolk by promoted lazy asswipe detertives (who couldn't find their way out of a paper bag with a flashlight and a map,) was acceptable in the past...

And NONE of you like it at all that there actually IS a higher, BETTER standard today. One you cannot BULLSHIT your way around.

You're all too used to the useless alcohilic piece of shit that arrested , and the political climate that made indescretions like that possible.



Well if it sucks so much for you mr. Coddled, why don't you just QUIT and seek your fortune in the private, taxPAYING sector?
Whos talking about detectives sovling anything? WTF? The issue at hand is that detectives will not entertain the crtimes the crime un it did...geesh follow the thread dufus!!
And where did it say it sucks for me?
IT SUCKS FOR THE VICTIMS OF MINOR CRIMES!!! I'm 20 hours ahead of where I was last year. Remember dupe, we went thur this before, there are 3 types of overtime, call related, manpower and court.
If you are going to reply follow the thread!!

[Unregisteredyummy]

Haah Brother Id rather not stand at the counters of 7-11's and dunkin dounuts EXPECTING free coffees and sandwiches from Delis . Ya bunch of cheap Jew bastards!

nah you are smarter then that, you know yesterdays snadwiches are in the dumptser and they taste almost as good...

[what a fn moron]

That is because, under the past administrations, detectives "solving" crimes amounted to the BS "Detectives" getting a "full confession" via illegal means amazingly, 96% of the time. Amazingly because, MOST crimes "solved" in Suffolk by promoted lazy asswipe detertives (who couldn't find their way out of a paper bag with a flashlight and a map,) was acceptable in the past...

And NONE of you like it at all that there actually IS a higher, BETTER standard today. One you cannot BULLSHIT your way around.

You're all too used to the useless alcohilic piece of shit that arrested , and the political climate that made indescretions like that possible.



Well if it sucks so much for you mr. Coddled, why don't you just QUIT and seek your fortune in the private, taxPAYING sector?
you dont have a clue whats being discussed do you jerky?
No is talking about detectives taking confessions.
The issue is the huge amount of work and manpower lost if levy has his way.
And the poster is not complaining about his job. He has his job ,and will continue to make his salary. What will change is when a member of the public is a victim of a minor crime he will not receive the serivce he currently gets.
Its called cutting services, and you are the ones who are going to hurt. There are 25k misdemeanors and nearly 10k violations that are investigated by the crime section( NOT DETECTIVES) they also investigate the dirty men that go after your kids at busstops.
These will be reassigned to the detectives who will not have the time to investigate them.
Suck a lemon, hater.

[We Pay Too]

Well if it sucks so much for you mr. Coddled, why don't you just QUIT and seek your fortune in the private, taxPAYING sector?

We ALL pay Taxes, and alot more then most of the people on here.

[sux 2 b u]

You guys are a joke! Crying all your tears, you know damn well more then 80% of what you get is not only absurd but 80% of you don’t deserve a dime of it! Your arrogance and carrying on as if this is OWED to you. What about those of us who has spent x amount of years in college to work hard for a Masters and work to climb a corporate ladder, and we aren’t making half the foolish amounts of garbage you are and get away with. And some of you fools are walking around with GED’s, how pitiful is that! Paid out unused sick time? ARE YOU KIDDING ME!

Hmm who is crying? you. Your post is the epitome of crying. stfu and get a job. Stop looking up at us and hating.
I know very few people i've met "earn " their money. Do the 1000s of businesses ceos etc that have fucked this country's finances up deserve what they get? How do you earn 100k salaries when the business you run is in the shitter? ARE YOU KIDDING ME
If you spent years in college and have a degree and do not make 100k look in the mirror. You have no one to blame but yourself. You are a joke

[countyshitbyrd]

Whos talking about detectives sovling anything? WTF? The issue at hand is that detectives will not entertain the crtimes the crime un it did...geesh follow the thread dufus!!
And where did it say it sucks for me?
IT SUCKS FOR THE VICTIMS OF MINOR CRIMES!!! I'm 20 hours ahead of where I was last year. Remember dupe, we went thur this before, there are 3 types of overtime, call related, manpower and court.
If you are going to reply follow the thread!!

you are arguing with an imbecile, keep it up, he'll embarass himself for another day or two and dissapear

[bunghole moron]

That is because, under the past administrations, detectives "solving" crimes amounted to the BS "Detectives" getting a "full confession" via illegal means amazingly, 96% of the time. Amazingly because, MOST crimes "solved" in Suffolk by promoted lazy asswipe detertives (who couldn't find their way out of a paper bag with a flashlight and a map,) was acceptable in the past...

And NONE of you like it at all that there actually IS a higher, BETTER standard today. One you cannot BULLSHIT your way around.

You're all too used to the useless alcohilic piece of shit that arrested , and the political climate that made indescretions like that possible.



Well if it sucks so much for you mr. Coddled, why don't you just QUIT and seek your fortune in the private, taxPAYING sector?
What does your post have to do with levy removing the crime section and cope? Neither are detectives.
And thanks for your imbecilic insight into the world of detectives. I guess you read 's blog and consider yourself an expert into detectives?
Here is a newsflash, the detectives in 1980s thruout the world operated without the advanced technology of today. The same technology is available today to scpd and used.
The confession was NOT obtained by illegal means(WTF???) it was a simple ploy used by detectives and cops for years, all over the world.
But again, none of what you brought up is at issue here, where did you get this garbage? I read the same post you quoted. Are you stupid?
The cop is not saying it sucks for him, hes saying that if the crime section is removed, a unit that investigates nonfelony crimes(that detectives handle) the majority of crimes will not be investigated, and the people of suffolk will have lost services.
Do you understand this? Do you need further clarification?

[thehitskeepcummin]

seek your fortune in the private, taxPAYING sector?
Cops dont pay taxes?
you idiot

[quitepertinent2topic]

That is because, under the past administrations, detectives "solving" crimes amounted to the BS "Detectives" getting a "full confession" via illegal means amazingly, 96% of the time. Amazingly because, MOST crimes "solved" in Suffolk by promoted lazy asswipe detertives (who couldn't find their way out of a paper bag with a flashlight and a map,) was acceptable in the past...

And NONE of you like it at all that there actually IS a higher, BETTER standard today. One you cannot BULLSHIT your way around.

You're all too used to the useless alcohilic piece of shit that arrested , and the political climate that made indescretions like that possible.





Thanks for the insight, thoughts on the price of tea in China?

[Unregisterreed]

Cops dont pay taxes?
you idiot

Not in retirement they don't... :)

[makelikeatree+leave]

Not in retirement they don't... :)

Really? When they own a home in nys they dont pay property tax?
Their pension checks are tax exempt?
lamo

[21 Years a Suffolk Cop]

Not in retirement they don't... :)

The only tax a New York State Pension for Police Officers is exempt from is NYS Income Tax. A retired Police Officer Still pays property taxes, sales taxes and FEDERAL INCOME TAX. An exception to the Federal Income Tax is a disability pension. Regular retirement pensions (non disability) from NYS are also taxable under some other state income taxes when the retiree moves there.

[Unregistered210]

why do you entertain these jealous ignorant assholes who are only now realize that all those years fucking off in college on mommy's and daddy's dime to get their big name college degrees. doesn't mean shit now that their big time jobs that they used to parade around with are gone.now with all the time on their hands they can bitch at civil servants that they still think are below them ,so enjoy being laid off while we make our steady incomes that you used to laugh about.

[Unregisteredfttrolls]

why do you entertain these jealous ignorant assholes who are only now realize that all those years fucking off in college on mommy's and daddy's dime to get their big name college degrees. doesn't mean shit now that their big time jobs that they used to parade around with are gone.now with all the time on their hands they can bitch at civil servants that they still think are below them ,so enjoy being laid off while we make our steady incomes that you used to laugh about.

and they can pretend to date sgts and know about the perb hearing

[waaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

You guys are a joke! Crying all your tears, you know damn well more then 80% of what you get is not only absurd but 80% of you don’t deserve a dime of it! Your arrogance and carrying on as if this is OWED to you. What about those of us who has spent x amount of years in college to work hard for a Masters and work to climb a corporate ladder, and we aren’t making half the foolish amounts of garbage you are and get away with. And some of you fools are walking around with GED’s, how pitiful is that! Paid out unused sick time? ARE YOU KIDDING ME!

smart enough for that masters but couldn't pass the civil service exam huh? who's the dope now? my partner with the GED feels terrible for you, right now hes wiping away his tears with hundred dollar bills, and blowing his nose with his uniform allowance check. you made your choices in life deal with them.

[UnregisteredGEDWINNERS]

smart enough for that masters but couldn't pass the civil service exam huh? who's the dope now? my partner with the GED feels terrible for you, right now hes wiping away his tears with hundred dollar bills, and blowing his nose with his uniform allowance check. you made your choices in life deal with them.

I personally know many people who have no experience in law enforcement that have written 90+ on your retarded test. I know two very well that passed on the job for whatever personal reasons. Easy tests always have another reason other than attracting the very best. How are you jokers going to get your friends and relatives in if they write only an 80?

Back in 1962 I was in my third year of college. I took the NYPD Police Cadet test and didn't pass nearly high enough to get a spot. What chance would I have when I took the PD test, or so I reasoned. If memory serves me right I wrote something like a 99. The Cadet test was a real test, the cop test was a Joke.

Sell that crap about your test being geared for only getting the best of the best for some jerks that believe your crap.

[skipster]

[QUOTE=UnregisteredGEDWINNERS;288886]I personally know many people who have no experience in law enforcement that have written 90+ on your retarded test. I know two very well that passed on the job for whatever personal reasons. Easy tests always have another reason other than attracting the very best. How are you jokers going to get your friends and relatives in if they write only an 80?

Back in 1962 I was in my third year of college. I took the NYPD Police Cadet test and didn't pass nearly high enough to get a spot. What chance would I have when I took the PD test, or so I reasoned. If memory serves me right I wrote something like a 99. The Cadet test was a real test, the cop test was a Joke.

If i du mye GED math rite you must bee aroun 69 or 70 yeers old... GET a Life douche bag

[UnregisteredYOUR GED]

[QUOTE=UnregisteredGEDWINNERS;288886]I personally know many people who have no experience in law enforcement that have written 90+ on your retarded test. I know two very well that passed on the job for whatever personal reasons. Easy tests always have another reason other than attracting the very best. How are you jokers going to get your friends and relatives in if they write only an 80?

Back in 1962 I was in my third year of college. I took the NYPD Police Cadet test and didn't pass nearly high enough to get a spot. What chance would I have when I took the PD test, or so I reasoned. If memory serves me right I wrote something like a 99. The Cadet test was a real test, the cop test was a Joke.

If i du mye GED math rite you must bee aroun 69 or 70 yeers old... GET a Life douche bag

WOW, YOU ARE A GENIUS - 67.

Why don't you just quit while you are ahead. Why don't you just count your blessings that you have a very good job with a very decent salary and leave it at that. Stop trying to make it look like we are lucky to have you. Your bullshit is getting stale.

[big yawn]

I personally know many people who have no experience in law enforcement that have written 90+ on your retarded test. I know two very well that passed on the job for whatever personal reasons. Easy tests always have another reason other than attracting the very best. How are you jokers going to get your friends and relatives in if they write only an 80?

Back in 1962 I was in my third year of college. I took the NYPD Police Cadet test and didn't pass nearly high enough to get a spot. What chance would I have when I took the PD test, or so I reasoned. If memory serves me right I wrote something like a 99. The Cadet test was a real test, the cop test was a Joke.

Sell that crap about your test being geared for only getting the best of the best for some jerks that believe your crap.

entrance exam is one of many tests you must pass. just getting a good score allows you to move on, but not guaranteed a job.
Thanks for sharing your "I could have had your job too" story...as if i dont hear them all the time.

[Unregisterggged]

I personally know many people who have no experience in law enforcement that have written 90+ on your retarded test. I know two very well that passed on the job for whatever personal reasons. Easy tests always have another reason other than attracting the very best. How are you jokers going to get your friends and relatives in if they write only an 80?



Most people taking the applicant test have no experience in law enforcement. Why else would they take it.

The underlying point is those who took the test, did well, passed all the required other tests, are doing better then the whiners on here who claim to be so educated, but make so much less...you want to claim you are smarter go ahead. You want to claim your job pushing paperclips around is more challenging, feel free.
The rest of us wont pass judgement, we'll just sit with our mouths shut and know the truth

[UnregisteredTHETRUTH]

Most people taking the applicant test have no experience in law enforcement. Why else would they take it.

The underlying point is those who took the test, did well, passed all the required other tests, are doing better then the whiners on here who claim to be so educated, but make so much less...you want to claim you are smarter go ahead. You want to claim your job pushing paperclips around is more challenging, feel free.
The rest of us wont pass judgement, we'll just sit with our mouths shut and know the truth

Is that it one of the best jobs in the world even though you won't become a millionaire. Most folks that apply for the job do so without even a thought of doing public service - stow it, it don't sell. What happens after they become cops is something else again.

Where else can one come to work and play 'cops and robbers' all day and have fun doing it. The best job you will ever have is the one you enjoy going to work to each day.

No special skills are required for the job as common sense is the most important tool you will ever have.

All you have to do to make it all worthwhile is to satisfy yourself that you are doing a good job in a very honorable profession.

[chickendick]

I personally know many people who have no experience in law enforcement that have written 90+ on your retarded test. I know two very well that passed on the job for whatever personal reasons. Easy tests always have another reason other than attracting the very best. How are you jokers going to get your friends and relatives in if they write only an 80?

Back in 1962 I was in my third year of college. I took the NYPD Police Cadet test and didn't pass nearly high enough to get a spot. What chance would I have when I took the PD test, or so I reasoned. If memory serves me right I wrote something like a 99. The Cadet test was a real test, the cop test was a Joke.

Sell that crap about your test being geared for only getting the best of the best for some jerks that believe your crap.

if you don't like being slammed to the mat all the time why don't you leave?....

[Unregistered9572]

I personally know many people who have no experience in law enforcement that have written 90+ on your retarded test. I know two very well that passed on the job for whatever personal reasons. Easy tests always have another reason other than attracting the very best. How are you jokers going to get your friends and relatives in if they write only an 80?

Back in 1962 I was in my third year of college. I took the NYPD Police Cadet test and didn't pass nearly high enough to get a spot. What chance would I have when I took the PD test, or so I reasoned. If memory serves me right I wrote something like a 99. The Cadet test was a real test, the cop test was a Joke.

Sell that crap about your test being geared for only getting the best of the best for some jerks that believe your crap.



what else could you have been ??? lets hear it old man. the way you are bragging you must have been real successful in your life.,,,, now what was it that you did with your college from the 60's, i laugh everyday that im on the same job with a masters, which i didnt need, and i LOVE it. now go die,,,and make sure u keep up with the taxes.

[UnregisteredExHwy]

Why were the suffolk police bosses and detectives stop at the crime scene on the LIE Monday? They were not even allowed near the area?

[Unregistered345]

Why were the suffolk police bosses and detectives stop at the crime scene on the LIE Monday? They were not even allowed near the area?

Would they let the deps into their crime scene?

[Unregisteredfnsdnf]

Why were the suffolk police bosses and detectives stop at the crime scene on the LIE Monday? They were not even allowed near the area?

Detectives? What have you been living under a rock?

[UnregisteredIFINDTHAT]

Detectives? What have you been living under a rock?

I assume you are referring to the death of P.O. Bowen. I don't see how it is possible SCPD detectives could be kept from an accident scene that resulted in a death of anyone, much less a police officer.

In that short period of time it would have been premature to rule out foul play by another party.

Does anyone know if this happened (if it happened) was the result of the issues raised in the death of a civilian in the car fire? Did it have anything to do with the alleged bogus report filed by the 4th Pct. detective?

Accent on the words: "if it happened" and 'alleged bogus report'. This simply doesn't make any sense to me.

[UnregisteredExHwy]

Would they let the deps into their crime scene?

They were doing the crime scene. That is why I was asking.

[UnregisteredAreYouSure]

They were doing the crime scene. That is why I was asking.


Thats because he was drunk and trying to outrun the deputies for a traffic ticket.

[UnregisteredFacts!]

I assume you are referring to the death of P.O. Bowen. I don't see how it is possible SCPD detectives could be kept from an accident scene that resulted in a death of anyone, much less a police officer.

In that short period of time it would have been premature to rule out foul play by another party.

Does anyone know if this happened (if it happened) was the result of the issues raised in the death of a civilian in the car fire? Did it have anything to do with the alleged bogus report filed by the 4th Pct. detective?

Accent on the words: "if it happened" and 'alleged bogus report'. This simply doesn't make any sense to me.

What alleged "Bogus Report" unless you are referring to the Bogus Sheriffs IAB report, then I can enlighten you!

[Unregisteredwtf..]

Would they let the deps into their crime scene?

If it was a dep? Or a relative of a dep, yes.

[Unregistered98765]

What alleged "Bogus Report" unless you are referring to the Bogus Sheriffs IAB report, then I can enlighten you!

Enlighten us oh great one, I do not live under a rock - but have not heard one single word about any SCSO Bogus Internal Affairs report. I have however read, heard, and been briefed about the 4th Pct Female Detective, initials M.O. , who "created" a very specific and detailed report by a witness to the accident that killed a father and his two children. Only to have the DA dismiss the report and launch an investigation into her conduct after it was learned that the person who supposedly signed the statement did not read or write in any language and could not speak English at all.

PS- I hear M.O. is currently, (frantically), attempting to learn Spanish using "ROSETTA STONE".

[Unregisteredwtd]

Would they let the deps into their crime scene?

In fact, its not really a "crime" scene, is it. It is a prolonged investigation, thta might utilize the 'crime scene" units and detectives to assist in the investigation, but that is more of a course of NYS law involving fatal motor vehicle crashes.
The times I have a fatal mva, if a member of service wants to enter the crime scene, I write their name on the log, and let them.

[whatadick]

Thats because he was drunk and trying to outrun the deputies for a traffic ticket.

Uh, if he was drunk(he wasnt) why would he not be trying to outrun the deps because he was going to be arrested for dwi??
At least be a competent troll...lol

[UnregisteredBogusReport?]

What alleged "Bogus Report" unless you are referring to the Bogus Sheriffs IAB report, then I can enlighten you!

I simply asked some questions about what happened out there. No finger pointing at anyone for any incident.

[UnregisteredFacts!]

Enlighten us oh great one, I do not live under a rock - but have not heard one single word about any SCSO Bogus Internal Affairs report. I have however read, heard, and been briefed about the 4th Pct Female Detective, initials M.O. , who "created" a very specific and detailed report by a witness to the accident that killed a father and his two children. Only to have the DA dismiss the report and launch an investigation into her conduct after it was learned that the person who supposedly signed the statement did not read or write in any language and could not speak English at all.

PS- I hear M.O. is currently, (frantically), attempting to learn Spanish using "ROSETTA STONE".

Too bad the certain "Witness" could read and write english better than yourself.............So there goes that Theory, Einstien! Have another one?

[urfullofshit]

Too bad the certain "Witness" could read and write english better than yourself.............So there goes that Theory, Einstien! Have another one?

Wrong, your so full of shit your eyes must be turning brown. I know you won't go back to the other thread so I will ask again here. Did the detective in question request legal representation from the SDA? Come on let us know.

[urfullofshit]

Too bad the certain "Witness" could read and write english better than yourself.............So there goes that Theory, Einstien! Have another one?

And congrats you spelled theory right!

[urfullofshit]

A direct quote from UnregisteredFacts! - "She didn't need a lawyer, because there was no wrong doing."

Really? So did she have a lawyer? I mean you do have the Facts!

[UnregisteredFacts!]

Wrong, your so full of shit your eyes must be turning brown. I know you won't go back to the other thread so I will ask again here. Did the detective in question request legal representation from the SDA? Come on let us know.

Not for the case in question! AK was there for another reason, so what else you have tpo spin? Still jealous that you don't make 160k a year Deputy Fife?

[urfullofshit]

Not for the case in question! AK was there for another reason, so what else you have tpo spin? Still jealous that you don't make 160k a year Deputy Fife?

At least your now in the same zip code as the truth. And yeah I'm jealous I missed your mark by 1.5k.

[Unregisteredoatssss]

At least your now in the same zip code as the truth. And yeah I'm jealous I missed your mark by 1.5k.

And how many hours of your life did that take?

[Unregistereddd]

And congrats you spelled theory right!

...which is an amazing thing because you guys are cops...

[Unregisterednot]

...which is an amazing thing because you guys are cops...

And you are? Oh a troll with no life posting here at 845 when most people are either working or commuting.