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Unregistered 9876
06-12-2009, 01:31 AM
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/suffolk/ny-licope1212869157jun11,0,5073956.story

They did it again when is this guy going to leave SCPD before there is no more, Guys time for us to show them, Lock up everybody end of tour and let Steve pay the overtime bill. Dormer will be known in the Suffolk Police Dept as the worst leader ever, hope he does not mind the day he retires guys will be looking to lock him up when he drinks and drives just like his boy.

UnregisteredDORMEY
06-12-2009, 08:27 AM
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/suffolk/ny-licope1212869157jun11,0,5073956.story

They did it again when is this guy going to leave SCPD before there is no more, Guys time for us to show them, Lock up everybody end of tour and let Steve pay the overtime bill. Dormer will be known in the Suffolk Police Dept as the worst leader ever, hope he does not mind the day he retires guys will be looking to lock him up when he drinks and drives just like his boy.

Are you now saying you know that Dormer has a swig or two and drives? Are you also saying his son has a few and drives. Is that the son that was a 'victim' outside a bar?

Unregistereditshappened
06-12-2009, 08:33 AM
Are you now saying you know that Dormer has a swig or two and drives?
you need to ask the former hwy cop that stopped him a few years back, and was banished to mids in the 5th because he didnt recognize him as the fn irish drunk he is.

unregistered 6
06-12-2009, 08:48 AM
do not volunteer for cope if asked to go....no more reaching for carrots! What's next? CCU? It sure would be nice if Ponzo spoke up! Don't tell us how you love this job and then allow guys like Dormer and moore to spit upon you and the job! Time to stand up

UnREAL....
06-12-2009, 08:57 AM
do not volunteer for cope if asked to go....no more reaching for carrots! What's next? CCU? It sure would be nice if Ponzo spoke up! Don't tell us how you love this job and then allow guys like Dormer and moore to spit upon you and the job! Time to stand up

WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH THE PRISONER RUN,GETTIN THE 40 RUN,PICKIN UP THE CO'S DRY CLEANING, DO A COUPLE OF PATROL CHECKS,AND WRITE FEW PIECES OF PAPER. DON'T FORGET YOURE WORKIN THAT STRAWBERRY FESTIVAL TOMORROW. GLORIFIED RELIEF DRIVERS,THAT'S ALL.

PATROL GUYS BETTER CARE. YOU JUST LOST SENIORITY AND WHAT EVER LITTLE OT WAS LEFT.

KEEP PLUGGIN AWAY, THIS IS HOW THIS IDIOT REWARDS HIS HARDEST WORKIN COPS! GANG UNITS AND PCS, HE'S COMIN FOR YOU TOO

Unregisteredqqq
06-12-2009, 09:07 AM
WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH THE PRISONER RUN,GETTIN THE 40 RUN,PICKIN UP THE CO'S DRY CLEANING, DO A COUPLE OF PATROL CHECKS,AND WRITE FEW PIECES OF PAPER. DON'T FORGET YOURE WORKIN THAT STRAWBERRY FESTIVAL TOMORROW. GLORIFIED RELIEF DRIVERS,THAT'S ALL.

PATROL GUYS BETTER CARE. YOU JUST LOST SENIORITY AND WHAT EVER LITTLE OT WAS LEFT.

KEEP PLUGGIN AWAY, THIS IS HOW THIS IDIOT REWARDS HIS HARDEST WORKIN COPS! GANG UNITS AND PCS, HE'S COMIN FOR YOU TOO

as long as they dont banish cope to mids, there will always be o/t.
If I was in cope, I'd put up some zeros over the next few months....

howlong.
06-12-2009, 09:15 AM
as long as they dont banish cope to mids, there will always be o/t.
If I was in cope, I'd put up some zeros over the next few months....

when they see how fat the two tour is, dont u think they'll "shift" some to mids? the whole union should respond to this. congrats to the 1st 30 command. everyone needs to act out now, on a regular basis.

Unregistered_Shut_It_Down
06-12-2009, 09:17 AM
Hate to remind you, but since the COPE command (420) will most likely be eliminated with this order, they will be called on the same list for the midnight OT as you are in the 410 command. No longer will they be on the backup list as CCU still is. (For now anyway). In other more simple terms, your competition for that OT just grew by the amount of COPE cops in your command. The Det's and Bosses chose their side. Up to the guys on the street to take this job back now before it's too late PERIOD

bono474121
06-12-2009, 09:21 AM
what happened with the 1st's 30 command that congrats are being given?

Unregisteredawqx
06-12-2009, 09:21 AM
Hate to remind you, but since the COPE command (420) will most likely be eliminated with this order, they will be called on the same list for the midnight OT as you are in the 410 command. No longer will they be on the backup list as CCU still is. (For now anyway). In other more simple terms, your competition for that OT just grew by the amount of COPE cops in your command. The Det's and Bosses chose their side. Up to the guys on the street to take this job back now before it's too late PERIOD


Why should anyone shut it down for 30 command? did they shut it down for 10?
Are they going to shut it down now?
Doubt it

Unregistereddtt
06-12-2009, 09:24 AM
Hate to remind you, but since the COPE command (420) will most likely be eliminated with this order, they will be called on the same list for the midnight OT as you are in the 410 command. No longer will they be on the backup list as CCU still is. (For now anyway). In other more simple terms, your competition for that OT just grew by the amount of COPE cops in your command. The Det's and Bosses chose their side. Up to the guys on the street to take this job back now before it's too late PERIOD

ehh its 30 not 20, you dope.
and cope guys are divas, they arent going to work mids....

Unregisteredygygygyg
06-12-2009, 09:29 AM
Why should anyone shut it down for 30 command? did they shut it down for 10?
Are they going to shut it down now?
Doubt it

true, even highway guys didn't shut it down. they are writing more than anyone within the precincts.

Unregistered_Up_To_Us
06-12-2009, 09:46 AM
Sorry, I was thinking ahead about CCU as I was typing but I meant the 430 command. Anyway, I totally hear you about their embarrassing actions last year but to answer you, the whole job as we know it is about to disappear and MAYBE, just maybe the (former) COPE guys will now get the message. Despite the atrocious lack of leadership by the Chiefs coupled with the complete failure to adequately respond by the suits in the PBA, it's high time for the street cops, no matter what pct you're in, to act unitedly for the first time in a VERY long time. Like it's been said, there's no "carrot" to dangle in front of you anymore guys. Where are you gonna go? Put your career aspirations on hold for the meantime while there's still a SCPD left to defend.

Unregisteredsfd
06-12-2009, 10:00 AM
Sorry, I was thinking ahead about CCU as I was typing but I meant the 430 command. Anyway, I totally hear you about their embarrassing actions last year but to answer you, the whole job as we know it is about to disappear and MAYBE, just maybe the (former) COPE guys will now get the message. Despite the atrocious lack of leadership by the Chiefs coupled with the complete failure to adequately respond by the suits in the PBA, it's high time for the street cops, no matter what pct you're in, to act unitedly for the first time in a VERY long time. Like it's been said, there's no "carrot" to dangle in front of you anymore guys. Where are you gonna go? Put your career aspirations on hold for the meantime while there's still a SCPD left to defend.

we'll see what cope does. the ball is in their court.

Unregistered110
06-12-2009, 10:41 AM
Enough Is Enough !!! Can The Union For Once Come Together As A Whole And Make A Statement

whocaresaboutCOPE
06-12-2009, 10:42 AM
enjoy relief operating COPE boys. about time you guys were brought down a notch or 2. you mean you guys will have to show up to work on time and not get a 2 hour lunch and 2 hours to work out. BOO HOO.

Unregistered110
06-12-2009, 10:44 AM
the ball shouldnt be in copes court ....the union needs to come together for ONCE and do something about it

Unregisteredrfgbrf
06-12-2009, 11:00 AM
the ball shouldnt be in copes court ....the union needs to come together for ONCE and do something about it

So if they are still writing 100 a month and arresting every agg unlicensed we are expected to do what?
The ball is in their court. When we went to them, they refused to back us. I dont know if they are even going to do anything. if not, why should we?

ugotit out
06-12-2009, 11:06 AM
enjoy relief operating COPE boys. about time you guys were brought down a notch or 2. you mean you guys will have to show up to work on time and not get a 2 hour lunch and 2 hours to work out. BOO HOO.

now that u got it out,step back and realize how this will affect the patrol guys. grab a body for every little thing,take ur time on all the paperwork,it can be a lil involved, give the community your full attention on every call,go the extra mile on every call,no matter how long it takes,dont stack calls,one at a time.... tickets dont matter,levy said it himself. 32 for vtl violations,long forms take time.

Unregisteredunity??
06-12-2009, 11:07 AM
Cope guys i know have no plans on shutting it down..

soa understands
06-12-2009, 11:10 AM
now that u got it out,step back and realize how this will affect the patrol guys. grab a body for every little thing,take ur time on all the paperwork,it can be a lil involved, give the community your full attention on every call,go the extra mile on every call,no matter how long it takes,dont stack calls,one at a time.... tickets dont matter,levy said it himself. 32 for vtl violations,long forms take time.

the bosses will understand after they just got stabbed in the back for makin a deal with the devil. 5 LT, he didnt say in that order though.

Uhoooooooooooooooooooo
06-12-2009, 11:12 AM
Cope guys i know have no plans on shutting it down..

they will now,and there aint no carrot anymore. thats when the donkey has to bite back

Unregisteredunity??
06-12-2009, 11:17 AM
they will now,and there aint no carrot anymore. thats when the donkey has to bite back

dude i'm talking about a conversation i had less then 30 minutes ago.

Donkey?
06-12-2009, 11:17 AM
they will now,and there aint no carrot anymore. thats when the donkey has to bite back

The only part of your post that is even close is the fact that we are the Donkey! A toothless Donkey it seems. I am not sure if this whole thing is just about the PBA having met it's match in the Devious Midget Levy, or if all the help the bosses at HQ have been giving him have stacked the deck too high for Frayler this time. Whatever the case is, we are in dire straights and a lot of us haven't even woken up yet. Yesterday I heard someone say that he "didn't care" because now all the azzkissers would have to fight each other just to maintain their political jobs, Detective, Special Services Sections, etc. He said he didn't care! I do not get this.

Unregistered$$$$$$$$
06-12-2009, 11:20 AM
good thing our dues got increased by 60%, with that extra $28 PBA is taking from all of us. That contract better be very favorable!!!

Unregisteredivided
06-12-2009, 11:21 AM
The only part of your post that is even close is the fact that we are the Donkey! A toothless Donkey it seems. I am not sure if this whole thing is just about the PBA having met it's match in the Devious Midget Levy, or if all the help the bosses at HQ have been giving him have stacked the deck too high for Frayler this time. Whatever the case is, we are in dire straights and a lot of us haven't even woken up yet. Yesterday I heard someone say that he "didn't care" because now all the azzkissers would have to fight each other just to maintain their political jobs, Detective, Special Services Sections, etc. He said he didn't care! I do not get this.

Its not Frayler writing 5 times what patrol does, its exhwy and cope.
we are divided and levy knows it. cant beat him when everyone puts their personal issues ahead of the union

u'll care now
06-12-2009, 11:35 AM
enjoy relief operating COPE boys. about time you guys were brought down a notch or 2. you mean you guys will have to show up to work on time and not get a 2 hour lunch and 2 hours to work out. BOO HOO.

little things like time off affect morale. i dont know where you are on the vacation pix,but did u enjoy a couple sets off in the summer? not anymore bro. you'll be pickin last. ot, by-bye. moving on to bigger things,take a number,the line just got longer unless u have a speedpass. we need to unite. NOW! all patrol cops.

Unregistered65989
06-12-2009, 11:47 AM
What does COPE do exactly, as a citizen, I see them as enforcing stop sign violations and people smoking pot and having big parties. Any other duties involved. Not trying to be an a-hole just wondering

itsfrailer
06-12-2009, 12:12 PM
I am sure the PBA can spin this that it is all the Deputies fault. It has nothing to do with the fact that Frayler has no idea what he is doing.

Typical2
06-12-2009, 12:27 PM
Im assuming all the Cope Sgt's will be going back to patrol also? What and only a week after they rolled over and gave up their Holiday pay...no one should be surprised. Hopefully the PBA isnt negotiating anything with Levy. Get our arbitration contracts and move on.

Harry's Place
06-12-2009, 12:46 PM
What does COPE do exactly, as a citizen, I see them as enforcing stop sign violations and people smoking pot and having big parties. Any other duties involved. Not trying to be an a-hole just wondering

COPE primarily worked on identified-community problems; speeding vehicle complaints, drug use and sales, prostitution, youth disturbances, downtown or village areas, etc. They also attended community meetings and met with residents to hash problems out. They worked closely with school groups and met with the kids. COPE was an active command who's summons and arrest stats outnumbered most others.

All we do now is answer 911 calls after a problem develops-insurance reports.

UnregisteredITOLD U SO
06-12-2009, 12:48 PM
That your time was coming. Levy knows the PD is his main enemy and will do anything to destroy him. I said you will be getting little nicks and cuts until you can't stop the bleeding. You may even lose that "Accredition" status you so proudly post on your patrol cars.

The first signs of an attempt to shift power from the PBA and police department was when Dormer made a very symbolic move of taking Major Case (DA'S goons) and the Intel Unit out of the Detective Command and placing it under the police commissioner's office. It was meant to be a message to those that seek power for themselves.

You don't have the backing of the public anymore - you just think you do, and so do some of those nitwits in the legislature think you do. Any goodwill you had went out with the 401K's.

Continuing to condone charges that the CE hangs out in the park and rides doesn't do you any good. To say he said the "n" word at a meeting and hang it over his head isn't going to do you much good either.

Unregistered 6534
06-12-2009, 12:53 PM
That your time was coming. Levy knows the PD is his main enemy and will do anything to destroy him. I said you will be getting little nicks and cuts until you can't stop the bleeding. You may even lose that "Accredition" status you so proudly post on your patrol cars.

The first signs of an attempt to shift power from the PBA and police department was when Dormer made a very symbolic move of taking Major Case (DA'S goons) and the Intel Unit out of the Detective Command and placing it under the police commissioner's office. It was meant to be a message to those that seek power for themselves.

You don't have the backing of the public anymore - you just think you do, and so do some of those nitwits in the legislature think you do. Any goodwill you had went out with the 401K's.


Continuing to condone charges that the CE hangs out in the park and rides doesn't do you any good. To say he said the "n" word at a meeting and hang it over his head isn't going to do you much good either.

He has done both and since the State is now looking at him also it has been forwarded to the Feds lets see what happens , everyday in the paper a political figure is being charged . What ever goes around comes around.

Unregisteregoofydeps
06-12-2009, 01:08 PM
I am sure the PBA can spin this that it is all the Deputies fault. It has nothing to do with the fact that Frayler has no idea what he is doing.

Get over yourself. you fools cant even handle highway, and you want to go to cope? 50 arrests a year and 70 summonses a month.
PER COP.
We blame you for being scabs, stealing hwy. When you get bike trained, etc and wear the goofy hats on a bike then come talk

ignorant999
06-12-2009, 02:26 PM
enjoy relief operating COPE boys. about time you guys were brought down a notch or 2. you mean you guys will have to show up to work on time and not get a 2 hour lunch and 2 hours to work out. BOO HOO.

EVEN BETTER YOU CAN MAKE 28 ARRESTS IN AN 8 YEAR CAREER, 5 TICKETS A MONTH IF YOUR LUCKY, HANG OUT AT THE DINER FOR BREAKFAST WITH 5 OTHER PDS , THEN TO THE FIREHOUSE FOR LUNCH WITH THE SAME PDS. HOLD YOUR CALLS SO YOU DONT HAVE TO GO INTO ANOTHER SECTOR TO PICK UP ANY EXTRA CALLS. DONT FORGET ALL THOSE HARD WORKING COPE BOYS ARE ENFORCING THE LAW IN "OUR" NEIGHBORHOODS AND PROTECTING "OUR" CHILDREN. SO DONT BE PISSED OFF WHEN THAT GUY W/O A LICENSE GOES THROUGH A STOP SIGN AND HITS YOUR FAMILY BECAUSE YOU WERE TO LAZY TO WRITE A PIECE OF PAPER. THERE ARE ALOT OF HARD WORKERS WHO WOULD LOVE TO BE ON OUR JOB AND JUST BECAUSE YOU WERE " LUCKY" ENOUGH TO SCORE HIGH ON THE TEST DOESNT MAKE YOU EXEMPT.

get ova u self
06-12-2009, 03:07 PM
EVEN BETTER YOU CAN MAKE 28 ARRESTS IN AN 8 YEAR CAREER, 5 TICKETS A MONTH IF YOUR LUCKY, HANG OUT AT THE DINER FOR BREAKFAST WITH 5 OTHER PDS , THEN TO THE FIREHOUSE FOR LUNCH WITH THE SAME PDS. HOLD YOUR CALLS SO YOU DONT HAVE TO GO INTO ANOTHER SECTOR TO PICK UP ANY EXTRA CALLS. DONT FORGET ALL THOSE HARD WORKING COPE BOYS ARE ENFORCING THE LAW IN "OUR" NEIGHBORHOODS AND PROTECTING "OUR" CHILDREN. SO DONT BE PISSED OFF WHEN THAT GUY W/O A LICENSE GOES THROUGH A STOP SIGN AND HITS YOUR FAMILY BECAUSE YOU WERE TO LAZY TO WRITE A PIECE OF PAPER. THERE ARE ALOT OF HARD WORKERS WHO WOULD LOVE TO BE ON OUR JOB AND JUST BECAUSE YOU WERE " LUCKY" ENOUGH TO SCORE HIGH ON THE TEST DOESNT MAKE YOU EXEMPT.

Are you really trying to use scare tactics on other cops?
How often does the guy without a license run the stop sign and kill a cops family?
And what are you going to do? Write him a summons? And that is going to stop him from driving?

not ignorant000
06-12-2009, 03:14 PM
EVEN BETTER YOU CAN MAKE 28 ARRESTS IN AN 8 YEAR CAREER, 5 TICKETS A MONTH IF YOUR LUCKY, HANG OUT AT THE DINER FOR BREAKFAST WITH 5 OTHER PDS , THEN TO THE FIREHOUSE FOR LUNCH WITH THE SAME PDS. HOLD YOUR CALLS SO YOU DONT HAVE TO GO INTO ANOTHER SECTOR TO PICK UP ANY EXTRA CALLS. DONT FORGET ALL THOSE HARD WORKING COPE BOYS ARE ENFORCING THE LAW IN "OUR" NEIGHBORHOODS AND PROTECTING "OUR" CHILDREN. SO DONT BE PISSED OFF WHEN THAT GUY W/O A LICENSE GOES THROUGH A STOP SIGN AND HITS YOUR FAMILY BECAUSE YOU WERE TO LAZY TO WRITE A PIECE OF PAPER. THERE ARE ALOT OF HARD WORKERS WHO WOULD LOVE TO BE ON OUR JOB AND JUST BECAUSE YOU WERE " LUCKY" ENOUGH TO SCORE HIGH ON THE TEST DOESNT MAKE YOU EXEMPT.
dont confuse writing 5 summons a day and holding yourself out on a v/t so as you are 28 with working hard.
dont confuse clearing a meal and poaching 45s from your neighboring sectors with working hard.
dont confuse arrests ever agg un 2nd with working hard, while your sector is being covered by cars 3 sectors away.
dont pretend the arrests and tickets you write and arrest are anything but fluff.
the unlicensed guy would still be driving, even if he was ticketed by a cope officer, believe it or not.
most cope guys are hard workers, for themselves, and not for the squad, so while you are more productive then the slug, you arent any better.
I'm going to enjoy watching you guys doing the 45 runs, and filling my car when i want off with my family.

yeah ok, right
06-12-2009, 03:31 PM
Are you really trying to use scare tactics on other cops?
How often does the guy without a license run the stop sign and kill a cops family?
And what are you going to do? Write him a summons? And that is going to stop him from driving?

The ticket might be flying around lose and momentarily blind him, causing him to swerve and miss my family, taking out a non-cops....thats the importance of a cope ticket

Unregistereddd
06-12-2009, 03:45 PM
Levy Has My Vote This Next Election!!!! Lol Lol Lol Lol

It's About Time There's A Power Shift In The County.

Unregistere d is for dumb
06-12-2009, 03:47 PM
Levy Has My Vote This Next Election!!!! Lol Lol Lol Lol

It's About Time There's A Power Shift In The County.

Thanks for sharing skippy, in case you didnt notice the topic was cope.

Unregistered 8745
06-12-2009, 03:48 PM
He has done both and since the State is now looking at him also it has been forwarded to the Feds lets see what happens , everyday in the paper a political figure is being charged . What ever goes around comes around.

He is being looked at as you guess speak does not look good

Harry's Place
06-12-2009, 03:55 PM
Get over yourself. you fools cant even handle highway, and you want to go to cope? 50 arrests a year and 70 summonses a month.
PER COP.
We blame you for being scabs, stealing hwy. When you get bike trained, etc and wear the goofy hats on a bike then come talk

COPE conducted surviellances at malls and train stations for thieves breaking into cars. With the unit being disbanded don't expect much if you're to stupid to lock valuables in your trunk.

We'll give a case number for your insurance.

Unregistered110
06-12-2009, 05:26 PM
fellas this shouldnt be about pointing the finger at 1 another ........this is another HUGE LOSS for this department as a whole! whats next?? we need to come together on this

Unregistered696969
06-12-2009, 11:21 PM
Marine is next.

Unregistered321423
06-12-2009, 11:31 PM
Sinking Ship...

i'm dizzy
06-13-2009, 08:04 AM
I am sure the PBA can spin this that it is all the Deputies fault. It has nothing to do with the fact that Frayler has no idea what he is doing.

so dick says he's putting all the cope cops back into the 10 command,but he's not disbanding the 30 command. the cope cops will be mixed in with patrol squads, and cops will rotate in and out. i think that is what a relief driver is. my head was spinning when i read junior was a hero during a bar fight that ended with a knife in the back. the spinning is getting me light headed,stop the ride,stop the ride... he's leaving his mark as a commisioner.

Unreffddtgyh
06-13-2009, 09:42 AM
Are you now saying you know that Dormer has a swig or two and drives? Are you also saying his son has a few and drives. Is that the son that was a 'victim' outside a bar?

just wait, his little boy will be on the job one day!

HCL
06-13-2009, 10:54 AM
just wait, his little boy will be on the job one day!

Maybe he'll be a Deputy

Unregisteredfjdlfjee
06-13-2009, 11:34 AM
We are all going to be deputies!!!

SKIPSTER
06-13-2009, 02:05 PM
We are all going to be deputies!!!

ACTUALY, THAT MIGHT NOT BE TOO BAD

Unregistered111
06-13-2009, 02:40 PM
ACTUALY, THAT MIGHT NOT BE TOO BAD

our salary, their o/t,...oh yeah

Unregistered39434343
06-15-2009, 11:21 AM
Why aren't any chiefs speaking up or leaving? Weren't all chiefs at one time or another a pct CO? There is no way anyone who is or was a PCT CO can stand by and say that COPE wasn't very valuable to them not only for stats but for dealing with all the community complaints that each CO gets along with a ton of other assignments that can't be handled effectively by patrol. There is no way that will be accomplished without a separate command for COPE. The silence is deafening! and so so sad. Go out like a respected man and not a gutless yes man! Who knows, if you need to be a chief so bad and be in charge maybe you will actually have the respect of the men and be a choice for PC when the time comes to turn this dept back around!

Unregistered 2629
06-15-2009, 11:30 AM
Why aren't any chiefs speaking up or leaving? Weren't all chiefs at one time or another a pct CO? !

LOL... not under this current administration! You would think a requirement to even be a chief would be to have run a PCT. But Dormer has changed the criteria to having worked on Levy's campaign!

Harry's Place
06-15-2009, 11:45 AM
Why aren't any chiefs speaking up or leaving? Weren't all chiefs at one time or another a pct CO? There is no way anyone who is or was a PCT CO can stand by and say that COPE wasn't very valuable to them not only for stats but for dealing with all the community complaints that each CO gets along with a ton of other assignments that can't be handled effectively by patrol. There is no way that will be accomplished without a separate command for COPE. The silence is deafening! and so so sad. Go out like a respected man and not a gutless yes man! Who knows, if you need to be a chief so bad and be in charge maybe you will actually have the respect of the men and be a choice for PC when the time comes to turn this dept back around!

No CO will get a star if he says anything.

copekissass
06-15-2009, 04:54 PM
Why aren't any chiefs speaking up or leaving? Weren't all chiefs at one time or another a pct CO? There is no way anyone who is or was a PCT CO can stand by and say that COPE wasn't very valuable to them not only for stats but for dealing with all the community complaints that each CO gets along with a ton of other assignments that can't be handled effectively by patrol. There is no way that will be accomplished without a separate command for COPE. The silence is deafening! and so so sad. Go out like a respected man and not a gutless yes man! Who knows, if you need to be a chief so bad and be in charge maybe you will actually have the respect of the men and be a choice for PC when the time comes to turn this dept back around!

They'll just have the same guys do it, do you think they'll say no? The carrot will still dangle

Unregisteredone
06-15-2009, 09:18 PM
They'll just have the same guys do it, do you think they'll say no? The carrot will still dangle

There's always going to be guys out there hammering away.... but with all the changes... it's getting harder and harder to see that carrot! Shame is that over and over though the years the department has tried to establish a career path for the guys out there without the connections to get anywhere.

I guess now that the sheriff seems to think that warnings are as effective as paper... we should all be giving out a LOT more warnings! It's tough out there right now for folks.... I'm sure not having to part with $100+ in this economy will be well received!

yaheard
06-15-2009, 10:29 PM
t.t. came out today for cope. i guess when the ponz leaked that story,dick had no choice but to go with it. torment the workers and make them miserable,so they'll bang on the front door on church st. please make it stop,please please. fuck that, let em play their pussy little games. put us wherever u want. all the checks are still coming,and the contract is coming too. u can't hurt us, dont matter anymore.

eggsactley
06-15-2009, 10:34 PM
t.t. came out today for cope. i guess when the ponz leaked that story,dick had no choice but to go with it. torment the workers and make them miserable,so they'll bang on the front door on church st. please make it stop,please please. fuck that, let em play their pussy little games. put us wherever u want. all the checks are still coming,and the contract is coming too. u can't hurt us, dont matter anymore.

One of the best post I've seen here in a long time !

anytime.
06-15-2009, 11:05 PM
One of the best post I've seen here in a long time !

im starting to feel like andy dufrain in shawshank. levy is the guy who plays the head of the "sisters". soon enuf we'll all be back in patrol,and there wont be anything left to threaten us with. it's liberating when you just dont care about your career anymore.thanx dick, you just added 90 more "dont give a fuck" cops to patrol. ask anyone, thats where we all had the most fun anyway. thanx again dick. relief driver is lookin real good for someone who doesnt care anymore.

Unregisteredkhgdghkbdk
06-16-2009, 01:21 AM
who gives a fuk anyway?? sounds like my job just got a lot easier. no tickets this month, next month or the next. the public is goin to love me! every tom dik and harry i pull over will be let go with a smile on my face. i hope everyone is on the same page because we are all in the same boat. keep in mind boys and girls mr levy could give a shit about us, so we better not give a shit about him or the bosses when they ask for more paper. the only thing we should be doing is locking up at the end of tour for the ot's.....

Unregistered Yeah right
06-16-2009, 08:29 AM
One of the best post I've seen here in a long time !

Great post if you are a follower of chest thumping idiots! This is the type of mentality that our PBA has and this is the type of mentality that has us right here fighting for our lives as a unit. The fact is that they can hurt us, they intend on hurting us and there is little we can do right now to stop them from injuring this job and all of us further. We are set up as a bullying machine and Levy, (having been bullied his whole life), is very adept at facing down the bully. We have a problem, and the only thing to do right now is not panic, do our jobs just as always and show anyone who might be looking that we are not going to react to their BS. Be safe and be strong!

UnregisteredQUESTION
06-16-2009, 10:09 AM
Great post if you are a follower of chest thumping idiots! This is the type of mentality that our PBA has and this is the type of mentality that has us right here fighting for our lives as a unit. The fact is that they can hurt us, they intend on hurting us and there is little we can do right now to stop them from injuring this job and all of us further. We are set up as a bullying machine and Levy, (having been bullied his whole life), is very adept at facing down the bully. We have a problem, and the only thing to do right now is not panic, do our jobs just as always and show anyone who might be looking that we are not going to react to their BS. Be safe and be strong!

Can you speculate on this question? If you guys are in arbitration, why is Levy taking pot shots at you now? I think he is getting very close to violating fair labor standards for negotiations. What is the purpose of doing this if the arbitrators come down with a decision? Is it a sign of weakness on Levy's part?

You are wise to advise that the cops should sit back and WAIT, at least until the arbitrator renders the decision - there isn't much you can do about it anyway.

Unregistered 2629
06-16-2009, 10:23 AM
You still have a job no matter what. I'm not saying what Dormer is doing doesn't hurt morale and should not be addressed. But if this were private business (like I'm in)... we don't have the job and pay protection you have and decisions made by higher ups can really hurt us significantly.

THIS IS NOT a "stop your whining" post by any means. Just saying keep your heads up.. .you do a good job for us. I'm glad you make $100K+ and remember, most of you will out last Levy and Dormer anyway!

Unregisteredzssdd
06-16-2009, 04:38 PM
You still have a job no matter what. I'm not saying what Dormer is doing doesn't hurt morale and should not be addressed. But if this were private business (like I'm in)... we don't have the job and pay protection you have and decisions made by higher ups can really hurt us significantly.

THIS IS NOT a "stop your whining" post by any means. Just saying keep your heads up.. .you do a good job for us. I'm glad you make $100K+ and remember, most of you will out last Levy and Dormer anyway!

no one is talking about doing anything that hurts the public.
frankly I think most of what the dept is doing hurts the public more then us

Unregistered Done
06-16-2009, 08:22 PM
You still have a job no matter what. I'm not saying what Dormer is doing doesn't hurt morale and should not be addressed. But if this were private business (like I'm in)... we don't have the job and pay protection you have and decisions made by higher ups can really hurt us significantly.

THIS IS NOT a "stop your whining" post by any means. Just saying keep your heads up.. .you do a good job for us. I'm glad you make $100K+ and remember, most of you will out last Levy and Dormer anyway!

Hang in there Steve Levys days are numbered and when he is either not relected or out lasted his post he will be just a taxpayer like us. Then what ever goes around comes around if I were him I would move off Long Island because there will be people looking for him to mess up then he will know the justice system. How good will that feel

Unregistered222
06-16-2009, 09:52 PM
enjoy relief operating COPE boys. about time you guys were brought down a notch or 2. you mean you guys will have to show up to work on time and not get a 2 hour lunch and 2 hours to work out. BOO HOO.

to the slug that wrote this the cope guy probably worked harder in the 4 hours that he or she probably was there than ur sorry ass has in your life!!!!!!!!

Unregisteredtypical
06-16-2009, 10:35 PM
Hang in there Steve Levys days are numbered and when he is either not relected or out lasted his post he will be just a taxpayer like us. Then what ever goes around comes around if I were him I would move off Long Island because there will be people looking for him to mess up then he will know the justice system. How good will that feel

what a complete asinine thing to say on a public board if you are a cop.

UnregisteredThinker
06-16-2009, 11:28 PM
Great post if you are a follower of chest thumping idiots! This is the type of mentality that our PBA has and this is the type of mentality that has us right here fighting for our lives as a unit. The fact is that they can hurt us, they intend on hurting us and there is little we can do right now to stop them from injuring this job and all of us further. We are set up as a bullying machine and Levy, (having been bullied his whole life), is very adept at facing down the bully. We have a problem, and the only thing to do right now is not panic, do our jobs just as always and show anyone who might be looking that we are not going to react to their BS. Be safe and be strong!

I agree with your post, it shows you actually gave this some thought before you started pecking away. Good!

notaslouch
06-18-2009, 08:20 AM
Great post if you are a follower of chest thumping idiots! This is the type of mentality that our PBA has and this is the type of mentality that has us right here fighting for our lives as a unit. The fact is that they can hurt us, they intend on hurting us and there is little we can do right now to stop them from injuring this job and all of us further. We are set up as a bullying machine and Levy, (having been bullied his whole life), is very adept at facing down the bully. We have a problem, and the only thing to do right now is not panic, do our jobs just as always and show anyone who might be looking that we are not going to react to their BS. Be safe and be strong!

when did standing up for yourself become a metaphore for "chest thumping"? did the pba bully steve when they endorsed him? he ran unopposed,but they didn't have to endorse him on his 2nd term. and did you think they would have left us alone when dormer claimed he could run this department with 1200 cops like it was in the seventies? if anyone was the initial bully,it's been steve since he was a legislature back in sayville. and for the record,a reaction is not the same as panic. do you think if we ignore what they are doing it will go away? we can't do anything to prevent it,because we don't know what they'll do next,so that results in a reaction. you say to be strong, well that means stand up and remain erect,like a man,at least if you lose, you went down with some pride.

Cope is back
06-19-2009, 08:03 AM
Thanks to the hard work of the PBA and the legislature, Dormer and Levy were embarrassed once again and COPE was reinstated! Dormer had no idea what hit him!

igotitfrombehind
06-19-2009, 08:16 AM
Thanks to the hard work of the PBA and the legislature, Dormer and Levy were embarrassed once again and COPE was reinstated! Dormer had no idea what hit him!

i read that in the paper not long ago. except it was JR. at a bar fight who didn't see it coming

Unregistered110
06-19-2009, 11:42 AM
is comand 130 OFFICIALLY back?

Unregistered110
06-19-2009, 11:44 AM
along with every other 30 command as well????

Unregistered110
06-19-2009, 11:51 AM
rumor has it only certain 30 commands were reinstated