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06-10-2009, 08:27 PM
Officer Kenneth Baribault's life was torn to shreds by a drunk driver - and how do his police colleagues respond?

By holding a fund raiser at an establishment that serves drunk drivers. Holy Moses. Do these officers have any sense of propriety? Who do you think attended this fund raiser...teetotalers?

Why did the Nassau PBA hold a fund raiser at an establishment that serves alcohol? No doubt the PBA realizes that once it's members get some liquor in them they are prone to donate more then if they were not impaired or intoxicated. Another reason is because they realize many of their union members absolutely love ingesting this mind altering drug and will show up in great numbers to use it.

We all have at least one friend or relative who benefited from a cop who caught them driving drunk and took their keys, drove them home or called a cab instead of arresting them. After their brother officer was nearly killed by a drunk driver, I wonder if any of these police officers felt any remorse or shame for not arresting your impaired or intoxicated friend or relative?

We live in a society that many years ago declared a war on drugs. Yet we allow anyone with a valid ID to obtain this recreational drug at anytime of day.

Many, if not all cops can relate stories about how they observed alcohol destroy the lives of innocent people who were victimized by alcohol users. Yet, these horror stories have done little to dissuade officers from using this drug.

In fact, by holding a police fund raiser at an establishment that serves alcohol, the police sent a clear message that they too revel in it's mind altering properties. Tell me, notwithstanding the law, how is alcohol any different from cocaine, heroin or crack?

Officers are on duty 24/7. In case of emergency, police officers must remain fit for duty at all times, except when on sick leave.

For our own safety, isn't it time we demand our public officials take the necessary steps to contractually forbid police officers from using this drug, as they have with other dangerous drugs that have a profound effect on people's judgment and demeanor?

My heart goes out to Officer Kenneth Baribault. Watching him exit the courthouse in a wheel chair that has become his only means of mobility makes me want to cry. Yet, I can't help but think the police culture that he is a part of contributed to his condition.

http://www.nassaupba.org/public/PBA_in_the_news/in_the_news/baribault-fundraiser.shtml

Remembering Katie Flynn & Stan Rabinowitz...as well as Nassau Police Inspector Vincent Muscarnera, who after crashing a county police car while heavily intoxicated, was the 'guest of honor' at a lavish retirement party provided by his high ranking police colleagues.

Unregisteredgtfooh
06-10-2009, 11:51 PM
By holding a fund raiser at an establishment that serves drunk drivers. .

So they pull up in their cars and get drinks???????????

lame post
06-10-2009, 11:53 PM
Officers are on duty 24/7. In case of emergency, police officers must remain fit for duty at all times, except when on sick leave.

For our own safety, isn't it time we demand our public officials take the necessary steps to contractually forbid police officers from using this drug, as they have with other dangerous drugs that have a profound effect on people's judgment and demeanor?

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Except when they cannot act, like if they had a few drinks.
and yes police are forbidden to be drunk/drinking while working.

UnregisteredDonor
06-10-2009, 11:55 PM
Officer Kenneth Baribault's life was torn to shreds by a drunk driver - and how do his police colleagues respond?

By holding a fund raiser at an establishment that serves drunk drivers. Holy Moses. Do these officers have any sense of propriety? Who do you think attended this fund raiser...teetotalers?

Why did the Nassau PBA hold a fund raiser at an establishment that serves alcohol? No doubt the PBA realizes that once it's members get some liquor in them they are prone to donate more then if they were not impaired or intoxicated. Another reason is because they realize many of their union members absolutely love ingesting this mind altering drug and will show up in great numbers to use it.

We all have at least one friend or relative who benefited from a cop who caught them driving drunk and took their keys, drove them home or called a cab instead of arresting them. After their brother officer was nearly killed by a drunk driver, I wonder if any of these police officers felt any remorse or shame for not arresting your impaired or intoxicated friend or relative?

We live in a society that many years ago declared a war on drugs. Yet we allow anyone with a valid ID to obtain this recreational drug at anytime of day.

Many, if not all cops can relate stories about how they observed alcohol destroy the lives of innocent people who were victimized by alcohol users. Yet, these horror stories have done little to dissuade officers from using this drug.

In fact, by holding a police fund raiser at an establishment that serves alcohol, the police sent a clear message that they too revel in it's mind altering properties. Tell me, notwithstanding the law, how is alcohol any different from cocaine, heroin or crack?

Officers are on duty 24/7. In case of emergency, police officers must remain fit for duty at all times, except when on sick leave.

For our own safety, isn't it time we demand our public officials take the necessary steps to contractually forbid police officers from using this drug, as they have with other dangerous drugs that have a profound effect on people's judgment and demeanor?

My heart goes out to Officer Kenneth Baribault. Watching him exit the courthouse in a wheel chair that has become his only means of mobility makes me want to cry. Yet, I can't help but think the police culture that he is a part of contributed to his condition.

http://www.nassaupba.org/public/PBA_in_the_news/in_the_news/baribault-fundraiser.shtml

Remembering Katie Flynn & Stan Rabinowitz...as well as Nassau Police Inspector Vincent Muscarnera, who after crashing a county police car while heavily intoxicated, was the 'guest of honor' at a lavish retirement party provided by his high ranking police colleagues.

They sell Food there too Douche Bag!

Assume=AZZ U ME
06-11-2009, 05:35 AM
Officer Kenneth Baribault's life was torn to shreds by a drunk driver - and how do his police colleagues respond?

By holding a fund raiser at an establishment that serves drunk drivers. Holy Moses. Do these officers have any sense of propriety? Who do you think attended this fund raiser...teetotalers?

Why did the Nassau PBA hold a fund raiser at an establishment that serves alcohol? No doubt the PBA realizes that once it's members get some liquor in them they are prone to donate more then if they were not impaired or intoxicated. Another reason is because they realize many of their union members absolutely love ingesting this mind altering drug and will show up in great numbers to use it.

We all have at least one friend or relative who benefited from a cop who caught them driving drunk and took their keys, drove them home or called a cab instead of arresting them. After their brother officer was nearly killed by a drunk driver, I wonder if any of these police officers felt any remorse or shame for not arresting your impaired or intoxicated friend or relative?

We live in a society that many years ago declared a war on drugs. Yet we allow anyone with a valid ID to obtain this recreational drug at anytime of day.

Many, if not all cops can relate stories about how they observed alcohol destroy the lives of innocent people who were victimized by alcohol users. Yet, these horror stories have done little to dissuade officers from using this drug.

In fact, by holding a police fund raiser at an establishment that serves alcohol, the police sent a clear message that they too revel in it's mind altering properties. Tell me, notwithstanding the law, how is alcohol any different from cocaine, heroin or crack?

Officers are on duty 24/7. In case of emergency, police officers must remain fit for duty at all times, except when on sick leave.

For our own safety, isn't it time we demand our public officials take the necessary steps to contractually forbid police officers from using this drug, as they have with other dangerous drugs that have a profound effect on people's judgment and demeanor?

My heart goes out to Officer Kenneth Baribault. Watching him exit the courthouse in a wheel chair that has become his only means of mobility makes me want to cry. Yet, I can't help but think the police culture that he is a part of contributed to his condition.

http://www.nassaupba.org/public/PBA_in_the_news/in_the_news/baribault-fundraiser.shtml

Remembering Katie Flynn & Stan Rabinowitz...as well as Nassau Police Inspector Vincent Muscarnera, who after crashing a county police car while heavily intoxicated, was the 'guest of honor' at a lavish retirement party provided by his high ranking police colleagues.

If you ever wathced the old "Odd Couple" show when Felix Unger says that when you ASSUME you make an AZZ out of U and ME then you already know what I am going to say. While I think you might have a point - IF - what you said about the drinking and driving following this event was factual. However, you have absolutely NO IDEA whether this occured or not and to print your ASSUMPTIONS and move forward as though they were facts is a huge mis step on your part. Aside from the fact that many people simply bought tickets never even intending to go - but just wanting to give a little to the cause. Aside from the fact that food served also draws a portion of those participating. Aside from the fact that you assumed incorrectly that every cop is a babling drunk who - given the opportunity for free booze is absolutely going to get bombed. Finally, you also assume that when these men and woman get bombed that they would immediately pour themselves into a car and drive. You are an absolute moron and you should be utterly ashamed of yourself for your wrongful assumptions. Not everyone still lives at home with Mommy, albeit in her basement apartment, goes to church 3x on Sunday and never has a sip of anything containing alcohol. Not everyone who attends these functions walks away boxed either. There is an acceptable medium wherein 70% of the people who attend will fall with regards to alcohol consumption and the hope is that the other 30% will ride home with others safely.

Stop assuming.

Unregistereddrunk
06-11-2009, 06:24 AM
He should have posted as a pretend guest who was at the function and observed the cops all leaving drunk.
give him time, he'll be a better troll soon

Unregistered LSAT
06-11-2009, 08:10 AM
While I think you might have a point - IF - what you said about the drinking and driving following this event was factual. However, you have absolutely NO IDEA whether this occured or not and to print your ASSUMPTIONS and move forward as though they were facts is a huge mis step on your part..


When a cop screws up we frequently hear him being defended by other cops who are quick to point out that cops are humans too, just like the rest of us humans.

Many humans like to drink and achieve a buzz, or more. And, as we all know, many of these humans are willing to risk driving after drinking varying amounts of alcohol.

Why should we believe cops who attended this soiree are any different from other humans?

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06-11-2009, 08:20 AM
When a cop screws up we frequently hear him being defended by other cops who are quick to point out that cops are humans too, just like the rest of us humans.

Many humans like to drink and achieve a buzz, or more. And, as we all know, many of these humans are willing to risk driving after drinking varying amounts of alcohol.

Why should we believe cops who attended this soiree are any different from other humans?
I dont recall many threads about cops screwing up. Those that do, rarely do I see the defense "hes only human", and many offer no defense for his actions. Just ask Pete, the father in law of Ray Montefusco, who feels scpd cops betrayed Ray after he was arrested for burglaries, because we turned our backs on him.
As far as why we wouldnt drive drunk, its pretty simple. If you drive drunk you get arrested. Unless you do something extraordinary, you do not get much attention.
If I drove drunk, and was arrested, it would be front page news. I would be fired.
Its the same as why we dont do drugs, or shoplift, beat our kids, steal cars, set fires, kill (innocent) people, embezzle, etc etc etc. We respect the laws, and for the most part except for a few cops who shouldnt have slipped through the cracks, do not break them.

Unregistered LSAT
06-11-2009, 09:11 AM
If I drove drunk, and was arrested, it would be front page news. I would be fired.


So you're a cop. Tell me, was Nassau Police Inspector Vincent Muscarnera, who subsequently admitted in court that he is a drunk driver, arrested by the police?

What did the Nassau PD do after the inspector was charged with a whole host of crimes by DA Rice's investigators?

Didn't the Nassau PD allow him to retire BEFORE pleading gulity to two minor misdeamenors...and then throw him a lavish retirement party.

You wrote, We respect the laws, and for the most part except for a few cops who shouldnt have slipped through the cracks, do not break them.

Why is that cops who you claim "respect the laws" would attend the retirement party of a cop who brought shame and dishonor to their beloved department? Could it be that many cops, including high ranking ones, pick and choose which laws are they want to respect?

Your arguments are becoming real weak in that they lack factual content and frankly, don't make much sense.

http://www.nassaucountyny.gov/agencies/DA/NewsReleases/2006/08-03-06.html

http://wcbstv.com/local/police.official.probation.2.605864.html

hereswhy
06-11-2009, 09:23 AM
When a cop screws up we frequently hear him being defended by other cops who are quick to point out that cops are humans too, just like the rest of us humans.

Many humans like to drink and achieve a buzz, or more. And, as we all know, many of these humans are willing to risk driving after drinking varying amounts of alcohol.

Why should we believe cops who attended this soiree are any different from other humans?

Dont agree. Some people like to drink. Some dont.
Of those who like to drink, some like to have a drink or two, some like to feel a buzz, some like to get drunk.
Of those who like to get drunk or buzzed, most know not to drink and drive, have a safe ride home, or call a taxi, or wait until they are sober. There are the dedicated alcoholics who are drunk and drive all the time.
The majority of ADULTS, who drink ARE responsible. Sadly in a county
with 1.5 million, if its .05 %, of the population that drive drunk, its a whopping 7500 drunk drivers.
I'd imagine the lines in the police world have a decent % of nondrinkers.
I would also believe the majority of the cop drinkers dont drive.
Why? Because cops in general respect the law. Because the days of cops getting a free ride home are over.
Because cops deal with drunks and drunk drivers all the time and see what asses normal people become, and how destructive booze can be.
Because cops have more to lose, if they are arrested then the noncop.
But lets say its the same .05% of the population of cops who drive drunk. A bit high, but just for arguments sake. If Nassau has 2500 cops, that would be 12.5 cops. Zero would be a better number.

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06-11-2009, 09:35 AM
So you're a cop. Tell me, was Nassau Police Inspector Vincent Muscarnera, who subsequently admitted in court that he is a drunk driver, arrested by the police?

What did the Nassau PD do after the inspector was charged with a whole host of crimes by DA Rice's investigators?

Didn't the Nassau PD allow him to retire BEFORE pleading gulity to two minor misdeamenors...and then throw him a lavish retirement party.

You wrote, We respect the laws, and for the most part except for a few cops who shouldnt have slipped through the cracks, do not break them.

Why is that cops who you claim "respect the laws" would attend the retirement party of a cop who brought shame and dishonor to their beloved department? Could it be that many cops, including high ranking ones, pick and choose which laws are they want to respect?

Your arguments are becoming real weak in that they lack factual content and frankly, don't make much sense.

http://www.nassaucountyny.gov/agencies/DA/NewsReleases/2006/08-03-06.html

http://wcbstv.com/local/police.official.probation.2.605864.html

Your post has nothing to do with the topic.
Of course a street cop would not arrest an inspector, for fear of reprisal, so the sgt did the smart thing and contacted the Da's office. Good for him.
Could the Nassau pd prevent him from retiring? No. Of course not. And if they did, would it matter? No. His pension is secure.
Cops respect the law, they also know attending the various retirement parties are a requirement to move up the ladder, etc.

Your post is a lot of drama about nothing. The average cop doesnt drink and drive. To stretch a inspector's dwi arrest into a statement of an entire dept, and who let him do what.. shows just how weak and how nonsensical it is.
While your post has some facts in it, the rest of your post is just conjecture.
Here is a fact that stands alone. How many cops that work in either Nassau, Suffolk or the various villages and towns are arrested for dwis a year(ZERO to ONE)?
How many nypd are( a few dozen a year)?

idontcare
06-11-2009, 09:36 AM
Since when are cops on duty 24/7 unless on sick leave?

Unregisteredummbb
06-11-2009, 09:41 AM
Having a fundraiser and serving spirits doesnt mean everyone gets drunk, or everyone who gets drunk drives.

Paul--
06-11-2009, 10:05 AM
Your post has nothing to do with the topic.
Of course a street cop would not arrest an inspector, for fear of reprisal, so the sgt did the smart thing and contacted the Da's office. Good for him.
Could the Nassau pd prevent him from retiring? No. Of course not. And if they did, would it matter? No. His pension is secure.
Cops respect the law, they also know attending the various retirement parties are a requirement to move up the ladder, etc.

Your post is a lot of drama about nothing. The average cop doesnt drink and drive. To stretch a inspector's dwi arrest into a statement of an entire dept, and who let him do what.. shows just how weak and how nonsensical it is.
While your post has some facts in it, the rest of your post is just conjecture.
Here is a fact that stands alone. How many cops that work in either Nassau, Suffolk or the various villages and towns are arrested for dwis a year(ZERO to ONE)?
How many nypd are( a few dozen a year)?

So you feel it is completely appropriate for cops to hold a fund raiser at a bar in order to raise $$$ for a officer seriously injured by a drunk driver?

I agree with the original poster. It wreaks of stupidity and arrogance. Adn if the stricken officer's family was not going to benefit from this fund raiser, I am sure they would agree.

so weak
06-11-2009, 10:13 AM
So you feel it is completely appropriate for cops to hold a fund raiser at a bar in order to raise $$$ for a officer seriously injured by a drunk driver?

I agree with the original poster. It wreaks of stupidity and arrogance. Adn if the stricken officer's family was not going to benefit from this fund raiser, I am sure they would agree.

Where else are you going to hold it?
It has to be a large place with food drink, and entertainment.
Alcohol is not the problem. The problem is the driver of the vehicle.
If you cannot control your drinking then you have to make sure you dont get behind the wheel.
Should no one have driven because the instrument of injury was a car?
I dopnt work in nassau, but would like to imagine that the people who attended had enough self control not to get slobbering drunk, and if they dont have the control, that they didnt drive, and the sober folks who saw them made sure of it....in other words everyone there acted responsibly and like a mature adult.

Unregistered/not so
06-11-2009, 10:18 AM
Your post has nothing to do with the topic.
Of course a street cop would not arrest an inspector, for fear of reprisal, so the sgt did the smart thing and contacted the Da's office. Good for him.
Could the Nassau pd prevent him from retiring? No. Of course not. And if they did, would it matter? No. His pension is secure.
Cops respect the law, they also know attending the various retirement parties are a requirement to move up the ladder, etc.

Your post is a lot of drama about nothing. The average cop doesnt drink and drive. To stretch a inspector's dwi arrest into a statement of an entire dept, and who let him do what.. shows just how weak and how nonsensical it is.
While your post has some facts in it, the rest of your post is just conjecture.
Here is a fact that stands alone. How many cops that work in either Nassau, Suffolk or the various villages and towns are arrested for dwis a year(ZERO to ONE)?
How many nypd are( a few dozen a year)?

Lets not forget the NCPD cop who was arrested for dwi and challenged the legality of the blood sample which took over one year for the courts to decide in favor of the DA. How many more were let go by their fellow po's that we don't know about.?

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06-11-2009, 10:26 AM
Lets not forget the NCPD cop who was arrested for dwi and challenged the legality of the blood sample which took over one year for the courts to decide in favor of the DA. How many more were let go by their fellow po's that we don't know about.?

Thats one. And if a cop was arrested, you would be able to quote name date and time.
What else do you have to do?

Mario Andretti
06-11-2009, 10:29 AM
Having a fundraiser for a seriously injured P.O. is for a good cause. Of course the fundraiser would have to be held at a very large establishment cabable of holding hundreds of well meaning folks. These same establisments also serve food and yes, oh my god, liquor. So what, that is what is called a restaurant or catering facility.

Having an extravagent retirement party for a disgraced police Inspector Vincent Muscarnara who drove his county issued police car in excess of 100mph on Jericho Turnpike and narrowly missed killing innocent civilians/witnesses and himself for that matter is an entirely different issue which reaks of bad judgement and hypocracy! Especially that it was hosted by his high ranking cronies in the PD and showed up the District Attorney who initiated the investigation. These same high ranking administrators were responsible for covering up many of his past misdeeds, including unlawfully groping a female subordinate and using a county phone to ring up thousands of dollars in personal calls to his "playmate". And the fact that this party was attended by most of the upper echelon of the department including the commissioner is an embarassment and a disgrace!!!

registered troll hunter
06-11-2009, 10:37 AM
would like to imagine that the people who attended had enough self control not to get slobbering drunk,

Slobbering drunks are not the only ones who break DWI laws after having a few, now are they?

in other words everyone there [Mulcahly's Bar] acted responsibly and like a mature adult.

You make a comment like this and have the temerity to accuse the other poster of making ASSumptions? LOL!!!!!!!!!!

People drinking liquor are acting mature and responsibly? Gee, if that's the case, what's the point of drinking at all? More LOL!!!!!!!

Unregistered666..
06-11-2009, 10:44 AM
Having a fundraiser for a seriously injured P.O. is for a good cause. Of course the fundraiser would have to be held at a very large establishment cabable of holding hundreds of well meaning folks. These same establisments also serve food and yes, oh my god, liquor. So what, that is what is called a restaurant or catering facility.

Having an extravagent retirement party for a disgraced police Inspector Vincent Muscarnara who drove his county issued police car in excess of 100mph on Jericho Turnpike and narrowly missed killing innocent civilians/witnesses and himself for that matter is an entirely different issue which reaks of bad judgement and hypocracy! Especially that it was hosted by his high ranking cronies in the PD and showed up the District Attorney who initiated the investigation. These same high ranking administrators were responsible for covering up many of his past misdeeds, including unlawfully groping a female subordinate and using a county phone to ring up thousands of dollars in personal calls to his "playmate". And the fact that this party was attended by most of the upper echelon of the department including the commissioner is an embarassment and a disgrace!!!

then take it up with them. You can be rest assured few if any rank and file cops attend those events.

umeanregisteredtroll
06-11-2009, 10:54 AM
Slobbering drunks are not the only ones who break DWI laws after having a few, now are they?



You make a comment like this and have the temerity to accuse the other poster of making ASSumptions? LOL!!!!!!!!!!

People drinking liquor are acting mature and responsibly? Gee, if that's the case, what's the point of drinking at all? More LOL!!!!!!!

Fine take out the word slobbering. No difference in my point.
Thats not an assumption. The police were not called to the bar, there were not 10 car piles ups resulting from people leaving the bar, no one was arrested leaving the bar.
You can in fact drink a beer and retain your maturity. You can in fact have a few drinks and be responsible enough not to drive.
I dont drink on a regular basis but I have a beer or two at a social function or party( I'm over 220 lbs, and still wouldnt drive within the time frame) I dont believe everyone's point of drinking is to acted immature or irresponsibly, perhaps that is yours.

u r lame
06-11-2009, 10:56 AM
Slobbering drunks are not the only ones who break DWI laws after having a few, now are they?




Then after having a few beers if you arent slobbering you probably are a alcoholic.

Propriety
06-11-2009, 11:09 AM
Having an extravagent retirement party for a disgraced police Inspector Vincent Muscarnara who drove his county issued police car in excess of 100mph on Jericho Turnpike and narrowly missed killing innocent civilians/witnesses and himself for that matter is an entirely different issue which reaks of bad judgement and hypocracy! Especially that it was hosted by his high ranking cronies in the PD and showed up the District Attorney who initiated the investigation. These same high ranking administrators were responsible for covering up many of his past misdeeds, including unlawfully groping a female subordinate and using a county phone to ring up thousands of dollars in personal calls to his "playmate". And the fact that this party was attended by most of the upper echelon of the department including the commissioner is an embarassment and a disgrace!!!

then take it up with them. You can be rest assured few if any rank and file cops attend those events.

You just hit the nail on the head with this astute observation.

If the Commanding Officers in the NCPD are going to run around like a bunch of arrogant azzclowns, what example are they setting for their police officers..or the community?

Now that I learned the NCPD Police Commissioner attended the retirement party for one of his Commanding Officers who admitted in court that he is a slovenly drunk who reckless endangering my family and friend's safety...well lets just say...I now view him as the Chief Azzclown.

Isn't Suozzi in charge of this police department? When is he going to take charge?

you are stretching it
06-11-2009, 11:17 AM
You just hit the nail on the head with this astute observation.

If the Commanding Officers in the NCPD are going to run around like a bunch of arrogant azzclowns, what example are they setting for their police officers..or the community?

Now that I learned the NCPD Police Commissioner attended the retirement party for one of his Commanding Officers who admitted in court that he is a slovenly drunk who reckless endangering my family and friend's safety...well lets just say...I now view him as the Chief Azzclown.

Isn't Suozzi in charge of this police department? When is he going to take charge?

None. They dont set examples for anyone. The cops in Nassau are adults, And if they are like us, they want nothing to do with their bosses, dont trust them or like them.
If you are an adult and look to the bosses of ncpd as role models and dont understand the underlying politics, then you need to take your head out of your butt.
And no, no Suozzi isnt in charge of the dept. Mulvey is.

Unregistered46546
06-11-2009, 11:33 AM
this thread is stupid. alcohol is legal. driving while under the influence is not. a fundraiser at an establishment is perfectly appropriate, unless we institute prohibition again.

Unregistered46546
06-11-2009, 11:35 AM
this thread is stupid. alcohol is legal. driving while under the influence is not. a fundraiser at an establishment is perfectly appropriate, unless we institute prohibition again.


...but then again, I shouldn't be surprised, most threads on this board are stupid.

doesnt happen...
06-11-2009, 12:55 PM
Thats one. And if a cop was arrested, you would be able to quote name date and time.
What else do you have to do?


If there was a serious alcohol problem with cops out here there would be dozens of dwis involving scpd/ncpd etc. Instead there are TWO stories.
And for those who say we would shitcan it, look at the nypd and the 10-15 a year that get arrested.
You would be reading all about the drunk off duty cop that caused an accident and the onduty cop buddy who shitcanned the dwi.

UnregisteredYour kiddding
06-12-2009, 09:48 AM
Officer Kenneth Baribault's life was torn to shreds by a drunk driver - and how do his police colleagues respond?

By holding a fund raiser at an establishment that serves drunk drivers. Holy Moses. Do these officers have any sense of propriety? Who do you think attended this fund raiser...teetotalers?

Why did the Nassau PBA hold a fund raiser at an establishment that serves alcohol? No doubt the PBA realizes that once it's members get some liquor in them they are prone to donate more then if they were not impaired or intoxicated. Another reason is because they realize many of their union members absolutely love ingesting this mind altering drug and will show up in great numbers to use it.

We all have at least one friend or relative who benefited from a cop who caught them driving drunk and took their keys, drove them home or called a cab instead of arresting them. After their brother officer was nearly killed by a drunk driver, I wonder if any of these police officers felt any remorse or shame for not arresting your impaired or intoxicated friend or relative?

We live in a society that many years ago declared a war on drugs. Yet we allow anyone with a valid ID to obtain this recreational drug at anytime of day.

Many, if not all cops can relate stories about how they observed alcohol destroy the lives of innocent people who were victimized by alcohol users. Yet, these horror stories have done little to dissuade officers from using this drug.

In fact, by holding a police fund raiser at an establishment that serves alcohol, the police sent a clear message that they too revel in it's mind altering properties. Tell me, notwithstanding the law, how is alcohol any different from cocaine, heroin or crack?

Officers are on duty 24/7. In case of emergency, police officers must remain fit for duty at all times, except when on sick leave.

For our own safety, isn't it time we demand our public officials take the necessary steps to contractually forbid police officers from using this drug, as they have with other dangerous drugs that have a profound effect on people's judgment and demeanor?

My heart goes out to Officer Kenneth Baribault. Watching him exit the courthouse in a wheel chair that has become his only means of mobility makes me want to cry. Yet, I can't help but think the police culture that he is a part of contributed to his condition.

http://www.nassaupba.org/public/PBA_in_the_news/in_the_news/baribault-fundraiser.shtml

Remembering Katie Flynn & Stan Rabinowitz...as well as Nassau Police Inspector Vincent Muscarnera, who after crashing a county police car while heavily intoxicated, was the 'guest of honor' at a lavish retirement party provided by his high ranking police colleagues.

Do You not relaize that half the drunks on the road are the cops!!!! They just get away with it! Come on get real. Cops are the biggest drunks out there.

Unregisteredrelaized??
06-12-2009, 10:03 AM
Do You not relaize that half the drunks on the road are the cops!!!! They just get away with it! Come on get real. Cops are the biggest drunks out there.

Why because you say so?
what experience do you have with drunk drivers? How many have you stopped? How many were cops?

its you are kidding
06-12-2009, 10:11 AM
Do You not relaize that half the drunks on the road are the cops!!!! They just get away with it! Come on get real. Cops are the biggest drunks out there.

There is no biggest drunks out there. Anyone who says that is talking out of their ass. Alcoholism goes straight across the board, rich poor, big little, all colors shapes ethnicity religion, all jobs.
What is being discussed is drunk driving. If a cop gets arrested, AND THEY DO, he loses his job. If you do, you pay a few bucks, and your life remains essentially unchanged.
I have over 100 friends or coworkers on my phone, I cleared 120k last year.
If I had a few two many, I'm either sitting it out in my car, or getting a ride, either by a buddy who is sober, or a taxi.
Hell, if i wanted to I probably could call someone I know working and get a ride home in a police car.....

no comprehende
06-12-2009, 10:11 AM
Do You not relaize that half the drunks on the road are the cops!!!! They just get away with it! Come on get real. Cops are the biggest drunks out there.

English skippy!!

Unregisteredufus
06-12-2009, 10:24 AM
There is no biggest drunks out there. Anyone who says that is talking out of their ass. Alcoholism goes straight across the board, rich poor, big little, all colors shapes ethnicity religion, all jobs.
What is being discussed is drunk driving. If a cop gets arrested, AND THEY DO, he loses his job. If you do, you pay a few bucks, and your life remains essentially unchanged.
I have over 100 friends or coworkers on my phone, I cleared 120k last year.
If I had a few two many, I'm either sitting it out in my car, or getting a ride, either by a buddy who is sober, or a taxi.
Hell, if i wanted to I probably could call someone I know working and get a ride home in a police car.....

People have a hard time separating being a drunk, or getting drunk, and driving drunk.
I dont drink on a regular basis. When i have a few, one or two I'm drunk, despite weighing 200 lbs. I dont drive if I have one drink.
If you attend a fund raiser and they serve drinks, you are not indebted to drive drunk. If you do, its your choice. Your crime, not the fundraisers. UNLESS you are underage.

Unregistered People
06-12-2009, 11:25 AM
People have a hard time separating being a drunk, or getting drunk, and driving drunk.
I dont drink on a regular basis. When i have a few, one or two I'm drunk, despite weighing 200 lbs. I dont drive if I have one drink.
If you attend a fund raiser and they serve drinks, you are not indebted to drive drunk. If you do, its your choice. Your crime, not the fundraisers. UNLESS you are underage.

PEOPLE, may have a hard time seperating being a drunk and driving drunk - Police Officers do not, not even the alcoholics mix that up. The public, YOU are likely to seperate the two but cops never do. We know the costs if we are caught and arrested - our jobs, we have also seen first what an innocent person looks like when a drunk has run them over - most of the public has not. Trust me when I say it leaves a lasting immpression. So long for now, I have to go get boxed at a fundraiser and then drive home - TWIT!

Unregisteredufus
06-12-2009, 12:59 PM
PEOPLE, may have a hard time seperating being a drunk and driving drunk - Police Officers do not, not even the alcoholics mix that up. The public, YOU are likely to seperate the two but cops never do. We know the costs if we are caught and arrested - our jobs, we have also seen first what an innocent person looks like when a drunk has run them over - most of the public has not. Trust me when I say it leaves a lasting immpression. So long for now, I have to go get boxed at a fundraiser and then drive home - TWIT!

I am a cop you nitwit