Cops use taser on 72-year old woman

[Unregisterrrrred]

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/local/060909_Public_Reacts_to_Grandmother_Tasing

Tasers were orginally introduced as an alternative to using lethal force. Unfortunately it is now being used for non-compliance to a verbal order.

This is total BS. The public should be outraged and challenge this in the courts.

[Taser on]

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/local/060909_Public_Reacts_to_Grandmother_Tasing

Tasers were orginally introduced as an alternative to using lethal force. Unfortunately it is now being used for non-compliance to a verbal order.

This is total BS. The public should be outraged and challenge this in the courts.

As an elder, she should lead by example and obeyed the cop. Too many cops are killed every year. Let alone with cars coming by at 60 miles per hour.

Take the ticket and STFU.

[get yourfactsstraight]

Tazers are not an alternative to dpf. They are an alternative to physical force.
The fact is, less people in america are seriously hurt by a tazer, then by a cops fist.
I've been tazed, 2-3 seconds of pain, then fatigue. Its over. As opposed to a broken jaw, nose, eye swollen shut, etc.
It is far more humane and far less brutal. The most dangerous part is the fall after you are tazed

[another expert]

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/local/060909_Public_Reacts_to_Grandmother_Tasing

Tasers were orginally introduced as an alternative to using lethal force. Unfortunately it is now being used for non-compliance to a verbal order.

This is total BS. The public should be outraged and challenge this in the courts.

This happened in what state? I dont open media from dubious sources.

[Unregisteredstfu]

[url]
Tasers were orginally introduced as an alternative to using lethal force. Unfortunately it is now being used for non-compliance to a verbal order.



Where do you gets your facts from? tasers are not an alternative to deadly physical force. If you have a knife, or a gun, and are threatening me, I'm shooting you.
Tasers are used as an alternative to mace, baton or fists, in other words simple physical force.

[Unregisteredtazer]

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/local/060909_Public_Reacts_to_Grandmother_Tasing

Tasers were orginally introduced as an alternative to using lethal force. Unfortunately it is now being used for non-compliance to a verbal order.

This is total BS. The public should be outraged and challenge this in the courts.

This is great! Can't wait to be trained and get one issued! People should comply and then we would have no problem. Society is too lawless!

[stupid assss]

Where do you gets your facts from? tasers are not an alternative to deadly physical force. If you have a knife, or a gun, and are threatening me, I'm shooting you.
Tasers are used as an alternative to mace, baton or fists, in other words simple physical force.

Tazers effective range 15 feet.
knife 20 feet
Handgun 30 yards.
Shotgun 100 yards
Rifle 100-1000 yards.
If you respond to lethal force with a tazer, you are going to die

[Age is irrelevant]

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/local/060909_Public_Reacts_to_Grandmother_Tasing

Tasers were orginally introduced as an alternative to using lethal force. Unfortunately it is now being used for non-compliance to a verbal order.

This is total BS. The public should be outraged and challenge this in the courts.

you really have nothing better to do with yourself at 1000 am on a Wed morning then google tazers in austin?
the video shows she is actively resisting arrest. She pulled away from the officer as he attempted to handcuff her. Thats not non-complaince to a verbal order sonny.
You'd better brush up on your law. Seems like you have nothing else to do with yourself.

[monday moron commish]

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/local/060909_Public_Reacts_to_Grandmother_Tasing

Tasers were orginally introduced as an alternative to using lethal force. Unfortunately it is now being used for non-compliance to a verbal order.

This is total BS. The public should be outraged and challenge this in the courts.

Had the officer tackled her, which is well within his powers as a cop, she would have been far worse off then the two prickholes from the needles.
Who does she think she is? 72 or not she is not above the law. If she thinks she was tickted unfairly she should have lodged a complaint at hq or fought it in court.
Instead she resisted arrest.

[dont agree]

Tasers were orginally introduced as an alternative to using lethal force. Unfortunately it is now being used for non-compliance to a verbal order.

.Noncompliance both verbal and physical to a verbal to put hands behind back because you are under arrest, and pulling away from the officer as he cuffs her?
sorry she is an adult ,and should know better. Being 72, being a grandma, or anything else is not an excuse to speed and to escalate a simple ticket into a arrestable situation. And then resist arrest.
Shame on her

[gmatazed]

LOL...She said

#1. I'm not signing the ticket, arrest me

#2. go ahead and tase me I dare you.

Dont mess with Texas. That is a Red state people.

And the brass are 100% behind the officer.

[whitetrash]

At what age are you exempt from the speed limit, or obeying lawful commands of a police officer.
Granny should be ashamed.

[grams=voltage]

LOL...She said

#1. I'm not signing the ticket, arrest me

#2. go ahead and tase me I dare you.

Dont mess with Texas. That is a Red state people.

And the brass are 100% behind the officer.

grams clearly was the antagonist. It could have ended at any time she chose. She chose to push it to that level.
She should be ashamed of herself.

[u r an azz]

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/local/060909_Public_Reacts_to_Grandmother_Tasing

Tasers were orginally introduced as an alternative to using lethal force. Unfortunately it is now being used for non-compliance to a verbal order.

This is total BS. The public should be outraged and challenge this in the courts.

Not true. Originally designed as an interrogation tool for clandestine services, then introduced to Law Enforcement for use on non-compliant or out of control persons, (usually drug users). In recent years the accepted practical use for the taser is at any time the Officer would normally have had to physically force an individual to comply with any order or directive an individual fails to comply with. The taser does no permanent damage, causes no physical injury or impairment, and ends a confrontation immediately thus allowing the Officer to complete his/her task and resume normal patrol. So the use of this device is not BS but a cost effective way to force anyone - including Granny into complying with a lawful order from a Police Officer.

Best advice - just do what the cop orders you to do or he will force you to do so with the assistance of his handy taser weapon.

[Unregisteredgoodjob]

From the look on the video, she was in his face from the beginning. Then he told her to step back from the road, then it looked like she was heading for the truck. What if granny had a shotgun in the car? it is TEXAS ya' know boy!.

Good job officer! and good job to the brass for supporting the officers actions.
If it were NY the cop would have been fired.

[Harry's Place]

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/local/060909_Public_Reacts_to_Grandmother_Tasing

Tasers were orginally introduced as an alternative to using lethal force. Unfortunately it is now being used for non-compliance to a verbal order.

This is total BS. The public should be outraged and challenge this in the courts.

If you're not entirely happy, perhaps you should relocate to another country. Go somewhere else. Maybe France. Lots of freaks there who would share your sentiment.

Complain to Levy.

[Unregisteredyuop]

From the look on the video, she was in his face from the beginning. Then he told her to step back from the road, then it looked like she was heading for the truck. What if granny had a shotgun in the car? it is TEXAS ya' know boy!.

Good job officer! and good job to the brass for supporting the officers actions.
If it were NY the cop would have been fired.

nope tazers are accepted on the force continum(?) same as mace, or baton, a step above personal weapons.
The force was acceptable. He tried to cuff her, she resisted and pulled away. Why continue with hands on, 2-3 seconds of electricity, she'll never resist again.

[Unregistereddeptoffchaos]

Nasty older lady who thinks she's above a summons.

[Unregistered65165]

"Don't Taze me Sonny"... lol

[Deputy Barney Fife]

The best way I find to use my tazer is when they are totally defenseless and laying in a puddle of water. Andy it's just great they hop around like a fish out of water.

[stupid moron]

The best way I find to use my tazer is when they are totally defenseless and laying in a puddle of water. Andy it's just great they hop around like a fish out of water.

you are a moron. being in a puddle has no effect on the taser opostive or negative. The voltage only passes between the 2 points the probes enter your body( dont get wet now) and its totally internal. Unless you dry stun, then its across the skin.

[D B FIFE]

DAH AT LEAST I DON'T CALL MYSELF STUPID MORON . HEY STUPID MORON DO YOU REALLY TAKE EVERYTHING IN THIS SERIOUS . YOU BEST GET A LIFE.
you are a moron. being in a puddle has no effect on the taser opostive or negative. The voltage only passes between the 2 points the probes enter your body( dont get wet now) and its totally internal. Unless you dry stun, then its across the skin.

[Unregisterrrrred]

Not true. Originally designed as an interrogation tool for clandestine services, then introduced to Law Enforcement for use on non-compliant or out of control persons, (usually drug users). In recent years the accepted practical use for the taser is at any time the Officer would normally have had to physically force an individual to comply with any order or directive an individual fails to comply with. The taser does no permanent damage, causes no physical injury or impairment, and ends a confrontation immediately thus allowing the Officer to complete his/her task and resume normal patrol. So the use of this device is not BS but a cost effective way to force anyone - including Granny into complying with a lawful order from a Police Officer.

Best advice - just do what the cop orders you to do or he will force you to do so with the assistance of his handy taser weapon.


Completely agree with your advice... but question your statement about tasers causing no physical injury or impairment.

Here are 3 different articles & cases that suggest otherwise:

http://uspolitics.about.com/b/2005/07/31/taser-gun-causes-death.htm

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/12/earlyshow/main648859.shtml

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=6413029

[Unregisterrrrred]

Noncompliance both verbal and physical to a verbal to put hands behind back because you are under arrest, and pulling away from the officer as he cuffs her?
sorry she is an adult ,and should know better. Being 72, being a grandma, or anything else is not an excuse to speed and to escalate a simple ticket into a arrestable situation. And then resist arrest.
Shame on her

Agree 100% she should have been arrested. But why not arrest her the traditional way?

[because.]

Agree 100% she should have been arrested. But why not arrest her the traditional way?

the old rag dared him to taser her

[Unregisterrrrred]

If you're not entirely happy, perhaps you should relocate to another country. Go somewhere else. Maybe France. Lots of freaks there who would share your sentiment.

Complain to Levy.

Incapable of an articulate response obviously.

Suprised a total tool like you is allowed to be a site admin! LOL.

[tazed+confused]

Agree 100% she should have been arrested. But why not arrest her the traditional way?

with a beat down? Grams was resisting. It would be worse to tackle her, throw her around, and force her arms behind her back. her bones are brittle, anything could have happened. I've been tased, it hurts and its over. all she has are little needle marks.
It really doesnt matter why. The officer was well within his job duties using the tazer

[tazed+confused]

Completely agree with your advice... but question your statement about tasers causing no physical injury or impairment.

Here are 3 different articles & cases that suggest otherwise:

http://uspolitics.about.com/b/2005/07/31/taser-gun-causes-death.htm

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/12/earlyshow/main648859.shtml

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=6413029

Yes it isnt wise to taser a man on a high spot that he might fall, and the other 2 involve drug use that contributed to their death. A person overdosed on drugs is going to die if he isnt controlled, restrained and transported to the hosiptal.


None of those circumstances were involved with grandmama

[for the geeksnwannabes]

For reasons unknown to anyone but the arrested subject, this person decided she wanted to escalate a simple traffic ticket into a trip to jail. Yes she is old, and female, but also resisting arrest, there was no way to arrest the woman that would appeal to members of society as acceptable.
The officer had to use physical force to overcome her resistance. its ugly but needed.
Members of society that have never been in that situation need to make sense of it. The easy way is to blame the officer. The truth is the little grandma was completely in control of this incident. It could have stopped as easy or as hard as she wanted.

[stupid moron]

DAH AT LEAST I DON'T CALL MYSELF STUPID MORON . HEY STUPID MORON DO YOU REALLY TAKE EVERYTHING IN THIS SERIOUS . YOU BEST GET A LIFE.

Thats ok dep, i understand you guys arent certified for tasers so I figured I could edumacate you real proper

[Unregistered698]

Thats ok dep, i understand you guys arent certified for tasers so I figured I could edumacate you real proper

Actually the woman tazed was always a trouble maker, I believe her daughter or niece was in IA trying to make trouble. I am glad the police in austin released the tape. What I don't like is the Oklahoma thing with the EMT, that dashboard cam tape never got released, and they charged the EMT for pulling his arm away, when he was attending to a patient. It was all over the Driver of the Ambulance who did not heed the right of way to the trooper, both Police and Medical services did not have their cherry's on.

[Unreg /istered]

Agree 100% she should have been arrested. But why not arrest her the traditional way?

And you see a vid of a large trooper manhandling a "grandma" and you dont get upset?
She comes out of it with bruises, blackeyes, broken hips or other bones, and you are fine with that?

[Unregistered546]

And you see a vid of a large trooper manhandling a "grandma" and you dont get upset?
She comes out of it with bruises, blackeyes, broken hips or other bones, and you are fine with that?

Good point, infowars.com broke that story, watch the movies free on google video, END GAME BLUEPRINT FOR GLOBAL ENSLAVEMENT, or THE OBAMA DECEPTION AWESOME COPY ON YOU TUBE. It states what the plan is to increase the police state through the FEDS.

[Unregisteredamen]

For reasons unknown to anyone but the arrested subject, this person decided she wanted to escalate a simple traffic ticket into a trip to jail. Yes she is old, and female, but also resisting arrest, there was no way to arrest the woman that would appeal to members of society as acceptable.
The officer had to use physical force to overcome her resistance. its ugly but needed.
Members of society that have never been in that situation need to make sense of it. The easy way is to blame the officer. The truth is the little grandma was completely in control of this incident. It could have stopped as easy or as hard as she wanted.

amen

[You are one]

Completely agree with your advice... but question your statement about tasers causing no physical injury or impairment.

Here are 3 different articles & cases that suggest otherwise:

http://uspolitics.about.com/b/2005/07/31/taser-gun-causes-death.htm

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/12/earlyshow/main648859.shtml

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=6413029


There is always one dufus who can locate 4or5 instances on the net wherein someone "claimed" to have been injured from a taser. Yet they completely disregard the extensive research which shows that less than 1 % of all people tased have any ill effect and that of that 1% that does suffer an ill effect 96% of those effects are caused by the fall sustained when they are tased and their melon bounces off a hard surface - oops. Too damn bad! Follow lawful orders of Police Officers and you will NEVER get tased, end of story. Fail to follow direction, comply with lawful orders, or act in a volitile manner and I would tase you in a heartbeat. If you have never been tased, (during training we are tased), then trust me when I say - You don't ever want to be tased. OUCH is a complete understatement.

[dont worry about it]

Agree 100% she should have been arrested. But why not arrest her the traditional way?

Take the test, become a cop, stop someone for speeding, have him or her refuse to comply, andthen arrest her however you want.
There is no explanation needed. The officer did his job, arrested the bad guy, HE didnt get hurt, and went home end of tour, unless the arrest incurred overtime.

[dont worry about it]

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/local/060909_Public_Reacts_to_Grandmother_Tasing

Tasers were orginally introduced as an alternative to using lethal force. Unfortunately it is now being used for non-compliance to a verbal order.

This is total BS. The public should be outraged and challenge this in the courts.

tasers are not an alternative to deadly force. they are an option in physical force needed to overcome resistance.
It was not noncompliance, the bad guy refused to comply, then refused to be arrested, then using physical force refused to be arrested, it was an escalating possibly violent confrontation. The cop doesnt have to wait until she hits him, take her out before she does.
You believe the public should be outraged, but it isnt. Is it?

[she didnt]

look a day over 71.

[dont worry about it]

Completely agree with your advice... but question your statement about tasers causing no physical injury or impairment.

Here are 3 different articles & cases that suggest otherwise:

http://uspolitics.about.com/b/2005/07/31/taser-gun-causes-death.htm

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/12/earlyshow/main648859.shtml

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=6413029

in all of those cases, the guy was going to get hurt or die anyway.
There is no safe way to get a nut off a roof, or overhang. Certainly the esu could have set up a pillow for the landing, but they didnt.
The other 2 deal with deaths while under the influence of drugs/ altered mental status. Without the tazer, the situation would have been a typical dogpile. The exertion of fighting would have lead to the same result.