Lindenhurst

[Lindy Voter]

I thought there was a post here already for Lindy. Any way, any information on who is running against the incumbents this year? Or is baseball running unopposed?

[Taxpaying Schmuck]

What difference does it make who gets elected? After reading the Lindy school newspaper I am convinced that the next school tax hike is going to be a doozy. All you have to do is read between the lines to see what Lindy homeowners are in for. I'm guessing the average household is in for a $500-$800 school tax increase!

To add insult to injury, the school superintendant is touting how the percentage of kids who pass standardized tests has skyrocketed in Lindenhurst, thereby implying what a great job the school district is doing, and how our homes are worth so much more due to such a wonderful school district. Hogwash! In Lindenhurst, like every other municipality on Long Island, passing percentages went up for one reason only, and it has nothing to do with improved quality of education. The real reason is that the standardized tests have been dumbed down so more kids can pass. What's the passing score now, 50? Give me a break. Do they think the taxpayers are as dumb as some of the kids who were socially promoted and now graduating HS with the equivalent of an elementary school education?

I'm not just picking on Lindenhurst here, this goes for all of the LI school districts who fudge numbers to make themselves look good. Can someone tell me how 60% of HS students in school X can't pass 12th grade english or math, yet that same school will report that 75% of its students go on to a 4 year college? How is that possible? Answer: It isn't. This is how school administrators manipulate data to avoid public scrutiny of their own district. It's shameful and dishonest at best. And, if school boards are not questioning this, then they too are being dishonest to the taxpayers they supposedly represent. But then again, if the schools were to report the truth, the school boards would catch all the heat, so it's not in their interest to tell the truth either. In the meantime, educational standards go down while our school taxes go up. The public is being duped.

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TAX PAC SHOULD COME BACK AND AT LEAST RUN A RACE


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[Lindy Votes]

well, I for one lived through the terror that TaxPAC brought to out school district. Their original ideas and thoughts were good ones, but when they just started slashing positions and left the district in a deficit for three consecutive years..... that was horrific.

However, maybe there needs to be an organization whose first priority is "education at an affordable cost" instead of what we presently have... "sports at any cost".

Hear about the referendum being presented to the community to the tune of $9.5 million that includes an item to spend $650,000.00 on astro-turf for the field at the Middle School??? The School Board is crafty, include the "turf" in a referendum that is supposedly going to correct a serious mold problem at Alleghany and asbestos tile removal. How many times are we going to remove these tiles and fix the mold problem???

Time for the community to "WAKE UP". We are still paying for the last referendum and will be for many years to come, nnd now the School Board wants to saddle us with another one????

[Taxpaying Schmuck]

I'm waiting for someone to refute what I wrote about the lies being told to taxpayers regarding the magically improved standardized test scores.
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[Private I]

They can not refute your claim. Because its true. Just like they have been planning to spend ten millions dollars in projects, just to get astro turf. If we wrap our pet project inside other projects then we get the whole ball of wax and them stupid jock straps will vote to spend ten million dollars, to get them 600,000 of it for astroturf.

[Taxpaying Schmuck]

Vote NO. Tell your spouse to Vote NO. Tell your neighbors to vote NO. Vote out the entire school board and lets start over. The whole Lindenhurst school district is out of control and the taxpayers are treated like mushrooms and led around like sheep. Then they have the nerve to send me the Lindy school newspaper and tell me the value of my house is going up because of this great school district. What a joke! The only reason the value is going up is because ALL REAL ESTATE ON L.I. HAS GONE UP. DUUUUUUHH! What an insult to the intelligence of every Lindenhurst taxpayer.

The school tax portion of my bill is outrageous and getting worse. All we ever hear is the school board and the school superintendant blaming it on lack of state aid. The truth is that the more they get, the more they spend. No one is looking out for the schmucks who pay the bill. Half the kids on my block get private mini-buses on the taxpayers dime, and no one cares. It would be cheaper to hire limos for what the district pays for this private door to door service. God forbid some of the parents of these children drive their kids to school.

The high taxes are not to be blamed on the school district entirely though. Lindenhurst Village shares a good portion of the blame by allowing so damn many illegal 2 and 3 family dwellings and an unimaginable number of illegal apartments. How many you have on your block? I've got houses on my block with 3 accessory apartments that the village ignores totally. If these houses were taxed properly, and the illegal apts. shut down, there would be a lot less kids in the schools, and therefore a lot less need for school services.
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[TAXPAC]

There is enough blame to go around, but the village board and the school board are one and the same in this town. Half the school board works on village zoing boards and the school board is always giving fields and favors to the guys in charge of village hall. No one in either place is really independent, like Joan Scariati was back in the day when we had a watchdog on the board.

[x]

Joan Scaratti did much more harm than good ever, she was a disaster on the Board of Education, and took more time fighting everyone and anyone about anything, her record is replete with qualified votes. She was the reason the minutes of Board meetings used to read like a telephone book, she spent more time pontificating than the Pope himself.

We need people who can look past special needs, and really spend quality time on improving the system. Not rubber stamps for the teachers' union, the village idiots, or whomever.

But I guess in Lindenhurst the school board is a prime example of you get what you pay for.

What is their salary again?



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[Concerned Resident]

I could not agree with you more about Joan Scaratti and the rest of the TaxPAc'ers that followed her. It took the people of Lindenhurst four long hard years to get rid of them. It wasn't until 1991 when Randy Saeger, Jim Damalotis and Tom McGuinnes were all voted out that this district was able to start to rebuild. When they lost their seats this district was about 3 million dollars in deficit spending, rolling over teachers salaries into the next year, spending the entire fund balance, eliminating key positions etc. etc. It took several years before the then sitting Board could stabilize things and get this district back on an even course, and did it without double digit increases, not like this years Board.

When the superintended suggested eliminating a few teams at the Middle School level to save money the "Sports Board" voted NO. But this same Board will threaten us with cutting full day kindergarten, eliminating courses and the high school etc. etc. No where was there any mention of cutting back on sports teams that are not needed.

This district needs to get their priorities straight, we are here to EDUCATE CHILDREN. We are not here to carry out personal agendas. I am waiting to hear that the "Sports Board" now wants to cover the field at the Middle School with a dome so that it can be used all year in any kind of weather. When does it stop? We need astro turf at the Middle School? The "Sports Board" is sneaky in including the costs of this turf in a health and safely referendum, knowing that it would NEVER pass on its own merits.

Wake up Lindenhurst residents... it is time to get people BACK on this Board of Education who take their jobs seriously and are not in it for personal gain.

And in answer to your question "x" .. How much does the Board of Eduction get paid? The answer is they get paid NOTHING...-0-....Zip. It is a strictly volunteer job.

[Scary Thought]

Unfortunately in this village it's the other way around...
Health and safety issues such as mold remediation and asbestos abatement probably wouldn't pass on their own but hook 'em up with $750,000.00 worth of Astro turf and the jocks will flock like lemmings to vote yes.

By the way, have any of you geniuses, who are busy plotting out ways to make our school board more cause effective, noticed that there is a feature called SPELL CHECK right next to the ADD REPLY button?

For God's sake learn to spell or USE IT!

[Concerned Resident]

Taxpaying Schmuck, I could not agree with you more about the illegal multi family residents.

When you call the Village and let them know that there are 10 people living in a single family, new construction residence that is supposed to be "owner occupied" and isn't. The Village's answer was, well they claim to all be related, nothing we can do about it.... and the owner says he lives there.... but mind you he doesn't get his mail there... so these people all live in the same house with 5 kids going to our schools and the homeowner get away with it. Wonder whose pocket got greased?

I have lived in this village over 50 years and have seen the constant decline. We have gone from a thriving community with a downtown district that was thriving, to vacant store fronts, exercise salons, a supermarket that helped get rid of such long standing business as Moby Drugs and Udels Card Store business that had been here for over 40 years. And let us not forget the bars.... somehow they seem to thrive in this community. That in itself tells me that there is something wrong.

I don't expect miracles to happen, but I do expect and demand that my Village officials do something to make this a safer and better place to live and that the Superintendent of School and the Board of Education do something to get the kids attending Lindenhurst School who do NOT live here. Make the parents pay tuition or get out. Like the Village Official who just had to remove his child cause he does not live here. I hope that the school district sent him a bill for the tuition which would be in excess of $10,000. I am sure that if the school district looked real hard, they could find several dozen students attending our school that should not be here.

Lindenhurst Board of Education and Superintendent of School, start doing your fiduciary duties the way you are supposed to.

[x]

Guess that everyone in this town like the sports board, cause no one is running against anyone this year. Every one of the rubber stamps are running unopposed, even after a double digit tax increase and a top secret referendum which will cost taxpayers twice what they think they are spending. In three years watch as your tax bill nearly doubles, remember you heard it hear first you mindless lemmings.
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[Educate Thyself]

Top secret referendums?

Tax pac looked at as a good thing?

Sports teams wouldn't be cut if the budget fails?

You people need to get away from the computer and attend a budget presentation and then maybe you'd be able to make an intelligent remark on the situation as it stands.

I'll bet not one of you attended a BOE budget workshop or you wouldn't be making such outlandish remarks ... or maybe you would. Some people just like to stir the pot.

Attend a budget presentation... see the numbers for yourself.

The budget and the referendum both have been explained in such detail, at so many meetings, that those of us who do educate ourselves on these matters could repeat sections of it from memory.

Make sure that when you step into that voting booth on May 18 you go armed with both the facts and the knowledge that for better or worse, the choice that you make will have a direct impact on the future of all of the children in our school district.

Educate yourself so that choice is a responsible one.
Call the administration office to find out the date, time and location of the next budget presentation.

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Well thyself you know so much whats the story? Arent you raising taxes by double digits, arent you spending 1.2 million on astroturf for the jockvote? Its all top secret you send out papers touting your false increases in test results yet not a word in the mail about your top secret 10 millions dollar referendum.
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[Taxpaying Schmuck]

You seem pretty educated and in the know, so here's a challenge. Tell us all here and now exactly what is the percentage increase Lindy taxpayers can expect this year (without lying)? I'm willing to bet we'll never hear from you again, because all you conniving school teacher/board/district supporters do is hide and distort the real truth from the taxpayers.

Anyone from Lindenhurst who is reading this, please listen: The next school tax increase you're about to get stuck with in Lindenhurst is going to be absolutely huge. Why do you think they're trying to stroke you with inflated test score results and property values? YOU'RE BEING DECEIVED!!!! VOTE NO, NO, NO!!!!!
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[Taxpaying Schmuck]

Well "educate thyself" I guess you're not going to respond, so here are the figures for all to see:

11.9% Tax Hike For Lindy Schools?




By:Larry Swasey April 14, 2004




The Lindenhurst Union Free School District is proposing a budget of nearly $106 million for the 2004-05 school year, an almost 10% raise over the current school district budget. The current budget is $96,117,137, while the proposed budget is $105,709,345, an increase of 9.98%, according to Victor Manuel, assistant superintendent for business for the Lindenhurst UFSD.

The district has a current enrollment of 7,633, while the proposed 2004-05 budget is based upon an expected enrollment of 7,713, Manuel said. The current tax rate of $122.26 per every $100 of assessed value is being raised to a rate of $136.82 per every $100 of assessed value in the 2004-05 proposed budget, according to Manuel, an increase of 11.9%.
Manuel said the district was first looking at nearly a 20% increase in the budget from this year to next but cuts were made in order to try to keep the growth below 10%, with the district using $2 million from its reserve revenues to help stop the larger budget increase. The district has close to $18 million in this account remaining, Manuel said.
Some of the major cost increases were, again, unfunded state mandates that had districts contributing more than usual for employee benefits and health insurance, he said. This trend began last year, the assistant superintendent said, due to the faltering economy that reduced New York State's contribution to these same accounts. The funding from New York State is dependent on market fluctuations.
The district also had a near 30% increase in its cost of transportation, Manuel said, as a voter referendum last fall decreased the mileage used as a guideline as to which students had to walk to school. According to the new guidelines, the bus picks up students from kindergarten through fifth grade if they live more than one-half mile from school, sixth- through eighth-graders if they live more than three-quarters of a mile away and seventh- through 12th-graders if they live more than a mile from their school.
The district also had to renegotiate its transportation contract with its current bus vendor, Manuel noted, as the contract the district was working under was "well below market value." The redone contract still falls below what other school districts pay for transportation, he said, although it had to be increased to be fair to the bus company.
The district also increased spending on its Academic Intervention Services, which help students learn to study better, Manuel said, to augment the program's staff. The program has proven more effective with the extra investment, he added, as shown by the large improvement the district's eighth-graders made in a recent national standardized test.
More money was spent on special education this past year, Manuel said, as more special education students were put into private placements by the district this school year. "Our private placements have gone up considerably," he stated.
According to Manuel, the district will now begin putting the proposed budget and its components before various community and civic groups.

?Suffolk Life Newspapers 2004

How much more can a taxpayer or a senior with a single family home afford to pay? Does anyone care?
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[Educate Thyself]

Yes, correct, those are the figures... and while most people that I have spoken too in regards to the budget (taxpaying parents with children in the district, like myself) are not thrilled with an increase, they have expressed that they will continue to support the budget because they are happy with the programs and services that the district provides.

A failed budget will not ultimately do our community a service. It will prove detrimental to the children in more ways than you can imagine. Most of the programs that currently serve to enrich the school experience for our youngsters and help to create more well-rounded individuals but are not mandated by the state such as art, music, band, orchestra, kindergarten, intramural and extra-curricular sports and many electives in the secondary schools will be cut or seriously limited. Intervention programs for kids on the cusp of failing will be cut. Staff will be reduced, class sizes will explode, test scores will drop, the list goes on.

The proposed budget keeps intact a system that has shown itself to be working. Yes, some items could be adjusted and were, or we would be facing a 20% increase.

Hats off to Victor for crunching the numbers as well as he did. Check the budgets for the rest of the Island and see if you like them any better, everyone is in the same position this year. If you find a district that you feel services the needs of your child for less expenditure on your part, by all means MOVE.

And do it before May 18.

Good Riddance!

[Taxpaying Schmuck]

I am planning on moving simply because I'm forced to by ridiculous school taxes, but not until my wife and I vote NO on this budget. You praise Victor???The only thing Victor has crunched is my standard of living in this Village. Are you telling me we need ASTROTURF on our fields??? What flaming a$$hole dreamed that one up?

You shills in the educational community all sing the same old tired song. "BUT IT'S FOR THE KIDS, THE POOR KIDS. GIVE THEM EVERYTHING. SPARE NO EXPENSE FOR THE POOR CHILDREN". That line of BS designed and repeated to make parents feel guilty for voting no on a budget doesn't cut it anymore. You can't possibly stand here and tell me or anyone else that the proposed budget is bare bones, because that's a lie. If the budget gets voted down we MAY see a leaner budget proposal, but sometimes these crafty bastards throw a higher budget out there as a punitive measure for those who dared to vote no. I've seen that before too.

The bottom line is that the school board does not have the guts to take on the parasitic teachers union or a few vocal parents who think they're entitled to a million dollar education, tutors, door to door bus service for their children and special programs up the ying-yang. It's time for the board to grow some gonads and think of the taxpayers for once.

And, to add insult to injury, the standardized testing results that get printed in Newsday clearly show that the teachers are not doing a very good job of teaching, yet the school newspaper tells us how wonderful our schools are. Lindenhurst students consistently rank in the lower percentile of all the results. Discipline in the Jr. and Sr. High schools is a joke, and incidents are swept under the rug by administrators so the taxpayers never hear what goes on with gangs,assaults, drugs, etc. What the hell are we paying for, anyway?

Vote NO ! Lindy Taxpayers are getting hosed!
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[Educate Thyself]

I concede that Artificial turf ($650,000.) is not a necessity and I am not thrilled with the idea (however, it is included in the referendum, not the budget, you can vote for one and not the other) . Having said that, I am very happy that the referendum will address several very important health issues in our district by remediating a serious mold condition at Alleghany Elementary School permanently and correctly, doing complete asbestos abatement, properly, district-wide, once and for all, replacing badly neglected, leaking roof sections at the Middle School, finishing the district-wide asphalt and curbing repairs, and window and door replacements that were started under the last referendum (and then the money ran out).

Compared to these items and their necessity, I agree astroturf seems frivolous. It's supporters on both the board and in the community say that it will save us money in the long run due to lower maintenance costs and will allow more outside organizations to use the field without destroying it. I guess that's important to some people and having seen the numbers, I agree that maintenance will be lower and it will alleviate use of some of the other fields, thereby lowering their maintenance as well, ultimately , theoretically paying for itself. Not sure about that, but the rest of the items the referendum addresses need to be done so I hope it passes.

And by the way, in case you didn't know, the district gets back 60% of the cost of the referendum as it is considered a capital Improvement Project. Total cost to the taxpayer equals $36 a year. That's a couple of cartons of cigarettes for those of you who smoke (or less than a couple depending on your brand), 4 or 5 six-packs of beer for those of you who indulge (depending again on brand) or one dinner for a family of 5 at Kentucky Fried Chicken.

I do agree that it's time for the Board of Ed to wake up and smell the coffee as far as the Teachers Union goes. Some of the largest chunks of the budget (and the ones that are state mandated to go up a huge percentage this year) include teacher's health benefits (1.5 million dollars) and the NYS retirement fund (331% increase). Some of these teachers shouldn't even be teaching anymore, but they are tenured, we are stuck.

I believe tenure should not not be a lifetime "Given". It should be reevaluated every few years just like we have to renew driver's licenses (with of course, more than an eye test to requalify). While we all know that a bad driver can maim and kill, a bad teacher can be just as dangerous to our children's education and future. Teachers tenure should be reevaluated every few years based upon their students achievements. How fast do you think the test scores would go up?

The current Teacher's Association of Lindenhurst has for years been led by a man whose one interest lies in his wallet. Union President Stanley Rosengarten needed to retire YEARS ago. He currently "teaches" one class a day at the High School to maintain his active teaching status. He is not in support of the budget this year because the district is not buying into a teachers retirement incentive to help "ease" him into his golden years. He cares not a whit that the budgeted money should be for the betterment of our children's education, he is only concerned with teacher's rights, teacher's benefits and teacher's paychecks. Yes, it is his job as union president to advocate for his constituents but he has lost sight of the big picture, a proper education for the children, and it needs to be brought back into sharp focus for him.

But my question is this... who will do it? Who will sit on the board and fight with the union? I hold two jobs to maintain the lifestyle that I have come to enjoy and to be able to live in the place that I love. To sit on the Board of Ed is an extemely time consuming, unpaid, unappreciated position. I myself do not have the time and am for the most part (other than teacher union issues) satisfied with the work of our Board of Ed.

If so many of you people out there are so upset and disgusted with the way the board negotiates and handles matters, why then did no one take up the gauntlet? Why did not one person file and fill a petition to run against the incumbents? Why? Because you'd rather run your mouths on this message board and incite others with half-truths and hypothesis. Why not try to help get the train back on the right track instead of continually trying to derail it completely. Schmuck, you seem like a fairly intelligent person, why didn't you run?

[Taxpaying Schmuck]

You provide a few more reasons to vote no!
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[Taxpaying Schmuck]

WOW!!! The Board of Ed and Central Administration cut 3 million from the budget proposal. Well...not quite. They cut 1 million and used up 2 million in reserve money to make it look like a 3 million cut. In another gut-wrenching decision, they decided not to cut the 650K for Astroturf because it is so important and necessary for the safety of our children (I didn't know grass was so hazardous). Then they use the taxpayers money to print doomsday scare tactics and dire warnings in the Lindy Spotlight newspaper about the disaster that will happen if the budget is defeated. What about the disaster of spiraling school taxes that is destroying peoples quality of life in Lindenhurst? Do these officials think the well never runs dry? Has anyone ever heard of fiscal responsibility or saying no once in a while?

BUT...here's the good news! The proposed increase in taxes for us Schmucks in Lindy has been trimmed to a mere 11.91%. For me, that translates to a $435. increase in school taxes alone next year. I guess I should be grateful these people are doing such a wonderful job. I didn't know they could save me so much money!

The consequences for a failed budget? a mandated increase of about 5%. I'm voting with an eye on my empty wallet and the BMW's and Jaguars lined up in the teacher's parking lot. This school district needs a taxpayer revolt and a clean sweep of the board of ed.

BTW....Has anyone come up with an estimate on repairs to the Astroturf that gets torn up, graffiti'd or burnt by vandals? How about patching and general upkeep? How about lawsuits from kids tripping over wrinkles and flaws in the turf? How long does it last, and how soon will the taxpayers be shelling out another 650K or more for replacement? This idea is another "gift" that keeps on giving (the shaft) to taxpayers. Whose relative is in the Astroturf business, anyway? What the hell are these people thinking??

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So in the last five years these clowns have double the taxes we pay for schools?? Has anyone noticed?? Now they want to add another significant increase to the bill before they paid off the last one, in a bogus proposition.

The schmuck is right VOTE NO & NO!
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[Taxpaying Schmuck]

Hope all you fellow Lindy taxpaying schmucks got a good look at the special budget issue of the school newspaper sent out this week. The average tax increase in Lindenhurst for school taxes alone will be around $500. per household. Hope you've all got room for that second or third apartment in your homes.

This school district, its board of ed, and it's teachers are totally out of control. It's time for us schmucks to talk to our neighbors and get out the vote to send a message loud and clear.


Vote NO

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[lindyguy]

I went to the meeting tonite at the Harding Av school.
These people cant answer 1 real question. I am voting NO!!! I have a son that goes to this district but I cant afford this. They were actually excited about the synthetic turf. We need that??? Then they said we will lose Kindergarten. Is that true?? Unreal

[lindyguy]

I just read the other posts on this subject. First off, please stop with the "just move" crap. I am NOT A RUBBER STAMP!! Read my last post as it pertains to going to meetings. I am disgusted with this budget and the deception surrounding it. I just might run next year if this continues. If this is approved my taxes top $9000!!!
I live near Rall school up north!!! Oh and by the way all, these numbers are predicated on the State lowering the district by only $500,000. If the state give the district less the 11.9% goes UP!!! One more thing I didn't appreciate the Superintendent bashing Pataki. I am not crazy about the Governor but this isn't supposed to be political. Besides if the Pataki gave them all the money they were asking for they would spend it and still raise our taxes for something like a dome stadium. These people live in a vacuum. I wonder where the State would get the money to give to the Schools?? By raising our Income taxes maybe??? Wake UP!!!!

[Taxpaying Schmuck]

SURE we need astroturf. Grass has become way too dangerous for our kids! That's what the school board said, so it HAS to be true, doesn't it? I mean, what's $650,000 when it comes to the safety of our kids? My answer? Get the ground crew out there and fix the grass if it's so damn unsafe. What were they doing while it was becoming so hazardous in the first place, watching the grass not grow? Gimme a break!

Don't worry about losing kindergarted classes, that's just another arm twisting scare tactic by the board of ed to get the parents out to vote in favor of their lopsided budget. Trust me when I say THEY WOULDN'T DARE do away with kindergarten, they know they'd be strung up in a flash and couldn't justify it if they tried.

The whole problem is that the board of ed refuses to negotiate with the all powerful teachers union, and rubber stamps every proposal they come up with. This budget is more about hiring more teachers than anything else. WELL GUESS WHAT? Us taxpayers can't afford it!

As a taxpayer, I'm going to do my part to staunch the flow of tax dollars into a school district that could care less about the people who have to work to pay the bills for their wish lists. It's time to cut expenses, not add more. Tell your neighbors, tell your friends in Lindenhurst how much this budget is going to cost Lindenhurst taxpayers...at least $500. a year in school taxes alone per household! THESE PEOPLE ARE NUTS! SEND A MESSAGE WITH YOUR VOTE! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! I'M MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!

My Family is Voting NO!


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[Sachem]

Yea, its out of control but try living in Sachem where every year its 15% more for schools whose standardize scores rank like the inner city (South Huntington you complain, you guys are like Great Neck compared to us), despite the realtors claim of the "highly ranked Sachem SD".

However, we do at least vote the budgets down the first time, they pass the second time. It is madness, sell now, property values are going strai down...

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Word is out about this bogus budget and from what I hear TAXPAC is back in full swing. VOTE NO !
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[Taxpaying Schmuck]

The editors of the school teachers propaganda publication, "Spotlight on Lindy", has been working overtime churning out school district hype, half truths and scare tactics aimed at parents of school age children in Lindenhurst. We're being bombarded with mailings about the horrors that will befall us if the budget is defeated. If you listen to their dire predictions, the school district will all but collapse if this budget isn't passed. Just like every other budget proposal in the past several decades, this is a do or die situation for the district. Vote No, and what do they threaten? "NO KINDERGARTEN", "NO SPORTS", "NO GIFTED AND TALENTED PROGRAM" "NO TRANSPORTATION" Etc., Etc. All this amounts to is a not so subtle form of blackmail and coercion.

This is their way of scaring parents of school children into voting for the budget. The board relies on the fact that many taxpayers don't go out and vote. This leaves the voting in the hands of people who have a vested interest in approving the budgets at any cost, many of whom are not even taxpayers in Lindenhurst, ie. high school kids who shouldn't be allowed to vote on school budgets in the first place. This is a tactic they have used since day one. The fact of the matter is that if people vote NO, the board will be forced to do its job and cut the fat out of the budget. But...they won't do this unless they're forced to by irate taxpayers. They just don't care that the average single family home owner in Lindenhurst CANNOT afford the school taxes anymore, or that the school district is forcing people to rent out illegal apartments in their houses (which causes higher enrollment). This district NEVER, EVER asks the teachers union to sacrifice. No givebacks, no serious contract negotiations. Just stick it to the taxpayer over and over again. What the hell, we're all rich, after all, we live in beautiful, posh Lindenhurst!

To Lindy taxpayers: CALL THEIR BLUFF.....VOTE NO
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[Taxpaying Schmuck]

Congratulations to the Lindenhurst Teachers Union and their cohorts on the School Board. You've succeeded in screwing us taxpayers once again. I hope that when you retire you'll feel the pain too. Oops, I forgot, you'll all be living on a big fat pension and won't have to worry.

Time for me to move away from these thieves in disguise. I've been a victim for way too long.
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[anotherschmuck]

Let's see what gets accomplished first--the mold problem at Alleghany or the "safe" new surface at the Middle School. Does anyone know that the mold problem at Alleghany could have been fixed a few years ago at the same time as Daniel and would have cost less than what it will currently cost, but the district chose not to do it at that time? There is so much unnecessary spending in this district that most people don't know the half of it!

[google]

see this website
www.endteacherabuse.info/...mb/view.pl
and ">www.endteacherabuse.org/
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[dummy]

we should get to vote on the cops salaries - i don't want to pay them either. Maybe our towns will turn into slums with uneducated people too.

[mold in the schools]

People don't speak out at meetings because of fear that their children would be scrutinized for it in some way. Most people, who are not naive, know when something stinks. It's obvious. You can see the difference in how easy the people on the boards can live. Even the individual school PTA boards benefit. They practically have run of the school. The teachers give them special favors. Some of these people get on the board just to be with their friends, their buddies, yes their cliques. Many of the women still have the instincts of Junior High Girls when it comes to letting others come and help or be a part of anything. They even put their 2 cents in when Village votes come, because alot of them just seem to know everyone and anyone they "know" will benefit them in any type of office.
Who gets hurt by this? All of our children. The people who sit back and just want good programs and good teaching, but never get to put a word in edgewise that isn't knocked down by a board member or brown noser. Yes, brown noser. They find that if they brown nose Presidents, VP's, board trustees, Principals, our teachers they get great benefits. In many cases just that their child can get away with being a bully or a trouble maker. In others that they just get to go to all the school functions, which by the way many parents never even know are happening, until their children mention them. Like Memorial Day events...
I would love to see parents invited to the schools to see more then art exhibits in Spring and meet the teachers in the Fall. What ever happened to school plays. No auditorium? So what. 1 grade at a time will be fine in the gyms, it's fine for every sale or whatever else they find they want to hold. Principals or teachers don't want to be bothered by these things, so the brown nosers don't push it.
We pay taxes and pay for everything but the school books.
Not all parents can be on the board or help out all the time. But most of us try to do as much as we can. Some help with sports, some with small events in the school if they can some with scouts, and so many other things. It's a shame that none of it matters enough, unless you are "friends" with the right people.
Of course this would be denied, who would admit it? In all honesty, I wouldn't. Not if my children were benefitting from it, not if I was a bigshot in the community.
Only our children lose. Theirs for not being punished when they should or kept back if they need to be. These sometimes grow up to be our community bullies, derelicts, drug dealers, theives and rapists. Just like in Bellmore where boys got away with sodomizing, just because they were on the football team, for years. Until somebody finally was brave enough to speak up and fight. And all of our children for not getting the things that they should be, because some, not all people the PTA and Board are in it for themselves, not the schools. Unfortunate circumstances. It's sad.

[concernedmom]

Why are after school programs and technology and computer only offered at Bower? We all pay the same school taxes?

Edward W. Bower Elementary School

GRADES K-5
Principal: Louis P. Parrinello
Number of Students: 400
Number of Staff/Faculty: 37
315 West Montauk Highway
Lindenhurst, NY 11757
p. 631.226.6409
f. 631.226.5240



2004-2005 School Supply Lists

School Overview
At Bower, we strive to create a warm, nurturing place for children to grow. Combining high academic expectations with an environment rich in the arts, our hope is to instill in each youngster a passion for learning, the courage to stand up for democratic ideals, and the tools to help transform aspirations into reality. Our school's goal is: To enrich and celebrate the unique talents of each student.

We offer a full day kindergarten program designed to help children enhance social growth while exploring literature, mathematics, and our community. In the primary grades, these types of opportunities continue, gaining depth with each year. In the upper grades, children explore a variety of literature , gain in-depth knowledge about many scientific topics, and math skills that are in-line with state standards and assessments. Our social studies curriculum centers on democracy, citizenship, and the history of the United States, New York State, and cultures around the world. Children in grades four and five also have an opportunity to become part of our student government, where they gain first-hand experience on democratic leadership.

At Bower, technology is integrated into classroom instruction via Windows based computers in both the classroom (grades 2 - 5) and a technology lab (grades K-5). In addition to high-speed Internet access, students use a wide range of software to research topics and publish their work.

We offer an inclusionary model of schooling, where students with a wide range of learning styles are instructed within the classroom setting. Both enrichment and extra support programs are available district-wide and within the building. Orion, a unique gifted and talented program, begins in grade 3 district-wide, while extra support services are available to students starting in kindergarten. Academic intervention in mathematics (AIM) is a before-school extra help program accessible to youngsters in grades 1-5. An after-school homework club is open to upper grade students as well.

Our extracurricular activities include an active Student Government, Safety Patrol, Chamber Chorus, Art Club, and Intramural Sports. We encourage our fourth and fifth graders to become involved in the arts, welcoming them into our orchestra and band. Instructed during the school day, chorus is open to all children who wish to share their voice with others.

[Concerned Resident]

Why is the board looking into spending over 50,000. to have a forensic audit of the books done since NY State only did one five years ago? Are they afraid that their internal auditor has not been doing her job correctly?? Seems they are having a special meeting on Wednesday October 6th at the Administration Building to look into this matter. Should be interesting.

[lindyguy]

Does anyone know what happened at that meeting??
I am trying to keep an eye on things here. I am also considering running for a position on the board.

[someone]

By reading and posting on an internet message board is far from "keeping an eye on things."

If your that concerned about the inner workings of a meeting perhaps you should have attended yourself,especially if you are thinking about running. Getting your info second,third hand on a message board is pretty lame.

[lindyguy]

I happen to work for a living. Also the meetings aren't exactly posted everywhere. You sound like an incumbant board member. Besides some of the best info is on here. I have been to some of the meetings and their made for cheerleaders like youself. Stop the whinning.

[ExBoard Member]

Most of the BOE members work for a living,with the exception of the retired Lindenhurst school teacher, and one person who does not work.

All meeting dates and places are posted in everyone one of the 11 buildings owned by the school district and the library. The dates and places are also in the South Bay Newspaper the week before the meeting.

As easy rule of thumb.... the first Monday of each month is the Business Meeting at the McKenna Administration Building at 8 p.m. The Community Forum Meetings are the third Wednesday of the month at 8 p.m, they are at a different school each month, in most cases. So if you are truly interested in running for the BOE, all business meetings are held in the McKenna Administration building.

Hope that helps you out a bit.

[lmstech]

Having served two terms on the Commack board, let me tell you that is not the answer to any of these issues. I am presently coming to trial on a defamation suit against the Superintendent of Commack, at a cost of $100,000 out of my pocket. The same control and deception that occurs with the public also happens inside a board room. No one member can do anything, and the censure and attacks to anyone who thinks or acts differently is non-stop. I lost all faith in the public in that they actually believe that their trusted "trustee" is actually speaking on their behalf. The reality is the public can change it by using the same set of tools and tactics districts use to advance their internal self serving agendas.
There needs to be a managed association that pools together the needed funds so that marketing, legal and media services are available to protect the independent view of any board member. With such a support model, the chance of board members actually presenting the real views of the community would grow.
Opening up the districts financials, and protecting the board member by giving him the legal support he might need will allow him to act independent and do his job. Not every trustee is going to act for the good of the community, but many would begin to put up the fight if they knew they would not have to hire their own lawyers to fight the internal fight as I had. Go to the Commack post to follow the case.

[imstench]

The only thing I an say is you sound like a wacko. I only wish I had pockets as big as yours.

[lmstech]

read today Newsday article on case.

[PEGGY]

I've been following this case in the local paper where I work and this guy is not a wacko. According to the local news it sounds like the ongoing problems in Commack seem to be self inflicted by the arrogant schoolboard. They have bragged about spending over $100,000 to go after this guy. And for what you ask? For using his first ammendment right to freedom of speech. For trying to defend his name against alleged false allegations,for having an opinion that is different from their own and for trying to involve the community in contributing their opinions. They just lost another battle when the Education Commish found this guy was right. The board didn't have the right to censor him. This isn't the first time this district has gotten press for being litigation happy. Who the hell is their attorney and what kind of legal advice is he/she giving them. Doesn't sound like he/she is protecting the taxpayers of that district. I wish we had someone like "wacko" in Lindy. He's doing his community a service that we could all use. Don't you get it? All school districts use our children as hostages to get what they want personally. Larger contracts for teachers and administrators and jobs for their families...look at Roslyn and all of the other districts on LI that are being investigated. Has anyone noticed that many school board members are teachers and administrators in other districts and they are voting each other piggy back contracts ? Why do you think they rubber stamp all Administrative requests? This is just the tip of the iceberg. I've spoken to family and friends all over the Island, some employees of school districts, and its going on everywhere. Good for this guy. Kudos for him for using his deep pockets to bring out the truth. What a novelty in this society we live in. Hey "imstench" maybe you don't have deep pockets because you have nothing to put in them!!!!

[dioris]

is no gangs in lindy ...

[Homer J Lindy]

Are you sure about that dioris?

[To Peggy]

Peggy

You seem to forget the basic assumption of our country as outlined by George "W" (that stands for Washington )

"Democracy works for those who participate in it"

Who else is likely to run for the Board of Ed except former teachers and "educrats." To rubber stamp a superintendents request is usually the likely outcome! Don't like it... too bad. Run for the board. Or
would you rather participate in a slanderous message board? That will work

[Lindy Mom]

Does anyone know exactly what is going on with the recent benching of the basketball coach? Rumor has it that the Board of Education is once again trying to fire him.

[check the facts]

the basketball coach was benched for a period of time, not fired. the reason profanity used with the players. should be a warning to all especially football, wrestling, and baseball, they are watching.

[bmer]

What's up with the HS principal? Seems like an ok guy...is he liked?
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[CMF]

What the hell is happening to the 1st amendment? Commack, Roslyn, Hempstead, East Islip... People should be allowed to speak their minds whether you are a teacher, a parent or a board member. Thats what board meetings are for. How else is the school community ever going to get any better? I read in the Long Island Press that East Islip's board of ed had security arrest a parent for disagreeing with the special ed label placed on his child. Then they tried to turn around and ban this parent from school grounds for up to a year. Be thankful you don't live there!

here's the link:
www.longislandpress.com/v.../index.asp

and the other story....

Long Island Press

[When The East Islip School District Treats] The Child As Criminal

Megan Russo’s long and exhaustive battle with illness and the East Islip School District began when she was in the fifth grade. At the tender age of 11, Megan felt like her body was shutting down. Muscle and joint pains crippled her.

“It took over her body,” says her father. “She couldn’t even walk. I had to carry her.”

The Russos began a medical marathon, seeing orthopedists, rheumatologists and psychologists – with numerous trips to the emergency room in between. And while they struggled with this health crisis, Megan fell behind in school. She was essentially out of class from January until May of her fifth grade year. At first, the district provided some tutoring. But it took that away from her after a few weeks, demanding an official diagnosis.

Her parents provided a stack of doctors’ letters and various test results to confirm their child’s illness, but Megan’s doctors didn’t yet have an actual diagnosis. As time went on, Megan started to worry about failing school. In the kind of desperation every parent can recognize, Mr. Russo drafted a two-page letter and took it, and his daughter to the doorstep of the then-superintendent’s home. Apologizing for the intrusion and declining an invitation to come in, Russo begged for a solution. The superintendent reinstated the tutoring immediately.

In late spring of that year, Megan was diagnosed with fibromyalgia, a syndrome that can cause significant muscle pain, sleep disturbances and fatigue. Fibromyalgia is not fully understood, because its symptoms overlap with other conditions, and there are no diagnostic laboratory tests for the syndrome. Schneider Children’s Hospital faxed the district the diagnosis, a synopsis of the illness and the plan for treating Megan.

Meanwhile her father consumed books on special education to get savvy on his daughter’s educational rights. He demanded that the school provide an Individualized Education Plan, which stipulates how disabled students will be educated on a par with their peers. The district responded by putting Megan in the resource room, in a small class (six students) for special needs children. But the work was way below Megan’s grade level and ability.

“She’s not learning disabled,” says her father.

Megan, now in high school, missed about 50 days a year for several years. Recently, school officials reported the Russo family to Child Protective Services, charging them with educational negligence. Then they charged Megan with truancy, saying, in essence, that she chooses to absent herself from school. Were the state’s probation division to find Megan a truant, she would become a “PIN,” or “person in need of supervision.” In essence, she’d have to start seeing a probation officer.

“It’s like child abuse,” her father says. “She’s never been in trouble in her life and now they are punishing her for being disabled.” The Russos are fighting the truancy charges and demanding that the state education department declare the district administrators, and especially Patricia Cuccia, director of special education, unfit.

“She’s taking families in crisis, not showing any compassion and making their lives hell,” Russo says. “Parents are afraid to go against Cuccia, because she has so much power in the school. She is the senior administrator of the school district, and she is running those administrators.” The current East Islip Superintendent, Dennis Maloney, is new; until last year he was the athletic director.

“He may be a nice guy, but he’s out of his league,” says Russo. Additionally, none of the current board members or district managers has any knowledge of special ed, so, parents say, those officials tend to accept Cuccia’s judgments without question.

Yet even a casual observer can see it is not only the school district that is aggravating Megan’s condition. There’s no doubt that her father’s crusade – and he admits it has become a crusade for all sick children – stresses the sickly teen.

The Russos and the school were unable to come to an agreement during an impartial hearing earlier this week. On October 19, Megan gets to be a defendant against her school in court.

“She freaks out with these court dates,” her father says. “She’s only a kid.”

And Megan? In an email to the Long Island Press, the 14-year-old writes: “I want to let my community know the ignorant decisions my school district leaders have made that will affect me for the rest of my life…They have charged me with truancy and made the last few years a nightmare…Is it a crime to be sick?” Apparently so.

- Maureen Ledden Rossi
with Lauren Wolfe

[Lindy Mom]

check the facts..........

How come the head football coach was never benched or wrestling coach? Seems to me they are picking and choosing as to who they bench.

Never said he was fired, said the BOE ic "looking" to fire him once again. And I do have my facts straight.

[bmer]

Are they looking to fire the HS principals, or is that just a rumor?
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[grapevine]

HS principal, staff likes him, students like him, parents like him, community likes him...but the BOE and Superintendent...not so sure - maybe if he walks on water, but even if he was the guy who managed that one - I am not sure some of the knuckleheads on the Board would like him either.

[Lindy Mom]

He is loved by the staff, students, parents and everyone he comes into contact with except...... the superintendent and the school board. But remember the superintendent is the one who originally recommended Mr. G for the job and the BOE hired him BUT..... the majority of the BOE that wanted him is not there any longer. Certain BOE members have had problems with their kids in the school and there don't like the principal, and others will do exactly what they are told to do as far as voting goes. It is safe to say that there are members of the BOE who have not even gotten to know him. These same people are not going to run again cause the job was "not what I expected it to be".

I would say that Mr. G can use all of the help that he can to get his tenure this school year. I for one will be fighting for him. Hang in there Mr. G!!

[curious]

Any murmurings as to who out there might be interested in ousting some of the dead wood on the board? I believe there are three members whose terms are up in 05.
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[Taxpaying Schmuck]

According to Superintendant Lederer, Lindenhurst residents should look forward to another whopping school tax increase next year. He's blaming it on NYS, unfunded mandates, NYC, pension contributions, health care insurance, etc. Everything but wasteful spending in the district and teachers salaries and benefits. The taxpayers are going broke in Lindenhurst, so what does the board do? They approve things like astro-turf and underground sprinklers. Please Mr. Lederer, don't piss on me and then tell me its raining.
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[What next]

Well now!!!
Now that the sporties have the astroturf going in it seems that all Graduations this year shall be held at Hofstra in NASSAU COUNTY.
Those on the board say at a comparable price to graduating in our own backyard, which cannot be done because of the start of the installation of the Astroturf.
Some insiders say NEVER AGAIN to be held in our own backyard because chairs cannot be placed on astroturf (which incidently is being installed on our how many millions? of dollars Middle School field with the bleachers that were so necessary to accomodate crowds at games and GRADUATION (this was supposed to appease the people who did not want the bleachers because they were not into sports but would eventually have a child graduating and would be assured of a seat on that momentous occasion so they would vote for THAT referendum) for both Middle School and High School.
Incidently it's this tax-payers understanding that players cannot wear CLEATS on astroturf either, necessitating the purchase, by parents, of football shoes (more money out of your pocket) or sport shoes that are not cleats to be able to play without tearing up the delicate (and oh so neccessary) turf.
Did I mention the sprinkler system that was put in at a great cost to the taxpayers of the district and repaired last year at an additional cost (in the area of $10,000. I believe) that will now be Obsolete? (turf needs no water it is FAKE) can this system be salvaged? Probably not...
Spare me all the "this is a health and safety issue", "it will prove to save us money in the long run" and all the rest of the sports-driven rhetoric. Here's a more cost effective plan:
Dig up the damn field in the spring, bury the current board under it, plant some grass seeds, even cheap ones and with all the combined bullshit of the past few years buried underneath we should have a nice plush playing surface in the fall!!!!
HIKE!!!

[Taxpaying Schmuck]

Why Daniel Street School needed an expensive underground sprinkler system installed? The lawn in front of the building has grown just fine for the 45 years or so the building has been there, so why now? How much did it cost taxpayers, and how much is it going to cost to water the weeds that grow there? Or are we getting Kentucky bluegrass sod next? Why does the board continue to allow wasteful and unnecessary spending to continue unabated???

The whole Lindenhurst board of education should hang their heads in shame for what they are doing to Lindenhurst taxpayers at a time when they know State resources are drying up. The school district portion of my property taxes went up $475 alone. Now the district is preparing us for another huge increase next year, which could be double THAT! Plus, the STAR exemption is likely to be allowed to expire soon, which will add yet another thousand or so to our school taxes. Will this madness ever stop?????
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[Disgusted in lindy]

lets see, new sprinkler systems astro turf, massive use of aides (payoff for pta) and this year my school taxes went up 13.9997 % rounded to 14% soon Lindenhurst will have the Board, Lederer and 1 PTA mommy as the only ones who can live here.r

[confused]

Not quite sure what aides have to do with PTA...That's number one,
Number two, Neil doesn't live in Lindenhurst.
Number three, do you suddenly get wealthy when you join PTA and can afford to live here cause that would be a big membership booster!
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[amused]

PTA gets payoffs now? Well!! that's a perk they didn't offer when I was involved!
Also, why can only "1 PTA mommy" afford to live here? Is there a Queen of PTA who gets the big payoff in cash?
You people are ridiculous and should learn to use the spell check feature, or, here's a thought... get a job! Then you could afford to live here.
Everyone struggles these days not just you alone, so stop whining and enjoy each day... Life is just too short to be a sourpuss. HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
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[Lindy Mom]

I could not agree with you more. I have been involved in PTA for over 20 years and the only reward I have gotten was knowing I did something good for kids.

And you are correct Neil does not live her, but his wife is a teacher here, so it should make negotiating very interesting. And yes, the superintendent does do a lot of the negotiating.

Things are really going to hell in a hand bag here. Tax increases that are killing us, but our Board gets astro turf, sprinkler systems, sod, heard rumor about lap tops for all 9 of them, graduation from Lindy is now a thing of the past, never to happen again.... its off to Hofstra our kids go. Thought that was why we got the large bleachers so graduation could be here??

[Taxpaying Schmuck]

Sorry, I'm not amused by the wasteful spending in the Lindenhurst School District. We didn't need astroturf and sprinkler systems at a time when taxpayers are being hit with double digit increases in school tax levies and the looming reality of less state aid.

As for your snide comment about getting a job so we can afford to live here, did you ever stop to think how many senior citizens in Lindenhurst are on fixed incomes and literally being forced out of their homes? Did you ever stop to think that when the STAR exemption for seniors expires (and it will) how many seniors are going to lose their homes? Did you ever stop to think that the illegal apartment situation in Lindenhurst is a direct result of people not being able to afford their school taxes anymore? Did you ever stop to think that those same illegal apartments result in increased school enrollment, and that this situation is like a snowball headed downhill?

It is faithful sheep like you that the district counts on as they squander our hard earned tax dollars at the behest of the all powerful teachers union and vocal minority in the PTA. Meanwhile, homeowners of limited means are forced to revise their lifestyles or leave altogether. Try engaging your brain before you put your mouth in gear. Merry Xmas.
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[Disgusted in lindy]

WOW, WE NOW ARE GOING TO HOFSTRA FOR GRADUATION,Whats wrong, Radio City Music Hall was not available. Whats this going to cost the parents and the taxpayers? Is there a severe mental problem on the board of education and the superintendent. Its about time for sanity to raise its head in lindenhurst. I couldn't stand taxpac but boy oh boy this board is breathing life into them. Does anybody care about the $ 46,000 payout for teachers to retire, the union president and vice president retired. sure the board will tell you money was saved , how many taxpayers get $46,000 and free medical to retire? The list goes on and on.

[Disgusted in lindy]

WOW, WE NOW ARE GOING TO HOFSTRA FOR GRADUATION,Whats wrong, Radio City Music Hall was not available. Whats this going to cost the parents and the taxpayers? Is there a severe mental problem on the board of education and the superintendent. Its about time for sanity to raise its head in lindenhurst. I couldn't stand taxpac but boy oh boy this board is breathing life into them. Does anybody care about the $ 46,000 payout for teachers to retire, the union president and vice president retired. sure the board will tell you money was saved , how many taxpayers get $46,000 and free medical to retire? The list goes on and on.

[amused]

I did not say that I agree with all the wasteful spending, had you actually bothered to read what I wrote you would see that. I also said "Everyone struggles these days not just you alone, so stop whining and enjoy each day... Life is just too short to be a sourpuss".
You, my not so dear schmuck are both a whiner and a sourpuss as well as a malcontent. You are all over these boards with nary a nice thing to say about any forum, board, dept. or topic you visit. How you know so much about EVERYTHING I just cannot fathom. I do not think that you are a senior (whose struggles I emphasize with, it's not so easy being a young family or a twilight couple these days) I think you are a lonely, bitter soul who will merely grab at any straw to argue and debate with someone whose outlook is not as bleak as yours.
You seem to revel in spreading misery and at times (not always) misinformation. Having said that I do not think that I will respond to your tauntings anymore as you obviously use this board as your own personal bullying board.
I do admit my jab at getting a job was not very nice, with the economy it doesn't matter how hard you work it's tough making ends meet.
My parting thought for the day is that hopefully in the spring, people will come forth to run for the positions on the board that will be up for grabs, wins and makes some positive changes from within.
Lets hope for the best.
Live life to the fullest, we never know what tomorrow brings! (but it better not be more turf or laptops for all the board members) Happy Christmas.

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[Taxpaying Schmuck]

Quote:You, my not so dear schmuck are both a whiner and a sourpuss as well as a malcontent.
Maybe, but with good reason. You seem to agree with my analysis of the state of the Lindenhurst school district, but you also seem more than content in not speaking out against the people who abuse the taxpayers in Lindenhurst. I assume you pay taxes in Lindenhurst, so I have to ask you, at what point do you become fed up enough to strike back, or are you just willing to cough up whatever they ask for?
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[WFD445]

Sourpuss or not; whiner or not; he's right. Where does it stop?? Why should we make a good living and still struggle? At 50, why do I need a part time job? or worse, have to contemplate leaving my lifetime home? Life is too short, so why have to struggle through it? 53% of my tax is school. Where does it stop?...
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[amused]

Where does it stop? It stops when people are fed up and either no longer pass a budget (you'd see how fast a lower number was put up at the second go round) or when someone has the guts to run for a position and make some positive changes.
Also, Schmuck is right about the illegal apts., although some efforts are supposedly being made by the district (I don't know what exactly they are, maybe someone out there does), to curb registering in our district without properly living in district either by renting an illegal apt. or living, say in the Venice (just an example) and using a friend or relative's address to register for a Lindy school. There are still many scamming the system and until they are weeded out we are expending our tax dollars to provide an education for their children, while they pay nothing in.
The board needs to tighten regulations to the max and maybe work with the town or village to crack down on illegal apartments.
We also need some new blood on that BOE, candidates with a good business head and no agenda but providing an excellent education for the children at a reasonable impact on the pocket. Anyone with that know-how out there?
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[Taxpaying Schmuck]

Quote:The board needs to tighten regulations to the max and maybe work with the town or village to crack down on illegal apartments.
What a great idea, but this district (and every other district) could care less who is living in an illegal apartment. They don't even care if the student is an illegal alien. In fact, I think they have some sort of rules that prohibit informing any government agency about these things. They probably would care if a student is living out of district, but thats about it. Look at it this way, why should they care if the district has a growing enrollment? All that does is create new teacher and administrative positions. This is all about THEM, isn't it?
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[Disgusted in lindy]

It's true, the high school graduation will move to hofstra. The new astro turf ($600,000+) that will be installed at the middle school (replacing a refurbished grass field with a new sprinkler system that will have to be abandoned or destroyed your tax dollars at work) cannot have chairs placed on the astro turf. So the sports crazy board will rip up a taxpayer paid field, move graduation miles away at a substantial cost to parents, taxpayers and the community for astro turf.....GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pint]

they would explain that it costs hundreds of thousands per year to properly maintain a grass field. a turf field will cost much less than grass in a very short period of time. fyi

[Homer J Lindy]

The smartest thing that the board and Supt. can do is to give a resounding vote of confidence backing Mr. G. Do you think he's gonna just sit around and wait to find out if he's tenured? Would you?

[schools]

its a new year

:idea:

[Gee Mr. G]

what's going on with Mr. G. Is he leaving or staying? What's the background on this - I've heard a little of this and a little of that but nothing concrete unfortunately.

He's staying. The issue was resolved during the 04-05 school year. Good thing for all of the current and future high school students in Lindy.

still doesn't answer my question. I'm glad it was resolved in 04-05 but what was the original issue

I believe that Mr. G had not received a vote of confidence from the supt. regarding his tenure. Mr. G had another school district prepared to hire him, when the school board decided to grant him tenure immediately. Good move on their part.

I believe that Mr. G had not received a vote of confidence from the supt. regarding his tenure. Mr. G had another school district prepared to hire him, when the school board decided to grant him tenure immediately. Good move on their part.

In spite of what most school boards think as to where their powers begin and end, only the Superintendent can recommend tenure. Only exception is a rule called estopple.

power to the people

teachers should be evaluated after one year. It shouldn't take 2 years to determine whether someone is a good teacher or not.

Teachers are evaluated yearly.