school district consolidation

[johnnyfairplay]

Well thoughts anyone?

[johnnyfairplay]

So no thoughts on potential savings?

[whocares]

you would have better luck trying to merge the families of Hoffa and Kennedy

[Board member]

You can make use of a central administration that would include the Sup, Budget People, Asst Sup of education and the district treasure for multiple districts at onetime. Preparing the budget, making purchases, setting up the educational programs all can be done centrally for multiple districts. Keep the sense of community but stop the out of control overhead

[Underdog]

You Superintendent/Asst Supt pool are a bunch of cronies who continually switch positions.The average term is about three years in each district and then they move on to another.Some prefer to become only interim supt's..aka...The Infamous Anthony Pecoralli who's been in nearly a dozen districts working for about $700 a day.This is done not only for Supt's but for any administrative position.One such position is Director of Athletics who many districts are paying an average of $600 per diem for their 'services'.Just so nuts.

[tax out]

Yes, lets get business people to run a business !
All the top our schools are know off of the insiders network...we think only happens in the GOP...one bus company! look at the special ed cost....BOCES & Scope....
WOOOO WEEEEEEEE....$$$$$$$$$

[Underdog]

Reading your post tells me you've already started your New Year's Eve celebration.

[had enough]

Place referrendums on the ballot in the following areas for consolidation. It only takes 100 signitures.

Consolidate Merrick, North Merrick

Consolidate Bellmore, North Bellmore

Disolve the Sewanika CHSD

Disolve the Bellmore-Merrick CHSD

[davi]

Not as much savings as you'd think. And only a few
opportunities to do this will be taken seriously.
I don't think this can work powerfully enough to make
a whale of a difference. I wish it weren't the case, but
I think it's the truth

[Red States]

It is inevitable.

School district mergers will happen over time. The cost of Administration continues to grow as a percentage of the overall School budget. Taxpayers will demand efficiencies in the delivery of quality education. Since no one wants to reduce resources that go directly into the classroom; the only place to gain productivity is by SD consolidation. The tiny districts will be the first to go followed by neighboring districts that have maintained warms relations over the years.

The same will happen with incorporated Villages. There are a number of tiny Villages that may one day be annexed into larger ones. As long as they don't dis incorporate, the people may benefit.

Never give up sovereignty to the Town of Hempstead.

[Bugito Scatty]

I'd use this page for my research on school consolidation, but I don't think I could get it approved. I am looking up information on school consolidation for my English project. We're in our debate unit and my topic is whether or not Park Falls (in northern Wisconsin) and Butternut (also in northern Wisconsin) should consolidate. I haven't found much stuff that will help me in my debate. (I'm on the side that's for it.)

[google]

see this website
www.endteacherabuse.info/...mb/view.pl
and ">www.endteacherabuse.org/
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[Patty Kakes]

Subject: Gangsters With College Degrees!!!
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I call L.I. Superintendents, 'The Screaming Meemies'. In order to cover their corruption tracks, they scream slogans like 'teacher shortage' and 'certified does not mean qualified'. These slogans are propaganda so that administrators can fire teachers and keep a high turnover, to prevent as many as possible from moving up the payscale! Administrators can also weed out those who they deem unfit as 'team players' in the corruption game$$$$$$
There is no teacher shortage. We are highly qualified and capable. It is just that most of us are not 'team players' and have to be weeded out with a fresh class of education graduates to fill the jobs every September. The cycle starts again. Organized crime. Our public schools are inundated with mob bosses and money laundering on such a grand scale, right up there with Al Capone and John Gotti.
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[axthetax]

I'm interested in connecting with you and other like-minded people who are concerned with top heavy administration, school consolidation and overall school tax reduction by diligent assessment of what can be eliminated without directly affecting the children. The voters are responsible for the mess we're in. Most don't vote and for those who have time (that is, those who aren't working more than one job to pay for all this) don't attend the meetings and get involved, acting as watchdogs over the ones who sit in power. All must demand better accountability of those who administer and oversee these outrageous budgets.

Waste of public funds is widespread throughout this wonderful country of ours as is evident in the news. Waste, mismanagement and/or embezzlement. The taxpayer works 6 months out of a year to pay for all taxes combined. I've had enough and hopefully others are just as fed up!

So, please contact me, Jennifer...Moms4Kidzz@aol.com

[feduptaxpayer]

The voters are responsible for the mess we're in


Sorry voters are not responsible for this mess. You can vote down all the budgets you want and your taxes will still go up! Why? School boards that are to cozy with administration and teachers unions giving out raises 3 to 4 times the rate of inflation and benefits that are second to none. Any school budgets main expense is employee salary and bennies. Vote no and it does not affect your budget one bit. Until school boards learn to say NO to the "moneygrubbers" this pilfering of our tax dollars will continue!!!
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[The Rock]

it's Saturday night pal...give it a rest.Go on out and kill a case of Pabst and drive real fast....moron

[feduptaxpayer]

You must be one of our wonderful "educators" Screw the taxpayers all you want jerkoff soon there wont be anyone left to fleece....
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[Yruohk]

I'm interested in connecting with you and other like-minded people who are concerned with top heavy administration, school consolidation and overall school tax reduction by diligent assessment of what can be eliminated without directly affecting the children. The voters are responsible for the mess we're in. Most don't vote and for those who have time (that is, those who aren't working more than one job to pay for all this) don't attend the meetings and get involved, acting as watchdogs over the ones who sit in power. All must demand better accountability of those who administer and oversee these outrageous budgets.

Waste of public funds is widespread throughout this wonderful country of ours as is evident in the news. Waste, mismanagement and/or embezzelements. The taxpayer works 6 months out of a year to pay for all taxes combined. I've had enough and hopefully others are just as fed up!

So, please contact me, Jennifer...Moms4Kidzz@aol.com

[Redux]

from top to bottom.

Political hacks beholden to the Superintendent and the school board are begging for a Newsday investigation.

What a racket - the super makes more money than Joel Klein in NYC by over $100,000. If that isn't criminal, I don't know what is.

[EmptyPockets]

What's wrong with Nassau County schools and Suffolk County schools? Get rid of all the layers of greed and waste!!! Taxpayers have had enough!!

[Empty Pockets Rule]

Yeah it's called the NYC School System. Wonderful place: No leadership, no accountablity, no choice, poor test results, poor pay, poor teacher, NO TEACHERS, and every parent wishes it were different. In fact, they wish they had more local control. Actually, they wish they were like Long Island.

Yeah great idea... let's turn long island into NYC. Sounds like you went to school in NYC.

[its time2005]

its time save $

[1800 CHAMPION]

SCHOOL DISTRICT CONSOLIDATION MAKES SENSE!

Smaller school districts who join forces can share resources, and that way those of us with larger school districts can get more state aid. I love it! When can we start?

not very funny 1-800 champion. With all the defeated budgets in schools on contingency - i dont think the allocation of state money is a laughing matter. Our kids who are the real victims are not a laughing matter. Grow up. Maybe the larger school districts should do a little better of job with the resources they have.

[1800 CHAMPION]

I'm actually 1/2 serious. Stop sitting around pointing fingers and get off your ass and do something.

Consolidation is a great idea, but it will never happen. The administrators and teachers will never give up their empires.

[guest 411]

Consolidation is a great idea, but it will never happen. The administrators and teachers will never give up their empires.

OK,

Bellmore-Merrick
Sewanaka (sp?)
Levittown
Sachem
Smithtown

All Central schooldistricts with more than 1 High School. Ask any administrator, it's a nightmare. And the word EMPIRE denotes control. HA! As long as parents complain, there is no empire. It's just another job, kind of like Sears Customer Service Dept. where the administration spends countless hours on complaints from everything from bullying to undercooked french fries.

Here's some numbers to help put education in perspective.

The average tutor gets $70 per hour (give or take). Let's say each student receives 100 hours of service per class per teacher. That's roughly $7000 per required class. Times 5 mandated subjects for a total of $35000 per year. Sounds like college. The average tax payer puts in 4-6K in SCHOOL TAXES per year. For that you also get music, sports, clubs and free access to the buildings if you belong to an outside group and the right to complain in public forums run by volunteers. Just about $30 per day (school days)for all that and more.

We now spend about $2000 per year on gas per SUV.
Food for a family of 4 costs $15k PER YEAR. Car Ins, LIPA, Car payment and credit cards ALL cost more than education. Long Island is a tough place to live, but it would be a lot easier if you would stop trying to be pennywise and pound foolish. :wink:

Well said 411.

Sewanhaka

[its time !]

:evil:

[Homeowners Geiko]

CONSOLIDATE NOW AND YOU CAN SAVE 15% MORE ON YOUR PROPERTY TAXES

[Gordon Gekko]

CONSOLIDATE NOW AND YOU CAN SAVE 15% MORE ON YOUR PROPERTY TAXES

Really and what type of calculator did you use? You would only save the salaries of one Supt., Asst Supt. and then you would have to raise the salaries of those taking care of the district by at least 50%. So what are you really saving? Every district must take bids on the supplies etc that they use and take the lowest bidder. You are living in a dream world if you think consolidation is going to save significant money. What is going to lower taxes and save you some money is when the State returns L.I.'s fair share of the tax money. We are losing at least 30-40% of the money to those upstate counties. You are aiming at the wrong target "Deadeye". :roll:

[Homeowners Geiko]

Gordon you must've not have put 2 and 2 together. (thats 4 by the way and I didn't have to use a calc). Homeowner Geiko being the name - I instituted Geiko's tag line and changed "car insurance" to "property taxes" I wasn't suggesting that homeowners can actually save 15%. I was mocking the very suggestion of consolidating school districts. Get a sense of humor will ya?

LOL

[yes lets]

DO IT NOW

this is not a good idea and will eventually adversely affect the quality of education in both potentially merging school districts.

Well I think its worth looking into. Wasn't the NYSSBA looking into this option in education in upstate new york

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[YES LETS!]

We should do it now!

consolidate our tax bills you mean?

can we do that like the monthly payment consolidation for people in debt!?

[taxpac 7]

:twisted:

Gordon you must've not have put 2 and 2 together. (thats 4 by the way and I didn't have to use a calc). Homeowner Geiko being the name - I instituted Geiko's tag line and changed "car insurance" to "property taxes" I wasn't suggesting that homeowners can actually save 15%. I was mocking the very suggestion of consolidating school districts. Get a sense of humor will ya?

Homeowners...don't quit your day job, because comedy miight not be the way to go in life.