1060 w/ number

[write them]

Hey levy are you kidding me?
I'm writing everything

[SCPD PATROL 3]

I agree, write up all reports! Properly document crimes!! This 60 stuff is meant to eventually allow the Dept to further reduce the size of patrol. Remember, if you 60 the call you are saying you were not needed. The citizen calls for what they consider a police response, go there, handle the call and write it up! Yes, some calls may seem insignificant, but that is our job (OUR JOB!!). Let's not further assist the CE, Sheriff , or Police commissioner (Undersheriff in PD clothes) with the destruction of this job. It takes a very small amount of time to write a report. Please do it. stay safe!

[paperless]

but the cost of ink today is so high, i can't afford to buy a pen!

[Unregisteredqqq]

but the cost of ink today is so high, i can't afford to buy a pen!

Why would you? go into the uniform sqd room and tak a box of the bics.

[remember...]

cant 60 a cc if you have a complainant

[dontcreatextrawork]

cant 60 a cc if you have a complainant

you better review the requirements for a 1060. also, 1060s are included in the total number of calls we handle. dont make the job any harder than it has to be for ourselves, 1060ing calls has nothing to do with anything. nassau and nypd have done it for years. dont make extra work for me that has nothing to do with anything. nonsense rumors

[its your job]

you better review the requirements for a 1060. also, 1060s are included in the total number of calls we handle. dont make the job any harder than it has to be for ourselves, 1060ing calls has nothing to do with anything. nassau and nypd have done it for years. dont make extra work for me that has nothing to do with anything. nonsense rumors

10-60s count as a "stat" for the officer, but when you foil calls by officer the numbers arent counted. So if over the course of a year you 60 150 calls of 1000, you only show 850 calls. So they arent included in the total calls handled by scpd. Look yourself. Check last year from the time 73s became a 10-60.
Dont make any extra work? Guy you are writing a field report.

[Unregistereponderer]

If the union that represents you is asking you to write a field, are you really going to go against it? I would never tell you to follow blindly, but there is a reason for this.
I wonder when we receive our contract, whether big or small, are you going to refuse the pay increase?

[SCPD PATROL 3]

To "Don't create extra work": Have Nassau and NYPD lost work/jobs to other agencies? Do they have a systematic dismantling within their departments going on and aided from those inside? After all who put out the e-mail to everyone regarding the procedure? Why? Why are all the fields being entered at HQ? They are swamped with fields (representing 911 calls!)

If the department shows a "drop" in calls for service, why then should they maintain the # of cars that they currently do? If anyone believes that the department cares about public/officer safety over money I have oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you.

[up a wee bit late]

you better review the requirements for a 1060. also, 1060s are included in the total number of calls we handle. dont make the job any harder than it has to be for ourselves, 1060ing calls has nothing to do with anything. nassau and nypd have done it for years. dont make extra work for me that has nothing to do with anything. nonsense rumors

thanks for the input you drunken irish moron, dont you have a PD to run in the am?

[HCL]

thanks for the input you drunken irish moron, dont you have a PD to run in the am?

You think he actually "runs" it? He may "ruin" it though.

[itsnotextra work]

you better review the requirements for a 1060. also, 1060s are included in the total number of calls we handle. dont make the job any harder than it has to be for ourselves, 1060ing calls has nothing to do with anything. nassau and nypd have done it for years. dont make extra work for me that has nothing to do with anything. nonsense rumors

you have a complaintant that requests documentation. You cannot 60 it.
From here on out, all my comp request documentation.
Dont make extra work for you? Resign. you probably cannot handle a sector anyway. Give the poor cops around you a break slacka

[its our job zwirn]

you better review the requirements for a 1060. also, 1060s are included in the total number of calls we handle. dont make the job any harder than it has to be for ourselves, 1060ing calls has nothing to do with anything. nassau and nypd have done it for years. dont make extra work for me that has nothing to do with anything. nonsense rumors

writing a field is making your job harder? cmon ben you got to do better then that.

[we?]

you better review the requirements for a 1060. also, 1060s are included in the total number of calls we handle. dont make the job any harder than it has to be for ourselves, 1060ing calls has nothing to do with anything. nassau and nypd have done it for years. dont make extra work for me that has nothing to do with anything. nonsense rumors

whats this "we" shit paleface? What's the matter? too many missing field requests from the desk? Do the rest of us a favor and write the field for whatever you can and shut your pie hole.

[Harry's Place]

Why write up nonsense that nobody is even going to read; to feel better about yourself? It's a waste of time and requires more work for the desk satff to enter.

Use that extra time for creative thinking or looking pretty.

[here is whyyy]

Why write up nonsense that nobody is even going to read; to feel better about yourself? It's a waste of time and requires more work for the desk satff to enter.

Use that extra time for creative thinking or looking pretty.

because the calls that are 10-60ed arent counted as calls we respond to at the end of the year. Although they are counted on the officers individual "stats".
Because the county exec can use those non-calls to show proof of lower the overall activity of scpd, and when the leg requests more police officers, the ce can claim that we are handling less calls.
Likewise in arbitration. Do you want to back the pba? go talk to your delegate.

[Hairy's Bush]

Why write up nonsense that nobody is even going to read; to feel better about yourself? It's a waste of time and requires more work for the desk satff to enter.

Use that extra time for creative thinking or looking pretty.

If you don't want to work the desk, get out on the road. stuck on the desk because you are junior? do your time. stuck on the desk light duty? thats a tough break. If you want to work the desk, then stop bitching and enter the fields. All your time spent "creative thinking" and you can't see the big picture.
God forbid the deps take over, your tits will look even smaller under that big hat.

[it cant be...]

I dont know how long it takes most of you to write a field but i'm guessing 2-3 minutes.
Some of you may not like the unions regime, but even those of you who dont must admit they are not out to finish us.
Those who are telling us not to write fields are looking to cut anything and everything they can from us.
It is a hostile govt and heaven forbid the perb case goes their way, you'll be begging to be writing the fields along with every special unit that was deleted.
Enough with thinking about yourselves, taking the easy way out.. that is exactly what levy/dormer/deps want. Take the extra 15-20 minutes that you are getting paid and write the 4-5 extra fields that the rest of us team players are writing

[steadymids]

I dont know how long it takes most of you to write a field but i'm guessing 2-3 minutes.
Some of you may not like the unions regime, but even those of you who dont must admit they are not out to finish us.
Those who are telling us not to write fields are looking to cut anything and everything they can from us.
It is a hostile govt and heaven forbid the perb case goes their way, you'll be begging to be writing the fields along with every special unit that was deleted.
Enough with thinking about yourselves, taking the easy way out.. that is exactly what levy/dormer/deps want. Take the extra 15-20 minutes that you are getting paid and write the 4-5 extra fields that the rest of us team players are writing

AMEN Brother!!!

[dont listen]

I dont know how long it takes most of you to write a field but i'm guessing 2-3 minutes.
Some of you may not like the unions regime, but even those of you who dont must admit they are not out to finish us.
Those who are telling us not to write fields are looking to cut anything and everything they can from us.
It is a hostile govt and heaven forbid the perb case goes their way, you'll be begging to be writing the fields along with every special unit that was deleted.
Enough with thinking about yourselves, taking the easy way out.. that is exactly what levy/dormer/deps want. Take the extra 15-20 minutes that you are getting paid and write the 4-5 extra fields that the rest of us team players are writing

The union board is 100% out for whats best for them 1st, and for the rest of us secondary. But I would listen to them over anyone from hq in a heart beat.
It is easy to 60 everything, and tempting, especially when you are 3 calls in the hole. Thats what they are hoping for.
But it is only marginally harder to bang out a quick field, and its worth it.

[We?]

The union board is 100% out for whats best for them 1st, and for the rest of us secondary. But I would listen to them over anyone from hq in a heart beat.
It is easy to 60 everything, and tempting, especially when you are 3 calls in the hole. Thats what they are hoping for.
But it is only marginally harder to bang out a quick field, and its worth it.

Writing the Field report isn't a union issue, it's a JOB SURVIVAL issue. We may disagree on the union and it's priority, but this is something everyone should be getting behind.
common ground? who'd a thunk.

[One Voice]

Writing the Field report isn't a union issue, it's a JOB SURVIVAL issue. We may disagree on the union and it's priority, but this is something everyone should be getting behind.
common ground? who'd a thunk.

The problem is when it becomes increasingly more difficult to figure out what is best for us and what is best for the union. I have no problem protecting my job by completing a 2 minute report, but I do have a problem with blindly following our PBA when we have caught them at least 60% of the time trying to better themselves over and above the betterment of our members. That is quite troubling to me.

[gVJLGCJLJLCJLHCJHCJLHC]

I will 10-60 every possable call because I've already been skrewed by both the County and the Union. I will retire at the very first chance. Move away and spend my retirement money in another State on cheep booze. To hell with all of you!

[yourliver]

I will 10-60 every possable call because I've already been skrewed by both the County and the Union. I will retire at the very first chance. Move away and spend my retirement money in another State on cheep booze. To hell with all of you!

make sure you keep upon the medical benefits for your liver transplant you dumb shit.

[we?]

The problem is when it becomes increasingly more difficult to figure out what is best for us and what is best for the union. I have no problem protecting my job by completing a 2 minute report, but I do have a problem with blindly following our PBA when we have caught them at least 60% of the time trying to better themselves over and above the betterment of our members. That is quite troubling to me.

60% of what time... what the hell are you talking about? If you want to bash Frayler and the board start another thread and see how that goes for you. I'm sure you think you could do a better job running the union so next time around throw your name in the ring and see if your co-workers will support you. Or are they all to blind to see whats going on too?
Better yet, come to a meeting and state your case there instead of hiding behind the keyboard on an anonymous site.
Until then, keep writing those fields brother.

[Unregistered23232231]

60% of what time... what the hell are you talking about? If you want to bash Frayler and the board start another thread and see how that goes for you. I'm sure you think you could do a better job running the union so next time around throw your name in the ring and see if your co-workers will support you. Or are they all to blind to see whats going on too?
Better yet, come to a meeting and state your case there instead of hiding behind the keyboard on an anonymous site.
Until then, keep writing those fields brother.

you guys are paranoid lol

[Unregisteredaqw]

The problem is when it becomes increasingly more difficult to figure out what is best for us and what is best for the union. I have no problem protecting my job by completing a 2 minute report, but I do have a problem with blindly following our PBA when we have caught them at least 60% of the time trying to better themselves over and above the betterment of our members. That is quite troubling to me.

Asnwer me this, how is writing a field going to help Frayler?
Its not putting any money in his pocket. If you 60 a call, and the county voids it, and during the course of a year, you 60 a few hundred calls, as does all of patrol, Now we have answered a 100k less calls. Now levy can show the leg how call volume has dropped. No need for new cops.

[Unregisteredwahwa]

I will 10-60 every possable call because I've already been skrewed by both the County and the Union. I will retire at the very first chance. Move away and spend my retirement money in another State on cheep booze. To hell with all of you!

And when our pension funds run dry you'll be the 1st one whining and crying.

[786987899878]

Asnwer me this, how is writing a field going to help Frayler?
Its not putting any money in his pocket. If you 60 a call, and the county voids it, and during the course of a year, you 60 a few hundred calls, as does all of patrol, Now we have answered a 100k less calls. Now levy can show the leg how call volume has dropped. No need for new cops.

why would you think 10-60'd calls are voided. give me a break. i dont buy this nonsense for one second

[simple stoopit]

why would you think 10-60'd calls are voided. give me a break. i dont buy this nonsense for one second

Because At the end of the year, when the cad ccs are at 880k, then county is claiming we handled less then 880k calls.

[payattention]

why would you think 10-60'd calls are voided. give me a break. i dont buy this nonsense for one second

Dormer has repeatedly cited that 10-60's and alarms don't count because he says they don't require "police action". But that does't mean you don't have to go to the call and investigate its validity. If the dept had its way, they would only count actual crimes and misdemeanors and shitcan all the aided cases, barking dogs, loud parties, youths in the park, etc. etc. every time you don't write a field you are helping levy "do more with less".
Take your head out of your ass and get on board.

[Unregisteredwerf]

Dormer has repeatedly cited that 10-60's and alarms don't count because he says they don't require "police action". But that does't mean you don't have to go to the call and investigate its validity. If the dept had its way, they would only count actual crimes and misdemeanors and shitcan all the aided cases, barking dogs, loud parties, youths in the park, etc. etc. every time you don't write a field you are helping levy "do more with less".
Take your head out of your ass and get on board.

you are also taking the jobs away from the ame who does the blotter entry.

[im1060ingeverything]

Because At the end of the year, when the cad ccs are at 880k, then county is claiming we handled less then 880k calls.

nonsense, 10-60s are included too. i ran the report at the precinct desk. more nonsense being spread on this stupid blog.

this is finally a chence to get out from all the bs paper work we are burried under

[454578900]

Dormer has repeatedly cited that 10-60's and alarms don't count because he says they don't require "police action". But that does't mean you don't have to go to the call and investigate its validity. If the dept had its way, they would only count actual crimes and misdemeanors and shitcan all the aided cases, barking dogs, loud parties, youths in the park, etc. etc. every time you don't write a field you are helping levy "do more with less".
Take your head out of your ass and get on board.

nonsense. 10-60 means a report was not required. it doesnt mean that no action was taken anymore.

[payattention]

nonsense. 10-60 means a report was not required. it doesnt mean that no action was taken anymore.

Tell that to Dormer and Levy. I guarentee thats NOT what they are telling the Legislature.

[payattention]

nonsense, 10-60s are included too. i ran the report at the precinct desk. more nonsense being spread on this stupid blog.

this is finally a chence to get out from all the bs paper work we are burried under

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry's Place
Why write up nonsense that nobody is even going to read; to feel better about yourself? It's a waste of time and requires more work for the desk satff to enter.

Use that extra time for creative thinking or looking pretty.



If you don't want to work the desk, get out on the road. stuck on the desk because you are junior? do your time. stuck on the desk light duty? thats a tough break. If you want to work the desk, then stop bitching and enter the fields. All your time spent "creative thinking" and you can't see the big picture.

Do the desk crews have their own union? a separate contract with job security? I'm not saying the desk isn't busy. I've worked it, I know... but spare me the "buried under paperwork" bullshit. If you cant handle it, get out on the road, or retire. Those of us who still have a few years to go till retirement and/or are worried about the future of the job for those behind us would appreciate it if you would stop bitching and do the job.

[theperformer]

nonsense. 10-60 means a report was not required. it doesnt mean that no action was taken anymore.

Is that you Richie? I hope you aren't on this site from a county computer...

[i smell bssss]

nonsense, 10-60s are included too. i ran the report at the precinct desk. more nonsense being spread on this stupid blog.

this is finally a chence to get out from all the bs paper work we are burried under

What report did you run?
I'm curious, because in order to get most of the info, you would have to access a few separate "reports" and i believe have supervisor clearance to run the 10-60s information.

[Unregisteredtyyy]

nonsense, 10-60s are included too. i ran the report at the precinct desk. more nonsense being spread on this stupid blog.

this is finally a chence to get out from all the bs paper work we are burried under

Bs paperwork that is part of your job. That takes 3 minutes to write. That shows the county and its govt the volume of calls we handle.

[me t0]

What report did you run?
I'm curious, because in order to get most of the info, you would have to access a few separate "reports" and i believe have supervisor clearance to run the 10-60s information.

There is no report for that hes lying.

[Unregisteredex909op]

I'm not interested in what counts or doesn't count. I have no intention on writing paperwork for the reasons stated here. The population of SC has tripled over the years and we have the same or less amount of cops. Shopping centers and entire communities have replaced vacant land without additional hiring. We are doing more work with less people. All those silly field reports have been wasted time for 20 years.

You can write up everything you want. Document a piss break. Work hard; not smart. I'm going to 10-60 everything.

[guest 55]

Yes, we are having to do more with less. by documenting (writing) all calls we can easily show our work level at any hearing (PERB, arbitration, etc). By 60ing calls we are allowing the dept to short the work we are actually doing.

If the former highway patrol bureau wrote up all of its Dm's, road hazards, police assists, etc they would have been able to present that additional data at PERB. It would assist the case I would think.

[don'tsweatit]

don'y worry about the 60's. wait until a couple of 15's or bias assaults get shit canned, it will be back to writing fields on everything again.

[Unregisteredqqq]

don'y worry about the 60's. wait until a couple of 15's or bias assaults get shit canned, it will be back to writing fields on everything again.

A simple aided case that turns into a death investigation.....when the frank unit comes looking for the field.
Sorry it was 60ed.

[Unregisteredthink]

I'm not interested in what counts or doesn't count. I have no intention on writing paperwork for the reasons stated here. The population of SC has tripled over the years and we have the same or less amount of cops. Shopping centers and entire communities have replaced vacant land without additional hiring. We are doing more work with less people. All those silly field reports have been wasted time for 20 years.

You can write up everything you want. Document a piss break. Work hard; not smart. I'm going to 10-60 everything.

you can only handle one call at a time. The silly field reports are part of your job.
The population has tripled, and levy doesnt want to hire more cops. You 60 a call, you are helping him not hire. you claim to have been here 20 years? Dont you want to help the next generation? and the generations not yet hired? The ones that will be funding your pension, fighting for your benes?
Levy is against us, but hes generally a boob and incompetent, what if there is a ce who is competent and as aggressive as levy?

[i see youuuu]

I'm not interested in what counts or doesn't count. I have no intention on writing paperwork for the reasons stated here. The population of SC has tripled over the years and we have the same or less amount of cops. Shopping centers and entire communities have replaced vacant land without additional hiring. We are doing more work with less people. All those silly field reports have been wasted time for 20 years.

You can write up everything you want. Document a piss break. Work hard; not smart. I'm going to 10-60 everything.

ok harrysplace, you arent fooling anyone

[ex909myass]

I'm not interested in what counts or doesn't count. I have no intention on writing paperwork for the reasons stated here. The population of SC has tripled over the years and we have the same or less amount of cops. Shopping centers and entire communities have replaced vacant land without additional hiring. We are doing more work with less people. All those silly field reports have been wasted time for 20 years.

You can write up everything you want. Document a piss break. Work hard; not smart. I'm going to 10-60 everything.

ok. enough already. i work over there in 909's area, just give me your initials to show you are legit. I don't believe for a second any of those guys would be posting that shit here.

[hairysplace]

ok harrysplace, you arent fooling anyone

probably right, same feigned arrogant selfish attitude

[hairy's bush]

probably right, same feigned arrogant selfish attitude

she sticks out like a sore thumb.

[the gimp]

I'm not interested in what counts or doesn't count. I have no intention on writing paperwork for the reasons stated here. The population of SC has tripled over the years and we have the same or less amount of cops. Shopping centers and entire communities have replaced vacant land without additional hiring. We are doing more work with less people. All those silly field reports have been wasted time for 20 years.

You can write up everything you want. Document a piss break. Work hard; not smart. I'm going to 10-60 everything.

a smarter man than myself once said "just because you are a character, doesn't mean you have character."

[atlast]

a smarter man than myself once said "just because you are a character, doesn't mean you have character."

Great movie. At last a post I completely relate to.

[Unregisteredex909op]

you can only handle one call at a time. The silly field reports are part of your job.
The population has tripled, and levy doesnt want to hire more cops. You 60 a call, you are helping him not hire. you claim to have been here 20 years? Dont you want to help the next generation? and the generations not yet hired? The ones that will be funding your pension, fighting for your benes?
Levy is against us, but hes generally a boob and incompetent, what if there is a ce who is competent and as aggressive as levy?

SCPD has been writing fields since the mid-1960's. There's been no added positions since. All that paper proved nothing and was unecessary. Why should we bother writing one more BS report?

I'm a union guy too, but not on this silly one. I refuse to participate in 'busy work'.

[ex909myass]

SCPD has been writing fields since the mid-1960's. There's been no added positions since. All that paper proved nothing and was unecessary. Why should we bother writing one more BS report?

I'm a union guy too, but not on this silly one. I refuse to participate in 'busy work'.

we are still waiting for your initials. come on, show us your bona-fides.
I work melville and i would like to know what i'm up against.

[hairy's bush]

SCPD has been writing fields since the mid-1960's. There's been no added positions since. All that paper proved nothing and was unecessary. Why should we bother writing one more BS report?

I'm a union guy too, but not on this silly one. I refuse to participate in 'busy work'.

If you were a union "guy" we wouldn't be having this discussion. no self-respecting hwy cop I know would post this b.s.

[Unregisteredqq]

SCPD has been writing fields since the mid-1960's. There's been no added positions since. All that paper proved nothing and was unecessary. Why should we bother writing one more BS report?

I'm a union guy too, but not on this silly one. I refuse to participate in 'busy work'.

Who said new positions? We are talking about new hires. Just simply replenishing the ranks. If we allow them to cut away at our cc total, the county can prove that call volume is down and no new cops are needed.
If you've been around as long as you say, you will be reitiring eventually.
Do you want the deps making the deals with the county or the pba?

[Unregisteredex909op]

Lt M.M., when not crawling around fences at 0500 hrs.