North Patchogue Comm. Elections

[Local Taxpayer]

I hear there's actually going to be a race in North Patchogue. Brian Curry and Larry Stumpo. Any thoughts?

[Taxpayer]

If your looking for someone with fire experience then vote for Larry. If you want someone who talks a good game then Brians your man.

[True Blue]

VOTE.....STUMPO.........

[voter]

this makes me want to vote...not!

[Taxpayer]

My opinion on the vote is simply this:

There is a problem with the commissioners in the North Patchogue Fire District right now and if you need proof
go to a board meeting some day and look at the arguments given to minuscule items needed for the day to day use by fireman of the department. There is a severe lack of any type of managerial experience in the board of fire commissioners, and as a tax payer I have the following opinion. Brian who writes for The local paper also has no managerial experience and what are we doing by electing him as commissioner, adding to an already surmounting problem. Larry who runs a Suffolk County Nursing Facility has the managerial experience to attempt to make things, that have been screwed up over and over again, right. So now you have the facts Mr. Tax Payer get out and do the right thing. Many tax payers come on here and complain about how monies are spent in the Fire Districts, if you want to change things, put some people with real experience in.

[In the Know]

I don't think its that simple. Brian's got a lot of years in that department and his writing is not his "real" job. I believe he is some sort of manager for the LIRR.

He also worked for the State Assembly advising on fire and EMS issues.

I don't belong to NP, but sometimes you gotta find out all the facts.

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[real deal]

Don't forget to come out and vote!!!!

[taxpayer npf]

Those of us that know both of these men no the person to vote for is Larry.. Brian is a big blow heart that has never been a real fireman. He should stick to righting op-ed pieces for the Advance.

Good Luck Larry.

[blackhawk]

it is quite obvious that you don't like brian curry, but before you go on flapping your gums about what experience he has and doesn't have, maybe you should do your homework first. as a young man in his twenties i recall brian being a manager in quite a few movie theatres across long island, therefore giving him not only managerial experience, but also knowledge of budgeting expenses. i'm not saying that this makes him the perfect pick for commissioner, but just get your facts straight before you go and bash the guy.

[Taxpayer]

Noone is bashing the guy, I believe that I was stating my opinion and wrote that in the top of the statement. And lets get real about what you said. A manager who runs a Suffolk County Nursing Home, compared to a manager of a movie theatre when he was 20, once again not bashing but how can you tell me the 2 are even comparable. If someone is a manager at mcdonalds does that give them the stature to run a fire district, I don't believe so, While your sitting their saying don't bash the people until you have the facts, your bashing people, and number 2 you sound pretty silly comparing managerial experience at a movie theatre to being a real manager for most of your life. Once again not bashing anyone but if someone wants to know the real facts of the election I could tell you. As for Brian I hope he feels better he is not feeling too well right now, and I said like the man, just not as a commisioner, so thats my two cents blackhawk.

[blackhawk]

MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS AND CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN THE NORTH PATCHOGUE DISTRICT EVER SCREENED THEIR COMMISSIONER ELECTS TO SEE IF THEY HAD MANAGERIAL EXPERIENCE. IF YOU WOULD HAVE READ CAREFULLY, YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT I CLEARLY STATED THAT JUST BECAUSE BRIAN HAS MANAGERIAL EXPERIENCE SOMEWHERE IT DOESN'T MAKE HIM THE PERFECT CANDIDATE. NOR WOULD LARRY'S MANAGERIAL EXPERIENCE MAKE HIM THE PERFECT CANDIDATE. AS FOR YOU NOT BASHING THE GUY.......WHAT DO YOU CALL THE COMMENT OF BRIAN BEING A BIG BLOW HARD WITH NO FIREMAN EXPERIENCE???????????? IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, HASN'T BRIAN BEEN A MEMBER LONGER THEN LARRY??????? HASN'T HE HELD THE TITLE OF LIEUTENANT SOMEWHERE ALONG THE ROAD????? AND, ARE YOU JOE FIREMAN THAT YOU CAN MAKE THE DETERMINATION OF WHO HAS THE MOST FIREMATIC TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE?????? YOU TOTALLY CONTRADICT WHAT YOU SAY IN BOTH OF YOUR RESPONSES, IN ONE SENTENCE YOUR BASHING HIM AND IN THE OTHER YOUR TELLING HIM TO GET WELL SOON. NOW, I'M NOT LOOKING TO HAVE AN ONLINE RUNABOUT WITH YOU OVER THIS, BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY WHOEVER WINS.....WINS. WHY DON'T YOU JUST SIT BACK AND LET PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN OPINION ON WHO THEY WANT TO VOTE FOR INSTEAD OF TRYING TO PUSH YOUR SO CALLED NON BASHING OPINION ON PEOPLE. HAPPY HOLIDAYS.....AND HAPPY VOTING....

[Taxpayer]

The vote My opinion on the vote is simply this:

There is a problem with the commissioners in the North Patchogue Fire District right now and if you need proof
go to a board meeting some day and look at the arguments given to minuscule items needed for the day to day use by fireman of the department. There is a severe lack of any type of managerial experience in the board of fire commissioners, and as a tax payer I have the following opinion. Brian who writes for The local paper also has no managerial experience and what are we doing by electing him as commissioner, adding to an already surmounting problem. Larry who runs a Suffolk County Nursing Facility has the managerial experience to attempt to make things, that have been screwed up over and over again, right. So now you have the facts Mr. Tax Payer get out and do the right thing. Many tax payers come on here and complain about how monies are spent in the Fire Districts, if you want to change things, put some people with real experience in.



THis is was previous statement I nowhere bashed brian whatsoever and I never contradicted myself aparently your getting seperate posts mixed up because I've written 2 posts about this, the one above, the rebuttle to you and this, so don't start telling people they are bashing anyone and if you read my statement I simply said this is my opinion on the elections I did not tell anyone to vote for anyone I told them to go out and do the right thing because they all complain on here. Number 2, I know many people in North Patchogue, and I never once said anything about fire experience brian has been around longer than stumpo, your right. Furthermore you do not need a commisioner that has fire experience so that never should have been brought up, who cares if you can fight fires, that has nothing to do with being a commisioner, once again my solemn 2 cents, You have a happy and safe holiday yourself blackhawk, not arguing with you simply voicing my opinion and telling you I think your confusing my post with someone else, If brian gets in, he'll do a good job im sure, as well stumpo, i'd rather see stumpo but I am not trying to come on the internet and make a sludge campaign again brian, take care my friend.

[Brian Curry]

For those who stuck up for me, my thanks .... for those who disagreed, you are entitled to your opinions ..thats what makes this country so great.

As far as managerial experience, I think I compare quite favorably to the current board. Though as one poster says that has never been a prerequisite for running. I can recall a postman, a mechanic, and an oil truck driver among others who gave their all to the NPFD. I don't recall their management experience ever being questioned.

Yes, I was a theatre manager early in my resume and have been a "manager" as a Yardmaster for the LIRR for the last 25 years. I have worked twice for our local NYS assembly persons. First, for Bill Bianchi and then for a longer time for Debra Mazzerilli during my tenures with them I advised them on fire and ems issues and negotiated and secured state funds for many projects needed and wanted by fire departments and ambulance corps within the third AD.

I had and still have a personal relationship with many of our elected officials and that rapport is needed when representing the district. I may be a "blowhard" when I write for the paper, but thats what my readers want and it certainly has given me eyes and ears to be able to listen to the people. Same thing with my work with FIRE NEWS, my job is essentially to make sure the paper gets it right and shows FD's and EMS corps in a correct fashion.

As far as my NPFD credentials. I remained an active firefighter until my job in NYC took me away for long hours. I still make my points, but will be the first to admit that I'm not as active as I once was.I am a 30 year vet (life member twice over) who did indeed serve as both a fire lieut. and ambulance lieut.

I have been the Public Information Officer for both the department and the district since 1980 and as such have won praise for presenting our story in a concise and favorable light. For many years I was the Chief Fire Prevention Officer (sometimes almost by myself) and secured PTA and government funding for among other things our robot fire truck (shared with Patchogue FD) and our fire prevention trailer (shared with Patchogue and Medford FD).

I briefly served as Vice President of the department and as such was Chairman of the membership board. My den wall is covered with service awards for these efforts as well as others. I may not be "first due" anymore, but I shouldn't have to defend my participation in the department just because the fires I fought and the ambulance calls I crew chiefed (EMT for six years) are not fresh in everybody's minds.

For those who post here and know me, you probably know that I have almost died in the hospital twice in the last two months. I'm home now and on the way back to health. if the voters deem me fit, I am willing and able to serve. Let the voters speak.

[column reader]

Good Luck Brian, I know you have a huge following, and I also know you're up against a popular incumbnent, but more importantly, watch your health, that ultimatley comes first and foremost.

[Brian Curry]

Thank you for the good wishes, but I have to correct one thing.

This is an open seat. The incumbent Norm Rein is stepping down after a long and great tenure as Commissioner.

Had Rein chose to run again, I would not have chose to run.

[concernedtaxpayer]

What a do nothing dude that guy is. Hey brian, will you get some things done and stop the petty fighting that has been goin on? I hope so - You and Stumpo aught to run adds about what you will do to change things rather than giving us the bogus(i mean boring) resume crap about how many years you have volunteering. Just my opinion. good luck.

[concernedtaxpayer]

What was I thinking - If you really wanted to change things you would have ads displaying where you stand and what you will do. since all you care about is building your ego and attaining the top of the volunteer chain, you'll just spew all the years of service this, and all the years of volunteering that, etc. 0H my GOD! I gotta go and puke!

PS- Id like to spit on every elected official!

[real deal]

TODAY IS THE DAY 12-14-04 THE DAY TO GET OUT AND VOTE........VOTE STUMPO......STUMPO WHO IS GOING TO BE AROUND FOR THE FULL FOUR YEAR TERM!!!!! NOT LIKE CURRY WHO'S MOVING OUT OF STATE IN TWO YEARS....................

[Brian Curry]

Gee, you know something that I don't know? Did you buy me a house or land out of state? Did you sneak my retirement papers in while I wasn't looking?

While I have made no secret that when I retire I will probably "snowbird" and then move out of state I have no firm or concrete plans of where and when at all.

If you're going to vote for Larry, by all means do so, but lets not spread untruths around to gain the advantage.

[thechamp]

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Maybe the commissioners should work on their Cheifs. You know, the guys who buff their neighboring districts and steel calls. Granted the quicker emergency personnel get to a call the better but enough is enough. If your people are trying to say that only they can do the job or that they have to justify the expendature related to their new building then rasberrys. Stop stepping on your fellow firefighters toes, try to work together, try to stay in your own district. Maybe those newly elected commissioners can stop this. And while they're at it maybe they can work on the attitudes of their "Paid" first responders. Sincerely, A neighbor and Taxpayer.[/u]

[NPFD]

Maybe the commissioners should work on their Cheifs. You know, the guys who buff their neighboring districts and steel calls. Granted the quicker emergency personnel get to a call the better but enough is enough. If your people are trying to say that only they can do the job or that they have to justify the expendature related to their new building then rasberrys. Stop stepping on your fellow firefighters toes, try to work together, try to stay in your own district. Maybe those newly elected commissioners can stop this. And while they're at it maybe they can work on the attitudes of their "Paid" first responders. Sincerely, A neighbor and Taxpayer.[/u]

First of all I'd like to state to you "Neighbor and Taxpayer", You are correct some of our First Responders attitudes could use some adjustment, and that like you said is the commisioners job.
I would like to note on the comment about the Chiefs, If you could give me an example of an incident when we buffed someone elses call I would like to know. Our chiefs, along with our department are very agrresive, but I dont recall any of our chiefs buffing alarms to get us in first. Of course they do what any chief does and if a neighboring department has an alarm they may show up and advise the departments chief of a crew in quarters, If you see a problem with that, than I believe you have some thinking to do. This is just my opinion but Mutual Aid from a neighboring department with no crew in house, would involve a call to county, activating said department waiting for a crew and then responding. On the opposite end of the spectrum, A few scanner heads filling out a full crew at a firehouse and a chief going to the scene to let the neighboring department know, involves simply the chief calling back and saying activate it and getting a rig on the road immediately, whats wrong with that is a question. Furthermore, I doubt many department mind because when we have a job, i'll be it, they've been few and far between this current year, but we call plenty of mutual aid in, so I dont believe this is a problem.
If you are from patchogue and talking about Oak St. than to you I say give me a break.
Ambulance Lt. driving down 112 finds a working fire calls our HQ and advises we have a fire with possible occupants trapped, and so we respond. Reported occupant trapped is a members family, and you fault our chief for not knowing the fire is less than 300 ft. out of district. I believe he may have been a bit pre-occupied at the moment, worrying about the fire. If this is the case your speaking of than give me a break brother. Your department got called and went to work, just like other departments did, There was plenty of fire for everyone at that job, So I don't believe our "Chiefs" did anything wrong.
So as I previously stated some idea of what incidents your talking about would be greatly appreciated.
Understand I am not bashing anyone we get along with patchogue, and most surrounding departments and I am not arguing with you my friend just trying to defend chiefs that, unless you can provide me with times it happened, did nothing wrong.
Let me know what department your from and the incident and I will understand better what your talking about. But please do not bash other departments chiefs, their doing the same job your chiefs are.

Sincerely,
NPFD Fireman

NPFD Fireman, Lets look at the MVA's along Sunrise Highway in Both Hagerman, (Bellport) and Blue Point. And I've heard as far away as Medford. Being a SCPD should not warrent crossing district lines for the sake of "An in house Crew". Sorry but your departments reputation precedes itself.

[NPFD Fireman]

NPFD Fireman, Lets look at the MVA's along Sunrise Highway in Both Hagerman, (Bellport) and Blue Point. And I've heard as far away as Medford. Being a SCPD should not warrent crossing district lines for the sake of "An in house Crew". Sorry but your departments reputation precedes itself.

Forgive me if I get annoyed and defensive with this one, but now I believe enough is enough with the petty bullshit. We recieve our calls from firecom who gives us the location that the passerby gave, not always the correct location. So we get a 16/23 MVA west of hospital rd. or say east of waverly ave on the express portion of sunrise. Now we have a chief a rescue, and an engine per say out looking for it. Your suggestion is that we should just say, oh its not in our district and go home rather than take the extra 5 minutes to go 1 more exit up. Your also suggesting that when we find it we should send all of our rigs home and call your department to be activated, "Excuse me ma'am but your out of the North Patchogue Fire District We cant get you out of your car, but we'll gladly call hagerman and by the time their activated and respond they'll get here in about 10 minutes, g'day ma'am" right !. Second of all, let me use the departments you gave. Hagerman, we take each others calls all the time I recall '2' 12's across from our substation that hagerman handled and didn't even notify us. I also recall quite a few MVA's that we were notified for (I give respect where repect is do, I think Hagermans chiefs do a great job as well as Blue Point). We dont cry about it like your doing though, we say oh well their already on the road. Blue Point, Same exact thing. I recall a call recently where we went on scene saw it was Blue Point's MVA, and it was a simple door job, minor PI,and our 'horrible' chiefs gave us the order to wait for them to get thereand let them take the door, Their Captain eventually said just take it were in traffic but thats neither here nor there. Medford, well if you knew anything about our district than you would not say anything. You said even as far as medford (you mean the town just north of us, bordering us), your obviously uninformed because we share many corners with medford (and in MVA's its very frequent that 1 car is on our side one car is on medford's side). 112 and Woodside, and the entire north side of woodside is theres and the south is ours. Yes we end up handling each others calls there all the time, and as far as I know nobody in either department cries about it. It seems to me your upset with said "SCPD" officer and chief and have a bone to pick with him. It also seems you didn't do your research before making idiotic comments, and if you wish I will get the run stats from my dispatcher of how many calls we've handled out of district and you from whatever department you are can go to county and get your run stats and lets see how many calls we've taken from each other.
The most important thing here is the calls are getting answered in a speedy fasion and not waiting extra time to activate another department and let them respond because the call is 300 feet from our district. If you fail to see this than your just a disgruntled Wanna-Be. When we got sworn in we were sworn to help the people of the community, not go home because it was 1/2 an exit out of our district and we were on the road. In either case brother, you obviously have underlying issues with my department, and/or the chiefs. So please refrain from bashing my department, because I will back up every statement I make on here with facts, so far all i've seen you say is Our chief is bad and our reputation preceeds us.

sincerely once again,
NPFD Fireman

[membernpfd]

maybe this "neighbor/taxpayer" should worry about there own problems involving them ( I know who you are), not the problems of another department.[/b]

[np393]

I've never quite understood this charge of "stealing" borderline calls. Am I missing something here ? Do we get paid for these ? Do we get extra credit for them? Does it happen every day? I agree with the previous NPFD poster we get like 90 % of these "stolen" calls from Firecom.

And why does that happen so often ? Let's look at our borders and see where most of the confusion (if thats what you want to call it) comes from. The residents who are not quite as versed as us territorial vollies (think Sharks vs. Jets in West Side Story) are the scource of a lot of these misunderstandings albeit unintentionally.

To our east we have our border with Hagerman. Which our "wise" forefathers determined should be bordered down the MIDDLE of Hospital Road. That was okay back in the days when it was mostly wooded except for BMH, but with apartment complexes, devolpments and heavy traffic is now very congested. To further confuse you have the La Bonne Vie complex which has 1/2 in Hagerman and 1/2 in North Patchogue and on the NPFD side sits our station three.

I have actually been the OIC on a call from station three and while backing up into quarters fully geared spotted a deep black plume of smoke rising from Hagerman's side of La Bonne Vie. I notified dispatch to advise Hagerman that we were responding to an "unknown fire" and we found multiple working car fires. We knocked it down only for my Chief and I to get a rash of crap from Hagerman's Chief. I guess he wanted me to just call it in, take my gear off and watch it burn.

To our north we have Medford where again our wise forefathers decided the border should be down the MIDDLE of Woodside Ave. Again, good idea in the 50's, but now is almost a major highway with high speed driving. Most of the time we don't know until we pull up what "side" the MVA or anything else is gonna be on. (Maybe we should ask the County Dispatcher "Excuse me is that on the north or south side of the damn' intersection?") Yet again, I can remember the ambulance corp coming up while patients are being worked on and start screaming about us "stealing" the call. On one of them, like a bumper and a quarter panel of one car of a multiple car MVA was on "their" side.

To our west, we have Blue Point which is pretty much clearly defined as being the stream just west of the Sears shopping center. Here the problem lies with some of their commercial taxpayers. The large Gateway shopping center advertises itself as being in Patchogue (adding an new element to any store employee or civilian calling a call in to what district they are actually in) but is firmly in Blue Point except for a small tiny part of an entrance road. Worse yet, The movie theatre which is even further west than the shopping center calls itself the movies at Patchogue (and we have even got calls from there, and no we did'nt respond).

To our south is Patchogue and even I get confused after 31 years as to where one starts and the other stops. There have been honest mistakes with both of us responding to each others calls. But really, guys and girls, do you really think we at NPFD are that hard up for calls that we hide in the weeds hoping to steal from our neighbors?

Relations go up and down in cycles depending on the caliber of all our leaders (NPFD and our neighbors). Who's an idiot? Who's a loudmouth? Who couldn't care less? and Who has no backbone? In the words of the immortal Rodney King ... "Why can't we all just get along?"

[aguest]

Maybe the commissioners should work on their Cheifs. You know, the guys who buff their neighboring districts and steel calls. Granted the quicker emergency personnel get to a call the better but enough is enough. If your people are trying to say that only they can do the job or that they have to justify the expendature related to their new building then rasberrys. Stop stepping on your fellow firefighters toes, try to work together, try to stay in your own district. Maybe those newly elected commissioners can stop this. And while they're at it maybe they can work on the attitudes of their "Paid" first responders. Sincerely, A neighbor and Taxpayer.[/u]


thanks for your input GS. jealousy will get you no where....

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