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Twisted
09-22-2004, 09:20 PM
You can go right to them, their meetings should be posted in the local papers or call their dispatcher and find out when it is. Then go to their meeting and put your complaint on the record.
The problem with the commissioners is they govern themselves and the State lets them do it.
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selden mom
09-22-2004, 10:15 PM
Where can I go when I have a complaint about the Fire Commisioners in my Fire District?
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OoomaBlahBlah
09-23-2004, 07:40 AM
I would advise you to call the Fire District to make sure you are on their agaenda, like some school districts, fire districts do not run an "open" public meeting , you can sit in and listen but not talk unless your compliant or business with them is placed on the meeting agenda. Should you get no satisfaction there are other ways of logging complaints, andit DOES NOT involve Newsrag, you can call or write to teh New York State Comprollers Office concerning your complaint/business/problem with your fire district or you and like minded citizens can form a group of people and run your own canidate for Fire Commisioner in December.
selden mom
09-23-2004, 09:44 AM
Apparently the commisioners are allowed to change the rules to suit the needs of their own families but those rules dont count for anyone else. I have been told by a
member to hold on till after the next elections and things will change. I hope so because to me this is a type of
corruption and who knows what else goes on that we dont know about.
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usher
09-23-2004, 10:01 AM
corruption in selden never? or should i say skelden
Commissioners Meetings
09-24-2004, 10:21 AM
Things have been changing every year for the past 3 years. The Department and community finally got their act together and started voting out the dinosaurs that have been there forever. Some of the changes in commissioners haven't been the best choices, but it's only a year or so left and they will be gone too. Rumor has it that this year should be the deciding vote over in Selden for a complete turn around if all goes as planned.
selden mom
09-24-2004, 12:09 PM
That is what I have heard. Wait until January and things will be different.
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selden mom
09-24-2004, 12:12 PM
I was told that if I called the district not to be surprised if I didnt get a call back. One letter is in the mail to the District Office and another one along with a copy of the district letter was sent to Mr. Caracappa's office. Will that get any action? Who knows?
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Twisted
09-24-2004, 09:12 PM
I'm not a member there but I think there is no love lost between the Commisioners (or should I say some of them) and Joe Carracappa. Good Luck!
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selden mom
09-25-2004, 05:27 AM
Hopefully the problems are with the 'old regime' lol.
I have to say I have received a phonecall from Mr. Caracappa the same day he received the letter. Will the Selden Commisioner give me the same respect? So far not.
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selden mom
09-25-2004, 02:50 PM
hey, prouf selden ff, tell us all what happened at the hairy lemon?
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selden mom
09-25-2004, 05:56 PM
#1- My gripe has nothing to do with my son.
so leave him out of this.
#2- Tell me when and where the meetings are.
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Outsider
09-25-2004, 05:59 PM
Could this have anything to do with an Ex-Chief and the fact that he is a sexual pervert???
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selden mom
09-25-2004, 06:08 PM
My son is only 17 years old and is trying very hard to become a part of the fire dept. We have to pick him up because under the LAW he cannot drive alone until he turns 18.
I have nothing against the Selden Fire Department. I have a gripe with the people who make and break regulations to suit themselves.
I have been told by one of your Firefighters, I should make an issue out of this, but not to expect any cooporation from the commissioner.
Next time you see me at the firehouse, come over and
I will discuss the problem with you if you like. Maybe you
would have suggestion on how to deal with this issue.
And like I said the whole issue has nothing to do with my
son at all so leave him out of this.
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Angel
09-25-2004, 06:15 PM
What exactly is this board for?
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Twisted
09-26-2004, 04:07 PM
Come on children, lets play nice in the sand box!
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Twisted
09-27-2004, 05:47 AM
If you want to start throwing mud, how about some of Selden's neighbors and the incident that was on the videotape! What a shocker for Dad when he saw that one I bet!
Ya just gotta love video taped training sessions.
ha ha
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Twisted
09-28-2004, 07:45 AM
Its amazing that when the original poster to this board puts a clarification up under a another heading thanking the department for helping her solve the issue that it gets taken down.
Looks like someone just likes Hate and Discontent among the troops!
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selden mom
09-28-2004, 10:17 AM
I noticed this morning that it was taken down, and did not have time to repost it. I was disgusted that when someone posts something good they remove the post.
I with to thank Chief Bartnik and the Selden Fire Commisioners for their immediate reply to a letter I sent to them last Thursday. They were truly concerned about the issue that I brought up to them in the letter, and it was quickly resolved. My daughter says thank you too, when she came home from school she was jumping up and down and very glad that I took the time
to straighten things out.
I am beginning to thinks that they should rename this message board "Lets talk trash about our Departments and their members" Thats very sad......
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chief bartnik
09-28-2004, 11:03 AM
thank you for reposting your reply you are right that it is sad that all they (politician's) want is the hate and lies that are written on this board about this dept and others we as a whole should work together to try to solve the important issues we deal with and thats providing a service that all our tax payers ,friends and our family deserve because it doesn't matter what happens inside our doors it the outside that means the most lets all work together and that means ALL fire and EMS Dept's.
2nd Asst Chief J Bartnik
FireFighter
10-03-2004, 07:38 AM
Again, why did you find it necessary to post your retraction not in the same place you lambasted the Department and District. Did you not want people to know that they might have actually done something when they received your letter?
selden mom
10-03-2004, 10:58 AM
I just thought more people would read it if I posted it under a new title. I have no problem acknowledging the cooperation I received from the Department.
I object to you referring to my issue as lambasting. I was given incorrect information by one of the Selden Firefighters speaking as an Advisor in the Department.
I was very satisfied to the response I got to my letters. I personally spoke to Chief Bartnik, and got return phone calls from Commissioner Matthews and from Joe Caracappa.
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FireFighter
10-03-2004, 01:04 PM
Just because you received wrong information, doesn't mean what you said on here wasn't lambasting. Maybe you should check out your information before you write the wrong information
selden mom
10-03-2004, 04:30 PM
I was told something by someone in an "official capacity"
representing the Department, why shouldn't I believe him? This was not some little chit chat I had with this Fireman, it was an official matter, where he was representing Selden Fire Dept. And believe me he had plenty more to say which I never repeated on this board.
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The Junior Advisor
10-03-2004, 09:19 PM
To Selden Mom:
Well, Just after reading your last post, and how quick you are to blame me for giving you the wrong information, let me paint you a picture. Why would I just out of the blue, tell you what i did. Do you think that I was just having a bad day, a just wanted to take it out on you child! So, i just came up with this story that she is to young to join? This is after I was your sons advisor for how many years, and now your quick to side with the people who were looking to harm you, instead of sticking with the one person who was by you, and your families side.
You really have no clue how upset I was I had to tell you that your child was to young to join. I went to all the firefighters that Im friends with, that have there own kids in the dept and ask them to back me when I was going to present this problem we had to the department. I was going to ask them to stick there necks out on the line with me, just so we could get your kid back into the company. And they all agreed. But , because Chief Bartnik, being the good person that he is, he beat us to the punch so no one would get in trouble, and got your child back in before it hit the fan.
What I told you in front of the firehouse last week is what I was told to tell you. I have no reason to lie, change my story or give you the WRONG INFORMATION. So, if that is the way you feel about me, 'PLEASE' the next time you need a favor, which you have asked many of me in the past, find someone else.
I would not want to give the wrong information .
Captain Joseph Herrera
Asst Junior Company Advisor
selden mom
10-04-2004, 10:16 AM
I really do not wish to discuss this on this forum I have called Chief Bartik and requested a meeting to discuss your post.
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NOT a Selden FF
10-04-2004, 10:45 AM
Are you hot ??
You sound like you could use a good shag.
Sister
10-04-2004, 10:52 AM
What was on the video tape???
Got us all curious,dont leave us hangin.....
Details please.
Twisted
10-04-2004, 12:27 PM
nah nah I gotta keep that one in the hip pocket for a rainy day. I t was thrown out there to stop some of the BS from goin on!
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joe citizen
10-05-2004, 07:04 AM
Do the call your town skeldon?
not a seldonite
10-05-2004, 07:57 AM
Too many skells and perps not enough humans.
FireFighter
10-05-2004, 10:35 AM
, if as you claim you had no wish to lambast the District/Department, then why didn't you just ask your questions of the JR adviser and wait for an answer to your letter before posting here??????????
concerned FF
10-12-2004, 06:07 AM
are you people kidding me a fine orgnization like the sfd being bashed again for shame.
concerned FF
10-12-2004, 07:27 AM
nothing happen i hear it was just a nice day
leave the drama at home
10-12-2004, 05:38 PM
why is it that it takes 6 months to get in the fire department. Whats the point of the volunteers needed signs? You should be in the department a lot quicker all you need is to fill out an application and wait for a background check. Since when does it take 6 months for a background check to come back. Last time i checked when u go for a job it only takes 2 days for a background check to come back!!
concerned ff relief
10-12-2004, 06:28 PM
Someone found a hair in the lemon for the tequila shot!!
JustAnotherPsycho
10-14-2004, 05:26 PM
That's all? 6 months? If you were being investigated for PD or City Fire, it sometimes takes a year or more. 6 months is nothing for a PROPER background investigation. When a shabby one is done, who knows what could slip through the cracks...maybe one of those little worm firebugs that light fires so they can get off.........relax. Patience is a virtue, especially in the fire service.
HomelessHobo
10-14-2004, 06:16 PM
I knew going to that bar wouldn't be good...now they are growing hair on the lemons....maybe I'm just drunk.
Address Address
10-22-2004, 10:24 PM
Since when is the Hairy Lemon on Woodmere Place? And please employ spell check fellow Seldenites.
Hairy
10-23-2004, 01:43 PM
You don't need to worry about our spelling,
YOU NEED READING LESSONS.
"Since when is the Hairy Lemon on Woodmere Place?"
It's not. Nobody here claimed it was. Try reading again,let us know where that post is.
OLDTIMER
10-23-2004, 03:37 PM
ur son is the exact reason why juniors shouldnt be allowed to join at 17...and to comment on driving....u should slow down and curb the erratic driving when driving ur son to answer a call...especially when using HIS department issue blue light and especially when UR NOT COVERED UNDER THE DEPARTMENT INSURANCE!!!!!.....ur son is the member...not you!!.....so if u wanna start some issues, maybe others should be started as well
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Address Address
10-23-2004, 05:09 PM
Boy are you a bright one. Let me be so bold to explain this comment to this ignoramus. The Hairy Lemon is on Middle Country Road. It has been since its grand opening. The fire house is on Woodmere Place. I do believe since the early 60's or 70's at least for that particular building. Moron, what happens in a local tavern has nothing to do with what happens in the fire house. The shame of this is that the fire department is a brotherhood, or should be. How about protecting all members, and their families, who are there to serve their community. If shadows are cast, keep them in house. And, what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty anyway? This is merely a trash talk forum.
Hairy
10-23-2004, 05:58 PM
"Boy are you a bright one. Let me be so bold to explain this comment to this ignoramus. The Hairy Lemon is on Middle Country Road. It has been since its grand opening. The fire house is on Woodmere Place."
NO $HIT. ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THIS NOW?????
Sorry through your incoherent ramblings it is hard to figure out what it is you are trying to say.
Yes Hairy lemon is on Middle Country Rd.,State route 25,Jericho tpk.
Yes the Selden Fd is on Woodmere Pl.
Your original post stated that The Hairy Lemon is NOT on Woodmere Pl. YOU ARE CORRECT.
But you already knew this.
Nobody posted anything saying The Hairy Lemon was on Woodmere Pl. OR on Rt. 25.
I also did NOT see any posts saying something happened at the Hairy Lemon and that also happened at the FD.
JUST WHAT IS THE POINT YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE?????
YES ABSOLUTLEY "This is merely a trash talk forum. "
selden mom
10-23-2004, 06:06 PM
If you have an issue with me come tell me to my face don't hide behind an anonymous posting.
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Address Address
10-23-2004, 06:39 PM
You seem to be missing the point that what may or may not of happened in the Lemon never happened at the fire house. Who cares about the Lemon? Why is the fire department being put on a sleaze-forum trail, based on he said-she said BS?
Hairy
10-23-2004, 06:53 PM
"You seem to be missing the point that what may or may not of happened in the Lemon never happened at the fire house."
If something happened at the Lemon it would be very hard for the same thing to happen at the FD. How could the same people/circumstances exsist in 2 places at the same time? If it happened at the Lemon,THAT IS THE LEMON. If it happened in the Firehouse then THAT IS THE FIREHOUSE. 2 different places.
"Who cares about the Lemon?"
Obviously YOU do. YOU brought it up.
"Why is the fire department being put on a sleaze-forum trail, based on he said-she said BS?"
It is??
Again, can not find any posts here refering to such statement.
OLDTIMER
10-24-2004, 07:56 AM
the issue was just brought to ur attention....im being anonymous for ur benefit....if u want me to "come out of hiding" i'll do so in front of the board of fire commissioners and the chiefs office.......keep being testy and ur son will be on the outside looking in
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Taxpayer
10-24-2004, 09:50 AM
hope your not one of the oldtimers who just stirs that sh** that I hear seems to be the norm. If you not part of the solution, your a part of the problem.
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selden mom
10-24-2004, 10:18 AM
Don't threaten me or my son. I have done nothing wrong. I have spoken to a commissioner and he is aware of the fact that I or my husband drive him to calls. Please don't remain anonymous for my sake. Absolutely call one of the chiefs and have them call me. I really would like to know who you are.
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notsooldtimer
10-24-2004, 02:20 PM
Just a note to oldtimer.....
NYS law allows "mom" to have a blue light.
New York State vehicle and traffic law:
Section 375 sub 41 sub 4:
4. Blue light. One blue light may be affixed to any motor vehicle
owned by a volunteer member of a fire department or on a motor vehicle
owned by a member of such person's family residing in the same household
or by a business enterprise in which such person has a proprietary
interest or by which he or she is employed, provided such volunteer
firefighter has been authorized in writing to so affix a blue light by
the chief of the fire department or company of which he or she is a
member, which authorization shall be subject to revocation at any time
by the chief who issued the same or his or her successor in office. Such
blue light may be displayed exclusively by such volunteer firefighter on
such a vehicle only when engaged in an emergency operation. The use of
blue and red light combinations shall be prohibited on all fire
vehicles. The use of blue lights on fire vehicles shall be prohibited
and the use of blue lights on vehicles shall be restricted for use only
by a volunteer firefighter as provided for in this paragraph.
Key sentence here:
"owned by a member of such person's family residing in the same household"
I believe this would also cover "mom" as far as insurance is involved.
a member
10-24-2004, 04:15 PM
:"> :"> :"> :"> :"> THIS IS TO THE MEMBERS OF THE SELDEN FD THAT ONLY HAS BALLS TO WRITE ON THIS @#%$ BOARD :"> :"> :">
ONCE AGAIN YOU ALL CANT KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT MAYBE FOR ONCE YOU ALL CAN ANSWER AN ALARM LIKE 16S AND ALL OTHER CALLS LIKE YOU SUPPOSE TO .YOU ALL HAVE NO BALLS YOU TALK WELL ON THIS @#%$ FORUM BUT YOU NEED YOUR MOM TO WIPE YOUR ASS. FOR A CHANGE DO THE JOB YOU SWORE TO DO AND STOP BEING A BUNCH OF @#%$ JERKS.
WORRYING ABOUT A @#%$ BLUE LIGHT SHOULD BE YOUR LAST CONCERN AT LEAST THIS KID MAKES IT TO THE FIRE HOUSE I CANT SAY THE SAME FOR YOU.
AND YES I AM A MEMBER OF THIS DEPT SO I DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY WHAT I WANT AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT TO @#%$ BAD GO CRY TO YOUR MOMMY BECAUSE YOU MOST LIKELY STILL LIVE THERE.
:"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :">
FYI
Not everyone that posts here is a member of Skeldon, myself included.
But i agree you people need to get out for a call once in awhile, especially those pesky 16's.
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Member
10-25-2004, 04:17 AM
:"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :">
:"> WHAT I POSTED WAS MEANT TO GO TO THE SELDEN FF THAT WRITE ON THIS @#%$ BOARD AS I DID STATE I DID NOT ASK YOU A OUTSIDER OF THE SELDEN FD FOR YOUR COMMENT IF YOU DO BELONG TO ANY DEPT WORRY ABOUT THEM IM SURE THEY HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS WE HAVE.
AND FOR CALLING MY TOWN SKELDON GROW THE @#%$ UP TO ONCE AGAIN YOU MOST LIKELY DON'T LIVE IN THIS TOWN SO WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN .
SELDEN HAS ALOT OF FIRE FIGHTERS THAT DO CARE AND DO ANSWER THE ALARM ITS THE SMALL FEW THAT HAVE NO BALLS ABOUT ANYTHING AND NEED THERE MOMMIES TO CLEAN THERE ASS.
THE SMALL FEW ONLY COME OUT WHEN IT SOUNDS LIKE ITS A NEWS TYPE CALL HOPING TO GET IN THAT @#%$ BAG NEWS DAY OR THEY PULL A CAMERA OUT OF THERE TRUNK AND FILM THEMSELVES GET LITTLE DIRTY AND SAY HEY MOM IM ON THE NEWS OH YEA DON'T FORGET THE BUTT STUCK IN YOUR MOUTH MAKES YOU LOOK GOOD (NOT ASS HOLE)
AND BY THE WAY THIS WILL BE MY LAST POST ON THIS @#%$ BAG BECAUSE I KNOW I ALREADY PISS OFF THE MEMBERS THAT I HAD TO :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :">
WFD445
10-25-2004, 06:29 AM
It may be affixed to Mom's car, "One blue light may be affixed to any motor vehicle owned by a volunteer member of a fire department or on a motor vehicle owned by a member of such person's family residing in the same household", but her little boy better be driving it while it is being used "the use of blue lights on vehicles shall be restricted for use only by a volunteer firefighter as provided for in this paragraph". And remember it still has to be authorized by the Chief.
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It looks like a matter of interpretation to me. It is being used for the firefighter to respond to the firehouse does not state that he has to be the driver of the vehicle.
dlb51
10-25-2004, 10:31 AM
Quote:It is being used for the firefighter to respond to the firehouse does not state that he has to be the driver of the vehicle.
Yes, but does Mom have a blue light card issued by the Chief of Department? If not, I wouldn't want to have to be the lawyer defending the case if she gets into an accident.
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Do you IDIOTS really need everything spelled out for you????
"The use of blue lights on fire vehicles shall be prohibited
and the use of blue lights on vehicles shall be restricted for use only
by a volunteer firefighter as provided for in this paragraph."
The blue light in "mom's" car is for her "SON", "mom" is not the member her "SON" is. The blue light and CARD were issued to "SON". It would be legal for "SON" to use the blue light while "MOM" drives him to an alarm.
It would NOT be legal for "MOM" to use "son's" blue light to say, get past some slow driving idiot from seldom.
GET IT NOW?????
1 MORE TIME......
THE PURPOSE OF THE BLUE LIGHT IS TO GET SAID FIREFIGHTER TO THE FIREHOUSE, IT DOESNT MATTER WHO THE DRIVER IS, AS LONG AS THE FIREFIGHTER IS IN THE VEHICLE.
My God you people are so damn petty.
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UFM904
10-25-2004, 01:59 PM
""4. Blue light. One blue light may be affixed to any motor vehicle
owned by a volunteer member of a fire department or on a motor vehicle
owned by a member of such person`s family residing in the same household
or by a business enterprise in which such person has a proprietary
interest or by which he is employed, provided such volunteer fireman has
been authorized in writing to so affix a blue light by the chief of the
fire department or company of which he is a member, which authorization
shall be subject to revocation at any time by the chief who issued the
same or his successor in office. Such blue light may be displayed by
such volunteer fireman on such a vehicle only when engaged in an emer-
gency operation""
The entire VTL on Blue Lights
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UFM904
10-25-2004, 02:02 PM
". The use of blue and red light combinations shall be prohibited on all fire vehicles. The use of blue lights on fire vehicles shall be prohibited and the use of blue lights on vehicles shall be restricted for use only by a volunteer firefighter as provided for in this paragraph
"
Sorry I left that part out.
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Ummmmm
10-25-2004, 02:08 PM
Uhhh the vtl section was already posted here(page 3).
Thanks though appreciate the effort.
selden mom
10-25-2004, 02:24 PM
I will no longer be using the Blue Light when driving my son to the firehouse. But, due to the laws regulating new drivers. I will continue to drive with him to the firehouse until he turns 18.
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Another Dept
10-25-2004, 06:02 PM
You guys are getting silly. Almost to the point of embarrassing. Your probie is responding to calls! Who cares how he gets there. Do you really need to air this out here?
My Dept
10-25-2004, 09:31 PM
Who ever you guys are that don't know enough to stay off this thing with any business that involves the Firehouse - Wake Up and look at some of the trash you idiots have been writing. The Chief should have the Rec Room computer pulled and / or suspend anyone that brings up any of our Department business on this site!
I can hardly wait for the next department meeting to see where this goes!
You seem to pretend like you know everything. But I wonder if you just throw things out there to stir the pot. Maybe you should keep keep your mouth shut. What's UFM anyway??
UFM904
10-26-2004, 06:41 AM
PRFD, I don't pretend to know everything nor do I think I know everything. However, if I see someone posting something either that needs clearing up, or is just plain incorrect, I have every right to post if I'd like. Most times, if I'm posting something, I'll post my reference material with it. This is an open forum, and anyone can post if they like, and I chose to post. I do not like to stir the pot and walk away as anyone that knows me knows that is not what I'm about. I was unaware that the VTL was posted by notsooldtimer until Ummmmm
posted that it was on page three.
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dlb51
10-26-2004, 07:15 AM
Quote:The Chief should have the Rec Room computer pulled
Damn, now what can I do? I couldn't possibly have internet access anywhere other than the recroom.
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My Dept
10-26-2004, 07:23 AM
Yes you could, but the majority of the quick hit remarks are being made from the Rec room.
dlb51
10-26-2004, 07:56 AM
Quote: Yes you could, but the majority of the quick hit remarks are being made from the Rec room.
And you know this, how? You see the IP address of each post?
You can be anyone you want here.
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WOW you idiots do realize you can post on this message board from anywhere in the WORLD?
If you dopes are posting from a department/district computer then you really are DUMMER than I thought!!
Oh and heres a genius idea...."The Chief should have the Rec Room computer pulled and / or suspend anyone that brings up any of our Department business on this site!"(ummm..the constitution protects OUR right to free speech,as long as its the truth)
Great idea DUMDA$$ any other CONSITUTIONAL RIGHTS you want your Chief to violate????
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My Dept
10-26-2004, 07:07 PM
Its not a right to have a computer in the Rec room its a privilege that the members get to use. The only problem with pulling it is you wind up hurting the masses for the actions of a few. But then you, as a know it all, figured that one out already.
The other issue is that of it being a Privilege to be a member of any department in the first place and not piss on the guys you work with all the time, but then again that’s known as brotherhood, something I’m sure you know nothing about. The fire service is supposed to protect its own and not spread every little bit of gossip around.
In example and I’m not saying this is the case, but if it were true, would you want everyone to tell the world that your mother was a slut and she did everyone in the firehouse. I don’t think so, but that would be my 1st Amendment right as per your statement. Wake up and realize this board hooks you, then reels you in and then spits you out. If you are here just to continue to start crap then you ae no better then any of the other loosers who don't have a life except to be on here or if your as smart as you think you are you can end it while you still can.
"would you want everyone to tell the world that your mother was a slut and she did everyone in the firehouse. I don?t think so, but that would be my 1st Amendment right as per your statement."
Would I like it? Absolutley not. But again if such a statement were TRUE(key word here TRUTH)and someone wanted to talk about it, it is their right to. That was the point here.
To suggest your Chief should violate someones constitutional rights, just because you do not like what someone else has said is wrong. You dont have to like what someone else is saying AND you do not have to agree with it. Sorry thats the way life is, if you do not like it i can only suggest moving to a country where its citizens do not have so much freedom. Iraq comes to mind.........
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FIREMAN
10-27-2004, 03:19 AM
Do you guys realize how stupid this is that you guys are getting your self all worked up over a what 17-18 year old probie... when all of you are in your 30's or more.. Honestly my two cents are instead of bringing this stupid thing about a blue light onto a message board why didnt one of the older guys let him know personally to his face... I am sure the kid has been on probation alot more than this past few days...Ya know what sickens me is the guys that started the whole argument about this are the kind that when they go home there WIFE makes THEM put on the apron and makes them do the cooking and cleaning while she sits down and has a beer. And now you guys are going to waste time and energy and argue over this kid at a department meeting give me a break...
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Local Firefighter
10-27-2004, 05:52 AM
If one of you cry babies live in the same neighborhood why not offer to pick him up instead of crying about his mom driving him. Tell him if he wants to go wait out at the curb and if you are going you will pick him up as you pass. Damn, you guys are a bunch of fags. This is the future of your dept that you are crying about. You should be happy that someone at such a young age is even interested.
dumbasses
10-31-2004, 11:41 AM
I personally know the kid from Selden. He is very dedicated to his department and HE IS MAKING CALLS! Probably making a lot more calls than those of you who are bashing him. Who cares how he gets there as long as he is making his percentage? His performance on the fire scene doesn't depend on who got him there.
pirateship
10-31-2004, 11:56 AM
I have to say that if you guys have nothing better to do than bash a probie for how he is responding to calls than that is sad. It sounds like the kid either doesn't have his license or his mother doesn't think he's been driving long enough to be able to safely respond to the firehouse. Obviously this kid is makin his percentage and is making the trucks, doing what he is supposed to do. You should be applauding this kid for doing whatever it takes. I would like to applaud this kids mother for stepping up and being dedicated enough to bring her son to the firehouse for a call. Most parents wouldn't do that that. Also she wont put up wit the @#%$ you guys give her and i applaud her for that. Time you guys find something more constructive to do instead of bashing a probie for what he does to respond to the firehouse. Grow up guys. It's a brotherhood start showing it. Stay low be safe.
ANGEL2
11-05-2004, 07:04 AM
I REALLY THINK THERE SHOULD BE ONE RULE AND ONLY ONE RULE IF YOU CAN NOT DRIVE A VEH. BY THE STATE OF NEW YORK YOU SHOULD NOT BE IN THE SR. ACTIVE DEPT. MAYBE A JR WOULD BE MUCH BETTER FOR UR SON SELDEN MOM
dlb51
11-05-2004, 08:43 AM
Quote:I REALLY THINK THERE SHOULD BE ONE RULE AND ONLY ONE RULE IF YOU CAN NOT DRIVE A VEH. BY THE STATE OF NEW YORK YOU SHOULD NOT BE IN THE SR. ACTIVE DEPT. MAYBE A JR WOULD BE MUCH BETTER FOR UR SON SELDEN MOM
First, please don't type in all caps, it makes it hard to read.
Why should you have to have a license to be a member? We had an ex-chief that lost his license, but was still very active, lived behind the firehouse and would walk across to alarms. Ever hear Gladys from Middle Island on the radio? She walks to all alarms. If the kid can find a way to the firehouse for the alarm without having to drive there himself and is an accepted member of the senior FD, what's the beef?
The only issue I would have is that the Chief should not issue a blue light card to someone who's not able to use it himself.
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ANGEL2
11-05-2004, 10:45 AM
why did he loose his drivers license (hum lets think about that one) and i believe that it was more of a stumble across the parking lot and straight to the rec. room, i just think 17 is to young to be in a fire dept. i think that 18 is to young also
dlb51
11-05-2004, 10:58 AM
Quote:why did he loose his drivers license (hum lets think about that one)
First, it's lose, not loose, loser. Second, I don't know why he lost it.
Quote:and i believe that it was more of a stumble across the parking lot and straight to the rec. room,
Um, no, he would be one of the first ones to yell at anyone for even thinking of going on a call after drinking. If you've read some of my earlier posts, you'd see that my Department is now a dry department, so keep your uneducated, foregone conclusions to yourself.
Quote:i just think 17 is to young to be in a fire dept. i think that 18 is to young also
Yeah, and I think 18 is to young to be sending these boys to war, but that's another topic. Some of the best firefighters we get come up through the ranks of the juniors.
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not from selden
11-05-2004, 11:05 AM
i think that all you can do is go through others quotes and tear them apart. And if you want to believe that your dept is a dry dept keep on thinking that
no angel 1
11-08-2004, 04:55 PM
"why did he loose his drivers license (hum lets think about that one)"
Who said he LOST his license.
He is 17 years old.
I believe at best he might have a JUNIOR license.
A JUNIOR license only lets him drive to and from work/school.
I agree too, 18 years old is too YOUNG to send OUR kids to war.(in a fire OR on a battleground)
dlb51
11-09-2004, 07:57 AM
Quote:Who said he LOST his license.
He is 17 years old.
Um, read what that was in relation to, it had nothing to do with you son, it was to do with an ex-chief from my department that I had mentioned.
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SFD MEMBER
11-09-2004, 02:41 PM
YOU ALL GOT TO GET A HOBBY THE ROOKIE HAS A JR LICENSE THATS ALL HE CANNOT DRIVE TO THE FIRE HOUSE BECAUSE OF THE RESTRICTIONS ON THAT JR LICENSE THATS ALL NOTING TOO IT HUH
AND BY THE WAY HE IS ONE OF OUR BETTER ROOKIES SO LAY OFF HIM AND PUT MORE OF YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE SCHOOL BOARD THEY ARE ALWAYS SCREWING US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not in Selden
11-09-2004, 02:51 PM
Its nice of a selden firefighter to complain that the school board is always screwing them.
Remember that when they discuss the property tax abatement that the neighboring schools are, and if you already have it, remember it gets approved every year.
So think before you speak, but in reading this thread there arent many sensible people in selden anyway. Instead of sitting on here, answer some ambulance calls, your district needs you
unbelievable
11-09-2004, 02:52 PM
People, he is a member getting to the firehouse. From how I see it, we all need all the help we can get. Especially selden, they get there asses kicked on a daily basis. You know your just going to end up alienating a probie. He'll be able to drive in less then a year. I think the mom should get an award for being such a dedicated parent and helping out the community. Selden Mom, I wouldn't even respond on this board anymore. You are doing a good job. Selden should be proud to have such a dedicated member at such a young age. Lord knows they are few and far between on the island these days. Selden is no better or worse then any other dept. Just some dipstick with too much time decided to air dirty laundry on here, anonymously. He must be a popular guy at the firehouse!!! Bet he isn't even a member of Selden, or if he is, he isn't well liked. Selden firefighters, if you don't type, they have nothing to respond to. You want to bet that the people stirring this s**t pot are not even members of Selden. They probably are the laughing stock of there own firehouses. You people keep driving everyone away, and there won't be any volunteers left. Then what are you gonna say when the paid guys are rolling your trucks for you??? Thats not fair. Well you did it to yourself by either running everyone out or not getting out. Either way, here comes the paid wagon. We really are our own worst enemy.
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JeffR
11-10-2004, 05:11 AM
Except it was Mom that started this thread and brought her problems to this board. If he's going to do an adult job then she should mind her business. But wait, she's a mom so give her an award. You're the unbelievable one.
SFD MEMBER
11-10-2004, 08:51 PM
the one thing you wrote was correct all the school dists around middle country #11 are giving tax breaks to the fire-service all BUT mcsd#11 so they are screwing us so may be you should get your facts straight 1st before writing your comments or may be you work
for the school dist
Not in Selden
11-11-2004, 05:57 AM
Do what we did go to the meeting en masse and ask why not? Comsewouge isnt doing it either I heard.
Maybe on those automatic alarms get the BOE out of bed or the school adminstrators, they get paid enough
selden dad
11-15-2004, 04:37 PM
whaaaaaat???!!!???!!!
TAXES
11-19-2004, 05:47 AM
ride past the BOE houses with them sirens screaming on the way to calls!!!
Seldon Son
12-06-2004, 06:54 PM
mom! stop it!
Abbott
12-15-2004, 07:31 PM
Who won?
Fireman101
12-15-2004, 07:40 PM
tommy McGregor won by like 5 votes it was in newsday
Abbott
12-16-2004, 06:22 AM
Thank You
Life Matters
12-28-2004, 07:58 PM
I'm sorry, but enough is enough. To all those complaining about how the kid gets to the firehouse, grow up! I'm sure when you were a new senior member fresh out of the juniors it didn't matter. I could care if the kid put a blue light on a freakin tricycle. The point is not how he gets there, but that he got there. When it is your house that is burning and there are only 3 guys on the 1st due and he shows up, I'm sure you won't want him to stay behind. As long as the kid does the job, and yes it is a job, I want him here. Oh and "Selden Mom" as member, I will tell you, thank you for driving your son to help me and my community. Get off this people, this should be a non-issue. We have alot more issues within the dept. that we should be attacking. Can anyone say radios?
I find it funny that Selden Mom likes to complain about the commis. and certain people within the dept., but from what I have heard, likes to put all that aside when she gets drunk up at the bar in the same room with these people. Kinda makes me think-hates everyone for wailing on her son but will drink with them in the same room.
ggggggggggggg
01-11-2006, 11:42 PM
:) :roll: :idea: :twisted: :evil:
There is someone there who should be fired.
Let me get this straight, Mommy comes on this board to defend her son against the big bad bullies, and she drives him to fires? Am i the only old timer around that realizes that this kid is a wuss, and his mom needs to cut the cord? But then again we are talking about Selden, Eastern Suffolk county where the family tree goes straight up! Don't worry mom, im sure your son will receive plenty a wedgie and judging on your posts I can see that he probably spent quite a few friday nights cuddling with mom on the couch. Tell him to ride his hot wheels to the firehouse and park it around the corner. And please, time to get your fat A$% off the couch, turn off Oprah and get a life. In another year when he turns 18 he can drive the family station wagon to the Fire house all by himself.
unknown soilder
02-07-2006, 01:12 AM
Little late their bud... this post started like 2 years... and your such a great old timer.. making fun a young kid.. who could some day be saving your old ass
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