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call east farmingdlae fire department --they are going paid
JoeTP
09-02-2004, 09:22 PM
Can anyone give me some information regarding paid EMS in Suffolk County "volunteer" fire departments? I'm looking for starting salary for AEMT's, job descriptions, and any other info I can get.
Any problems with volunteers, shifts, full time vs. part time, etc.
Any insight would be appreciated. My department may be heading in that direction.
Thank you.
npfd393
09-03-2004, 05:08 AM
Call North Patchogue ... one of the first to go paid "first responder" and 24/7 paid First responder now.
If I may editorialize ..this should not be left up to individual departments to fund this. This is a county wide problem (need for First Responders) and should be addressed at the county level. That would provide uniformity in training, level of care, coverage area and hours in effect.
suprised555
09-03-2004, 06:27 AM
Most departments are paying EMT-CC's about $15 - $20 per hour and paramedics about $18 - $22 per hour.
I would disagree that the county should fund this. The Fire Districts have the legal authority to tax the residents and the legal obligation to provide fire and EMS response. If they want to turn over their multi million dollar budgets to the county who would then decide how to provide service and if need be hire personnel, then fine. We all know that this will not happen. If Fire District "A" receives $2 million in taxes then they should and do decide how to spend it. Their over riding responsibility is to provide fire and EMS service. They decide volunteer vs. paid and if they need additional $$$ for paid then they have the legal authority to raise taxes.
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wannaB
09-03-2004, 11:51 AM
What doe's the training consist of and
how long ? ?
I am contemplating whether or not
to enter into the program.
skell
09-03-2004, 11:33 PM
some advice...don't waste your time becoming an EMT-CC, there's no future there. CCs are given all the tools but none of the education which means patients get treated incorrectly on a regular basis. (e.g. treated for cardiac chest pain when it's not cardiac, or treated for asthma when it's CHF, or treated as a drunk when they're really diabetic)
plus, if you ever decide to take up EMS as a profession rather than a hobby, you'll need to be a medic to get hired anywhere.
my2cents
09-04-2004, 10:22 AM
In theory, the County would be the best avenue to initiate a county-wide standardized first response service. However, once again everyone needs to be reminded that because New York is a "home rule" state, the County has no legal jurisdiction over any of the 94 EMS agencies that have instituted 94 different response protocols, 94 different setsof management rules, 94 different QA/QI programs, 94 different training requirements, 94 different...well, you get the picture.
We're pissing up a rope until this gets fixed. And with the anti-sentiment coming from the overwhelming majority of these 94 agencies, it never will.
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paidisgood
09-07-2004, 08:33 PM
paid crews are good look at all the depts. doing it
Ocrainaugh
09-08-2004, 07:11 AM
I didn't know I was dummer than a medic...BTW, I hire cc's as well as medics...
Peace,
Obewan
chiefnomore
09-08-2004, 08:57 AM
Sounds like someone has the famous GOD complex....you know the old joke:
Whats the difference between God and a paramedic???
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God doesn't think he's a paramedic.
I've seen medics who are the best but I've also seen medics who are a liability at best. The same goes for EMT-CCs. Yes, the medics get more training than the CCs but that doesn't mean that they will be better providers of care.
Try to see the big picture skell...or your name is all you'll ever be....
Be safe everyone..........
Tubie
09-11-2004, 04:25 PM
I heard Lindenhurst is finally going paid!
my2cents
09-11-2004, 06:19 PM
It's about time. They have the second highest mutual aid rate in Babylon Town, right behind Copiague. LFD has some of the strangest old-fashioned nozzlehead mentalities in the County.
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Joker
11-20-2004, 08:35 PM
Did Lindy go paid?
FLYBOY
11-20-2004, 08:40 PM
YOU ARE RIGHT DEPTS ARE ALWAYS GOING THERE ITS JUST AS BAD AS AMITYVILLE CONSTANTLY GOING TO COPIAGUE AND IN TURN MASSAPEQUA HAVING TO HANDLE AMITYVILLE CALLS...WHILE TRYING TO HANDLE THEIR RESCUE CALL LOAD ALSO
Mikecp421
01-08-2005, 02:48 AM
heres a good one for number 40!!!! Move to the head of the class please!!
I didn't know I was dummer than a medic...BTW, I hire cc's as well as medics...
Peace,
Obewan
dont go to TERRYVILLE!
I didn't know I was dummer than a medic...BTW, I hire cc's as well as medics...
Peace,
Obewan
dont go to TERRYVILLE!
:P Why not go to Terryville? After some bumps in the beginning the program seems to be working fine :!: :!: :!:
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guest 4563
07-30-2005, 03:36 PM
the paid people in the vollie system can work as long as the vollies remember that its not about themselves its about helping the community that is something that the vollies on li have forgotten
Also if you want to work as paid ems you have do do it in another department other than the one you belong to. you can't be paid ems and a volly in the same department.
Guest 6969
08-03-2005, 04:56 PM
Exactly!!!!
Syosset is going paid EMS during daytime hours and is looking for people now
Selden Volunteer
08-04-2005, 12:46 AM
Can anyone give me some information regarding paid EMS in Suffolk County "volunteer" fire departments? I'm looking for starting salary for AEMT's, job descriptions, and any other info I can get.
Any problems with volunteers, shifts, full time vs. part time, etc.
Any insight would be appreciated. My department may be heading in that direction.
Thank you.
Go to Selden Fire Dept. --paid medics,no cc's though--7 days a week,starting time usually between 6 and 8 am and end between 4 and 6 pm. 1st responder--and only ride if an als call or no emt calls in to tech the call. See "CAROL" in the district office. Coram FD also.
Any info where to call, what they are looking for, starting salaries etc. Any info you can share would help.
Thank you.
ssman 2
08-04-2005, 10:49 AM
selden call 631-732-5570
A Guy From the East End
08-13-2005, 07:23 PM
I believe that you can work for the department that you vollie for as long as your "job"title doesn't state EMS/EMT/EMT-CC/Paramedic. I think that's the way most departments get away with that is by calling them house maintaince people.
If im not mistaken, you can work where you vollie as long as you are not there full time. if you work less than 20 hrs. per week you can work where you vollie. There are depts.out there who do this at it is supposed to be all legal like.
just pay em
08-26-2005, 07:49 PM
bout time they start hiring paid crews. maybe fires are still ok but bouncing calls to 2-3 or more depts is a shame..
Also if you want to work as paid ems you have do do it in another department other than the one you belong to. you can't be paid ems and a volly in the same department.
you can work as a paid ems in the same department you vollie for as long as you what you vollie is not the same as what you get paid todo.
I didn't know I was dummer than a medic...BTW, I hire cc's as well as medics...
Peace,
Obewan
dont go to TERRYVILLE!
:P Why not go to Terryville? After some bumps in the beginning the program seems to be working fine :!: :!: :!:
what's wrong with going to Terryville? they pay VERY WELL.
call east farmingdlae fire department --they are going paid
Whats their #?
Also if you want to work as paid ems you have do do it in another department other than the one you belong to. you can't be paid ems and a volly in the same department.
you can work as a paid ems in the same department you vollie for as long as you what you vollie is not the same as what you get paid todo.
Not all departments allow this. Commack for example doesn't allow its members to work there, even if you were a member for only 1 day, because it causes members to say "hey, why should I do this as a volunteer when I can get paid for it."
call east farmingdlae fire department --they are going paid
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