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pepe
07-19-2004, 01:13 PM
word on the street is North Shore will be phasing out there ambulance company by 2006...any truth to this?

SPIN
07-19-2004, 03:36 PM
Are you blind?
Maybe you should be thinking of what won't be NS EMS by 2006.

anon
07-19-2004, 04:18 PM
I don't know about the ambulances, find it hard to believe. But I am pretty certain that it is true about their 3rd division responder units. That was a court mandated program that should have a sunset provision for 2006 or so. That may be to what the rumors refer.
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hmmmm
07-20-2004, 06:24 AM
you people like having those first responder units around?
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tm
07-20-2004, 10:54 AM
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NSEMT
07-27-2004, 12:08 AM
The Ambulance Dept is not going anywhere! I dont know where you heard that from. We are adding more programs in the division. I cant speak about them now but you will find out very soon>>>

Ham
07-30-2004, 08:32 AM
Is there such a place???

skeet
07-30-2004, 09:02 AM
is Alan still at NSEMS??? must be dedicating more time there than he did as GCPFD Fire Commissioner and we all know what happened.....

Bob
08-02-2004, 10:29 AM
CHS didnt "go under" they were sold. The catholic church wasnt making enuf money off it.

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MeMeMeMe
08-02-2004, 07:52 PM
that whole operation will ventually go under, specially when you have idiots running it. its amazing but you dont need a college degree (just yer daddy to donate alot of money) and you wind up VP of emergency services and you get to bring all your butt buddies with you!!

suprised555
08-05-2004, 07:43 AM
The fact is that CHS ambulance continued to lose money and therefore was sold. Whether you want to term this "going under" or not is really not the issue, for whatever reason it was not economically practical for them to continue in operation.

Will North Shore survive, I am sure they will. Will there be changes, small or large, possibly. The Islip first responder program is costing big $$ without any end in sight. At some point in time I am sure North Shore will offer to extend the service if someone pays for it. When that happens I am sure the volunteer depts. will fund their own people and North Shore will stop this service. Remember, North Shore is not happily donating their $ for this program, when they merged with LIJ the Feds required that North Shore spend the $50 million that they claimed they would save by merging in some manner to benefit the community. They could have spent these $$ in many ways but decided the 1st responder program was a good choice.
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LIEMS
08-05-2004, 12:05 PM
When Part "A" Billing for Medicare gets phased out then NSUH wont be able to afford any of the extras that their ambulances benefit over other private ambulances.

Suozzi - a firefighter's
08-06-2004, 05:37 AM
who wouldn't want ALS first on scene providing pt. care the shame is that they are waiting for the ambulance for 30/40 mins. sometimes. You tell me that the vol, system works,not for my tax dollars, calling 911 is like spinning a wheel how many times will it be 24rd.

Medic
08-06-2004, 11:41 AM
The volunteer system does work, if you have the right people! It's an organization just like the one you work for. They have the certification just like you. The difference....their willing to give up their precious time to help others. Their not looking for a paycheck or looking to where some captain america looking uniforms. If you want to help..shut up and join your local ambulance corp and help cut down the response times.

Peeve
08-06-2004, 09:17 PM
Did you mean to say WEAR (clothing)not where (place).Your scary

heyyyy
08-06-2004, 10:57 PM
cooper is no longer with nsems, he is however still with the health system. I think he does corporate stuff now.

emsme
08-06-2004, 11:00 PM
is it true that NS's HazMat team is taking over for Suffolk County?

MeMeMeMe
08-06-2004, 11:01 PM
good to see JJ moving up over there.. he's the only good one with brains and common sense. and he knows how to talk to people... GO JJ!!

bobh
08-07-2004, 04:28 PM
For your info i due volunteer, but like so many of my brothers & sisters in the ems Field. I have to work two jobs to pay my 10,000 property tax here in Islip, If the town took the monies from the so called GEN fund A.K.E the hide away fund. They could put a MEDIC & EMT in a bus 24/7. I wish i had the time like you do living @ home with mom & dad to sit my ass around the Corp. All day with your Clint Eastwood medical buff belt on waiting for the BIG one

NASSAU EMS
08-07-2004, 04:58 PM
IS NORTH SHORE TAKING OVER NASSAU 911 SYSTEM? RUMOR HAS IT SUOZZI APPROACHED THEM TO TAKE OVER AND FIRE ALL THE COUNTY GUYS

Haven't heard that one bu
08-07-2004, 09:09 PM
Well, I due, I also volunteer. The difference between you and the people that really belong in ems is, instead of pissing and moaning about everything that is bad in the ems system, some of us try to make it better with positive input. If you don't like paying 10,000 in property tax...move the hell out of NY. Everything in Long Island costs money..lots and lots of money.

I also don't feel sorry for you because you have to work two jobs. Who in the world doesn't work two jobs. It's called making a living. If you don't want to work more that one job....find a profession that pays more money.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

NASSAU EMS
08-07-2004, 09:11 PM
IM A SUFFOLK COUNTY RESIDENT SO I HAVE NO IDEA, IS SUOZZI REALLY THAT BAD???

ds4758
08-08-2004, 03:36 AM
nshs is a business of talking care of people and medicare is just one of many methods of payment. nshs ems does not survive on Medicare otherwise they would have been out of business along time ago. they surpass any other agency on long island.

queeeennsss
08-08-2004, 05:42 PM
"talking care of patients?" try spell checking FIRST before making a statement!

NSUHEMS8356
08-11-2004, 03:18 PM
In reference to the spelling to the above post, who cares if there is a misspelling to the above statement. You must be one of those disgruntled employees that have been fired for not being able to handle your responsibility as either an emt or Paramedic within the nsuh health system ems division. if you knew anything about this health system you would know that they have been featured in jcaho films (you probably have no idea what jcaho even stands for) for their ems division and haz mat/wmd team (which has been trained by the DHS, NYPD, IAFF,NCFA,SCFA,ETC). You probably do not know that these instructors in nsuh ems/sod division have trained the following hospitals in hazmat/wmd awareness/operations levels: University hopsital at stony brook, JT MATHER HOSPITAL, SOUTHSIDE HOSPITAL, CENTRAL SUFFOLK HOSPITAL, SOUTHAMPTON HOSPITAL, FRANKLIN HOSPITAL, HUNTINGTON HOSPITAL, BRUNSWICK HOSPITAL, MERCY MEDICAL CENTER, AND OTHER HOSPITALS IN THE GREATER NEW YORK HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. IT IS SAD TO SEE YOU ATTACK A PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION THAT DOES SO MUCH FOR NASSAU AND SUFFOLK COUNTIES. WE ARE NOT LIKE ANY OTHER EMS DIVISION SINCE WE ARE PART OF THE BIGGEST HOSPITAL OWNED EMS DIVISION EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER. WE ARE HERE TO STAY AND WILL ONLY GROW BIGGER.

suprised555
08-12-2004, 06:32 AM
Let's look at the facts. Does NSLIJ have an excellent WMD team, of course. How did it come about? It came about with $500,000+ in federal $$ to their system with the requirement that they use these funds to train other hospitals. The training for other hospitals was not due to the NSLIJ system being a "hero" it was strictly a dollars and sense decision. With these federal funds they were able to accomplish what all other hospitals in the region had to without any additional funding. They hired staff, paid for by the grant. They purchased equipment for their member hospitals, paid for by the grant. They supplied training to hospitals outside of their system who requested it until the grant ran out of $$. Once this happened they told other hospital that they could only provide the training if the hospitals paid for it. I am not saying any of this is bad, but let's step back a second and recognize that what NSLIJ has done is a business decision.

Do they have a vast EMS service, sure they do. How did much of it come about? Well, they bought/merged with many hospitals that had EMS services such as LIJ and Staten Island. Once you lump all of the previously existing EMS vehicles under the one umbrella, plus a huge number that NSLIJ added to the system, you have a huge service.

Being bigger does not mean being better.
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NSUHEMS8356
08-12-2004, 08:11 AM
FYI: Staten Island is a completely seperate EMS agency that is not run by NSUH EMS. And LIJ never had their own ems division. Also, the start of the hazmat/wmd team did not come from a grant, it came from the health system. Grant money was received later on after the team was already in existence. Our CEO at the time did not want to see any of our hospitals closed down. (like new york eye and ear was almost shut down to a anthrax scare)

suprised555
08-12-2004, 08:31 AM
While LIJ may not have had a NYC 911 service at the time they merged with NS, they indeed did have one in the 1980's. They have also always maintained a pediatric transfer ambulance.
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queeens
08-14-2004, 03:58 PM
i'm not a disgruntled ex employee nor did i not get hired there. there ALOT of unhappy people at North Shore, just noone has the guts to stand up and say anything, and if you do, they'll find a way yo get rid of you.

suprised555
08-14-2004, 04:28 PM
No union, which is not a big deal but.... Supervisors and management treat the medics and EMT's like sh..it. Mandatory overtime is ridiculous, equipment is crappy, and call review and medical oversight is non existent. You never hear from or see the medical director. Look at our medic course, closed down by the NYS DOH. What an embarassement.
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finally
08-14-2004, 07:17 PM
surprised555.... you hit the nail on the head....

citymedic
08-14-2004, 09:59 PM
The upper management at NSEMS should focus more on their employees and less on themselves. Some of these people barely rode in NYC 911 and now there telling you, how to do your job? People, sometimes it's not about the money, it's about being happy with what you do. You may love being an emt / medic, but the company you work for doesn't fulfill your needs. Believe me, there are PLENTY of jobs outside of NSEMS, all you have to do is take the first step. Who in their right mind would want to work for an company that doesn't even listen to their employees. To have someone tell you that if you don't like they way we do things here, you know where the door is. How unprofessional! You..the employees are the reason why NSEMS is still in business. If your upper management doesn't want your input on how they can make it a better place to work..they you need to find a new employer!

citymedic
08-14-2004, 10:01 PM
sorry about some of the bad grammer, sometimes the hands type too fast.

queeens
08-15-2004, 01:20 AM
There's no union there cause if you even mention it, your gone. Once upper management gets you in thier crosshairs, there is little you can do to be saved.

unless
08-16-2004, 02:19 PM
unless your in the clique

Jealousy
08-16-2004, 03:03 PM
Just because you work for AMR,LIFESTAR,TRANSCARE METROCARE WHOEVER THEY ARE THIS MONTH OR YOU ARE A HUNTER PERP WEARING A SKULL CAP dont be jealous and bad mouth my employer because you cant pass the test to get hired, dont be jealous because our EMT's are making over $60k/yr without trying and our Medics are making over $80k/yr without trying, just shut your mouths one day we will own you too. Every job has its ups and downs ive been there a long time and have never had a problem. All you have to do is your job and treat people the right way and you will never have an issue at NS EMS. It is EMS heaven and I am proud to work there!!!!!!!!!!

suprised555
08-16-2004, 05:37 PM
Don't think that you are the only person on this board who works for NS. The ONLY way to earn the $$$ that you claim is if you average (yes, average) 20-25 hours of overtime every week. Don't quote our salaries as if working 60-65 hours every week is normal, it is not. Most of the overtime is mandatory and if you refuse to work it you are out the door.

When was the last time you saw or medical director or had valid, good, CME? Are you a drone who does everything asked or do you use your brain and ask questions in order to better yourself and the service and then get smacked for it. Lastly, let's be honest, the exam to work here doesn't even separate out the losers.
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Not surprised
08-16-2004, 08:26 PM
"When was the last time you saw or medical director or had valid, good, CME? Are you a drone who does everything asked or do you use your brain and ask questions in order to better yourself and the service and then get smacked for it."

Where the hell do you work? Have you bothered to look at the bulletin board at Syosset,or any of the other stations? They offer all sorts of courses including PHTLS, PALS, ACLS, GEMS, PEPP, CCEMT-P and the FP-C Certification examination. They have general CME at Syosset and Southside once a month, they e-mail all the listings. Pull down your pants, it appears that you are mumbling.

"Lastly, let's be honest, the exam to work here doesn't even separate out the losers."

This may be true if you work here.

citymedic
08-17-2004, 07:17 PM
There are alot of good employees at NSEMS that work very hard at their job, and then there are the employees who have moved up the ladder by either kissing alot of booty, their family donates alot of money or "other" things. Every company has these people working for them and every organization / company has their problems. Do not make it sound like NSEMS is free of "scandal" or internal issues. Heck, if it wasn't for the NSEMS employees we have to start reading the Enquirer to get all the dirt!

As far as your "training" program is concerned, you can give all the classes you want, you can have a million cards in your wallet....it doesn't make you a better EMT / MEDIC.

Not surprised
08-17-2004, 08:35 PM
After being a "City Medic" for many years (10 ), saying that I was one does not mean I am a gift to EMS. The shear arrogance that you display amazes me. But then again, it shouldn't since you are a product of your environment. I learned more in the time after I left the employment of NYC than I ever did when I worked there. Why? Because the opportunity to learn more was afforded to me by the other agencies for which I worked. If you want to learn more, the availability of the programs is always a benefit. If you think you know everything and have seen everything because you work for NYC, then you probably have not on both accounts.

citymedic
08-18-2004, 07:31 PM
You never know how stupid someone is until they open their mouth, or in this case, type on their computer.

I never said I knew it all. Where did I write that comment. I would never utter the phrase. I don't believe anyone knows it all! I never said I've seen it all and even if I did, why would I have to say it! The people that run their mouths off about all that they have "seen" and "done" probably have seen or done half of it or any of it, for that matter.

If your as good as you seem to believe you are, the people you work with and the patients that you treat will see it. It will reflex in your work. Like I said previously, you can attend all the classes, seminars and conferences you want....it doesn't make you a better healthcare provider. I never discouraged anyone from attending theses classes either. I have taken many classes and have attended countless seminars / conferences, why? Not to try to impress anyone with all the cards I have in my wallet. I did it to educate myself and to provide my patients with the highest level of care. I have gained a tremendous amount of knowledge from being a volunteer, working at NS (not ems) and from being in the city. The more you expose yourself to the different parts of the healthcare world, the better you will become. Next time, read what people write, before you decide to type a response.

Have a great night.

Not surprised
08-18-2004, 08:37 PM
"I never said I knew it all. Where did I write that comment. I would never utter the phrase. I don't believe anyone knows it all! I never said I've seen it all and even if I did, why would I have to say it! The people that run their mouths off about all that they have "seen" and "done" probably have seen or done half of it or any of it, for that matter."

Well let's review shall we. Firstly, lets begin with your author name "citymedic". As for the impression you wish to give, it is obvious. The same old, same old. Your previous post stated the following:

"As far as your "training" program is concerned, you can give all the classes you want, you can have a million cards in your wallet....it doesn't make you a better EMT / MEDIC."

What were you trying to say here? Stop your nonsense. Of course it makes you a better EMT/Medic. Advanced education and learning are the hallmarks of any progressive EMT/Medic in EMS. But it seems that you know more than all professionals and experts in the field. Why don't we just throw out CME all together? Yes I am being facetious, because your premise is ridiculous.

"I have taken many classes and have attended countless seminars / conferences, why? Not to try to impress anyone with all the cards I have in my wallet. I did it to educate myself and to provide my patients with the highest level of care. I have gained a tremendous amount of knowledge from being a volunteer, working at NS (not ems) and from being in the city. The more you expose yourself to the different parts of the healthcare world, the better you will become. "

Very good. It seems that you can regurgitate very well. But you still fail to see the point of education, more importantly, continuing education, for improving worker performance and skills. I'll explain it in small words-The more courses and classes someone takes that is relevant to their field of work, the greater the information basis for that employee has to work with to do their job better. Adult education is primarily problem oriented, meaning that a person tends to take a course to address certain deficiencies or problems they may have. It has to be generally related to something the employee does for them to take an interest. If your providing the same old basic EMT/Medic courses, the employee will be bored and interested only to the minimum point needed to complete a requirement. In short, they will generally learn very little, if not nothing at all. But I digress.

"If your as good as you seem to believe you are, the people you work with and the patients that you treat will see it. It will reflex in your work. "

I am only as good as I can be. I hope every day it is enough and I try to improve at every opportunity. I am sure you do the same.

"Next time, read what people write, before you decide to type a response."

I did read it. You gave a general impression by both your name and tone that the NYC EMS System, whether voluntary or municipal, has some kind of supremacy. Your tone was demeaning and your premise on education without merit. A lot can be read into your response that shows some kind of latent anger. Why, I don't know. I don't know how much time you have as a medic or an EMT and what kind of work experience you may have, but it does not seem near enough. And knowing who works in NYC for NSEMS, I am pretty sure I am right.

"You never know how stupid someone is until they open their mouth, or in this case, type on their computer."


Funny, you proved your own point.

You too.... Have a good night.

scpd patrol
08-19-2004, 05:12 AM
I just wanted to thank all the paramedics that work for this program. Most of my co-workers feel the same. I used to work during the day and believe me, it was great seeing those vehicles pull up at 10-9 unconscious, or just before people went down.
I don't mean any disrespect to any rescue squad, but many times, it takes some amount of time for rescue to respond. Many communities, such as Brentwood and Bayshore are so large, that multiple calls go out. I worked in W.Islip, who rarely had trouble getting out, but when they did, you guys were there. Thanks.
Is the program going to continue? i thought it was a 10 year deal?
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citymedic
08-19-2004, 08:45 PM
Boy, I'm really impressed that you can re-type someone else's words. NO, really, very impressive. Like I said before, which apparently your reading the words, but the point is not seeping into your brain. I'm not saying that people in the healthcare field should not take educational classes to better themselves. I specifically "stated" that it does not make you a better healthcare provider just because you have all these cards in your wallet. You could get a 70 on a test and still be a better provider than the person that got a 100. Nobody cares if you can quote what should be done (based upon what learned in class or read out of a book), they care whether or not you can apply it to your patient care. I see you haven't been in ems very long.

As for my name, would it make you feel better if I just made my user name medic, or how about giggles. Who cares what user name I use. I never said I knew it all. I never said I was the best healthcare provider in all the world. I don't need to prove anything to anybody, but apparently you do. I'm very confident in my skills and in who I am. I don't care who you work for, I don't care what you think. It doesn't effect my life. These chat rooms are designed to allow people to voice their opinions. Thats all. You shouldn't take it so personally. If your that sensitive, you shouldn't be in this field.

Since you seem to be so interested in how long I've been in EMS. I have been involved with ems for the past 14 yrs. Mostly, volunteer and loving every minute of it. I don't have to get paid to feel good about what I do. I also don't believe that city medics are the best in the world. However, I would recommend that everyone gets some experience in city 911, it's alot different than the volunteers. As far as you learning more after you left the city, maybe you weren't open to learning anything. You seem to have a negative opinion about the people that work in the city. I haven't worked their all that long, but let me tell you this. I have alot more respect for the people that work in city ems than I do for "some" of the people that work at NSEMS. It doesn't take alot of common sense to transport a person from point A to point B. If your a BLS provider with NS, then your only driving on an ALS call. I know, I know you have to ride at least on shift in NYC 911. Who cares. Are you disgruntled at the fact, that half of the city workers, including police and fire do not like NSEMS, because they try to buff everyone's calls. They get one job and every unit NS has tries to take the call. You guys sound like a bunch of idiots on the radio.

I have alot of friend in NSEMS, I have respect for them because they come in day after day and do their job. They don't complain about every little thing that goes on. They come in, do their job and go home to their families. You need to get a hobby.

I don't' care for your reply or your rebuttal.

Have a great life

giggles
08-19-2004, 08:53 PM
You seem to think that everyone in NSEMS is top notch. A friend of mine was working for NS on a city bus and they had a cardiac arrest and the "new" EMT didn't know how to do CPR. Great screening process you guys have. Quality work!

Are you for real
08-19-2004, 09:59 PM
You make it sound like northshore is the best place to work with the best possible staff that money can buy. You probably work in dispatch and you were probably one of the "medics" in the city that didn't pick up any jobs. You know a Skell!

As far as your training programs, The trainings in the city are given by the physicians who work their, who have been in the medical field alot longer than you have, their not given by other medics who think they are gods gift to ems. They teach us to improve upon the skills that we already have. They have specialists coming in to lecture us about certain medical conditions and how they should be treated. They teach us to go beyond what we learned in our EMT / MEDIC classes. I don't know what agency you worked for in the city, but it must have not been a very good one. Or like the citymedic said, maybe you weren't "open" to learning anything new.

Not surprised
08-19-2004, 10:08 PM
Oh boy, where do I start? Oh, let’s start here. Your now stating this:

“I'm not saying that people in the healthcare field should not take educational classes to better themselves. I specifically "stated" that it does not make you a better healthcare provider just because you have all these cards in your wallet.”

What you said before is:

"As far as your "training" program is concerned, you can give all the classes you want, you can have a million cards in your wallet....it doesn't make you a better EMT / MEDIC."

Either way, it shows a lack of understanding as to the learning process. If you want to say that a “card” does not mean anything, I think it short changing the educational process. It shows that a person attended a course or class and has attempted to expand the learning process. It does make you a better EMT/Medic and there are a lot of people out there a lot brighter than the two of us that have proven with hard data and research. Not your anecdotal experience.

“These chat rooms are designed to allow people to voice their opinions. Thats all. You shouldn't take it so personally. If your that sensitive, you shouldn't be in this field.”

Firstly, I don’t take it personally. However, I find it extremely distressing when an individual, such as you, has a very limited view of EMS. If you like 911 work, good for you. But I suggest you visit other systems around the country and expand your mind a little.

“Since you seem to be so interested in how long I've been in EMS. I have been involved with ems for the past 14 yrs. Mostly, volunteer and loving every minute of it. I don't have to get paid to feel good about what I do.”

Well I wasn’t that interested to begin with, but thanks for the resume. Thank you for your volunteerism and your community is grateful.

“I haven't worked their all that long, but let me tell you this. I have alot more respect for the people that work in city ems than I do for "some" of the people that work at NSEMS. It doesn't take alot of common sense to transport a person from point A to point B.”

Pal, you do not have a clue. Inter-facility transports are not just dialysis runs or whatever your limited view or experience maybe. Some of the patients that are transported by systems such as NSEMS and Columbia Presbyterian are the type that whole healthcare institutions could not care for and you are transporting them to another facility with the hope of keeping them alive, sometimes hours in duration requiring skills that some 911 medics will never see in their careers. But if that is what you want to believe, fine you win. If makes you sleep at night, then I only do nursing home discharges. Stick to 911 work, you’ll do less damage that way.

“Are you disgruntled at the fact, that half of the city workers, including police and fire do not like NSEMS, because they try to buff everyone's calls. They get one job and every unit NS has tries to take the call. You guys sound like a bunch of idiots on the radio.”

Disgruntled? Far from it. I am not the one that is denigrating the supervisors or administrators at NSEMS, you are. I could hardly care less what anyone else thinks because your argument does not apply to me. It could, in general, apply to every municipal and voluntary agency in the NYC 911 system. This is an asinine argument. But I will say this. Not less than 10 years ago, buffing jobs was a regular business. Except back then, we did not cry about other units “taking” our jobs. Your upset because someone is buffing your jobs, oh the horror. Have things change, of course. Should there be more oversight or supervision, probably. But whining about this is amateurish.

“I have alot of friend in NSEMS, I have respect for them because they come in day after day and do their job. They don't complain about every little thing that goes on. They come in, do their job and go home to their families. You need to get a hobby.”

They might not complain, but obviously you do. Are you as vocal to the NSEMS supervisors as you are here? Do you have any potential solutions to the problem? Or are you the type that finds it so easy to point out the problems? We don’t need people to point out the problems (there are dime a dozen), we need people to come up with the solutions. As for a hobby, I have one. I teach. Not at NSEMS, but elsewhere. And yes, all the training courses, including the “cards” got me there.

“I don't' care for your reply or your rebuttal.”

Too bad, huh? Whether you like it or not is of no concern. You come on these boards and insult and denigrate people based on a complete ignorance of the big picture. Who cares if you think somebody’s family member go so and so a job. The truth is they got the jobs and are doing it to the satisfaction of upper administration. And if you knew anything at all about NSUH you would understand completely what the private sector is all about. They would remove or transfer someone if they even remotely felt the job was not getting done. Because that job is not being done to your liking is too bad. If you work for NSEMS and don’t like what is going on, grow some big ones and try to attempt change, more than just complaining about the problem. Come up with a solution and get them to try it. If you still don’t like it, move on to the next village, that is really your only option.


Have a nice night...

Not surprised
08-19-2004, 10:10 PM
"You seem to think that everyone in NSEMS is top notch. A friend of mine was working for NS on a city bus and they had a cardiac arrest and the "new" EMT didn't know how to do CPR. Great screening process you guys have. Quality work!"

The discussion really didn't say that. And like everywhere else, there are some who need more help than others. Trust me when I tell you that no agency is any different or any better. Just some of the problems are different.

Not surprised
08-19-2004, 10:23 PM
"You make it sound like northshore is the best place to work with the best possible staff that money can buy. You probably work in dispatch and you were probably one of the "medics" in the city that didn't pick up any jobs. You know a Skell!"

No, I didn't say that. There are problems, just like anywhere else. As for the skell comment, oh, you got me. Your absolutely right. No, see, I worked for a living in East New York and Harlem. I did my job, just like everyone else.

"Or like the citymedic said, maybe you weren't "open" to learning anything new."

I did not say I didn't learn anything when I worked for the city. To the contrary, I learned a great deal. After, I left the city I was exposed to many different facets of EMS and took advantage of many training and education opportunities that were not available to me while I worked there.

"I don't know what agency you worked for in the city, but it must have not been a very good one."

It was called NYC-EMS prior to the merger with FDNY. I was there through both regimes and each had their own faults and benefits. And it was the best in the country. I am hard pressed to say anything bad about any of the agencies working in the NYC 911 system, they all do a difficult job. I, too, had the same opinion of other agencies. With age and experience comes wisdom. You too may see things differently someday.

Proud NS MEDIC
08-20-2004, 08:07 AM
Well, I have been at NS EMS a long time and its funny how people portray and think how we are run. Anywhere you work you are going to have disgruntled employee's you cant make everyone happy you can only try everyone needs a lil fine tuning here and there. As for FD, PD and whoever else you think doesn't like us ill disagree. Ive been invited to plenty of surrounding Eng. Co's for dinner or lunch or just to sit and relax for a lil bit and when I get there who do they bash not NS I believe they bash the FDNY "SISTERHOOD". As far as a NS medic not being trained I would love to take any medic who has only worked 911 and put them on a vented head bleed who is sedated and transport them from South Hampton to Columbia Presb. Yea lets see one of them do that or how about a simple Cardiac Rescue from Southside to Manhasset as the pt is actively infarcting with Tomb Stone T waves and then we got the good old Balloon Pump Transport try and handle that I don't think so but we are under trained I think not. I'm thinking maybe you are one of the medics who couldn't pass the written test or maybe even the credentialing. Did you know every yr. we do re-credentialing yes it sucks but it keeps you on your toes so before you bash know the health system. Yes, there area few bad eggs that slip through the cracks NS isn't the Mecca of EMS i don't think anywhere is. We can sit here and go tit for tat on I'm better than you your better than me this one is a skell this one talks to much yadda yadda yadda. So just shut your mouth and do your job like WE do and stay safe and go home to our families when we are done.

funny
08-20-2004, 08:11 PM
Your better, I'm better. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Who cares! We are all in the healthcare field for the same reason. ( I think ). Your not the only one who does critical care transports, so just let it go. There are plenty of hospitals in the city that perform the same work you do. Nobody cares how long you have been in the ems field, where you teach, what cards you hold, who you work for or who's the better healthcare provider / system. No one is perfect.

ps: just because there are some emts / medics that choose not to work at ns, doesn't give you the right to "assume" that they couldn't pass the test or the credentialing process. That comment was a little bit on the arrogant side, don't' you think.
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are you kidding
08-20-2004, 08:26 PM
Try transporting a vented head bleed that's sedated. It's not that hard. Keep the pt sedated and make sure the vent is working properly and keep an eye on their vitals. Try running a simple cardiac rescue with tombstone T waves....woah..big job. It's just another cardiac call. You still run it the same way. I hope your not one of these "medics" that spend ten years on scene or at the hospital trying to get a 12 lead ekg. Time is muscle. Do you put in temporary wires in the pts that are electrically unstable too!!! Hey why not just break out the procedure tray and pop in a PPM ( thats a permanent pacemaker) and call it a day. Please stop writing about how great you are and assuming that everyone else in the medical field are a bunch of idiots. You are not the only people that are trained to run critical calls. Enought already!

are you kidding
08-20-2004, 08:30 PM
I meant enough already.

Do you still have doctors and nurses going on your pediatric transports?

NSwannabe
08-27-2004, 05:58 PM
I was one of the students who actually learned something at a North Shore class. The program was good until the administration came in a started meddling. Now, it is a typical NS EMS program. "We are better than the rest and no one can touch us" They didn't care about the regulations which lead to the downfall.

low tolerance
08-30-2004, 05:12 AM
All I'd like to say is that regardless of what "side" you take on this issue, is this the best way to be spending your time? Isn't there something else you all can be doing? Or is this as good as it gets?

SBUHMedic
09-04-2004, 07:48 PM
I like how you tried to sneak in Stony Brook University Hospital into that group. I suppose you didn't think anybody would notice if you didn't capitalize it. Typical NSUH EMS egomaniacal crap. Let me tell you something. The only circumstance NSUH EMS finds itself on SBUH grounds is to deliver one of their EMTALA violations to an institution that will care for anyone! You have some set of balls implying that NSUH has anything to do with ANY training at SBUH. Are your balls federally funded balls, or will North Shore be pulling those back in a couple of years too? SBUH has it's own trainings annually on hazmat and decontamination, and has for several years. Do all of us a favor NSUH EMS and get over yourselves. No matter how many trucks, responders or blue stripes you guys get...I'll still have my civil service benefits and retirement.

Beach Bum
09-11-2004, 04:16 PM
How do you get assigned to NS Islip Beach duty..seems like a nice gig!

ds4758
09-11-2004, 11:56 PM
Go back and work for Life Star

ALC35
09-14-2004, 10:40 AM
Ok, I have to now add my two cents. I have worked for North Shore for 6 years now, and you know what...I like it. There are a lot of people who work here who don't, but I do. It by no means is a perfect garage, as a matter of fact, it's NO where near perfect, but aren't all EMS agencies crap now anyway. I have watched a lot of postings on this site, and funny the topic almost always get's lost within. This thread started by someone asking a simple question, and has anyone really even answered it? No. The answer to the question is no, we are not phasing out the ambulance department. Nobody is for sure if the Islip program will stay or not. It is great for the community, no matter who you work for you have to admit that. Now, to respond to SBUHMEDIC, we are all not egomaniacs. I don't post comments about SBUH generalizing all of your personnel do I? I have had many experiences with SBU medics that have been good, but also some have really sucked. You have just as many idiots working for you as we do here. The moron ratio at any agency is usually the same. We have some guys who still have the egomaniac attitude, but for the most part those days are gone. The days of the good ol' boys club have been gone for a long time. It's just another ambulance department like any else. If you are going to sit there and tell me that you don't have those same people where you work, I think you are a liar. Are you kidding, open your eyes, this is EMS. Over half the people in this field can't get there fat heads in the ambulance. You know I walk by everyone in this job and say hello. I don't care what uniform you are wearing. I have worked at a few garages, and I still treat everyone with respect. My father had a saying, treat everyone with respect until they disrespect you. Don't we all have enough problems to deal with. Medicaid, bosses, administrators. If you have something to say about one specific person go right ahead. But DO NOT lump us all in the same category. How about we all just cut the crap and give each other the professional courtesy that we all deserve. Anyone that knows me will tell you that I am about as far from an egomaniac as you can get. All I ask for is a little respect, I work just as hard as you do, I have the same education, YOU are NOT better than me, and I m not better than you. I have actually had the pleasure of working with some Stony Brook people, I like them. Why don't we all just get back to taking care of patients? I think thats a good idea. Until then, don't believe any of the rumors. We are not getting a helicopter, we are not taking over EMS all over the Island. I have been in EMS for 11 years, you know what I do. Believe it when you SEE it. Thanks for your time.

Anthony Guerne NREMT-P

goodjob
09-14-2004, 11:01 PM
Hey Tony,
Very well said. We are ALL in this together, out there doing the same thing just wearing different uniforms, and some of us making less money! (kidding) But, it don't matter. North Shore has "DooDaDoos", Hunter, Lifestar, MIH, everywhere. For every one good medic or EMT there are 5 more idiots in this business. Tombstone T waves or head bleed. PICU, NICU, vent WHATEVER, we all do the same thing and we should all respect each other. As per New York State we are the same. Let me tell you something, if I were in my personal vehicle and you were stopped on the side of the road helping someone.... I would NOT pull over cause i'm off the clock. LOL, seriously guys we are all one and the same. We are burnt out, cynical, sarcastic, BASTARDS but we LOVE what we do, and we cant imagine do ANYTHING else with our lives. We want to, but we know deep down we wont. so the point is... there is NO POINT. This whole argument is stupid. We save lives people, how about we band together and try saving ourselves?

just a medic
09-15-2004, 03:30 PM
very well put man .......

OhBoy
10-17-2004, 01:45 AM
Word on the street is, North Shore is being audited and investigated for fraud... anyone know?

NS
10-18-2004, 01:48 PM
Let me guess.....your a Stonybrook medic

Fraud
10-19-2004, 10:56 AM
no, but i dont hear a denial so it's true?

NSUHEMT
10-20-2004, 10:21 AM
I have heard the same thing as you but i have NOT heard it as far as the Ambulance Dept

Just a word
10-22-2004, 11:10 AM
All health institutions go through a medicare/medicaid audits. Nothing new there, it just may be North Shores turn....

thatsbecause
10-23-2004, 07:19 PM
heard its more serious than that

zzz
10-24-2004, 02:44 PM
the north shore health system has lost it's affiliation contract with southampton hospital. ny presby will take it as of 01/01/05. evidently NS didn't do what they were supposed to do and the competition prevailed. or so says the newspapers. should be seeing those blue, orange and white buses out there soon enough!

hehheh
10-24-2004, 03:10 PM
that will happen when your 3 hours late for discharges! they bit off more than they could chew!

Medic
10-24-2004, 04:57 PM
NY Pres is one of the biggest hospitals in NYC. I seriously doubt they went into this not sure what they were going to do. I am sure they already have a good idea as to what is going to happen. I will tell you this much, nice to see a little competition out here. Not that there is anything wrong with NSLIJ system, just nice to see someone else stepping up. Keeps some variety out here. It isn't like there is much choice to begin with. Everyone be safe.

NSEMT
11-15-2004, 01:05 AM
Its funny that NY Pres "Took over" Southampton EMS service. Then why are we still doing transports out of that hospital?? why? huh why?? We will be the biggest ambulance service in the WORLD!!! The kings of EMS!!!!

Maybe
11-15-2004, 10:35 AM
Unless someone throws a monopolizing suit against them. It happened in a couple places I know of, and it could happen here to. Watch out, never want to get too big, someone could complain. Be Safe......
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emt cc
11-15-2004, 04:07 PM
ARE YOU SURE

EMT
11-16-2004, 12:13 PM
I heard that Stony Brook got the deal as of 1/1/05, not NYP. any truth to that?

JasonL
12-07-2004, 09:24 PM
is this here?

suprised555
12-16-2004, 06:25 AM
I guess with Columbia merging with Southampton and Stony Brook merging with Central Suffolk we will no longer see North Shore in Suffolk (except for the Islip area). The bigger they are the harder they fall.
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nsuh
12-16-2004, 10:07 AM
see if presby has ambulances out east starting 1/1/05,,,,,they have no operating license for the island.

AAA
12-16-2004, 12:00 PM
You may not see them on that actual day. An affiliation means that the medicall staff/medical school students, residents may see patients out there. Also that means that the hospital can have more competitive pricing for bulk supplies, medical equipment, etc. It will be a matter of time before they begin transferring people out. They can use the operating license they have already to do interfacility transfers. They already go around the tri-state area. Whether or not they do any 911 is another story. They just started more 911 trucks in Brooklyn, so they might not be ready to roll out another program immediately. We know NS is a big system, so you can put it back in your pants. Thank you.

nsuh
12-16-2004, 01:44 PM
They do not have a license that lets them operate interfacility on the island....and if you like,,,,instead of putting it back in my pants,,,,i will stick it in your A$$.

AAA
12-16-2004, 03:41 PM
very nice reply. while my parting comments may have been somewhat unprofessional, yours is just plain infantile. in fact i don't care what ns or nyp does. i don't work there so it makes no difference to me. i have a good job. my point is that everyone brags about their individual shops. everyone is the greatest, biggest, whatever. who cares. bottom line: nyp is affiliated with southampton as of 1/1/05. ns is not. whatever happens will.

cheers.

nsuh
12-16-2004, 07:02 PM
if you do not have any affiliation with either origanization you should not have any comment on either professional department. you just seem to be a @#%$ stirrer like the rest of the people on this site. if i was unprofessional on anything i stated on this site, i apologize for anything that i stated that was unprofessonal, however i feel i was provoked by the unnecessary comments by AAA. If you would like to discuss anything in person (which i doubt) please contact NSUH EMS @516-719-5050 and ask for the tour commander or supervisor in charge for the day.

EMT
12-16-2004, 07:46 PM
boy oh boy were you unprofessional!!

Provoked or not you are the only one responsible for the words you say (or write). Thank for the apology. I've rarely heard such an insincere apology.

Really
12-16-2004, 08:18 PM
are you sure you are not AAA looking for a way out of looking like an moron??
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AAA
12-16-2004, 08:43 PM
while i do not have a direct affiliation with either organization, i am directly affiliated with the industry. the nyp-southampton affiliation was public knowledge. it was in the paper, as well as industry publications such as crains health ny. in fact there were already discussions on this thread before i came here. i was simply commenting on what was already going on. i have served this industry for almost 14 years and have been happy doing it. in that time i've seen people and services come and go. i have no favorites other than the one i work for. however, i do care for the industry and it's future. i don't want strife among services. what is the point of that? we can't progress if that goes on. let's move on...

cheers

illgiveit
12-18-2004, 06:34 PM
i give those North Shore peeps alot of credit. yeah, SOME of them are stuck up but most of them are cool. Those guys in a 10 hour shift willl do 13 calls. Staying 2-3 hours over is not unusual. Most Lifestar, amr, blah blah employees would die at the call volume they do. Just remember we all do the same job!

suprised555
12-22-2004, 08:32 PM
Heard NSUH is no longer at any of the three hospitals in eastern suffolk. Is this true??

If so, did anyone lose their job?
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re:east end
12-23-2004, 06:05 AM
Yes I just read the agreement between Central Suffolk and SUNY. It seems strange that they are going to share expenses and not create an administrative board to oversee the partnership. So I guess SUNY will post a truck at Central Suffolk once again. As for the transports out of Southampton i believe AMR is contracted with NYP for all the transports in the city, so they will post a truck at Southampton.

AMR Really
12-24-2004, 08:04 AM
I thought AMR was still prohibited from operating in the areas in question. Did that change?

ProEMT
12-24-2004, 10:30 AM
Any ambulance service can pick up anywhere if they transport into their license area, or transport anywhere if they pick up in their license area.

Hmmm
12-25-2004, 09:54 AM
i wouldnt let AMR pick up my dog
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EMT 033
01-05-2005, 03:20 AM
Heard North Shore pulled out of Suffolk County. Is this true? No longer at Central Suffolk. No longer at Eastern Long Island. No longer at Southampton. Pulling out of their first responder in Islip unless the Islip department come up with the $$$$ to pay for the service.

nslij
01-05-2005, 10:20 AM
They still are covering ELI, The health system no longer has an affiliation with Central Suffolk or Southampton hosptials. As for the IFR Medics, there is no truth to that unless you talk to ProEMT who has all the connections in North Shore and in Islip.

ProEMT
01-05-2005, 11:51 AM
Look at you nslij, stirring the pot again. it is public knlowedge and part of the public record for the IFR medic program having an out in 2006. The field personel may say one thing, but the administration has another plan. Usually the way things works, the people who are in charge don't bothertelling the peons what is really going on.

nslij
01-05-2005, 12:01 PM
Thank you for that info Proemt, now can you please tell me where i can get a copy of this so-called public record that states this. Thank you for your time and im looking forward to hearing from you.

ProEMT
01-05-2005, 12:44 PM
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Page 1
DLG-9891


UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
EASTERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
-------------------------------------X

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
Civil Case No.
Plaintiff,
-against-
VERIFIED COMPLAINT

LONG ISLAND JEWISH MEDICAL CENTER and
NORTH SHORE HEALTH SYSTEM, INC.,

Defendants.


This is the case that started it all. It is viewable on the DOJ website. It is hard to believe that NSLIJ EMS does not mention this in their press releases regarding the IFR medics. The information is available to those who wish to really find out. For those of you (nslij) who only wish to stir the pot with your claims of lack of knowledge on everyone elses posts ( never supported yours with documentation), or just plain childish insults and vulgarity instead of an insightful and intelligent difference of oponions, remember, it is always easy to hide ib a forum and not even register to allow for a private message ti discuss differences instead of shooting off your mouth in public and hiding.

ProEMT
01-08-2005, 10:59 AM
Where is your answer to nslij?

SCPD PATROL3
01-08-2005, 11:07 AM
I really hope that the first response units (paramedics) stay on. It has been a very valuable program and is well worth it. Response times being what they are (and I'm certainly not blaming FD/Rescue Corps) the paramedics greatly assist us and most importantly the patients. Drugs can be administered as well as other life saving treatments that we and EMT's cannot provide.

I hope that our Department can lobby for the extension of this program. Maybe local legislators can also be lobbied to help preserve the program.

ProEMT
01-08-2005, 04:31 PM
Yes SCPD, I agree with you that it is a valuable program. But instead of the PD trying to continue it, what about helping solve the problem, I think that most patrol officers would agree that knowing a staffed ambulance is responding within2 minutes is much better that getting the IFR medic and waiting for a truck for who knows how long.
I believe that getting control of the system and fixing the shortcomings should be the county and REMSCO's first priority. It will only happen when REMSCO and more importantly the politicans fell the pressure from the public and all others involved.

nslij
01-08-2005, 04:39 PM
proemt,

thanks for the site!! i have reviewed it and it does not state anywhere in there that after the year 2006 that we have to immediately stop having the IFR medics in islip. This is a great asset to the taxpayers of islip (im sure you would agree) that NSLIJ is not going to take away from them. I believe in the future you will see more hospitals (not just north shore) putting flycar medics out of their hospitals to help the public. (possibly UHSB out of central suffolk to help out the eastend). If these other hospitals do, i wish them the best of luck. Proemt, i guess we will just have to wait another year to see what happens with the medics. Have a good day!!

ProEMT
01-08-2005, 04:55 PM
Well, I guess we will have to wait a year and see what the NSLIJ trucks are up too. The site I posted was from the DOJ, and it was just the filing of the original lawsuit. There was no mention of the settlement from that site. If you remember, the settlement was sealed when released, so its not posted. As far as the east end goes, SUNY has no plans to introduce medic fly cars, and their agreement with central suffolk is within the hospitals only, and isn't even a real affiliation, it is more of a perferred agreement. I do know that the town of southampton is looking into putting medic first responders into the town, but they are still working out the details.

Time Will Tell Again
01-08-2005, 10:32 PM
Time will tell but the Central Suffolk Stony Brook agreement is an affiliation. As announced, Stony Brook will be putting a cardiac cath lab in Central Suffolk, run by Stony Brook. Stony Brook has taken over the ambulance service that NSLIJ provided and as per the press releases first responder vehicles will be offered to the EMS community in the Central Suffolk area at some point in time.

The NSLIJ first responder in Islip were put there because when LIJ merged with NS the dept of justice was concerned about a monopoly. NSLIJ claimed that this merger would save $50 million which they would funnel back into the community over 10 years. they could and are putting this funding back in many ways. There was no requirement of how to spend it but NSLIJ chose to spend SOME of it with the first responder program. They are using the funds for other purposes as well.

Read the Facts
01-08-2005, 10:39 PM
From the Central Suffolk Hospital web page


STONY BROOK AND RIVERHEAD, NY, DECEMBER 15, 2004 ---- Stony Brook University Hospital and Central Suffolk Hospital in Riverhead today announced the formation of a new, comprehensive alliance designed to expand critical health care services in eastern Suffolk County. Known as the University Hospital Alliance (UHA), the agreement is the first affiliation between a SUNY teaching hospital and a community hospital.

“The goal is to increase the breadth and quality of health care provided by Central Suffolk Hospital (CSH) to its community and the East End using the scope of Stony Brook’s (SBUH) programs and services,” said Bruce Schroffel, Director and CEO of Stony Brook and Andrew Mitchell, President and CEO of Central Suffolk in a joint statement. “It is designed to increase access to advanced health care and enhance the quality of that care for the region.”




From the Stony Brook Web Site (note the reference to ambulance and first responders)


From the CEO
Bruce Schroffel
Director and Chief Executive Officer
Stony Brook University Hospital

December 15, 2004

Special Edition



I am pleased to announce a major development in the history of Stony Brook University Hospital. Today, we are announcing a far-reaching affiliation with Central Suffolk Hospital in Riverhead. It helps us fulfill our mission of community service and patient care as Long Island's only academic medical center. This is the first time in the history of SUNY hospitals that an agreement of this type will be implemented.

The goal of the new alliance is to increase the breadth and quality of care provided by Central Suffolk Hospital (CSH) to the community they serve as well as to the East End of Long Island, using the scope of our programs and services.

Our investment of medical, educational and corporate expertise in CSH helps further our academic mission and the alliance; it is an investment in the community health of Suffolk County. We will be providing support for their clinical infrastructure and facilities related to joint clinical programs to make this successful.

This alliance will also serve as the foundation for an academic affiliation for Central Suffolk with our Schools of Medicine, Dental Medicine, Nursing, Social Welfare, and Health Technology and Management, and will help both hospitals recruit and retain well-trained health professionals. It will help enhance CSH's vital role in eastern Suffolk. Both medical staffs will work together to accomplish the missions of the alliance and the hospitals. There will be no change in governance of either hospital.

Four major components form the core of the affiliation. Clinical affiliations will be established, beginning with the creation of a cardiac catheterization laboratory at CSH staffed by us, expansion of the Family Medicine services already in operation there, Emergency Medicine upgrades, and expansion of the ambulance and first responders system.

Academic affiliations will include co-sponsorship of educational offerings, continuing medical education (CME) opportunities, and development of clinical research and residency programs at CSH.

Further, a Managed Care Contracting Joint Venture will offer third party payers a new array of comprehensive, integrated and high quality health care services not currently available in eastern Suffolk.

Administrative and corporate partnerships will include quality and continuous quality improvement projects, supply procurement and management, and other administrative services.

We are grateful to State Senators Kenneth P. LaValle and John F. Flanagan for their assistance in creating and passing "Flexibility" legislation allowing this type of alliance to be formed by a state hospital with a community hospital.

We are looking forward to developing this relationship in a realistic, efficient and effective manner. It is a significant step for the future, but it begins now. I look forward to your cooperation and input as we go forth in improving access to care and the health of the community.

PRO EMT ?
01-08-2005, 10:40 PM
I guess that these posts clearly show that PRO EMT doesn't know what he is talking about.

Pro EMT?
01-09-2005, 07:59 PM
What do you think.

ProEMT
01-09-2005, 08:16 PM
Well as I've posted to NSLIJ, talk is cheap, we will see if SUNY really does anything with first responders and ambulances since there is no monetary incentive for SUNY to do so. Where is the detail? Haven't we gotten enough hot air from hospitals promising EMS everything?

Pro emt 2
01-10-2005, 12:27 AM
You are right, time will tell. The "official" statements from the hospitals seem to indicate an increased ambulance presence by SBUH at Central Suffolk. They have stationed an ambulance there for years and I just heard they will soon add more ambulances to the Central Suffolk area.

The first responder piece is probably 6 months down the road, at least.

Mikecp421
01-10-2005, 02:16 AM
maybe they can send someone inside to answer the radio nicely and welcome ambulances there instead of being annoyed that they are coming there.

02-16-2005, 05:00 PM
Dont you like fudgecicles too??

02-16-2005, 05:11 PM
creamcicles

HOTTIE
02-26-2005, 12:57 AM
CRAIG SMITH IS A HOTTIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOTTIE2
02-26-2005, 04:26 AM
DOES ANYONE KNOW CRAIG?

HOTTIE3
02-27-2005, 01:32 AM
CRAIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOTTIE4
02-27-2005, 06:03 AM
Craig Smith is awsome................

HOTTIE 3
02-27-2005, 07:57 PM
HOTTIE 4,DO YOU KNOW CRAIG?

HOTTIE4
02-28-2005, 08:47 PM
yup

HOTTIE3
03-01-2005, 12:13 AM
HOTTIE 4, HOW DO YOU KNOW HIM? WORK?

HOTTIE4
03-02-2005, 11:40 PM
Yeah...whos asking?

UhuhOhOh
03-03-2005, 04:06 AM
Um, i hope your a guy who thinks craig is a hottie...He's on the OTHER side of the fence....

UhOhOhOH
03-03-2005, 04:06 AM
not that theres anything wrong with that :wink:

HOTTIE4
03-04-2005, 08:46 PM
UHOH .... YES, IM A GUY ... SO TAKE IT FROM THERE

HOTTIE3, I WONT WANT TO GIVE MY NAME OVER THE BOARD ... IT COULD CAUSE TOO MUCH DRAMA ... BUT ACTUALLY, WAS JUST WONDERING IF CRAIG IS STILL AROUND ... HAVENT SEEN HIM IN A WHILE

03-06-2005, 06:42 PM
WOW, THIS DUDE CRAIG IS POPULAR HEH?¿

03-06-2005, 06:51 PM
He works inside now and I also think he moved out east somewhere.

03-06-2005, 09:04 PM
where inside ... Medcomm?

03-07-2005, 01:56 AM
who is this guy Craig?

Lets Go Paid
03-07-2005, 12:03 PM
Putting North Shore medics in every town, finally some people who know how to deliver EMS helping us to: GO PAID

emt76
03-09-2005, 10:31 PM
Why are all the fat ones sluts over here? Got a few names for ya.

HOTTIE3
03-10-2005, 12:00 AM
emt 76? whats that about?

03-10-2005, 01:32 AM
emt 76? whats that about? Why cant i name my list? and emt 76- lets see 00 born 76 and emt... '

03-11-2005, 12:55 AM
i was referring to your subject....

03-11-2005, 02:23 PM
i was referring to your subject....My b/f works there. At all company functions i have been to with him, most of the fat girls drink too much and flirt with any thing of the male species. It's disturbing that the females there need to get attention by throwing themselves at taken men. They need to stop!!! The guys do nothing but make fun of them behind there backs. It's sad really

03-11-2005, 02:27 PM
i was referring to your subject....My b/f works there. At all company functions i have been to with him, most of the fat girls drink too much and flirt with any thing of the male species. It's disturbing that the females there need to get attention by throwing themselves at taken men. They need to stop!!! The guys do nothing but make fun of them behind there backs. It's sad really

they really have you fooled dont they. The guys only make fun of them when you are around. When you are not there they are having fun WITH them and getting everything they want.

The funny part is that the wives/gf think their spouse/bf dont do anything.

03-11-2005, 03:29 PM
i was referring to your subject....My b/f works there. At all company functions i have been to with him, most of the fat girls drink too much and flirt with any thing of the male species. It's disturbing that the females there need to get attention by throwing themselves at taken men. They need to stop!!! The guys do nothing but make fun of them behind there backs. It's sad really

they really have you fooled dont they. The guys only make fun of them when you are around. When you are not there they are having fun WITH them and getting everything they want.

The funny part is that the wives/gf think their spouse/bf dont do anything. My assumption is you are one of the whores. And he is always with me and we live together and recently got engaged. So i doubt he would put his job in jeopardy to do that. He loves it too much. And all the schooling to be a par. So unless you feel like disclosing your name OR if you are sleeping with someone elses man, don't write back sweethart.

TruthFINDER!
03-11-2005, 03:32 PM
i was referring to your subject....My b/f works there. At all company functions i have been to with him, most of the fat girls drink too much and flirt with any thing of the male species. It's disturbing that the females there need to get attention by throwing themselves at taken men. They need to stop!!! The guys do nothing but make fun of them behind there backs. It's sad really

they really have you fooled dont they. The guys only make fun of them when you are around. When you are not there they are having fun WITH them and getting everything they want.

The funny part is that the wives/gf think their spouse/bf dont do anything. My assumption is you are one of the whores. And he is always with me and we live together and recently got engaged. So i doubt he would put his job in jeopardy to do that. He loves it too much. And all the schooling to be a par. So unless you feel like disclosing your name OR if you are sleeping with someone elses man, don't write back sweethart. WOW I GUESS THE 2ND CHICK IS FAT

03-11-2005, 03:34 PM
i was referring to your subject....My b/f works there. At all company functions i have been to with him, most of the fat girls drink too much and flirt with any thing of the male species. It's disturbing that the females there need to get attention by throwing themselves at taken men. They need to stop!!! The guys do nothing but make fun of them behind there backs. It's sad really

they really have you fooled dont they. The guys only make fun of them when you are around. When you are not there they are having fun WITH them and getting everything they want.

The funny part is that the wives/gf think their spouse/bf dont do anything. My assumption is you are one of the whores. And he is always with me and we live together and recently got engaged. So i doubt he would put his job in jeopardy to do that. He loves it too much. And all the schooling to be a par. So unless you feel like disclosing your name OR if you are sleeping with someone elses man, don't write back sweethart.

Sorry hun but you are completly misguided if you think he is not doing someone else behind your back - plenty of time for him to get a quickie and you would never know - keep living in your little dream world that you are good enough for him - lol

03-11-2005, 03:41 PM
i was referring to your subject....My b/f works there. At all company functions i have been to with him, most of the fat girls drink too much and flirt with any thing of the male species. It's disturbing that the females there need to get attention by throwing themselves at taken men. They need to stop!!! The guys do nothing but make fun of them behind there backs. It's sad really

they really have you fooled dont they. The guys only make fun of them when you are around. When you are not there they are having fun WITH them and getting everything they want.

The funny part is that the wives/gf think their spouse/bf dont do anything. My assumption is you are one of the whores. And he is always with me and we live together and recently got engaged. So i doubt he would put his job in jeopardy to do that. He loves it too much. And all the schooling to be a par. So unless you feel like disclosing your name OR if you are sleeping with someone elses man, don't write back sweethart.

Sorry hun but you are completly misguided if you think he is not doing someone else behind your back - plenty of time for him to get a quickie and you would never know - keep living in your little dream world that you are good enough for him - lol So i guess you have been burned yourself. I probably have met you before. You are the sad one. I trust my man. I just find it sad that the moral (you for example) of the women are so low. what are you five dollars. Or fiive cents. My point was proven!

03-11-2005, 03:43 PM
i was referring to your subject....My b/f works there. At all company functions i have been to with him, most of the fat girls drink too much and flirt with any thing of the male species. It's disturbing that the females there need to get attention by throwing themselves at taken men. They need to stop!!! The guys do nothing but make fun of them behind there backs. It's sad really

they really have you fooled dont they. The guys only make fun of them when you are around. When you are not there they are having fun WITH them and getting everything they want.

The funny part is that the wives/gf think their spouse/bf dont do anything. My assumption is you are one of the whores. And he is always with me and we live together and recently got engaged. So i doubt he would put his job in jeopardy to do that. He loves it too much. And all the schooling to be a par. So unless you feel like disclosing your name OR if you are sleeping with someone elses man, don't write back sweethart.

Sorry hun but you are completly misguided if you think he is not doing someone else behind your back - plenty of time for him to get a quickie and you would never know - keep living in your little dream world that you are good enough for him - lol So i guess you have been burned yourself. I probably have met you before. You are the sad one. I trust my man. I just find it sad that the moral (you for example) of the women are so low. what are you five dollars. Or fiive cents. My point was proven!P.S LOve to stay and chat but he will be home soon and i have to go to school. Bye bye fatty.

03-11-2005, 03:50 PM
i was referring to your subject....My b/f works there. At all company functions i have been to with him, most of the fat girls drink too much and flirt with any thing of the male species. It's disturbing that the females there need to get attention by throwing themselves at taken men. They need to stop!!! The guys do nothing but make fun of them behind there backs. It's sad really

they really have you fooled dont they. The guys only make fun of them when you are around. When you are not there they are having fun WITH them and getting everything they want.

The funny part is that the wives/gf think their spouse/bf dont do anything. My assumption is you are one of the whores. And he is always with me and we live together and recently got engaged. So i doubt he would put his job in jeopardy to do that. He loves it too much. And all the schooling to be a par. So unless you feel like disclosing your name OR if you are sleeping with someone elses man, don't write back sweethart.

Sorry hun but you are completly misguided if you think he is not doing someone else behind your back - plenty of time for him to get a quickie and you would never know - keep living in your little dream world that you are good enough for him - lol So i guess you have been burned yourself. I probably have met you before. You are the sad one. I trust my man. I just find it sad that the moral (you for example) of the women are so low. what are you five dollars. Or fiive cents. My point was proven!P.S LOve to stay and chat but he will be home soon and i have to go to school. Bye bye fatty.


Have fun at school while we here have fun with you fiancee

03-11-2005, 03:54 PM
i was referring to your subject....My b/f works there. At all company functions i have been to with him, most of the fat girls drink too much and flirt with any thing of the male species. It's disturbing that the females there need to get attention by throwing themselves at taken men. They need to stop!!! The guys do nothing but make fun of them behind there backs. It's sad really

they really have you fooled dont they. The guys only make fun of them when you are around. When you are not there they are having fun WITH them and getting everything they want.

The funny part is that the wives/gf think their spouse/bf dont do anything. My assumption is you are one of the whores. And he is always with me and we live together and recently got engaged. So i doubt he would put his job in jeopardy to do that. He loves it too much. And all the schooling to be a par. So unless you feel like disclosing your name OR if you are sleeping with someone elses man, don't write back sweethart.

Sorry hun but you are completly misguided if you think he is not doing someone else behind your back - plenty of time for him to get a quickie and you would never know - keep living in your little dream world that you are good enough for him - lol So i guess you have been burned yourself. I probably have met you before. You are the sad one. I trust my man. I just find it sad that the moral (you for example) of the women are so low. what are you five dollars. Or fiive cents. My point was proven!P.S LOve to stay and chat but he will be home soon and i have to go to school. Bye bye fatty.


Have fun at school while we here have fun with you fiancee If you were at jillians- i know who you are! But again there are so many of you. Call the center of disease control

03-11-2005, 03:58 PM
i was referring to your subject....My b/f works there. At all company functions i have been to with him, most of the fat girls drink too much and flirt with any thing of the male species. It's disturbing that the females there need to get attention by throwing themselves at taken men. They need to stop!!! The guys do nothing but make fun of them behind there backs. It's sad really

they really have you fooled dont they. The guys only make fun of them when you are around. When you are not there they are having fun WITH them and getting everything they want.

The funny part is that the wives/gf think their spouse/bf dont do anything. My assumption is you are one of the whores. And he is always with me and we live together and recently got engaged. So i doubt he would put his job in jeopardy to do that. He loves it too much. And all the schooling to be a par. So unless you feel like disclosing your name OR if you are sleeping with someone elses man, don't write back sweethart.

Sorry hun but you are completly misguided if you think he is not doing someone else behind your back - plenty of time for him to get a quickie and you would never know - keep living in your little dream world that you are good enough for him - lol So i guess you have been burned yourself. I probably have met you before. You are the sad one. I trust my man. I just find it sad that the moral (you for example) of the women are so low. what are you five dollars. Or fiive cents. My point was proven!P.S LOve to stay and chat but he will be home soon and i have to go to school. Bye bye fatty.


Have fun at school while we here have fun with you fiancee If you were at jillians- i know who you are! But again there are so many of you. Call the center of disease control

I am glad you think you know who I am but it will keep you guessing. Dont worry I'll take good care of him

Guest30
03-11-2005, 04:50 PM
Are you F'ing kidding me. Take it off the bulletin board. You both sound pathetic and are embarassing yourselves and the good people who work at NS everyday. Get a clue, both of you.

03-11-2005, 07:37 PM
i was referring to your subject....My b/f works there. At all company functions i have been to with him, most of the fat girls drink too much and flirt with any thing of the male species. It's disturbing that the females there need to get attention by throwing themselves at taken men. They need to stop!!! The guys do nothing but make fun of them behind there backs. It's sad really

they really have you fooled dont they. The guys only make fun of them when you are around. When you are not there they are having fun WITH them and getting everything they want.

The funny part is that the wives/gf think their spouse/bf dont do anything. My assumption is you are one of the whores. And he is always with me and we live together and recently got engaged. So i doubt he would put his job in jeopardy to do that. He loves it too much. And all the schooling to be a par. So unless you feel like disclosing your name OR if you are sleeping with someone elses man, don't write back sweethart.

Sorry hun but you are completly misguided if you think he is not doing someone else behind your back - plenty of time for him to get a quickie and you would never know - keep living in your little dream world that you are good enough for him - lol So i guess you have been burned yourself. I probably have met you before. You are the sad one. I trust my man. I just find it sad that the moral (you for example) of the women are so low. what are you five dollars. Or fiive cents. My point was proven!P.S LOve to stay and chat but he will be home soon and i have to go to school. Bye bye fatty.


Have fun at school while we here have fun with you fiancee If you were at jillians- i know who you are! But again there are so many of you. Call the center of disease control

Just remember there sweety the next time he comes home tired from work - we gave him a good workout.

03-12-2005, 02:24 AM
Do all the guys at the North shore EMS cheat??

03-12-2005, 12:14 PM
Do all the guys at the North shore EMS cheat??

Yes most of it do and we love them for it

03-13-2005, 10:46 PM
how many of the guys are gay?

03-14-2005, 02:29 PM
how many of the guys are gay?

Cant venture to guess on that one

03-14-2005, 03:37 PM
Only one that I know of...

03-14-2005, 03:55 PM
Only one that I know of...

Do they go both ways?

03-14-2005, 07:54 PM
So where is the jealous girlfriend today?

We missed her ranting and raving

03-14-2005, 10:31 PM
please ... there are atleast 4 queers in this dept

03-15-2005, 02:45 AM
bump

03-15-2005, 02:23 PM
so who are the 4?

03-15-2005, 06:44 PM
so who are the 4?

Who knows

03-16-2005, 03:41 AM
So where is the jealous girlfriend today?

We missed her ranting and raving im always watching

03-16-2005, 01:42 PM
So where is the jealous girlfriend today?

We missed her ranting and raving im always watching

Keep watching and we will keep your fiancee smiling

03-17-2005, 01:46 AM
So where is the jealous girlfriend today?

We missed her ranting and raving im always watching

Keep watching and we will keep your fiancee smilingcenter of disease control......

03-17-2005, 11:45 AM
:lol:

03-17-2005, 12:09 PM
So where is the jealous girlfriend today?

We missed her ranting and raving im always watching

Keep watching and we will keep your fiancee smilingcenter of disease control......

Yeah you better get yourself checked -

03-18-2005, 03:32 AM
8)

fiance
03-19-2005, 05:51 PM
I'm guessing that there are some of you with pride. i would suggest figuring out who the broken chick is. And quarentine her.

Guest0
03-23-2005, 01:24 PM
:oops:

03-26-2005, 12:01 AM
Still in business??

03-29-2005, 05:26 PM
I'm guessing that there are some of you with pride. i would suggest figuring out who the broken chick is. And quarentine her.

Just ask your fiancee as he likes getting it

03-29-2005, 08:52 PM
[quote=fiance]I'm guessing that there are some of you with pride. i would suggest figuring out who the broken chick is. And quarentine her.

Just ask your fiancee as he likes getting it[/quote ALL OF YOU PEOPLE ARE ACTING LIKE CHILDREN. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING INTELLIGENT--- i am waiting?

03-30-2005, 04:37 PM
bump

03-30-2005, 05:14 PM
I'm guessing that there are some of you with pride. i would vollies suck suggest figuring out who the broken chick is. And quarentine her.

Just ask your fiancee as he likes getting it

This board is the funniest. Seems like that guy is two-timing his girlfriend pretty good.

03-30-2005, 05:26 PM
I'm guessing that there are some of you with pride. i would suggest figuring out who the broken chick is. And quarentine her.

Just ask your fiancee as he likes getting it

This board is the funniest. Seems like that guy is two-timing his girlfriend pretty good.

She probably has no clue he is doing another person

03-30-2005, 06:30 PM
I'm guessing that there are some of you with pride. i would suggest figuring out who the broken chick is. And quarentine her.

Just ask your fiancee as he likes getting it

This board is the funniest. Seems like that guy is two-timing his girlfriend pretty good.

Probably because the person he is getting at work is better than she is

She probably has no clue he is doing another person

03-30-2005, 06:30 PM
I'm guessing that there are some of you with pride. i would suggest figuring out who the broken chick is. And quarentine her.

Just ask your fiancee as he likes getting it

This board is the funniest. Seems like that guy is two-timing his girlfriend pretty good.

She probably has no clue he is doing another person

Probably because the person he is getting at work is better than she is

03-30-2005, 08:06 PM
I'm guessing that there are some of you with pride. i would suggest figuring out who the broken chick is. And quarentine her.

Just ask your fiancee as he likes getting it

This board is the funniest. Seems like that guy is two-timing his girlfriend pretty good.

She probably has no clue he is doing another person

Probably because the person he is getting at work is better than she is

good one

03-30-2005, 09:31 PM
I'm guessing that there are some of you with pride. i would suggest figuring out who the broken chick is. And quarentine her.

Just ask your fiancee as he likes getting it

This board is the funniest. Seems like that guy is two-timing his girlfriend pretty good.

She probably has no clue he is doing another person

Probably because the person he is getting at work is better than she is So whos doing who... If you had any balls at all you would say it

good one

guest 4
03-30-2005, 11:31 PM
:lol:

palease
03-30-2005, 11:44 PM
I hope your not doing it in the back of the amblance cuz that is just too nasty. Nasty, nasty gross.

03-31-2005, 12:30 AM
?????

DeadBoard
04-04-2005, 02:01 AM
No action here for a while

Ohhh Craigy boy ... where are you?!?!?!

04-04-2005, 03:09 AM
Who cares - get a life

04-04-2005, 07:52 PM
The action has been just fine thank you

06-13-2005, 07:54 PM
:o

keeping him busy
06-14-2005, 02:51 PM
:lol:

Keeping her busy
06-14-2005, 11:38 PM
:o

pepe917
06-14-2005, 11:50 PM
:lol:'
:lol:
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07-11-2005, 06:51 PM
:wink:

Guess the fiancee hasn't stopped around lately - guess she didn't keep her boyfriend

07-20-2005, 03:11 AM
what happened to an Islip Medic??? Good Job MD

07-24-2005, 04:08 PM
:o

guest22
07-31-2005, 02:49 AM
I am a former employee and am wondering who is in charge of the mess they call an ambulance service. I heard that several of the bosses friends are being made supervisors. Please keep all of us who left NS up on the gossip?

06-21-2006, 02:21 PM
word on the street is North Shore will be phasing out there ambulance company by 2006...any truth to this?

06-22-2006, 05:58 PM
word on the street is North Shore will be phasing out there ambulance company by 2006...any truth to this?

None to this rumor

Unregistered666
09-06-2007, 03:03 AM
666

upsidedown
09-07-2007, 12:18 AM
999

Unregistered55444554
09-20-2007, 01:52 AM
how do u get a job at north shore ambulance? Who do you have to talk to?

nshpm1
09-22-2007, 03:43 PM
The ambulance ops division run out of Syosset Hospital on Jericho Turnpike.

noone1
10-17-2007, 06:22 PM
anyone know tommy mccarthy?

Unregistered 414
10-20-2007, 03:53 AM
yeah, why. He's in the No. Shore Medic class right now. He never shuts the fuck up

tommccarthy
10-24-2007, 03:26 PM
yeah, why. He's in the No. Shore Medic class right now. He never shuts the fuck up

no balls!!!! put your name on the post........oh yea i do talk alot.

FBH
11-05-2007, 08:04 PM
Is Tom McCarthy the one who was caught with the male nurse?

???????who
11-06-2007, 10:14 PM
how is that dead beat dad

Deadbeatdadtom
11-07-2007, 11:03 PM
No balls again.......put your name!!! oh yea your afraid of me so you wont. have a good day.

Unregistered 414
11-08-2007, 01:39 PM
How many illegitimate kids does he have? He bangs everyone he works with.

Unregistered 1723
11-08-2007, 06:38 PM
cant even get his wife knocked up the right way. no wonder he gets around

Unregistered 414
11-13-2007, 02:56 PM
hes a loud mouth who deserves what he gets

Unregistered 1723
11-19-2007, 04:40 PM
you should see wifey with him. if she is that oblivious- wait, no one can be that oblivious. does she really think he is not banging around ????????????????????

Former EMS
11-19-2007, 08:53 PM
The nurses are pretty hot there

Unregistered 414
11-20-2007, 02:26 AM
The nurses are pretty hot there

so is his wife. damn ide bang her till she forgot who he is.

???????who
11-20-2007, 07:23 PM
I've seen her. ide tapp the as*.... she has a slammin body with huge ti*s

1122334455
11-27-2007, 03:05 PM
ewwww

RJTechCC
11-27-2007, 09:27 PM
I am not acquainted with any of the parties involved in the discussion, nor do I know who is the subject of this intellectually deep conversation, however gentlemen, have some respect. There is absolutely no need to involve any one's spouse/girlfriend in this conversation. This is exactly what's wrong with departments these days. You have not an ounce of comradery or respect for each other.

yourMILF
12-01-2007, 12:33 AM
I am not acquainted with any of the parties involved in the discussion, nor do I know who is the subject of this intellectually deep conversation, however gentlemen, have some respect. There is absolutely no need to involve any one's spouse/girlfriend in this conversation. This is exactly what's wrong with departments these days. You have not an ounce of comradery or respect for each other.

I would have respect but after banging your mom and letting your sister suck me clean i kinda lost respect somewhere along the way

Unregisteredoooooooooo
12-24-2007, 04:48 PM
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12-24-2007, 07:29 PM
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Unregistereddumpdriver
01-02-2008, 10:18 AM
Hey Guys I Am Looking For Steve Lambert. He Is A Buddy Of Mine From Pa. I Just Relocated Here . Does He Still Work For You,?? Seen Him Since His Wedding 5 Yrs Ago. Mike Meccia

UnregisteredNCPDEAB
01-02-2008, 11:17 AM
I heard that NS EMS might be taking over 911 for the county EAB? Suozzi's aides have approached them trying to lower the budget in the county by getting rid of NCPD buses....

they are already doing it in NYC queens....

buh bye EAB

Unregistered154378
01-02-2008, 10:05 PM
doubt it would happen, PD uses it for good public relations, would be very suprised

Unregisteredtroll
01-02-2008, 10:16 PM
Keep trolling EAB makes money if Tommy would invest back in EAB it would be more profitable.

Not even close
01-04-2008, 12:31 AM
I heard that NS EMS might be taking over 911 for the county EAB? Suozzi's aides have approached them trying to lower the budget in the county by getting rid of NCPD buses....

they are already doing it in NYC queens....

buh bye EAB



EAB brings in almost $2 million a month. The money goes into the County's general fund. There is no way they would ever get rid of it. It fact, they are adding more ambulance posts.

Unregistered544567
01-05-2008, 10:34 AM
EAB brings in almost $2 million a month. The money goes into the County's general fund. There is no way they would ever get rid of it. It fact, they are adding more ambulance posts.

yeah..and hiring more and more inexperienced techs and more and more minorities and females... good job MORONS

Unregistered??..>>??
01-05-2008, 10:29 PM
yeah..and hiring more and more inexperienced techs and more and more minorities and females... good job MORONS

Yeah dont forget to mention how political the job has become.

Unregisteredhack
01-05-2008, 11:27 PM
You have always needed a "rabbi" to get that gig. If thay followed civil service rules half these hacks woulld not be on the job.

Emt 76
01-22-2008, 01:16 PM
anyone know tommy mccarthy?

He lives west south shore with his wife.

Unregistered33333
01-25-2008, 03:47 PM
Who's that little Jen think she is?

Emt 76
01-28-2008, 02:26 PM
Who's that little Jen think she is?... Ok I'm home from work today, so I'll bite. Who is little Jen?

Firebuff84
01-31-2008, 02:13 AM
yeah, why. He's in the No. Shore Medic class right now. He never shuts the fuck up

I agree with you. He acts like a whiney child. One day someone will shut him up!

EMS123
02-03-2008, 05:32 PM
The EMS is fighting on who gets to take Jennifer Lopez home from the hospital.