Tedesco Concedes - Mondello Claims Impotence

[Roll Up The Bridge]

When are you guys going to get it?

Mondello will always say he had nothing to do with it, that it wasn't his fault, that Congressional Races are outside of the control of local political organizations, you name it, excuse after excuse.

When are you guys going to get it?

The guy is incompetent!

[TRUE WORDS]

Been a Republican all my life. I'm not HAPPY. This guy is a joke. We can't win in Nassau County and he's lost us the State too. It's like living in Massachutts or California. Think I'll reregister to the Conseritive Party. At least they'll give you hope.

[Sedulus]

Also shows you how weak the R team is in Albany. After all, Tedisco was the R assembly leader. Now he's bounced out of that, too. Would think a well-known vet like him would do well in that C.D. Got to hand it to Murphy (as well as Gillibrand). They built up a strong organization + the popularity of President Obama = victory in what should have been a safe R district. What about statewide next year? Even if the Ds remove Paterson, little Cuomo will breeze in.

[Joe Mondello Fan club]

Thanks Joe for your help. Your incompetance just keeps getting better. Soon we will have all the congressional seats and almost all of the state legislative seats in Massachuetts. great work!!!

[Unrepetentant]

Thanks Joe for your help. Your incompetance just keeps getting better. Soon we will have all the congressional seats and almost all of the state legislative seats in Massachuetts. great work!!!

The big question that no one is willing to ask is, "What or who keeps Joe Mondello in power?" Name his supporters publically or detail the steps necessary to remove him and be frank, specific and transparent.

Any more whining like "the committeemen and leaders should vote him out" gets us nowhere and you might as well keep pissing in the wind (or getting pissed on by Mondello).

Any takers?

[Unregistered Rep]

Yes. Are you serious? Here is an answer; Dean Skelos. If change is to happen, then Dean needs to grow a pair.

[Dino Skelos]

Dino is a dinasour. Is it really in the interests of the future of the party to install a man so closely associated with propping up and facilitating the past?

The next GOP chairman ought to be a John Powell type, without the corruption. One sanitation worker (depending of course on the person involved) is worth a room full of Mondellos - who of course is made of Jello!

[Poltergeist4]

It is un believeable that Mondello would lose that seat, with a top quality name-recognition guy running and a 70,000 (yes, that's SEVENTY thousand) Republican enrollment advantage in the district.

Mondello is a joke as a leader.

Of course, the day(s) after the election, Mondello was saying he would win it with all those R absentee ballots outstanding, but then as the tally came in, he distanced himself saying he has no role in a federal election. Give me friggin Break.

Funny, this guy alwyas said he would never be the leader of nothing. But, that is exactly what he's become.

He couldn't win one of those clown water spray games at the carnival if he was the only one playing.

[YR123]

I think its great to have a dialogue about just how much Joe Mondello has done wrong by the party and how we would all be better off with a different leader. However, I have heard this talk for years with not a bit of change and not even a touch of action.

Its easy to sit around the campfire agreeing about how bad someone is for our interested. However, until someone comes up with a clear plan and course of action on how to do it, I am left feeling rather hopeless.

I am a young person who has been involved a bit over the years and I do harbor a desire to eventually run for office or hold a more distinguisheed posiion in the party. There are a few reasons why I am lead to believe this will never be an option for me
1- Mondello is prejudice against younger people in the party and even more so women in the party
2- There is no mentoring or cultivation of younger people in the party to encourage them to run for office in the future
3- The Republican party on LI doesnt tap or utilize the Young Republicans at all. There are some really bright and intelligent people within that group that should be utilized much more
4- Once this guy finally does leave and move on I fear he will have destroyed the Republican's on LI far beyone his repair
5- Its my understanding that he already has three guys deep in mind to takeover when he DOES leave and what's to lead us to believe they wont be the exact same type of leader he is.

I am just so frustrated watching us loose so much ground and essentially loosing control of our local level, the level that truly effects our day to day lives. Is just so disconcerting. . . . .

[Commie Pinko]

The big question that no one is willing to ask is, "What or who keeps Joe Mondello in power?" Name his supporters publically or detail the steps necessary to remove him and be frank, specific and transparent.

Any more whining like "the committeemen and leaders should vote him out" gets us nowhere and you might as well keep pissing in the wind (or getting pissed on by Mondello).

Any takers?


Please answer the question. Who keeps Mondello in power? Who needs to go? Can a small group of forward-thinking Republicans take over an executive area? Run for committee positions next year and run hard?

How does one cashier a leader in the Nassau GOP? What do the by-laws say?

Who can take over the party and appeal to new and core Republicans? Fuschillo? Balboni? DeGrace? Labriola?

Who cares?

[Who Cares?]

That is a very good question....Who Cares?

All it takes is a few petition signatures to run for the commitee position in this September's primary - that is unless there are only two candidates for the slot, then both win automatically.

More than two for one spot and you can expect your petition to be challenged on technicalities by the GOP election law committee.

Hint: - Get a copy of the petition circulated in that district the last time out from the Nassau County Board of Elections, do it now as early as you can. Mike up the district you want in a request for multiple districts from all over the county, and have someone else do it for you- again from somewhere else in the county. Reason being is all requests of this nature get sent to the party HQ - not that they know what to do with it those dumbasses, but they get the info anyway.

Then, get to those houses on the committeemen's list the very first official day to circulate petitions. The GOP committeemen are brainless robots, they collect signatures from the same people over and over and over - following the path of least resistence. Now that you have gotten signatures first, YOU are in the position to disqualify THIER petition! Turn the tables and take over the ED. They will become discombobulated and malfunction all over the place I promise you that.

Then, you can win and start pissing into the wind, because no matter what you do, Joe Mondello he don't care...he's made of Jello!

As to the other freaks you mentioni as possible successors, you must not know that Chuck Fuschillo is Mondello's God Son....He's no change at all - all show, all facade, a Potemkin Village, theres no change there with Chuck. The others are hacks, pure and simple.

So...keep looking, but get your ED! That's the spirit!

[Strider]

Most of what ^^ said is 100% on the mark. But, dude, you need ot give up the Chuckie is Mondello's Godchild thing.

You've repeated that here over and over for years, and it simply is not factually true. You can make the case if you want that Chuckie is in the mold of JNM, that he is a kindered spirit of JNM, if you want, etc. but he is NOT, factually speaking JNM's Godchild.

Just don't keep repeating it. You don't need to say that to make the point.

Peace out.

[Godfather]

Who then is the senator's godfather? This is really important. We also need to know his godmother lest feminists accuse us of sexism.

[Levittown Lion]

Anyone see Fat Joe's photo in Snoozeday? It's so big it fills the whole square!

See what happens when you can't stop stuffing yourself with taxpayer, party and contributor dollars?

[ShutterBug]

Newsday ALWAYS prints the least flattering photo possible of the gargantuan one

It's pretty funny

He's so unattractive

The outer ugliness is but a pale expression of his inner ugliness

[George Marlin]

LONG ISLAND BUSINESS NEWS

Marlin: The sorry state of the NY GOP

Thu, Apr 30, 2009

On March 31, voters in Republican strongholds gave New York GOP boss Joe Mondello two more black eyes. In special elections, the party’s candidate for Brookhaven town supervisor, Tim Mazzei and its nominee for the upstate congressional seat vacated by Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, Jim Tedisco, went down in flames.

It is difficult to fathom such losses: In the post-World War II era, Brookhaven has been the most conservative township in the state - Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan carried it by landslide proportions. In 1970, James L. Buckley, who was elected U.S. Senator solely on the Conservative Party line, received 55 percent of Brookhaven’s vote.

Similarly, the 20th C.D., located in the northeast section of the state, has been rock-rib Republican since the time of Lincoln and today outnumbers Democrats by a staggering 75 thousand.

Why these GOP losses? Years of incompetent and intellectually bankrupt leaders.

It wasn’t always this bad. In 1995, just 14 years ago, thanks to the nuts and bolts organizational efforts of then state chairman, William Powers, Republicans held 14 of the 16 county executive posts, four of the six large city mayoralties, solid control of the state Senate, majorities in 57 of the 62 county legislatures and a Senator. They had also secured their first gubernatorial victory since 1970 and won their first attorney general race since 1974.

It was during the Pataki years that the great GOP decline began. Governor Pataki, a slacker who used his office to enhance his lifestyle, proved to lack a philosophical compass. To retain political power and perks, Pataki’s inner circle drove Bill Powers from office, installed a lackey, Sandy Treadwell, and adopted a “hide your conservatism” and “Democratic Lite” electoral strategy. Running to the left and pandering to special interest groups may have gotten Pataki re-elected in 1998 and 2002 but it had a devastating impact on the Republican Party.

Between 1998 and 2008, on the state and federal level, the GOP managed to lose the office of governor and attorney general, a U.S. Senator, nine congressmen, 12 assemblymen, and their 42-year hold on the state Senate.

Locally, fiscal mismanagement and corruption led to the eviction of Republican county executives in their three major strongholds: Westchester, Nassau and Suffolk counties.

Nassau County’s Joe Mondello, who took over the impotent, enfeebled party after the 2006 rout in which the GOP gubernatorial candidate received only 29 percent of the vote, has failed to improve the party’s standing with the electorate. Under his watch the loss of two senate seats in his Long Island backyard ended Republican hegemony in that body. In a recent interview, former Nassau County GOP congressman, John LeBoutillier, best expressed the view of Mondello held by many in his party: “He’s an incompetent leader of the party in Nassau and in the state. He’s good at keeping his job and getting multiple paychecks while we keep losing elections and losing power.”

The GOP bullpen is so bare that Newt Gingrich, keynote speaker at the April 15th Republican State Dinner, urged political retreads Geor ge Pataki and Rudy Giuliani to run for U.S. Senator and Governor, respectively, in 2010.

George Pataki for Senator? Please. This tax and spend politician who deserted conservative principles and squandered the historic opportunity entrusted to him in 1994, is a political embarrassment.

As for Rudy Giuliani – his pathetic run for president maintained the tradition of New York City mayors failing to attain higher office. His political tap dance, which got good reviews in the Big Apple, did not play well in Dubuque, Iowa or Manchester, N.H. and will fall flat in upstate New York towns, villages and hamlets. Rudy carries too much political baggage particularly when it comes to social issues and his 9/11 aura has faded.

If Republicans are to become relevant in New York’s political arena, they must dump Mondello and install a new generation of leaders committed to a philosophy of smaller government and lower taxes. And with Gov. David Paterson increasing state taxes at the top levels by 27 percent and driving New York to the edge of an economic abyss, the tim e is ripe for a revolution to revitalize the GOP

[George Carlin]

Just wait, now we'll have to endure next week's bunch of response pieces and LTEs from Fat Tony or another mook responding to this LIBN piece, and LeBoutiliier's piece today in Newsday, all trying to convince us how great Mondello is and what a superb job he has done.

At this time, it is the executive leaders, Skelos, Cairo, Damato, et al who are responsible because they have let this go way beyond the point that all non-brain-dead Republicans have realized is too long.

Joe should've been shunted out on his fat arse like 7 or 8 years ago, but the spineless, gutless, mealy-mouthed, patronage whore "executive" committee has not had the balls to do what's necessary, right, obvious and long overdue.

Get ready for the sycophant letters next week. Get ready to laugh.

[ok fish boy]

And we should listen to george marlin's political advice .... why.... because he was such a resounding success as Port Authority Chairman. Frankly, I think that every Marlin piece should have the following disclaimer: I am pissed off at the Republicans because my freak show of a third party candidate run against Rudy Guiliani was a dismal failure, and George Pataki canned my ass when I worked for the MTA.


LONG ISLAND BUSINESS NEWS

Marlin: The sorry state of the NY GOP

Thu, Apr 30, 2009

On March 31, voters in Republican strongholds gave New York GOP boss Joe Mondello two more black eyes. In special elections, the party’s candidate for Brookhaven town supervisor, Tim Mazzei and its nominee for the upstate congressional seat vacated by Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, Jim Tedisco, went down in flames.

It is difficult to fathom such losses: In the post-World War II era, Brookhaven has been the most conservative township in the state - Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan carried it by landslide proportions. In 1970, James L. Buckley, who was elected U.S. Senator solely on the Conservative Party line, received 55 percent of Brookhaven’s vote.

Similarly, the 20th C.D., located in the northeast section of the state, has been rock-rib Republican since the time of Lincoln and today outnumbers Democrats by a staggering 75 thousand.

Why these GOP losses? Years of incompetent and intellectually bankrupt leaders.

It wasn’t always this bad. In 1995, just 14 years ago, thanks to the nuts and bolts organizational efforts of then state chairman, William Powers, Republicans held 14 of the 16 county executive posts, four of the six large city mayoralties, solid control of the state Senate, majorities in 57 of the 62 county legislatures and a Senator. They had also secured their first gubernatorial victory since 1970 and won their first attorney general race since 1974.

It was during the Pataki years that the great GOP decline began. Governor Pataki, a slacker who used his office to enhance his lifestyle, proved to lack a philosophical compass. To retain political power and perks, Pataki’s inner circle drove Bill Powers from office, installed a lackey, Sandy Treadwell, and adopted a “hide your conservatism” and “Democratic Lite” electoral strategy. Running to the left and pandering to special interest groups may have gotten Pataki re-elected in 1998 and 2002 but it had a devastating impact on the Republican Party.

Between 1998 and 2008, on the state and federal level, the GOP managed to lose the office of governor and attorney general, a U.S. Senator, nine congressmen, 12 assemblymen, and their 42-year hold on the state Senate.

Locally, fiscal mismanagement and corruption led to the eviction of Republican county executives in their three major strongholds: Westchester, Nassau and Suffolk counties.

Nassau County’s Joe Mondello, who took over the impotent, enfeebled party after the 2006 rout in which the GOP gubernatorial candidate received only 29 percent of the vote, has failed to improve the party’s standing with the electorate. Under his watch the loss of two senate seats in his Long Island backyard ended Republican hegemony in that body. In a recent interview, former Nassau County GOP congressman, John LeBoutillier, best expressed the view of Mondello held by many in his party: “He’s an incompetent leader of the party in Nassau and in the state. He’s good at keeping his job and getting multiple paychecks while we keep losing elections and losing power.”

The GOP bullpen is so bare that Newt Gingrich, keynote speaker at the April 15th Republican State Dinner, urged political retreads Geor ge Pataki and Rudy Giuliani to run for U.S. Senator and Governor, respectively, in 2010.

George Pataki for Senator? Please. This tax and spend politician who deserted conservative principles and squandered the historic opportunity entrusted to him in 1994, is a political embarrassment.

As for Rudy Giuliani – his pathetic run for president maintained the tradition of New York City mayors failing to attain higher office. His political tap dance, which got good reviews in the Big Apple, did not play well in Dubuque, Iowa or Manchester, N.H. and will fall flat in upstate New York towns, villages and hamlets. Rudy carries too much political baggage particularly when it comes to social issues and his 9/11 aura has faded.

If Republicans are to become relevant in New York’s political areba, they must dump Mondello and install a new generation of leaders committed to a philosophy of smaller government and lower taxes. And with Gov. David Paterson increasing state taxes at the top levels by 27 percent and driving New York to the edge of an economic abyss, the tim e is ripe for a revolution to revitalize the GOP

[NCGOP1 is Cursed]

This curse was placed on the Nassau GOP beginning in June, 1998 and Julie Cleary knows all about why.

Since then, eleven years now, it has been in effect and unaffected by any thing.

The one who placed this curse has not been mollified, nor apologized to, and it will remain in effect until such time as one of two things happen.

A... the string of GOP losses continues (and based on today's Newsday story concerning pay to play corruption of Kate Murray that possibility comes into view.)

B... the apology is issued and restitution is made.

Again, just ask Julie Cleary about the origins of this curse and its effectiveness over eleven years! The end of Mondello is near, all praise the end of Mondello, the curse remains in effect for one more big landmark event to occur in New York's political history...the loss of the Supervisior in the Town of Hempstead!

[Hoeybullooeee]

As for the curse of Pat, might be true. Pay to play in Hempstead, give me a break. Kate is lamest fundraiser out there, even the dems say that.

Have you seen Suozzi at work. Do business with the COunty, Tom calls you and then asks for you to give 10,000 to his golf outing. Thats a fact, even Snoozeday did a story on it.

The fault of the GOP loss, if any, lie with Big Joe and only him.

[George M.]

And we should listen to george marlin's political advice .... why.... because he was such a resounding success as Port Authority Chairman. Frankly, I think that every Marlin piece should have the following disclaimer: I am pissed off at the Republicans because my freak show of a third party candidate run against Rudy Guiliani was a dismal failure, and George Pataki canned my ass when I worked for the MTA.

Well, if you can argue with the message, attack the messenger. Really! I agree with most of what Scarecrow Marlin wrote. The above writer disputed none of it, but launched a bizarre attack on Marlin.

That's rather telling about the mental acuity of Chairperson Mondello's supporters.

Under Chairperson Mondello, the Nassau GOP is down to one countywide political office (from 5), one office in North Hempstead (from 7) and one of the four congressmembers who represent Nassau County (from 4).

BY ANY OBJECTIVE MEASURE, THE GOP HAS LOST GROUND UNDER MONDELLO's LEADERSHIP.

Cold hard facts. Tough to dispute.

[ok friend of fishboy]

Well, if you can argue with the message, attack the messenger. Really! I agree with most of what Scarecrow Marlin wrote. The above writer disputed none of it, but launched a bizarre attack on Marlin.

That's rather telling about the mental acuity of Chairperson Mondello's supporters.

Under Chairperson Mondello, the Nassau GOP is down to one countywide political office (from 5), one office in North Hempstead (from 7) and one of the four congressmembers who represent Nassau County (from 4).

BY ANY OBJECTIVE MEASURE, THE GOP HAS LOST GROUND UNDER MONDELLO's LEADERSHIP.

Cold hard facts. Tough to dispute.


The article was mostly filled with bile against Pataki and Guiliani, both of whom were successful politicians. The article lacks credibility because it mostly consisted of Marlin throwing around insults. Remember, it is highly relevant to the conversation that George Marlin was an abortion as a Port Authority Chief and a total and abject failure in the public sector. Marlin is at best an entertaining gadfly, and at worst a resentful putz nursing a grudge so many years after his public humiliation.

The day that George Marlin actually wins an election (pick an office any office) is the day he can criticize Pataki and Guiliani. with crediility. Marlin's attacks were clearly against the former Mayor and former Governor.

If anything, Pataki and Mondello have a rift which is actually longstanding. If Pataki gains, Mondello loses. So I guess this means that you support Pataki and reject Fish Boy. Please try to be better informed before polluting the web with your ignorance.

[George M.]

The article was mostly filled with bile against Pataki and Guiliani, both of whom were successful politicians. The article lacks credibility because it mostly consisted of Marlin throwing around insults. Remember, it is highly relevant to the conversation that George Marlin was an abortion as a Port Authority Chief and a total and abject failure in the public sector. Marlin is at best an entertaining gadfly, and at worst a resentful putz nursing a grudge so many years after his public humiliation.

The day that George Marlin actually wins an election (pick an office any office) is the day he can criticize Pataki and Guiliani. with crediility. Marlin's attacks were clearly against the former Mayor and former Governor.

If anything, Pataki and Mondello have a rift which is actually longstanding. If Pataki gains, Mondello loses. So I guess this means that you support Pataki and reject Fish Boy. Please try to be better informed before polluting the web with your ignorance.

Here are FACTS presented by Marlin:


Between 1998 and 2008, on the state and federal level, the GOP managed to lose

the office of governor and
attorney general,
a U.S. Senator,
nine congressmen,
12 assemblymen, and their 42-year hold on
the state Senate.
Republican county executives in Westchester, Nassau and Suffolk counties.

Under [Mondello's] watch the loss of two senate seats in his Long Island backyard ended Republican hegemony in that body.

I provided additional FACTS. Rather than deal with those FACTS, Mondello fans insist on attacking the messengers. It's obvious why the party is in such piss poor shape. These sad fools cannot even grasp how feeble they are.

[dear fish boy]

George Marlin states to obvious but without offering any alternatives and viable solutions, other than his own failures as a candidate and officeholder. Also, if Marlin's message were so clear, and his methods of winning so persuasive, why doesnt he seek the GOP nomination to run for Town Supervisor against Kaiman or take on Craig Johnson. Kaiman and Johnson are both incredible jackasses who need a swift kick in the ass, and Marlin claims he has what it takes to defeat entrenched Democrats.


Learn how to read, please. Marlin's focus is more on attacking the man who fired him, George Pataki, and Mr. Marlin's former opponent for Mayor Rudy Guiliani. Every Marlin piece should have a disclaimer:

WARNING: I AM A BIG DOOFY FAILURE WHO WAS FIRED BY GEORGE PATAKI AND GOT MY ASS KICKED BY RUDY GUILIANI, WHOSE MAYORAL RACE I COULD NOT SABATOGE AS A THIRD PARTY SPOILER.



Here are FACTS presented by Marlin:


Between 1998 and 2008, on the state and federal level, the GOP managed to lose

the office of governor and
attorney general,
a U.S. Senator,
nine congressmen,
12 assemblymen, and their 42-year hold on
the state Senate.
Republican county executives in Westchester, Nassau and Suffolk counties.

Under [Mondello's] watch the loss of two senate seats in his Long Island backyard ended Republican hegemony in that body.

I provided additional FACTS. Rather than deal with those FACTS, Mondello fans insist on attacking the messengers. It's obvious why the party is in such piss poor shape. These sad fools cannot even grasp how feeble they are.

[George M.]

This isn't about George Marlin or the many other critics of Chairperson Mondello's dismal leadership, it's about a GOP too stupid to grasp its own ineptitude.

[sorry bud]

This isn't about George Marlin or the many other critics of Chairperson Mondello's dismal leadership, it's about a GOP too stupid to grasp its own ineptitude.

Marlin gets no points for trashing his Republican enemies, like the man he opposed for mayor and the man who fired his ass from a government job. The more legitimate point is that the GOP is failing to create a unified opposition to the Obama/Paterson/Suozzi tax and spend policies. Moderates and conservatives are badly fractured at a time when they need unity. Actually, people like Marlin hurt the Republican cause with their by-line generated attacks on their former enemies. By attacking every conceivable Republican, Marlin only assists the Democrats.

It is almost as if Marlin wishes to help the liberals Democrats for some bizarre and undisclosed reason. You cannot throw punches at Mondello, D'Amato, Guiliani, and Pataki. If Marlin cares so much about the GOP, why doesn't he change his registration to Republican and fight to oust Mondello? I guess this is because George Marlin likes to be a man who shouts at the world, but offers no solutions, mainly because of his dismal failure as a public sector manager at the Port Authority. Marlin is not man enough to admit that he himself could not disipline a political driven authority even in the best of time to do so. Once Marlin takes a deep look into his own soul, and his own shoddy performance, then he can move on and offer constructive political advice.

[The Fish Boy Challenge]

You know what Georgie Boy, there is an easy way to show your manhood. Why don't you and your goofy friends register Republican and try to take over the Town of North Hempstead GOP Committee..... Show us how it's done... doofy boy. The GOP has no Town, State, or County jobs for their committee people.... so it's ripe for the taking. Win some party victories, and then unseat some incumbent Democrats. Then go for the big man's scalp.

[George M.]

You know what Georgie Boy, there is an easy way to show your manhood. Why don't you and your goofy friends register Republican and try to take over the Town of North Hempstead GOP Committee..... Show us how it's done... doofy boy. The GOP has no Town, State, or County jobs for their committee people.... so it's ripe for the taking. Win some party victories, and then unseat some incumbent Democrats. Then go for the big man's scalp.

I don't live in North Hempstead and I'm not responsibile for keeping Chairperson Mondello is office. Only a demented idiot would ignore Mondello's failure and find fault with folks who cite FACTS.

Had enough with the likes of you. Not even gonna bother voting for any Republicans this year.

[dummy fish boy]

I don't live in North Hempstead and I'm not responsibile for keeping Chairperson Mondello is office. Only a demented idiot would ignore Mondello's failure and find fault with folks who cite FACTS.

Had enough with the likes of you. Not even gonna bother voting for any Republicans this year.

You're in the Hempstead part of New Hyde Park... My bad..... You can always move around the corner or something, register Republican and try to seize the Town leadership. That is if you're not just a wind bag.

[George M.]

As they are and it may take another 6 to 10 ten years, but Hempstead GOP is looking more and more like the bunch in Brookhaven.

[dummy fish boy]

As they are and it may take another 6 to 10 ten years, but Hempstead GOP is looking more and more like the bunch in Brookhaven.

guess you're just a wind bag. a drive-by op ed writer in the service of the liberal elite. a lap dog conservative with no bite.

[Oooh, how articulate!]

guess you're just a wind bag. a drive-by op ed writer in the service of the liberal elite. a lap dog conservative with no bite.

Thanks Tony. Now go back to shining Joe's shoes.

[tin foil hat brigade]

Hee Hee hee

[WooHoo]

I hear the chairman is being recruited to do erectile dysfunction ads. How appropriate. The impotent bastard.

[tin foil hat brigade]

tee hee hee....

[how sexy]

I hear the chairman is being recruited to do erectile dysfunction ads. How appropriate. The impotent bastard.


Amazing how you are so fixated on another man's genitals and sexual performance. Are you one of these guys who opposes gay marriage but seeks out rough trade same sex encounters in truck stop men's rooms? Ya nut.

[Joey B.]

I find both the post and its reply unnecessary and crude. One can simply recite the long list of electoral defeats under the Mondello regime without attacking the chairman personally.

On the other hand, I've seen the same "gay" "marriage" fan constantly bring up his drivel -- supporters of traditional marriage are secretly promiscuous homosexuals -- several times now. It's untrue, irrelevant and quite boring. Odd that a "gay" activist or sympathizer would trash folks by accusing them of being "gay." Psychiatrist would love this odd fellow.

[clarkkent]

I find both the post and its reply unnecessary and crude. One can simply recite the long list of electoral defeats under the Mondello regime without attacking the chairman personally.

On the other hand, I've seen the same "gay" "marriage" fan constantly bring up his drivel -- supporters of traditional marriage are secretly promiscuous homosexuals -- several times now. It's untrue, irrelevant and quite boring. Odd that a "gay" activist or sympathizer would trash folks by accusing them of being "gay." Psychiatrist would love this odd fellow.

Oh, and who appointed you as the arbiter of good taste and decorum? Besides, you must admit that hypocrisy is always a bit funny, as in the upright Mr. Normal type who is really a raging out of control fiend who condemns the vices he secretly craves.

[Sad fellow]

with the strange notion that supporters of traditional marriages are deviants.

I really feel sorry for you. You have serious issues well beyond your self-anointed crusade against alleged hypocrisy.

None of this, of course, has anything to do with the incompetence of the GOP's leadership. You seem intent on steering the conversation away from this stunningly-bad leadership and toward your banal moronic attacks on supporters of traditional values.

Why is that?

[pervy]

Oh, do stop it. The sexual innuendos on this thread were started by the Mondello critics, and even appear in thread's title. Apparently, someone suffers an unhealthy fixation on the man, and even references his perceived reproductive capacity. Trashing Mondello is easy. Posing solutions is much more difficult. Don't get your cross dressing panties in a bunch over this. Traditional values are laudable, as are their supporters. But kooks who talk about other people's genitals, and then claim to be moralists, are pretty entertaining folks.

[Joey M.]

The first step is rather simple. Retire Joe Mondello. It doesn't matter who replaces him because even a vacant chair would be better than any occupied by Mondello.

Many folks have made many constructive suggestions over the years. Some include re-connecting with the party's conservative base rather than relying soley on TOH workers, reintroduce the practice of welcoming refugees fleeing the Democrat-controlled City for more GOP-friendly Nassau, aggressively defining real differences between Democrat tax/spend/social liberalism and bedrock GOP values of minimal government, restarting the moribund YR clubs and getting YRs to attend political/training events in and out of Nassau County, cutting office overhead by getting more volunteers in Post Avenue. Bring in entirely new campaigns consultants from other parts of the country and so many more.

[almost good]

The first step is rather simple. Retire Joe Mondello. It doesn't matter who replaces him because even a vacant chair would be better than any occupied by Mondello.

Many folks have made many constructive suggestions over the years. Some include re-connecting with the party's conservative base rather than relying soley on TOH workers, reintroduce the practice of welcoming refugees fleeing the Democrat-controlled City for more GOP-friendly Nassau, aggressively defining real differences between Democrat tax/spend/social liberalism and bedrock GOP values of minimal government, restarting the moribund YR clubs and getting YRs to attend political/training events in and out of Nassau County, cutting office overhead by getting more volunteers in Post Avenue. Bring in entirely new campaigns consultants from other parts of the country and so many more.


You want to hire a Kim Devlin type to run GOP campaigns? That's all we need. NOT.

[Joey M.]

It's pretty obvious that the current crew of campaign professionals Luntz, McLaughlin, Slater, Quinn, semi-retired Finkelstein et al cannot win competitive elections. Any one of them will say "it's not us, you give us mediocre candidates and have no message." While this might be true, it's only part of the problem. The Nassau and State GOPs need a complete overhaul. This means getting new management for the party, working to develop a message that more clearly defines the difference between the GOP and the Dems, redefining the candidate development process and bringing in new talent to run campaigns.

Here's a simple idea. Pick a winnable race somewhere in Nassau County or the state. Bring in outside campaign staff. Get some kid from Texas or somewhere who's actually done significant work on a winning GOP campaign. Let him run the campaign without worrying about whose nephew he needs to hire and see what happens. Can't do any worse than things as they are now. Part of the problem with the existing GOP campaign infrastructure is that the established "professionals" spend more time kissing ass and bolstering the chairman's ego than they do on coming up with creative ideas to win elections. I'd like to see some brash outsider come in, shake things up and say, "I don't give a damn what Mondello says about winning Roosevelt 16 years ago, this is what we need to do to win now."

And if somebody whines about Devlin this or that, too bad. It's about winning and not hurt egos.

[then put up]

It's pretty obvious that the current crew of campaign professionals Luntz, McLaughlin, Slater, Quinn, semi-retired Finkelstein et al cannot win competitive elections. Any one of them will say "it's not us, you give us mediocre candidates and have no message." While this might be true, it's only part of the problem. The Nassau and State GOPs need a complete overhaul. This means getting new management for the party, working to develop a message that more clearly defines the difference between the GOP and the Dems, redefining the candidate development process and bringing in new talent to run campaigns.

Here's a simple idea. Pick a winnable race somewhere in Nassau County or the state. Bring in outside campaign staff. Get some kid from Texas or somewhere who's actually done significant work on a winning GOP campaign. Let him run the campaign without worrying about whose nephew he needs to hire and see what happens. Can't do any worse than things as they are now. Part of the problem with the existing GOP campaign infrastructure is that the established "professionals" spend more time kissing ass and bolstering the chairman's ego than they do on coming up with creative ideas to win elections. I'd like to see some brash outsider come in, shake things up and say, "I don't give a damn what Mondello says about winning Roosevelt 16 years ago, this is what we need to do to win now."

And if somebody whines about Devlin this or that, too bad. It's about winning and not hurt egos.

We can agree that the GOP machine guys have demonstrated that they can only win as incumbents. Tedesco was the "machine" GOP's best shot, a legislative minority leader seeking congressional office in an Republican majority district. and in a special election. That was organization against organization, and the Democrats held on. What you are proposing is that insurgent Republican candidates with independent fundraising bases either secure the party's nomination independent of the party apparatus, or even primary designees. Then the candidate can hire who he or she wants. Again, that takes some moxy, commitment, and deep pockets. You're talking about Bloomberg style guys who aren't in it just for the glamour, but will do the hard work. like Bloomberg. This is not an endorsement of Bloomberg's ideology, but what you will need to do is create some model that a Republican can run on a good government style platform. It may be the correct sell, but it will be a hard one, as most media outlets believe the assine idea that liberal social policy is high minded and civic oriented, when it has actually been socially destructive.

[Joey M.]

You are propose that insurgent Republican candidates with independent fundraising bases either secure the party's nomination independent of the party apparatus, or even primary designees.

What you will need to do is create some model that a Republican can run on a good government style platform. It may be the correct sell, but it will be a hard one, as most media outlets believe the assine idea that liberal social policy is high minded and civic oriented.

Last things first. There's as much sense in complaining about media bias as there is in objecting to the weather.

Yes, the GOP in Nassau and New York needs to define itself as a radically different alternative to the Democrats. It needs, please spare me the silly attacks on Gingrich, a Contract With New York / Contract With Nassau County outlining key proposals where the GOP has popular support and the Dems do not.

As far as campaign management / candidate development, we really haven't any in Nassau County. Many GOP leaning foundations offer "schools" in campaign management, candidate development, fundraising, public relations and legislative staffing. Never heard of anyone from Nassau attending any of these schools. If the Nassau GOP had an active farm system / vibrant YR/CR/TAR program, it would be sending these young people to these schools.

As it stands now, if a young person tells his leader that he'd like to run for office someday, his leader will mark him down as someone to buy tickets, get signatures, stand with the odd candidate at the LIRR and leave some flyers (including the notorious vacuous sample ballot) on doorsteps. More astute leaders will encourage folks to get incolved in the Kiwanis and run for village trustee. A well-funded county organization ought to have a better-thought out system for developing its future candidates.

When a candidate from outside the traditional clubhouse wants to run for office, here's what happens. First, he gets the run around. After several months, he might get to see the chairman. The chairman offers modest encouragement, but no substantial advice. If the party thinks the candidate can raise money, they'll be all over him like flies with advice over whom to hire for campaign manager, PR person and whom to use for advertising, etc. In short, the party treats such campaigns as short-term patronage opportunities.

I do not advocate insurgent candidacies -- though I think the occasional hard-fought primary a good thing, but I do advocate a paradigm shift in the way the state and local party approach candidate recruitment and campaigns.

[YR Campaigner]

As an extremely involved Nassau GOP YR and more, I went to one of those Campaign Seminars run by the NRCC back in the early 90's. I spent my own money because sure enough the local GOP didn't see the value in sponsoring anyone (Unlike the National YR Convention in DC earlier in my day - which they did provide modest support for.)

Anyway, I was eager, I was attentive, I was earnest, I was dedicated, I was enthusiastic, I was welll.....just the kind of young person you are describing.

Here's what happened, here's Joe Mondello's response.....

NOTHING. Zippo. Zero. Nada..

Nothing!

That's how broke this is, it's been broke from way back in time....I mean, they just cannot be serious if someone is putting forth Pataki, Giuliani and Nixon's Son-In-Law for top state office. I mean, seriously!

The NYS GOP is at least a decade away from even the hint of regaining power. The only shot they have is Brian Foley, and maybe, maybe those dunces up in Westchester who voted to tax their constituents in order to provide low cost transportation for inner city urban dwellers. Other than that, they stand no chance.

So, any talk about going to school for this is entirely premature. First thing that has to happen is the cleaner has to come through the Nassau/State GOP offices with a big old broom!

[Joey M.]

So, any talk about going to school for this is entirely premature. First thing that has to happen is the cleaner has to come through the Nassau/State GOP offices with a big old broom!

Well, I posted earlier "The first step is rather simple. Retire Joe Mondello." Mondello fans then demanded constructive suggestions and I provided them. Before Mondello, nearly half of the executive areas had YR clubs and they worked with CRs at the local colleges. Today, there's no interaction with local CRs and one semi-active Nassau YR club which isn't even allowed to use Post Avenue for meetings. Way to go, Joe!

I'm pretty much done with this. I'd like to go to a county committee meeting, stand up and tell the truth, but I have too many friends with patronage jobs and cannot jeopardize their families because of a burning desire to see a vibrant GOP.

I'll do the next best thing. I've told my executive committeeman that I'll still get signatures, buy tickets for local events and help out locally, but will have nothing to do with the county until Mondello goes. I'm sure he'll be relieved/happy to hear that. Sadly, it's what Mondello wants, too.

It would just take one executive committee person or elected official to stand up and call a halt to the madness. Others would rise up in support. But right now, there appears to be no such brave soul in the Nassau GOP.

[just 1 question]

Well, I posted earlier "The first step is rather simple. Retire Joe Mondello." Mondello fans then demanded constructive suggestions and I provided them. Before Mondello, nearly half of the executive areas had YR clubs and they worked with CRs at the local colleges. Today, there's no interaction with local CRs and one semi-active Nassau YR club which isn't even allowed to use Post Avenue for meetings. Way to go, Joe!

I'm pretty much done with this. I'd like to go to a county committee meeting, stand up and tell the truth, but I have too many friends with patronage jobs and cannot jeopardize their families because of a burning desire to see a vibrant GOP.

I'll do the next best thing. I've told my executive committeeman that I'll still get signatures, buy tickets for local events and help out locally, but will have nothing to do with the county until Mondello goes. I'm sure he'll be relieved/happy to hear that. Sadly, it's what Mondello wants, too.

It would just take one executive committee person or elected official to stand up and call a halt to the madness. Others would rise up in support. But right now, there appears to be no such brave soul in the Nassau GOP.

why not simply rebel in a territory he does not want and cannot control.... leading us back to North Hempstead.

[Ghost of GOP past]

Well, I posted earlier "The first step is rather simple. Retire Joe Mondello." Mondello fans then demanded constructive suggestions and I provided them. Before Mondello, nearly half of the executive areas had YR clubs and they worked with CRs at the local colleges. Today, there's no interaction with local CRs and one semi-active Nassau YR club which isn't even allowed to use Post Avenue for meetings. Way to go, Joe!

I'm pretty much done with this. I'd like to go to a county committee meeting, stand up and tell the truth, but I have too many friends with patronage jobs and cannot jeopardize their families because of a burning desire to see a vibrant GOP.

I'll do the next best thing. I've told my executive committeeman that I'll still get signatures, buy tickets for local events and help out locally, but will have nothing to do with the county until Mondello goes. I'm sure he'll be relieved/happy to hear that. Sadly, it's what Mondello wants, too.

It would just take one executive committee person or elected official to stand up and call a halt to the madness. Others would rise up in support. But right now, there appears to be no such brave soul in the Nassau GOP.

As you say, the important thing is to protect all those patronage jobs and contracts. Adhering to the party line, showing blind team loyalty and just hating Democrats are important seconds. True conservative ideology, political courage and winning are tertiary considerations.

This is why the GOP has slipped into irrelevancy. You should all be ashamed.

[Former rusty rep]

At least we embraced the Log Cabin Republicans. This is a winning strategy. Everybody likes man on man.

[Excuses Excuses]

But like Santino said, he deserves his job because he throws good fundraisers.

No matter how you add it up, a party that is money rich and vote poor cannot win elections - as Mondello has so ably demonstrated.

[EXgoper0002]

But like Santino said, he deserves his job because he throws good fundraisers.

No matter how you add it up, a party that is money rich and vote poor cannot win elections - as Mondello has so ably demonstrated.


They need to welcome the new breed. All they do is take care of the old and busted. Just like kate Murray rehiring her dad for $40 / hr. That job could help someone who needs it.

Nice Job dumbasses. Alienate the people trying to want to help