top earners in suffolk 58% sheriffs dept

[o/t facts and myths]

There are 8500 members in the ame
There are 2200 members scpd
There are about 1000 deps/cos.
Sheriffs dept makes up less then 10% of all suffolk employees
Of the top 300 earners 58%, or 175 are from the sheriffs office. About 30% of overtime paid went to them. 18.1 million.
Roughly 18,100 in overtime per member.
Scpd COPS average 9,500
soa 11,000
Detectives, (only a few 100) 18k
For some reason Newsday doesnt break down the top ten like they used to.......

[I SHOULDA BEEN A DEP]

When I Hit My 20, Can I Be A Dep And Crush This County In Ot ? I'll Even Wear That Gay Hat....

[SPIN TYME]

LET THE FUN BEGIN
Lets hear the excuses.

[up 4000]

There are 8500 members in the ame
There are 2200 members scpd
There are about 1000 deps/cos.
Sheriffs dept makes up less then 10% of all suffolk employees
Of the top 300 earners 58%, or 175 are from the sheriffs office. About 30% of overtime paid went to them. 18.1 million.
Roughly 18,100 in overtime per member.
Scpd COPS average 9,500
soa 11,000
Detectives, (only a few 100) 18k
For some reason Newsday doesnt break down the top ten like they used to.......

Last year the deps and cos average 14k each in o/t

[Unregistered 505]

When I Hit My 20, Can I Be A Dep And Crush This County In Ot ? I'll Even Wear That Gay Hat....

hope you like the pay cut

[reality check 2009]

There are 8500 members in the ame
There are 2200 members scpd
There are about 1000 deps/cos.
Sheriffs dept makes up less then 10% of all suffolk employees
Of the top 300 earners 58%, or 175 are from the sheriffs office. About 30% of overtime paid went to them. 18.1 million.
Roughly 18,100 in overtime per member.
Scpd COPS average 9,500
soa 11,000
Detectives, (only a few 100) 18k
For some reason Newsday doesnt break down the top ten like they used to.......



The police department incurred the most overtime at $31 million, with detective union members averaging $18,528 apiece, superior officers $11,069 and PBA members $9,553.

Add that to the $400 million dollar budget will you. The cops are still running the show. They are try and stop that Exec

[HERE IS THE SPIN part 1]

The police department incurred the most overtime at $31 million, with detective union members averaging $18,528 apiece, superior officers $11,069 and PBA members $9,553.

Add that to the $400 million dollar budget will you. The cops are still running the show. They are try and stop that Exec

Yeah that was posted. But 31 million among 2200 police INVESTIGATING CRIMES aprox 32000, making arrests 24,000, ASSISTING THE public with 880,000 911 calls...., as opposed to 18 million to less then 1000 sheriff members doing?????? lord knows what....
The entire sheriffs dept averages 18k, the entire scpd averages 10k.
And the sheriffs dept is up 4k from last year.


I await your new spin......

[real reality check]

The police department incurred the most overtime at $31 million, with detective union members averaging $18,528 apiece, superior officers $11,069 and PBA members $9,553.

Add that to the $400 million dollar budget will you. The cops are still running the show. They are try and stop that Exec

The deps and cos make up less then 10% of the total employees ...union....and account for 58% of the top 300 earners.

[Unregistered121212888]

You people are so stupid. Who cares who has the highways, who cares who makes the most money. Wah I only make $120,000 a year, wah, the sheriffs account for all the overtime. shut the F up and do your jobs.

[Unregisteredzero]

You people are so stupid. Who cares who has the highways, who cares who makes the most money. Wah I only make $120,000 a year, wah, the sheriffs account for all the overtime. shut the F up and do your jobs.

In other words;
I cant win this discussion, so I'm going to call you names like a little baby.

[THE "NOANSWER" SPIN]

You people are so stupid. Who cares who has the highways, who cares who makes the most money. Wah I only make $120,000 a year, wah, the sheriffs account for all the overtime. shut the F up and do your jobs.

No one held a gun to your head to read this, no one forced you to reply.
If you cannot answer like a mature adult, then move along.

You obviously care, because you took the time from your life to go onto your computer, go to this blog, read the thread, and reply.

Its apparent, you are at a loss for words, and would like to turn this into the usual trash/ romper room of name calling.

For anyone else, with a mature answer, please lets hear it.

[Unregisteredbaldlosah]

You people are so stupid. Who cares who has the highways, who cares who makes the most money. Wah I only make $120,000 a year, wah, the sheriffs account for all the overtime. shut the F up and do your jobs.

Thats pretty much the answer I'd expect from someone who cannot hold their own in this thread.
But cannot allow this thread to go without a reply of some sort

[Unregistered0000000000]

There are 8500 members in the ame
There are 2200 members scpd
There are about 1000 deps/cos.
Sheriffs dept makes up less then 10% of all suffolk employees
Of the top 300 earners 58%, or 175 are from the sheriffs office. About 30% of overtime paid went to them. 18.1 million.
Roughly 18,100 in overtime per member.
Scpd COPS average 9,500
soa 11,000
Detectives, (only a few 100) 18k
For some reason Newsday doesnt break down the top ten like they used to.......

FYI Skippy...there was only 1 Deputy on the list, just so simple minds don't think they were the top earners., as so many people will try to do the famous misleading of everyone by using term "Sheriffs". The other guys were CO's. But seems like life is good for Detectives, ey!!

[Unregistered0000000000]

Yeah that was posted. But 31 million among 2200 police INVESTIGATING CRIMES aprox 32000, making arrests 24,000, ASSISTING THE public with 880,000 911 calls...., as opposed to 18 million to less then 1000 sheriff members doing?????? lord knows what....
The entire sheriffs dept averages 18k, the entire scpd averages 10k.
And the sheriffs dept is up 4k from last year.


I await your new spin......

Oh, so now you want to start with the CO's who went without a contract for how long ???? Go ahead...start bashing them to and see where it gets you. You have some balls you pos

[Unregistered00000000]

FYI Skippy...there was only 1 Deputy on the list, just so simple minds don't think they were the top earners., as so many people will try to do the famous misleading of everyone by using term "Sheriffs". The other guys were CO's. But seems like life is good for Detectives, ey!!

ok "SKIPPY" post the link with the names of all involved.
You are claiming only 1 of 300 top earners were deputies?

[Notakers]

Oh, so now you want to start with the CO's who went without a contract for how long ???? Go ahead...start bashing them to and see where it gets you. You have some balls you pos

C/O's won't take the bait on this one, their frustration is too focused on Mr. C/E. I believe term is coined 'Tunnel vision'.

[wiz kid]

Oh, so now you want to start with the CO's who went without a contract for how long ???? Go ahead...start bashing them to and see where it gets you. You have some balls you pos

Gee are you as troll?

[THE"BOLDFACELIE"SPIN]

FYI Skippy...there was only 1 Deputy on the list, just so simple minds don't think they were the top earners., as so many people will try to do the famous misleading of everyone by using term "Sheriffs". The other guys were CO's. But seems like life is good for Detectives, ey!!

Another lamer attempt at spin.

[Unregisteredaaaaaaaaa]

C/O's won't take the bait on this one, their frustration is too focused on Mr. C/E. I believe term is coined 'Tunnel vision'.

So what are you saying?..co's are so focused on Levy that no one would stand up to you, behind your computer, questioning what others do to earn their OT. That they have such tunnel vision that they can't pay attention to 2 things at one time and recognize a jack*** trying to say because they are not scpd they can't possibly working to earn their pay? That's the problem..your self riteous behavior. You can't throw your crap out their about everyone and not expect a response. A job is a job. What matters is how one does their job, not what agency they work for.

[Unregistered2380404]

No matter how you look at it....a Sheriff on OT cost more that a PO on straight time. Good job Mr. Levy trying to save money. You had many people fooled, but now the facts and numbers are out for all the public to see.
"While the election board had a total of $2.8 million in overtime costs, the report also showed the sheriff's office had 58 percent of the top 300 overtime earners, and received $18.1 million, or 27 percent of the overtime paid to all active employees. Sheriff Vincent DeMarco said he has not seen the report and declined to comment."

And of course he declined to comment. He has to call Levy to figure out how to spin this!

[Unregistered12345]

Does Anyone Know Where We Can Find This Report.
I'd Like To See The Whole List Of 300 - Not Just The Top Ten.

[keep us out]

So what are you saying?..co's are so focused on Levy that no one would stand up to you, behind your computer, questioning what others do to earn their OT. That they have such tunnel vision that they can't pay attention to 2 things at one time and recognize a jack*** trying to say because they are not scpd they can't possibly working to earn their pay? That's the problem..your self riteous behavior. You can't throw your crap out their about everyone and not expect a response. A job is a job. What matters is how one does their job, not what agency they work for.

I'm a co, for what its worth on here. And I dont get your point. It is what it is. If every co was on this list I'd say God bless. Those that are, are. Cant pretend can we? And there is no shame in what we make.
There is no questioning what anyone does to earn their o/t.
The issue is between deps and cops, and btw there is more then 1 dep on the top 300 list.
Thank you for not involving me, or my coworkers.
We can speak very well for ourselves.

[Unregistered54321]

Does Anyone Know Where We Can Find This Report.
I'd Like To See The Whole List Of 300 - Not Just The Top Ten.

58% are from the sheriffs dept. I dont think we'll be seeing this list anytime soon.

[keep us out]

FYI Skippy...there was only 1 Deputy on the list, just so simple minds don't think they were the top earners., as so many people will try to do the famous misleading of everyone by using term "Sheriffs". The other guys were CO's. But seems like life is good for Detectives, ey!!

he clearly uses the term sheriff dept, and the term deps/cos....no one should be misled, by your statements perhaps not by his.

["EXTREME DIVERSION" SPIN]

So what are you saying?..co's are so focused on Levy that no one would stand up to you, behind your computer, questioning what others do to earn their OT. That they have such tunnel vision that they can't pay attention to 2 things at one time and recognize a jack*** trying to say because they are not scpd they can't possibly working to earn their pay? That's the problem..your self riteous behavior. You can't throw your crap out their about everyone and not expect a response. A job is a job. What matters is how one does their job, not what agency they work for.

wtf?
Do you mean self righteous?
The new angle, throw some shit, hope it sticks.
Hope something he says bothers a c.o. or dep or cop to throw this off into another tangent.
No one is buying it skippy

[keep us out]

Oh, so now you want to start with the CO's who went without a contract for how long ???? Go ahead...start bashing them to and see where it gets you. You have some balls you pos

I've yet to read anything bashing us. I've yet to read a post that even discusses us.
Why do you think it is a negative?
It is what it is. If cos are #1 in overtime earned, then we are #1.
Whats your point?

[no point]

Whats your point?

He is upset that the pd might have won an argument and is trying to figure out how to off track it.
Hes just about done now.
Expect some trolling soon

[Unregistereagenda]

questioning what others do to earn their OT. That they have such tunnel vision that they can't pay attention to 2 things at one time and recognize a jack*** trying to say because they are not scpd they can't possibly working to earn their pay?
I didnt read or get any of this in any post here. Why are you trying so hard to stir shit up?

[Unregistered0000000]

I've yet to read anything bashing us. I've yet to read a post that even discusses us.
Why do you think it is a negative?
It is what it is. If cos are #1 in overtime earned, then we are #1.
Whats your point?

I was responding to this, and if your a CO you fall under Sheriff:

Yeah that was posted. But 31 million among 2200 police INVESTIGATING CRIMES aprox 32000, making arrests 24,000, ASSISTING THE public with 880,000 911 calls...., as opposed to 18 million to less then 1000 sheriff members doing?????? lord knows what...

[keep us out]

I was responding to this, and if your a CO you fall under Sheriff:

Yeah that was posted. But 31 million among 2200 police INVESTIGATING CRIMES aprox 32000, making arrests 24,000, ASSISTING THE public with 880,000 911 calls...., as opposed to 18 million to less then 1000 sheriff members doing?????? lord knows what...

A bit dramatic but nothing else. No doubt a zing to the deps, If I dont care why do you?
dont fight my battles for me.

[Unregisteredskippy]

FYI Skippy...there was only 1 Deputy on the list, !!

I guess you are not going to post a link to where you got 1 deputy on the list?

[Unregisteredzerozero]

. But seems like life is good for Detectives, ey!!

Yup the 400 or so detectives averaged 18k,Of course their base pay is higher then scpd's.
but the same 18k was the average of all sheriffs dept, 1000 or so.
So life is good for them too

[Un top 300registered]

Did anyone honestly expect any less?

[Unregistereddonttalk4me]

So what are you saying?..co's are so focused on Levy that no one would stand up to you, behind your computer, questioning what others do to earn their OT. That they have such tunnel vision that they can't pay attention to 2 things at one time and recognize a jack*** trying to say because they are not scpd they can't possibly working to earn their pay? That's the problem..your self riteous behavior. You can't throw your crap out their about everyone and not expect a response. A job is a job. What matters is how one does their job, not what agency they work for.

When you are a sworn member of the sheriffs dept then talk, until then shut up. We do not need you to fight our battles, especially when you are doing so to get at the pd, because you have issues with them.
This is nothing new. and it doesnt prove we made o/t on the hwys. There are more c.o.s then deps, and unless you can PROVE who is who in the top 300, and that the deps have more then last year, it really doesnt mean much.

[Unregis tered]

I guess you are not going to post a link to where you got 1 deputy on the list?

There isnt one, he was lying

[hmmmm squared]

Does Anyone Know Where We Can Find This Report.
I'd Like To See The Whole List Of 300 - Not Just The Top Ten.

More then half are from the sheriffs dept. 175 out of 300.
and for some reason the list was not run in Newsday...hmmm
No mention of it on News 12
hmmmmm again

[Unregistered65432]

There isnt one, he was lying

Ah, come on guys, maybe they meant the top 10, which would be true...1 dep, 3 co's, 6 board of elections., etc. In any case, thos individuals that got the OT worked for their salaries and missed time spent with their families.
Everyone need's to relax and stop fighting each other and look at the common denominator. Let's focus on that .

[Unregistered65432]

Ah, come on guys, maybe they meant the top 10, which would be true...1 dep, 3 co's, 6 board of elections., etc. In any case, thos individuals that got the OT worked for their salaries and missed time spent with their families.
Everyone need's to relax and stop fighting each other and look at the common denominator. Let's focus on that .

Ah cmon guys? Maybe they meant???
If you post something either back it up or dont post it.
Sorry
No one is arguing that the guys worked those hours and missed time blah blah blah, the issue was a longstanding argument that deps are not among the top earners.
The deps were proven wrong.
Having said that, I hope they all enjoy spending their money

[Taxpayer Ted - Pissed off]

Yup! No matter how you try to lie and spin this, a Deputy Sheriff on overtime earns exactly $1.22 LESS than a Suffolk County Police Officer on straight time. But it's no wonder we have to see the usual lies, half truths and exactly half of the information provided. Lets see what the other portions of the Newsday article said, shall we? Sure.

Cut and pasted directly from Newsday:

The police department incurred the MOST overtime at $31 million, with detective union members averaging $18,528 apiece, superior officers $11,069 and PBA members $9,553.

Budget review officials also said the biggest payout for termination pay for unused sick and vacation time last year went to Thomas Brandon, a former deputy police inspector, who left with $255,491.

THe average overtime for a Suffolk Police Officer in any rank or position is $13,053.33334 and that is on top of an already inflated salary base - truly amazing that any of you can come here or anywhere and b!tch about how much someone else has earned. There is no end to your pompous and self righteous feelings of entitlement!

Of course the PBA / SOA will not comment until they can figure who is going to be the fall guy on this (not them - they will somehow try to blame Levy). They tried to fool the public with their lies and false numbers because they do not like the Deputies. In the end this will as always cost the taxpayers more for less services because the PBA doesn't care less about anyone but themselves. As the cops on here continue their lies and scare tactics, the educated taxpayer is aware of these lies and of the extremely high salary the cops are making each year just to show up. Remember the elections in Nov, 17 out of 18 legislatures up for election and they know it. Time to show the PBA enough is enough. I called my Legislator and she is aware that our Civic Association will not support her if she joins the PBA!

[UnregisteredOT]

Last year Deps averaged $23,000 in OT. Newsday has the info and won't print it because it will make certain politicians look bad. Truth in Journalism.

[Unregistered9572]

Yup! No matter how you try to lie and spin this, a Deputy Sheriff on overtime earns exactly $1.22 LESS than a Suffolk County Police Officer on straight time. But it's no wonder we have to see the usual lies, half truths and exactly half of the information provided. Lets see what the other portions of the Newsday article said, shall we? Sure.

Cut and pasted directly from Newsday:

The police department incurred the MOST overtime at $31 million, with detective union members averaging $18,528 apiece, superior officers $11,069 and PBA members $9,553.

Budget review officials also said the biggest payout for termination pay for unused sick and vacation time last year went to Thomas Brandon, a former deputy police inspector, who left with $255,491.

THe average overtime for a Suffolk Police Officer in any rank or position is $13,053.33334 and that is on top of an already inflated salary base - truly amazing that any of you can come here or anywhere and b!tch about how much someone else has earned. There is no end to your pompous and self righteous feelings of entitlement!

Of course the PBA / SOA will not comment until they can figure who is going to be the fall guy on this (not them - they will somehow try to blame Levy). They tried to fool the public with their lies and false numbers because they do not like the Deputies. In the end this will as always cost the taxpayers more for less services because the PBA doesn't care less about anyone but themselves. As the cops on here continue their lies and scare tactics, the educated taxpayer is aware of these lies and of the extremely high salary the cops are making each year just to show up. Remember the elections in Nov, 17 out of 18 legislatures up for election and they know it. Time to show the PBA enough is enough. I called my Legislator and she is aware that our Civic Association will not support her if she joins the PBA!

what is the matter ted?? didn't your mommy tell your jealousy will get you nowhere in life. now you can shove your civic association up your azz. any suffolk politician knows if they want to win, the road comes through the pba.....and yes so did steve levy ,,unfortunately.

[UnregisteredPO]

Ah, come on guys, maybe they meant the top 10, which would be true...1 dep, 3 co's, 6 board of elections., etc. In any case, thos individuals that got the OT worked for their salaries and missed time spent with their families.
Everyone need's to relax and stop fighting each other and look at the common denominator. Let's focus on that .

With the publishing of this article in Snoozeday, we all as taxpayers, seem to be missing the Big Picture here.

There is an overtime list with these crazy payouts on it for a reason. Steve Levy has gutted the Police Dept and not filled the positions that are budgeted for and paid for by our taxes each year.

We have people who are incarcerated for crimes committed against our society and those criminals REQUIRE supervision. It's non-negotiable, they must be guarded and the Corrections Officers do that with less and less people every year and have done so for the past 6 years with NO CONTRACT! This was plain and simple, Mr. Levy would not negotiate in good faith and as such, the contract was resolved through arbitration.

We have Deputy Sheriffs who are a necessary agency though they seem to provide a duplication of Services, Marine Patrol, K-9, Motorcycles etc. Now with the Sheriffs responsible for patroling the LIE, it seems their Overtime has skyrocketed. They are not staffed properly for such a Patrol Function and need to either hire more Deputies or do it on Overtime.

As far as SCPD, there are somewhere around 350-400 positions not filled In SCPD and there aren't any cops being hired to replace the retirees. SOMEONE has to do their work and that's where these PO's, Det's and Sgt's make all their overtime. There are never enough cops to fill the sector cars so the Dept. has to spend OT to fill the sector. There have been ZERO promotions to Sgt. since the list was established in November 2007. Sgt's and Lt's are retiring just like everyone else and there has to be supervisors in the patrol Squads. There aren't any Detective Squads fully staffed and haven't been so in over 5 yrs. As a result, all the cases have to be handled by the Detectives that are there. A Detective can't tell a Rape Victim, Robbery Victim, Stabbing/Shooting Victim, Domestic Violence Victim, "Sorry, my eight hours are up and we're off duty now. Can you come back tomorrow and I'll finish your case then." or "I'm sorry but I'm off in 15 minutes and won't be able to process the crime scene, interview witnesses or go look for that guy who broke down your door, tied you up and held you at gunpoint while sexually assaulting your wife."

If Mr. Levy would simply fill the positions budgeted for and stop with the smoke and mirrors financial shenanigans, this list would still be there but the amount paid out would be a small fraction of what it is now.

It's simple accounting People, Mr. Levy is pulling one over on all of you who think he's tough on spending. You deserve the services you pay for in your taxes and he is not providing them. It's that Simple!!!

Wake up and smell the B.S.!!! Mr. Levy is piling it on Deep.
You will decide where you want this county to go come election day..

[heson our side??]

Yup! No matter how you try to lie and spin this, a Deputy Sheriff on overtime earns exactly $1.22 LESS than a Suffolk County Police Officer on straight time. But it's no wonder we have to see the usual lies, half truths and exactly half of the information provided. Lets see what the other portions of the Newsday article said, shall we? Sure.

Cut and pasted directly from Newsday:

The police department incurred the MOST overtime at $31 million, with detective union members averaging $18,528 apiece, superior officers $11,069 and PBA members $9,553.

Budget review officials also said the biggest payout for termination pay for unused sick and vacation time last year went to Thomas Brandon, a former deputy police inspector, who left with $255,491.

THe average overtime for a Suffolk Police Officer in any rank or position is $13,053.33334 and that is on top of an already inflated salary base - truly amazing that any of you can come here or anywhere and b!tch about how much someone else has earned. There is no end to your pompous and self righteous feelings of entitlement!

Of course the PBA / SOA will not comment until they can figure who is going to be the fall guy on this (not them - they will somehow try to blame Levy). They tried to fool the public with their lies and false numbers because they do not like the Deputies. In the end this will as always cost the taxpayers more for less services because the PBA doesn't care less about anyone but themselves. As the cops on here continue their lies and scare tactics, the educated taxpayer is aware of these lies and of the extremely high salary the cops are making each year just to show up. Remember the elections in Nov, 17 out of 18 legislatures up for election and they know it. Time to show the PBA enough is enough. I called my Legislator and she is aware that our Civic Association will not support her if she joins the PBA!

When in doubt say scpd is overpaid.
Thank you for your insight.
Because you are proving our point.
40 scpd hwy were transferred to patrol. They didnt lose their jobs. Their cost remains the same. The 1st day one deputy was hired on overtime either to work hwy or to replace the deputy 's original assignment, it cost the taxpayers more. Again thank you. What they maike an hour is not the point. The point is they cost more.
The average o/t is not 13k. There are 900 patrol plus cope crime and gang units, a few 100 soa, and 400 detectives. You cannot add up 18,13 and 9k and get the average. The average o/t is about 10k. As opposed to the deputies/cos 18k.
The police dept cost 31 mill in o/t. why arrests, 911 calls, court, trial. There are also 2200 or so police.
The sheriffs dept cost 18 mill, and there are less then 1000 of them.
The D.i's payout is from 30 years, and he is not a cop, but a political figurehead.

Nice try, but as always you fall short. short of the truth,. short of making any point, other then one for our side

[Unregistered df]

When in doubt say scpd is overpaid.
Thank you for your insight.
Because you are proving our point.
40 scpd hwy were transferred to patrol. They didnt lose their jobs. Their cost remains the same. The 1st day one deputy was hired on overtime either to work hwy or to replace the deputy 's original assignment, it cost the taxpayers more. Again thank you. What they maike an hour is not the point. The point is they cost more.
The average o/t is not 13k. There are 900 patrol plus cope crime and gang units, a few 100 soa, and 400 detectives. You cannot add up 18,13 and 9k and get the average. The average o/t is about 10k. As opposed to the deputies/cos 18k.
The police dept cost 31 mill in o/t. why arrests, 911 calls, court, trial. There are also 2200 or so police.
The sheriffs dept cost 18 mill, and there are less then 1000 of them.
The D.i's payout is from 30 years, and he is not a cop, but a political figurehead.

Nice try, but as always you fall short. short of the truth,. short of making any point, other then one for our side

You are absolutely right. For the deps cost less then cops on o/t to work, it would have to be 40 cops fired. Not transferred. The minute deps accrue o/t on hiwy or replacing others in their detail because of hiwy its costing more