Eastport Ambulance

[Eastport Ambulance]

I don't know what it is but every company that I know of seems to have major problems with the people in charge. I think once they are elected they go completly out of control with a power trip. I know that Shirley, Mastic and Mastic Beach are all being run by officers that are doing nothing but dividing their members and creating havoc. Sounds like the same in East Moriches. Perhaps the Town ought to look at what is going on in these corps since they are ultimately responsible for their budgets they should therefore have some control of what is occuring.

[FireMedic096998]

Does anyone see that this is just fueling everyone against us out there. I am a paid paramedic and a volunteer fireman/medic and very proud of both. I think that if you are online bashing departments, whether it be your own or a neighboring department, you are just making a bad situation, worse. Instead of bashing everyone anonymously, why not fix the problems. I guarantee you that Newsday is reading this and drooling. We are killing ourselves, it isn't anyone else. So just remember that when no one has a place to volunteer anymore because the county or the state step in and replaces us. That would really be a shame. We really are our own worst enemies.
Bryan Kelly
FF/Medic
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[FF]

The state/county will never step in and replace vollies. The volunteer community as a whole is a VERY large voting block, any politician who would dare to take on the vollies would do it at political suicide.

If newsday really wants to resort to getting their news stories off an internet message board, LET THEM!!
That rag is the laughing stock of the island as it is!!!!!
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[Eastport Ambulance]

Although I agree with the Newsday comment, I think that it isn't going to help our situation by giving them more ammunition to use against us. As far as the voting is concerned it isn't going to come down to a vote, it is already here, just in small forms. Paid EMS is alerady 2/3's of the county and almost every firehouse in Suffolk has atleast one houseman, if not more than that. The providers in Nassau and Suffolk are in denial if they do not see atleast a combination system in the future. I would never want to replace the volunteers, i am a fourth generation fireman and very proud of it, but it is going to eventually come to some kind of career/vollie system. The point I was trying to make is that we are shooting ourselves in the foot by airing our laundry out on here. We are supposed to be proffessionals. I understand that even the tightest family is going to have its problems, but keep them in house, not out in the public view. Then we just look likes jokes instead of role models.
Bryan Kelly
FF/Medic

[Sustem Provider]

I have to agree with you up to a point, some departments have paid personnel some go on calls some do not. As a Volunteer and paid professional you know the bottom line is patient care and that includes response time. I have 26 years in the system both as a volunteer and 5 years in a paid system. It is time for the system to go paid for the simple reason of patient care and response time. Can you guarantee an ALS First responder on scene in 6 minuets, and an ambulance on scene in 12 minuets? That is the National Standard we as providers should be meeting, I do not want a job on an ambulance, my priority is providing quality service to the people and that is what they expect and pay for. It should start as a combined service, we have many dedicated volunteers who love what they do and just need help meeting the needs of the community. By the way there is no Eastport Ambulance. Eastport is covered by East Moriches Ambulance. As for the problems with Shirley, Mastic and Mastic Beach Ambulance, well the members need to grow up and remember why they joined, follow there BY-Laws, shut up and provide the service.

[jamespjack]

hey bryan you spelled professional wrong in one of your posts.....retard.....lol


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[FireMecic096998]

I absolutely agree 100% about the combination system. I think that is a great idea. I went to college in PA and that is the system i rode in up there and it worked out awesome. It was paid Fire/EMS with volunteer suplementation. I know there are a lot of dedicated volunteers in Suffolk and Nassau, I know many of them. That is why i dont think by just eradicating them will benefit anyone. You are right the national standard is what we should look at. The problem we have is that we are finally starting to make legislation to work with that and everyone is upset as if they did not know this was coming???? How could you not see it. The departments that do not have paid assistance and go 24ing calls all day long and are to "PROUD" to park their foolish pride and get help really piss me off. Because then what they do is 24 calls to everyone else and kill there numbers and overwork their volunteers to the point where no one wants to come out for their own calls, let alone a 24. And these places know who they are, no names necessary.....Also i am an ex-asst.chief of EMCA, that deos not mean that i am speaking on EMCA behalf, it is just for me to inform everyone that i understand these problems we are discussing......To James, thanks for the spelling lesson.....@#$%&
Bryan Kelly

[Sad]

what is going on at the EMCA?

[Sad]

Quotes: We are supposed to be PROFESSIONALS.Not out in the PUBLIC VIEW...........
Well, What kind of PROFESSIONALS posted a check for public view???????????
As a ex-assist chief of EMCA, you should know what is going on is wrong and not stand by them.
You went to college, I hope you didn't go for English because you have many spelling errors.
Where's the Chief in all this? Why isn't he doing the right thing..................

[FireMedic096998]

Listen it is SAD that you have to resort to poking fun at my grammar, do you have a real agenda, and yet another hero who wont sign his/her name. There is a lot of problems in every organization, just read this message board, you'll see what i'm saying. I do not approve of what that one member did and no one knew what he was doing until he did it. Kinda hard to prevent it, if you did not know. I do not know where the chief is on all of this, why don't you ask him?? I do not ride there anymore b/c i am just too limited with my time, i haven't since Oct 2003. No my major wasn't English, but that was a good one..... But lets get real here folks, we should be using this board for betterment, not harm. Breaking someones horns because they forgot a comma or misspelled a word is ridiculous. I did not go to college for typing or computers, as you can see from some of my posts, but who really cares, I know I don't, so grow up. As for doing the right thing, as far as I know the member you were talking about is suspended pending a hearing. That is all i really know about it though.
Bryan Kelly
College Grad
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[toocuteemt]

Think about it...If it was to go all paid not everyone who is a vollie now would get a job.

They would hire minimal employees since 24's won't be be a problem.

There would be no statistics on how each company was doing because it just would not matter.

What would the people who do not get hired but love to be able to ride an ambulance do?????

We need to keep volunteerism alive weather some are paid or not.....most of the paid individuals also vollie in their own community.

[FireMedic096998]

TooCute, you are absolutely right. I do not want to see the volunteers go, I don't think anyone who volunteers does. What we do have to realize is that volunteers can't do it all anymore. Less Membership and More Calls equals big problems. Not only that, but the members you do have are working 2-3 jobs just to live in the towns we volunteer in. Taxes are going up almost everywhere and our average age in the firehouse/ambulance co. isn't exactley dropping either. So that is just some food for thought. I never want to see the volunteer system go, but it needs help and i think the numbers speak that.
Bryan Kelly
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[Lady]

do you really think that people dont volunteer because of 2-3 jobs?????
Hello, maybe it's the atmosphere there.........

[FireMedic096998]

Yeah i really do believe that working and family is one of the main reasons. There are still volunteers in your town aren't there??? Some people are dedicated enough to look past the BS and just do there job. Unfortunately some aren't. Your right there might be some people who don't because of the atmoshpere, and you can't argue with that, thats their right. At the same time, why give up on your community b/c of some bad apples??? I can't say that i have not been frustrated so much that i took a week or two away from the BS, I think everyone needs too sometimes. The atmoshpere is what your members and officers make it. I know companies that have a lot of issues but still have very dedicated volunteers that stay out of the BS, and just ride calls......thats just my opinion lady
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[Lady]

Dedicated enough to look past the BS!!!!!!!
What if the BS is too much, too much where members call police on each other over babyish things.
Maybe members don't want to ride calls because they don't want to be written up on bogus things.
Wow your spelling is awful,use the spell check.

[firegal]

How did this assistance chief get a hold of copies of this check. Was he a member of the benevolent, cuz if he wasn't, a member of the benevolent gave him the info. That stuff is s'posed to be confidential. I think the person at fault is the one who gave out info they weren't supposed to.

[FireMedic096998]

Listen, I don't know what your looking at, but i don't see any spelling errors. To be honest with you I know who you are and you can bash me all you want, but at least i am not afraid to sign my name on my posts. Because if that is all you can attack me on is my spelling, I think I can live with that. And I have to tell you that charges are always bogus when you are looking at them from your own point of view. I don't know anyone who likes being reprimanded, but sometimes you can only take BS for so long before the Chief has to do something about it. I don't think the member in question was right doing what he did, nor was anyone who assisted him in his crusade. I think it was absolutely inappropriate, and it was handled as far as i know. What can you do????? I am not the Chief and no one here knows the whole story. You think you do, but you don't, I assure you. So have a nice night and everyone make sure you use your spell check, because spelling counts.
Bryan Kelly
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[FireMedic096998]

There is nothing positive being said or discussed on this board, or any other for that matter. People are just looking to stir the pot instead of looking for possible solutions. Thats just not worth my time. When something constructive is being disussed I will offer my opinions just to throw out there. They mean no more or less than anyone elses, they are just opinions. But I have to say this constant bashing is not going to help our situations at all. That is one thing I think we all can agree on. Actually the way it looks maybe we can't!!!!!! Be Safe and Good Luck
Bryan Kelly
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[toocuteemtt]

I myself have dealt with the bogus BS from my former department but I still will not give up what I love to do. I just had a change of scenery and moved to a neighboring department.

Michele Barrett

[picojay]

<~~~ pico likes havin michele and kevin both around no matter where they ride! They are always there when ya need em, just have to give michele like 30 or 40 app.s before she joins......heheehe...

[Lady]

wow, you really think you know who I am????You think so.....You would never quess right.....See now aren't you makeing a fast decision on that and really don't know all the facts.....
Who's bashing???
Just because you sign your name doesn't make you a hero.If you really had some good ideas or some good input to share why don't you say it to the memberships face and not talk to a computer?
hey I have a friend who has a friend who has fooled around with a married women with kids.What advice would you give that friend?

[joke]

Lady is doesn't sounds like your a lady at all. FireMedic never said he was a hero, he said that you were a coward for not signing your name in a nice way. And actually, he hasn't really bashed anyone. All he has said is that he doesn't think that we should be doing this on the web to one another because it is "killing us". To be honest I have to agree. As far as him saying it to the membership, he is, by signing his name. And that last comment makes no sense at all, talk about dirt and bashing, I think your the one doing that.

[FireMedic096998]

For the record, I am not or have ever claimed to be a hero. Anyone who knows me will tell you that I am very laid back person until it is time to get serious. As far as my agenda. I attempted to bring a lot of these issues to the board when i was in office, sometimes with success and sometimes without. I did the best I could while i was in office, but I never claimed to be anything spectacular. I let my members decide, but I like to think I was fair and level-headed. Now maybe if you knew me you would know I am a straight shooter, and I don't really leave much room for interpretation. Basically, I say what I mean, no ambiguity. I have never bashed anyone, and i have offered many opinions on how to improve my community. Unfortunately I do not ride there anymore, so my hands are tied as to current events. As far as your last comment, it makes no sense at all. To even try to begin to understand it is mind boggling. It has nothing to do with this site or me. So I do not particularly care about your friend. Let me ask you something, do you volunteer or are you a bitter ex with an axe to grind. Sounds like the latter to me. But that is not my concern either. So have a nice day and Be Safe out there.
Bryan Kelly
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[Lady]

wow.........
First of all, learn to read. I said Who's bashing????
I didn't say you were. I asked a question because you said that people were and I didn't see that on any of these post.
You said you would offer your opinion.So I asked.
Don't offer your help to people and you wont reply.
You apparently dont know what a lady is J.

[firegal]

First of all I think "Lady" and "Firemedic" need to take their fight elsewhere. I thought this was about the leaking of confidential benevolent information to assistant chiefs who in turn revealed that information to the membership which in turn embarassed members that thought they could trust the benevolent. Who leaked the info... that person shouldn't be a member of a benevolent or any other organization where there is confidential information

[curious]

Seems your " In the Know".
I dont see anywhere in these posts mentioning that an assistant chief had this check, yet YOU seem to have that information.

Why dont you share the rest of the story with us ?
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[firegal]

At the beginning of this posting mess it states that a check from the benevolent was posted at the ambulance buildling.. then it states that two assistant chiefs were suspended pending a hearing. If they didn't do anything wrong or know something they're not supposed to then why were they suspended. I wasn't there. obviously others here were... maybe we should find out what the real story is. If there is nothing to hide then I'm sure the members would be more than willing to share. We're all ears!!

[curious]

I can read, i know what the first post said.

YOU claimed an assistant chief had this check, obviously putting you in the know.

Now spill it, whats going on out there ?
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[firegal]

Hey curious,
I just put two and two together. Check posted, two chiefs resigned? assistant chief suspending pending a hearing?.. I just know enough about how these things work to put it all together. And like someone else posted. where is the chief during all this??

[curious]

K now you have 2 chiefs resigning and 1 suspended ?

Are you making this up as you go ?

Come on be honest. What do you know ?

Perhaps the 2 resigned over a COMPLETLY different issue ?

Cant find any info about 1 being suspended though, leading me to believe even more you know something.
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[firegal]

Firemedic's reply entitled "sad" states that the member was suspended pending a hearing.

[toocuteemt]

Hey I turned my app. in...just waiting for a reply

[curious]

sorry still not seeing it.............

I did see something about a MEMBER being suspended but nothing about a CHIEF.
There is a differance you know ?

Just fess up and tell the story, nobody here knows who you are anyway.
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[firegal]

I wish I did know the whole story. All I know is what I've heard around town. Does anyone know the reel story?

[tm]

It is important to know the whole story. Too bad i'm clueless!
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[flight angel]

apparently you've heard the same things I have. there are only three officers in the benevolent, the chief of emca, the former treasurer and the former paid first responder. it seems to me it had to be one of them who leaked the info to the assistant chiefs. no one else has access to any of the info. it's been 2-3 months since it happened and as far as i know the suspended ass't chief still hasn't had a hearing. it may not have been the best decision but perhaps they felt they had no recourse within the dept? just guessing...
a better question might be why is the former paid first responder still on the board of the benevolent????? i heard he gets to name his own replacement-is that possible??

[concered]

Maybe getting suspended was the best action they got...
Was that person fair with their actions with other members? What comes around goes around!
Question? Are all ambulance companies allowed to use taxpayers money to pay for cell phone use (who are they calling if you use the handheld radio in the rig to talk to each other),gas allowance (to go where),
car use (to go where..to use up mileage,wear & tear of the truck & then trade up to a more expensive one).
Shouldn't only one person the Chief have the use of the truck and a gas card for the truck not (treasurer,Public Relations,Training officer or the Secretary)?

[PoliticalOBserver]

The core problem in the volunteer EMS is based on the lack of a practical alternative. The paid system would not work in suffolk primarily because of collective bargaining, pensions, and the sort. A very easy, but highly expensive solution is just to let all volunteers off the hook, and begin a huge municipal system. The tax base cannot sustain such an increase, no matter how much the necessity. The suffolk legislature may complain because a vocal constituent base is complaining; yet, not one of them will increase the size of bureacracy or increase taxes to support such a bulge in government, where traditionally this area has resisted such increases. What the volunteer system needs is to have individuals dedicated to the system. What it needs is for mature people to push aside their personality flaws, and be professional. It's a tough job, someone has to do it though. If you don't want to take up the responsibility, please do not stay and spread negativity, take the element of volunteering, use your freedom of choice, and put your negative energy to use somewhere else, like ending 'knife and forkism'.
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[flight angel]

I think you missed my point. I'm neither for or against the decision of the board to suspend the officer who posted the check with the recipients name still on it. i helped elect some of those on the board to represent me. i don't know everything that went on not should i. My big issue is how come the person who leaked the check to the assistant chief isn't facing any repercussions or disciplinary action?? that is the only person who broke any benevolent confidentiality bylaw.
I'm not sure I understand your questions.
***Question? Are all ambulance companies allowed to use taxpayers money to pay for cell phone use (who are they calling if you use the handheld radio in the rig to talk to each other),
You're kidding right??? Maybe you only talk to others on the rigs but the officers have to talk to each other all the time. they have to handle many more "problems" than could be discussed on a portable. would you want them to discuss your suspension on the portables when anyone can listen in???
***gas allowance (to go where), to do all the errands the regular vollies don't volly up for
***car use (to go where..to use up mileage,wear & tear of the truck & then trade up to a more expensive one). see above
***Shouldn't only one person the Chief have the use of the truck and a gas card for the truck not (treasurer,Public Relations,Training officer or the Secretary)?
The gas cards and ALL the vehicles belong to the company not to the individual officer assigned to the unit. It seems to be a good management of company resources to allow another officer or member to utilize company resources instead of letting them sit idle.
your complaints are about perks. is that why you joined or why you quit?

[Taxpayer]

Utilize or you mean abuse the privilege.....
Do you understand English? To take the the vehicles on calls or to gas up or go to meetings is one thing.But to go to other states,or over 30 minutes away from the district is abusing the privilege. To talk to each other hello,got a phone or meet at the building to discuss business.If you ride you know you can switch down to talk......

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[flight angel]

apparently I hit a nerve!! Your original complaint was "cell phone use (who are they calling if you use the handheld radio in the rig to talk to each other),
gas allowance (to go where),
car use (to go where..to use up mileage,wear & tear of the truck & then trade up to a more expensive one).
Shouldn't only one person the Chief have the use of the truck and a gas card for the truck not (treasurer,Public Relations,Training officer or the Secretary)?"
I stand by my previous post. The vehicles are company vehicles for use by company members/officers. You never mentioned going out of state. If an officer is going out of state he/she should leave the Ambulance Company behind for use by others in the company. But there's nothing in the bylaws to prevent him/her from doing so.
Once again as far as radio vs phone conversations did you not read the last response. Perhaps you would sue the company if anyone was overheard discussing your suspension on the radio which is open for ANYONE to listen in on.
If it's so important to you why didn't you file a bylaw change to restrict the use of the vehicles to in-district?
There are enough people who would support it....

[The Press]

This is good info for The Press of Manorville and Moriches/Newsday. I have heard rumors around town about abuse of some perks. Have the reporters start digging around, stir up local taxpayers and the truth will be told.

[Ambulances]

I know Billy Renzetti personally and I work with him as a responder, and there is nothing joking about him. The man knows his stuff. Is it really any of your business which chiefs go and which don't?? NO!!!! As far as I am concerned they are doing better than many other depts that could be named, but I have class and ain't looking to jam up anyone.

[bls]

Who are you to judge whether anyone else is qualified and ems or fd?? Hopefully you're not subjected to having to work with a highly qualified responder like Billy. My deepest sympathy in having to endure volunteering with someone and professional and personable as Billy.

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[Lostsoul]

Is Eastport next to Northport?

[Hereyougo]

East of Northport

[eastport]

Yeah, I guess it is east of northport. Very east and south. It's the most south east department in brookhaven.

[Lostsoul]

Northport is in Brookhaven?

[lkjsd]

no, it's town of Huntington.

[Unregistered66666666666]

HI

[ambualnce]

didn't know there is an Eastport Ambulance?