CHIEFS: Who are the Good Ones

[YIKES]

Who are the good chiefs out there

[Cuanto Costa]

I heard they all get a stipend.

[YIKES]

It always goes back to the Commissioners .....The Subject is CHIEFS . This just proves that most people who post on these types of sites are just political bozos looking out for their own party. The Chiefs are elected by the membership of the Dept alone not the public THANK GOD. The Dept choses who will lead them and hopefully they usually chose a good candidate not a
"pal"O' mine " like County and town positions.

The commissioners elections have slowly been destroyed by both parties trying to get their suck A$$es in a elected position

[Jerky]

a good copiague chief is on our wish list

[GoodChief]

There's a good Chief in Brentwood. He is sooooooooooooooooo good, even though it takes him 10 minutes to get out of his car and 30 minutes to put his turn out gear on. And another 10 minutes to wipe the drool from his mouth. But other then that, he's the greatest Fire Chief on Long Island.

[YIKES]

Does anyone THINK before they vote??? Its your choice YOU put them there.

[vollies rule]

thats true and since this month is election time for most depts don't complain when they get re-elected for chief.

[HFD]

If you think you have it bad come to Hicksville were if you dont get elected the first time or the second time or even the third time just keep on running and eventually the membership will feel bad enough for you that they will elect you. Then you can enact your revenge for not voting you in right away. THis is obviously referring to 01 and 02. There is a future however and the membership has realized that we need chiefs will knowledge and experience up in that spot so the tide is changing. If you dont believe me I have a spreadsheet
YOU OLD ANGRY DRUNK!!!!!!!!

[FFFOFHFDCHIEFS]

AFTER READING YOUR COMMENTS I JUST HAVE TO TELL YOU HOW MOST OF YOUR BROTHERS FEEL. THE A$$HOLES AT STATION 2 SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THE WAY THEY HAVE BEEN ACTING. YOU HAVE LIVED HIGH ON THE HOG BECAUSE NO ONE HAS HAD THE BALLS TO PUT YOU IN YOUR PLACE UNTIL NOW. THE WAY YOU HAVE BEEN ACTING, YOU SHOULD BE MEMBERS OF A ZOO, NOT A FIRE DEPARTMENT. THERE IS MORE THAN JUST PUTTING OUT FIRES TO BEING A MEMBER OF A FIRE DEPARTMENT, THERE IS AN IMAGE TO UPHOLD. CHILDREN AND RESIDENTS LOOK UP TO YOU EVERY DAY. YOU SHOULD BE APOLOGIZING TO THE CHIEFS FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND LOOKING TO MAKE HICKSVILLE FIRE DEPARTMENT A BETTER INSTITUTION.
FROM YOU BROTHER FIREFIGHTER WHO CARES

[strtbore]

Emeril Legasse

[JJD]

He couldn't hold Julia Childs's whisk...

[Yeahhhh]

Grow some Balls and put your name up. Stop talking trash about a good company.

[MrTiger]

The way they act? What being the most active company in the Department! Being first due to almost all of the calls! Being the most respected company in the county! Your statement about image; talking trash about a company doesn't help the image. With respect to the chief's (01,02), they need to learn how to communicate with fellow members and get of their high horse. They most learn how to treat people with respect. Thinking they are god and treating people like sh*t doesn't help.

[eng2]

Lets see we are the most active company in the department. We have the highest amount of medical technicians in the department. I'm curious to know what you think is going on at our house that constitutes a zoo and what you think we get away with. Is it that as soon as a call comes in we race each other to the truck and are 21 while other company continue to sit in their bar stools. Sounds pretty bad. The shirts that were so "contreversial" was a hawk swooping down on a mouse. There were no indications as to who each represented because its just a shirt not a statement. I guess we will just have to live with the title of a$$holes because we took of our dress shirts at the dinner. Sounds like envy to me.

[HFDFF]

The people involved knew the rules for Dress code before going to the dinner. The Chiefs were doing there job. If you people would put as much effort into doing whats right for the department instead of bashing the Chiefs all the time, we would have a much better department. You had your chance again last night at the department meeting to air out your problems and once again, no one stood up. Instead of hiding behind your keyboard to write these messages, why don't you stand up and be a man. If you think you could do a better job then the Chiefs we have now, than go for it. But I can assure you right now, Its not as easy as it looks. Especially when you have people who won't step up directly but hide in the shadows!!

[bma]

let's not kid ourselves here people. if company 2 had taken off their dress shirts during the dinner to reveal a regular HFD t-shirt, the sort found at any labor day parade, they would not have received a 3 week loss of house privileges. the chiefs merely would have told them to put their shirts back on; maybe a little slap on the wrist. the chiefs and their followers on these forums are not fooling anyone by saying company 2 received their punishment simply because they removed their shirts. technically, anyone who took off their tie AFTER removing their jacket should have been punished. the rules were clear: no jacket, you must wear your tie, and vice versa. there were MANY members, from companies besides 2, who had removed their jackets and hung their ties from their shirt pockets. bravo to the chiefs for doing their job - unfortunately they forgot that these rules apply to ALL the members of the HFD

as for HFDFF's accusations that company two members are hiding behind their keyboards: do you even realize how hypocritical that statement is? you criticize these men for "hiding in the shadows," yet you yourself hide behind your user name. company 2 members and supporters who contribute to this forum are simply defending themselves against the defamatory accusations made by cowards such as yourself and FFFOFHFDCHIEFS who continue to hide behind a mask of anonymity.

finally, to HFDFF, your subject for your last thread is titled "I Agree with LastGreatAct." do you actually know what the phrase Last Great Act stands for?

[Who Cares]

Two weeks, two months; who cares. Lets just be happy with what we have. This sight is a poor way for people to voice their opinions. Grow some b@@ls and voice your opinions at the department floor. Cry about Station two and what they have done. I hear them getting more 21F's and 22's before any other company in the department. Lets stop bashing the company that still has company pride and try to be more like them.

[jollievollie]

For a good laugh read brentwoods post. and they call themselves pride of brentwood?

[luvthejob]

North Babylon is looking for a good chief that actually does the work of a Chief!!!!!!!!

[PAIDFD]

YEA YOU AINT KIDDING WHAT A JOKE, WHATA SHAME THEIR IN SUCH SHAMBLES THAT THEY ARE IN

[ashmd2bfrmNB]

the chiefs from north babylon must have solar powered pagers because they dont get up for anything after 1am

[flappy817]

Not being a member of any FD I am curious as to how all of these "bad chiefs" get elected? Do "bad members" vote for them?:

[ashmd2bfrmNB]

they made deals, but that is fine if thats the only way you can get in then great but do the job

[ltjag]

I know it seems crazy but he who buys the most kegs wins. What a way to choose your leaders!

[1075]

So if you want to be a chief in North Babylon the way to do it is to make a deal. I guess part of the deal was not going on rescue calls and not going on any alarms after 0100 hrs..It has become a dark time in North Babylon and it is an insult to our past chiefs...Things in North Babylon are bad and getting worse.....How about this deal go on a few rescue calls and get your ass out of bed and maybe you can earn respect, and not have past chiefs remind us that you should be respected!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Another Voice]

You really should stop trashing the fire service. You are giving your former colleagues from Long Beach, both paid and volunteer, a bad reputation. If you were from my department you would have received a blanket party some time ago.

You are a disgrace.

Stick to a subject that you think you know about...politics in long beach.

But, wait, if you knew as much about long beach politics as you claim to know about everything else maybe you wouldn't be out of a job.

You're a loser.

And no matter how many SAT words you use to bash the volunteer fire service...you're still a loser.

And even if you get your job back...you'll still be a loser.

A wannabe loser with a real crummy attitude.

Stop trying to fix Nassau's problems and worry about your own.

Loser.

[Heck Yeah]

Amen my brother!

[luvthejob]

.....what?

[PAIDFD]

WHO CARES ABOUT HIM THIS THREAD IS ABOUT HOW NB CHEIFS ARE OVERWEIGHT OVERPAID AND USELESS

[JJD]

If the claims are true, it sounds like the members in North Babylon elected a bad one this time. The question is, did he start missing late night calls only when he became chief, or was it something he was famous for all along? If this is new, his election is just a mishap--after all, in Nassau we elected Suozzi. Who knew?

If you had reason to believe that he was going to be a no show, and you voted for him anyway, or couldn't get anyone to run off the floor, then it's your fault.

Regardless of how it happened, though, you will have the chance to do what other departments do, when the occasion warrants, and that is vote him out next time. My department has done it twice during my 15 years, on the merits because of the chief's performance each time, and every chief who sits in the chair knows it can happen again.

Do I understand from the last poster that the NB chief is paid? If so, you might want to contact the DA (who seems to be quite hungry these days) to complain about taking a salary and then not showing up for work.

You're right, by the way, Ltjag is a non-issue on this one. Call me naive to expect to see fire when I smell smoke, but somebody who gets bounced from a job for three years (and counting) has probably done something a bit more serious than he's trying to suggest. Frankly, having gained success, if not justice, for a lot of people over the years, as far as I'm concerned the outcome of an arbitration/mediation/threatened lawsuit has nothing to do with whether Ltjag had it coming.

[PAIDFD]

AS IN OVERPAID I MEANT ALOT OF FRINGE BENIFITS, NOT A SALARY...

[ltjag]

Look, I have expressed many opinions on these boards, some well received, others less so. My dispute with my employer has nothing to do with the topic on this thread and I don't know why anyone would see fit to insert it into the discussion. To anyone wishing to vilify me I invite you to do so on the appropriate thread that has been created for that purpose. If you want to debate me or rebut something I've said related to this topic, than feel free. Lets not turn every thread into the Ltjag bashing thread. Moving on, the topic here seems to have evolved into a forum for people to express their dissatisfaction with their chiefs, and thats fine. It's a perfectly legitimate topic for debate. I too have often wondered how certain individuals ever got to be chiefs. In my department the paid members don't get to vote for the chief, it's a strictly volunteer concern. As far as how they're elected, how is anyone elected? Simple. They make promises. Maybe a new rig for your company. Maybe some perks. And maybe just the boost in stature your company would experience by having "your guy" in the office. Whatever the reasons, there has to be a better way. Popularity alone is a terrible criteria to use in choosing your bosses. That's not to say that the biggest prick in the department should be chief either. It should be the most qualified who occupy the position. The problem is that a guy can sleepwalk through his training and still meet the requirements for the position. I have a suggestion, how about a test for chief. Why does'nt the LI volunteer community band together and have the state develop a test for volunteer chiefs? Obviously, you can't assess a guys work ethic from a test, but at least you'll have a far greater degree of predictability this way. You can still rotate them, if, in fact, you even want to. Just make all candidates take and pass a test. Certainly this is'nt too great a burden to impose on some one who is looking to lead your department, is it?

[1075]

It is time for North Babylon to make a decision. Are we going to provide EMS for North Babylon..If the answer is yes EVERYONE has to be part from the newest probie to the chief of the dept..
If the answer is no we have to figure out how to put in place a paid program that works...

The bottom line is leadership..If the chiefs feel that EMS is not important then the membership will feel it is not important..Lead by example....

You made a deal!!!!! Step up to the plate and please prove me wrong!!!!! It is our neighbors our friends people we have know all our lives and we can not get the ambulance out in a timely manner when the need us...this is a problem!!!!! like I said it is decision time

[i of the tiger haha]

Well as we all know dont blame 30 cause he isnt running the Dept His side kick 32 is well thats the rumor anyway and the new 33 has no business being there he won cause of a deal i say have a re-election and we shall see who wins.......NB never had a problem when they had sta 2 chiefs in now its the sta 3 mecca and look at what is happening and no i am not from sta 2 i hate those guys too :-)

[MinaRules]

All I can say is Mina Rules!!

[flappy817]

I come home from a looooooong shift after a real busy day working with you guys and read your ridiculous comments back and forth . You guys are typical Americans; all you do is bitch and moan about all of the "injustice". As I said-----Bitch and moan. Do you do anything about it except try and top each others "bad chiefs" and "poor management" stories. Just like when we vote for bad presidents. Who really is to blame?

You all complain about the lack of rescue calls your chiefs respond to. How come in any given day the same Emts and CCs respond to rescue calls and bring them into the ER. Only a few of you guys{no gender noted} are seen on a routine basis. Your community thanks these responders. Maybe all of you responders should get out of bed after 1am and make a few calls---not keep your pagers off or just show up at the house, sign the book and get credit. Only a few of you guys are seen routinely. Your Chiefs are only as good as your members make them. Maybe if you all pitched in and worked together instead of against each other you wouldn't all be so miserable.

[1075]

One of the best chiefs we ever had in North Babylon.........And like our past 1-8-30 No deals...Just good work and supported the members by answering alarms.

Look at the last 2 station 2 chiefs...You may not agree with everything they did but they were there for you in the field morning noon and nite!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[no more deals]

You might not like all Bob and Jim did as chief..But they were always on the road

This is starting to suck. The dept is falling apart
Maybe we should think about a come back from an old chief and get things back together and see some on a rescue call that actually knows what is going on...Ex-chiefs mina and harringtion are missed!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ashmd2bfrmNB]

amen to that NO MORE DEALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:"> :"> :">

[IHEARD]

I heard if you want to have a drinking contest go to Copiague...I heard they have Chiefs that could drink all under the table.

[CRY BABY]

YOU WOULD RATHER HAVE PUT IN THAT ST2 CAPT AS CHIEF WHO BY THE WAY LOST OUR STATION $7,000 IN A FUND RAISER WHAT A JOKE GREAT JOB BUY BOTTLED WATER DRINK THAT MAYBE IT WILL HELP YOUR THINKING PROSES

[FF]

do tell would like to hear more.....

[1134]

animal house rules those sta 3 chiefs suck we need 52

[CRY BABY]

deals are some times good some bad but you should give 30 a chance he truly is a company man he will always do the right thing he had to come from a station but he is company first as for the great ones from station 2 bob was but the other one you new wear you stood whith him because he was not shy he was only a station chief you know he wood stick it up your a$$ at every call wich was great morale for st2 but the hell with the hole company he was know great chief his personality he got from his i will not get to personal but his rat father and his brother the one that got locked up for the 911 scheme that piece of @#%$

[Get a life]

52 ? WHO IS HE

[CRY BABY]

52 SHOULD GO BACK TO ST4

[Get a life]

WELL IT SOUNDS TO ME THAT STATION 3 HAVE REAL FIREMAN AND SOMEONE OTHER STATION IS CRYING BIG TIME

[Get a life]

SOUNDS TO ME THAT STA 3 HAVE VERY GOOD FIREMAN AND STA 2 IS CRYING

[NB FD]

HE IS REALY A SHE THATS THE WAY HER MEN FEEL

[NB FD]

HE IS REALY A SHE THATS THE WAY HER MEN FEEL

[CRY BABY]

ST2 LETS MAKE A DEAL STOP SHOWING WHAT LITTLE BABYS YOU ARE AND EVERY ONE WILL GET ALONG

[NB FD]

HEY 52 YOUR DEAL F--K TONY YOU SHOULD HAVE TAKEN IT LIKE A MAN OR JUST FOLLOWED YOUR WIFE SHE HAD THE BALLS TO QUIT THE LADIES YOUR JUST A BITCH

[NB FD]

HEY 52 YOUR DEAL F--K TONY YOU SHOULD HAVE TAKEN IT LIKE A MAN OR JUST FOLLOWED YOUR WIFE SHE HAD THE BALLS TO QUIT THE LADIES YOUR JUST A BITCH

[paidfrmn1213]

You all need to get over yourself because when the ex chief was in not a call was missed by him. Where were the people running for chief. He was at every call. whether he was working or not

[st2]

stop being a baby joe russo

[st2]

1-8-72 you are a fat @#$% !!!!!!!!!!

[CRY BABY]

THE OLD CHIEF WENT ON CALLS JUST SO HIS ASST COULD NOT SHINE BECAUSE OF HIS BIG EGO FOR SUCH A SHORT LITTLE @#%$ HEAD AND SO HE COULD SAY TO CENTRAL ST2 ONLY EVERY BODY ELSE CAN HAVE A 5 SOUND FAMILIAR A$$ HOLE THAT WAS WHAT THE COMPANY THOUGHT OF HIM SO KEEP HANGING YOUR HAT ON HIM

[NB FD]

SOUNDS LIKE HE IS AREAL A$$ HOLE THAT ST2 CHIEF IF THE ST2 MEN HAD BALLS WHEN HE WAS IN OFFICE THEY SHOULD HAVE TOLD HIM HE WAS A REAL A$$ HOLE INSTEAD OF SAYING IT BEHIND HIS BACK

[concernedNBff]

:"> c'mon guys chill now we are going to start attacking each other????????????? enough is enough!!!!!!!!!!the chiefs are the chiefs, with the exception of bird(33) i think the others are ok. they do alot and care alot thats obvious! the heagans and the fazinskis couldn't hold a candle to the chiefs of today! Harrington can't match knowledge with Brian at a fire but Brian can't match the # of fires with Harrington who cares ? if we all cared as much as we say we do than get on your rigs and answer calls instead of punching keys complaining abou stuff we should be talking about in house.

[Get a life]

THEY JUST GOT A CALL AND WHERE IS 33 HMMMMMMM 30 AND 32 ON THE ROAD AND ITS ONLY 12 15 HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[2bulldogs2]

maybe you should have helped out instead of posting threads in this forum. oh wait but when its time to go on a trip or get t shirts your the first to sign up!

[jollievollie]

nbfc still rules i love all my chiefs

[jollievollie]

hey 1075 you want to talk about the last 2 station 2 chiefs well talk about some of the ones before, like cannone and heegan 33 has made more calls then the 2 of them combined and maybe if 52 stopped wimpering about the stupid election amd motivated his men we wouldn't give waway all those calls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ashmd2bfrmNB]

the last sta.2 chiefs what about the chief that got a dwi (in the chiefs car)and thrown out then came back and ran against a city fireman for captain and made it? and your saying that sta. 2 had bad chiefs not to mention the chief that got thrown out for cracking a member over the head with a crowbar. Lets stop talking about the past and deal with right now we have a problem and it needs to be fixed

[luvthejob]

hey crybaby looks like you mouth is as big as your stomach. NBFD stop hiding behind this forum and the board room. if any of you cowards have the balls you know station 2 has there meeting wed. night....show up and show how brave you really are.

[Skippy The Punk]

Do you know who the happiest person is in the Fire House ? The Houseman Why! Because since these EzBoards'/ LIPolitics came about, the members would use the Bath room Stalls.Now they don't write on the wall/stall's anymore or the unsigned letter. We use these threads to voice our objections.Now everybody can see inside and no-matter how many times that I'v attempted too point this out I'm put on ignore...I don't expect people too see this as a problem because they must be frustrated.We need to clean up our own house before the community can support us with our operational concerns.When the community see's these postings don't you think that they are, judging us,How about there confidence in us do you think this will diminish.Well of cause it will, No Babylon has gotten everything that it has asked for from there community and as a result, the other Fire Departments who are less successful, will fell the backlash, of the rhetoric that is produced by us airing our dirty laundry.People think about the consequence's of your actions.

[taildogger]

ok guys enough is enough. stop airing our dirty laundrey for the entire world to see. if you people have a problem with eachother say it to eachother. this is getting way out of hand

[Hurst Tool Boy]

1-8-72 you are a fat @#$% !!!!!!!!!!


What do u guys have against him he seems like the only st2 2 officer that does everything fire/rescue always on calls when the dept and community needs him. I am a long time member of this dept and i cant believe my eyes if all these people have problems then be a FU*KING MAN and say it to the person's face otherwise shut the F*UCK UP and do what the community needs REAL MEMBERS THAT GET THEIR TRUCKS OUT !!!!!!!!! :">

[companyman]

amen to that.... we need more people to put up and shut up, play both sides of the ball

[348]

WELL IT TOOK A PHONE CALL TO GET ME TO COME ON HERE AND SEE WHAT PEOPLE ARE WRITING I DONT FIND ANY OF THIS FUNNY BUT I GUESS THE MEMBERS THAT HAVE POSTED THINGS ON HERE HAVEN2 NO BALLS TO SAY TO THE PERSONS FACE ANDN2 HAS FOR THE PERSON THAT IS UNDER THE NAME ASHMD2BFRMNBN2 JUST SO YOU KNOW I DIDNT GET THROWN OUT A$$HOLE I RESIGNED AND AS FOR FIGHTING FIRES OR EVEN RUNNING A FIRE I AM SURE YOU CANT EVEN HOLD MY JOCKSTRAP BUT I DO HAVE THE BALLS TO SAY WHO I AM AND IF YOU NEED TO MEET ME IN PERSON I AM SURE YOU KNOW WHERE I LIVE OR WHERE I WILL BE SO PEOPLE THINK BEFORE U RIGHT @#%$ ON HERE YOUR ONLY HURTING THE FIRE COMPANY THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY

[toughguy]

listen sweetheart dont talk about hiding in this forum you guys started this @#%$ an now you are getting pissed because we have the balls to defend what we believe in? Look at the #'s the chiefs are out evry day and night so go @#%$ in your hat!!!!!!!! And you want to talk about hiding ,you have to threaten with your whole station, give it up thats bullsh*ityou have been hiding for weeks in this room and now WE have to come to station 2 wed night ? if you had any balls yourself you would stand up and say to their faces but you wont you'll try and sound tough and shoot your mouth off well i am quite sure your one of those "through the window firefighters "from canada. bye bye frenchie !!!

[nbhostile]

what are we all blind???? we are fighting with each other over the guys who are in the trenches with us!!!
what about those penny pinching hypcrats in the board room??? pres frank is cheap when he walks he sqeaks. he conmncerns himself with coffee table politics and not the real problems of this company. fat laf is worried about the pages of a cookbook and not the bylaw book he votes whatever way the wind blows, he commits to nothing. as for the trustees none of them know the rules only the ones they like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
disgusted in NB

[ashmed2befromnb]

get rid of 32

[Enough is Enough]

Whatever happened to unity in this Fire Co.? Right now we look like the laughing stock of the state? I didn't join this Fire Co. to become an officer (which I am) or a chief, I joined to help my neighbors and my community and that's why. I love what I do and it if it wasn't for this Fire Co through training I received I wouldn't have the career that I have today. So that's why I continue to take pride in the Fire Co (LIKE YOU SHOULD) and give as much as I can. I believe my members from my station can see that and that's why I am an officer not cause I made a deal or kissed someone's ass during elections because I am real.
I am speaking only for myself and not for anyone else. I am not gonna threaten people with violence and say this is where I am and meet me at the flagpole afterschool. I'm just gonna say if you have a problem with me say it to my face like a man and I would shake your hand for being honest and upfront. Lets stop this bickering and this fighting cause this is really childish and it is going to hurt our Dept. pride. Our chiefs are in office cause they won an election and that's it! a deal is a deal so let it be I don't live my life in the past I look ahead into the future. Every chief is different and every chief has their shinning points and their bad point just like myself and every officer and member of this fire company. Some people are putting so much time into this you should really sit down and read a book on training and do something positive with your time and maybe teach someone something that might save their lives one day instead of posting on this childish board, and in closing im going to just say lets stop the baby games be a man if you have a problem say it to the persons face or keep quiet and do what we all do best! fight fires, save lives and protect our families, friends and community.
&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp Sincerely, &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp Rob Cabano 2nd LT. Sta. 2 &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp

[2bulldogs2]

YEA LISTEN TO THE LEU. IT'S JUST LIKE THE STATION MEETINGS WHERE WE ALL VOTE ON SOMETHING AND THEN THE USUAL SUSPECTS BITCH AT THE BAR SAYING I DONT LIKE THIS AND THAT. THOSE ARE THE GUYS THAT ARE TRUE. REACH DOWN BETWEEN YOUR LEGS AND FEEL YOUR BALLS IF YOU GOTEM. TRY BEING YOUR OWN MAN INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GET GUYS TOGETHER TO FOLLLOW YOU. IF YOU DONT LIKE THE WAY THE CAPT IS RUNNING THE SHOW YOU SHOULDNT HAVE VOTED FOR HIM AND IF YOU DIDNT VOTE FOR HIM GO TO WYANDANCH FIRE CO.

[fff41214]

I think this is pathetic. A bunch of grown men bitching about eachother. The same people who bitch are the same ones who do sh*t for the station. So what you make the truck more than some, there is more to being a member than slamming down a few beers at the fire house or making every truck. Being a memeber is about commradery, trust, and loyalty. None of which a majority of this station has. Everyone talks about eachother and a theres some who think they are better than everyone esle, some who wont evern say hello to other fellow firemen. GROWUP. Its just a little scary to think that this is how it is. What happens if we were in a fire, I dont trust that people would have eachothers backs. Everyone is out for themselves, trying to be a hero. Lets try being brothers, famliy, and real firemen. This isnt highschool, its a life threatening job we do for FREE. We should all be here for the same reason, like the leu said, we are here to fight fires and to save the lives of our community, family and friends. So lets all start by cutting the sh*t and acting like eachothers friends.

[1134]

NB Chiefs are the best ever in a long time...Good Job Boys........Everybody should stop beating eachother up on here...Work Together As One....

[1075]

I hope things get better. It used to be alot of fun to be in the dept. Now it is getting to the point that we don't like each other anymore..
I am going to try to make things better not worse. The elections are over and done with and it is time to move on..
How about we all make a deal no more Bull$$$T...Work with what we have and lets get back on the right track..

I miss having fun and I miss us all being friends!!!!!!!!

[Rodney King]

why can't we all just get along................

[121334]

You all need to grow up. We are not in kindergarten anymore. Some of these guys have been involved for many many years. The elections are done and over with. When you placed your vote you put the people in the positions they are in. Deal with it now. Be a bit more educated when you vote next year. Remember who was doing the job you voted for them to do. As far as the ex chiefs go. They are done they did their share and for people to be bitter with them or angry that they are not their anymore. They had their time to shine and prove what a good chief was. Mina and Harrington were good chiefs they did their job well and gave the department a 110% of their time. And in return the firemen not just station 2 were supportive of them. And for people to start bad mouthing Harrington you need to confront him and tell him how you feel. Instead of hiding behind a screen. They ran the whole department and people respected them. When you treat people like a human and not a piece of dirt you will get something done. By writing on this board you are all a bunch of wimps. If this continues the whole department will go to crap. I am not a firemen and I certainly would not go to NB to join if I wanted to become one. How can you all go into a burning building with this attitude. I would be afraid of who was going to hit me with a burning 2 by 4. Think of what was written and try to be civilized with each other. You do not have to all be best friends but you are doing this as a choice. As far as the public is concerned NBFC is one Department who cares how many stations they have you are all doing this volunteer work for the same purpose. Work together not against each other. I am just a person who knows quite a bit about the fire department and does not like what is going on.

[2bulldogs2]

what ever happend to the good old days where everyone called people to hang out to do something on a friday night. it seems like everyone is out for themself. just remember when it comes over as a 13-35 do you wanna be in the fire by yourself? all the bitching you did about some one might be the guy backing your ass up in that fire. so when you see a fellow member dont be rude to them act like they are one of your closest family members ... because in the real world we are family...take this into consideration and be the better guy/girl next time................

[c list]

grow some balls and say it to chief elco face.

[c list]

grow some balls and say it to chief elco face

[121334]

I think that is exactly what I said. You all have to respond to almost all of the same calls. Why would you want each other watching your backs. If you can not get along do you think the next guy is going to trust you in a fire or vice a versa. Heck no I know I wouldn't want any of you dopes watching my back in a house fire fully engulfed.

[CFD]

5-6-30 doin a great job on his second tour at the helm.

[NOT A SPONGEBOB FAN]

UNLESS YOU ARE A TRUCK MEMBER OR A BUDDY, OR A SHACKETTE ,SPONGEBOB IS NOT YOUR MAN



BRING BACK MILLER TIME ERA.

[cfdmember]

i guess evry one forgot about 33 i wish i could bang his wife

[dpfd]

my department is lacking leadership big time i only wish i was in north babylon

[EBFD SUCKS]

Hey East Brentwood has a great loser for a chief no High School diploma, can't hold a job and best yet in 15 years has never seen the inside of a fire Bldg.

[Get a life]

I think you got wrong who the dick was? It perhaps the dick is you? Obviously you really arent aware of the progress EBFD has made since Tate has been Chief! Or the comromarity that is present in the fire house! What does Tates past or personal life have to do with his ability to be a chief...and a great chief at that? The morale is higher in that department than in many others...and they stick together. They have a great group of guys that ride for that department. I think most departments seem to be in some sort of shambles at the current moment...so take a look at EBFD cause they wouldnt be on here bashing eachother or their officers. They truely have brotherhood!

[EBFD SUCKS]

That is the funniest thing I have heard in a while. Let me catch my breath. Well lets talk progress now, Oh where to begin how bout we just thank god ebfd is surrounded by capable Dept's so when they do get a fire they can mutual aid in a dept to put out the fire. Nothing like standing there at the door and giving your line over to the neighboring truck co. oh THATS RICH!!!
Open your eyes and realize that camaraderie never can replace the fact that the dept is one of the most under trained and inexperienced one in the state except for maybe one member none of them have ever put out a fire, with yellow-back Reilly leading the way!!

[EBFD SUCKS]

Oh and the reason their officers wont be on here bashing each othere is cause there is a new one evry other week, who could keep up..........

[Get a life]

The reason EBFD calls in another truck company is because they dont have one. any intelligent individual in the town of islip would know that. seems you really dont know you stuff. they are well trained and put good stops to fire.
worry about your own department, especailly if you are in the mood to bash another.

[EBFD SUCKS]

Well if they are such a good dept it would go to say they don't know @#%$. Engine co without a truck doesn't work well. Any idiot out of probie school can tell you hose line placement goes hand and hand with coordinated ventilation so what is the point of no truck?? Just shut em down and get it over with.

[In the System]

If you think its better anywhere else, and you dont like it where you are, then dont let the door hit you where the good Lord split you....GO! With an attitude like that, you are no help. If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem!

[dpfd]

we all say that we are one but we are not the chiefs can't make a decision to save thier lives let alone ours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have an idea lets pay north babylon to handle our calls and get thier chiefs to run our department not the has beens we have for commish or the wanna bees we have driving the cars
signed dissapointed in deer park!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Another problem]

Another problem I have heard with EBFD is the constant 24's in and out of their district. They have been one of the highest in the county for a long time. So before everyone worries about the fires they never get start worring about getting out on your calls.

[ANTI SPONGEBOB]

UNLESS THE SPONGEBOB IS YOUR BUDDY,OR A TRUCKIE, YOU ARE GIVEN THE RUN AROUND

[OutsideLookingIn]

This ASSWIP-E thinks his dept. is the best, well maybe he might just have that last brain F*CKING CELL to share with all uf us his knowledge. HUH? How about that..! Hidding behind your gear that probably has not seen any fire since it was made in china.

[OutsideLookingIn]

WHY DON'T YOU, THA KNOW SO MUCH, GO TO EBFD AND SHOW THEM HOW THINGS GET DONE..! INSTEAD OF JUST TALKING ALL THAT BULL$$$T. YOU SOUND LIKE A "TIMMY" - "WHERE'S MY BRAIN, MOMMY"

[OUTOSIDE LOOKING IN]

You probably don't know what mutual aid is. Its ok, not you fault, you're just the PLACENTA, & not the actual baby. You're such a true, untreatable, unequal, unrealistic "BICHO & MAMAO", & I'm out of this motherf*cking topic. PEACE TO ALL THE MAMAOS BASHING EACH OTHERS.....

[are you kidding]

What the hell are you talking about....Put down the crack pipe and talk like a normal human being. When was the last time EBFD saw an actual fire, and better yet an actual one they put out by themselves. The chief there is the one who should take his gear out and dust it off gimmie a break already, just rename it EBFD Ambulance district get rid of the FD they dont need it and their chief is a Blowjob!

[toocuteemt]

MBFD chief's are some of the best out there.!!!!!!!!!!!

[OKAY]

Both "Outside looking In" and "Are You Kidding" what the heck are both of you saying. First lets start with the spelling........I had to get a translator for both of you. And then the topic. You know to get your point across whether good or bad, try using the english language and less cursing. I wonder have any of you been a chief.......and not an assistant "the top chief" probaly not , usually those with big mouths and small word have no clue. My hat goes off to all those chiefs who have or at least tried to make a difference. T@te, you are a good man charlie brown.....from my heart.

[bigbuff]

Iam very supprised to hear so much bad about North Babylon . I thought all the problems were with West Babylon Chiefs.

[EBFD MEMBER]

I don't understand all this nasty talk about the chiefs. These are people who have spent a lot of time away from their private lives to do this job. If it's an ego trip or for the good of the community, it really doesn't matter because it gets done. Instead of griping on this line about who you hate, why don't you talk to this chief privately one on one, if you feel standing up at a meeting would get you singled out.

I am a member, a proud member of the EAST BRENTWOOD FIRE DEPARTMENT. To all you nay sayers, we have areally tight department with all our members. The CHIEF and his OFFICERS are the reason for this and what you say about us means NOTHING! You other departments should be so lucky.

EBFD MEMBER

[Outside Opinion]

I agree with you my brother..! If anyone has any complaints, don't go behind anyones back, go straight to the person, pull them aside and tell them. Be a real man, please don't behind a screen name, and bash'em online. Try that approach, it might surprise you more than you know.

[confused]

Question. If you have a patient in server respiratory difficultly and the only ALS provider is a Chief doesn't he have have a duty to act and a least to do a evaluation to the patient?

[THE DANCH]

I GUESS YOU THOUGHT NO ONE WAS HOME.BIG MISTAKE YOU DON,T JUST RIGHT OFF A HOUSE FROM THE START YOU SHOULD HAVE A HARD TIME LOOKING IN THE MIRROR.YOU WANTED TO BE 30 SO BAD YOU F###THE BEST CHIEF to get their you should do what your good at drink drink and drink some more a$$ hole:"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :"> :">

[Answer]

That chief is obligated to act. If he is ALS on a scene without ALS, and he does not evaluate the pt, then he should be reported, thats abandonment brother..... I am all for looking out for one another, and maybe bring it to his attention first, if you can? If you can't then nail him to the cross. He probably pulls the I'm a chief, I don't have to ride crap too doesn't he.
From a Medic

[homeless crack head death]

Did anyone hear that call over the SCPD frequency? That call was received by the PD dispatcher as having possible squatters inside. Central did not relay that information to 30. Whether it was not relayed to Central by PD dispatch or if the dispatcher at Central didn't relay that information is another story. That's vital information and there should be consequences for whoever didn't relay it to the chief.

[she doesnt get it]

u dont understand...... i think the implication is that there have been at least 6 WORKING FIRES not just fires in wyandanch since Jackie took the helm in the past 2 months.... in the year and a half that the great CHIEF White was in command there were less than that. Thats a 1008% (yes that one-thousand % increase) increase in 35's. Not to mention that Jackie was on the road the second the 13 was dispatched.....hmmmmm

[Jennie]

First off, if you had any sort if education you would see that the point I was making is that information like that should NEVER be lost. The dispatcher, whether it be at Central or PD, should be reprimanded for not relaying that information to the next in line. That was the first mistake with that fire. And if you want to get technical, he was on the road 26 seconds after the call was toned out.

[I KNOW JENNIE]

OIC.... 25 sec... how long does it take u to got off scene.... I mean out of bed.......

[regurgitation]

BUUURRRPP!!!

[THANKFUL]

I JUST HEARD ABOUT THIS WEBSITE.IT'S A GREAT WAY TO EXPRESS HOW YOU FEEL, WHEN SOMETIMES ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO BE TRUTHFUL WITHOUT SUFFERING THE CONSEQUECES. WHOEVER WROTE CFD 5-6-30 IS DOING A GREAT JOB SECOND TIME AROUND IS SO RIGHT!!! LEADERSHIP IS WHAT WE NEED NO MATTER WHAT COMPANY THEY COME FROM. THIS MAN PROVES TO BE FAIR WITH EVERYONE, AND THIS COMES FROM SOMEONE WHO'S NOT IN TRUCK CO.
THANKFUL

[CHIEFS IN THE ISLIP AREA]

I have to say that Brookhaven has a great bunch of chiefs also. We have proven time in and time out that we can count on each other in Brookhaven and from our surrounding towns. This site should be used for things like this. 5-6-30 is doing a great job, again. He is a fair chief and bringing the pride back to Coram. They are slowly losing that cowboy image that was placed upon them years ago when leadership wasn't as strong. Notice I did not say as good, just not as strong. I think that we in Northern Suffolk are coming together nicely EMS and Fire, especially EMS. We are covering each other very well and everyone seems to be getting out and getting along. Lets keep it up guys, we are doing awesome. Don't let the negative BS on this site drag you down, keep coming out. Be Safe and Take Care......

[Islip town]

Is the requirement for the majority of islip town FD's for the chiefs to be close to 300lbs? EBFD and BFD are probably the winners of this one then and EBFD would win for incompetence by a long shot.

[Fat]

Your right about that one but the award for incompetence is probably a tie between 30 and 31 from EBFD. The only difference is 30 does everything the BOFC tells him to do he is merely a puppet of the board there is no leadership there just a bunch of strings.

[EXCHIEFProud]

I have read alot of bashing here. I would like to know if any of the basher's have ever held office?

[brookhaven]

Lets me just say that Brentwood is the busiest FD in Suffolk and if the members voted the man 30, then he must be pretty good. Heavy or not, if he does a good job it shouldn't matter. I understand that being in shape and healthy is very important, but if the man gets the job done and the men respect him, then there is nothing you could say. There is no chief that ALL the men are going to respect and I am sure that there will be guys that don't like him, but that is always going to be. He could be the best chief in the history of chiefs and there will be someone that doesn't like him. I think that the people who say things like that have never held an officers spot and if you did, you probably weren't very good at it. You notice that you haven't seen too many Brentwood and East Brentwood guys on here bitching do you???? No, I haven't!!! If they are, point them out to me. Far as im concerned if the man knows his stuff and earns my respect, I'll follow any order he gives. So would any good fireman. Thats our job, not to bitch, TO DO!!! Be Safe out there!!!!

[Frank Rizzo]

I just read this board and have to comment in a way to the previous posts in regards to the fatal fire on Grand Blvd last month. This is not a a post to bash anyone or any dept. The Pd got the call as a 10-24 abandoned house with possible squatters within. Upon PD arrival the house was fully involved with fire blowing out the front and through the roof. The house was boarded up. Chief Miller, yes, was the first one there and was informed by PD that there was a report of a squatter in there. Let me tell you this As a vollie for 15 yrs and being there at the fire, just by looking at the house, there was no way anyone was gonna make entry and make a grab. Now everyone that likes or dislikes the new Wyandanch chief thats your business, not mine, but I just wanted to say if that same fire occurred in anyone else's district there was no way any one was gonna go in a do a search under those fire conditions.. That was a perfect example of a well involved fire and A DECK GUN UPON ARRIVAL condition... Be safe...

[SeenItALL]

PROBABLY THE BEST CHIEF IN RECENT HISTORY (LAST 20 YRS) HAS GOT TO BE RUDY S. JR FROM MASTIC FD. RECENTLY GOT OUT AFTER SERVING LIKE 5 YRS CONSECUTIVE, WHICH IS UNHEARD OF... YES HE WAS THAT GOOD. HIS MEN PUT HIM IN AGAIN AND AGAIN, AND IF HE CHOSE TO STILL BE IN OFFICE HE UNDOUBTEDLY WOULD BE IN, BY A LANDSLIDE ! WHEN HE DECIDED TO TRY SOMETHING NEW (BOARD OF commissioners) HE DEFEATED THE INCUMBENT (OF 30 YRS) BY A RIDICULOUS NUMBER OF VOTES LIKE 500 TO 100 THEREABOUTS. RUDY KNOWS HOW TO TREAT HIS MEN, AND TAKE CARE OF THEM, EVERYONE FEELS LIKE THEY ARE PART OF HIS TEAM A WINNING TEAM. HE MAKES IT FUN TO BE A PART OF A GREAT FIRE DEPT. RUDY, THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE. WHENEVER U DECIDE TO THROW YOUR HAT BACK INTO THE RACE FOR CHIEF, YOU'RE A SHOE-IN GOT MY VOTE ALL THE WAY.

[unregistered]

well i hear that most of the chief's in lindenhurst are swell-- you want to know how swell -- i hear one of them owns a bar and offered free drinks to all for their votes--- now how's that for reaching out--- well he got in as chief and is planning to re-run again -- anyone for last call?

[SMFD]

Or can anyone come for the free drinks? He could have my vote.........

[unregistered]

no you gotta give to get!!!!this is why he has such a following!!

[freedrinks4ff]

at least lindy's giving out the drinks......unlike all the chief's trucks i see parked at both the nutty irishman & coopersmiths in islip!

[FREE DRINKS]

HEY LINDY, WHEN YOU HAD THE TOURNY THERE A FEW WEEKS AGO, YOU SHOULD HAVE INTIVITED US, @#%$, HE CAN BE MY CHIEF FOR A FEW HEINNIES







2B4UI

[Proud Bulldog]

hey unregistered your free to express your opinion but please get your facts straight the Lindy Chief doesn't own the bar his son does along with two other partners so if your gonna make a comment at least make it accurate he in no way bought his second term he was approached for the good of the department

[unregistered]

so says you--- and what did you say the "facts"-case settled. so his "son' owns the bar what difference does that make he spends his time "helping" him there. did you get free drinks too? what do you get for backing this wonderful chief? there are others who are better suited for the postiion and do not take advantage of all the perks of the company!!

[village person]

Dear Proud Bulldog, do you think this chief has done good for the department? Have you looked around and seen what is going on? It seems he cannot run the dept. and council is taking over his job, if free drinks is all he can offer, than maybe he should step down and let a qualified individual take over, but i would shutter to think he would have to give up that car, infact that was one of the reasons he took a good man out, for the car, cut to the chase and get real, he is not doing the job, he is reaping the benefits, and pray not he gets in again.

[Proud Bulldog]

no I did not receive any free beverages for my support and you say there are better candidates for the position please name them I am interested in what you think

[Proud Bulldog]

yes I feel that he has done good for the department my personal feelings that all of these posts putting down the present 30 on this thread as well as the thread with our department name as it's title are being posted by friends of the man that was in line for that position and a can kind of respect that in a way. Village Person are you a member of the LFD cause if you were you would know there are more reasons then getting the car that the majority of the dept elected him and chose not to elect the other gentleman and as far as your statement about Council after years of sitting dormant they are actually finally doing their jobs the Chief is in charge of the trucks and the men and runs all alarms the Council is responsible for the administrative end of the dept. and that is in accordance with NYS law. I have learned in my over 10 years of service in the LFD that change is looked at as rock n roll was in the early fifties there are some members in the LFD that used their positions and contacts as their own personal/political game piece and now that a large group of members are stepping forward and trying to change the department for the better they are being hit with resistance. I only hope that we could all agree to disagree and get on with what we are really here to do which is protect the life and property of the residents in our district and surrounding areas, cause all this behind the back talking isn't gonna solve anything for either side

[PRTYBITCH]

NESCONSET FD AJ ANDERSON IS ONE OF THE MOST FUN AND ACTIVE CHIEFS THERE ARE HE IS THERE FOR THE MEN NOT THE POSTION

[SeenItALL]

RUDY SUNDERMAN JR FROM MASTIC # 1

[unregistered]

The chief RUNS fire council what he says goes. Is everyone afraid of him? I don't see the village benefiting from his experience as Chief. I don't see response time being improved. i do see thousand of dollars being spent to send him and others to and from work though. I also see other Chiefs have respect enough to take their own personal cars to and from work and save hard earned taxpayers money. The former Chief was a good man and he was always available to help any department who needed it. He was fair with everyone even if they were not family or friends to him. tell me if there was a call while the present chief was in garden city how long do you think it would take him to respond???? there is NO excuse to abuse the privilege of having a FD car.

[village person]

to unregistered, which former chief are you referring to in your comments to proud bulldog?

[Proud Bulldog]

The Chief does not run the Fire Council he does chair the meetings but he has no vote and by law no say in their decisions. I am not going to go go down the he said she said road with you all I will say is that yes Tubie was and IS a good man and he wasn't removed from office because he was disliked there were many elements involved. In regards to the present 30 I assure you he is abusing nothing believe me it's not costing 1000 of dollars for him to go to work that man gives so much time to this department just as Tubie had don't hold it against him he was approached by members of this department to run he did not think this up himself. If your so worried about your tax dollars ask someone why one of the village foreman drives his white unmarked SUV upstate to go hunting

[unregistered]

I din't mention any names about chief but since you did, yes Tubie was a great man, and it was terrible the lies that went on about him. Maybe the new Chief does give his time but that's where "volunteer" comes in I still think at over $2.00 a gallon(yes thousands of dollars if multiplied by miles and days of the week) all this unnecessary wasting of our money is wrong-and Garden city is quite a hike away-not to mention liability to the village in case of an accident and other factors. and thank you for pointing out about the village foreman, however this goes unnoticed because as you say it is an "unmarked" vehicle. The Mayor and the village people should be accountable to the taxpayers also.I guess just like all political issues it is soon forgotten the real reason that they are elected to office is to serve the community-and that is where corruption starts. Everyone starts out "helping" themselves to just some free gas or free supplies and it builds from there. the school districts are the same way. If the people do not stand up and be counted then the politicians and others will take full advantage of us. Enough is Enough either "volunteer" or don't but don't abuse the system! i can see if the Chief used the car for work in the immediate area-(so they are able to respond to a call if necessary) however, taking the vehicles that far out of the area is taking advantage --the vehicles were bought to serve the community not the Chief. The other Chiefs do not use the fd vehicles and I have to give them credit cause they could just as easily take advantage of that too.( and by the way they give their time too!) Sorry but that is my opinion- and it would be the same no matter what Chief is in office.

[Proud Bulldog]

Don't be sorry for your opinion your entitled to it. Even though I don't agree with what you post at least you convey your message in a mature manor I just wish that perhaps some of the people on these LFD related threads can get together one day, face to face, so that we can debate these issues and move on. As it was said by myself and other posters on the LFD thread there are so many fine people in this department it's ashame that we have to come on here to read this stuff. I'm all for a debate on issues but when the name calling starts that's when it gets out of hand we're all adults and some of the ridiculous postings are from our own brother firefighters. They call firefighters "the Bravest" but apparently some aren't brave enough to say who they are when they have something derogatory to say or trash talk.

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[Its me]

IF YOU WANT TO FIND A REAL CHIEF WHO IS TAKING THE JOB FOR GOOD REASONS. OFFER THE POSITION WITH NO DEPT VEHICLE. HAVE THE DEPT PUT A COUPLE LIGHTS ON HIS PERSONAL VEHICLE AND A RADIO THEN YOULL SEE WHO REALLY WANTS THE JOB.

[tm]

Hey it's me, is that you?

[unregistered]

I couldn't have said it any better! You are so right anyone out there up for "volunteering" just to do community service? If we didn't offer "perks" we would have very few Chiefs! Although i wouldn't expect anyone to use their own vehicles for fire department business- except of course the members who are the unselfish ones who truly dedicate their time for "free"! Once again the LFD volunteer members deserve much thanks and praise! Without them no lives would be saved or any fires extinguished. Also thanks for the village employee who happened to be passing by a fire and rushed in to save a life- where is his perks? We need more people like him. He is truly a hero.

[Ill tell you how]

I will tell you how bad chiefs get in.
It starts out with a phone call to all our inactive lifetime members that don't know what goes on, on a day to day basis, then we go to the bad nominating commitee that fix the elections. Next we get all the active members who vote for who they think will do a job well done, but are out numbered by the election rigging and the uninformed. and VOILA BAD CHIEF, just ask Medford!

Time to go paid folks, "no one likes me, that's why they wont come out"

"No one told me what to do"

Gee Chief dont you think you should have known what to do before you ran?

Dont you think that it might be a little problem when the thing first on your agenda is to get a chiefs hat?
Then have suspension letters made up?
Then take back all the members who left on VERY bad terms and all the throw backs from other departments?
Just for the next years election?

You wonder why we have bad chiefs? I hope I summed it up a little.

[The Truth]

Anyone with such nerves of steel to put up with the politics and antics at Shirley Ambulance has got to be a good Chief....

He is an excellent role model and shows us everyday what it is like to get the job done...He works right next to us...Despite what some may thinks.......HE IS NOT AN ABSENTEE CHIEF !!!! He is a chief who comes out in the middle of the night, in the middle of snow storms, and for the entire shift when we cover another district. Boy it is truly a blessing to have a chief that does not turn his pager off !!

[village person]

dear proud bulldog, in regards to your statement about why the last chief was removed, what were all the elements you are talking about? What is the real reason this was done, in my thinking it was totally wrong to do this and so many people feel the same way, there is a lot of dislike for the currrent chiefs and many problems, i don't know the answers, but if they had left things the way they were, these problems would have not existed, just think about it, what did he do the first time? and what has he done now. can you give me any good elements for what he has done?

[Proud Bulldog]

Please don't take this the wrong way but I personally don't feel that this is not the proper venue to answer your question directly, what's done is done whether the decision to remove him from office was right or wrong it's over and time to move on. I only wish that those who still feel disenchanted by what had happened realize that we the Lindenhurst Fire Department still have a job to do and an important job at that. As I have said in my past posts I've had the honor and privilege of being a member of this department for just over 10 years now and in that time, especially in my last 4 years as serving as a line officer, I have learned that some members have lost sight of the big picture. I joined the Fire Department in order to make a difference in someone else's life not my own and that I feel is the core of the problem, to rephrase a statement made by President Kennedy its not "what can the LFD do for me but what can I do for the LFD" I know that's a corny statement but I truly believe that we should all put our differences aside and strive for the common good of the department and the community we serve.

Kevin Condrick
First Lieutenant
Chemical & Salvage Co.#2
Lindenhurst Fire Department

[Ham]

Did you eat breakfast, its the most important meal of the day

[unregistered]

You are wrong that what's done is done and over-it just isn't that easy. i personally know a few members who have been wronged by the department and I am sure they don't feel that way. The department needs to rectify the wrong doings! Good people get hurt and the few I know were hurt by the incompetent decisions of the Chiefs and Fire Council.Why should they just forget it? You are 100% correct that we need to focus on making a difference in others lives not doing it to be self-serving-which is how I feel about the way the department is RUN now. i don't think it is the members that are self-serving i think it is the management. Be honest-if you were "wronged" after putting yourself on the line hundreds of times you would not feel "what's done is done"!! These people gave of their time and did it for the community AND the management gets to remove good people because they say so! Not only is the by-laws not be followed in many circumstances but certain people feel they can play GOD-You know what-what goes around comes around!!

[cichlid]

Nobody does anything without a reason, first off. There are perks to everything everyone does in their life, believe that.
Suggesting that a fire chief get lights and sirens in their own car and respond that way does not mean they would do the job better, or imply they want that position more than someone who is supplied a chiefs vehicle on taypayers dollars. Not only are these men volunteering countless hours away from their families for meetings, training, calls, etc., but they are risking their lives for people of their community. Lots of times the chiefs respond to calls with their families waiting in the car for them, more volunteer time to the community. And you have a problem with our taxdollars paying for them to drive a vehicle and supply it with gas? No one in their right mind would be able to volunteer all I mentioned above, plus pay for gas and wear and tear and repairs to their own vehicles, nor should anyone expect them to. The fact that chiefs drive their trucks to and from work, or on weekends at their leisure is a perk, yes, but you never know when you are going to get a call and have to respond, and since they are volunteering their time 24-7, it's the least the community can do in return - provide a vehicle and gas. Plus these vehicles are equipped with not only lights and sirens, but scanners, radios, etc. So now you would expect the districts to install that in a chiefs personal car as well? What about carrying equipment? Should they put the equipment in their trunk and put their baby carriage on the hood??? Think before you write........These chiefs you speak of have families, mortgages, bills....the very last thing the community should expect of them is to add more financial pressure (by that I mean vehicle expenses) for an organization they are already giving so much to.
I think the chiefs (most of the ones I know anyway) deserve more than they get, as well as the firefighters. They can never take back the quality time away from their families that they are volunteering to the community for free....remember that.

[unregistered]

First off, the actual volunteers who respond to calls are the ones who should be credited for their unselfish response. They do it without benefit of using a department vehicle and without any real "perks" they are not supplied gasoline for their personal vehicles nor does the department pay for their insurance or car repairs. The Chiefs who use the taxpayers money to profit by using a vehicle to go far distances for personal use are doing just that-"profiting" I totally agree the Chief should not be asked to use his own car for department functions or calls, however, when they take advantage of the vehicle to go hundreds of miles out of the district each week it is a different story. I feel the same about the "village officials" using taxpayers funding for their personal use. The cars which are paid for by taxpayers money should be used for "official" business only. ONCE AGAIN THE CHIEFS SHOULD USE THE DEPARTMENT VEHICLES FOR FIRE RELATED FUNCTIONS ONLY. It is absurd to think they can respond to a call in our village when they are fifty miles or more away! Not only is that unsafe for them to respond from that distance but there are other capable Chiefs that can respond to the call. But i bet if the vehicles were to be taken away there would be alot less competition for the position! It has to stop somewhere- read the papers about how the money for the school districts were used for personal vacations, buying homes, personal vehicles and so on. Why stop at the Chiefs- let's pay for all the gas and repairs and insurance for ALL the volunteers to go to and from work- I'll bet you get swamped with volunteers!

[Why not]

I really don't see any problems with the chief having the car for personal use...As an ex deputy, its a small token of appreciation for all the time and hard work the chief has to put in. Response is just a very small percentage of the time he has to put in. The calls at 3 am because a FF or FFs had a problem, the responsibility, liability he shoulders on behalf of the members actions, co. dept., board meetings...chief's council meetings and that still is only the tip of the iceberg...OSHA & NFPA rules and regs / training, yada..yada..yada....and just for all you nay sayers, I used my own personal vehicle 60-70 % of the time..(love convertibles and couldn't talk the district into getting one..lol) and unfortunately was unable to get to be Chief due to med problems....Granted, there are chiefs that may not deserve or may abuse the priviledge, but the most part, the cost of vehicle doesn't even come close to the worth of a good chiel..

[The Commish]

Nice posts lieutenant! Stay on message and don't hesitate to share the true facts surrounding the issues.

[Proud Bulldog]

Believe me I'm trying it's just very hard when your up against people strongly driven by bad information. I respect a person's opinion but when opinion is stated as fact is when the problem arises.

[GC Smoke Eater]

The Chiefs of Garden City are the absolute best on the island. They're incredibly brave and fearless in fire buildings and have the respect and admiration of the men they command. Well trained and well motivated, you can't get a better bunch of chiefs anywhere! They run a tight firehouse and tolerate no unacceptable behavior from anyone...what more could you ask?

[The Commish]

I too respect your opinion. However, you should research information before you post to determine what's fact and/or fiction! Your statements about LFD Chief are quite off base. He is not the only Chief using a vehicle for going to and from work. He does not run the Fire Council and they certainly are not doing whatever he says. The department membership CHOSE to replace a Chief with him, he did not magically re-appear! This choice was reafirmed by the membership one year later. You are obviously a member of LFD, so we need not rehash the reasons for this change. As for incompetent decisions by the Chiefs and Council, I ask you to list such decisions as evidence for your statements. The management of this department has not been more effective at any other time in the implementation of needed changes. The over-all operations have greatly improved and the department successfully upgraded to function in the 21st century! With the support of the Village Board, improvements were made in equipment purchases, protective gear, SCBA, vehicles, and facilities. Additionally, programs such as physicals, RIT, accountability, fit testing, just to name a few, were implemented to better protect the membership. These types of programs countinuiosly evolve to remain current. The "management" has also undertaken a reorginization effort to address and improve EMS protection for the community.
I will not debate the reason why people "volunteer", except to say, the mission statement of the vollie fire service has been and will always be; TO SERVE and PROTECT LIFE & PROPERTY! We should always strive to achieve this goal in the most effective, responsible, and moral manner possible. Remember, when you call for change, you must author it! The present management team has done just that!

[village person]

to the commish,first i think you are in fantasy land or on some kind of high, all of what you have said was implimented prior to the present chief in office. The first meeting when he was elected he brought up to the membership to purchase two new vans to replace the dept. owned two buses, which the membership in the fd purchased and are left outside in all kinds of weather and conditions. The democrat hopeful wined and dined the north west house boys and in turn to to get their support for his election to be mayor, but if he really did his homework with some of the members, he would know out of the whole company you are lucky if you have a couple of handfulls that are registered to vote, and the Chief's son can do no wrong, one can damage a fire house wall by putting his fist through the sheetrock, his punshipment was to fix the hole and another son vandalized a members car and got caught and his punshipment was to clean the buses for a week, and you call this good management? Were are the two new vans in the Bahamas? Are we sending the Chief's there to pick them up?

[So]

So what company in L.F.D. do you belong to? Or what company does your spouse belong to?

[Proud Bulldog]

as not to confuse anyone I put in the wrong user name in my haste the above thread is from me. Sorry for the confusion.

[The Commish]

First, let me state to you the same thing I stated to unregistered; Research your facts before you engage your mouth, (or fingers in this case). If your intent is to simply slander the Chief, his kids, and Council, then I will not validate your existence with a reply! However, if you wish to have an educated and factual discussion on the issues, then by all means bring it on!! I'll be waiting.

[Sunshine]

As a 20 yr. member of the LFD, I just do not understand why some of these posts are so hurtful. The gentleman that we speak of has dedicated countless hours as we all have done to serve our community. He has a large support base within the department and has assisted in the efforts to improve our department as noted by The Commish. As I understand it, the van purchase issue was put on hold by the fire council for further review by their truck committee. He is not abusing the chief's vehicle by taking it to work. Most chiefs during my 20 yrs. have done this with the approval of the village. When his own company was in crisis he supported the election of an ex-captain for lieutenant. Not a popular position but in his opinion necessary for the betterment of his company. When he was approached to run against a sitting chief, he was hesitant to say the least. After weighting all the facts he accepted the challenge for the betterment of the department. Not once but twice the membership spoke at the voting booth. Can't understand why some of you won't let these old wounds heal. Accept the fact that majority rules and move on. You will make yourself sick if you don't. Your hurtful posts show your pain.

[unregistered]

funny you should talk about liability in regard to the chief you say the free transportation to and from work fifty miles away is acceptable for "all he has done for the department" well what about the "liability" to the taxpayers of the huge lawsuit that can occur when the "Chief" is escorting several other people to and from work in the department's "PERSONAL TAXI" the taxpayers are funding this and it is simply not necessary for the good of the community !! no wonder he has so many friends-- I wonder can i put him and his family and friends on my income tax as dependents this year? You say you used your personal vehicle 60 or 70% of the time well great but if it was fire department business you ARE entitled to use the vehicle- but for a personal TAXI not only for himself but to pick up others to go to and from work is really pushing it! And as far as the current Chief putting in so much time for his firefighters yeah that's great for his "Special" group but that does not apply to everyone! sorry that you could not become a Chief sounds as if you would have made a good one- you sound like you are not selfish and self-serving as other may be

[The Commish]

I'm still waiting!!!

[unregistered]

First off i am not a member of the department.secondly, i cannot list my reasons for making the statement that the fire council is in competent but i do have my sources and i am not at liberty to post them on this thread at this time. i will tell you that as far as the by-laws are concerned they are in great need of reform. I have asked what Class A-B-C-D firefighter means no-one has been able to accurately explain this to me. Can you Commish? Are volunteers right being violated in your organization? Are you an equal opportunity "employer"? I understand new members get voted in by other members? How can you justify this? how do you vote on a new member when you do not know anything about him? by the name on the application? It's a popularity contest you know it as well as I do! I has nothing to do with what anyone has done for the department it has to do only if you are accepted into the "special group" The new Chief has a bad attitude ( I have witnessed this) his attitude is it's my way or the highway (but this does not apply to any of the members doing wrong in his "special group". i have researched my information -I have seen his car with several people in it going to work at the taxpayers expense- i have seen his car parked at the bar that (his son owns) and although he has a right to go to the bar i feel he has no right to park the department car there. What kind of opinion is formed seeing a Chief car at a bar- no matter how innocent it may be it simply does not belong there. As far as the management of the department, maybe you have all this gear but do you have the man power to use it? are your volunteers willing to help each other no matter who needs it or is it the same "popularity" contest I say if the community needs you - answer their call or else leave the department. Don't get your certification on the taxpayer's expense and not apply it! i have no idea what reorganization effort was taken to improve EMS I wish you would enlighten me. How about all members of all departments answer rescue calls? sounds like a good idea to me!And a way to improve response time instead of passing it on to neighboring towns!! By the way i heard of the "playful" antics and the punishment that was bestowed on the perps! I am sure they learned their lesson! LOL once again it's who you know and DADDY-- comes to the rescue! little boys playing firemen! BOYS like this give the REAL volunteers a bad name! but that's my opinion- supported by FACT

[unregistered]

is my statement about the Chief using the car for personal use and to bring several other members to and from work bad information or is it the FACTS I am not using bad information YOU ANSWER THIS OUTRIGHT--- IS THIS A FACT OR FICTION ??? i respect your opinion that YOU see nothing wrong with this- but I see a huge problem with using the vehicle as a TAXI which includes a huge liability to the village in case of a accident! Let's agree to disagree ok?

[village perseon]

to unregistered and the commish, the comments unregistered has made are all very accurate and true to the commish, it seems the deptartment is split in half, and yes there are some that are very bitter about what has happened, but if you have read the most recent threads on lfd ez-board, you will see what was done in the past has started up again and will probably happen again, by doing what they have done they opened an new can of worms, so everyone has thier own opinion, and yes you are entitled to yours.

[Proud Member]

To all the people that rant & rave about problems and post false facts. Why do you waste every one's time on this board to voice your opinion when it means nothing on here, you may as well voice it to the wall. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem! Please stop wasting every one's time.

Proud Member

[Proud Bulldog]

I do respect your opinion as well as Village Person's my problem is this website is not the place for this. You and Village Person have in your own opinion legitimate gripes now the question I pose to you both is do you want resolution or are you content at howling at the moon, cause that's all this website is. We meet as a department several times a year and monthly as companies so if you feel so strongly stand up and be heard cause that's the only way things will be resolved.

[Proud Volunteer]

My issues have been addressed on the department flaw many times, and as per usual the department will hinder progress because of 120 years of tradition.

[chichlid]

To Unregistered - Don't forget that the now chiefs were once vollies that responded to calls using their own vehicles for years and years....at least give them that credit. They worked their way up the ranks and put in their time like the firefighters you speak of...they didn't just join the dept. and run for chief to drive around in a district car. I do agree the firefighters deserve more credit than they get, but this is a volunteer organization, not a competition of who deserves more credit.
If a chief knows he will be far out of the district and not able to respond to a call, most that I know will take their personal car. As far as driving them to work.....most work somewhat around their vollie town, and from listening to the scanner all the time, I know most do respond to calls from work, and on their way to and from, so I see nothing wrong with driving a district car to work.
Also, as I said before, the chiefs have put in their time as a firefighter, LT, Captain...and so forth....and the very least the community can do as a thanks is provide a vehicle and gas for a few years without bitching about it. They should be more concerned about paid officials abusing the system...not vollies getting perks for dedicating their time to the community with a few kickbacks.

[Proud Bulldog]

I can agree with that Proud Volunteer but at least you had the gumption to stand up for your beliefs. I actually was addressing unregistered and village person with my previous statement not saying that they have no gumption but they have made some very serious statements and accusations on this thread as well as the LFD thread so my response was to them. The LFD has long been in the mindset that we haven't done it for 120 plus years why start now but you have to admit we have come along way and we're getting there. I feel the people still holding onto the past though aren't the ones that are presently in the cross-hairs on this board they're the ones doing the finger-pointing.

[Proud Volunteer]

These are also the people with the biggest mouths and do the least. Certain family clicks if you catch my drift.

[Proud Bulldog]

that the opinions of a few affect so many

[Unknown]

Hey Commish,

You are spoken like a true politician. You should run for Mayor

[The Commish]

Proud Volunteer; I could not agree with you more! This 19th century system is long over due for a complete overhaul. To the best of my knowledge, LFD is the only department using such a system. Just doesn't make any sense in this day and age!

[unregistered]

where would someone go to file an complaint with the department anyway? maybe the Mayor? he cares less about the taxpayers problems. can a taxpayer go to fire council? Are they even interested in meeting with the public? would they take the department side or be fair? you know the answer to that-there is a brotherhood in the department just as there is one in the police department- medical field -etc. no-one wants justice they don't care who they hurt as along as it isn't them. i used to be very proud of my village- now things have changed i am disappointed in the management of the village, the management of the school district, and the management of the fire department. as i have stated before my "sources" are not able to provide me with information in regard to "physicals classification" apparently these "classifications" are not available to everyone. so once again "MR COMMISH" do you care to elaborate as to what Class C and D status involve? I have gone on other posts and apparently other departments do not have a clue as to what they are either.

[Party Chief]

Are the rumors true the 1630 is running against 1631 next year?

[Who Cares]

Why are you so concerned about the classification of Class A B C & D firemen? And if you're so concerned about being right and trying to stump people you should have all the information... I bet you've never even heard of a Class B-1 fireman.

Why don't you stop bitching about the department and just let these men do their jobs...

[MYCOMMENT]

I thought thats what chiefs are suppose to do?

[new user]

in the question stated on 8/18 has anyone heard more about this issue? so will 1630 challange 1631?

[maddog]

no 1-6-30 is running for 1-6-29 and 1-6-31 is running for the door.and 1 more thing who cares

[Deep Throat]

April elections will have a challenge to the present 33! Has disappointed many! Stay tuned, looks interesting.

[MrLindenhurst]

hey losers it never fails i leave the site for a month and you are still complaining about the same bs. like i have said be for do something about it if you don't like it bring your gripes to the meeting anything but stop complaining anonymously on this stupid site its not going to get you anywhere

[sadmember]

sbvac's chief is a loser. it's sad to see the place crumble now after everything

[nice lady]

who are you referring to by sbvac's?

[Top Flight EMT]

What are yu talking about...SBVAC's cheif is a very good friend of mine and he does his job very well...YOu should take a look in the mirror and see that it is you that is the poor member..So get a clue before spewing off at the mouth

[me]

The topic is who are the good chiefs ...well

[Friend]

Isn't your current Chief in IRAQ or a the best Chief SBVAC has ever had!! OK he had to resign to go serve his country in this fight against terrorism... You people don't even have a tribute to him and ill say his name PHIL. One of my best friends in the world some brotherhood you have over there.. thats all i have to say its very sad show some love!!!! Hey new Chief you know me we have met.. Power isn't all its about your head is a Lil big show some respect and if you can a LOT of FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!

ANONYMOUS

[startwater]

the chief had to resing because he`s serving his country?? that`s sooo wrong!!

[me]

Someone BETTER make sure that that man is renominated to office when he returns and the next election is held

[sfdmember]

i cant really complain much....selden, overall has pretty good chiefs...

[MrLindenhurst]

ex 1-6-31 running against soon to be 1-6-30

[res12cue guy]

who would that be?

[Deep Throat]

X-1631 couldn't get elected dog catcher at this point!!

[FIRE BUFF]

1-9-30 did an awesome job at our fire the other night. he had a whole dept coming in all at once. good job trying to position the apparatus.

[fire 1]

Awesome!

[I was there]

I THINK ALL OF WEST BABYLONS CHIEFS DID A GREAT JOB AT THAT FIRE...AFTER ALL THEY WERE ALL 21 AT THE SAME TIME.....AND FURTHER MORE THE CHIEFS LET THE OFFUCERS DO THEIR JOBS AND EVERYTHING WENT VERY SMOOTH...GREAT JOB WAS DONE BY ALL

[who]

who?

[who]

who is 1-9-30

[firebuff]

IN CASE YOU DONT COME AROUND HE IS THE MAN YOU VOTED IN FOR THE LAST 7 YEARS. IF THERES A PROBLEM TRY TO CHANGE IT. WOULDNT HAPPEN.

[Eastender]

can some one explain to me how the chiefs, commiss., or otherwise can let three men convicted of attacking one of there own back to serve along side one another. Would you feel safe going into the smoke with someone who attacked you in public? I can't see how that decision can make anyone a good representative of the department be it a chief, commiss. or member.

[what]

figure it out yourself dippy

[what]

whos on first

[bud]

I don't know

[ProuderPD]

ha ha ha ha ha ha aha meee lucky charms

[Mikecp421]

I saw this on page 11 and thought it should be moved up to the head of the forum. No reason, just felt like it and this is number 31!!

Not being a member of any FD I am curious as to how all of these "bad chiefs" get elected? Do "bad members" vote for them?: because people think that it is a personality contest and do not look at it as who is gonna teach us the right way to do things not the dangerous way

Who are the good chiefs out there nesconsets 4431 is the best one on long island he is always there to help and teach even as a chief he still helps train his probies

4431 rocks

[The O'c]

1-20-31 is as good as it gets in EMS Turning an sinking ship away from the rocks, pumping outthe H2O and pluggin the holes she is...Thanx Boss.

[PO415]

I have been a member of 3 fire departments and since joining Nesconset, it is the closest thing to what I was always told that the brotherhood was supposed to be. 31 and the rest of the Chief's staff are good men. I have had my differences of opinion with them, like any other member might have in the normal course of doing business. But they are fair, honest and reliable. They are not afraid to take suggestions and from what I know and see, they hold themselves to the same standards that they hold the membership to. I have never seen a chief cut down a subordinate or another chief in front of anyone. There is always respect. We have our problems internally like any other organization. But it is a good place and it is fun. It is meant to be. We get out for calls and take the job seriously when we are doing it, and blow off steam when it is time to. But the Chiefs, in my opinion DO lead by example and the 4 that we have set a good one.

I have been a member of 3 fire departments and since joining Nesconset, it is the closest thing to what I was always told that the brotherhood was supposed to be. 31 and the rest of the Chief's staff are good men. I have had my differences of opinion with them, like any other member might have in the normal course of doing business. But they are fair, honest and reliable. They are not afraid to take suggestions and from what I know and see, they hold themselves to the same standards that they hold the membership to. I have never seen a chief cut down a subordinate or another chief in front of anyone. There is always respect. We have our problems internally like any other organization. But it is a good place and it is fun. It is meant to be. We get out for calls and take the job seriously when we are doing it, and blow off steam when it is time to. But the Chiefs, in my opinion DO lead by example and the 4 that we have set a good one.

HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN IN THE NFD 2 WKS BECAUSE IT ISN'T FAIR JOHN MARTINS IS ALWAYS BEING RAGED ON THERE AND NO ONE DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT YOUR 31 CHIEF HAS IT OUT FOR HIM WHY DON'T YOU TELL US WHY?????

[theclap]

Anonymous guest,

How long have you been on the planet for, two weeks? Why would you expect someone who just wrote something POSITIVE about their fire department to air out dirty laundry for your benefit.

Get a life you moron and stop making these forums a waste of everyone's time.

[DONT YOU READ]

Obviously you do not read...it said specifically that they have their problems internally...that means that it does not go on here on belong on here. Out of 100 plus honorable members that do the job, the one individual that you mentioned will be dealt with as the chiefs and officers see fit. If 31 has it in for him, or any other chief, then he would be gone. Like it was said...they hold the members to a high standard...and themselves too. I am sure like any other department, they have applications available. If you want to join and do something about it. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.

Obviously you do not read...it said specifically that they have their problems internally...that means that it does not go on here on belong on here. Out of 100 plus honorable members that do the job, the one individual that you mentioned will be dealt with as the chiefs and officers see fit. If 31 has it in for him, or any other chief, then he would be gone. Like it was said...they hold the members to a high standard...and themselves too. I am sure like any other department, they have applications available. If you want to join and do something about it. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.

you want to know why 4431 does not like john martins... but first lets say this he is not out to ruin him. 4431 does not like john because he was very mentally and physically abusive to his sister that john dated for 2 yrs.. to the point that he hit her with his truck spit in her face, and cheated on her but 4431 can split the difference between the fire house and home and does not bother with johns pettie bullshit so if anyone has a problem on why 4431 does not like john go see him your self and he will tell you so will everyone at the fire house

BUMP

[smarts]

I think Nissequogue's 4-5-31 definetly goes down as one of the best. He's educated, young, and knows what the hell he's doing. When they get an alarm which is not frequent tune into 4th division and listen to him... and NQFD members under his command!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also he dosen't take s%^t from other departments.

[smarts]

I think Nissequogue's 4-5-31 definetly goes down as one of the best. He's educated, young, and knows what the hell he's doing. When they get an alarm which is not frequent tune into 4th division and listen to him... and NQFD members under his command!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also he dosen't take s%^t from other departments.

[smarts]

I think Nissequogue's 4-5-31 definetly goes down as one of the best. He's educated, young, and knows what the hell he's doing. When they get an alarm which is not frequent tune into 4th division and listen to him... and NQFD members under his command!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also he dosen't take s%^t from other departments.

4-4-31 is the best end of story

[cartoon vavoom]

spongebob square pants, sponge bob square pants.

[M1 A1 Abrahms]

i guess we would think hes the best chief around , when he doesnt care if he shows favortism towards his own company. I mean ,truck 1 can change our dept. sop's for a 13 and bring the wrong truck to the call and nothing happens. hows that for starters. :lol: :lol: :lol:

bump

what about c.i.h.v.a's chiefs who could over look those wonderful guys

Shouldn't you be stocking a rig or something else productive Rico. After all, you are being paid.

:D BUMP :(

[guest1]

What is up with that stupid asshole chief in terryville 5A4-31!!!

What is up with that stupid asshole chief in terryville 5A4-31!!!

what makes him an asshole. He's one of the most polite people you can ever meet.. That's what his biggest problem is...

I hear a lot about 4431 what is 4430 doing?

[Vote early and often]

The up coming 1-6-30 is being run against by the ex- 1-6-31 lets give tubie some votes I dont expect him to win but at least it will open that 2 faced liberals eyes up. :shock:

4-5-31 talks the best on the radio... hey be quite can i get a word in .....cant he still talking on the radio :!:

:roll:

:?:

:roll:

4-2-0 /4-3-30 nature of the alarm and time I was taking a dump

[guest12]

I hear Holtsville has a real winner. Not only are their most active guys not showing up for alarms, They are supposedelly leaving and joining neighboring departments. (no truth, just a rumor)

420/4330 i'm establishing command ...call me stjames command 420 whats the alarm? 420/command i just farted 10-4 feel better now!

[guesto]

:lol:

[castironduck]

I know who the bad cheifs are...........ask the ones at MSFD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anony]

I know who the bad cheifs are...........ask the ones at MSFD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHO???????????
PS: It is CHIEFS.

I know who the bad cheifs are...........ask the ones at MSFD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gee I can't imagine who you are talking about...maybe FH

[biffy buffy]

THE FLASH :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[castironduck]

I just hope that MSFD is careful this year at thier 75 year celebration. Do yourselves a favor, dont drink and drive. Your celebration is almost 3 years to the day that Brad Amato died. There are some of us who think that is in extremely poor taste to not even take that into consideration. After all, it was after the Miller Place anniversary celebration that the tragedy happened. You can have fun and act responsibly too. For those of you who are parents, set an example for your kids. Keep in mind.....you never know who is watching..........at the parade, at the celebrating afterwards, you never know who will watch you and wait for you to make a mistake.

[WHAT THE F*@&]

Let's talk about bright Chiefs.

Why is it that the Miller Place Fire Department is the only Dept in their area that does not believe in advanced Life Support.

HMM.... ROCKY POINT (ALS), CORAM ( ALS), PORT JEFF (ALS), TERRYVILLE (ALS), SETAUKET (ALS)

Is it that you are so preocupied with all the fire that you see

Or is it that everyone else in America is wrong and scoop and run is still the way to go.

In a growing area like this maybe you should wake up and look around.

what is wrong with this picture
12,000 taxes no ALS, all vollies (Miller Place)
1,200 taxes 2 medics and the ducks ( NYC)

Im sure that brand new firehouse will be filled with brand new firetrucks. Maybe even another ladder truck for the dept that does not have a structure over one story.

[Salty Dog]

Why Doesn't Miller Place By an old Caddy Get some good humor uniforms and pretend its 1972

oh yeah thats what they are doing

Let's talk about bright Chiefs.

Why is it that the Miller Place Fire Department is the only Dept in their area that does not believe in advanced Life Support.

HMM.... ROCKY POINT (ALS), CORAM ( ALS), PORT JEFF (ALS), TERRYVILLE (ALS), SETAUKET (ALS)

Is it that you are so preocupied with all the fire that you see

Or is it that everyone else in America is wrong and scoop and run is still the way to go.

In a growing area like this maybe you should wake up and look around.

what is wrong with this picture
12,000 taxes no ALS, all vollies (Miller Place)
1,200 taxes 2 medics and the ducks ( NYC)

Im sure that brand new firehouse will be filled with brand new firetrucks. Maybe even another ladder truck for the dept that does not have a structure over one story.


I agree with you 200%, but don't forget about soundbeach, they are also BLS. Rumor has it SB is thinking of going ALS tho. MPFD was also offered a deal with a local dept to provide ALS for them at a fraction of the cost of going ALS and they turned it down (rumor has it that it is because it was from a VAC and not a FD). Commisioners atleast listened to the idea but the chief shot it down faster then it could be spoken. Don't forget you vollies at MPFD are also the ones that live in the district and some day you or your family may need ALS but you will have to wait for it to be 24'd in or they can just play then scoop and run game. You decide what is smart and what is not.

[Lets Go Paid]

[quote=WHAT THE F*@&]Let's talk about bright Chiefs.

Why is it that the Miller Place Fire Department is the only Dept in their area that does not believe in advanced Life Support.

HMM.... ROCKY POINT (ALS), CORAM ( ALS), PORT JEFF (ALS), TERRYVILLE (ALS), SETAUKET (ALS)

Is it that you are so preocupied with all the fire that you see

Or is it that everyone else in America is wrong and scoop and run is still the way to go.

In a growing area like this maybe you should wake up and look around.

what is wrong with this picture
12,000 taxes no ALS, all vollies (Miller Place)
1,200 taxes 2 medics and the ducks ( NYC)

Im sure that brand new firehouse will be filled with brand new firetrucks. Maybe even another ladder truck for the dept that does not have a structure over one story.


HOW ABOUT DUMPING THE SYSTEM TOTALLY--LETS GO PAID!!!1

[quote=WHAT THE F*@&]Let's talk about bright Chiefs.

Why is it that the Miller Place Fire Department is the only Dept in their area that does not believe in advanced Life Support.

HMM.... ROCKY POINT (ALS), CORAM ( ALS), PORT JEFF (ALS), TERRYVILLE (ALS), SETAUKET (ALS)

Is it that you are so preocupied with all the fire that you see

Or is it that everyone else in America is wrong and scoop and run is still the way to go.

In a growing area like this maybe you should wake up and look around.

what is wrong with this picture
12,000 taxes no ALS, all vollies (Miller Place)
1,200 taxes 2 medics and the ducks ( NYC)

Im sure that brand new firehouse will be filled with brand new firetrucks. Maybe even another ladder truck for the dept that does not have a structure over one story.


HOW ABOUT DUMPING THE SYSTEM TOTALLY--LETS GO PAID!!!1

Letsgopaid, i have an idea how bout shut the f*$& up and NO!!!!

[vollie.]

It would be nice if miller place and sound beach shared als..That way they could serve their communities without exhausting rocky point whose taxpayers subsidize them now by paying for the als that gets 24'd every day. But what's the incentive, other districts are covering them for free now?

[WHAT THE F*&@]

YOU VOLLIES ARE A JOKE.

YOU ARE JUST WHAT THE PUBLIC THINKS YOU ARE A BUNCH OF UNEDUCATED SELFISH DRUNKS WHO BY NEPATISIM AND SHEER LACK OF UNDERSTANDING ARE ALLOWED TO WASTE MILLIONS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS FOR YOUR OWN BENIFIT.

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO REALIZE THAT THE FIRE AND EMS SERVICE IS NOT ABOUT YOU ITS ABOUT THE PUBLIC.

NEVER YOU WILL NEVER LEARN BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN BREAD INTO YOU TO BELIEVE THAT ITS ALL ABOUT YOU AND THAT IS SAD.

IT STARTS AT THE TOP WHY DOES YOUR CHIEF HAVE TO DRIVE AROUND IN A 50 THOUSAND DOLLAR TRUCK
ANSWER
BECAUSE HE THINKS IT IS OWED TO HIM. A STATE BID EXPLORER WOULD DO JUST FINE. BUT NOOOOO! I NEED A FUCKING EXCURSION WITH LEATHER INTERIOR AND EVERY OPTION FORD OFFERS.
THE TRUCKS ARE NOT A PERK OF THE JOB OR AT LEAST THEY SHOULDNT BE.
YOU WILL SEE YOU MUTHERFUCKERS IN MILLER PLACE I HAVE HAD IT WITH YOUR SHIT . HOPE YOU ENJOY SCRUTINY BECAUSE IT HAS ONLY JUST BEGUN. HOPEFULLY IT WILL END WITH HEVESI AND SPITZER SMILING AND SHAKING HANDS WHILE THEY MARCH ALL YOU CROOKED SON OF A BITCHES OFF.



:twisted: :twisted: