Hicksville FD

[A brother in need]

I've noticed alot of bashing of the vollies in general in this forum. It seems to be either disgruntled ex vollies or just uniformed people. Recently the forum entitle Hicksville was pulled off the website for an "unknown" reason. To anyone who was not following this, there is an enourmous contraversy that surrounded to past commisioner election and the proposed remodeling of station 2. The election campaign that put commissioner Hearon into office was spewed with lies and deciet which managed somehow to get enough votes to get this poor exuse for a candidate into office. This however is in the past and must be dealt with for the next six years. The current dilema involves the neighbors of station 2. The have been spreading bogus reports that we are looking to condemn her house and build over it when in reality she just wants HFD away from her front door which was a goal of hers well before even the thought of a remodeling. She has never been in favor of the firehouse were it is and wants it moved across town. Next time look out the front door before buying you house, were here to stay!!!

[Hix Resident]

I too was very surprised to see the Hicksville site removed from the mesaage board. I think there is quite a turn in the tide. In my personal opinion many of the residents around Briggs street are becoming very aware and are not opposed to the renovations at the firehouse. I also noticed that a few of the pro firehouse/firefighter messages were deleted from this site BEFORE the WHOLE section disappeared..The people who did this must have some strong pull. Not surprising because they are probably the same group who got Mr. Hearon elected..Mr. Hearon is beholding to alot of people now, unfortunately they're not the firefighters.

[friend of the FD]

Its nice to see a forum that isn't just bashing the wonderful things that the volunteers firefighters do for this county. I have absoluty no problem contributing to the annual fundraiser regardless of how it is spent. These men and women deserve te world for what they do for our community and I for oe would like this opurtunity to applaude the work that is done.

[Biased]

thanks friend.
would be nice if there were more people like you to speak out.
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[fohfd]

did anyone make the meeting on the firehouse.i would like to know if they are going to build it were it is or are they moving it for the briggs st committee.

[Mr Wolfinstein]

I recently attended the meeting about the fire house. The Hicksville Fire district was looking into one possible location to move the fire house. The location for the new house would be located down the road in the sump. The District was looking into if it was possible to obtain and build on the property. The district would look into this matter and get back to the residents. It looks like the district is going to renovate the existing house. Sump doesn't look good....

[Taxpayer]

I'm a resident of Hicksville and sadly uninformed about local issues.
Is the firehouse in need of renovation the one on West John Street next to the mall? I live very close to it.
If you guys need renovations I'll support it. I've got some neighbors who are Hicksville FD and they ran right over when my wife called about a possible gas leak.
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[fffohfd]

Dear taxpayer thanks again for your very dear sincere comment.And yes we do need your help because the average home owner does not understand that if they are forced to move the firehouse this will im pack their responses.And it will impact all of Hicksville.I hope you will send more positive notes.

[hff]

No, it is not station three on west john street. But while you mention that house. We hear how commissioner Dwyer is so connected with politics, what about water commissioner and ex chief HA HA Karl S. who used the briggs committee, northwest civic and the democrates to get elected. Seems like he's alot more involed in politics that he makes you think. Keep in mind HICKSVILLE FIREFIGHTERS he is working against the station 2 renovation. Remeber when station three was being built, he wanted all of the say. Two companies in the house with the worst response in the department. Don't forget to stop by their 6 to whatever club on fridays for a few drinks.

[concerned]

STOP THE BULL**** You have statements stand up MONDAY NIGHT and air your opinions we are killing ourselves over this crap. Every accomadation to the members are a uphill battle and we have to stop fighting among the members.
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[Calmdown]

Well put Concerned.

[Luv Hicks]

Which house is it???

[Hix Resident]

Its Station 2 The one on Woodbury Rd. and Briggs St

[ffhfd]

Just look for Charlie Hearon, Karl Scweitzer and Mike Krummeackers car parked oin the area.

[Luv Hicks]

How old is that building??

[truthful]

The original building was built 1956. The district has done two renovations. The last was done 1991 at a cost of $800,000.00. That was to allow the new pumper to fit. The pumper is a 1993 I believe.

[cichlid]

How about some renovations to HFD Station 4 since the building is sinking into the ground? What exactly constitutes a firehouse needing some renovations?
I am not opposed to renovating station 2, but they still would have very limited parking available if it was renovated in the same place, and I though parking was a problem over there??
......Just wondering......

[truthful]

Some say it is sinking,but I don't know for sure. The companies there should send complaints through your monthly house reports and make the commissioners act on it.
You say, "you are not opposed to renovating station 2, but they still would have very limited parking available if it was renovated in the same place, and I though parking was a problem over there"
, well you are right. Parking is a problem at times. Mostly drills, meetings, stand-bys, and some social gatherings. Most of the times there are 4-5 men to the average fire call. That is why, if the board could find a closer location it would be better for all. I think if the board could find a location a little South where they could build something and it would house the new weapons of mass destruction trailer and the bus it would be 5 million dollars well spent. The residents really should be calling the district or writing them. Five million dollars is alot of money. My question is why the rush! Our taxes will be raised again. Their budget is around $4,400,00.00. budget

[9322]

Can any one tell me what a 64 is or why a chief with no medical training has to be first on scene so bad that he drives up the ass of our ambulance trying to push us out of the way. I guess that's why he causes so many accidents. Go stuff it chief, there is no need

[Bob]

Response to the question of station four sinking. Yes the building is sinking into the ground, but is it a major problem. No, the building is experiencing some unexpected ground movement. Structurally the building is safe and some minor work down the road can fix it. The parking at station two can be a problem at times, but that is the best location for the house. In theory, moving the house to a better location is a great idea. When calculating all the information, it doesn't pan out. If you have comments, please get your information correct.
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[stopthenonsense]

Anyone who wants to face reality can do so by acknowledging that Briggs and Strong Street were built to facilitate circumstances and an era that no longer exists, namely grade level LIRR tracks, whose time has long passed. Similarly effective fire protection would be maintained had the district used some forward thinking years ago. Now you have Millions upon Millions of dollars of equipment all within a 1 mile or less radius, that either should have been consolidated or more efficiently relocated long ago. This doesnt mean that Briggs NEEDS to remain there. God forbid it moves, and guys who bought or rent next door to their clubhouse (er, I mean Firehouse) will have to drive a bit. Believe it, most will go wherever the free food, plasma TV, and social gatherings are.
Now, you've got factions who spin tall tales and will have you believe that A) Hicksville will be unprotected if this project fails to happen (remember when 936 was being replaced?), B) There are no alternatives C) Taxes, what taxes? D)The board is the most trustworthy group to decide.
The tax paying public need only look to recent events in Centerport and realize that the cash cows of the 20th and 21 Century on LI (the Volunteer Fire Service), HAVE TO END THIS FISCAL MADNESS SOMETIME, as our North shore Brethren have realized. Doesn't anyone see that no matter what happens to the economy, no matter the tax bills, these boards keep asking for and getting Millions and Millions of Dollars every year that they spend with reckless abandon. Whether its the real Cherrywood paneling in the Hix Boardroom and the $1000 highback chairs, or the less than 10 year old truck being replaced by another million dollar bumper to bumper custom spec'd truck (rather than the 250K "Line" truck (which is good enough for the largest FD's in the US), or a 5 bay 2 story huge maintenance facility (larger than most departments houses, including most of Hicksville's).
The board and the unwitting rank and file (who, on any other day have only contempt for the board) are not the guys you want asking for it. Let the public decide. The departments honesty and integrity is compromised every time the Department on ANY level uses the threat of reduced safety to the public. The chiefs didn't tolerate it from the members, and the public shouldn't either.
P.S. The district can stick it's meetings. ("If ya got something to say, BLAH BLAH BLAH") They are a shouting match tough guy show for intimidation only. You want to show facts, and expect support, take the public you claim to want to help and show them the stuff that their taxes REALLY pay for (above and behind the apparatus room floor).
If the media decides to pursue this, watch all of the tough guys fade away.
Let the flaming begin.

[recruitment]

In response to the comment about free food, plasma tv's, and social gatherings. I dedicate hundreds and hundreds of hours of my free time to the Fire Department. If you think I come for this stuff you must be crazy. I do it because I love doing it. You people always show what the tax payers are paying for, but you never see what the firemen inquire. Like the money spent on gas responding to alarms, the money that could be earned working OT, or the money spent on items used for the fire service. You also talked about the members that live or rent next to the "clubhouse". Lets get things straight, having firemen and medical personel sitting around watching tv waiting for alarms isn't a bad thing. As a tax payer, I feel safe knowing that a crew is waiting around to risk their lives to save one of my loved ones. I take it as a slap in the face that people like you complain about this sh@t. If you really want to destroy the imagine that so many members have worked hard to achieve, then atleast post your name so I have someone to blame.

[stopthenonsense]

Take it easy fella. Why do I have to post my name? What is it, 3:00 at the flagpole? And what is this "You people" crap? "You People" pay the bills for all of this stuff. "You people" are never made fully aware of how a Department or District is funded. "You people" are expected to vote for these Boards and sometimes for funds that can effect their lives. "You people" donate monies to the DEPARTMENT for it's "use". If you live in the District, then you are "You People" too. It's just that some of "us people" want some accountability from our government. Welcome to the world of being a Public Municipality. Imagine if this was paid service, and then you would hear quadruple the criticism. Listen, I spent most of my young adult life in the fire service. I know that there are many hard working men and women throughout LI that devote many hours to their Departments at great personal and professional expense. I know because I've done it myself for many years. I also know that a lot of stuff goes on in these buildings that the public, given other options, might not always approve of. How many of these "hard working" individuals make their percentage via the racing team, softball, training and meetings? How many of these "dedicated professionals" show up and sign in after a signal 12 EVERY TIME. The reality is that while you obviously feel a high level of dedication about the fire service, (I assume you are in one) see the members response if you tried to dissolve the Racing Team. Watch how the Officers treat you like crap because you have no time for the meetings, parades, or picnics because you have to work 400 hours of OT a year to afford the house and the taxes here. Pay close attention to the same 10 people at EVERY alarm (let's not even get into EMS), and then you tell me who's not in this for the stuff unrelated to Emergency Services. As far as having guys sitting around watching TV waiting to go on alarms, where I was, that just wasn't the case. Most folks these days don't have that kind of free time. Lastly, if you really believe that all of that stuff behind, above or below the apparatus room floor is not or has not been excessive, then you are kidding yourself. There's nothing wrong with a TV and a modest lounge. I don't begrudge the rank and file some entertainment or comfort, but come on now. You gotta see some of these places.
When it's all said and done, in the end, we must remember, this is not the members, officers or even the Chief's fault. They don't control the cash. But rest assured when something negative happens, it will be the rank and file that will catch the flak. The time has to come to make these Boards more accountable to the taxpayer. If all of this is a "slap in the face", then I'm sorry you feel that way, but I resent the fact that a Fire District doesn't feel it owes any explanations on any subject to the public, as if to suggest we are all too ignorant to comprehend it all.
In Centerport, the members put signs with expletives and veiled threats on their cars and District property, and implied they were going to ignore alarms to show their displeasure because the locals voted down the District's funding. Is that what we have come to?
Real professionals don't care about plasmas, parades or lounges. They go to alarms. They leave after a 13/7. They would answer the radio regardless of the building that holds the gear. Years ago, (I assume it hasn't changed) Westbury Station 2 was a closed house. It only opened for alarms. For the professionals, that was fine. It was just a place to keep the gear dry. All of this other stuff is the rank and file being played by the Boards.
Be safe.

[NCFF]

Hmmmm no quotas? Don't we have enough mooches in the service? Have to have rules. Without them those that want to work will get it stuck to them even more by those that don't. You'll always have those that push the "quota" line and do the bare minimum. It's unfortunate for those who actually do have a tough time making it.

[NCFF]

I'm glad to see someone mention LOSAP . This has to be the biggest jerk job for the tax payers when it was passed. It has done nothing for the fire service except cause problems and raise district budgets. I did not join to get paid, the perks that everone is talking about(BIG TV, LOUNGE, ETC.) should be good enough. Put an end to LOSAP, lower budgets(I'm sure most are $300.000 plus per year) and enjoy what you have.

[LOSAP]

typo---- should be worth

[suffolkFF]

In 2037 $260.00 would be worth $260.00 more than I would have at that time.

[2037]

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anything but black socks and sandals!!!

[JJD]

At least we know he's genuine. Only one of us would wear them together.
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[Hungryman]

:"> What is wrong with black socks? They go well with my FREE belt buckel (err, I mean - Jackets).

[outoftown]

Engine 932 first due to another working fire. Seems like this company gets the job done once again. Not just chilling in the "clubhouse" like once critic comments on.

[truthful]

Nice job! And I do thank you. What was the location of the call. What was the times of the 2nd and 3th trucks 22?
Was there anything at your firehouse that delayed your response time? What could have improved your time? Please put it in writing and send it to your chief and post it too.

[Phil]

Let's get things straight. First, the kitchens are required to be a certain size and have certain amenities. Second, the dual bars doesn't exist. Last time I check I only saw a single bar. These bars, more like tables are used for eating, paper work, and other things that people use tables for. Just because it looks like a bar, doesn't mean it's used for drinking. Last time I checked there where not kitchen tables or work tables. You have this big ha@d on for the Commisionors. Who cares, the job gets done.

[100ayeardonator]

Quote:Whether its the real Cherrywood paneling in the Hix Boardroom and the $1000 highback chairs,

If this is true, and I believe it is, I've just decided to reduced my yearly donation to $20.00. I'm not working 55 hours a week to watch my money being pissed away.

Thanks for the heads up.

[stopthenonsense]

I suggest you respectfully get your head out of the sand and check to see how many bars are in Station 1 or Station 4. "Getting the job done" has very little to do with some of these palaces that have been created over the years (some very recently). Show me the laws about the 100K kitchen that gets used 2-3X a month, and YOU then EXPLAIN to the taxpayer that this or any one of the issues I have previously mentioned can't be done smarter and cheaper. I'll gladly donate to the department for the members benefit, cause I know that where it goes. The district on the other hand seems to be a never ending pit of cash to spend on basically any thing they can claim as needed, whether fire related or not. With NO oversight. I have a "h@rd on" for these boards, because they have for years confused silence for ignorance. Like it or not, times are changing, and if people are being driven off of LI beacuse they cannot afford to live here, they have to take the Politicians to task beacuse of it. Well, Commissioners are politicians. They raise, and spend our tax dollars, and share in the accountability.
And "truthful", the woodwork I spoke of exists on the walls in the form of real paneling, and solid doors, and is certainly not readily availiable in home depot. I hope that was sarcasm I sensed about the trucks, although I wish you luck in finding one of these 100% custom vehicles for 450K. I believe a truck off the line is about 250-300K.
While not holding the rank and file responsible, as they do a difficult job with little compensation, the current system, the one WE really pay for with tax dollars is shot. The answer lies in eliminating this system and consolidating, in some form, as was discussed in this thread:
p070.ezboard.com/flipolit...D=36.topic

[Jon]

I think that you have raised some good points about the spending of tax payer money. As far as Hicksville taxes, there hasn't been an increase since 1991. You also talked about the new trucks costing 450,000. That is incorrect also. Many of the old trucks that are going to be resold for $150,000+. Most of the trucks only cost the department $250,000 ten years ago. These trucks hold value and give the fire service breaking technology in order to provide excellent protection to the community. Given this data, in ten years the new trucks can be resold for around 300 thousand dollars. Thus, costing the tax payers around 150 thousand dollars (per truck) for the ten years of service. When calculating all this data, the new trucks are worth the investment.

[I Know]

There has been much said about the passing of the Labor Day Parade & Drill, around the firehouse, but not to the public. All the problems come from the Brd. of Fire Commissioners. They just did not want it!!! The GRANDSTANDS was just an excuse. They contacted the NYS Building Codes Dept, who oversees, and there is nothing wrong (look it up). They guy that got hurt last year was a member who fell while they werew taking down the grandstands. HE WAS NOT DRINKING!!! They owe the public, other fire depts who gave them support over the years a better explaination. This has been in Hicksville for over 75 years. Big problems with big heads who have no interest any more. They are AW,RD, JG & WM. Where is the Chief on this one????? But get the facts!!!
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[nassaufire]

The First Battalion held the Labor Day Parade this year

[Hicksville on Fire]

Do you know that the cost for the renovation of the firehouse is now up to 5.5 Million Dollars. Yes thats right FIVE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS. Are these Commissioners taking us for a ride on the fire truck???? The time is now and change must come. With the cost of everything else 5.5 million ???? This is on top of the 6 million dollar budget now!!! Wake up Hicksville...maybe the firehouse is not in your backyard, but...5.5 million is in your wallet!!!!

[Mikecp421]

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[guest5]

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[guestr]

:lol:

hello

Why would you say that ?

[bob34ll5]

How are we going to deal with the scumbag Chiefs and Board members of Hicksville Fire Department. The neighbors are picking them off one by one. The first scumbag chief is done. It's only getting better. Thank God

[kris66666]

that is harsh, but it might be true.

[Hearon In]

Is HEaron up this yr?

How are we going to deal with the scumbag Chiefs and Board members of Hicksville Fire Department. The neighbors are picking them off one by one. The first scumbag chief is done. It's only getting better. Thank God

What chief are you getting at...? There gonna look good with the blue bottles.

[1234 you suck.]

Chief Douchette?

[henby1207]

Do you really need me to say his name. It's been posted many times. He was a loser in High school and will always be a loser. It's all about doing the right thing. He's a scumbag loser that kinda got a real job. Weighing trash is over loser. I want to be a Chief when I get older. How far did that get you. LOSER = HIM

some serious hate is going on here. :D Wish i could see him to flipp him off.

[1234 ya suck]

NO BEER IN THE FIREHOUSES. plain and simple.
See who walks, the moochers, and the drunks.
Who depts don't need.

Oh and no more drill team.. im gonna cry.

Get there mooching a sses out.

REVOLUTION

And now dreager packs.. oh lord i feel bad for them.. Good call commishes, good call.

[joejoe434444]

wow

NO BEER IN THE FIREHOUSES. plain and simple.
See who walks, the moochers, and the drunks.
Who depts don't need.

Oh and no more drill team.. im gonna cry.

Get there mooching a sses out.

REVOLUTION

And now dreager packs.. oh lord i feel bad for them.. Good call commishes, good call.

That wasnt strait for hicksville, i meant it for all FIRE DEPTs, COMPANIES and ORGANIZATIONS.

[Hearon Hearon]

HEaron Hearon!

[how many commissioners]

have wives on govt payrolls in Hixsville? I can count two!~ 8)